/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8926381]

>Resident Evil 4 sucks on PS2 because the graphics are worse
>Resident Evil on Saturn has retarded looking models and the transparent effects are now dithered but it's better because... IT JUST IS OK??
Explain this phenomenon

[Anonymous No.8926385]

>>8926381
No one says that

[Anonymous No.8926389]

>>8926381
>plays the game on a saturn emulator

[Anonymous No.8926407]

>>8926381
Other than the dithering, all other graphical differences with Saturn Resident Evil boil down to personal preference. Some people prefer the look and feel of the Saturn models over the PS1 models. And the dithering looks just fine on a CRT using composite.

Where Saturn pulls a head of the original PS1 release is the additional bonus material and that it saves significantly faster. Sure you can argue those things are minor, but that and the personal preference of the way the models look is why most who prefer the Saturn version prefer it.

Seriously, what's with all this stupid console warring lately? Why can't people have personal tastes and preferences when it comes to what version of a game they want to play?

[Anonymous No.8926412]

>>8926381
Shitturn fags are mentally ill just ignore them

[Anonymous No.8926432]

>>8926412
thats why some games are better on saturn

[Anonymous No.8926454]

>retarded looking models vs retarded looking models with warping polygons
Hmm..

[Anonymous No.8926458]

I played it on Nintendo Switch.

[Anonymous No.8926475]

>>8926432
I fail to see the correlation, senpai

[Anonymous No.8926478]

>>8926475
thats because ur a gaystation fag and think its better. also cringe reply

[Anonymous No.8926481]

>>8926454
kek this

[Anonymous No.8926489]

>>8926381
>>Resident Evil 4 sucks on PS2 because the graphics are worse
>Resident Evil 2 on the N64 is a MASTERPIECE and technological wonder because the graphics are worse

[Anonymous No.8926496]

>>8926489
The graphics are better. Nothing is worse than wobbly PS1 shit
>>8926454
Saturn also warps. N64 was the only 5th gen console with good graphics

[Anonymous No.8926497]

>>8926496
>The graphics are better
objectively false

[Anonymous No.8926508]

>>8926385
lurk moar. saturn/DSfags don't understand Resident Evil

[Anonymous No.8926512]

But with the Playstation version of 2 two ppl can play it with one copy of the gaem that a clear winner in my book.

[Anonymous No.8926537]

>>8926496
>N64 was the only 5th gen console with good graphics
>puke textures
>bad res
>blury mess
you mean the worst

[Anonymous No.8926542]

>>8926497
can I see saturn textures

[Anonymous No.8926553]

>>8926497
>240p
moot point

[Anonymous No.8926560]

>>8926537
You forgot 20 FPS games

[Anonymous No.8926573]

>>8926381
You ARE playing the game on an actual Sega Saturn over composite on a CRT, right OP?

[Anonymous No.8926576]

>>8926542
>240p
moot point

[Anonymous No.8926578]

>>8926496
>The graphics are better
Certified mentally ill

[Anonymous No.8926587]

>>8926560
you mean single digit fps, some games are just unplayable on the n64, grew up with a ps1, then later bought a saturn, and finally decided to buy a n64, and I have to say, what a disappointment, the n64 looks like shit compared to the ps1 and saturn, its just a big low resolution blurry mess, the sound quality is shit, couldn't find any controller with a working joystick, but the fps drops are really the worst thing about the console, makes the games unplayable, so I sold it and bought more saturn games.
the nostalgia64 is really an overrated piece of shit

[Anonymous No.8926617]

>>8926573
>You ARE sure that you did everything to blur the picture to unrecognizability, right OP?

[Anonymous No.8926625]

>>8926573
of course not, hes a /vr/gin, never touched real hardware in his life

[Anonymous No.8926664]

>>8926496
Saturn warping is fundamentally different from PS1 warping. Saturn warping only happens as polygons approach the edge of the frustrum. It can be mitigated by subdividing the polygons as they get closer to the edge of the screen.

[Anonymous No.8926749]

The backgrounds look better. They weren't just "ported" from the PSX too, they were taken from the source material which is made evident by how several backgrounds have details that differ from the PSX version.

The 3D models don't look "worse", they look different. IMO some look worse, some look better. They also have a lot less polygon jitter than on PSX.

Quite a lot of exclusive content, which, unlike in other versions (DS touchscreen shit, puke inducing costumes of the PC version etc) are actually excellent.

There are some bugfixes, such items that were invisible for no reason on PSX are now visible.

The Japanese Saturn version is fully uncensored. Alongside of the PC version, these are the only two version of the game which are fully uncensored.

[Anonymous No.8926752]

One example of the uncensoring, you can actually see the zombies eat Chris' ass, unlike in the PSX version

[Anonymous No.8926759]

More uncensoring

[Anonymous No.8926761]

>the 3D models look worse

You wouldn't say that to Jill's face now would you?

[Anonymous No.8926765]

[Anonymous No.8926770]

The new enemy has a new decapitation move. Not only it looks awesome but it makes it more dangerous than Hunters because they are more likely to use the moves than Hunter's decapitation.

[Anonymous No.8926824]

I like the Saturn version, lack of transparencies aside. I don't think the new models are bad either, just different. I haven't checked for myself but apparently the NTSC-J version has more gore than any other release.

I just made a video going into the best versions of RE1 and REmake, Saturn is definitely a decent way to play but obviously not as accessible as the other releases. Hopefully this is useful or entertaining for someone. I love RE1, it's a beautiful game that everyone should try.

https://youtu.be/gHhAAjuOi8s

[Anonymous No.8926954]

>>8926537
>puke textures
>bad res
>blury mess
Yeah, just like PS1 and Saturn.

[Anonymous No.8926959]

>>8926749
>backgrounds look better
not really. in some cases they may look about 2-5% less compressed but mostly they just look different because capcom re-rendered a lot of them at slightly different angles.
>items that were invisible for no reason on PSX are now visible
any examples?

[Anonymous No.8926963]

>>8926824
>NTSC-J version has more gore than any other release
like >>8926749 said, the japanese PC version has the same gore

[Anonymous No.8926968]

>>8926749
>Quite a lot of exclusive content
Yeah, like Battle Game and.
Uhhhh...

...right. I'll stick with Director's Cut.

[Anonymous No.8926978]

>>8926968
Also additional new enemies, bosses, etc.

[Anonymous No.8926985]

>>8926978
I think the new boss is just fighting the Tyrant again right?

[Anonymous No.8926996]

>>8926978
>new enemies
One slightly adjusted Hunter (Tick) and a Wesker skinned zombie in Battle Mode
>bosses
*Boss, a recolored Tyrant also exclusive to battle mode.

You are such a disingenuous fuck.
I love the Saturn, but RE1's port offers very little of value. It's worth one playthrough at best before you go back to DC, DS and REmake.

[Anonymous No.8926997]

>>8926824
Video saved, I'll watch later. There really is something special about resident evil and the remake. My 2 favourite games

[Anonymous No.8927024]

>>8926963
> the japanese PC version has the same gore

The PC versions are fully uncensored in all regions

>>8926959
>any examples

https://tcrf.net/Resident_Evil_(Sega_Saturn)#Visible_Items

The key in the basement arms room is quite a big deal imo, very easy to miss in the original version

[Anonymous No.8927030]

>>8926968
What makes the directors cut the one to play?

[Anonymous No.8927104]

>>8927030
Basically just for the original Japanese difficulty and arrange mode, which is great stuff. Some people prefer the US difficulty with no auto-aim, but its one of those things they only changed so that NTSC players would have a harder time beating it as a rental. Saturn version also has this difficulty outside of Japan. Just stay away from the Dualshock Version of the Director's Cut, which has a different soundtrack. Some of it is actually good, but there are the infamously awful tracks and then other tracks which are just a downgrade.

[Anonymous No.8927106]

>>8927104
Forgot to mention, the Arrange Mode is harder than the original US difficulty anyway, aside from the auto-aim.

[Anonymous No.8927224]

>>8926752
Does your character's head stay in the Hunter's hand after they decap you in this version? I don't remember which version that happens in.

[Anonymous No.8927226]

>>8927224
That's only in a prototype version, never made it into any retail version

[Anonymous No.8927252]

segautists are so easy to trigger

[Anonymous No.8927259]

>>8926996
>Mentions new enemies and bosses.
>Confirms there's new bosses and enemies.
>Accuses of being disingenuous
How is that being disingenuous? The point is Saturn Resident Evil isn't a bad port and it's a perfectly acceptable version to play. You're not really missing a whole lot by playing it over the PS1 version, just as you argue that you're not missing much playing the PS1 version over the Saturn version.

Why is there this need to have these silly console wars when it comes to games that are good on both platforms?

[Anonymous No.8927265]

>>8926381
It's not better. It's different.

[Anonymous No.8927436]

>>8926954
ok whatever makes you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.8927487]

>>8926407
>Why can't people have personal tastes and preferences when it comes to what version of a game they want to play?
Because individualism is bad, didn't you read the manifesto?

[Anonymous No.8927523]

>>8926664
No, Saturn warps due to perspective too. Distortion at screen edges is something different and not warping per se.

[Anonymous No.8927726]

>>8926824
This is the first time I ever hear anyone ever mention the Ultra2000 version. I had figured everyone wanted the SourceNext or Rendition Verite version. Got it from a 7-Eleven, and that's pretty cool it has a patch for modern usage. Since I only go so far as Win7 would that patch still work or is 10/11 what was really meant by modern?

[Anonymous No.8927904]

>>8927252
upvoted

[Anonymous No.8928050]

>>8927104
this. still 2nd to mediakite+rebirth patch though

[Anonymous No.8928295]

>>8927104
Thanks for that, arrange mode sounds good. I'm on it

[Anonymous No.8928301]

>>8926407
>is the additional bonus material
Fuck off with this meme. You're the type of retard who will insist the Donnie Darko Director's Cut is better cause le more=better! Fucking cunt shut the hell up go die before I throw a pie at your face and make you cry.

[Anonymous No.8928319]

>>8928301

[Anonymous No.8928340]

>>8928301
>psfag cope

[Anonymous No.8928436]

>>8926749
>The Japanese Saturn version is fully uncensored. Alongside of the PC version, these are the only two version of the game which are fully uncensored.
Pretty sure the JP-PlayStation version were uncensored too.

[Anonymous No.8928991]

>>8926824
Nice video, it was very informative and had good editing. But I must disagree wholeheartedly about recommending first time players to play Jill's campaign first in RE1. Chris's campaign is clearly the intended way to experience the game; he does the intro narration, a good chunk of the other characters dialogue is speaking to Chris or referring to him, the Chris-Wesker rivalry of future games is more clear by playing the original rather than REmake, and you only get a congratulations message by beating his campaign.

If you read about the game's development, Chris was intended to be the game's main character from some of the earliest stages and Jill would have been playable only upon beating the game. However, even in the finished product, Chris's campaign is much more representative of the dev's mission statement behind the game, that is making the player carefully consider their actions particularly when it comes to combat and inventory management.

[Anonymous No.8929890]

>>8926759
gnarly

[Anonymous No.8929908]

>>8926389
Many saturn games actually play better on an emulator, since you can turn the meshes into true transparency, eliminate slowdowns, and get infinite save space in the internal memory.

[Anonymous No.8929919]

>>8929908
>you can turn the meshes into true transparency
heresy

[Anonymous No.8929925]

>>8929908
>since you can turn the meshes into true transparency

I can do that with my crt >eliminate slowdowns

there is no slowdowns that bothers me
>and get infinite save space in the internal memory

why? I have my cartridge
saturn games on emulator are pixelated af

[Anonymous No.8929929]

>>8929925
esl

[Anonymous No.8929958]

>>8929929
>esl
true, sorry if I'm not a brainded amerimut who only knows english. also shit tier argument

[Anonymous No.8930060]

>Jill's state after reading this thread

[Anonymous No.8930085]

What are transparencies?

[Anonymous No.8930094]

Scariest shit in the entire game, right here.

[Anonymous No.8930269]

>>8928301
You should feel embarrassed for posting this

[Anonymous No.8930369]

>>8927523
Except it really doesn't. You don't see the same kind of texture warping all over the screen like you do on PS1. The only time you see textures distort is when large polygons approach the edge of the screen.

You are correct that neither have perspective correct polygon rendering, and neither have subpixel accuracy. But those cause different issues and are not the same as texture warping.

[Anonymous No.8930413]

>>8930369
Lack of perspective correction is exactly what causes textures to warp. That's what it means by definition. You're wrong.