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No Mister thread?
Let's fix that
Discuss hardware and current/upcoming cores

>> No.8816220
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Looks like the Game Boy core will get support for Mega Duck games pretty soon

>> No.8816537

I've had one for years, I got it as a development board and only just got a 128meg SRAM board. I'm very meh on it right now, it needs a proper setup that I really don't give a shit to do right now. It fucking hates every USB hub I've ever used with it and every knockoff 360 controller I've tried on it, it seems to like my DualShock 3 controllers but those are on their last legs.
Hard to say if I like or dislike the thing, I'll buy a bunch of port replicators and a decent USB hub and then cram it inside of a tiny ITX case eventually but I'm not doing that anytime soon.

>> No.8816545

>>8816537
my clear case looks like shit kek
i had to add a 5v wire for av out &
lost a bunch of screws and panels somehow

>>8816220
i wonder how many anon had one here

i use my setup pretty often,
sega cd, pc engine cd, i hope the saturn core is great

etsy has the best cases for mister

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>>8816220
Mega Duck support?? Gamate added when?

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>>8816865
One dev war working on Watara Supervision a few years ago, but he constantly keeps switching things he is working on. This week he started working on Apple IIGS.

>> No.8816897

>>8816878
Someone get him some Adderall so he actually finished a project.

>> No.8816924

>>8816897
>Game & Watch core never
>enjoy Bandai RX-78 computer core in the meantime

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>>8816878
>Apple IIGS
LMFAO, he has already dropped working on it. What a legend!

>> No.8818134

>>8817663
What the fuck. Can someone get him working on something useful like PC-98 at least?

>> No.8818141

>>8816141
Have any of you run a MISTER on an old PC CRT? I'm considering doing that as I have a 17" Dell I'm not currently using. Only issue with PC tubes is that they won't sync to 240P/480i, and mine specifically was really made more for 960P.

>> No.8818229

>>>/reddit/

>> No.8818540

>>8818141
I bought a shitty old pc monitor to try recapping and yeah it works fine via VGA from the analogue IO.
You just have to enable the MiSTer .ini setting to make it boot in linedoubler mode

>> No.8818575

>>8818141
You can enable scandoubler in global settings to output 480p instead of 240p. The only issue is that does not work on 480i content.

>> No.8818580

>>8816141
>cores
do misfits really

my mame doesn't need "cores". it's got all the roms I'll ever need thankyouverymuch bommerfgt

>muh latency
no such think boomerfgt. lay down the monster and stfu

>> No.8818680

>>8816141
is this like an rpi? why not just build a pc for complete emulation all the way up to ps3/switch etc?

>> No.8819231

>>8818580
Your mame also has cores. They are called "drivers" there.

>> No.8819913

>>8818141
my "computer" crt uses av input
but i would imagine you can tweak your ini file to support analog vga / a quality pc monitor

>> No.8819920

>>8818680
its nothing like a rp3(4)
some of the cores are normie emulation
but a few of them are fpga-based implementation (mega everdrive pro, terraonion pc engine, etc)

it simulates the hardware 1:1
misterfags are a bit misleading though
there are many cores that have issues/need updates
there are many cores that are not fpga-based

do not overspend for a de-10, i got one to avoid connecting my expensive desktop to a crt

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Misterfags, is the misteraddons bundle worth it?
Should I get the digital or analog IO board? The Saturn and PS1 cores are especially important to me.
Also what are some good controller options?
Any low latency way to hookup a PS1/2 controller?

>> No.8821068

>>8818580
Iq so low, this thread is now brazil.

>> No.8821094

>>8821048
i don't understand the question
don't buy analog out for no reason anon
don't buy the usb hub if you aren't gonna do 2P anon

>> No.8821097

>>8821048
>Should I get the digital or analog IO board?
Do you play to play on modern displays or on CRT? Analog IO board is used to get VGA video, while Digital IO just adds secondary functions of the IO board without a video out.
>Also what are some good controller options?
Check this spreadsheet for average latency among various controllers:
https://rpubs.com/misteraddons/inputlatency

>> No.8821110

>>8819920
>but a few of them are fpga-based implementation (mega everdrive pro, terraonion pc engine, etc)
What on Earth are you blathering on about?

>> No.8821140

>>8819920
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>> No.8821691

>>8821140
wrong.

not all cores are hardware simulation
some are ports of pc emulators anon

>> No.8821701

>>8821048
the regular usb polling is fast enough to get 0-frames on the 240p test suite reflex test
you will not be able to detect latency by hand
the snac adapters are a meme

>> No.8822604

>>8821097
OK so the analog board gives me HDMI and component out right?
Why is the digital io board more expensive?
>>8821701
I'll just get the retroflad SNES USB controller then

>> No.8822698

>>8822604
de-10 has hdmi out built in with addons
if thats all you need dont buy anything else
it even comes with a plastic cover

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>>8822698
without*

i hate my mobile keyboard so much
this is why everyone hates phoneposters

>> No.8823198

>>8822698
Does the analog IO board or the de-10 have a 3.5mm headphone jack?

>> No.8823205

>>8818141
I've used it on a PC monitor with a generic HDMI to VGA. Had to set it to 480p though.

>> No.8823207

>>8823198
Analog IO has it.

>> No.8823242

>>8823198
The analog IO board does but apparently it has a shit DAC and the sound pops whenever you load something so it's not really suitable for headphones or good speakers. Both IO boards have better Toslink digital audio and the de-10 itself outputs audio through the HDMI

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Pepsi comes in today

>> No.8823659

So, if I want to play on a CRT TV with have a SCART everything I need is to buy an Analog IO board and VGA to SCART cable and it's done?

>> No.8823873

>>8816865
oh shit I had a gamate when I was 5 and I hated it but still fondly remember it as my first video game console

>> No.8824332

>>8823659
Yeap, should work just fine. Just make sure you read up on how to configure the ini file beforehand

>> No.8824367

>>8818680
It's emulation, but it's not software emulation. You can run processes in real time using FPGA instead of having to simulate every call one at a time with software emulation. This has a lot of advantages such as

>no additional input delay
>no additional audio delay
>compatibility with real hardware peripherals (for example the analogue pocket, an fpga gameboy solution, can seamlessly use things like the gameboy camera, can link with original gameboys using gameboy link cables, can connect to a gamecube etc, all works just like real hardware where as with say one of those chinese software emulation handhelds you can't really do any of that. With the mister you can use lightguns for example)

And on top of that, the mister itself is very easy to connect to a CRT which is super nice if you're going that route as PC setups with CRT TV's can be a huge headache. Frankly for me, for the cores mister supports it largely replaced real hardware on my CRT setup because I can't tell the difference and it's a lot cheaper than RGB modding a shitton of different devices. Where as with software emulation, which you can super close, there's still noticeable audio delay on everything that I try and even with runahead I find I can't quite get the input delay down to native hardware+ CRT like I can with the mister

Basically, it feels like real hardware despite being emulation. That's the benefit of most fpga implementations. /vr/ seems to shit itself whenever it's mentioned, but if you're planning to use a CRT I'd say it's easily the best option out there. It has more flaws when you start using it on modern displays, though it's still not a bad choice

>> No.8824392
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MISTER GAME AND WATCH

>> No.8824670

>>8823659
get the appropriate cable not a cheap as you can find it type deal though

the scart connector varies depending on where you get it

>> No.8825108 [DELETED] 

>>8824367
Interesting post, thank you. The MiSTer hate is on about the same level as those mamehate threads. It's as tiring as responding to right-wing babies complaining about cancel culture. Probably the same little asswipes anyway

>> No.8825121

hmm buy a mister or...
buy all the consoles the mister can emulate + flash carts hmmmm seems like an easy decision
mister is trash lol

>> No.8825172

>>8825121
>hmm buy a mister or...
>buy all the consoles the mister can emulate + flash carts hmmmm seems like an easy decision
List some prices for your four fav consoles + everdrives!

>> No.8825176

>>8825121
Good luck buying Adventure Vision and games for that... tabletop?

>> No.8825181

>>8825121
For the price of a mister I don't think you could even buy a Neo Geo flash cart, not to mention the console itself

>> No.8825182

>>8825121
when you put it would that way mister sounds pretty good

>> No.8825209 [DELETED] 

>>8825108
>its as tiring as explaining to leftists that not everything you don't like is (((raycis)))

fixed that for you retard

>> No.8825220 [DELETED] 

>>8816141
stop shilling this garbage i'm not gonna buy it
you can emulate on a laptop for free

>> No.8825221

>>8825121
>CPS2
>NEOfuckingGEO
>the absolute state of flashcarts in 2022 due to war


ok why don't you go to another thread of shit you don't like and shit it up there too?

>> No.8825223

>>8825220
hold up lemme hook my laptop up and somehow get 240p onto my crt real quick lmao

>> No.8825225 [DELETED] 

>>8825108
>loves mister
>is a marxist tranny
the jokes write themselves

>> No.8825230 [DELETED] 

>>8825223
i don't want shitty quality because i'm not a braindead nostalgiafag
just use a bilinear filter if the pixels bug ya so much
looks fine on my machine

>> No.8825303

>>8825230
why are you here then?

>> No.8825306 [DELETED] 

>>8825303
you can like old vidya without playing em as a kid
but the thing about it is actually playin em
not obsessin over picture quality or tvs or stuff like that

>> No.8825313

>>8825306
the mister is the cheapest option besides the dubious rp3(4) - has the most consistently good cores & constant update/support.

the fags like myself in this thread,
also like playing old games,
which is why this thread exists

>> No.8825336 [DELETED] 

>>8825225
>Right-wing jokes
>jokes
You guys have a second joke now? Wait, i bet it's also about how I'm a Marxist tranny!

>> No.8825343 [DELETED] 

>>8825336
>>>/pol/

they will take the time to correct your mental illness, we will not

>> No.8825465

I want one for cps1/2 and neogeo. How good is it? Better then FB Neo with runahead?

>> No.8825471

>>8825465
i use the mister more than my mvs setup
but its mostly due to ease of use.

the mister takes a bit of setting up to get everything configured, but once you're up and running bootup time is like 4 seconds

>> No.8825493

>>8825121
hmm buy a mister or…
download free emulators for the PC you already own hmmmm seems like an easy decision
mister is trash lol

>> No.8825495

>>8825471
I would love to have a legit neogeo but its too expensive. Also i want hd output cause i dont care what anyone says but oleds are the greatest displays ever

>> No.8825508
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ok so
has anyone successfully added a second usb sd card & configured the MegaCD core properly?


my new storage shows up for pc engine but not sega cd for some reason

>> No.8825509 [DELETED] 

>>8825493
enjoy your v&

>> No.8825512

>>8825493
This mentality is stupid. Its like saying why eat steak when i can have bologna? Poor people shit

>> No.8825518

>>8825495
a 161 in 1 multicart and mvs-1b(c) board and supergun setup is doable but kinda ridiculous considering the games run fine on the ASP, rp3, and mister just fine for 1/3 the price or less

im autistic and wanted the actual board

>> No.8825526

>>8825518
I want an aes but its too much. Games are ridiculous.i have a copy of kof 98 aes though. One of my fav neogeo games and they had it at a local shop. Fucking expensive but its a collectors piece

>> No.8825576

>>8816537
Try the USB hub that Sorgelig designed it works great.

>> No.8825586

>>8825508
Rather than secondary storage, I have separate microSD cards for the cores that have bulkier libraries that I swap out.
I use one just for PSX, one for MegaCD and PC Engine CD, and a third with everything else, and I've not had issues.

>> No.8825620

>>8825586
i gave up kek
i have a main 256gb (windows stopped recognizing it, my pc is a pos)

i was trying to add segaCD and pcengineCD on a separate 128gb sd i got on sale -
theres a naming trick to get both sd to show up at the same time

i tried a few variations,
i could only get one or the other to show up at a time kek


im moving everything over to the main sd now and saving the other as a backup

>> No.8825621

>>8825508
I just have a big USB drive hanging out with all the fat libraries.

>> No.8825624

>>8825621
any of you wizards got the x68000 working?

>> No.8825767

>>8825624
yes I used the the pack of hdf files called "Sharp X68000 Starter Pack" Most games seem to work. Some games need turbo turned on to run.

>> No.8825919

>>8825767
if it doesnt require the 2nd sd card i'll tweak on it tonight

its one system i actually wanted to test badly on the mister

>> No.8825924

>>8825919
No core requires the 2nd SD card. It's better to use a USB drive for games storage though, faster and more reliable.

>> No.8826015

>>8816878
IIgs is probably pointless, doesn't really have a great library that's not better served elsewhere. I wish that the IIe core would get polished off it's absolutely useless without saving.

>> No.8826075

>>8816141
Can you get the hardware now? Last I looked it was all sold out and cost a bunch and then I just went and emulated the shit on my PC instead.
I still want to get one to fuck around with it though.
Also, did PS1 or Saturn cores ever get completed?

>> No.8826123

where are the cartridge slot adapters? i need NES, SMS, SNES and GEN slots to load genuine carts.

>> No.8826135

>>8826075
The PS1 core is fully functional now. Still a few bugs to iron out so its in Beta but I haven't found any game that didn't play great.

>> No.8826251

>>8826123
ok i guess its possible to use the polymega shit for that on mister
i dont know why you would, but you can

>> No.8826458

>>8826075
I ordered a DE-10 Nano from the Terasic website earlier this month. It said the estimated ship date was in late June but they actually shipped it only about a week after I placed the order. It was shipped via Fedex from Taiwan and arrived today.

>> No.8826481

>>8826458
i sniped a used loose one on ebay a few years but i doubt its as easy now

>> No.8826487

>>8825465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aRJaNqAtsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zLLPOV5ZIU
And he have a lot more the MiSTer vs emulators comparisons

>> No.8826489

>>8816141
Impossible to buy RN so no

>> No.8826496

Is it possible to use a USB CD reader for PS1, Sega CD and TGCD games?
Would be nice to play my actual disks without needing to deal with dying lasers

>> No.8826504

>>8826489
"add to saved search" @ notifications on
i stalk 'rare' shit all the time
the de-10 isnt limited,
people are scalping
+chip shortages
& china = china

>> No.8826507

>>8826496
not 100% sure on this
i got a brand new burner last year to burn discs for all my systems (freemcboot)
the laser died after about 400 burns
better than killing your actual hardware,
but make of this what you will

redundant backups are the smartest choice

>> No.8826525

>>8826075
Email Terasic customer service and ask to buy one. They sent me a link to buy one even though it was out of stock on the site and shipped it the same day. They hold a few in reserve, it seems.
This was with the academic discount though, don't know about the full price ones.

>> No.8826568

>>8826525
>academic discount
For a magic game machine
Explain this sorcery.

>> No.8826595
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Misteraddons kit worth it for $550?
Also anyone know what this adaptor is called on the latency spreadsheet?
I want to use my actual dualshock 1/2 for PS1 games
https://aliexpress.com/_mtz6MVs

>> No.8826604

>>8826595
Oops
https://aliexpress.com/item/4000031030282.html

>> No.8826665

>>8826568
The only reason magic game machine exists is because Intel and Terasic are aggressively pushing their DE10-Nano board to universities to promote FPGA development. As such it is sold at $200 loss and they even provide further discounts to students. Emulator devs took notice of this very cheap FPGA board and built a magic game machine around that. Terasic is aware that their educational product is used for gaming by some dorks but they don't care, as long as it promotes FPGA development to new people.

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MAME zealots once again exposed as frauds, FPGA project keeps fixing emulation mistakes from decades ago

>> No.8826731

>>8826665
That makes sense.

>> No.8827194

So how are the PS1 and Saturn cores going?

>> No.8827208

Someone needs to just make a normie version

>> No.8827213

>>8827194
PS1: public beta version is very playable, almost ready for proper release
Saturn: held hostage by Vladimir Putin

>> No.8827219

>>8827213
Shame, really the only reason I would want a Mister

>> No.8827628

>>8827208
You can already buy ones premade and configured

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I have an NT mini noir and it having cores is nice. I want to get a mister sometime but this is fine enough for now. Gameboy/Color on the crt is comfy. Wish it had GBA but I have a gamecube and flashcart so just need to set that up. FPGAs are so cool. Is there any console you want homebrew for that does not have much? I might try to make something. Or for a console that has a bunch is fine too since it would probably be easier to make too.

>> No.8827725

>>8826595
>>8826604

even if you have nothing in the kit
you can get the i/o board and hub later for cheaper on ebay/etsy

i use those chink ps1/2 adapters and they work fine - i haven't tested it on the mister but i don't see why it wouldn't work, mister takes finnicky usb shit that my windows machine hates

>>8826706
the mame guys refuse to fix their Ui despite every single person on the planet bitching im not surprised

>>8826665
its not a loss, its a taxpayer moneypit
when you get big enough you cannot lose

>>8827219
saturn and ps1 seem awesome
even when they're complete i wont run them as i don't want to cook my processor and become toaster

>> No.8827872

>>8827643
of all the analog products
the mini noir is the only one i want
besides the upcoming duo-pc engine

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>>8827872
I managed to get it in the final final release order of them. Knew if I didnt get it there I never would becuase im not gonna pay a scalper. Duo-pc engine one looks nice too. Pocket is portable and has a real cool screen but needs a "jailbreak" before I'd consider getting it.

>> No.8828161

>>8828141
i already have og&modded hardware so the pocket is out for me

the pc engine coming out will save wear and tear on my actual systems the mistercore is good enough to where i might just get a supergrafx instead, its so ugly i love it

>> No.8828412

I think Im just gonna settle for this.

I was gonna go for old console and was willing to learn soldering for installing the relevant RGB mods/mod chips etc but apparently soldering is dangerous. All the talk of lead poisoning/fumes poisoning makes me anxious.

Seems like mister is the closest we'll get to original hardware. Can you connect OEM controllers too without added lag?

>> No.8828424

>>8828412
you wont get lead poisoning anonkun
you don't work for an electronics assembly company 8+ hours a day 5 days a week

>> No.8828427

>>8828412
they sell adapters
i use 2.4ghz retrobit saturn pads and a usb arcade stick - the classic mini systems you have been collecting make fine additions to your mister setup

>> No.8828434

>>8826665
Do I need to actually upload a student ID to get the discount, or can I just sign the agreement?
I can try uploading my decade-old student card but if it gets scrutinised at all what happens- will they have to refund me and I get banned from buying via terasic?
$25 isn't huge but it's not nothing either.

>> No.8828474

>>8828434
shoop da woop
you already know anonkun

or ship it to a family member

>> No.8828709

>>8828412
If you were going to get flashcarts, yeah just get a MiSTer. Saves you a ton of trouble and money. Yes you can connect OEM controllers with SNAC adapters, they're cheap on aliexpress.

>> No.8828840

I have a really dumb newbie question.
So the MiSTer is based on the DE-10 nano, which is a Cyclone V, yeah?
If intel were to release a new prototyping board with a more powerful FPGA, would the work of the MiSTer project just carry over? How much effort would it take to bring the cores over to a more powerful board?

>> No.8829151

>>8828840
i think it depends
there are "better" boards the de-10 is widely used because of cost and availability

>> No.8830035

Saturn dev appeared on the forum, saying that he has a slow unstable internet connection and he is continuing to work on cores.

>> No.8830041

>>8828840
A lot of the mister work was ported from mist and other fpga platforms.

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>>8830035
Based Ukrainian.

>> No.8830092

>>8830052
the entire area has been shitted on since the 90s
had a cutie foreign exchange yugoslavian girl live with us for a few months

you could tell her heart was pained,
& she hated us , we couldnt relate to her at all windows pc, ps1, n64 in the livingroon, etc

>> No.8830107

>>8827725
I doubt you could cook your MiSTer. I leave mine on 24/7 and have no fan, in Australia and haven't had a single problem. I play AO486 and A1200 regularly.

You're more likely to fuck it by plugging/unplugging shit all the time. What DOES fuck them is those crappy power switches people get, do not use!

>> No.8830113

>>8830107
i leave mine connected 24/7
but i have a surge strip that cuts power when im not using it (crt is also on this)
i have the fan on my mister but -
my rp3 throws temp warnings pushing arcade titles

i just dont want to push my luck
+i have the hardware 10 feet away and binders of cdr

>> No.8830123

>>8830113
The FPGA doesn't really have any concept of "load" like a general purpose CPU does. It can get hot but it stays stable.

>> No.8830132

>>8830123
i got a heat sink on it as well
spergposters used to say the mister ram would wear out and that you had to change cores often due to "burn in"


ill wait a few months before diving into it, once the cores both go public

>> No.8830156

>>8830132
I have a heatsink, but burn in? What a load of voodoo bullshit. The FPGA is tested to be reliable for literally millions of hours.

>> No.8830169

>>8830107
What’s wrong with the switches? I have one in series with my power supply.

>> No.8830263

>>8830169
Some of the cheap ones drop the voltage which is very bad for the health of your device. Most of them are the cheap ones.

>> No.8830436

>>8826487
Isn't the colour difference just a setting in FB Neo?

>> No.8830572

Does anyone else get a bit of slowdown with Sega CD and Sonic CD? is that accurate for the hardware? I am also using cifs mount to stream the rom from my NAS but I don't notice any other core having an issue. I think it might just be how sonic cd played regularly.

>>8816141
buy a case man. I fried a unit accidentally with one tiny static electric shock from a finger to the unit. Better to be safe.

The sound on MiSTer just really hits nicely.. I am not like the purists I guess bc im running mine through HDMI and into a receiver, but the sound of every core sounds so fucking good coming through.

Only shitty thing about the hardware is that unfortunate ethernet port placement. The little unit is neat. I really hope that Saturn core makes it to a public release fingers crossed

>> No.8830580

>>8830572
Don't have a Mister but there is slowdown in every Sonic game

>> No.8830584

Lets fix that.

>> No.8830586

>>8830572
Sonic cd is naturally slow on the original hardware.

>> No.8830840

Does the mister run PS1 at original speed or full running speed of 60fps?

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>>8816141
meh, these are pretty limited.
i only care about 5th gen and up (amiga would also be nice) so not very useful to me.

>> No.8831309

>>8830580
>>8830586

i was just playing sonic cd
i got pretty far and havent really noticed anything - ill hook up my actual cd and do a comparison


the slowdown is on various cores / games
>megaman x railcart armadillo scene with all the bats
>various shmups

i think its normal?
the cd core runs all the ridiculous fmv games just fine so

>> No.8831695
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8831695

Did not expect this

>> No.8831797

>>8831695
Out of nowhere, straight from a warzone, what a guy.

>> No.8831806

>>8831695
WTF, he's sooo based

>> No.8831894

>>8831695
We are now closer to a CPS3 core Even though I'm fully expecting the memory speed stuff to cuck it making it not possible

>> No.8831897

>>8816141
>no composite output
dropped

>> No.8831898

>>8831695
K O L I B R I

;_;

>> No.8831932

>>8831897
get a better tv

>> No.8831942

>>8830132
>you had to change cores often due to "burn in"

That was just a jokey pasta in the vein of the MP3 'rotational velocidensity' pasta

>> No.8831948

>>8831897
antonia V made an av/s-video adapter anonkun
i use it and its great, only issue is a bit of warble on the genesis core

but i think even the original hardware is bad like that for composite

>> No.8831952

>>8831948
>>8831897
https://www.antoniovillena.es/store/product/vga-composite-s-video-adapter/

>> No.8831960

>$450 USD just for a plain board direct from an electronics components reseller
Yet another hobby ruined by "retro gamers"...

>> No.8831964

>>8831960
don't get scalped
stalk auctions, stalk mercari
the deals are there, it just takes time

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8832013

I was not expecting this.

>> No.8832092

>>8832013
Works with doom resurrection, mister bros we just can’t stop winning!

Hopefully this indicates the Saturn is near too

>> No.8832259

>>8832092
Isn’t the Saturn basically just a souped-up 32X? I think this must just be a by-product of his Saturn dev work.

>> No.8832263

>>8832092
this is great news
ill add all 3 new cores at the same time
once they are fully cooked (i dont do updates, and i dont connect to the internet whatsoever)

im slightly autistic once its running i leave it tf alone

>> No.8832708

https://github.com/srg320/Saturn_MiSTer

Saturn core went public. Apparently you can build it for single ram but it may not work. Right now dual ram version is the actual only way to work.. will need to look into this

>> No.8832713

>>8832708
so no analog out with dual ram or what?
i got the biggest ram stick available at the time
shame i already have to toss it

>> No.8832854

>>8832708
How do you build? I'm an idiot

>> No.8832882

>>8816865
They really named it that.

>> No.8832883
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8832883

>PSX, NGPC, Saturm, all the cores I wanted are coming out now
>micro-usb port on my Mister broke
Welp.

>> No.8832896

>>8831948
there's a dude making cores that have composite built in, you just need a correctly wired cable that goes from d sub to composite/svideo

>> No.8832907

>>8832883
maybe if you could SSH into the mister with puTTy you might be able to launch a core that way then use a SNAC adapter + controller? I'm pulling this suggestion out of my ass because I don't know if you can do that

>> No.8832909

can I use the mister to stream other people playing video games so I don't have to?

>> No.8832912

>>8832896
im too scared to mess with it
all my cores work fine & it took forever to configure

the sega shit looks good enough to still play ill live with it kek

i do love the adapter though
i was using vga to av (chink adapter) before this and it added 2-4 frames of lag
now i have zero

>> No.8832914

>>8832883
how?
i haven't plugged or unplugged shit from the board itself since i got the usb hub

>> No.8832928

>>8832914
I've been using a cheap wired dongle because I didn't need to spend an extra 85 bucks on the board. Mirco-USB is objectively one of the worst connectors ever designed. It's not durable at all, especially if you're plugging in wired cords that are going to have even a normal amount of flex/wiggle to them. It's not like you overly rough with the port in a way that would justifiably break it, it's just a shit fucking port that everyone is glad to have moved past.

Of course, if you shell out the extra shekals for the usb board with the bracket plug that stays fixed and rigid, you won't have any problems. But it's more about the design of Micro-USB itself that's the problem. So to anyone using corded dongles or wires, just keep that in mind.

>> No.8832942

wtf why are raspberry pis so expensive now?

>> No.8832969

>>8832883
oh no that would take literally 3 seconds to fix if you knew how to solder

>> No.8832983

>>8832969
>thinks removing a SMD micro-usb connector from a board and microsoldering a new one is easy if you don't have at least $200-300+ worth of equipment and a steady hand
>literally 3 seconds to fix
Christ,get a clue before you talk shit.
>inb4 NUH-UH I'M A SOLDERING SUPERSTAR I INSTALLED A PS1 MODCHIP BACK IN THE DAY DURRRRRR

>> No.8832986

>>8832983
anon I literally solder misters for a living

>> No.8832989

>>8832942
redditors

>> No.8832993

>>8832986
Yeah, and my uncle works for Mister corporation and says you're full of shit.

>> No.8832994

>>8832928
you can fix it
just be VERY careful
yes micro usb is shit tier
thats why everyone moved to C so quickly

>> No.8833001

>>8832983
kekked

i soldered the missing 5v jumper on my iO board
micro usb is tiny
practice on some throwaway items first and go for it - use flux and one quick swooping motion

>> No.8833004
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8833004

>>8832986
I guess that makes you... Mister Solder

>> No.8833012

>>8832983
>$200-300+ worth of equipment
If you don't have the equipment you can always just use mercury and then freeze it afterwards.

>> No.8833013

>>8833004
>CARLOS!!!

>> No.8833291

>>8832708
>https://github.com/srg320/Saturn_MiSTer
>
>Saturn core went public. Apparently you can build it for single ram but it may not work. Right now dual ram version is the actual only way to work.. will need to look into this
Dual ram only??? FUCK

>> No.8833334

>>8833291
PSX core was also dual ram during dev.

>> No.8833374

Just tried Virtual Racing Deluxe on 32X core. Now I understand why people praise that game, it is absolutely legit for 1994!

>> No.8833383

>>8833374
that's the only racing game I ever got into

mainly because it's the only racing game I had access to when I was still young enough where racing games didn't feel tedious as fuck to play

>> No.8833953

>>8832986
can you fix mine :( it was fried a bit - i can boot to linux/xfce, but mister wont boot, very wierd problem

>> No.8833983

>>8833374
Funny, it was the first game I loaded up today and I don’t understand why people praised this and shit on the Genesis port that I had growing up. It looks the exact fucking same. Fun game I just don’t get the disconnect.

>> No.8834002

>>8833374
It is my favorite version, I have the music/sound effects from that version burned in my head, and I don't think any of the other ports sound the same.

>> No.8834285

>>8833983
It’s a bit smoother, better draw in distance, sound, you know small things but defining things. The genesis version is fine too but play them both you will see the teeny differences.

Fuckkk… this little device is pretty slick all things considered, I have one and a lot of original consoles but I appreciate playing on the mister for convenience and to preserve the longevity of my original hardware. As for the computer and arcade cores though, as things continue the economy of the lil thing gets better and better. Although my second units a bit fucked I might need to invest in at least one more working complete unit, especially with Saturn and Psx entering stable territory

>> No.8834307

Air cooling or passive cooling? Im using passive cooling right now and it gets unbelievably hot after just fifty minutes and I'm thinking of switching to a nice quiet fan

>> No.8835189

>>8834307
how do you now its getting hot?

>> No.8835204

>>8835189
*know

>> No.8835206

>>8835189
he put his peepee on it

>> No.8835402

>>8834307
I use passive cooling with a heatsink because the fan was too noise. Haven't had a single problem, heat is not really a massive problem for electronics it's more the heat cycling, so just leave it on.

>> No.8835451

>>8835402
what fan are you using that makes noise?

my iO board has a small fan and i cant even hear it

>> No.8835462

>>8835451
Probably a fan from Aliexpress. Mine was noisy as fuck. The one that came with my purchase from misterfpga.co.uk doesn’t make a sound.
That being said, I seriously question if the fan is at all necessary.

>> No.8835469

>>8835462
I can also vouch for the generic fan from the .co.uk seller. The thing is very quiet, no need to overpay for Noctua branding.

>> No.8835498

>>8835469
No need for a fan at all. If they needed one they'd come with one like the rpi4

>> No.8835521

>>8835498
IO Board is designed with a fan hole in it.
There were reports of bugs in SNES core caused by overheating.

>> No.8835572

>>8835189
I touch the case and it feels hot enough to mark up my wooden desk

>> No.8835579

>>8835469
Even a tiny noctua is only $8, fan noise isn't a concern as much as the good looking cases are all passively cooled

>> No.8835638

>>8835521
Fairly anecdotal, they probably didn't even have a heatsink. The DE10 is rated for 100C operation.

>> No.8835650

>>8835638
They were probably powering their Nanos with 48V power supplies

>> No.8835663

>>8835650
With an inline switch.

>> No.8835764

>>8835650
they were powering their de-10 with actual lightning bolts

>> No.8835946

>>8835764
Close enough, they power it by sliding along the carpet and zapping the chip directly.

>> No.8835953

>>8835469
>no need to overpay for Noctua branding.
The 5v Noctua fan isn't even that expensive compared to chinkshit. It's more about quality construction / bearings that actually last, but whatever floats your boat.

>> No.8836234

>>8835953
in all of my years of pc building and owning toaster desktops and pos laptops

i have never had a single fan fail on me

>> No.8836248

>>8836234
>i have never had a single fan fail on me
I'm pretty sure he's talking about how long the fan stays silent while also still pushing the same amount of air as when you bought it

>> No.8836662

>>8836248
maybe im just deaf

>> No.8836694

>>8835402
Try spraying silicone lube into the fan to make it quieter.

>> No.8836796

>>8836694
You don't understand, I don't want to hear any noise at all.

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8836846

>>8836796
>yfw

>> No.8837940

>>8836796
Get the aluminum case then, I got one and it runs fine. Just know that after you run it for a while you definitely don't want to immediately grab it with your hand or some shit

>> No.8838093

anyone else get the 32x core running?
im using the analog iO board and my colors are off (tint)

>> No.8838135

>>8832883
Call local cell phone repair shops in your area. They generally have the right equipment and might be willing to reflow the port back on.

>> No.8838234

>>8835402
I wired my cheap fan to 3v over some spare pins I found on the board. There's no noise on it like that.

>> No.8838241

>>8832883
What the fuck man how.

>> No.8838252

>>8838241
>>8832928
Nevermind, just saw the reply.

I hope I'm safe - I have mine installed inside a mini ITX HTPC case, there's a mini USB to OTG cable inside so the micro usb port isn't moving at all.

>> No.8838269

>>8830052
>Releases a new core out of nowhere working in a warzone
Mirin' his determination

>> No.8838286

>>8838269
absolutely based honestly

>> No.8838658

I’m curious about incompatibilities between mister cores and real hardware. Is there a website that catalogs any differences?

>> No.8838941

>>8837940
I have one, with no fan. It works fine.

>> No.8838942
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8838942

Is this worth it or should I wait for misteraddons to restock?
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005001417547280.html

>> No.8838945

>>8838234
All fans make noise.

>> No.8839051

>>8838942
oof

ok whether or not its worth it to depends - im assuming thats the stacked ram and 256gb sd included?

500 is nearly double what us mere mortals paid in this thread
if youre gonna use it often and actually play vidya maybe finance it

>> No.8839104

>>8839051
>finance $500
Are you retarded?

>> No.8839138

What's currently the cheapest way to (pre)order a DE10-NANO? On the Terasic website, shipping is over $40 (for a supposedly small item), bringing the price up to over $250.

>> No.8839139

>>8839138
That's the cheapest, anywhere else is scalping.

>> No.8839163

>>8839139
It's sad that the price shot up so dramatically for this. It was apparently only $130 as late as last year.

>> No.8839179

>>8839163
I was on the fence but jumped and got one just in time. Worth it.

>> No.8839221

>>8839104
do you wanna boost your credit score or not?!?

>> No.8839236

>>8839104
>>8839221
>Sir, we have a customer that's trying to finance $500 for an item
>okay... what's the item?
>something called a.. Mister??
>sounds like some pedophile shit. Denied.

>> No.8839257

>>8839236
kek

>> No.8839284

>>8838942
This isn’t too bad to be honest. I just bought one from Terasic and used Ali express for the rest of the parts and this is what it worked out to


Case 55 CAD
Usb extender and analog io board 128mb ram 128 CAD
DE10 shipped 320 cad (including Bluetooth and wifi dongle)

>> No.8839298

>>8838942
Looks fine if you can afford.

>> No.8839310

>>8838942
Reviews seem OK but it looks like the RTC module they include is slightly too big and cracks the connector on the DE10
Is that a common issue?
Are there any US based sellers/websites that ship a full kit other than misteraddons?

>> No.8839318
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8839318

>>8839284
So that’s 592 Canadian vs building it out yourself being 500$ish - so you do save about 100$ in my imaginary money. Not sure if that’s worth it to you in time spent putting things together. I enjoy that stuff so I didn’t mind

>> No.8839320

>>8839310
Yeah that’s what happened to my kit too - they sold me a shit RTC module and instead kits advised not to install it bc it’s not even necessary

>> No.8839326

>>8839320
You bought yours from aliexpress?

>> No.8839343

>>8839310
I wouldn't even bother with the RTC if you connect to network, which you should.

>> No.8839367

>>8839318
I mean to be honest it's not even hard to assemble it. Saving $100 for spending 15 minutes of assembly feels worth it.

>> No.8839371
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8839371

>>8839326
No I bought the nano from Terasic direct, but all the extra shit I bought from ali express and assembled myself instead of buying from those premium Misteraddons sites.

Probably could squeeze a bit more savings out bc not everyone needs the usb or analog board but I wanted a complete little set up

>> No.8839389
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8839389

How come everybody's sold out except for the chinks?

>> No.8839391

>>8835650
I’m never gonna live that down.
Whatever, I did it, I’m a legend.

We get high, we make mistakes, we buy the wrong adapters. We fry electronics. We get them replaced luckily.

>> No.8839420

>>8839371
your case actually looks nice
i lost a bunch of parts for mine like a dumbass, sleep deprivation

>> No.8839426

>>8839367
you could also skip
wifi, bluetooth, rtc
(who tf cares what time it is)

>> No.8839561

>>8839426
If you have wifi, the mister syncs the time on boot-up, so the RTC is pointless. I have the RTC too and can confirm how pointless it is.

>> No.8839607

>>8839561
Did yours break the port?
Also it would be nice to not be reliant on a network all the time

>> No.8839632

>>8839607
Plastic busted on mine, doesn't affect anything.

>> No.8839664

>>8839632
Yeah but it pisses me off when DE10s are so hard to get

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8839885

>>8816141
WTF YOU GUYS SAID THIS WAS A MEME NOW IT DOES SEGA 32X AND PLAYSTATION AND COSTS LIKE $700 NOW YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES

>> No.8839897

>>8839885
Sry pal u got memed.

>> No.8840283

>>8839885
32X is a meme.

>> No.8840324
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8840324

>>8840283
Looks like somebody is not aware of Golf Magazine: 36 Great Holes Starring Fred Couples

>> No.8840734

>>8839607
why is it on the network at all?
its a retro device

i havent plugged my shit into ethernet since i set it up years ago

fuck updates

>> No.8840763

>>8816141
PC-FX core when?

>> No.8840834

>>8840324
Unironically a great golf game, let alone a great 32X game.

>> No.8840846

>>8840283
yeah, I think there's only one good game which is better just playing the arcade version
After Burner btw

>> No.8840849

>>8840763
kek just have them port the ONE shmup and be done with it

>> No.8840897

I stuck a second SDRAM in the other slot how do I test it to make sure its recognized? the SPU option is faded out in the PSX core so I might have done something incorrectly

>> No.8840909
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8840909

>>8840897
what do you mean
my single ram board isn't enough?
how do i get another one?
is the analog output board still supported?

>> No.8840974

>>8840763
Wait for the Virtual Boy core first, they have same CPU and VB is more popular.

>> No.8840986

>>8840909
There was a panic a few months ago that PS1 core might require two SDRAM boards. This turned out to be false, but many people already bought an extra 32MB board just to be sure. So far only the beta Jaguar core requires dual SDRAM due to bandwidth issues with Jag's silly memory bus.
Using two ram boards makes the Analog IO board unusable, so you have to use direct video for analog support.

>> No.8840995

>>8840986
I thought they said the Saturn may require dual SDRAM?

>> No.8841010

>>8840995
srg320 used two ram boards for development, but he intended to try to reduce requirements to just a single board later. Nothing is certain.

>> No.8841034

>>8840986
fuck that

i bought the biggest ram they had for neogeo im not sacking analog out

>> No.8841050

>>8841034
I'm one of the few people still using the GBA 2 player core and a dual RAM set up would stop the "HDMI = Player 1, Analog = Player 2" option from working, which I use. It sucks that there's now a "pick one" situation and I hope that somebody finds out a better solution

>> No.8841131

>>8841050
i have literally never heard of this
i'm checking it out now

>> No.8841168

>>8841131
There's a version for Game Boy/GBC as well. It's neat but I think it's in a rougher shape than the GBA one.

>> No.8841182

>>8841168
how autistic would it be if i got another gamecube, gba player and flashcart to support this?

>> No.8841186

>>8816141
I have an Old Rasp-Pi B just collecting dust. I can't decide what to do with it - either run it as a micro-media centre or an emulation station. The problem with the former is I have a perfectly good 1st Gen AMD4 1800x that's getting replaced when AMD5 comes around so that deals with that. For the latter - I own a large collection of retro consoles in their original format, so barring obscure titles I just use those for a full authentic experience.

>> No.8841190

>>8841182
From what I heard from the GBA guy it could be possible for someone to add functionality for some SNAC adapter to connect a Gamecube Link Cable or another GBA cable, but he wasn't going to do it as he didn't have the tools to test it and also had other shit to do (He's also the Playstation guy)

>> No.8841203

>>8841186
use it for the systems you don't have
i keep my pi3 around for obscure bullshit
or expensive msx systems that i will never actually buy

>> No.8842000
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8842000

>>8841186
You could turn it into a midi generator

>> No.8842092

>>8841190
And after finishing the PS1 core, he will go back to work on the DS core, even though he said it was only for 2d games, I still want it to happen.

>> No.8842379

What controllers do you fags use for NES, SNES and PS1?

>> No.8842403

>>8842379
Retrobit usb megadrive 8button.

>> No.8842408

>>8842403
Doesn't work for SNES or PS1
You need that diamond placement

>> No.8842429

>>8817663
This is why og hardware will forever be king. The emu scene teeters on the whims of fickle autists. One day they want to tackle the project, the next day they'd rather transition

>> No.8842465

>>8842408
Works fine for me, git gud.

>> No.8842531

>>8842379
astro city mini arcade stick
nes mini, snes mini, and ps1 (actual controller)
all using usb adapters

the snac adapters exist but on a crt i see no reason to use one over my regular hub (0 frame delay at 240p suite)

>> No.8842537

>>8842403
i have a retrobit saturn pad
your choice is good too

>> No.8842551

>>8842537
They are amongst the lowest latency as well.

>> No.8842653

>>8842551
How is the retroflag SNES pad?

>> No.8842701

>>8842653
Google mister controller latency.

>> No.8842742

>>8842551
i have the wireless and a wired one
i cannot really tell them apart but i sit close to the tv

>> No.8842806

>>8838658
I'm curious too - i'd be pretty interested if various cores were provably identical to the real hardware with tests and instrumentation rather than "its fpga bro!".

>> No.8842950

>>8842806
It's better than emulation.

>> No.8843035

>>8842806
nothing too major
unless you start deep diving into the half-finished/mostly-finished microcomputers and pc cores


for mainstream systems everything works even analog out besides genesis over AV (and its still playable people just complain)

>> No.8843187

>>8842806
i thought about doing this
but busting the ballsack of guys in warzones splitting hairs comparing color accuracy vs 30 yr old hardware seems a bit... uncouth

>> No.8843331

>>8841186
You could setup pihole on it to remove all ads from anything in your network.

>> No.8843447

>>8843035
I don't understand that Genesis gripe, it has beautiful display on the mister analog out.

>> No.8843561

>>8843447
its a bit warbly over s-video
but i think even the real system is similar over composite honestly

its still playable so i never use hdmi

>> No.8843573

>>8843331
I love pihole, it’s the greatest use of my first-gen Pi Zero W. it also made me realize Microsoft was almost as bad as Facebook with trackers.

>> No.8843609

>>8843561
That's not part of the mister, that's an outboard component. Get a proper display you cunt.

>> No.8843629

>>8842806
There are several tools like mdfourier to compare emulation/FPGA to real hardware.
iirc the NES, SNES, Genesis, and GBA cores are proven 1:1 or as close as humanly possible to real hardware.

>> No.8843662
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8843662

Who the fuck puts a profile pic on aliexpress?

>> No.8843685

>>8843609
no

all the other cores run fine using the analog out @ s-video/composite
im not changing shit its lagless

>> No.8843823

Is there any active projects for Taito F3 boards?

>> No.8844180 [DELETED] 

>>8843662
A tranny I guess

>> No.8844408

Make the X68k core not shit.

>> No.8844840

>>8844408
What's wrong with it?

>> No.8845139

>>8843662
you KNOW who kek
it rhymes with jammies

>> No.8845169

>>8842379
For NES/SNES I like to use the snes/nes classic pad with raphnet adaptater, I also use the Hori Fighting commander as a all round controller for all cores and will use it for PS1 too, except for games that use analog stick, either DS3 or DS4 for them.

>> No.8845279

>>8845169
what games need analog?
ps1 stuff? nights into dreams?
is saturn core cooked that far along already?

>> No.8845309

>>8821691
None of the cores are hardware simulators. You do not want to waste your time trying to simulate hardware, these are ALL emulators written the exact same way you would write any other emulator. You start by describing variables that will work as registers for game data and instructions, you will describe the sequence to load data instructions into them and then what will happen next, rinse repeat until you've logically described an instruction level emulator. Then you add shit so that the image is scaled correctly, inputs can be remapped, shaders, widescreen hacks, and whatever you want to add.
Everything just happens simultaneously on an FPGA with no real resource contention, you usually have to use a shit load of incredibly accurate phase lock loops so that it doesn't process won't do anything unintended, your typical CPU / ASIC has to deal with a billion and one interrupts firing off so that your input, sound, game logic, media loading is being completed at the right time.
I used to do a lot of college shit and EE stuff using FPGA's, anyone who tells you its an accurate "simulator" of real hardware is blowing smoke up your ass. Its an accurate Verilog and VHDL processor with a big old black box of secret sauce between your code and the real hardware.

>> No.8845326

>>8832983
they're small, and honestly without a microscope there's a degree of guesswork in whether or not you've bridged something or have legs that are not actually soldered.
however, you can get it done with a 40 quid 858D rework station. i've done it multiple times.

>> No.8845329

>>8844840
No sound effects on Capcom games. Flickering on Castlevania.

>> No.8845331

>>8845279
I think only Ape Escape requires it ? But some games also play better with the analog stick that's what I wanted to say.
But of course you can only use the dpad.

>> No.8845370

Is the dpad still shit on the 8bitdo sn30 pro wired pad?
Seems like a good all rounder

>> No.8845383

>>8843662
You can sign I. Through a third party like google or Facebook - so his profile pic is just associated by default. If he chose to review anonymously it would have not showed, rookie mistake

>> No.8845474

>>8845329
atleast you got it to run
i don't understand moonrunes
and i am not familiar with the hardware at all

i never got the core to work

>> No.8845479

>>8845370
its acceptable
i use the xbox1 branded one but i needed it to play nice with android as well

for usb controllers the world is your oyster anonkun

>> No.8845975

>>8845479
Yeah but most of them suck ass

>> No.8845980

I'm doing it
I'm buying 2 misters when the aliexpress sale starts

>> No.8846127

>>8845309
There is a significant difference to running emulation on a general purpose CPU. The VHDL describes the logic state which is at the lower level functionally equivalent to what would be implemented in any logic circuit like a VLSI. It is not a simulation it is an equivalent implementation at the logic level, described with a higher level language.

>> No.8846361

>>8845975
true your milage may vary the famicom ones that are BT only suck balls

>> No.8846937

>>8845980
AAA I DID IT
1K DOWN THE DRAIN

>> No.8846970

>>8845980
What's the deal with chink misters? are they de-10 clones produced in china somewhere?

>> No.8846980

>>8846970
I don't think you can clone something like that
They probably are able to stockpile them wholesale since production is in China anyways.

>> No.8847131

>>8846980
They probably get an army of chinamen to order them one at a time for scalping.

>> No.8847524

I hope those retrobit Saturn controllers are good
They seem like the best all rounder for arcade and SEGA cores

>> No.8847860
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>$300+ for an emulator

>> No.8848031

>they patched the 32X core making Alvin and the Chipmunks audio
Obviously that needed to be done but man it's hilarious

>> No.8848102

>>8827725
>the mame guys refuse to fix their Ui despite every single person on the planet bitching im not surprised
Although its still not great, its much better than it used to be

>> No.8848403

>>8847860
And your PC cost less? That's not a great thing to brag about.

>> No.8848434

>>8848102
coinops and never looked back

>> No.8848531

>>8847860
de-10 was 160$ delivered
crt was $5 at a thrift store
addons for ram and iO were like $100

i have neogeo, CPS1(2), pc engine cd, sega cd, bally astrocade, vectrex and other expensive shit running 1:1

its good enough to where i might sell my actual hardware

>> No.8848765

I love the MiSTer so much I'm considering buying a second DE-10 just in case.

>> No.8848771

>>8842806
FPGA is better than software emulators by default since it behaves like the real console would.

>> No.8848801

>>8848771
>emulators
free
>roms
>mister
$$$$$$$$

huh?
free

>> No.8848868

>>8848801
your toaster PC was not free
it's also an objectively worse solution

>> No.8848885

>>8848868
no but i already have a PC as many other people do. as do most mister owners.

>objectively
lol

it's a patricians choice. people with more money to burn are gonna do it, for what? retarded level milliseconds of whatever and proper frame rates who gives a shit. people just wanna play video games. shit like mister is just cancer. overcomplicating a not very complicated thing. too much time on your hands. nothing better to do so you need to nit pick every little detail of the games you're gonna play. just play the games.

>> No.8848901

>>8848531
>its good enough to where i might sell my actual hardware

my god the shilling

>> No.8848943

>>8848885
Lol poorfag cope.

>> No.8848965

>>8848943
and there you have it. you mister fags go on and on about all the details but here it is. you've got too much money and time on your hands. i bet you don't even play your shit. you just build it check how "accurate" the games are and then come here to brag about how many times you nutted all over the thing. lmao.

>> No.8848984

>>8848943
You didn't even present an argument. Will you just cut out the facade, already. Never in all my years have I read a more NPC reply. Be a little bit more aware of the thread before you say some dumb shit like this. A thing to remember in these situations is to thoroughly read through the post you're replying to. Woman, I ought to slap you for this.

>> No.8849056

>>8845474
Mine just werked.

>Installation
>Copy *.rbf to SD card. Copy boot.rom and boot3.vhd to Games/X68000 folder. You can use BLANK_disk_X68000.D88 if you need to make a new FDD image (or for saves).

Best way to load games is through HDF images, but yeah, the core's raw and had no progress since February.

>> No.8849140

>>8848965
>>8848984

Seething poorfags.

>> No.8849161

>>8848771
>by default
Wrong
>>8845309

>> No.8849182

>>8849140
midwit doesn't have an argument you're making misterfags look even worse bro

>> No.8849186

>>8849182
Poorfag take, continue the ad-hominems.

>> No.8849205

>>8848885
You are coping. A regular person who decided this platform wasn't for him would just move along to another thread and discuss the vidya he does like. But NOOOOO, you just have to come in here and shit on Mister because you don't think it's worth the money, as if a few hundred bucks was even worth thinking twice about.

The fact is if you really liked vidya, you would see the advantage of having no additional latency and native display capability to better capture the design parameters of the reproduced systems.

Hit the road, bitch.

>> No.8849207

>>8849186
>lose argument
>guess i'll just keep replying with poorfag

>> No.8849213

>>8849205
so play on original hardware....?

>> No.8849252

>>8849213
Is that the cheaper option?

>> No.8849269

>>8849252
>as if a few hundred bucks was even worth thinking twice about
Anon, if a few hundred bucks is not even worth thinking about, why would you buy mister when the core's aren't 100% reproductions yet, and maybe ever? Youre apparently contradicting yourself here.

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>>8849269
>those grapes taste like shit anyway

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>>8849252
>as if a few hundred extra bucks was even worth thinking twice about
hm...

>> No.8849307

>>8849296
>ugh, saying poorfag isn't working anymore.
>i'll say poorfag but in the form of aesop's fable, that'll work!

>> No.8849324

>>8849307
You are way too invested in shitting up a good thread, I honestly feel bad for you.

>> No.8849334

>>8849324
How am I shitting it up? I came here with valid points. I'm not the one replying with:

>lol cope

>lol poorfag

I'm invested because I think the mister is shit. I'm allowed to think that, biotch.

>> No.8849336

>>8849334
You have never used a mister, your opinion is invalid.

>> No.8849340

>>8849336
Again not addressing any fucking point I've made. More attacks on character. Mister enjoyers everyone.

>> No.8849361

>>8849340
You haven't made a single point other than you think the Mister is too expensive. That's cool bro you do you.

>> No.8849381

>>8849361
It costs money at all is the problem. It's slightly better emulation that you have to pay for. Emulation is well enough. Paying all that money for a SLIGHTLY better than FREE experience seems a little bit retarded to me. Why not pay for the actual 1:1 experience. It's more an argument of value, than it is of being too expensive. I don't see the value.

>> No.8849390

>>8849381
That's cool bro you don't think it's worth the money. You aren't into the concept of platform preservation and probably would never contribute anything other than complaints if you could afford one anyway. Enjoy your emulator.

>> No.8849402

>>8849390
Emulation is platoform preservation though? You're just paying to do it. That's cool though, enjoy paying to emulate.

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>>8849381

>> No.8849406

>>8849402
No worries, I will and I will also enjoy paying the developers.

>> No.8849414

>>8849406
The (you)'s I've harvested from this thread. Developers of?

>> No.8849471

>>8849161
Not I didn't say better or even equal to thr actual hardware. Nothing else besides real hardware is 100% accurate. That being said, FPGA operates like real hardware would, with logic gates running processes in parallel. This fact alone already makes it better than softwate emulation in all aspects besides price.

>> No.8849498

>>8849471
Exactly the point. Aside from price. It's a lot of money to pay for a small return in the difference vs. emulation. Honestly, how what are the differences in playing SMW on my PC vs. mister? Is 500 dollars worth, 400, 300? Value is a subjective thing, sure; but to pay that for such fractional increases in performance is wild. Just play on original hardware at that point.

>> No.8849525

>>8849381
I'll try to explain the value MiSTer provides, if you will allow me. I believe most people who own one will agree.

It's about getting out of a rabbit hole one finds itself in with emulation. You see, once upon a time I was a completely ignorant person who enjoyed playing games in ZSNES on a keyboard and stretching everything to 16:9 with filters. But then someday your standards start to increase. You start learning about input lag, audio lag, aspect ratios, cycle accuracy, and nothing ever feels as "it should". The more you learn about the technical aspects of emulating old games, the more emulation doesn't seem to cut it, even though you became obsessed with tinkering to the point where you spend more time checking settings than actually playing games. Software emulation just can't reach the ideals you've set in your mind.

So you turn to real hardware. Maybe you tried turning on your old console from your childhood. Maybe you went and bought a console you never had just to try it out, and it feels magical. Shit just works, games just play and there's no settings to mess about with. Then you decide: real hardware really is the way to go. But there's a problem, mostly being how costly it is to have a full setup with all the consoles you could possibly want + flashcarts for all the systems. And then there's all sorts of mods and expensive upscalers you'd have to get to be able to enjoy pristine video quality you've used to get on emulators. It becomes exhausting.

So here comes the MiSTer. It's the perfect middle ground for the schizo retro gamer like me. It's a device that just plays games. They play with zero lag, zero audio delay and with cycle accuracy. There are no settings to mess about except scaling, inputs etc. The upfront cost may seem expensive, but it's MUCH cheaper than buying all of the shit you'd have to buy otherwise if you didn't have it. I can turn it on and be playing a game in 5 seconds. It. just. works.

>> No.8849616

For me it's not having to pay some faggot $300 for a SNES, another kike $250 for a flash cart, $50 for shart cables, and $450 for a retrochink 5x

>> No.8849675

>>8849498
https://youtu.be/ike6HlKL9IU

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8849681

What emulation station is this in the background? It's driving me insane.

>> No.8849737

>>8849675
This is what emulatards don't understand. MiSTer is trying to compete with actual hardware, not emulation devices.

>> No.8849819

>>8849498
It’s smaller than your PC and uses a fraction of the power to play games as well as the best emulators. If that appeals to you then get it.

>> No.8849826

>>8849737
Original hardware isn't consistant or immortal either. I have quite a collection and sometimes things just fail. Silicon can just die after decades of power cycles and tiny static discharges. FPGA can replace components like the infamous ZX Spectrum ULA https://opencores.org/projects/zx_ula

In time these replacements will become more prevalent and this for me is the primary goal of these projects. As for authenticity, retro systems are typically modded for display clarity and have an SD reader. When the FPGA alternatives are functionally identical and far more convenient it makes sense to prune that collection out to the suckers.

And yes the FPGA systems are typically much closer to the source hardware than emulation can be simply because they are deterministic, which is not possible on a general purpose system. Sure some implementations are WIP but some are verifiably accurate and in time, the rest will be too.

Emulation is fine for casual gamers etc but if you want the real feel with convenience you can't go past FPGA.

>> No.8849849

>>8849334
>How am I shitting it up?

what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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>>8849414

>> No.8849903

>>8849681
Rpi you goober
You can even see the logo

>> No.8849914

8849414
(You)

>> No.8850043

>>8849471
Sounds like you don't know how modern x86 or arm works, but they too run logic gates in parallel. The only difference is timing is harder, but still entirely possible for old systems when we have 4GHz clockspeeds to work with.

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>>8849296
Why don't you actually respond instead of shitposting? Seriously, if money is no object and your goal is accuracy, why would you use anything other than real hardware? I came to this thread to get an understand of what mister offers because I haven't used one, but only poster I can see ITT that has offered any insight into them for non EEs is >>8845309
Asinine ideas like >>8848771 are vague marketing taglines, who the fuck would just believe that.

>> No.8850056

>>8850050
Pal the only thing I can tell you is that MiSTer FPGA is not for you in any way. You are a consoomer looking to play your bing bing wahoos. MiSTer and other FPGA projects are so much more than that and if it doesn't appeal to you yet, then it never will. You do you.

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>>8850056
>if you *don't* consoom product before understanding what it offers you are the consoomer
what the fuck?

>> No.8850159

>>8850145
I'm telling you it's no good for you. You will just be one of those consoomers who goes on the forums and asks a shitton of retarded questions and complains about everything, and never contributes fixes, bug reports or patreon. In short, you're not welcome.

>> No.8850431

Fuck I can't wait for the Saturn core
I was gonna buy one literally the same day it got announced so I held off.
I even bought the retrobit Saturn controllers for it.
Goddamn putler delaying all the retro shit coming from Ukraine. He could have waited until the Saturn core was released.

>> No.8850438

>>8850043
I'm talking about how the games run. A software emulator is sequential, that's why things like audio delay exist, audio can't be processed at the same time as video. In FPGA this doesn't exist.

>> No.8850527

>>8850043
Sadly, no. x86's ability to do hard realtime is HUGELY lacking. There are hard realtime kernels for generic PCs but they are considerably slower than the regular kernels we use because they have to single thread and spin lock constantly to guarantee timing. What you say is perfectly possible for a generic computer, just sadly not the 2022 "PC" specification. Hell, if Amiga hadn't died you'd probably HAVE all the genlocks, DMA and synchronisation hardware you need to have a "perfect" emulator today, but sadly the IBM compatible standard won and they never thought that was necessary.

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>wanna get myself one of those 3d printed CRT cases for an ipad retina display to use with my MiSTer
>50 USD shipping from the US due to mandatory DHL means I can only justify the order if I get at least enough parts to make two, and the subtotal before ordering the LCDs (another 200 AUD) comes out to 250 AUD = $450
Might as well buy a fucking PC monitor at that point.

Can you guys recommend a decent high DPI 4:3 monitor for use with the MiSTer, ideally something lightweight, or is that me asking for that which doesn't exist?

>> No.8850589

>>8850534
Just use a normal 16:9 the mister has some good modes that look great. Get a tv as well.

>> No.8850639

>>8849525
Yep, schizo retro gamer here, and this describes me 100%.

One difference is I bought a couple Analogue consoles first, then I wanted more and realised it was going to get expensive, so I sold the Analogue consoles and built a MiSTer with money to spare.

>> No.8851282

>>8850534
Just buy one pre-assembled from Aliexpress and hope it doesn't come too mangled. Mine was crooked, removing the glued display wasn't fun.

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>>8850534
>>8851282
Oh yeah, and if you do have the display you can buy just the case and the board I think. It's REALLY lightweight though, so much you have to worry about not knocking it off simply by moving the cable as the stand has no real grip on it.

>> No.8852157

>>8851282
Link?

>> No.8852160

>>8850431
The dev is working hard even despite the war. He releases a 32X core a few days ago.

>> No.8852205

>>8852157
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003500439981.html

Word of warning, on top of the crooked display it came lacking the internal speaker(s?), a power supply and a HDMI cable. Display was otherwise flawless and the package was well protected, but it's still a lottery at the end of the day.

The other guy who also sells those monitors and has a gazillion sales on Ali ships it with a slow mini HDMI cable that can't handle 2K though. IIRC the 2x HDMI model takes less energy, but trying to power it from the Mister's USB is a bad idea anyway.

>> No.8852538 [DELETED] 

>>8850159
this


no darkies or darkie-type behaviors whatsoever - if you cant drag and drop rbf then fuck off

>> No.8852543

>>8852160
>that English
slav detected
welcome brother

>> No.8852664

I've always thought of getting a Mister, because half the stuff I try to run on MAME doesn't run. There are arcade games that I really want to play but it's impossible for me to play the at the moment, and I'm wonder if mister would be my solution.

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>>8852205
Kek at the reviews
Who's this other guy? What HDMI cable should I use then? Also is that a headphone out jack or audio in?
Would these play well with 480p/720p output from an OSSC?

>> No.8852694

>>8852664
its not drag and drop for acade stuff
it will take some fiddling

cps1/2 & neogeo run fine
specific arcade titles though your milage may vary - but i doubt people are buying the jamma mister shit for no reason

>> No.8852696

>>8852690
why are you doing this?
just use any decent 1080p panel with better refresh rate if youre doing hdmi?

i just sold my elite series for $100

>> No.8852703

>>8852696
Those ipad displays are very low latency and tiny enough for me to play with my mister and ps2 in bed

>> No.8852734

>>8852160
You know the retro stuff is good when it's made by some enthusiast slav and he doesn't let a war stop him from continuing the project.

>> No.8852748

>>8852690
>Who's this other guy?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001689746001.html
I'll stress this again for others, this is the guy who ships them with the HDMI cable unable to pull 2K, but at least you get a power supply.
>What HDMI cable should I use then?
Any 4k Mini HDMI to HDMI cable should do.
>Also is that a headphone out jack or audio in?
Headphone jack.
>Would these play well with 480p/720p output from an OSSC?
Wouldn't know, only used it on Mister.

>>8852664
Problem with Mister is the arcade stuff is really drip fed because of all the hardware differences. Sure you got all the big stuff, Neo Geo, CPS1/2, fighters, some shmups, but it's hurting on variety, we only got Sega 16 recently for instance. Might cover most of the stuff you want though, look it up.

>> No.8852783

>>8852703
>ipad 2
>low latency

citation needed
i used one for years as an emubox in my classroom but - sold it years ago

a projector on the ceiling could be just as comfy if youre doing rpg

>> No.8852818

>>8852783
He's talking about the screen

>> No.8852820

>>8852690
Lmfao let me guess, brazil?

>> No.8852835

I like how native peripherals can interface with mister, pretty cool.

>> No.8852842

>>8852783
The retrorgb dude did a lagtest on the retina display + chink driver board and they run at ~3ms latency.
There's a reason MiSTer devs (as well as the retrotink guy) have created presets for its weird 2K display: aside from low lag and being fairly fucking cheap, they offer very high pixel density for nice scanline reproduction, they're teensy and easy to build into small setups especially if you want to make some kind of novelty arcade cabinet, and the 4:3 orientation makes for no black bars or scaling issues once you dial in the settings properly.

>> No.8852850

>>8852842
I just checked that. It's 2ms latency and it handles all refresh rates from 50-63Hz. This is literally too good for the price, I'm gonna buy a few.

>> No.8852871

>>8852748
I'm gonna buy the VGA version, the housing looks thicker and better made, plus it has full size hdmi instead of the gay mini shit

>> No.8852884

>>8852871
I'm thinking about that. The mini HDMI one supposedly can run off 5V, which means a portable MiSTer setup with an external battery bank suddenly becomes a reality. That sounds interesting.

>> No.8852910

>>8852884
The driver board isn't running the laser bear firmware so I don't know how the resolution support will be

>> No.8852980

>>8852910
I was checking the MiSTer forum posts about these monitors and it seems like none of the chinese ones have Laser bear's firmware. I'm confused now.

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Based nip providing hard numbers

>> No.8853054

>>8851282
>>8852205
>>8852690
>>8852748
>>8852850
>>8852871
>>8852884
Just to highlight something, cant actually confirm it all but be aware: as >>8852910 & >>8852980 have pointed out, Laser Bear have put together a modified firmware that improves the compatibility +/- performance but I think it only works on the newest revision of the driver board intended for installation in their CRT/VESA monitor casings. If the board or pre-assembled monitor you're looking at on aliexpress has VGA or 2x mini-HDMI ports it's an older model and probably won't support the better firmware.

I've been looking but I can't find a preassembled monitor, kit, or even a casing with ports cut to match the newer board so unless youre in a position to buy a laserbear case it may be prohibitive/problematic if you want to ensure the best performance.
Please correct me if I'm wrong though, because I really don't want to have to pay 50 USD for fucking DHL to ship bits of plastic to be from the US because of something this dumb.

>> No.8853071

>>8853054
I doubt the laser bear firmware is that big a deal
The reviews show it working with the mister just fine

>> No.8853320

>>8853071
Yeah but are those people with proper configurations?
eg. Do they have a framebuffer active, are they using a console's proper resolution and have they tried systems with wonky refresh rates? And is the lag any different? Because the lag test numbers come from users with the newer board.

Do you want to wait for this thing to arrive and find it's way more limited than advertised, then have to spend a month and another thirty bucks on the right driver board- and then have to jury rig a new case for the damn thing? Those are my concerns, aside from losing the chinese sweatshop lottery and getting some half-baked piece of shit of you have to spend time fixing up like >>8852205

>> No.8853606

>>8853320
It's really not that complicated anon
The older driver boards take the weird refresh rates and that's all that really matters.

>> No.8853661

>>8853606
i still am lost on this
>component cable/av-adapter $30
>real crt $free or $5

i just dont see the point lol
youre gonna diceroll $80 on aliexp and get some strange junk

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>>8852842
my crt runs @ 0ms latency

>> No.8853739

>>8853669
I play on CRT but to be fair Mister is still pretty good even on a decent flat panel. Going back to emu is a nightmare though, I have a Megadrive mini and it's basically unplayable after playing Mister.

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>>8853669
>implying you didn't change the outcome by measuring it.

>> No.8853787

>>8850534
I guess you'd be better off buying a used iPad 3 (first one with retina display) and disassembling the screen yourself. There are quite a few videos on YT on that.

>> No.8853818

>>8852734
You know the war is a propaganda nothingburger when civilians in the country just carry on with their trivial hobbies and still have internet access, albeit with certain social media sites like Twitter blocked.

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8853841

>>8853787
Well actually I just pulled the trigger on the chinkshit board, because I found a downloadable case model I can order from a local printshop
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4721767

Without learning CAD, I've now just got to find a way to rig something like these up to that
https://core-electronics.com.au/stereo-enclosed-speaker-set-3w-4-ohm.html

>> No.8853942

>>8853054
A lot of OSD settings don't work, including the aspect ratio changes, but for the Mister it's fine as you just output 16:9. And I'm almost sure the first latency measurements were before this custom firmware even existed, don't recall the guy ever bringing up latency performance.

I'm on the same spot as you by the way, can't order from the guy without shipping tearing me a new one. Does he even sell the board separately or make the firmware available anywhere?

>> No.8853945

>>8853942
Also, I have the 2x Mini HDMI model, could be that the model with VGA input does have working aspect ratio switching though I suspect it doesn't.

>> No.8853953

>>8853739
Same. I don't wanna deal with Retroarch ever again and standalone emulators are laggy garbage.

>> No.8853965

>>8853942
>>8853945
Wait, I just woke up and I'm a fucking idiot, the 6x modelines used with it are in fact 4:3 and Mister shows up fine. So yeah, disregard that.

https://github.com/atrac17/MiSTer_Integer_Modelines/tree/main/ini/pre-cfg%20ini/6x%20Integer%20Scale

>> No.8853987

I bought 4 of them, 3 VGA and 1 2xhdmi since it can run of 5v USB so I can power it off my laptop
Fuck you guys for making me consoom yet again

>> No.8854002

>>8853987
You're just a hoarder, anon. I did consider getting a second one for my PC, but it's so tiny and I'd have to get a real stand for it to be in reading distance. You guys know any good stands for this thing by the way? I'd imagine generic tablet gripping ones would work.

>> No.8854047

Doom 32X Resurrection is fucking awesome. Smooth 30fps action with full screen view and recomposed FM music.

>> No.8854108

I saw those monitors have a touch version as well. Made me intrigued if it'd work on Windows for DS/3DS emulation.

>> No.8854110

>>8853841
Cool, about the speakers I'd just ask the printshop to print you some boxes so you could just place the speakers inside and fix them to the screen using double sided tape or hot glue

>> No.8854141

>>8854047
Is it though?
Don’t you have access to actual doom?

>> No.8854471

>>8854141
I can see how an actual console port could be better to play on MiSTer instead of a PC port which is meant to be played with a keyboard.

>> No.8855302

>>8854471
Wut

>> No.8855407

>>8854047
Where do you get full screen? I get a small border

>> No.8855424

>>8850534
Find a retro gamer group and make friends with the guy who has contacts at e-waste places. Most of them don't allow salvage, but will turn a blind eye to people in the know. You can snag a very good CRT without paying scalper prices this way.

>> No.8855468

Some dude is currently recreating Donkey Kong arcade's analog audio circuits so it does not rely on prerecorded samples. Pretty cool.

>> No.8855879

Why is the 486 core slower than an actual 486?

>> No.8855880

>>8855879
Why do you think?

>> No.8855946

>>8855880
Because it is? Its a documented problem

>> No.8855950

>>8855946
It's fast enough to play an authentic version of DOOM, what more do you need?

>> No.8855981

>>8855950
Build engine games

>> No.8855991
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8855991

I fucking love mine. Easy to hook up to a CRT, no input lag or audio delay, very easy to setup with just about any controller

If youre interested in Neo Geo I'd say its almost worth it for that alone. A mister is probably less than a neo geo and flast cart alone, not to mention the other consoles it covers

>> No.8855995

>>8855981
Too bad pal.

>> No.8856119

>>8855879
It's a 486SX, no FPU not enough noodle to fit it in.

>> No.8856201
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8856201

Any of you guys use one of these prebuilt aliexpress GBScontrols?
Its actually cheaper than getting all the required components to build one
There has to be a catch

>> No.8856210

>>8856201
For a MiSTer? No point it can output HDMI/VGA/Component already.

>> No.8856289

>>8856201
Also interested.
Motion adaptive deinterlacing is something I've wanted to try myself for a while but forced-DHL rears its ugly head again such that tracking down the bits to make my own GSC or buying a preassembled one from the AIO guy made it less favorable than just eating the cost of ordering a retrotink 5x (also forced DHL, on top of the forced DHL I'd have to pay for to order a set of those HD retrovision cables).
Can the US kindly get its shit together so we can have this pandemic be over already, please?

>> No.8856387

>>8855991
kek hows the controller?
i had the neoXgold version and ended up selling

i use an astro-city mini arcade stick now instead - the button placement was bothersome for me desu

>> No.8856393

>>8856201
probably wont ever arrive at that price
we are approaching the end of international purchasing power

several titles i ordered from japan didn't arrive it seems sellers are shitposting items they don't actually have and stealing money

>> No.8856608

>>8856393
Bitfunx is a pretty well known seller on aliexpress
Its not like the gbs control is very expensive

>> No.8856625

>>8856608
if it seems too good to be true i avoid
the gbs-c with the 240p downscaler for crt was nearly 200$ last time i was looking into it

roll the dice at your own peril anonkun
im done with the chinks

>> No.8856630

>>8856625
>nearly 200
What
All you need is the gbs board ($20-25), the arduino (10-15), and maybe a clock gen ($10)

>> No.8856692

>>8856625
>buttfunx
Wouldn't do it out of principle. The only product of there's that I wouldn't have a problem with people opting for is the ps2 sata adapter. Only because it's lack of parts that buttfunx could skimp on.

>> No.8856716
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8856716

can someone give a quick rundown on the x86000?

i cant get ANY computer cores to function
x86k just sits at the load screen even when selecting and rebooting the "fpga starter pack" files

speccy and c64 just sit at the basic screen
are you supposed to type or,.....?

nothing runs

>> No.8856719

>>8856692
What's the problem with them?

>> No.8856727

>>8856630
tard anons like myself just want a plug and play solution not a C-code arduino shitfest
70+ shipping you might as well get one fully cooked and tested

i've long since given up on the idea of hdmi to av conversion though
a simple chink adapter is acceptable for media consumption

for gaming though its a rabbit hole i gave up on

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8856738

>>8856716
c64 and speccy just hang on this screen
nothing loads when selected

>> No.8856867

>>8856719
Apart from being a chink cloner?
>stolen designs from both open sourced and non open source designs
>literally copy pasted documentation
>on more complex products, lower quality parts. quality concerns
>owner pays influencers to shill his products, claiming that he was the one that designed them.

>> No.8856876

>>8856738
You have to load the media just like on a real computer. Try RTFM.

>> No.8856930

>>8856876
kek
i understand that,
for x86k i put disk 1 in disk0
and for disk 2 i put it in "disk1":
hit reset
nothing

>> No.8857195

What's the current best updater script to use?

>> No.8857206

>>8857195
update_all.sh

>> No.8857240

>>8856867
>stolen
>open source design
Don't be retarded
The only quality concerns I would have is their PSUs.
That just looks like a regular gbs board with some kind of add-on board on top with an oled screen and extra inputs like composite.
Anyway I bought it, I only need it for the deinterlacer

>> No.8857275

>>8856867
Don't care if it's stolen, living in brazil I have no other choice. Nothing besides aliexpress ships to this dumpster fire.

>> No.8857280

>>8856716
Loading HDFs on the Mister's menu should just werk, no other input necessary. See also >>8849056.

>> No.8857283

>>8857240
>Don't be retarded
lmao, sure. So they do it do devices like the OSSC, which the design isn't copyrighted. Which is legally fair, sure. What they also do is copy-paste the documentation and manuals to it which aren't legal for them to distribute.
>The only quality concerns I would have is their PSUs.
Absolutely.
>That just looks like a regular gbs board with some kind of add-on board on top with an oled screen and extra inputs like composite.
How do you think the chinks get the prices down so much? You are skimping on lower quality parts. Cheaply sourced capacitors whose shelf life is dubious, cheaply sourced connectors which are important to be robust enough if you're going to be plugging shit in and out of constantly. Etc. etc.

If they have no fucking shame in copying an opensource design, but then copypasted copyrighted manuals and branding, what makes you think they give a shit about making a device that is actually electrically sound? I'm not implying it's going to burn down your house or anything, but both the practices of the company and the product itself are shit for valid reasons. Ultimately I don't give a shit because I know people have no other choice when it comes to sourcing parts in different countries. But I least try to make people aware the Buttfunx shouldn't get your money if you can help it.
>>8857275
Totally fair Brazil-bro, I understand.

>> No.8857285

Stopped going to the discord because if the cancer, is the new analog/digital io hybrid board out yet?

>> No.8857287

>>8857285
It's not a real hybrid, it's just the AGS6200 glued onto the board.

>> No.8857497

>>8856387
The Wii one was made before SNK went to shit - It's got the same build quality as the original stick

I have the neo geo x one too and it's garbage

>> No.8857559

>>8857283
>copying an open source design
Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?

>> No.8857580

>>8857559
Reading comprehension not your strong suit, huh?

>> No.8858045
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8858045

sorry anon
i sold my mister and iO board for 660+$

guy lived 50 minutes away so shipping with tracking was so cheap


ill miss you misterfags
so long

>> No.8859089

>>8857287
more info, pls

>> No.8859194

>>8856393
So it's not just me?
I bought a GBA from Japan in like October and it never arrived. The eBay seller offered free shipping and though they marked it Sent after like a month I suspect they saw the international postage cost vs what I paid and gambled on me forgetting before the PayPal dispute grace period ended [I absolutely forgot].

>> No.8859310

>>8858045
>one less retard.gif

>> No.8860492

>>8859089
It's exactly the same as hunting down one of the functional HDMI to VGA adapters as far as I can tell, it doesn't solve the loss of a second video output.

>> No.8861408

>>8859194
i got "ya it must've gotten lost lol"
check the japan sellers feedback -
if they have any negatives in the last 3 months its now a diceroll

contact your card issuer they will reverse the charges fuck that.


>>8859310
calm down ya balmy cunt
i'll still be here to provide retail libraries (complete) and advice

i kept the s-video output board for when the prices come back down to earth

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8861606

>>8816220
Mega Duck is online

>> No.8861942

>>8861408
Oh it's you Mr composite crawl autism.

>> No.8862006

>>8861942
kek no

i did mention the slight warble (without composite blend enabled) on the genesis core

but if you don't sit right in front of the crt its hardly noticeable

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8863324

>>8854110
Actually yeah, good idea. Thanks.
I was going to secure them to the monitor casing, but after considering the complications associated with speakers when swapping to and from tate mode (or if I decide not to use them at some point, eg. if they sound like shit)- it's probably better they're not fixed to the thing. So until such time I can be assed designing my own custom stand I'll probably chuck them in boxes to sit alongside the monitor.

To wit, I'm gonna drill a hole in the backside of the 3D printed casing and mount either a 1/4" stereo connector or paired RCA sockets in there, hook those up internally to the speaker output, and then I have a clean-looking and robust solution no matter what happens.

>> No.8863653

Well done boys and girls, the thread had endured for two weeks!

>> No.8863859

See you in the next gen, SiSTers!

>> No.8863934

They added rumble support for game boy, game boy advance and ps1 core.

There is also SNK68 core coming
https://twitter.com/darren__o/status/1520115987797843968

Nice updates !