The great debate

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Anonymous Tue Apr 26 15:50:50 2022 No.8851825 [Reply] [Original]

The great debate

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 15:51:31 2022 No.8851827 >>8851825 WTF kind of comparison is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 15:53:07 2022 No.8851834 Both are good for different reasons. There's nothing to discuss.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 15:53:22 2022 No.8851836 >>8851827 >>8851825 Best game from 1996?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 15:53:30 2022 No.8851837 >>8851825 I mean uh, I like both? Why would you even compare them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 15:53:58 2022 No.8851838 File: 51 KB, 500x500, T3&K.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ahem. >>8851836 Crash Bandicoot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 15:54:23 2022 No.8851839 >>8851836 >>8851825 Or most influencial game from 1996. In both cases I'd vote RE

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 15:54:36 2022 No.8851841 >>8851825 Colectathons have come and gone RE survival horror still lives on to this day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 15:57:59 2022 No.8851857 >>8851825 Obviously the one that is actually innovative and not just carbon copy of an existing game released 4 years earlier wins.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 16:00:22 2022 No.8851869

>>8851841
Classic RE is dead but we still got Mario Odyssey which plays like 64 and Sunshine. I kind of wish you were right because let me tell you, I fucking hate Odyssey and RE7 and RE8. I'd take another co-op game with good old RE cast like RE5 any day over streamer bait trash. As for Mario, Galaxy 1 and 2 were amazing and then 3D Land and 3D World are everything I wanted a 3D Mario game to be as someone who started with the 2D entries and then they decided to ruin it all and appeal to fucking so*boys who don't even play Nintendo games just hoard their stuff and say that SM64 is the best 3D Mario ever just because everyone else says so

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 16:02:14 2022 No.8851875 >>8851836 tomb raider

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 16:05:30 2022 No.8851892 >>8851836 Diablo

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 16:31:28 2022 No.8851963 >>8851825 Damn it's hard to choose but it has to be super Mario 64 because it's an open word

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 16:38:14 2022 No.8851979 >>8851825 >best movement mechanics of all time vs >worst movement mechanics of all time tough choice

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 16:40:19 2022 No.8851983 >>8851825 >great debate Since when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 16:42:50 2022 No.8851992 >>8851979 >worst movement mechanics of all time I dunno about that anon. Mario 64 had good movement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 16:43:57 2022 No.8851995 >>8851836 super mario rpg

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 17:23:30 2022 No.8852091 File: 6 KB, 250x216, face.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8851825 literally no matter what game you put next to mario he will knock it down like bowling pins

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 17:24:51 2022 No.8852095

>>8851836
>Best game from 1996?

Not a complete list by any means, but there's a list that I made of some of the higher profile games of 1996:

> Duke Nukem 3D (DOS) (Jan' '96)
> Resident Evil (PS1) (March '96)
> Super Mario RPG (SNES) (March '96)
> Metal Slug: Super Vehicle - 001 (Neo-Geo MVS/ AES)
> Quake (DOS) (June '96)
> Super Mario 64 (N64) (June '96 - JP)
> Pilotwings 64 (June '96 - JP)
> NiGHTS into Dreams (Sega Saturn) (July '96 - JP)
> Crash Bandicoot (PS1) (September '96)
> Wipeout 2097/ XL (September '96)
>Tekken 2 (Arcade, PS1) (August, October '96)
> Tomb Raider (Sega Saturn, PS1, DOS) (October '96)
> Command & Conquer: Red Alert (DOS/ Win 95) (Nov '96)
> Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain (PS1) (November '96)
>Dead or Alive (Model 2 arcade) (Nov '96 - JP)
> Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (N64) (Dec '96)
> Mario Kart 64 (N64) (Dec '96)

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 17:25:53 2022 No.8852096 >>8851892 >Diablo I can't figure out if Diablo was a 1996 release or 1997. because I can find release dates saying November 1996 and release dates saying January 1997.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 17:32:20 2022 No.8852113 >>8852095 >no daytona >no vf wtf bro

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 17:37:36 2022 No.8852127

>>8852113
>>no daytona
>>no vf
>wtf bro

Daytona came out in late 1994 and early 1995 for the Sega Saturn. Virtua Fighter 2 was released in 1995 in NA for the Saturn. Though Daytona USA: Championship Circuit Edition was released for the Saturn in 1996. Virtua Fighter 3 was released in 1996 for Model 3.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 17:45:31 2022 No.8852148

>>8851869
Haven't played Village, but RE7 from a design perspective felt very much like a return to the classic RE formula. The level progression & design even parallels the original Resident Evil to a substantial degree.

Mansion = Main House
Residence = Guest House
*Return to original area to take care of the last locked doors*
Testing Area = Caves
Ship/Labs = Lab

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 17:51:00 2022 No.8852169

>>8852095
Really just looking at this list '96 was so huge. I didn't realize it at the time (didn't have a Playstation until a few years after it came out). I'd be really hard pressed to pick a favorite (aka 'objectively best game frfr no cap') out of those.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 17:51:41 2022 No.8852170 >>8851836 Duke Nukem 3D

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 18:04:56 2022 No.8852209 >>8851841 >RE survival horror still lives on to this day. lmao no it doesn't. There are current gen games that play closer to Mario 64 than to the original Resident Evil today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 18:32:22 2022 No.8852291 >>8851869 >Resident Evil 5 over 7 Fuck off contrarian

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 18:42:23 2022 No.8852309

>>8852113
>>no daytona
>>no vf
>wtf bro

Virtua Fighter 1996 releases:
> Virtua Fighter 2 -Mega Drive (JP/ UK... NA didn't get a release until 1997)
> Virtua Fighter (Windows 95 - This is a port of Virtua Fighter Remix for the Saturn)
> Virtua Fighter Animation (GameGear)
> Virtua Fighter Kids (Arcade and Sega Saturn)
> Fighters MegaMix (Sega Saturn)
> Virtua Fighter 3 (Model 3 arcade)

Daytona 1996 releases:
> Daytona USA (windows 95 - literal port of the Saturn game)
> Daytona USA CCE (Sega Saturn - a remake the original Daytoina USA for the Saturn)

Though, Fighters MegaMix was one of the better 3D fighters of 1996. Virtua Fighter 3 was one of the best looking games of 1996, as it was using Sega's new Model 3 board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 18:42:34 2022 No.8852310 >>8852096 Best game of 1996 and 1997 then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 18:48:56 2022 No.8852326 >>8852310 >Best game of 1996 and 1997 then. Wikipedia says January 1997, other sites say 1996. It's possible that the game had a public beta in late 1996? I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:07:54 2022 No.8852369 >>8852095 I can without qualification say Duke Nukem 3D was the best thing on this list. Peak shooter and level design.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:25:07 2022 No.8852425 >>8851836 pokemon green

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:54:30 2022 No.8852479 File: 345 KB, 640x480, oh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was the last GitCY thread deleted, that's like deleting a Game Centre CX thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:46:07 2022 No.8852609 >>8851825 If you don’t think Donkey Kong Country is better than Super Mario 64 and Resident Evil, you are stupid! I know, it’s insulting, but it’s also the truth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 21:34:37 2022 No.8852764 >>8851825 Cringe baby shiet or metal ass zombie game hmm

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 21:50:17 2022 No.8852797

>>8852326
>Wikipedia says January 1997, other sites say 1996. It's possible that the game had a public beta in late 1996? I don't know.

Wikipedia: NA: January 3, 1997
Metacritic: December 31, 1996
Mobygames: Dec 31, 1996

Maybe January 3rd was the official retail street date? But maybe people had the game before 1997?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 02:41:28 2022 No.8853370 >>8852095 > Duke Nukem 3D (DOS) (Jan' '96) That's the shareware release. I hate how everyone uses shareware release dates like it's the full game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 02:49:38 2022 No.8853385 >>8852309 > Virtua Fighter 2 -Mega Drive This was the version I played as a kid

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 02:54:24 2022 No.8853398 >>8852170 >>8852425 /thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 03:08:34 2022 No.8853434 >>8851825 Super Mario 64 and it's not even close.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 03:13:06 2022 No.8853442 >>8851825 Two words: Jill sandwich. Nuff said

Anonymous Wed Apr 27 03:29:10 2022 No.8853487

>>8852095
>Quake
Picking this purely for the amount of user content being generated even today. Though, I really like Metal Slug, Mario 64 and RE for goofy and spooky times too. Also, that's the Shareware Duke, not full release, so you're missing practically all the cool shit in the full release. Like Blood's Shareware where you don't get to play around with the Voodoo Doll, Tesla Cannon, and all the other awesome weapons you get later on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 03:33:13 2022 No.8853495 >>8852095 >NiGHTS into Dreams Change it for Soul Edge on the PS1 and then we can talk.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 04:11:18 2022 No.8853568 >>8852095 >> Resident Evil (PS1) (March '96) >> Super Mario 64 (N64) (June '96 - JP) >> NiGHTS into Dreams (Sega Saturn) (July '96 - JP) >> Crash Bandicoot (PS1) (September '96) Man 1996 was a good fucking year

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 04:18:40 2022 No.8853578 File: 37 KB, 600x687, d31.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8851836 Not just the best game from 1996, but the best game from 1996 OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 04:19:20 2022 No.8853580 >>8853578 That you have to play before you die

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 04:24:28 2022 No.8853591 >>8852764 Not many people fall for the "mature games for mature gamers such as myself" thing anymore m8, try a different angle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 04:26:22 2022 No.8853594 >>8851825 DualShock version is better

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 04:26:38 2022 No.8853595 >>8851825 As game of the year? It's hard to say honestly, both were great soul games, and heavily influenced the industry in the short term, and then stopped influencing in the long term.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 04:27:40 2022 No.8853596 >>8851841 >still lives on to this day lemme guess, you're the kind of retard who says outlast is a survival horror game

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 05:07:55 2022 No.8853659 >>8853596 Not him, and I don't know Outlast, but first person survival horror existed before third person ones, co-existed during the AITD/RE clone era, and outlived them. It would be like saying Mario 64 isn't a platformer because it's 3D and not 2D.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 05:24:54 2022 No.8853693 File: 160 KB, 511x494, onehand.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The number of posters not getting this thread is making me sad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 05:31:36 2022 No.8853710 >>8853693 You have not communicated what's needed for others to get it and you have autism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 05:32:48 2022 No.8853713 >>8851825 They're both set in a big house made of blood?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 05:36:36 2022 No.8853719 File: 170 KB, 256x327, Abuse_Coverart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Posting the actual best game of 96

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 05:39:35 2022 No.8853727 >>8853710 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8ht4AZ7sg It's Flights of Fantasy/Gaming in the Clinton Years, a cable access show from the 90s that covered games and movies hosted by George Wood.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 05:39:47 2022 No.8853728 File: 48 KB, 799x521, mario-cant-defeat-the-mad-piano-1647539710751.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] To be fair this shit was scarier than anything in RE

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 05:40:26 2022 No.8853732 >>8853728 back to faggit

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 05:49:36 2022 No.8853749 >>8853727 >the game is virtually impossible without the hint book Wat? I thought it was a zoomer thing

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 06:44:21 2022 No.8853836 >>8853693 Holy fuck finally somebody in this thread who isn't 12

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 07:34:27 2022 No.8853913 >>8853836 If you're using internet forums, off the clock, as an adult, you're a loser.

Anonymous Wed Apr 27 07:41:55 2022 No.8853927

>>8853727
>We still have to wait for the 64DD, as it's called

Bet he's still waiting.

>>8853693
>>8853710
Sorry not everyone is american. Considering the thread about this yesterday got deleted for no apparent reason I would say even the mods don't know.

Anonymous Wed Apr 27 09:03:38 2022 No.8854046

>>8853836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVKsr4GMdY
Did /vr/ forget George, it used to love him.
>>8853927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3JUrhh9VC8
It's not a country thing, unless you lived in the Mid-Atlantic US and watched cable access shows nobody saw it, but it was mentioned in a few magazines and some old gaming sites covering his comments about Lara Croft and his brilliant way to make her story a much more serious affair.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 09:15:50 2022 No.8854067 But they're nothing alike?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 09:16:20 2022 No.8854068 >>8853727 I'm glad never watched that kind of shit when I was alive and gaming in the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 09:23:11 2022 No.8854076 >>8851836 >>8851838 Castlevania 64

Anonymous Wed Apr 27 13:52:57 2022 No.8854702

>>8853659
resident evil coined the term "survival horror"
does the game play like resident evil?
if it doesn't, then it's not fucking survival horror, it's as simple as that

if a platformer has 2d gameplay, then it's not a fucking 3d platformer, it's a 2d platformer, just like if a horror game doesn't have mechanics similar to the classic survival horror games it's not a fucking survival horror game

why is this so hard to understand?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 14:01:23 2022 No.8854728 >>8854702 By that logic the only game in 2010s that is remotely close to being 'real survival horror' is Fatal Frame 5

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 14:52:12 2022 No.8854919 >>8852095 > Quake (DOS) (June '96) > Tomb Raider (Sega Saturn, PS1, DOS) (October '96) These two really changed everything.

Anonymous Wed Apr 27 14:59:47 2022 No.8854946

>>8853596
>limited supplies
>limited inventory space
>have to think about efficiency in navigating encounters
RE7 had some jumpscare shit in it that drug it down but if you can't parse that it was an attempt at returning to survival horror you don't really get what those original games were besides tank controls and zombies

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 15:13:05 2022 No.8854993 >>8854702 the micro is different but the macro of re7 is similar. You're in a labyrinth dotted with resource sponges and you need to figure out an efficient path through all the inventory key rooms. games like outlast don't do that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 21:56:06 2022 No.8856017 >>8853693 They'd have to skip to the end to get this thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 21:58:35 2022 No.8856024 >>8851825 I was 12 in 1996 and Resident Evil was the game that made me go with PlayStation instead of waiting for the N64 as a burgeoning horror fan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 22:01:40 2022 No.8856032 File: 319 KB, 800x800, 458.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8853591 >N-not m-any p-eople f-f-f-f-all for the m-m-AAAAACK!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 22:05:23 2022 No.8856041 >>8856032 >>>/trash/

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 22:21:21 2022 No.8856082 >>8851825 >one has gameplay, you can do backflips, long jumps, side jumps with pinpoint precision >the other can barely be controlled, in fact the entire premise is that moving and aiming is super difficult so the zombies get you

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 08:12:24 2022 No.8857204 >>8851825 Mario should have agun

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 08:44:55 2022 No.8857251 >>8857204 Chris should wahoo jump on zombos to kill em

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 08:47:06 2022 No.8857257 >>8857251 I'd actually play that instead of playing as a dumb piece of tofu

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 08:50:49 2022 No.8857264 >>8851827 Protagonists of both games are dealing with exploration of some huge building where crazy shit is happening. Mario 64 even has a ghost mansion within castle, so obviously it's better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 08:51:11 2022 No.8857268 Mario 64 has it's creepy moments but overall Re1 is a better horror game

Anonymous Thu Apr 28 08:57:34 2022 No.8857281
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>>8851825
Super Mario 64 was a technical marvel that had my jaw on the floor like no other game ever did again.
I was aghast at how could it even be possible to control a character in a 3D space.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 09:21:45 2022 No.8857320 >>8853594 non dualshock directors cut is the best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 09:27:13 2022 No.8857334 >>8857320 the music is more spoopy in dualshock version

Anonymous Thu Apr 28 09:46:59 2022 No.8857389

>Super Mario 64
>Resident Evil
>Tomb Raider
>Quake
>Duke Nukem 3D
>Crash Bandicoot
>Command & Conquer Red Alert
>Super Mario RPG
>Die Hard Trilogy
>Pokemon Red/Blue
>Diablo
>Elder Scrolls 2 Daggerfall
>Twisted Metal 2
>Mario Kart 64
>The Neverhood

Really hard to pick just one for such a golden year. 1996 is one of the rare years that you fill a whole list of "best games ever" with stuff just from that year.

Anonymous Thu Apr 28 09:48:23 2022 No.8857394

>>8851979
Resident Evil wasn't about feeling you're moving freely. Its about giving you a sense of dread and feeling constricted. Tank controls do this.

>>8851825
Why compare a platformer to a horror game? At least compare two platformers or two horror games

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 21:41:26 2022 No.8859314 >>8851825 the one thing you have to give the n64 is its realization of 3d in the 5th gen, couldn't be any more stark.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 22:06:04 2022 No.8859370 >>8854046 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3JUrhh9VC8 [Embed] Based Gaming in the Clinton years...

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 02:22:55 2022 No.8859785
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I have to give it to Super Mario 64 but Resident Evil was so good that it became my favourite series

>>8851827

- two of the top three games of all time
- released in the same year
- pioneered 3D gaming

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 11:57:23 2022 No.8860849

>>8852096
>>8852310
>>8852326
>>8852797
https://web.archive.org/web/19970606035803/http://www.next-generation.com/news/121796d.chtml
>A spokesperson for Blizzard told Next Generation Online that just over 500,000 units will be shipping over the course of the first few days of release within the next week or so. Boxes should start appearing on store shelves as early as this weekend, with the majority hitting in time for Christmas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 12:07:49 2022 No.8860873 File: 33 KB, 419x362, apple orange.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8851825 >>8851827 Greater debate

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 12:17:29 2022 No.8860894 >>8854946 >RE7 had some jumpscare shit in it that drug it down an enemy appearing unexpectedly is not a jumpscare.

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