Flash Cart/ODE discussion

[Anonymous No.8818072]

Now that nearly every console that matters has a way to play games from an SD/HDD with 100% accuracy(with some exceptions), which of these devices do you own/plan to own?

Similarly, have the device(s) you own let you down in anyway, or do they do everything you need them to do?

[Anonymous No.8818156]

>>8818072
I want a mega drive one, is the only good sega console after all
Maybe a gb or gba one

[Anonymous No.8818525]

Everything that isn't made redundant by a MiSTer.
So at this stage, GB + GBA + N64 +/- Saturn down the track if I can be bothered.

Waiting warmly on a proper PS2 ODE, but I hear that console is just a honeycomb hive of madness so I understand it'll probably be a decade or so before autists bruteforce it into HDL.

[Anonymous No.8818535]

>>8818525
>flashcart thread
>LOL JUST EMULATE LMAO
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.8818542]

I have flashcarts for GB, GBA, DS, SNES, and N64 and then I have a hacked Wii for GCN/Wii/VC injects and a hacked PS2 set up to load roms over the network
Been eyeballing a Mega Drive flashcart and made by Dreamcast with an ODE

[Anonymous No.8818563]

>>8818535

Isn't mister FPGA? There's literally no point for the hardware if the fucking hardware is being physically replicated on the chip.

[Anonymous No.8818581]

>>8818535
Wait until you hear what the fpga in your Everdrive is doing.

[Anonymous No.8818614]

>>8818563
fpga is hardware emulation
>physically replicated on the chip
that's not how it works

>>8818581
That's emulating cartridge hardware, not the console. The console is still handling the software given to it.

[Anonymous No.8818619]

>>8818072
>Now that nearly every console that matters has a way to play games from an SD/HDD with 100% accuracy
You mean memeulation

[Anonymous No.8818628]

>>8818525
PS2 ODE ks low priority because network loading exists. It's non destructive and can leverage an RPi for "portability"

[Anonymous No.8818637]

>>8818525
>proper PS2 ODE
Honestly, if there were a way to play PS1 isos from HDD/network natively without pops, I would live with all the other jankyness that comes with a modded PS2. Everyone I hear talk about it acts like it's impossible for some reason though, which is unfortunate.

[Anonymous No.8818638]

>>8818614
Split hairs however you want, you're still emulating. Hell you're emulating if you play a legit SNES cart on a 1chip console.
What matters is if the emulation is cycle accurate and the console functions are carried out in parallel, which MiSTer and the 1chip examples are. So you can either accept that your flashcarts are -loathesome- emulation devices, or you better start selling yours off to buy original copies because I'm afraid your setup isn't pure.

[Anonymous No.8818675]

>>8818072
>Own
FX Pak Pro
Mega Everdrive Pro
Everdrive 64 v2.5 and X7
N8 Pro
EZ Flash Omega DE
GCLoader

>Plan
Everdrive GB X7
Fenrir
X-Station
Chink GDEmu

I really want one for my PC-Engine as well, but the only one on the market that will actually play the games is that extremely expensive as shit Super HD System. That's gonna be almost $400USD after tax and shipping, and since it's Terra Onion it will never go on sale or get discounted. I thought that Krikzz would do his thing like he did for the ME Pro, but now there's the war going on and the economic sanctions put on Russia also affects international trade in Eastern Europe. I really hope that guy gets through unscathed.

[Anonymous No.8818793]

SD2snes
MegaSD
Sd2sp2
EZ Flash Omega
Satiator

A word of warning, so you can avoid being an idiot like me:

Skip the MegaSD and just buy an MDEverdrivePro, it's cheaper and much more customizable, plus the firmware isn't serialized to your device(fuck you very much Terra Onion). Yeah the MegaSD Virtua Racing Cart looks cool but who gives a shit?

The EZ Flash has some minor graphical glitches here and there but it's so rare and minor that it hardly matters. You decide if fixing those is worth the extra 50+ for a GBA everdrive or not. Also, be careful when saving, I lost 2hrs of Fire Emblem progress because I didn't wait long enough before powering off.

The Satiator is pretty neat, but it's probably not worth it in 99.9% of use cases.

[Anonymous No.8818827]

>>8818638
Okay.
Enjoy your $500 emulation setup.

[Anonymous No.8818856]

>>8818525
PS2 ODE? Just use OPL and a SATA HDD, it runs basically everything.

[Anonymous No.8818874]

>>8818675
you could get the turbo everdrive and just burn CD games, I have the SHDS3 pro and there are issues with it definitely

[Anonymous No.8818921]

>>8818525
>everything that isn't made redundant by retroarch
ftfy

[Anonymous No.8819005]

>>8818874
I thought of that but from what I've looked into the CD units can be absolute clunkers and will require a lot of maintenance before I even begin looking for proper CDs to burn. They're simply too old and the parts that usually need to be replaced at this point can be really hard to find something suitable.

[Anonymous No.8819023]

>>8819005
they're mostly fine from what I've heard because of their simple nature and this one fits alright

[Anonymous No.8819029]

>>8818874
>>8819005
>>8819023
Yeah instead of getting the ODE that isn't going to break down just from looking at it funny you should buy a 30+ year old piece of shit that costs just about as much and will most likely have extremely CD audio lag out the box.
Just save up for the Super HD and never use the HDMI port, you'll be able to look back on it and not regret the purchase.

[Anonymous No.8819030]

>>8819029
Mate, I have one, it has plenty of issues

[Anonymous No.8819031]

>>8818072
I pretty much have them all including the lynx one from Benn Venn. The Jag flashcart and neo pocket flashcart seem way too much for what you get so I said no. I want one for intellivision but the games are generally pretty cheap and I haven't seen the one that used to be made for sale for a long time. Thinking of getting a kung fu flash but don't even know if me 64 still works.
This is an atari 7800 flash cart but its seems annoying to actually buy it.

>>8818675
Terra onion stuff does go on sale, I got the mega sd and and the pc engine one on sale. The newer pce one came out a bit later after I got mine and those 5 super grafx games look decent enough so I was jelly.

>>8818793
I looked at ezflash and it just seemed so outdated compared to the krikkz. The krikkz gba just works, no bs with patching or nonsense with different types of memory.

>>8818874
I would burn pce games but would always getting skipping in the music of gradius 2 and some other games. You basically also get an arcade card which costs a lot on its own with the pce ode.

[Anonymous No.8819036]

>>8819031
EZ Flash IV is the last one that needed patches, and even they were made automatic with a kernel update. Newer EZ Flashes play clean ROMs.

[Anonymous No.8819125]

>>8818628
>PS2 ODE ks low priority because network loading exists
it's "low priority" because it takes skill to reverse-engineer.
current "scene" could probably pull off some sort of xstation-tier butchering bypassing the whole drive-control-system like it does on PS1.
but a gcloader-tier ODE plugging into the flex-cable-connectors is far out.

>>8818856
>it runs basically everything.
Except games which are "shit" and "don't matter", amirite?!

[Anonymous No.8819128]

>>8819031
>I looked at ezflash and it just seemed so outdated compared to the krikkz.
Boi, EZFlash Omega Definitive Edition roflstomps Everdrive GBA.

[Anonymous No.8819173]

i've got everdrives for n64, master system, genesis, snes and nes. ezflash for gba and gcloader (plan on getting a sd2sp as well just to "finish" the gcn off). the wii is hacked but i was never impressed by the gamecube emulation. also the wii is hacked. eventually i plan on getting a gdemu for the dreamcast then ill (mostly) be done.

[Anonymous No.8819184]

>>8819173
>but i was never impressed by the gamecube emulation
there is no emulation
>>8819125
not sure of any games that don't work, can you enlighten us?

[Anonymous No.8819210]

>>8819173

The GC on gamecube isn't Emulation. It's all gamecube hardware.

The wii basically IS a gamecube.

You may not be happy with the video output, but everything else is the same.

[Anonymous No.8819225]

Can anyone recommend a cheap solution for an N64 cart? Yeah I know the answer may be "there is none" but may as well ask.


Also I have the SUPER EVERDRIVE CHINA VERSION and for how stupid cheap I got it, it's pretty great. However, if you are a JPRG weeb I wouldn't recommend it since Star Ocean doesn't work.

Now, I know you will say "there is an uncompressed version of SO on Romhacking.net!'

Yeah there is, which is an amazing accomplishment.

However, doesn't work on the EDCV. Because the ROM is over 32meg and isn't supported.

There is probably another flashcart that is cheaper than the SD2SNES and does support larger roms but I don't know what that would be.

Also, because of the small ROM space, you can't do Bad Apple.

It obviously doesn't run anything that requires a special chip and no save states. Which sounds fine until you remember how many SNES games don't have saves. It was fine back in the day, but damn, save states sure would be good so I don't have to restart Magical Pop'n.

TRIALS OF MANA seems to work fine as well.
8s0d8

[Anonymous No.8819246]

>>8819225
they're all fine but the cheap solutions will always have the risk of losing a save

[Anonymous No.8819259]

>Own

Clone GDEMU with the latest firmware (it rules)

Everdrive 64 X5 (I don't care about Animal Forest or having to reset before turning off the game)

R4 gold card for DS that I got off Amazon. Doesn't have a timebomb and I haven't had any issues.

Official PS2 network adapter modded to accept modern HDD's. This one is my least favourite since OPL compatibility can be so spotty for lesser known titles. My PS2 is chipped so I just burn games for it instead, will probably just replace the laser when it dies. I really hope we get a proper ODE one day for it.

Chipped PS1 that accepts burnt CD-R's.


NES, SNES, PC-Engine, GB/GBA, and Genesis games I just play on my Mister or various emulators instead. PS1 games I usually can't be bothered to burn the disc so I either just use Duckstation or my PS3. Looking forward to the PS1 mister core to be properly released.

[Anonymous No.8819314]

>>8819210
If you wanna get really technical about it, Nintendont is virtualized and exhibits some performance differences because of it. cMIOS or Dios MIOS would be truly native, though.

[Anonymous No.8819336]

>>8818563
>FPGA
Absolutely soulless

[Anonymous No.8819337]

>>8818563
Many mister cores don't even bother to do that, they're just ports of inaccurate software emulators.
For the cores which are actually gate-accurate, software emulators which are accurate already exist.

[Anonymous No.8819486]

>>8819125
Any ODE is difficult to reverse engineer I imagine. But nobody is as inclined if you have options. Take Gamecibe, which has an ODE because you can't easily get anything like network loading as an alternative

[Anonymous No.8819575]

>>8819486
Well I mean they got PS1 ODE’s however that only works on a few of the revisions of the board, I imagine something similar would be possible on PS2, however with the benefits and ease of use that a HDD brings over an ODE, I don’t imagine there would be a rush as it would be extremely unprofitable

[Anonymous No.8819579]

>>8819575
>they got PS1 ODE’s however that only works on a few of the revisions of the board,
You should expect the same thing for the PS2. The PS2 went through a LOT of internal revisions, including changing the drive controller several times.

[Anonymous No.8819594]

>>8819579
Yes, that’s what I said?
But as I also said, it would be extremely unprofitable so I don’t imagine many people would be trying to crack that

[Anonymous No.8820536]

Is there any reason to get a PSIO over X-station? Seems inferior in every way.

[Anonymous No.8820645]

>>8820536
Aren't PSIO's way easier to get these days? I might be talking out of my ass

[Anonymous No.8820651]

>>8818525
>Everything that isn't made redundant by a overpriced emulator

[Anonymous No.8820740]

I hope thr ps2 ode doesn't need soldering and chinks are quick to copy it fast like the gdemu

[Anonymous No.8821382]

>>8820740
Just use a HDD, why are you people so adamant on an ODE
And it would need soldering because like the PS1 the disc drive has security

[Anonymous No.8821421]

>>8820536
Because you still need to solder the PS1 to use PSIO, so you might as well get the XStation.

[Anonymous No.8821449]

>>8821382
Optical disc drives inevitably die. ODEs prevent this and access times.

[Anonymous No.8821465]

>>8821449
Hard drives and optical disc drives are not the same thing, as I hope you are aware

[Anonymous No.8821519]

>>8821449
A HDD access time is nearly 6x quicker already, plus it’s an plug and play solution while also being extremely cheap and it also doesn’t affect the console being stock

[Anonymous No.8821528]

you could also just use network loading if you can't handle putting in a hard drive, nearly identical compatibility and speed and is built in on slims

[Anonymous No.8821537]

>>8821465
Yeah I'm kind of a retard. It's like I didn't read the HDD part. I'd imagine the SATA bus being faster in terms of access times then SD on an ODE. I am aware. Just tard nation 5000.

[Anonymous No.8821539]

>>8821519
Yeah you're right. I'm a confirmed derp. I wasn't thinking about the specific bus speeds, one versus the other. Please forgive. This level of derp will not happen again.

[Anonymous No.8821580]

>>8819005
The Super CD-ROM2 really isn’t bad at all. Mine works just fine and I don’t think it’s ever been opened up before. The only point of failure on it is one of the plastic gears and you can find replacements for it on eBay. It’s frankly the only model of the CD attachment worth the money nowadays since it’s less prone to failure and has all of the system cards built in. You’ll still need an arcade card to play the games it supports but you get the lion’s share of the CD library with this thing and a stack of CD-Rs

[Anonymous No.8822434]

>>8818072
GB/GBC, GBA, SNES, N64

[Anonymous No.8823050]

>>8819184
>not sure of any games that don't work, can you enlighten us?
AceC5

>>8819210
>The GC on gamecube isn't Emulation.
sure?

>>8819486
>Any ODE is difficult to reverse engineer I imagine.
was talking about reverse-engineering the whole disc-reading- and dsp-system of the ps2, considering it's so tightly integrated into the whole system's security and management.
not like gamecube or dreamcast, where's just just some flavor of IDE/ATA.

[Anonymous No.8823057]

>>8821421
>soldering 9 modchip-tier points is comparable to lifting pins, removing SMD-parts and soldering 20+ points.
ps: psio is shit and cybdyn are cucks holy shit lmao 1.5 years without update because they want to finish their anti-chink-cloning-system first? if they keep on postponing, nobody's gonna want to clone their shit in the first place.

[Anonymous No.8823064]

>>8821382
>why are you people so adamant on an ODE
Because OPL is a hacky piece of crap held together by flaky configuration and workarounds.
No code-commit in two years affecting game-compatibility, only shit like themeing and reading games from that memory-card-adapter, whoopdidoo, who gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.8823091]

>>8823064
Buy me a PS2 TOOL and I'll fix those games for you.

[Anonymous No.8823141]

>>8823050
? Ace Combat 5 works though
and yes GC on the Wii is not emulation

[Anonymous No.8823218]

>>8818525
This.

MiSTer was expensive but it saves me a lot of money in the long run. I'm glad I got one before the price hikes.

[Anonymous No.8823301]

In defense of people wanting an ODE for PS2:
Some games don’t work properly with OPL, Klonoa 2 for example.
PS2 Slims don’t have an HDD expansion bay.
The process of adding games to OPL isn’t very convenient.

[Anonymous No.8823348]

>>8823301
Klonoa 2 works

[Anonymous No.8823385]

>>8823348
Must be within the last year then. Thanks for letting me know.

[Anonymous No.8823404]

>>8823385
I think it's worked for a while, you just have to make sure the disc speed isn't set too quick

[Anonymous No.8823662]

>>8823050
>was talking about reverse-engineering the whole disc-reading- and dsp-system of the ps2, considering it's so tightly integrated into the whole system's security and management.
>not like gamecube or dreamcast, where's just just some flavor of IDE/ATA.
Point still stands. These people with copious autism ALWAYS find a way. It's not about difficulty, it's about motivation. PS2 already has alternative means and is thus heavily disincentivized

[Anonymous No.8823767]

I own everdrive 64 X7, everdrive GB X7, EZ IV, M3 DS (ancient!!) and some older R4
Sadly I don't really have any other consoles so I don't need any more flashcards.
Out of all of them the everdrive 64 is my most useful one since N64 emulation is still ass and games still look great on the original console.
Also as a bonus I tested NES emulation on N64 and it works great, the only console I still don't have original hardware for is SNES but I don't really care as much, since I own a SNES mini if I really want to use as close as the original controller as possible

[Anonymous No.8824069]

>even Nintendo is using EZFlash
>>>/vp/50217865
e-everdudes...

[Anonymous No.8824074]

>>8824069
LMAO

[Anonymous No.8824159]

>>8818072
I have all krikzz everdrives except for the PC Engine one.
From terraonion I only have the basic Neo Geo AES one which was like $600 but that's equivalent to the price of a real game so its midly reasonable.
PS1, PS2, PS3, Saturn, Dreamcast, Wii, and OG Xbox are all working with their ODE or OPL equivalent.
Backwards compatible PS3 made me feel like a real chad but people are giving away their PS1s and PS2s so I just took the chance.

Wanted to get the Jag, Lynx, and NGPC from retroHQ but their Germany provider is always out of stock (stuck in PAL purgatory).
Terraonion's PC Engine device is expensive but is the last "main line" thing on my list and there are really no other feasible options for the thing.
I have also been looking for older consoles like Atari and Intellivision but I have been thinking of just getting a USB clone controller to play via emulator to get a partial "feel" of the thing. Those consoles are like half a century old and from what I gather in those ancient forums you have to actively be participating in them in order to get a heads up for when the things will be on sale.

Any suggestions to what should I get next?

[Anonymous No.8824454]

>>8824159

[Anonymous No.8824886]

>>8824069
>the japs are chinking the chinks
I don't know who the ching chong is anymore bros...

[Anonymous No.8826212]

>>8818525
I think a MiSTer would be great for an arcade cabinet.
Just not the home consoles, it ruins the immersion of the original experience.
Plus from what I've seen the board looks exposed unless you print a case for it.

Does it have a way to plug in cartridges into it to dump roms as well?

I'd be down to get one if it could emulate the N64 and pass the Mario kart 64 emulator test.

[Anonymous No.8826419]

>there's even a rumble-version of gameyob for EZODE
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ez-flash-omega-definitive-edition-announced.580634/page-10#post-9749771
E-everdudes...

[Anonymous No.8826424]

>>8826419
Which game boy games used rumble? Pokemon pinball?

[Anonymous No.8826445]

>>8821537
>SATA bus
> SATA
> he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.8826448]

>>8823301
>PS2 Slims don’t have an HDD expansion bay.
RPi + USB HDD
>The process of adding games to OPL isn’t very convenient.
Only if yiur setup is shit. I use OPL to network load from my home NAS. I literally drag and drop from my windows machine to the SMB share folder and its done

[Anonymous No.8826505]

>>8826448
Isn't network loading too slow?

[Anonymous No.8826512]

>>8826505
He’s talking about transferring, not loading but yes, I wouldn’t transfer more than 2 games at a time

[Anonymous No.8826536]

>>8823141
>? Ace Combat 5 works though
crashes in mission 6 due to bugs introduced back in the r700-days.

>>8823141
>and yes GC on the Wii is not emulation
you wrote "GC on gamecube"

>>8823091
>PS2TOOL
for what? ps2sdk and toolchain exist.

>>8823404
so it doesn't work without workarounds.

>>8826424
and roms with patches.

[Anonymous No.8826758]

>>8826536
Are you using SMB?
There’s a lot of issues with a lot of games with that method, it’s just the nature of the system
Also disc speed adjustment is not a workaround
Also I didn’t write gc on GameCube, I was just replying to your post about it but it seems like you were being facetious and I didn’t realise

[Anonymous No.8826776]

>>8826536
debugging without a debug unit is a pita