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Whats the most boringest taste in games youve ever seen

>> No.8929481

Zelda and FF7 fandom

>> No.8929505

>>8929481
Why"

>> No.8929563

>>8929459
Reddit Fantasy 7 and 10, Reddit Of The Colossus, Reddit Hand, Reddit Evil Remake, Reddit Hill 2, Castlevania Reddit Of The Moon, Reddit Frame 2, Reddit Crisis 1, Reddit Hearts: Covenant, Vagrant Reddit, XenoReddit, Reddit Gear Solid 2, Zelda: The Reddit Waker, Reddit May Cry 1, GTA Reddit City, Reddit Quest 5 and 8, Reddit Prime, Beyond Good & Reddit
and the worst offender of them all is Shitmue 1 and 2 the glorified walking simulators for autists

>> No.8929572

Zelda is not boring because your favorite Zelda game says a lot about you and your vidya preferences

>> No.8929580

>>8929572
WW is boring tho
and don't get me started on the non-retro tedious bland Zeldas like those abominations on the DS and 3DS

>> No.8929582

>>8929572
retarded comment

>> No.8929587

>>8929563
>Shitmue 1 and 2 the glorified walking simulators for autists
like every other open world game you retard. also you've obviously never played it

>> No.8929597

>>8929580
>3DS
ALBW is a nice game

>> No.8929609

>>8929587
>like every other open world game you retard
kys you autistic faggot, open world games are supposed to be fun to play and explore unlike shitmue the boring fest of walking from point A to point B, shitty clunky combat, QTE cancer, shitty voice acting, shitty story that goes nowhere even after 20 years and speaking of the combat despite being shilled as a beat em up you only get to fight in this piece of shit for like few times in the entire length of game
Shitmue is a disgrace to the video game industry and it's the reason behind the failure of the Dreamcast and death of Sega consoles because they trusted that hack and poured all of their money to develop his walking simulators
>you-you-you never played it
of fuck off with your pathetic cope you virgin loser
i played Shitmue 1 expecting it to get good any second only yo find myself at the credits disappointed then i went to the sequel which i've heard is the real shit only yo be even more disappointed, trash game but at least it opened my eyes of the delusion and lies of Shitmue fanbase the scum have the audacity to pretend their god awful walking simulators are better than Yakuza lmao

>> No.8929614

>>8929597
i was referring to Tri Force Heroes, you know that game even Zelda fags like to pretend it never existed

>> No.8929616

>>8929609
Another one filtered

>> No.8929618

>>8929614
Does it count as a mainline game though?

>> No.8929621

>>8929609
>Shitmue is a disgrace to the video game industry and it's the reason behind the failure of the Dreamcast and death of Sega
Damn, what a powerful game. Literally killed Sega

>> No.8929632

>>8929563
Why Shitmue and not Redditmue though? You mean it's so bad not even Reddit likes it?

>> No.8929635

>>8929609
kek so mad, and so contrarian, shenmue has alot of exploration, and lots of things to do, also various endings. so please go play the game or go neck ur self you massive retarded zoomer

>> No.8929642

>>8929609
I thought you were just baiting about but you literally typed a wall of text shitting on Shenmue, legitimate brain rot right here. You need to take a break from 4chan

>> No.8929657

>hey the new FIFA is out!
>its the same as the last 27 others!

>> No.8929673

>>8929609
Pro comment.

>> No.8929707

>>8929616
i beat the games (if you can call them games in the first place) you retarded poser, go and play that walking simulator before defending it here just because you're a contrarian liking shit games
>>8929642
>you can either be baiting or a schizo, god forbid you're just an anon sharing his honest opinion of a game few autistic contrarian losers here worship
you are the lowest of the low, a faggot who can't handle any criticize to his beloved walking simulator from his childhood as an 8 years old autistic outcast
anyone who likes Shitmue suffers from a brain rot btw
>>8929635
>so mad, and so contrarian
>projecting this hard
you live in a Yakuza world, 99.99% of people love Yakuza and shit on Shitmue for being inferior proto-Yakuza walking simulator, by being a contrarian you don't make yourself look like someone with a patrician taste oh no you just make yourself look like a complete obnoxious faggot with a shit taste

Shitlue Lost and killed the Dreamcast, Yakuza won and saved Sega
keep seething

>> No.8929712

>>8929707
>from his childhood
I played it for the first time a couple years ago after I'd already become a Yakuza fan. They are different games

>> No.8929720

>>8929563
do you actually like video games

>> No.8929726

>>8929712
>They are different games
both are open world in a sandbox, set in Japan, martial arts beat em up, RPG elements of leveling your skills, have arcades, developed by Sega....
Yakuza is a spiritual sequel to Shitmue there is no denying that, but yes they are still different, one if a fun beloved franchise of video games and one is a boring terrible franchise of walking simulators, it's no wonder why one of them is still big and alive with tons of spinoffs while the other is dead and had to rely on kickstarter begging to develop a third walking simulator

>> No.8929732

>>8929720
yes i do like good video games

>> No.8929745

>>8929726
Man you are really passionate about shitting on video games. You need to start a blog detailing why the games you've mentioned are shit. I'm a fan of most of them

>> No.8929746

nathaniel bandy

>> No.8929747

>>8929707
you are obviously a zoomer, shenmue is not a walking simulator, you can fight, like yakuza, you can do things, like yakuza, so now go neck urself

>> No.8929750

>>8929563
The most reddit post on this site by far.

>> No.8929751

>>8929726
>is a boring terrible franchise of walking simulators
thats why lots of people like it and its getting an anime adaptation. you are the only retard I've ever seen shitting on shenmue, maybe you are the problem, ever think of that?

>> No.8929759

People who are excessively into Tekken, Super Smash Brothers, and other fighting games.

>> No.8929764

>>8929657
There you go. I can't think of anything more boring than sports or racing games. You could be playing these on real life instead.

>> No.8929767

>>8929747
>shitmue is not a walking simulator,
yes it is
>you can fight, like yakuza
10 fights more or less in the entire game and with clunky ass combat and terrible skills and moves is not the same as the top notch combat in Yakuza with all the variety of moves and styles not to mention the frequency and diversity of the fights from random encounters you can get into every 30 seconds to epic boss fights
Shitmue loses in this category
>you can do things, like yakuza
such as? walking in a boring city? talking to equally autistic NPC's and suffering through one of the worst VA in vidya history? doing part time jobs like the infamous boring as fuck job at the port in the first game? the only decent activity in Shitmue games you can do is playing the Arcade games, why? because those arcade games like Space Harrier are actual good games and way better than Shitmue itself
Yakuza has far more things to do the most notable one being the side quests which are the best thing about Yakuza games
Shitmue also loses in this category, then again does Shitmue win in any category against Yakuza? lmao i think not

>> No.8929770

>>8929751
>thats why lots of people like it
the autistic shitmue fanbase? yeah sure
average player? hell no they play Yakuza instead
>getting an anime adaptation
imagine bragging about getting a Tranime of your shitty series when the games aren't even close to put a closure to the story lmao
>>8929751
>I never seen anyone rightfully shitting on shenmue
either you are a lying faggot or you live under a rock in your imaginary world where Shitmue is viewed as good franchise by the majority lol

>> No.8929772

>rally and F1 games
Who gives a fuck? Jesus Christ.

>> No.8929773

>>8929764
>. You could be playing these on real life instead.
and you can be walking outside on real life instead of playing Shitmue: the walking simulator, but trying convincing the 3 or 4 Shitmue fags on this board of that

>> No.8929775

>>8929773
Yeah, just contact a martial arts expert to murder your father, so you can go on a quest for revenge.

>> No.8929778

>>8929770
kek stay mad, you really sound like an autistic manchild, or a zoomer, anyways stay mad, ur the only dude I've seen shitting on shenmue in my entire life

>> No.8929782

>>8929572
i like wind waker and minish cap

>> No.8929795

>>8929778
>you really sound like an autistic manchild
if that was true then i would be a Shitmue fan just like (you)

>> No.8929802

Here's one. People who's taste basically begins and ends at things that were vaguely edgy twenty years ago. People who talk about GTA games and Postal as if they're legitimately good. Those people are dull as pond water.

>> No.8929814

>>8929802
kys GTA was and still popular, the old games like 3 and SA are still being replayed by lots of people today either old fans or newcomers
people love GTA because it's a fun open world game where you can do whatever you want, no one cares about the ''edgy'' factor like when zoomer pissed and shat their pants when they saw Trevor torturing that guy in V despite the old games having more fucked up moments (Cannibalism in LCS or the drug addicted suicide bombers in 3)

but you're right about Postal, the only reason it's liked and remembered is because of how edgy it was

>> No.8929821

>>8929795
bad cope

>> No.8929832

>>8929732
Name them or else you're reddit tier.

>> No.8929834

>>8929814
Nah, GTA's lame. You can tell most people who are into it don't play other games.
>dude, you can do anything!
You can drive and shoot, and the driving and shooting aren't good. If you want the open world factor, there's like a million old RPGs that are a better use of your time, there's Hitman, there's STALKER, there's Shenmue and Yakuza which have been mentioned in this thread.

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>>8929459
What is NON BORING TASTE, OP? I love how people who call stuff boring/overrated NEVER state the things they instead prefer. This should be a bannable offense imo.

>> No.8929849

>>8929834
>GTA is bad!
>but Shitmue is good!
i repeat go kys you contrarian faggot

>> No.8929858

>>8929832
Silent Hill 1, 3 and 4, DMC 3, RE3 and 4, CV Symphony Of The Night and Aria Of Sorrow, Fatal Frame 3, SMT Nocturne, Suikoden 2 and 5....
those are legit good games better than whatever reddit taste you have

>> No.8929859

>>8929834
>>8929849
You are both contrarians. GTA and Shenmue are good. Saying that GTA is bad because it's mainstream and Shenmue is bad because apparently you shouldn't play an old game if there's a newer game that does something better (Yakuza) is stupid

>> No.8929861

>>8929858
>Symphony of the Night
>better than whatever reddit taste you have
I have bad news for you anon

>> No.8929868

>>8929849
Shenmue makes a legitimate attempt at storytelling, and having a real immersive world.
GTA is a big car park full of "gags", and lifeless manikins to run over.

>> No.8929870

>>8929861
>I have bad news for you anon
oh no! you are the ''CV64 is good'' schizo poster?
>>8929859
how dare you put GTA and Shitmue in the same phrase as if they are equal?
shitmue is garbage only a contrarian or an autist would like it
Shitmue to Yakuza is what Body Harvest is to GTA, a shitty prototype tech demon that no one likes

>> No.8929872

>>8929459
Anything nintendo

>> No.8929874

>>8929859
GTA is bad because it's frivolous and shallow. If I'm not in it for the gameplay, and I'm not in it for the storytelling, or the depth and immersion factor of experiencing that world, what am I in it for? To piss off my mom?

>> No.8929880

>not only deluded Shitmue fags think their boring walking simulators are better than Yakuza but now they think they are better than GTA

>> No.8929884

>>8929880
I don't even really care about Shenmue. It's just an example of a game that does more to hold my attention than GTA does.

>> No.8929885

>>8929874
I love its gameplay, always have fun with the missions and the story is usually pretty engaging.

>> No.8929887

>>8929872
What if someone comes up to you and says
>My favorite game is Famicom Detective Club
?

>> No.8929892

>>8929872
based

>> No.8929898
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>>8929858
I put these two posts side-by-side to point out how similar what you listed is to what you criticized.

You're simply mad Reddit doesn't like the particular sequels you like (in the same series which you claim to be "mostly Reddit tier"). You didn't even list any franchises outside of your original critique. If anything, your tastes are extremely proximal to what you consider "Reddit tier".

If you were mad that some obscure/niche game X was going unnoticed but Reddit was instead paying attention to game Y and you had an argument about why its gameplay/experience is unique (e.g. Electric Underground's videos on shmups) then it would be worth hearing what you have to say. Instead, I could probably Photoshop together a collage of Reddit posts praising the particular sequels you listed and you would come back here tomorrow with a new list of games you "totally like because it's my original uninfluenced opinion, guys" because you somehow base your identity on not necessarily being original (because the games you listed were so similar to the "Reddit games" you dislike) but just being sort of an asshole that likes something that is SLIGHTLY different enough to feel a sense of elevated self-worth over people who you want to feel superior to.

The point is that it's fine to like games. Even if they're Reddit tier. So long as they're things that give you some sort of enjoyment. Who cares. But claiming some sort of superiority to other people when your tastes are in reality just extremely proximal to theirs means the energy you're using to be angry on the internet should be spent somewhere else. Or not. And you can just spend your whole life being mad about nothing. I don't even know if any of your real life friends will even remember if it was Silent Hill 2 or Silent Hill 3 that you liked. They might just remember you were just an asshole who didn't produce anything valuable.

>> No.8929905

>>8929849
not him, but gta is such an overrated piece of ultra garbage with cheap laughs and shitty physics, the fanbase is filled with retarded leftists zoomer who are always coming up with these stupud excuses "HUH bruh u cant undestand thiz gayme, is literaly a parody of the capitalist world". Driver is a better game, better car physics, better stories, and shenmue is better than gta. its like comparing a shitty marvel movie with joker

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>>8929880
>shenmue is better than gta

>> No.8929928

>>8929905
>retarded leftists zoomer
>leftists
oh fuck off you /v/ermine keep your /pol/ shit of Muh right and left faggotry away from this board
>Driver is a better game
gee....does everyone posting in this thread must be a contrarian faggot?

>> No.8929930

>>8929905
The parody aspect of GTA is so terrible too.
>durr instead of Apple computers, what if we called them Asshole computers? Funny right?
No. And what's more, it pushes you out of the world. If everything's a joke, what do you get invested in?

>> No.8929937

>>8929898
>You're simply mad Reddit doesn't like the particular sequels you like
you inbred fuck, even r*ddit agrees DMC 3, RE4 and SOTN are better than the shitty contrarian games of Reddit Evil Remake, Reddit May Cringe 1 and CV Reddit Of The Moon
>You didn't even list any franchises outside of your original critique.
see Suikoden and SMT you blind idiot
i can list tens of other games but i doubt a redditor like you ever heard of half of them you only know of popular games shilled in your subreddits like r/hidden-gems

and am not going to waste my time reading the rest of your reddit essay, i have better taste in vidya than you, the sooner you accept it the better it is

>> No.8929939

>>8929937
>even r*ddit agrees
Why are the rest of the games reddit then?..

>> No.8929947

>>8929939
because most of the contrarians who for example believe a piece of shit like Reddit Of The Moon is better than any SOTN or AOS are found on r*ddit and even so they are still just a loud minority
most of those shit games are shilled by obnoxious toxic loud minorities infesting the gaming forums and fanbases

>> No.8929951

>>8929928
kek so mad
driver car physics>gta car physics
deal with it
also another reason to dislike gta is that stupid glitch when you drive a little too fast and look back, then look forward, there will always be a car spawning right in front of you, it happens in every single 3d gta, even in gta 5 but its less noticable

>> No.8929957

>>8929767
Yakuza: Like a Redditor

>> No.8929959

>>8929767
wow, you really never played shenmue, larp more

>> No.8929962

>>8929767
>Yakuza with all the variety of moves and styles
he never played shenmue

>> No.8929967

>>8929957
Yeah and there is Soilent instead of Tauriner and Staminan

>> No.8929970

>boringest
Why did so many people respond earnestly to this thread?

>> No.8929985

>>8929967
Heh. Don't forget your Reddit Drop.

>> No.8930709

>>8929887
I tell them it's not and they're gay

>> No.8931186

im not any of those guys but i really cant get into yakuza at all. i like shenmue better. i have no nostalgia clouding judgement for either

>> No.8931193

>>8929563
so what games do you like? Stupid fu cking poser. retarded little cocksucker

>> No.8931201

>>8929459
When someone who claims to play video games for their stories is unwilling to touch anything that doesn't involve Nintendo or Sonic.

>> No.8931207

>>8931201
why are you being an asshole?

>> No.8931210

>>8929459
Halo and Pokemon are instant eye-glazers for me.

>> No.8931215

>>8931210
At least those arent fake gamer shit like >>8929563

>> No.8931216

>>8929898
the effortposter this thread needs, but not the one it deserves

>> No.8931219

>>8931216
>>8929898
no its not. im not the guy he was talking to but his post made me feel horrible. im never going to be able to do anything with my life. ive never had any friends. ill never make a game.
i dont get why you guys just demoralize everyone

>> No.8931220

>>8929459
>Whats the most boringest taste in games youve ever seen
Mine, and I like it that way.
Keeps games from being serious and keeps me from hating them. People that take this shit way too serious never seem to be happy.

>> No.8931223

>>8929563
Man, that site sounds pretty kickass! Tell me more about it.

>> No.8931225

>>8931220
>bro caring about your hobby is so cringe so i just care about nothing instead
wow cool
fuck off

>> No.8931247

>>8931225
It would be a hobby if I didn't care about it.
It wouldn't be a hobby if it pissed me off.

>> No.8931252

>>8931247
that doesnt even make sense

>> No.8931267
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>>8931219
My intention isn't to demoralize. It's to dismantle a mental maze that person created for themselves which they mentally navigate endlessly with no escape. That maze is being about being mad about something that doesn't make sense to be mad about. You are wasting energy that could be used elsewhere. If you repeat this infinitely, your energy will be used on nothing and you will die having achieved nothing, plain and simple.

Being mad about "Redditors who like garbage games!" in this case doesn't make sense because the "reason" they were mad was that Reddit didn't like specific sequels or games in extremely similar franchises (e.g. similar staff/public awareness) when their tastes are actually extremely proximal to the "Reddit tastes" they claim are terrible.

(1/2)

>> No.8931270

>>8931267
i dont really care about peoples tastes in video games though.

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>>8931219
If you want to do something with your life, it would be a shame you spent your time here being angry over nonsense like the above poster was mad about, calling game X overrated when the games they prefer are EXTREMELY proximal to X. Buy a notebook. Write down "What will it take to make me feel satisfied with myself and how do I get there?" and answer that question sincerely. Then take action. Don't just sit around and listlessly play games just to distract yourself. Enroll in a course for a skill you don't have. Make progress on your game and post it somewhere. There are agdg threads. You can also get a blogspot or whatever. Ask yourself this question, do you find yourself refreshing pages on games for "research" because you feel like your game "needs the best inspiration or else people won't care about it?"

An interesting question I recently asked myself is: "Would I care to constantly check in on video game forums/twitch streams if my game was already done and completed to my own standards?" and my personal answer to that question is "No" for the most part, but there are a handful of games I that I genuinely find fun (e.g. DoDonPachi). So technically, playing games is just a way for me to procrastinate and forever be trapped by the feeling of never having completed my game, which has wrecked my life in a lot of places. So yes. I want to be done with my game to have put an awesome game out there that people can like (similar to how I like DoDonPachi) and not really to make some political statement, inflate my narcissism, or get rich (but I don't plan on doing all this for free).

I also want to make a game. Here I am, writing this post instead of doing homework for a course I'm in.

(2/2)

>> No.8931275

>>8931267
You're doing yeoman's work, Anon!

>> No.8931276

>>8931273
nah man its just impossible to do anything in this world. its too late.
i cant learn to code or to draw or to make music or to write. i went to school for programming. it didnt work. i just couldnt absorb that stuff. i dont have the autism or whatever

>> No.8931281

>>8929459
>Whats the most boringest taste in games youve ever seen
People that make blatant bait threads and people who reply to them unironically or without saging.
You're all cancerous.

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>>8931276
Then even if it takes you 5x/10x/20x times longer, you can still get it done before you die. Not trying just means you died having been a quitter and having enjoyed zero success. Your choice is simple. Work your ass off knowing things will take you 5x as long or die having done nothing because you were unwilling to do something you loved because you weren't instantly the best at it.

>> No.8931287

>>8931281
This isn't a bait thread though, that's not how I intended it.

>> No.8931293

>>8931219
>i dont get why you guys just demoralize everyone
They're miserable and lonely and want to spread their misery to other people to feel better about themselves.

>ive never had any friends
I feel for you anon. I got lucky. It's almost as hard making friends as it is finding love, and it can feel like getting older makes these things more difficult. I hope you find some companionship someday.

>ill never make a game
I feel this one hard. I grew extremely passionate about a game idea several years ago but hit so many roadblocks because I was too dumb to learn to code or compose or anything substantial and had to give up on it. It's hard.

>> No.8931294

>>8931286
Can you stop posting this generic feel good stuff? It doesn't fucking work. You don't know my situation or how hard I tried at all. I got a masters in CS. still cant code. I am a 34 year old neet of nearly ten years. I just dont have it in me. no matter how hard i tried. it didnt work.

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>>8931219: >i dont get why you guys just demoralize everyone
>>8931294: >Can you stop posting this generic feel good stuff? It doesn't fucking work
Make up your mind

>> No.8931310

>>8931293
the world just seems to be a really lonely place where you feel like you're trapped and being chased by something at the same time. people in ivory towers tell you that you can do anything you want meanwhile you're in hell and can't even find something to you're sure you 'want'. someone whose done something since he was a kid wants to tell me how easy it is...yeah for you maybe.
i was a good student. i did everything right. but i learned too late that that's the wrong way to live apparently. nobody told me any better. now im just a loser who cant do anything.

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>>8931294
>Can you stop posting this generic feel good stuff?
>>8931219
>i dont get why you guys just demoralize everyone

Make up your mind

>> No.8931331

>>8929746
Kek you right

>> No.8931336

The worst part of this stuff is if you were born 20 years earlier you could have gotten your job in games as a walk-on and learn on your feet. But nobody cares about the individual employee now and they care even less about training them so your only option is to be a rockstar indie dev who can do it all

>> No.8931338

I genuinely think people who only play MMOs and RTS games are subhumans. Also if you can't play a game unless it's in a fantasy setting you are literally retarded, stop being autistic over shit that has nothing to do with the actual gameplay.

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>>8931310
Focus on what you want to do.
Tunnel vision it with zero interest in what the rest of the world is doing.
You could die tomorrow and the world will continue operating the next day.

This isn't a reason to despair. It's a reason for you to realize no one gives a shit you did or didn't do XYZ. Public approval is fickle and stupid. People are inherently parasites that only show interest in people who can get them shit. Fuck people.

People who have done great things are people who give so little a shit about the rest of the world that they chose to do what they thought was interesting regardless of "how far behind" or "how old" they were. They didn't even have the availability to think about those things. They just got started with what they cared about, got hooked, and never looked back.

The social world is gay and I live under a rock.
The news exists to make you feel bad and should be ignored.
Friends are ultimately barnacles who want you to stay in the same league as them or else they'll sabotage you.

Fuck people.
Embrace autism.
Buy a notebook.
Take action.
Don't let a dream just be a dream.

Otherwise you're just "Reddit tier" like you said, right?

>> No.8931350

>>8931338
>RTS games are subhumans
Every person I've met who was good at RTSes was easily 10-15 points above average IQ

>> No.8931364

>>8931338
>I genuinely think people who only play one genre are subhumans
Fixed. Much simpler and still correct.

>stop being autistic over shit that has nothing to do with the actual gameplay.
So you'd still play video games if the gameplay advanced but everything was still in Atari graphics?

>> No.8931371

>>8931294
>>8931310
Not all advice works on everyone. I don't know your or what will help. None of us do. Maybe nothing will.
The only thing close to advice I can give you is that if life really feels that bleak then what do you have to lose taking chances and allowing yourself to be autistic? Go to a therapist. Chat up strangers. I'm not religious but fuck man, even going to church can at least give you some sense of being cared for or wanted.
If you hate your life and you have no friends then what do you have to lose? Nothing. You can't lose friends if you're friendless and you can't get fired from a cushy job if you don't have one.

>> No.8931430

>>8931341
you're talking to the wrong guy. i didnt post >>8929563 and im not sure where i said i cared a bout all that other stuff. wtf are you even talking about

>> No.8931436

>>8931371
>If you hate your life and you have no friends then what do you have to lose?
advice so shit its on par with
>bro you're suicidal? AWESOME that means you have NOTHING to lose you can go sky diving you can do anything you're so LUCKY

>> No.8931445

>>8931430
What I wrote didn't assume you wrote that post. It still holds.

>> No.8931448

>>8931445
but it doesnt because you explicitly reference that post and a bunch of other bizarre stuff that i never said once

>> No.8931451

>>8929459
Western fps garbage and sports games.

>> No.8931457

>>8931448
In the post you quoted, I do not.

>> No.8931459

>>8931457
but you literally did. like whats with the weird tangent about autism and 'fuck other people' that has nothing to do with the conversation

>> No.8931462

>>8931451
Counter-Strike is genuinely good. Some aspects of Doom are alright (Doom 3 is bad though). Valorant adds the worst aspects of League of Legends to Counter-Strike (e.g. requiring you to play a certain way based on whether or not you were lucky to get the character you wanted to play).

Rest is trash.

>> No.8931467
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8931467

>>8931459
>but you literally did
Where

>> No.8931482

>>8929563
>No RedditBound or Reddit Slug titles
Guess im in the clear.

>> No.8931490

>>8931467
literally the last sentence

>> No.8931492

>>8929930
Its fine. Would take me out a hundred times more if they used actual products. GTA was never supposed to be some serious drama, it was a goofy car stealing sim where you could run people down, the ultra capitalistic parody of American culture fits.

>> No.8931502

>>8931490
Ok. You don't consider things Reddit tier. That words has been thrown around this thread so much I couldn't keep track. The rest is still valid. If you don't think it's helpful then do what you want.

I guess in my case "Let no good deed go unpunished" lmao.

>> No.8931503

>>8931219
that's good, kill yourself right now and do everyone a favor.

>> No.8931507

>>8931294
unironically kill yourself. stop leeching off of the world and do at least one good thing by erasing your existence.

>> No.8931509

>>8931502
but when did i imply that the opinion of others was holding me back? my problem is that theres no way i can be good at anything. ive never had a hobby or skill in my entire life. im just a void of a person that nobody wants to help

>> No.8931510

>>8931509
kill yourself dude.

>> No.8931512

>>8929459
>Whats the most boringest taste in games youve ever seen
Tastefags. You actually care what some asshole on 4chan thinks of a game?
Reviewfags. Worse than tastefags, they won't play a game unless it gets stellar review scores from journo trannies.
Multiplayer fags who play over the internet with their group of friends for long periods of time, the game is secondary to them "socializing" over chat. That's pretty fucking boring.

>> No.8931513

>>8931510
what did i do to you?

>> No.8931515

>>8931509
>but when did i imply that the opinion of others was holding me back?
Because if you didn't care about people's opinions....
> my problem is that theres no way i can be good at anything. ive never had a hobby or skill in my entire life. im just a void of a person that nobody wants to help
...this wouldn't stop you from just doing stuff regardless if you're good at them or not. People don't necessarily need to help you in order for you to get good at a skill. Having a teacher/mentor WILL help you, you can pay for those, but the other half of the equation is you simply getting started and putting in the hours, no matter how painful it feels to be doing something you're not good at. Literally all hard skills are developed this way.

>> No.8931520

>>8931515
what are you saying? ive never cared about what others thought of my shit. the opinion of others isnt what stops me, its that im incapable of doing it to begin with. ive already tried. i paid for mentors. i busted my ass. i got nothing. i cant fucking do it

>> No.8931528

>>8931336
This. Fucking this. 99% of the big Legends of the industry were simple microcomputer bedroom coders or right place/right time folks. Notice how the number of actual new big name devs is extremely small. Sure, back in the day you could get away being a 1 man operation and making an impact, but now its damn neat impossible to make anything "big" without being a billion dollar company.

>> No.8931532

>>8931528
look up literally any creative in games if you want to seethe hard
>Yamaoka attended Tokyo Art College,where he studied product design and interior design. He originally planned to follow a career in design.
>Yamaoka joined Konami on September 21, 1993. He immediately began to work on the games Contra: Hard Corps, Sparkster, and Sparkster: Rocket Knight Adventures 2. Shortly thereafter, he worked on the music for the PC Engine and Sega CD versions of Snatcher. When Konami began searching for a musician to compose Silent Hill's score, Yamaoka volunteered because he thought he was the only one capable of making the soundtrack. Although initially hired as a composer, he soon became involved in overall sound design

>> No.8931545
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>>8931528
>This. Fucking this. 99% of the big Legends of the industry were simple microcomputer bedroom coders or right place/right time folks. Notice how the number of actual new big name devs is extremely small. Sure, back in the day you could get away being a 1 man operation and making an impact, but now its damn neat impossible to make anything "big" without being a billion dollar company.
This is just a cope.
Those people in that era had to be lucky enough to have parents willing to give them a Commodore64 or an Apple II so they could self-teach themselves programming (BASIC or C) in order to get that job. Virtually no non-undergraduate Computer Science courses existed at that period of time (and LITERALLY NO college CS courses touched game development topics).

The point is that at every epoch of time, there are always adversities and boons you can take advantage of. Regardless of the challenges/boons, the people who are determined succeed will do so no matter how much sweat and blood is required.

tl;dr don't be bitch-made and use that as a cope for not making your game. No one is going to come to you with a million dollars and a set of mentors to teach you how to make it. John Carmack was literally arrested for stealing a computer to make games because he wasn't going to let his impoverished upbringing get in his way of making his game. This is the mindset you need to have. Let nothing get in your way.

>> No.8931556

>>8931520
>its that im incapable of doing it to begin with. ive already tried. i paid for mentors. i busted my ass. i got nothing. i cant fucking do it
Your mentor (or yourself) should be able to tell you what you're doing wrong. Can you even name what's wrong?
>I'm bad at X.
Okay. Why? What about it is bad?
Break it down. Why are you bad at these things? Get a notebook. Write out what you've tried so you don't repeat yourself. Knowing what doesn't work is part of how you find out what does.

>> No.8931557

>>8931545
but many of them didnt even touch a computer and weren't even that determined to work in games. literally just falling into video games.
your weird zoomer 4chaninspired 'alphamale' positivity doesnt work

>> No.8931558

>>8931193
>fu cking
this isn't reddit you inbred newfag retard there is no ban on saying ''fuck''

>> No.8931564

>>8931557
>but many of them didnt even touch a computer and weren't even that determined to work in games. literally just falling into video games.
>your weird zoomer 4chaninspired 'alphamale' positivity doesnt work
I have literally met many of these fucking boomer PASCAL/BASIC programmers and they all had a mindset of doing everything it takes to self-teach themselves stuff because if you think CS teachers are incompetent in today's society you cannot begin to imagine how incompetent they used to be.

>> No.8931565

>>8931556
I just cant do it. I cant code so thats out(which is the only way to make a game yourself)
I cant draw at all. maybe i could make music or write but i have no idea how to do it on a computer and thats not really an indemand skill and its not something that leads me to making games at all

>> No.8931567

>>8929572
They are all the same

>> No.8931572

>>8929563
Would’ve been better bait if you’d used the word Reddit in the less obvious slots.

>> No.8931573

>>8931545
john carmack was literally a 1 in a million sociopathic prodigy so i have no fucking clue why would ever cite him as inspiration

>> No.8931574

>>8931267
>>8931273
Upvoted! enjoy your gold bro!

>> No.8931576

>>8931564
why are you hyperfocusing on these programmers? when did i mention programming?

>> No.8931578

>>8931281
>saging
kys faggot, i bet you also use filters

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>>8931565
>I just cant do it. I cant code so thats out(which is the only way to make a game yourself)
Answer why you can't code without using the expression "I just can't code". Why can you specifically not code?
>I cant draw at all. maybe i could make music or write but i have no idea how to do it on a computer and thats not really an indemand skill and its not something that leads me to making games at all
This is the art that Jonathan Blow used to prototype Braid. Do you think he shipped his game with his programmer art? No. He didn't give up. He got a fun, playable game, and then showed it to people who also thought it was fun and playable and then eventually paid for an artist to help him.

It is impossible that you cannot draw as well as what Jon Blow did here and that's the minimum to get the game working. No game developer started out with a prototype that looked gorgeous enough to sell. 90% of dev time is spent with the game looking terrible until the last 10% of the time when the polish is added.

>> No.8931587

>>8931515
Its not about being bad at it, its not being able to even grasp the basic concepts that allow you to be an amateur.

If we are talking making games: an artist can draw shitty, a musician and play shitty, a writer can write shitty, but you cant bumble fuck your way into making a game if you can't code, you wont get a shitty game, you wont get anything at all. Its not an art, its like trying to build a car or something, you cant just start bad and get better if you cant understand how to do it to begin with.

>> No.8931590

>>8931482
those are good games
but Mother 3 is a reddit game

>> No.8931593

>>8931582
>t is impossible that you cannot draw as well as what Jon Blow did here
It is very possible
I just cant learn to code man. its a total block. Its not something I can do. theres a very hard limit on what i can do. anything slightly advanced i cant grasp. and if i try to do a project on my own i just stare at a blank page with no clue how to start

>> No.8931596

>>8931587
>If we are talking making games: an artist can draw shitty, a musician and play shitty, a writer can write shitty, but you cant bumble fuck your way into making a game if you can't code, you wont get a shitty game, you wont get anything at all. Its not an art, its like trying to build a car or something, you cant just start bad and get better if you cant understand how to do it to begin with.
This is nonsense. I know many programmers who make games that make money with terrible code (literally just for-each'ing arrays with no other data structures).

In the same way you need a minimum number of lines for a drawing to resemble a person, you do need a minimum number of lines of code for it to be a binary that compiles.

The majority of games you probably love were written with code that wouldn't pass in a modern technical interview.

>> No.8931604

>>8931593
>I just cant learn to code man
>Answer why you can't code without using the expression "I just can't code". Why can you specifically not code?

>> No.8931607

>>8931604
i already told you everything. its just liking smashing my head against a wall where for others they pass right through it.

>> No.8931609

>>8931607
>its just liking smashing my head against a wall
What part of it is "like smashing your head against a wall"?

>> No.8931614

>>8931609
i dont understand the question

>> No.8931616

>>8931614
What part of programming is "like smashing your head against a wall"?

>> No.8931617

>>8931616
the whole thing

>> No.8931618

>>8931617
Did you try taking a CS course?

>> No.8931620

>>8931618
yeah i even somehow graduated in it

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>>8931620
Then I have no idea how to help you spare from sitting with you 1-on-1 over Discord or something to walk you through making a game and I don't know if I'd even be comfortable doing that.

If you have a degree in CS, you understand data structures, you understand calculus/trig/linear algebra, you understand undergrad physics. These things are what you need to make a game.

Download Unity or Unreal. Make a game using capsules or boxes. Alternately learn to make a human rig with boxes for limbs in Blender if you want a character. There are free youtube tutorials that show how to do this. Make your animations from looking up videos on Youtube and just copy what you see in Blender keyframes. Import that into your game. There are tutorials on Youtube that show how to do this.

I'm not sure what else to tell you. If you really want your game to happen, you will be relentlessly obsessive about bringing it to fruition. You might just be letting too many worthless distractions (the news, /pol/, video game happenings) sap your focus from you mentally staying on the target long enough to consider all of the options to get the prototype for your game done.

I legitimately wish you well and hope you fight the good fight to actually get your game done. I am also on the same journey.

>> No.8931658

>>8931645
>you understand data structures,
no
>you understand calculus/trig/linear algebra,
no
> you understand undergrad physics
no
>download unity
dont know how
>you're distracted from...
i dont pay attention to any of that.
ive been a neet for ten years. most of that time is spent sleeping or staring at a wall. sometimes i play an old video game

>> No.8931663

>>8931645
i dont learn from youtube tutorials or reading online pdfs. i need in person teaching. its just the only way ive ever learned anything.

>> No.8931669

>>8929563
>XenoReddit
which one

>> No.8931673

>>8931658
Data structures and algorithms are a required portion of any CS degree.

I would expect any half-decent CS degree to also require calculus and undergrad physics. It isn't always the case they require linear algebra though. But you can grasp it pretty well if you know trig and calculus well.

If you don't understand those things, your degree is meaningless and you should re-attend a community college with the intention to understand:
> Data Structures and Algorithms
> Calculus I, II, III (and IV if offered)
> Trigonometry
> Physics (for engineers) I, II
> Linear Algebra (if offered)

So go do that.

>download unity
>dont know how
Come on man. I think I've distracted myself from my homework long enough posting in this thread at this point.

>> No.8931680

>>8931673
I sincerely dont know how to download unity
>go back to community college
...no way.
was your post meant to demoralize me even more? because i feel like i got the wind-i-didnt-know-i-had knocked out of me

>> No.8931683 [DELETED] 

>>8931673
Calculus really isn't necessary for computers to be honest. Algebra is way more necessary. any place that tries to shill Calc IV to a CS major is a joke College is so insane. CS majors would benefit more from proofs, discrete math, algebra, logic courses than any time wasted in calculus

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>>8931663
>i need in person teaching
Then get it in addition to learning how to teach yourself from a YT video or PDF. It is literally impossible you have lived your life in the university without having to teach yourself from YT.
>>8931680
>I sincerely dont know how to download unity
...Google it dude........

>was your post meant to demoralize me even more? because i feel like i got the wind-i-didnt-know-i-had knocked out of me
Literally every CS degree requires data structures and algorithms. If you don't understand that one piece at the bare minimum, your degree is not a CS degree period.

It's not to demoralize you. It's to literally tell you the truth. Which means you can be helped by taking the courses I listed _which should be part of most if not all CS degrees_. At this point I'm beginning to question if you were telling the truth about having a degree in the first place but I'm not looking to publicly humiliate you so you don't need to admit this. My intention is just to help someone like I would want to be helped.

>> No.8931701

>>8931695
i never used YT i just got personal help from professors and tutors. I really cant go back to school. I dont want to support those places. but i cant learn from the internet either. ive struggled with math all my life. i have no ability to compute numbers or keep them in my head. im way better at logic and set theory.

>> No.8931703

>>8931683
>Calculus really isn't necessary for computers to be honest.
Calculus is what lets you understand how physics in a game is modeled along with understanding how to do image processing with shaders. It's also a required course for virtually any CS degree. There's this bizarre meme that Calculus somehow isn't important and then those same programmers come to me not understanding why things in graphics are represented as "gradients" or "taylor series". It's because you thought Calculus wasn't important when it is.

>> No.8931706

>>8931701
I gave you more help than you're probably ever going to get from a random stranger on a place like 4chan. All the tools are in front of you, you just have to make it happen. Community college courses are generally pretty affordable. Take the courses I highlighted and you should be fine to make a game. Or not.

It was fun posting in this thread but I actually have to go now.

>> No.8931708

>>8931706
all you've taught me is that everything is so far out of my reach that any idea that i could even try to do it is a delusion. you've made my hopeless life that much more hopeless. you told me i need to go to school for 5 more years before even thinking of making a game. but the people back in the day didnt need to do that. they didnt need to do any of this. they just made games.

>> No.8931727

>>8931596
Coding is not something you can learn like a traditional art. Its like learning a language or chemistry. You need a brain capable of processing how you break down and work it. Anyone can draw if you tell them to or whistle. You cant just tell someone to go code a piece of software.

If the basics dont stick, its literally impossible.

>> No.8931731

>>8931669
not Reddit Saga