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8835936 No.8835936 [Reply] [Original]

show me any playstation 2 game that looks as this good

>> No.8835949 [DELETED] 

>>8835936
dude that looks like mdickie's shit
you gotta be havin a gaff
right?

>> No.8835952

Have you seen any sailors?

>> No.8835963

I was gonna post res evil 4 on ps2 but then i realized it's only the gamecube version that looks pimp. Ps2 version looks like shit.

I honestly can't find a sprawling ps2 game that looks better than bad dub simulator on the dreamcast.

>> No.8835973

>>8835936
>Final Fantasy X
>Final Fantasy X-2
>Final Fantasy XII
>Silent Hill 2
>Silent Hill 3
>Silent Hill 4: The Room
>Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
>Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

>> No.8835985

>>8835973
>Final Fantasy XII

okay ill give you that, everything else looks like is covered in mud

>> No.8835987
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>> No.8836007

God of War

>> No.8836019
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ENTER

>> No.8836070

>>8835973
>>8836019
I was gonna say Silent Hill 2/3 and MGS.

>> No.8836081

>>8835936
Every single one of them. Dreamkek was a failure of a console.

>> No.8836184

>>8835936
Hard mode. Show any ps2 game that looks and plays as good as Shenmue.

>> No.8836460
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not possible

>> No.8836510

>>8836460
Yeah that's with vga out which the dreamcast natively supports. The game looks CRISPY.

No ps2 game looks like that, especially none that are open world. Dreamcast had way better texture filtering than the ps2.

>> No.8836520

>>8835936
those graphics are all over the place. looks good overall but it's such a janky mix of different qualities.

>> No.8836775
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>>8836510
The Dreamcast had hardware AA (meaning antialiasing was "free" from a performance standpoint) and had twice the VRAM of the PS2 (8MB vs 4MB, meaning you could have more textures of a higher quality in each scene).

The PS2 had a beefier CPU at a 50% higher clockspeed and had an insane GPU fillrate, so it was able to do wild shit like run Gran Turismo 4 at 1080i (its upscaled, but its still wild).

>> No.8836782

>ignoring constant loading screens

>> No.8836784

Haunting Ground

>> No.8836790

>>8836782
The PS2 wasn't much better when it came to loading screens.

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>>8835936

>> No.8836821

Valkyrie Profile 2

>> No.8836858

>>8836081
ps2 was way worse

>> No.8836931
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8836931

God of War 2

>> No.8837025

>>8835936
>2022
>still coping about the PS2
holy shit nigger move on with your life, xbox mogged every other console of its gen and had a lot of sega titles including shenmue2 so it makes your playground fight point moot anyway.

>> No.8837036

>>8835936
I tried but I can’t do it, well played OP

>> No.8837041

>>8837025
Xbox had nogaems.

>>8836931
Nice. I oughta replay God of War 1 & 2 on PS3

>> No.8837063

>>8836019
>Motion blur out the ass
>20fps
>Piss filter

>> No.8837097

>>8836184
Literally Yakuza

>> No.8837102

>>8835936
Mate cmon now
It doesn’t even come close to the graphics in kingdom hearts

>> No.8837207
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>> No.8837216

>>8837209
This was Xenosaga III, right?

>> No.8837258

>>8835936
It's not 2001 dude. Literally every 2002 or later 1st party or reputable 3rd party game that wasn't a low budget or 'smaller' title.

>> No.8837262

>>8837207
>60fps
>HD
Lil cheaty but yeah, PS2 game looks better and couldn't be done on DC.

>> No.8837281

>>8835936
>that mad low texture coat
>that tree
Anything that wasn't a face designed for cutscenes wasn't all that impressive, man. Game also had pop-in and framerate issues out the ass.

>> No.8837284

>>8837216
Yup, and it's actually a pretty fun game. Like so many others though, if you want to play on actual hardware, you're going to need a modded ps2 or to bite the bullet because it's like $150.
Also, I'll second or third FFXII. To me it's the best looking game in PS2's library.

>> No.8837301

>>8837284
You don’t need to mod a ps2, just use a HDD

>> No.8837302

>>8837284
Why WOULDN'T you mod the PS2 if you had any brains or sanity?
>I don't wanna pirate, I wanna be a cool boomer like granite countertop guy and show off for other smelly NEETs

>> No.8837308

>>8837301
>>8837302
Fair fair...you guys are right. My point was obviously that poorfags will either pirate or be filtered by the game Haunting Ground or Rule of Rose style.

>> No.8837341

>>8837262
last time i checked my ps2 can't do 60fps and hd faggot

>> No.8837346

>>8837281
>framerate issues
>dreamcast
go back

>> No.8837360

>>8837341
No, but the DC literally can't do soft shadows like Silent Hill 2's, or maintain its general graphical fidelity and performance at native resolution either. Sorry! Sorry.

>> No.8837362

>>8837346
Why? What was incorrect about what I said? Use your words, moron.

>> No.8837385

>>8837360
but dc looks better than the shitty low res foggy 2fps running ps2

>> No.8837386

>>8837362
shenmue and 99% of dreamcast games don't have framerate issues

>> No.8837390

>>8837386
As soon as it crowds a little bit it drops. I had the game as a kid. Fuck off. Fucking smelly fanboy fuck.

>> No.8837395

I hate people who can't appraise objectively. Interlacing a bit lower than 480 resolution aside, the PS2 was at least twice as powerful as far as effects and polygon density goes.

>> No.8837415

>>8836792
Ah, a dark cruddy mess.

>>8836019
Upscaled.

>>8837207
Upscaled + frame rate

>>8837209
Nice.

>>8837360
>or maintain its general graphical fidelity and performance at native resolution either
Neither can the fucking ps2 kek.

>> No.8837420

>>8837395
Not just density, but complexity too
I do love the way Dreamcast looks though, it’s simplicity is what appeals to me

>> No.8837467

>>8837390
>I had the game as a kid.
fuck off nostalgiafag, I finished it a year ago and it was fine

>> No.8837474
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love the way ps2 games look

>> No.8837585

>>8835936
Show me on the doll where Ken Kutaragi touched you.

>> No.8837875
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>>8835936
No, esl graphicsfag, show me any Dreamcast game that is as fun to play as this.

>> No.8837892

>>8835936
That doesn't look good.

>> No.8838507

>>8837892
Congrats, you've caught on to OP's game. See >>8836460 or >>8836775 for better shots.

>> No.8838914

>>8837097
I could do without its "fixed" camera perspective. Would had probably been too heavy though.

>> No.8838921

>>8837025
>xbox mogged every other console of its gen
go back

>> No.8838928
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>>8837875
?

>> No.8838963

>>8838928
As good as THPS2 is, it isn't AS fun as THPS3 so you're wrong.

>> No.8838973

>>8836775
god this game looks comfy. i will have to drop acid this summer and finally play it

>> No.8838978

>>8837025
this board doesn't believe in racism

>> No.8838981

>>8836775
Yakuza on PS2 is a busier game and it also looks better than this. Yakuza 2 looks even better. DC's VGA image cleans quite better than PS2's component, but that's about it. You don't even need to bring big boys like GoW, MGS3 or SoTC to make DC eat dust. Hell, look at fucking Silent Hill 3 character models, and that game is from 2003.

>> No.8838985

>>8837474
when used right it's vector abilities provide incredible results

>> No.8838987
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>>8835936
GUNGRAVE

>> No.8838997

>>8838973
>god this game looks comfy
It is super comfy.

>> No.8838998

>>8837386
Shenmue 2 chugs early on when you go near that fountain but dc framerate wasn't really an issue like Starfox or most of n64s library.

>> No.8839012

>>8835985
Mgs2 does not.

>> No.8839024

>>8837341
ps2 can do HD and 60fps. Gran Turismo 4 does both as well as the japanese version of Valkyrie Profile 2.

>> No.8839240
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>> No.8839265

>>8838921
Nah I'll stay and you'll cope. XBOX wins in raw power unless you're delusional.

>> No.8839340

>>8839265
Then why are there dc ports on xbox that look and run worse?

>> No.8839425

>>8839340
Because competent video game developers with enough time & budget are non-existent?

>> No.8839506

>>8835949
Mdickie is sovl incarnate

>> No.8839530

>>8839340
>why do games made in one engine not work well on another system
Ok?

>> No.8839538

>>8839530
>guys trust me it really is more powerful and way better you just can't see it in any game because..... it just is ok!!!!

>> No.8839551

>>8835936
It wouldn't matter anyway. The ps2 was the dumbest normie hype for any console.

>> No.8839558

>>8839538
People explained in this very thread, ps2 has half the texture ram but larger bandwidth.

>> No.8839570

Also Dreamcast had experimental hw features like auto z-sort.

>> No.8839575

>>8838981
>MGS3 or SoTC
It's a joke right? The monochrome blurgames?

>> No.8839643
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>>8839240
Nah. Even in cutscenes Yakuza doesn't look as good as Shenmue. Here's what actual Yakuza gameplay looked like on PS2.

>> No.8839648

>>8835987
virtua fighter IV evo looks better then that and....
>was released before tekken 5
>has superior graphics and BGM
>was released on a CD.
>originally proving sega naomi (and thus dreamcast) are superior to ps2.
besides dreamcast was better and had more fun games compared to the other (what is the deal with visual novels and PS2,i wouldn't mind if they didn't got released with heavy censorship)

>> No.8839650
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>>8838981
Yakuza was busier because it looked much much worse than this.

>> No.8839660

PS2 had better graphics, but Dreamcast had better aesthetics.

>> No.8839661

>>8839648
VF4 was actually naomi 2 with a souped processor.

>> No.8839672

>>8838963
THPS2 is to THPS3 as THPS3 is to THPS4

>> No.8839673

>>8836775
>the ps2 CPU had a higher clock speed
are you even talking about the same console
>dreamcast CPU 200 Mhz
>ps2 CPU 233 mhz
is like thinking the ps2 had a better GPU when in reality was inferior (compare both dead or alive 2 against dreamcast version and you are in for a ride)
>ps2 GPU (emotion engine) 8 mb ram shared with SPU
>Dreamcast GPU 16 MB ram,16 MB ram SPU (not shared)
problem as always the more powerful console is harder to program (mention that american dreamcast was a shittier version with custom hardware) in reality comparing both ps2 and dreamcast japan version the japan dreamcast is superior by a wider frame
>japan dreamcast CPU 266 Mhz.
>japan dreamcast V2 GPU 32 MB ram,16 MB ram SPU (not shared)

>> No.8839703
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I like Sega, the DC didn't deserve its fate, in fact I'm playing through Skies of Arcadia on my DC currently. But Sega widows are pathetic, the DC has nothing on the PS2 in anyway whatsoever. The PS2 is the greatest console of all time for a reason, get over it you retarded niggers.

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>>8839703

>> No.8839721

>>8839714
no, you.

>> No.8839980

>>8839673
Huh. Wired that the Japanese DC was different.

Different times in genet I guess.

>> No.8839984

>>8839980
It isn't.

>> No.8840041

>>8839703
please go back

>> No.8840064

>>8835985
valkyrie profile 2 looks like a early PS3 game running on a ps2

>> No.8840856

>>8839984
Huh. Weird that anon would lie about something silly.

>> No.8840860

>people posting 15K upscaled pcsx2 emulation screenshots

Fuck off retards. The PS2 looks like absolute SHIT on a CRT on real hardware. Fucking motion blur out the ASSSSSSS. And people bitched about N64 being blurry while the PS2 you literally can't move the camera or you get cataracts vision ™

>> No.8840862

>>8840041
I've been here since /vr/'s inception, zoomie.

>> No.8840924

>>8837341
How come mine can, then ?

>> No.8840928

>>8839643
Use an even worse capture card next time lmfao

>> No.8840940

>>8840924
emulators/mods=/=realhardware

>> No.8840945

>>8840862
whatever you say zoomy

>> No.8840948

>>8840860
this, fuck emufags they have no right to talk about consoles

>> No.8840971
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faggots like all of you mouth breathing, circumcised golems arguing about the graphical capabilities of the PS2 vs the Dreamcast, instead of just appreciating both of them.

>> No.8841027

>>8839538
not them but you are a literal fucking mouthbreather, nearly every single third party title is superior on xbox, i'm telling you this as someone who owns dreamcast, ps2 and xbox, there's literally no comparison, xbox looks better, runs better, loads faster and so on.

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>>8835936

>> No.8841052

>>8840971
how can you appreciate a low res blurred mess?

>> No.8841054

>>8841027
but dc on vga looks better

>> No.8841206

>>8839265
no games

>> No.8841381

>>8835936

>800 billion yen budget
>.0001% went on the English VA

Why bother

>> No.8841701

>>8839672
you think THPS2 is better than THPS 3? Cause 3 is def better than 4.

>> No.8841708

>>8841381
it's funny

>> No.8843508

>>8839673
The PS2's CPU is clocked at 294MHz you stupid retard. And the DC's GPU didn't have 16MB of memory, it only had 8. The Japanese and NTSC DCs had the exact same hardware.

Where the hell do you come up with this stuff?

>> No.8843521

>>8839673
>Source: Trust me bro

>> No.8843529
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>>8835936
Umm okay

>> No.8843621

Segacucks are mentally ill

>> No.8843683

>>8841381
English VA is kino. House of the Dead has the very best in English voice acting but Shenmue is still right up there. Fun fact, Nights has some of the same voice actors from Shenmue which nobody ever complains about.

>> No.8843960

>>8840928
If you're taking shots from uprezzed emulation then you're being disingenuous.
Also talking like a fucking idiot teenager just makes you look like a moron.

>> No.8843961

>>8843621
>/v/ speak

>> No.8843974

>>8843621
back to faggit

>> No.8844068

>>8836460
>>8836775
This looks sharp but its not the native vga resolution

>> No.8844142

>>8840940
My ps2 has no hardware mods what so ever, maybe you should check a wikipedia page or two, or actually play on the fucking console.

>> No.8844157

>>8843960
I never said emulation, i said your capture card is so dogshit it's impossible to see anything. And i talk however i feel like it, if it pisses you off that much i suggest you take the non binary route and hang yourself.

>> No.8844178

>>8844142
kek i won one you massive retard and the ps2 has bad res a shity filters you massive zoomer stop larping

>> No.8844181

>>8844178
>won
own

>> No.8844203

>>8844157
I bet you exclusively wear T-shirts with skulls on them and drive one of those mini-moto things around with a deadly serious look on your face because you're take no prisoners go-getter who gets up in everyone's faces taking them to the edge!

>> No.8844221

>>8844178
You def never played it and never used OPL or GSM, otherwise your braindead ass would know about the 1080i upscale mode. And how most games run at 60/50fps depending on region

>inb4 muh source
Owner of a SCPH-300004, and i actually play games.
>>8844203
I don't have money for a mini-moto, my capture card only cost me 15 bucks on amazon, yet it's a 10x better image quality than wherever you found that screenshot from.

>> No.8844224

>>8844203
not him but whats a mini moto?

>> No.8844227

>>8844221
aren't those considered mods you massive retard?

>> No.8844231

>>8844221
go plug a normal ps2 on a crt you nigger

>> No.8844236
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>>8844224
One of those tiny motorbikes. There used to be this junkie who'd ride about on his around my area growing up with a mean look on his face.
Any time I come across someone trying to act hard in a ridiculous way my mind always goes back to him trying to look like the big man on his tiny little bike.

>> No.8844242

>>8844236
kek I never seen those

>> No.8844262

>>8844221
Plenty of money for a cavalcade of fucking skull t-shirts though don't you?!

>> No.8844270

>>8844242
They'll never not make me laugh.
Spoilers for not retro but I absolutley ended myself when playing through Elden Ring and getting to a big scary super hyped boss only to find he had a tiny little mini moto horse he rides around

>> No.8844274
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>>8844270
forgot pic

>> No.8844332

>>8844270
>>8844274
they do look cringe af

>> No.8844339

>>8844332
its like those shitty escooters or monowheels faggots, fucking hipsters cringe

>> No.8844441

Dreamcast has sharper visuals but worse in most things compared to PS2. Shenmue and Yakuza don't have comparable budgets and Dev times. It's like comparing Sega GT to Gran Turismo 3 - not fair.
I think if Dreamcast had continued support we'd see games more like Metropolis Street Racer and it'd be trading blows with PS2.
HOWEVER Xbox mogs both of them,
and Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and Burnout 3 couldn't be possible on the Dreamcast.

>> No.8844472

>>8843529
what is this?

>> No.8844473

>>8844472
Valkyrie Profile 2

>> No.8844479

>>8844473
ah right, thanks

>> No.8844649

>>8844231
You mean the standard CRT i had which supported RGB scart and looked even sharper than my 1080i setup ?
>>8844227
>what are component cables / 5$ YPbPr 2 HDMI adapters
Yes, official hardware and free software is a mod now.

Why are so many faggots on this board today ? It used to be perfectly fine 2 days ago.

>> No.8844758

>>8844649
>hdmi
so ur not using official stuff. the dreamcast can also look great via hdmi you retard, and i would like to see how ur ps2 looks on ur crt bc mine looks like shit, with bad res and fog

>> No.8844762

>>8844649
>sharper than my 1080i setup
how I know ur a zoomer

>> No.8844839

I can't get any nostalgia from Dreamcast because every game I played at the time was multiplayer with my friends, most of whom are dead. Am I gonna play Soul Calibur alone with vodka, fentanyl, and a revolver on the table

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>>8844758
>>8844762
The two same salty retards who hate being wrong on the internet.

Anyway, i got other shit to do.

>> No.8844946

>>8837209
wow the view at 0:06
It's a shame most jrpg's have trash padded combat. I would pay big bugs for trimmed experiences that don't waste my time.

>> No.8844979

>>8844917
samefag, and im not wrong, if you plug the ps2 on a crt its gona look shit, everybody knows the ps2 has bad res and is a blurry mess, unlile the dc, stop being in denial you sonyfanboy

>> No.8845659

>>8839673
wtf is this post
Wrong clockspeed numbers and made-up versioning differences have already been corrected, but the PS2 had 2 parallel VPUs as its "GPU", which was hard for people making direct ports to program an equal codebase for. PS2 ports of things generally looked worst because it was faster to develop something to single-thread and work like normal hardware of the time, and would have to be in that state for the other versions of games anyway. Meaning if you wanted to build code with 1:1 equivalence from one system to another, you're cutting near half the graphical capability of the PS2.

That's why its exclusives got to look amazing while its multiplats embarrassed it.

>> No.8846931 [DELETED] 

>>8844979
>if you plug the ps2 into a shitty tv it's gonna look like shit
no shit

>> No.8847023

>>8836184
Harder mode show me any game without shenmue in the title where I can pick up and examine every individual fruit placed in the world, and there’s a wide variety of each type of fruit there’s like 30 different apples in shenmue 2 I’m not kidding that game is fucking insane how did they fit it all on a disc

>> No.8847041

>>8846931
thats why dreamcast is better

>> No.8847059
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>>8835936
Why are Sega apologists consistently the most delusional bunch?

The PS2 may have been deeply flawed, but it was still superior.

>> No.8847072

>>8844979
The PS2 deliberately chose not to include an analog softening filter on the output stage because Sony was designing for the coming "HiVision" era (that never happened.) This meant super sharp visuals that for the time gamers weren't expecting and it resulted in a massive over correction where devs would blur the shit out of the graphics in digital space so that reviewers wouldn't shit on them for "jaggies." However when the HD era started to hit and you could buy digital CRTs, Sony's reasoning suddenly made 110% sense as every other console now looked like a blurry mess and the PS2's "jaggies" in fact looked pin sharp and awesome. But that's always the way. Luddites will prevent improvements because they baby duck syndromed what they were using the year before as if it was the superior choice forever.

>> No.8847127

>>8847059
>Sega fans delusional
Our games still stand the test of time. Nintendo never even made a racing game and Sony have never even come close to topping Daytona USA. All those other companies have ever offered is bloat. Sega have better fighting games, platformers, beat em ups, rail shooters, adventure games, dungeon crawlers, puzzle, insert whatever genre you like. I thank God Sega didn't bother with shitty first person shooters and instead gave us God tier light gun games like House of the dead.

>> No.8847169

>>8847072
doesn't change the fact that a dreamcast on vga looks and runs better than a ps2 on crt

>> No.8847173

>>8847127
this

>> No.8847189

>>8844758
you probably play on composite,my PS2 games looks great using component on my CRT.

>> No.8847236

>>8847189
show

>> No.8847364
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>>8847127
>Diverts the discussion away from game looks
Case in point, but I will bite anyway.

GT4 is better than Sega GT 2002, and I say this as an Xbox fanboy whose console included the latter game. I can't really comment on Daytona, except that I'd automatically relegate it to the dustbin for being an arcade racer.

>> No.8847367

>>8840064
Bullshit, VP2 isn't washed out in bloom with constant frame drops and screen tearing. It looks far better than most PS3 games

>> No.8847376

>>8847364
>GT4 is better than Sega GT 2002
>Daytona, except that I'd automatically relegate it to the dustbin for being an arcade racer.
opinion discarded

>> No.8847389

>>8847376
Good. Go write an article on Segaretro about it.

>> No.8847902

>>8847364
>Sega GT 2002
I played that game two days ago and I really enjoyed

>> No.8847917

>>8847389
go play good racing games

>> No.8847934

>>8835936
>Beatdown: Fist of Vengeance
https://youtu.be/I0Rh56YIrOo?t=700
>Yakuza 1 & 2
https://youtu.be/68EslAdKyHg?t=2835
>Final Fight: Streetwise
https://youtu.be/ZI3y-ci9RSU?t=266

Any last words?

>> No.8847947

>>8847934
>Any last words?
emulation doesn't count

>> No.8847951

>>8847934
also they still look like shit, blur and I doubt the first one is runing at 60fps

>> No.8847989

>>8847917
My PS2 is dead, so I can't.

>> No.8847990

>>8835936
Shenmue looks like shit. PS2's launch titles look better than this.

>> No.8848017

>>8847989
buy a dc

>> No.8848019

>>8836019
Why did the textures look like shit?

>> No.8848025 [DELETED] 

>>8839660
Yep. Bright and colorful consolized arcade system vs. a foggy DVD player.

>> No.8848026 [DELETED] 

>>8848025
cope&seethe segoy

>> No.8848032 [DELETED] 

>>8848025
>>8848026
Faggots like the two of you circumcised, soulless little americans bickering over which consumer electronic was superior, because your lives are entirely bereft of meaning, have ruined this board.

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>>8848032
Not circumcised or american, I'm also here longer than you.

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>>8848026
>cope&seethe segoy
how can segafans seeth if they don't have blurr, shity fps and bad res? I don't understand

>> No.8848069 [DELETED] 

>>8848037
cringe pic

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>>8848069
c0pe&S33the

>> No.8848093

>>8848017
I already have a much better Dreamcast 2 (Xbox).

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>>8848072

>> No.8848205

>>8848093
but ull miss some dc games

>> No.8848342

>>8847364
>I can't comment on Daytona
Zoomer detected
>dustbin for being an arcade racer
What's wrong, not enough bloat for ya?

>> No.8848492

How come dreamcast games looks crystal clear with vivid colours but ps2 has this weird blurry filter over everything and colours never quite seem to pop out?

>> No.8848503

>>8848492
>op bumping his own shit to keep coping over the greatest console of all time
you hate to see it.

>> No.8848509

>>8848503
Im not even hating on the ps2 I just want an answer to this question

>> No.8848510

>>8848492
because sega makes good stuff
and sonyos are seething because an 98 console looks better then theyr overpriced dvd player

>> No.8848519

>>8848510
>then
than

>> No.8848614

>>8847127
see>>8847072

>> No.8848912

>>8848064
Look at that and GT3 and tell me which actually looks better.
>buh muh VGA!
I could play PC games at 1024x768 through VGA. Dreamcast automatically loses. Hell, Xbox later plays some games at 720p.

>> No.8848928

>>8848492
Because Sony fucked up while making the PS2 and it can't drive proper EDTV resolutions. GT4 is a masterpiece of development and even they had to reduce the color depth to get 480p. SEGA had to learn after the Saturn and Sony didn't.

>> No.8849651
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8849651

>>8848026
>>8848032
My Dreamcast looks better through S-video than my PS2 does through component on the same CRT. VGA would be no contest.
It's not about polygon count, it's about aesthetics. Dreamcast games just look better. Don't care about your poorfag console wars shit since I have owned both for nearly 20 years.

>> No.8849657
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>>8849651
Compared to PS2's best-looking games which are always dark and gloomy with muted colors, more like a cinematic film than a video game.

>> No.8850264

>>8848912
kek nice copium, I actually own gt3 and it looks like shit. and why are you talking about pc? is the copium too hard?

>> No.8850267

>>8848912
>buh muh VGA!
its not only the vga, its the bad res, filters and blur

>> No.8850275

this is the same as n64 vs saturn and ps1, even tho the n64 is supposed to be more powerfull, it looks like shit because of the low res, fps drops every 2 seconds, fog, shit filter

>> No.8850538

>>8848342
>not enough bloat for ya?
Look who's talking. There's nothing more bloated than an arcade racer blasting obnoxious UI at you every second.

My point stands strong.
>>8847059

>> No.8850613

>>8847059
I don't call a console with such a bad resolution and blurr a good console, stay mad

>> No.8850730

>>8850264
>gt3 looks like shit
Delusional
>>8850267
It's also higher polygon output and lighting and physics computation.

Idk why the seething segatard started this thread when segaretro laid everything out. Though he probably doesn't even know I posted this >>8848928 cause he's just throwing himself at posts that dispel his delusion like an attack chiauhua.

https://segaretro.org/Sega_Dreamcast/Hardware_comparison#PlayStation_2

>> No.8850750

>>8850730
theres a big diference between numbers and real life, if you compare a dc runing on vga and a ps2 on crt , the ps2 will look like shit and the dc will look amazing, because the dc doesnt have bad resolution and filters and blur and etc., same has n64 vs ps1 and saturn

>> No.8850752

>>8850750
>has
as

>> No.8850860

>>8841701
this

3>2>1>4

1 has no manuals, and levels are mixed bag due to "muh realism" and downhill stages

2 has manuals and great stages, tighter controls

3 has reverts and best stages(this is not debatable), and tightest controls

4 added wall run but ruined the formula by making you have to talk to quest givers in order to do any challenges. Where u previously could do all the challenges in a single run, or at least do all 3 hi-score challenges in a run. But now you have to talk to an NPC 3 times in order to do all hi-score challenges. And sometimes the fucker moves to another part of the map.

THUG fixes the problems of 4 by allowing you to get off your fuckin skateboard. And by making the challenges more varied and some would say more "gimmicky" but still better than the crap missions from 4.

>> No.8851410

>>8836460
Fucking Soul man

>> No.8851421

>>8836792
Silent Hill 3 is genuinely one of the best looking games I've ever played.
Both the art direction and the technical aspect are astonishing, when so many games (including everything posted ITT) either have one or the other.
I don't care how "technically good" your game's graphics are, if all they do is mimick life, then they're not good video game graphics.

>> No.8851479

>>8835952
THAILORTH

>> No.8852040

>>8850613
That game literally has a 1080i mode that effectively results in more than 900 lines of static resolution. Stay delusional.

>> No.8852105
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>>8852040
doesn't change the fact that the ps2 looks like shit on crt, stay mad while I play my dreamcast in vga with a crystal clear image

>> No.8852132

>cope
>seethe
>you're mad
>no you're mad
you're all way too old to still be console warring and you should all kill yourselves

>> No.8852136

You bring up Gran Turismo like everyone doesn't know very , very few Ps2 games supported progressive scan and most had frustrating buggy interlacing. It actually makes me sad there's no decent solution.

>> No.8852137

>>8841027
Agent Under Fire had the best performance on GC

>> No.8852142

To a name a few with buggy interlacing, Shinobi and Marvel vs Capcom 2. If you use a deinterlace filter on that the filter will get thrown off every couple minutes. Am I the only one that does this?
Games with progressive scan like Tekken 5 and Soul Calibur 3 looked beautiful.
Dawn of Mana has beautiful software anti-aliasing.

>> No.8852150

>>8852132
I'm 20 fuck you

>> No.8852158

>>8835936
Tekken 5

>> No.8852162

>>8852150
Stop wasting time with manchild toys or you're gonna become one of these 40 year old failures.

>> No.8852163

>>8852150
still too old
now kill yourself

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This is the characteristic ps2 jagginess is what you had to put up with most of the time. It actually looked better on a tiny CRT just like PS1 games and like absolute shit on LCD

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>>8852172
This was also right at the era when brown is real trend was catching on so ps2 games had this gritty industrial aesthetic. It's weird how consoles back then often shared the same teams but maintained a defining look to them.

>> No.8852228

>>8852172
>>8852181
looks great anon

>> No.8852241

>>8852163
ill do but not today

>> No.8852257

>>8852162
My life is already ruined with retrogaming, I can't even keep money, I just spend everything on games

>> No.8852261

>>8852228
this is some next level cope

>> No.8852265

>>8852228
Anyone who used PS2 on modern screens know this pain. At least the dreamcast had standard VGA across all games.

>> No.8852284

>>8852265
this

>> No.8852351
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>> No.8852416

>>8852351
>emulation
try harder

>> No.8852430
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8852430

>>8848492
Because Sega was the last game developer who understood that grass is fucking green and the sky is fucking blue.

>> No.8852731

>>8835936

Literally every ps2 game looks better than that. ps2 represents the pinnacle of retro graphics. They could have stopped developing graphics at the ps2 point, and the video games industry would be fine. The people in this thread are smoking crack.

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>>8852731

>> No.8853382
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8853382

>>8853281
now do an actual ps2 game instead of a rushed DC port

>> No.8853504

>>8853382
dc released 3 years before ps2 and died pretty much on ps2 release. How many ps2 games even are there on dreamcast?

And Altered Beast was made in 6 weeks and managed to be better than the arcade original. Ps2 had 10+ months and longer on some of their dc ports and they're still shittier in just about every way.

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8853570

>>8852430
k

>> No.8853575

>>8845659
Average Segaretro schizoposter not being in touch with reality.

That site is full of disinformation.

>> No.8853586

>>8852105
Stay delusional.
https://youtu.be/sGuU6Yr7gng

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>>8839703

>> No.8853607

>>8853586
>not official and still looks like shit
rip sonybros

>> No.8853609

>>8852731
>ps2 represents the pinnacle of retro graphics
the xbox does

>> No.8853610

>>8853281
>>8853382
sonybros...

>> No.8853642

>>8853607
>Not official
Grasping at straws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_2
https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_PlayStation_2_games_with_alternative_display_modes

>> No.8853687

So I guess this the thread for everyone born after 1999.

>> No.8853737

>>8853642
why nobody talks about it then

>> No.8853773

>>8853737
Why should they, and why is that relevant?

>> No.8853779

>>8839650
Not saying you are wrong but I cant see shit with this screenshot

>> No.8853928

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uDY3YbsAOdc

>> No.8853943

>>8853773
idk everyone that knows the dc talks about the vga cable, why nobody talks about the vga ps2 cable? is it rare?

>> No.8853962

>>8853943
That's because it's the last and only straw they could grasp at. Everyone was playing DC on VGA on an OLED and everyone was playing PS2 on composite on CRT. That's the only way they could argue the DC looks better.

>> No.8854020

>>8853962
>the only way
what about the shity res and blur

>> No.8854032

>>8840971
This, bunch of homos in this thread

>> No.8854040

>>8854020
Stop playing games with blur effects and start using GSM. There's your precious 1080i/480p.

>> No.8854045

>>8854040
too much work and doesnt remove the shity res

>> No.8854050

>>8854045
It's shitty res if you somehow think 1440x1080 or 640x480 is a smaller number than 640x480. I pity your math teacher.

>> No.8854376

>>8854050
The base resolution is still the same. You're just upscaling 640x448 or 512x448 or whatever, which you can also do with DC. The only console of that time that displayed real HD or anything higher than 640x480/720x576 was the Xbox.

>> No.8854415

>>8837063
>20fps
And that's a good thing I unironically like low frame rates as long as it's playable

>> No.8854450

>>8852261
i just like video games. it doesn't matter if one system has a slightly blurrier picture, or can push more polygons, i enjoy them for their uniqueness
console warring as an adult for long dead systemsn is just beyond pathetic

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8854476

>240 replies and no one has mentioned BLACK yet...

>> No.8854520

>>8835936
That game looks boring

Anime sucks (most of it anyway)

>> No.8854532

>>8854415
retard

>> No.8854539

>>8854450
its not pathetic its just cringe to see people enjoying games in such shity conditions

>> No.8854542

>>8854520
it isn't, its like an old martial arts movie

>> No.8854691

>>8854539
>still console warring
who gives a fucking shit how people enjoy games
you're like an old lady looking out her window mad as hell about shit other people are doing

>> No.8854729

>>8854691
kek okay, if you enjoy blur and bad resolution is not my problem, be a retard if you want

>> No.8854749

>>8835936
Silent Hill 3. That shit looks immaculate.

>> No.8854760

>>8854729
don't worry grandma the kids will be out of your yard soon

>> No.8854812

>>8854760
weird joke but ok

>> No.8854892

>>8847364
Do you have more images like this? with every 6th gen car videogame?

>> No.8854940

>>8854476
Nobody mentioned Burnout either. Segatards only post 3 shitty DC ports to assert that ps2 is le inferior.

>> No.8854994

>>8854729
nah man the others are right
'retro' people who go full autism over resolution and shit are so insane and they're missing the point entirely. basically just covering up the fact you dont want to actually play these games as much as tinker to get the display perfect.
so exhausted with all the dumb hdmi mods and other nonsense. who cares.

>> No.8855035

>>8854729
>im so cool i don't even care if you're doing something wrong but actually i will lurk in the constantly and continue replying to everyone

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>>8854940
still looks good to this day

>> No.8855336

>>8854476
>>8855331
Woah, emulator screenshots...powerful.

>> No.8855339 [DELETED] 

>>8854994
>nah man

Please talk like a normal person.

>> No.8855351 [DELETED] 

>>8855339
Nah man, youre a tremendous faggot

>> No.8855357 [DELETED] 

>>8855351
Somehow I just know I'm talking to a phonenigger.

>> No.8855374 [DELETED] 

>>8855357
yeah man
posting on a phone right now
nothing you can do about it either except continue to seethe

>> No.8855397 [DELETED] 

>>8855374
True, maybe if Hiroshimoot actually cared about this site he'd ban phoneniggers. But I guess we just have to deal with the decline phoneniggers bring and try to get people to change.

>> No.8855412 [DELETED] 

>>8855397
Can you be anymore of a cocksucking little bitch? Goddamn what a faggot you are.

>> No.8855416
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8855416

>>8855336
Your ad hoc rescue would be forgiven if there weren't already emulated Dreamcast screenshots, so I am just going to call you a grifter and Segatard.

>> No.8855420
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8855420

>>8854892
Watch Digital Foundry's new video.

>> No.8855437 [DELETED] 

>>8855397
>still crying
i guess this isn't the website for you then, champ
time to find a new home

>> No.8855459

>>8835936
Don't care, ps2 had the best games.

>> No.8855464

>>8854994
but the thing is, vga cables are official, and you could buy them everywhere back then, its not a question of hdmi autism, its a question of why dc was good at the time and still is

>> No.8856351

>>8837209
>Gran Turismo 4
That view at @0:06 looks amazing, more impressive than most games going out today. Art direction > fidelity.

>> No.8856361

>>8856351
I mean Xenogears 3

>> No.8856496

>>8855459
>gta3, vice city, San andreas, the matrix dvd
>the list goes on

>> No.8856501

>>8856496
yes there's like 4k games, the list literally goes on. the PS2 has more 9/10 games than the DC has games. sega widows are even worse than nintendies.

>> No.8856509

>>8856501
Ps2 does have good games and they're generally ports of dc games but not as good.

>> No.8856543

the ps2 library rapidly loses steam much faster than the fanboys say

>> No.8856619

>>8847934
The first two Yakuza games don't look close to as good as Shenmue though. Small, blocky character models, everything covered in fuzz, lack of detail in everything. Just because they fit more models on screen doesn't make it graphically better. It's like comparing Dynasty Warriors 1 to Tekken 7.

>> No.8856717

>>8852181
Z.A Wet Ass Pussy

>> No.8856985

>>8856501
>the PS2 has more 9/10 games than the DC has games
half of the ps2 library is filled with shity games and 95% of the dreamcast library is good, the dc came put in the golden age of gaming

>> No.8856989

>>8856985
>put
out

>> No.8857006

>>8856985
The Dreamcast came out in the absolute bottom of gaming history and had no games. There's no point in having 95% of the library being good games when there were only 20 games in total. Thank god the PS2 brought gaming back into the Platinum Age with over 4000 games.

>> No.8857019

>>8857006
It's Australia kun.

>> No.8857038

I have recently acquired a PS2 with 2 Dualshock-2 controllers, 2 8MB memory cards, and 5 games.
The controllers don't work properly.
Are there any good new replacement controllers being made or should I look for used originals?
Are there good higher capacity memory cards being made? I also understand that PS1 games can only use PS1 memory cards.
Is there a good website for getting games?
I never had a PlayStation before, I didn't want to make a new thread on /v/ or /vr/ just for these questions.

>> No.8857045

>>8857006
kek kys faggot, that meme is over used. also id prefer a small library filled with good games than a massive library filled with tons of shitty games

>> No.8857053

>>8857038
There are new chink controllers, but they don't have analog buttons and don't quite work with games that uses them (Racing games, MGS, etc.)
There are also high capacity chink memory cards. The few 64MB cards I have seem reliable and can store the full 64MB. I've heard people said that 128MB are scams that are unreliable and can't store the full capacity, but I don't have any of those on hand.
Download ISO off ROM sites and burn them or put them on a (chink) HDD adapter. Don't perpetuate the retro scam industry. https://cdromance.com/ps2-iso/ is pretty comprehensive and have undubs too.

>> No.8857054

>>8857038
>I have recently acquired a PS2
rip

>> No.8857057

>>8857045
Cope. Even if the PS2 has only 20% of its library being good game, it's still more games than the Dreamcast had in its entirety, including the mountain of DC shovelware.

>> No.8857058

>>8856501
>yes there's like 4k games
Umm, no, its games only do 1080i at most.

>> No.8857078

>>8857057
and? do you have some kind of weird fetish? you like to play shitty games with bad resolution and blur? gaystation 2 fans are weird af

>> No.8857079

>>8857058
gaystation bros... who can you guys be this retarded

>> No.8857135

>>8857053
Can I play burned PS1/2 games without modifying the console or using odd tricks? Search results seem a bit mixed.
My console doesn't have an HDD slot, it's one of the compact models.
So a good option for replacement controllers would be to source used ones locally?
Are there good higher capacity PS1 memory cards or should I get originals?

>> No.8857149

>>8857078
1080i is bad resolution lmao

>> No.8857157

>>8857135
Get original memcards, bigger ones shit themselves, get the controllers for 5 bucks at local shops if you can find them. You can't play burned games without modding, you can use OPL without HDD via network or USB.

>> No.8857171

>>8857149
>lmao
how I know your a nigger, the ps2 can't do that, unless its on emulator faggot, my ps2 can't do that

>> No.8857187

>>8857171
It's officially supported in Gran Turismo 4.

>> No.8857193

>>8857149
>1080i is bad resolution lmao
It's objectively better than 480p and well suited for 60FPS target games. Too bad barely anyone made use of it.

>> No.8857750

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QI0FQnrI5Y