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Why the fuck did they think releasing this was a good idea?
>A year after Mario Kart 64, a game with 16 courses and a selection of items
>A month after Diddy Kong racing, a game with 20 tracks, 3D racers and an adventure mode
The fact that you can 100% Sonic R in 30 minutes to an hour is just insulting.

>> No.8859754

CAN YOU FEEL THE SUNSHINE?
DOES IT BRIGHTEN UP YOUR DAY?

>> No.8859757

>>8859693
because it was that or nothing. saturn is the most mismanaged big player console ever released. it is like everyone at sega was smoking crack.

>> No.8859768

>>8859693
Still manages to be the only good 3D Sonic game and no, I'm not taking boostshit as an answer.

>> No.8859908

>>8859757
this

>> No.8859910

>>8859693
So this is the power of saturn exclusive games
No games machine

>> No.8859913

>>8859910
It's great knowing the /v/ console wars of 2006 live on in 2022 on the /vr/ board.

>> No.8859920

>>8859913
Just stating facts
The Mega Drive actually had games, the saturn and dreamcast have no games

>> No.8859934

I feel like they could have reworked this as a late 3D Sonic game, like you already have the mechanics, just make the stages more linear, throw in some enemies, you could have "race" boss fights kinda like Sonic vs Shadow in Adventure 2 and include an optional racing multiplayer mode as an extra. Could have been a nice hold over till Adventure.

>> No.8859965

>>8859693
Almost everything Sega did after the release of the megadrive was stupid, this was no exception.

>> No.8860239

>>8859910
R was also on PC.
The real Saturn exclusives are stuff like Panzer Dragoon II or Sonic Jam, which shit all over what PC had.

>> No.8860264

>>8859693
>Diddy Kong Racing is released a month before Sonic R is supposed to release
>the higher ups at Sega realize that they need to prevent Sonic R from being released at all costs due to how embarrassing and cringe their game looks now
>dash to recall all copies and bury them
This is how OP thinks the world should work

>> No.8860268

>>8859934
>why didn't they just rework it into an entirely different game and basically make Adventure 0 when it was already being rushed out the door to make the holiday season
You people are fucking stupid

>> No.8860270

>>8859757
They weren’t?

>> No.8860271
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8860271

>>8860239
>The real Saturn exclusives are stuff like
>Sonic Jam, which shit all over what PC had.
(blocks your path)

>> No.8860274

>>8860271
>implying that soulless collection of just 2 games can beat based Sonic Jam which include Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic 3 and S&K, AND Sonic World in full 3D and all the extra modes and options for the main games
ngmi, pcfat

>> No.8860276

>>8859693
I still played the shit out of this game when I got it for Christmas. Unlocked the fifth track and all the racers.

>> No.8860278

>>8860274
>AND Sonic World in full 3D
Oh fucking boy a playable menu but you get to walk around and do nothing therefore it's SOULFUL KINO
PC had Sonic CD which was better than Sonic 1 and 2

>> No.8860282

>>8860278
>Oh fucking boy a playable menu but you get to walk around and do nothing therefore it's SOULFUL KINO
YES.png also confirmed for never playing it, it also has timed missions and controlling Sonic in 3D actually feels good and genuinely more like classic Sonic than the Adventure games.
>PC had Sonic CD which was better than Sonic 1 and 2
Better than 2 yes, 1 no. But anyway, the PC port of Sonic CD is totally fucked with glitches and extra loading screens. Even the Taxman HD remake is bad due to removing the timer reset mechanic. Sonic CD original from 1993 is still the only viable option for that game, a shame most people will never experience it.

>> No.8860473

>>8860282
>also confirmed for never playing it, it also has timed missions
Just because I don't mention the jack shit "content" doesn't mean I'm not aware of it

>> No.8860504

>>8860473
>jack shit "content"
it's playable and much more than a simple menu.
what does your PC "collection" of 2 games have?

>> No.8860516

>>8860504
>it's playable and much more than a simple menu.
You're probably the same type of person who calls mobile games not real games though. Deal with this hypothetical hypocricy

>> No.8860524

>>8860516
>mobilefag getting defensive out of the blue when nobody even mentioned anything about mobile shit
holy fuck you must be falseflagging.
Sonic Jam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all these emulation compilations on 6th gen consoles and beyond>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>windows ports of Sonic 3, S&K and CD

>> No.8860528

>>8860524
I just think it's silly to defend Sonic Jam as "much more than a simple menu"

>> No.8860546

>>8860504
Not him, but you're a retard dude. Sonic Jam was a major disappointment upon release. It was just a compilation and the only interesting thing about it was Sonic World which runs out of things to do after 5 minutes. It was just a prototype for a Saturn game we never got, which makes it disappointing and sad to play, to be honest. It's good for curiosity sake, but also, it leaves you unsatisfied. ALSO the games have more slowdown than the Genesis.

>> No.8860547

>>8860528
It fucking is, it's a fully playable 3D Sonic from 1997. Sonic has different speed momentum and reaching full speed feels more like classic Sonic instead of the Adventure on-rails autism.
It's a lot more than a menu, it's a tech demo. World is not a proper level but it feels like a neat hub world, and there's missions on collecting rings or finding certain stuff in a timed manner that can challenge the player to find most optimal paths and just go fast.
What does your PC collection have to offer compared to this?
Sonic world is always mentioned as a positive trait for Sonic Jam.

>> No.8860550

>>8859757
Fpbp.

>>8859754
I ran to this song yesterday :')

>> No.8860558

>>8860546
>ALSO the games have more slowdown than the Genesis.
>games
It's just Sonic 2 and ACTUALLY it has some new slowdown parts BUT fixes some other parts where there was slowdown in the original, AND the multiplayer mode is now actually playable on Jam while the original Genesis one was riddled with slowdown, the Jam version has no slowdown.
Not to mention Sonic Jam offers spindash in Sonic 1 plus the extra Time Attack and Bonus Stage modes to play.
It also fixes audio issues in Sonic 3.
Jam may not be 100% perfect, but it's still the best Sonic compilation there is due to all the unique features. And while I agree Sonic World is "disappointing" because it's not a full game, that still doesn't mean the thing itself is bad, on the contrary, it makes you feel bad that it isn't a full game BECAUSE it's a neat tech demo.

>> No.8861249

>>8859693
Sega was used to making arcade racers with half an hour worth of content. Great games in their own right but aren’t really meant to last longer than you stand at the arcade machine to play it

I love Sega GT but compared to gran turismo 1 it has practically no content

>> No.8861324

>>8861249
This wasn't made by sega though. A third party developer could at least be more ambitious.

>> No.8861362

>>8860547
Funny you say that, Sonic Adventure began initially as a saturn game. The hub in jam is part of their earlier work on the game for saturn.

>> No.8861387

>>8861324
>A third party developer could at least be more ambitious.
Traveler's Tales were plenty ambitious, they had no fucking time to make the game. The graphics were pretty great for the time and displayed that the team had a lot of skill. They could only do 5 tracks, so they made them the most polished 5 tracks possible.

>> No.8861424

>>8859693
WHAT THE FUCK IS A SONIC?

>> No.8861459

>>8860239
>R was also on PC.
As a port

>> No.8861464

>>8861362
I know, but in reality they play nothing alike. Well, I guess you could say the basic premise of Sonic in 3D is present in both Sonic World and Adventure, but in Sonic World, you can still freely control Sonic while he's at full speed, it's manageable while giving the impression of speed. A lot of the trickiest jumps in Sonic World need you to be at full speed and jump while changing directions mid air, use the momentum. Adventure is just on rails.

>> No.8861480

>>8861387
I don't disagree with the reasoning here, but this is a different reason than the previously stated argument that sega merely had a tradition of short arcade racers.

>> No.8861512

>>8861464
its similar with burning rangers, it pretty much controls like a proto phantasy star online.

>> No.8861521

>>8860239
The REAL saturn games are masterpieces like Virtua Fighter 2, Fighting vipers, Fighters Megamix or Last Bronx. People that talk about rail shooters, shmups or 2D trash as good saturn games make me sick. I'm tired of all the revisionist that bring up these genres as anything else than window dressing to the above mentioned titans of gameplay.

>> No.8861541

I guess this is a just Saturn thread disguised as a Sonic R, and I'mma let you finish, but Sonic R was fun and the first time you got to play as Metal Sonic and a myriad of other characters, and this game came up with Metal Knuckles and Tails Doll who were sick and should've been used in sequels if Sega didn't suck dick

>> No.8861559

>>8861480
Maybe not every anon is the same person, I'm not obliged to defend that stupid take

>> No.8861564

>>8861559
maybe, maybe not, but it's unlikely that more people would copy shitty forced memes like these.

>> No.8861590
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8861590

>>8859693
Ngl, played the shit out of this and Sonic Fighters (in between Sonic CD and Streets of Rage) and had a blast as a kid

>> No.8861612

>>8861559
Then don't respond to a point responding to an earlier point if you're making a separate point.

>> No.8861617

>>8861559
Also I didn't say you were the same anon, I said your point was just a different argument from the one I was responding to.

>> No.8861623
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8861623

>>8861590
This was one of the first games I ever ordered online because it was impossible to find and I wanted to try Sonic CD. It's a small and weird collection but based all the time. I like the achievement system that unlocks the Sonic Screen Saver art and stuff like that. Sonic R is a breezy game to play and 100% so I beat it dozens of times
At one point I decided to "really 100%" Sonic R by getting records in every mode in the game or something, I was surprised by the variety of pointless modes like finding balloons and tagging characters etc. Though I never finished that.
I do wish Gems Collection could have included either SegaSonic or Knuckles Chaotix though

>> No.8861823

I think this game would be better if it wasn’t made. People wonder why Yuji Naka is so dumb and it’s simple, he likes dumb American men. Some of them are big and manly and attracted to Japanese men, but a lot of them are more like Travllers Tales. They’re limited in their game development capability and sexually impotent. I’m a very sorry Naka-san, it was not meant to be.

>> No.8861904

>>8859754
This shit was the start of the end of sonic music

>> No.8861914

>>8859693
>Why the fuck did they think releasing this was a good idea?
In the midst of the chaos that was the mismanadgement of the Saturn, they felt they had to meet the quota of wasting good music on shit games.
>>8861249
>aren’t really meant to last longer than you stand at the arcade machine to play it
In short, buying a game that ends in 30 minutes is a waste of money.

>> No.8863704

>>8859754
DOES IT BRIGHTEN UP YOUR DAY?
DONT YOU THINK THAT SOMETIMES...

YOU JUST NEED TO RUN A WAAY-AAY

>> No.8863739

Honestly why do people hate the music in this game? Sure it's corny, but it's also realy catchy. Hell, I bought the PC version as a kid just so I can play the music in the CD player