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8817118 No.8817118 [Reply] [Original]

Its just not as good as the diamond layout

>> No.8817157

>>8817118
Whenever buy one of these fuckers they are broken. I have repaired 4 DOA controllers in the past 10 years. 0 issues with 3 button controllers

>> No.8817161

It’s not as good as the three-button layout either.

>> No.8817185

>>8817118
Why is there a streak of shit on your controller?

>> No.8817187

>>8817118
The diamond layout is pictured here.

>> No.8817197
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8817197

>> No.8817198
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8817198

N64 6 button layout is way better, playing platformers with the Saturn pad where you have to use 4 buttons is not good.

>> No.8817223

There's simply no reason to use a 3/6 button controller. They're good for nothing and there's a good reason they were completely phased out.

>> No.8817225

>>8817187
Anon that’s a trapezoid

>> No.8817229

Those 2 extra face buttons should've been shoulder buttons.

>> No.8817230

>>8817198
Keeping the c-buttons the same size as a&b like on the Ultra 64 proto controller would have made this the case. As it is the c-buttons are too tiny to be generally comfortable as main action buttons. You do you though.

>> No.8817236

It's better

>> No.8817239

>>8817198
the thought of wanting to play a 6-button fighter on that controller makes me almost throw up in my mouth.

>> No.8817241

>>8817118
I hate the diamond layout

>> No.8817247

>>8817198
how many 2d platformers use 4 buttons? Can only think of Contra III off the top of my head.

>> No.8817251

>>8817247
Pretty sure Magical Pop'n does.

>> No.8817286

>>8817225
see this anon here: >>8817197

>> No.8817326
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8817326

>>8817223
>>8817118
>>8817239
>no need for it
>not as good as diamond
>thought of it makes me sick

Is the best way to play fighters with the Street Fighter button layout.

>> No.8817347

>>8817326
why would you ever want to play the shitty mega drive version of street fighter
the controller does not make up for things

>> No.8817361

>>8817326
and it's not even about the button layout. Saturn controller has the most godlike d-pad for anything 2d, so the thread is completely missing the point to begin with.

>> No.8817626

There's a few modern games out there that are really pushing what you can do with the standard dualshock ripoff layout. Instead of fucking around with key combos and should button shit I wish they'd just bring back 2x3 face button layouts. Something like BotW would control a million times better if drawing your bows was just mapped to C instead of like, ZL+A (I don't remember the actual input)

>> No.8817668

>>8817347
SF2 turbo hyper fighting is better on Genesis, BITCH

>> No.8817674
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8817674

>>8817230
Yeah that too, something more similar to this.

>> No.8817680

>>8817118
why did it even have all these buttons anyway? Barely any game used more than 2

>> No.8817686

>>8817239
I made bitchin combos on KI Gold with that controller, it's great, best button layout it's just the ergonomics and design that is daft.

>> No.8817708

>>8817187
>>8817197
>>8817198
hate these small clicky buttons. why is it so hard to make a six button with six identical buttons

>> No.8817724
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8817724

>>8817708
Only one I can remember is the DC ASCII pad but everyone said the dpad was awful.

>> No.8817727

>>8817680
Fighting games

>> No.8817732

>>8817198
What a shitty controller for a shitty console. N64 praise is driven by pure bing bing yahooo nostalgia, not based in reality.

>> No.8817751

>>8817626
You're just advocating for having more buttons, which in that case would be a million times better placed in a paddle position like on the steam controller

>> No.8817796

>>8817751
I don't like being unable to grip a controller without pressing 5 buttons sorry, paddle buttons can fuck off.

>> No.8817851

>>8817668
literally no games were better on the genesis

>> No.8817854

>>8817796
>I don't like being unable to grip a controller without pressing 5 buttons sorry
You might actually be mentally retarded

>> No.8817978

>>8817668
>64 colors

lol.

>> No.8818002

>>8817626
Lol, that is retarded
I remember how bad shooting games were when they used the face buttons instead of triggers

>> No.8818003

>>8817978
Limited colours force developers to be more creative with their palette. It's why most SNES games look so soulless.

>> No.8818018

>>8817851

Top Gear 2

>> No.8818053

>>8818003
Lol

>> No.8818054

>>8817118
You are right, it's better.

>> No.8818234

>>8817732
go cope with your pile of shitty shovelware snoy

>> No.8818236

>>8817118
6 > 4
you can't argue against the math

>> No.8818241

>>8817198
This post makes me feel unsafe

>> No.8818242

Why didn't they ever release a 6 button controller with the form factor of the 3 button controller?

>> No.8818295

>>8817239
Why?

>> No.8818315

>>8818242
There is 3rd party options

>> No.8818518

>>8817198
This is the same layout, though. They are tilted the same direction as the OP's. /consolewars/ will use two of the same thing to say they prefer brands over, it's unreal.

>> No.8818529
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8818529

>>8817326
Meanwhile, this is the 3-button layout.

>> No.8818758
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8818758

>>8817118
Nah.

>> No.8818762
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8818762

>>8817118
But it’s built in anon

>> No.8818919

>>8818762
Pick a Saturn pad and see where you thumb is, you would have to be a mutant to play that diamond layout. The C-buttons on the other are properly aligned with your thumb plus it has A and B, it's the perfect layout.

>> No.8819020

>>8817118
>diamond layout
Is shit. And will always be shit.

>> No.8819028

>>8817724
D-Pad sucks hard. The buttons are awkward to press. The whole thing is super clunky, especially with a visual memory inserted. Its not a decent controller despite of what it looks like at first glance.

>> No.8819354

>>8817326
The best way to play fighters is with a fightstick.

>> No.8819365

>>8818919
Your thumb goes in the middle (B/Y) and moves to the left for A/X or right for C/Z. Vastly superior design to the diamond layout.

>> No.8819407

>>8817674
how bad are those?

>> No.8819413

>>8819354
No, it's not. The best way is a hitbox or keyboard.

>> No.8819729

>>8819028
And it was always expensive, I just used an adapter and a Saturn controller, the adapter had a VMU connector.

>> No.8819731

>>8817851
delusional american fanboy

>> No.8819756

>>8819729
>adapter
Saturn pad & adapter was the only way out of the dreamcast controller disaster. I am glad i still have mine.

>> No.8819878

>>8819354
Fightsticks have more than 4 face buttons. So we agree 6+ face buttons are best.

>> No.8820086

>>8819878
Retard logic. You press arcade buttons with your fingers and controller buttons with your thumbs, unless you're one of those spergs who awkwardly grips his controller to use fingers on the buttons.

>> No.8820214

>>8820086
That's why the Saturn was the best, L and R x3 kicks and 3x punches.

>> No.8820247

>>8817118
Yeah but doing shoryukens and lariats with the shoulder buttons feels like shit.

>> No.8820253
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8820253

Okay, hear me out...

>> No.8820262

>>8820253
Based

>> No.8820267

>>8820253
This one was really comfy.

>> No.8820362

>>8818762
>>8817118

Z & C seem barebe, and even the A B C are big enough you can press B & C the same way you would do B & A on an OG NES controller with your thumb with not much of an issue.

>> No.8820369

>>8820086
I dont care for those shitpost spergs that post claw grip uses of a dualshock for FPS, thats retarded, but i do know people use their finger for Track N Filed style button mashups.

>> No.8821524

>A = square
>B = cross
>C = circle
>Y = triangle
works just as well as the diamond layout.

>> No.8821531

>>8821524
>WASD on a gamepad
how about no

>> No.8821585
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8821585

>>8817118
Every controller that mimics the Genesis/Saturn layout has these uneven sized button layout. I used to own the PS3 Mad Catz Fightpads and loved the even sized buttons but they always wore out when casual friends used them. I've contemplated getting Mad Catz's newer ones, but does anyone know of any better alternatives with a circle pad and even sized buttons? or are these Mad Catz as good as that gets? Not interested in cross shaped dpads.

>> No.8821590

>>8817118
I would probably struggle playing THPS on that, troo.

>> No.8821614
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8821614

>>8817118
can't wait until this comes out 5 years from now and mogs literally every other controller

>> No.8821626

>>8821614
The ultimate Sega controller right here. What is holding them back?

>> No.8821708

>>8821614
>>8821626
>4 years without a word
Its time to let it go

>> No.8821743

>>8821708
To be honest, even with analog sticks, I have low hopes for it because the plastics and molding they used for the regular model 2 saturn pad make it feel cheap.

>> No.8821760

>>8818529
Been looking for this.

>> No.8821772

>>8821708
a couple months ago they mentioned it still exists and chip shortages have delayed it
https://twitter.com/retrobitgaming/status/1442141942528151553?lang=en

>> No.8821789

>>8821772
>that updated stick design on the saturn pad
Those look too small to be usable. Even looks worse than the old design. Hope they change it

>> No.8822349
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8822349

>> No.8822356

>>8820253
When the 360 came out I was surprised that they abandoned this layout.

>> No.8822373

>>8817118
Six buttons should have been the standard.

>> No.8822684
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8822684

>>8819407
>how bad are those?

I had one for the PC back in the day, it was made by Interact, and looked exactly like image related. came in the same box too. There is also another PC variant called the Mako PAD. I love how the analogue stick advertises "awesome for flight sims" , because not a lot of PC games actually supported analogue movement, back then, outside of maybe flight sims that supported flight yolks, and analogue controls. Never owned the N64 pad, but given that Interact made that one too, I would imagine it is mostly the same.

>> No.8822686

>>8818003
bait

>> No.8822759

>>8817161
t. Actual, legendary patrician

>> No.8822767
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8822767

>>8822349
Get it away from me

>> No.8822783

>>8820253
This confused me so much coming from Nintendo, Sega, and Sony nefore using the duke. This controller felt awesome in the hands though.

>> No.8823349

>>8818758
Only if they'd made a decent right stick instead of a chinese nipple

>> No.8823358

>>8821614
Sticks are too close though

>> No.8823423 [DELETED] 

I hate nintendards so much

>> No.8823504
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8823504

>>8821614
>>8821708
>4 years without a word
sept 2021 is when retro-bit posted picrel updating the design.

>>8821626
>whats holding it back?
chip shortage

>> No.8823530

>>8818003
avin a chuckle ere

>> No.8823554
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8823554

>>8818919

>> No.8825794

>>8817724
Retro bit should analogue it. Add paddles and 2 sets of shoulders. Fix the dpad like Saturn.

>> No.8825798

>>8817118
It's not. It's better.

>> No.8825812
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8825812

>>8817796
There is a right way to do it.

>> No.8825823

>>8818241
Don't worry kid, this is 4Chan. You're already in the van...

>> No.8825854

>>8820086
There's nothing sperg about it. We used to play Tekken 2 with both styles of grip. And it never was a problem for us zoomie.

>> No.8825874

>>8825854
Nah, you're a sperg

>> No.8825914

>>8825874
Suck my nuts zoomer.

>> No.8825934

I played SNES/GB back in the 90s and didn't try Sega style six button until I got a madcatz for the x360. Sega style is much better.

>> No.8825963

The snes style is good for tiny crippled faggot hands and toddlers, but the Sega style was designed for adult male hands just like the Xbox controller.

>> No.8825974
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8825974

>>8825812
Even diamond shapes aren't natural. They should be asymmetrical to be more ergonomic and to aid muscle memory.

>> No.8826008
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8826008

Here's a comparison of nintendo hands vs sega players hands.

>> No.8826029

>>8817197
Aside from A+X, the button layout works great. Never had a problem thumbing together B+Y and C+Z.

>>8825794
Also shrink the face buttons and space them closer together. How did ASCII manage to fuck up the dpad to begin with?! Back in the 8/16bit era ASCII was legendary, but quickly turned to shit with the release of 32bit systems.

>> No.8826036

>>8826008
We can only hope a nintendo kid will grow up one day and will be big and strong like his sega dad.

>> No.8826076

>>8826036
This post brought a tear to my eye. I want to be a sega dad someday. I'm just a sega bachelor with a cat

>> No.8826154

>>8826008
More like regular person hands and Xbox player hands.

>> No.8826158

>>8826154
The Xbox is pretty big lol

>> No.8826163

>>8825914
Based retard sperg

>> No.8826170

>>8826163
You too can learn to talk with women. It's easy.

>> No.8826451
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8826451

Small time.

>> No.8826538

>>8826036
it'd be my fucking dream come true if my wife is pregnant with my kid. We've stopped using condoms for years and nothing. I just want kids so fucking bad to play arcade and computer games with like I did growing up. Thanks for reading my blog, I guess.

>> No.8826881

>>8826538
No kids are still better than a kid with a crazy compulsive liar and one 'miscarriage'. And I say 'miscarriage' because I'm almost positive that bitch aborted it. I still cannot imagine how someone just pregnant can 'miscarriage' and act like it's no big deal, while I'm standing there, horrified, having just learned she 'miscarriaged'. DTW