/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8822751]

Your Metroid 64, sir.

[Anonymous No.8822773]

Why does the cover of Turok 1 have Joshua Fireseed on the cover if you play as Tal'set in-game? Joshua Fireseed isn't even in Turok 1 IIRC.

[Anonymous No.8822789]

>>8822773
Beats me. Joshua looks awesome though, maybe that's why.

[Anonymous No.8822987]

Great
I can't see 5 feet in front of me

[Anonymous No.8823004]

>>8822987
It's called atmosphere, fucking pleb.

[Anonymous No.8823005]

>>8822773
It's cus the current comics at the time had Joshua and they wanted people recognize the character on the box art.

[Anonymous No.8823865]

>>8822751
turok was fuckin weird man.
it's a really badass comic and a really good couple of video games, but the universe is crackheaded as hell
dinosaurs, aliens, sci-fi, time travel, native american mysticism, tribalism, pornography

[Anonymous No.8823879]

>>8822987
You try working with 4mb of ram nigga

[Anonymous No.8823990]

>>8822751
Hmm sure. Yeah ok.
Felt great beating that without gittin kilt.

[Anonymous No.8824001]

>>8822751
>linear sequence of linear segments
>only moderate interconnectivity between two levels, and in the middle of the game
>zero abilities to affect progression besides 1-2 uses of explosions
Exhumed/Powerslave EX is a better “””metroidvania””” and it’s still mostly linear levels with no interconnectivity, but at least gives you new tools and moves to navigate them, and it too is easy Nightdive shilling

[Anonymous No.8824049]

It's nothing like Metroid at all.

It's mostly linear. Huge maps, but still linear. Also it's actually good....

[Anonymous No.8824058]

>>8822751
call me a faggot, but I kinda wish for modern open world Turok
maybe similar to Farcry Primal, with taming animals (aka dinosaurs and such)
sounds awesome

>>8822987
get the remaster

[Anonymous No.8824061]

>>8824049
depends
there is a hub-area where you can select your levels
and the game encourages you to find some special pieces

>Also it's actually good....
and I thought I have shit-taste for wishing an open-world Turok

[Anonymous No.8824080]

>>8823879
I don't remember this fog being as bad in PS1 games.
A lot of those games had pre-rendered graphics

[Anonymous No.8824092]

>>8823004
This. The developers worked the limitations to their favor in this case. There's a real sense that there is actual fog in the game, not Superman 64 nonsense that didn't even try.

[Anonymous No.8824109]

>>8824080
cause the N64-system was "different" when it comes to it's hardware
and afaik, PS1 games also had fog

[Anonymous No.8824110]

>>8824080
It's just how Turoks engine works. The maps are fucking gigantic dude. The areas are massive with tons of meshes and fully 3D environments. The maps are about 10x the size of a normal quake map. I think the devs wanted the draw distance to be further back but couldn't get it fully optomised at the time of release

[Anonymous No.8824129]

I love turok (only played remaster though) but i dont think it's quite "Metroid 64". I think even Hexen is closer to it

[Anonymous No.8824372]

>>8822751
There are two levels in this game that are not a straight line, The Ruins and The Catacombs, both amazing levels, I wish the whole game was like that.

[Anonymous No.8824383]

>>8822987
it's called soul, you doublenigger.

[Anonymous No.8824435]

>>8824058
>get the remaster
kys

[Anonymous No.8824530]

>>8824001
Nightdive refuses to call this game "Dinosaur Hunter" like OP did, so, rather doubtful it's them shilling.

[Anonymous No.8824738]

>>8824372

[Anonymous No.8826047]

Is there any sort of achievement for beating this game knife only? I can do it on the first level at least…

[Anonymous No.8827616]

I never played any Turok game so I ask this in complete sincerity: how was it a Metroid stand-in? I know it couldn't be that it was made /instead of/ a Metroid game since Turok is not, AFAIK, a Nintendo property.

[Anonymous No.8827646]

>>8827616
Same people that made Turok went on to form Retro Studios, makers on Metriod Prime. It also is a FPS with some non-linear levels that require exploration to find some pieces for the Chronoscepter. Turok 2 is even more non-linear and you even find some abilities that allow you to reach earlier parts of the game you couldn't before.

[Anonymous No.8828087]

I miss when we could have Turok threads without the remaster kids showing up.

[Anonymous No.8828491]

>>8828087
I played both Turok 1 and 2 when they came out but the remastered versions are better, that's a fact.

[Anonymous No.8828657]

I remember playing the first level of Turok over and over and over, but I never got far. I probably sucked at games as a kid, but was there a way to save progress in this game without the controller pak? Did it have a password system? Anyway I remember I had a lot of trouble getting past the 3rd or 4th level and I always remember starting from the 1st one.

[Anonymous No.8829070]

>>8828087
oh great old one, tell me what are the unforgivable sins the remasters made?

[Anonymous No.8829170]

>>8829070
It made the game bearable

[Anonymous No.8829692]

>>8829170
18+ website, drag kid.

[Anonymous No.8830029]

>>8828657
You could save at little save points. I think it saved to the cart but I'm not sure.

It's possible you got stuck by missing keys. You need to pick up keys to unlock the next levels. It's possible to beat a level without picking up all the keys. In which case you need to replay the level again.

[Anonymous No.8830031]

Anyone interested in making some maps? I've been fucking around with the level editor. It's very slow and tedious to use though.

You basically drag and drop all the textures and snap them together. Every "texture" is a pre-made 3D mesh. You just insert it and place it. Then you make the sectors that you're character is able to walk on ontop of the floor textures.

[Anonymous No.8830345]

>>8830031
You could make an N64 mod.
Turok: Rage Wars and Turok 3 are played for their multiplayer. Moving stuff around could be cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ETVHuOS1E

[Anonymous No.8830853]

>>8822751
>metadoom
>no metaturok

[Anonymous No.8830873]

>>8828087
I don't, all you had was complaining
>muh fog
>muh platforming
>muh frame rate
>occasionally someone mentioned how cool the cerebral bore was
Now it seems like people actually enjoy it
I also played the originals back on the n64 when they first came out, and the remasters.

[Anonymous No.8831254]

I'm surprised how good these games are after so long. That is some catchy music too.

[Anonymous No.8831751]

>>8823005
>>8822751
Was it Doom 64 or Hex 64?

[Anonymous No.8831859]

Was I the only one who really liked 3?

[Anonymous No.8832121]

>>8830029
I see... yeah that was a problem I usually had in FPSs, the damn keys.
Still, I remember loving playing that first level a lot. I really need to replay Turok someday and finally beat it.

[Anonymous No.8832141]

>>8830029
>I think it saved to the cart but I'm not sure.
Turok requires the controller pak to save. No cart saving.

[Anonymous No.8832148]

>>8832141
Damn, then that was the real problem for me, I didn't have one back then.

[Anonymous No.8832278]

>>8823004
>>8824092
Extreme Nintendo cope.

[Anonymous No.8832975]

>>8823005
interesting I always thought they had only changed the face but they changed the body as well and the raptor a bit too

[Anonymous No.8833090]

>>8832278
Extreme Dunning-Kruger post.

[Anonymous No.8833118]

>>8823865
Dinoporn?

[Anonymous No.8833886]

I get it now... the guy who produced this game went on to fund Retro Studios, right?
Honestly I want to play Turok now, last time I did was probably in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.8833928]

>>8833886
>I get it now... the guy who produced this game went on to fund Retro Studios, right?
True, but that doesn’t mean the game has “Metroid-like” elements to its gameplay or level design. In fact, with how much it emphasizes platforming through linear jungle-themed stages, collecting yellow things to get bonus lives, it has far more in common with Donkey Kong Country.

[Anonymous No.8833937]

>>8823005
The og turok and xo manowar books are great, wish acclaim hadnt bought valiant and gave the books a bad reputation.

[Anonymous No.8833974]

>>8832121
To be fair, Turok was one of the few to try something different with FPSes and keys by taking some cues from Mario 64. You’d play through levels to find keys to open other levels, similar to how you’d find stars throughout M64 stages to unlock more levels.
Unfortunately, only about a quarter of Turok has any sort of open or sandboxy level design elements so this becomes more of a detriment.

[Anonymous No.8833978]

>>8832278
Seething snoy

[Anonymous No.8834031]

Can someone give me a qrd on Turok 1+2, I''m a cheap fuck and I wanna know if they are actually decent before I buy them. I like Metroid Prime and Echoes quite a bit, are they proto versions of that kinda thing? I played Turok when I was a kid but I was too stupid to understand it, I just used cheats to unlock the cruel weaponry to kill raptors with because I hated dinosaurs after being scared by Jurassic Park.

[Anonymous No.8834063]

>>8834031
What kind of elements from Prime and Echoes are you expecting? Both Turoks are primarily linear shooters with varying degrees of platforming elements.

[Anonymous No.8834089]

>>8834063
In my vague recollection Turok 2 seems kinda similar to Metroid Prime, although I didn't play it all that much. Also

>primarily linear shooters with varying degrees of platforming elements

The Prime trilogy is like this as well, it's good at presenting the illusion of a free-flowing environment but it is very linear, except for the key hunt at the end of Prime (which is the worst part of the game imo).

[Anonymous No.8834104]

>>8834089
>In my vague recollection Turok 2 seems kinda similar to Metroid Prime, although I didn't play it all that much.
You get feathers that can unlock additional abilities, but they’re only useable at “tiles” in certain points of the levels. If it’s for PC you can grab them from gog-games, see if you like then, then support devs with payment.

[Anonymous No.8834274]

>>8834031
As someone who has played and enjoyed both games I can tell you they're fun shooters with cool weapons but the level design is kinda lame.

[Anonymous No.8834280]

>>8834031
Turok isn't based on gaining skills or items to open up new pathways. It is a FPS with some key scavenging to open up other worlds to progress through the games. There is shooting and platforming, but the game can be a bitch if you forget a key and you have enemies respawn while your ammo situation never recovers. Up to you if you think it's worth getting or not.

[Anonymous No.8834293]

>>8822751
But it’s a FPS…

[Anonymous No.8835292]

>>8830031
I wish I had the drive to make Turok maps. I was fantasizing the other day about making a jungle level with an ancient temple that turns out to be a high-tech base. Never seen that one before, you can rip off my idea if you want.

[Anonymous No.8837163]

>>8834293
An FPS with somewhat nonlinear progression. Same as Prime.

[Anonymous No.8837178]

There were several "Metroid 64" without being Metroid. Mega Man 64 or Jet Force Gemini come to mind.

[Anonymous No.8838587]

>>8837178
Banjo-Tooie

[Anonymous No.8838760]

>>8823005
I love the overdone grit and excessive shinyness that N64 promo models had.

[Anonymous No.8838773]

>>8833978
Game looks worse than Saturn shovelware.

[Anonymous No.8838954]

>>8838773
Time to go to bed, snoy friend.

[Anonymous No.8838968]

>>8828087
As someone who played the games on release on original hardware, the remasters completely btfo the originals in every way.
Only underage fags who weren't even born when they came out complain about them.

[Anonymous No.8839008]

>>8838954
Why is it Nintendo fans go on the attack whenever you bring up obvious facts about their foggy, clunky titles?

[Anonymous No.8839086]

>>8839008
not a nintendo fanboy, it's just obvious you're a snoy because
1. seething about nintendo
2. seething about sega
3. seething about anything not sony

[Anonymous No.8840398]

>>8839008
>>8838773
Because you act like this

[Anonymous No.8841280]

>>8837178
>>8838587
Having recently replayed Shadowman that one definitely fits the bill.

[Anonymous No.8841414]

>>8841280
Shadowman is literally Metroid. The overworld is even a series of tunnels, like an ant farm.

[Anonymous No.8842685]

>>8839086
I've owned every Nintendo console up to gamecube. Bought snes and 64 on release. Why is it when I praise good Nintendo consoles like Gameboy and Nes no one bats an eye but the moment I mention n64 in a negative light I have janny and /v/ drones coming after me?

[Anonymous No.8842704]

>>8842685
I can't remember the last time you could speak ill of a nintendo console without people coming out of the woodwork to go apeshit one whoever dunnit.

Used to be, nobody ever spoke ill of FF7, Deus Ex was a masterpiece, and devil may cry wasn't gaaaaaaaay.

[Anonymous No.8842927]

>>8842685
>>8842704
Think about it from the point of view of someone who isn't a jaded little bitch. Many people grew up with Nintendo or Playstation or Sega and have nothing but fond memories, they don't see the need to criticise early consoles or games because for all their perceived flaws, they were awesome and as a child they were irrefutably fun. Contrast people's fun memories with your retarded contrarian opinions and the fact that you are a disgusting, talentless tranny faggot who has accomplished nothing in life, yet you have the audacity to shitpost on this board and smear developers when by your own admission, you are in the minority because your opinions, much like your pitiful existence, are utterly worthless.

[Anonymous No.8843101]

>>8842927
Mega drive was able to make better ports of arcade classics. Bringing up a consoles limitations is a massive cope. Saturn Daytona is a shit game, Saturn Sega Rally is not. Get a clue zoom boy.

[Anonymous No.8843103]

>>8842927
dangerously based

[Anonymous No.8843430]

>>8822987
Yes, and it's absolutely perfect.
Congratulations, you now have to experience tension in a genre you long since became proficient and lazy at.

[Anonymous No.8843432]

>>8828491
>I like Game X, anyone else like Game X?
>HEY DUDE WHY DO YOU BOTHER WITH GAME X, GAME Y IS CLEARLY BETTER. GAME X IS SHIT, IT'S ALL ABOUT GAME Y. GAME Y ANYONE? PLAY GAME Y DUDE, GAME X SUCKS
I don't think you fully understand just why, or how much, I utterly despise trash like you.

[Anonymous No.8843716]

>>8842927
So you freely admit the only thing holding N64 together is nostalgia?

[Anonymous No.8843748]

>>8841414
Yep, right down to using powers togive you access to new areas and the like. Fantastic game that stands up better than I thought it would these days.

[Anonymous No.8843761]

>>8843432
That wasn't what that anon was saying at all. The remasters of the Turok games aren't entirely new games. They've got everything that made the originals great, detract nothing and have some enhancements. What anon said is more akin to suggesting the best way to play a game.
It wasn't a "why play shenmue when you can just play yakuza!" moment of idiocy.

[Anonymous No.8843776]

>>8843716
Also critically acclaimed games and cult classics that are still played today. Same as PS1, rent-free fanboy.

[Anonymous No.8843783]

>>8843432
But... there is no Game Y. It's just a port of Game X.

[Anonymous No.8844419]

>>8842685
>I mention n64 in a negative light I have janny and /v/ drones coming after me
Not my problem. You get what your fooking deserve!!

[Anonymous No.8844468]

>>8822987
I too like to play on the surface of Venus.

[Anonymous No.8844627]

>>8835292
I have an idea of having a high tech base tower that's been destroyed and collapsed over in the middle of the more lava wastelands from Turok. So you'll climb up a mountain into the destroyed tower and into the tech base rooms will be full of overgrowth, rooms will be flooded, maybe a central energy core leaking molten liquid. Rooms tilted on their side you have to climb up rubble to get through as you can no longer pass through them normally cus the buildings collapsed.

The problem is the level editor is very very slow to use.

[Anonymous No.8844696]

>>8842927
based.
fucks who weren't around back then or who can't appreciate older consoles should stick to /v/

[Anonymous No.8845414]

>>8844468

[Anonymous No.8845419]

>>8843776
Conker is literally the only game worth playing on the N64.

[Anonymous No.8845675]

>>8824058
Finger on monkeys paw curls

[Anonymous No.8846518]

>>8844468
The robot fucking melted or something after taking these pictures. Venus is some scary shit.