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This was fucking god awful

>> No.8945254

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>> No.8945329

>>8944887
You must be 18 to post

>> No.8945337 [DELETED] 

>>8945254
>>8945329
Not OP but it really is uninspired prototypical reddit garbage compared to System Shock 1.

>> No.8945350

>>8945337

Are you even capable of creating your own opinion without using buzzwords?

>> No.8945401
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8945401

I always loved how environment looked like in this game. Amazing clean graphics and lighting for its time. Unfortunately the character models and special effects weren't nearly as good and overall the engine lacked compared to e.g. Unreal (which Deus Ex was built on).

>> No.8945461

>>8945350
Well, buzzwords aside, he's right about SS1 being the superior title. And not by a small amount.

SS2 is still a good game, but imo SS1 > Prey >>> SS2 >>>>/>>>>> anything like Bioshock (ewwww).

>> No.8945496

>>8944887
>>>/v/

>> No.8945980

>>8945401
My dream game would be Deus Ex with System Shock 2 graphics.

>> No.8946497 [DELETED] 

bump

>> No.8946595

Post your starting build

>> No.8947187 [DELETED] 

>>8946595
PSI, Repair, Maintenance, Exotic Weapons. I only picked the cool skills

>> No.8947328

>>8944887
Only the last ~2 hours of the game. Up until The Body of The Many, System Shock 2 is phenomenal.
>>8947187
Nice try, kiddo. The Exotic category doesn't show up until at least Deck 4.

>> No.8947475

>>8947187
Lol this larping ass faggot

>> No.8947487

uh oh poo poo

>> No.8947563

>>8947187
Standard Weapons, Maintenance, Hacking, etc etc

I only used the pistol because it bothered me that I couldnt see my arms with two-handed weapons. What the fuck is this, Goldeneye all over again? It's 1999 for fuck sake.

>> No.8947606

>>8945254
/thread

>> No.8947646

>>8947328
I liked Body Of the Many and the stupid ending.

>> No.8947662

>>8944887
I couldn't get into it the first time I played but on my second I saw the light.

It's ludokino.

>> No.8948343

>>8944887
very atmospheric when playing solo. fucking hilarious when playing with friends.

10/10 would submit to SHODAN

>> No.8949325

>>8944887
>tfw my pathetic creature of meat and bones will never pant and sweat through her corridors

>> No.8949673

>>8945401
System Shock 2 had wayyyy better sound design than Deus Ex, played them back to back and Deus Ex sounded super cheap by comparison.

>> No.8951229

>>8949673
agree anon

>> No.8951323

>>8949673
That's because Looking Glass had top tier sound design, also Looking Glass > Ion Games

>> No.8952289

bump

>> No.8952568

>>8944887
nah

>> No.8952816 [SPOILER] 
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8952816

>>8951323
The game was made by Irrational. Looking Glass was credited because they created the Dark Engine (Thief 1 & 2), which System Shock 2 was built on.

>> No.8952817

>>8952816
irrational was 2 people in a corner of lgs at the time

>> No.8952841

>>8952816
The body of the man is an LGS employee's colonoscopy.

>> No.8952908

>>8949673
LGS was ahead of everyone in sound design. It's better than most games that come out now.

>> No.8952993

>>8952908
Sound cards were really big at the time so I think they wanted to capitalize on it like they were with everything else. Then when Creative killed soundcards it died. Sound propagation is starting to make a comeback in the indie space though.

>> No.8953245

>>8952993
You can also thank Microsoft for effectively killing EAX.

>> No.8953248

>>8945461
lol

>> No.8954147

>>8953245
That was in response to something Creative did. I forget what exactly but Creative was causing issues for users and Microsoft did the easiest fix by not allowing anyone to do what Creative was doing.

>> No.8954307

>>8945980
My dream game would be Deus Ex with System Shock 2's gunplay.

>> No.8954472

>>8954307
>My dream game
>with system Shock 2's gunplay
You should really try a proper FPS one of these days.

>> No.8955374

>>8954472
I want that shit make it happen.

>> No.8955997

>>8952841
>It's real
Holy fuck, I thought you were kidding.

>> No.8956018

>>8955997
I thought everyone knew this.

>> No.8956774

>>8954307
What gunplay? "Beat everything to death with a wrench until you find a (bugged) pistol that isn't made of shit" gunplay?
SS2's gunplay is the counterpart of JRPGs "because fuck you that's why" gameplay. I don't disagree with the idea of having to do the maintenance in a survival-istic game in principle, but SS2 overdid it.

>> No.8956934

>>8956774
>What gunplay? "Beat everything to death with a wrench until you find a (bugged) pistol that isn't made of shit" gunplay?
That's not what gunplay is. Shut the fuck up and keep your outbursts to yourself.

>> No.8956939

>>8945461
They hated him because he spoke the truth.

>> No.8956952

>>8956934
>That's not what gunplay is.
That's what SS2 "gunplay" boils down to. Shoot the bosses and the suicide bombers, whack everything else. Fuck that noise.

>> No.8957014

>>8956952
>That's what SS2 "gunplay" boils down to.
No, the definition doesn't change based on title. The fact that you honestly believe the way you played the game is the only possible way is a testament to the emergent nature of it.
But for the record, even in its primitive, ugly state, SS2 has much better feeling and sounding guns than Deus Ex.

>> No.8957791

>>8944887
is it ok to play this without playing the original? I tried the original a few times but the controls are too archaic for me

>> No.8957959

>>8957791
>is it ok to play this without playing the original?
Same boat as you. Never cared for the first one. Plus, there's an entire monologue given by Shodan that gives you all the background info you need.

>> No.8958159

>>8957791
>>8957959
Yes, you'll be fine. System Shock 2 wasn't even originally intended to be a System Shock game (original project name was Junction Point). I consider it a soft reboot of the series, and in reality, it hardly has any connection to the original. The gameplay is completely different.

>> No.8959637

>>8957791
just be aware that SS2 makes callback to the first game but otherwise you wouldn't have to care about it

>> No.8959642

>>8945461
desu I like the shooting in SS1 than in SS2

>> No.8961485

Nah

>> No.8962657

you're a fucking idiot OP

>> No.8963309

it was okay, but yeah not as good as 1

>> No.8964669

How do you avoid completely fucking yourself over? Last I heard the game has way more bad builds than good.

>> No.8964685

>>8964669
If you play on Hard - Impossible, yeah you can screw yourself easily.

I would advice to play on Normal once, you can make mistakes there, and after you find your build, specialize hard on the higher difficulties.

>> No.8964814

>>8957959
>>8958159
fun fact Dead Space was supposed to be System Shock 3, but with the massive success of RE4 it got retooled completely

>> No.8964821
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8964821

FUCKING MANDATORY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LDiTZ89j-Q

>> No.8965027

is there a randomizer for SS2? I'm tired of knowing where everything is.

>> No.8965079

>>8964669
Wasting all your ammo. If you approach it like Resident Evil and wrench most enemies you'll be fine. If you get some hacking + standard weapons it doesn't matter how retarded your build is unless you play on higher difficulties

>> No.8965102

>>8964821
There was a part in this review where they said Thief should have had the blink ability from Dishonored. They also cringed at the fact pushing buttons doesn't have a camera pan over and show what the button did. It reminded me why I don't play newer games.

>> No.8965154

>>8964669
Don't play on Hard or Impossible. You cannot screw yourself over on Normal.

>>8947328
>hating on based Body of the Many
It's the point of the game that you can stop being cautious and spend your items with abandon. Put that assault rifle on full auto and kill anything that moves.

>> No.8965173

>>8965154
>You cannot screw yourself over on Normal.
You'd be surprised. I saw a guy blow all his ammo immediately when he got it then get fucked over by the suicide droids because he had none left.

>> No.8965176

>>8964685
>>8965079
>>8965154
So it isn't THAT bad? Good to know, even in regular games I don't just fire blindly until I run out of ammo. Also I usually play on normal since harder difficulties usually rely on cheating AI and/or bullshit (or at least more so than usual and also because I don't have the same patience for vidya I had in my teenage years ) Thanks, lads

>> No.8965182

>>8965176
I also kinda put it off because of how intimidating the stats RPG stuff is. It kinda evens out over your playtime. Even if you waste EXP it doesn't really matter.

>> No.8965221

>>8965176
Actually, when you play it for the first time, you'll be overwhelmed by the complexity of the game and will feel tempted to give up, especially as you mentioned you don't have much patience. There are many separate and interconnected systems you are supposed to learn how they work and manage properly. But it's on subsequent playthroughs that the game really gets fun, since then you already know how it works and can focus on experimenting new builds.

>> No.8965410

>>8965221
>There are many separate and interconnected systems you are supposed to learn how they work and manage properly.
This is a total exaggeration. It's like how Daggerfall shills say there are 100s of complex systems but then it turns out they're all copies of eachother or barely implemented properly. So the most you can do is try to force a meme run because you've played the game to death.

>> No.8965616

>>8965182
>>8965221
Meh, I can handle interconnected systems (OG Fallout, Deus Ex, KC:D). I just don't have any more tolerance for BS from the game's part. Also, I tend to play games only once for muh story. Ideally I like feeling like I learned SOMETHING, or at least killed time in a different way

>> No.8965762

>>8965410
You're seeing it with the perspective of someone that's already familiar with the game, not a newbie

>> No.8965782

i liked ss1 but there was a bit of a learning curve. the light saber kinda shreked the game for you.
also the computer screens each having a number you needed for much later was a dick move lol.

how is ss2?

>> No.8966014

>>8965782
>how is ss2?
kino

>> No.8966019

I immediately dropped SS2 after the second door. it just didnt grab me at all. will i like ss1? I also can't play deus ex after the first mission.

>> No.8966071

>>8965782
SS2's learning curve is a wall.

>> No.8966078

>>8966019
SS1's first 2 levels are absolutely terrible but after that it picks up because SHODAN starts getting pissed and actually begins to impact the story. There's also no RPG system you can immediately change your play style at the drop of a hat. It still has that survival horror resource management thing because the levels begin to hide the respawn chamber and if you die the enemies all respawn but you get none of your resources back.

>> No.8966270

>>8944887
Once you realize how developers saw a keyboard back then none of this becomes bad or hard to play.