/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8801213]

what happens when non-Japanese were allowed to develop a NES game

[Anonymous No.8801507]

Western devs are truly fucking awful. They had a golden period around 1994-2006 (and that was mainly PC gaming), but then lost their way. Elden Ring recently shit on anything western dev made this year alone, with western devs making million dollar shovelware like Destiny and Anthem.

[Anonymous No.8801510]

>>8801213
Battletoads

[Anonymous No.8801517]

Well, M.C. Kids is one of the best western-made platformers of all time so there's that.
There's worse stuff on personal computers.

[Anonymous No.8801518]

>>8801213
The Elder Scrolls: Homealone is an underrated Bethesda game.

[Anonymous No.8801527]

>>8801507
Its the money, fool. Japs creating a bad game will shame their family, ultimately resulting in seppuku. Wh*toids know no honour anymore, so there is no shame in exploiting capitalism to create a mediocre product for the impressionable masses.

O tempora, o mores!

[Anonymous No.8801531]

>>8801507
Western devs made brilliant games like Outer Wilds and Blasphemous though.

[Anonymous No.8801593]

>>8801531
Not that anon
>Outer Wilds
Happens to be one of the two good games that studio has published in 6 years
>Blasphemous
Instead of "Western" it should be "American" desu

[Anonymous No.8801601]

>>8801531
Blasphemous is definitely a good game, but it's just another SOTN redux

[Anonymous No.8801603]

>>8801507
>Elden Ring recently shit on
I want to say that I see what you did there, but you're not clever or smart enough to have done this on purpose.

[Anonymous No.8801612]

>>8801603
>Elden Ring is bad because...... IT JUST IS, OKAY!!?!?!

Western games are bad.

[Anonymous No.8801650]

>>8801507
Underrated post. It's true.
Imagine if western devs had been given the SuperFX chip instead of the Japanese. They'd have probably tried to make the next call of duty on it or something.
Boooring!

[Anonymous No.8801706]

>>8801507
i don't completely agree because i like a lot of Western games but the Japanese do seem to make things that are more timeless

[Anonymous No.8801905]

>>8801507
The west's obsession with realism is a much greater poison than it's ever been given credit.

[Anonymous No.8801906]

>>8801531
Those are only good games if you have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.8802161]

>>8801213
Home Alone is a unique game design if nothing else. The Japanese rarely get this adventurous.

[Anonymous No.8802182]

>>8801507
Westerners develop games backwards, they create a setting and characters and plot and then they create a game to fit them as an afterthought.

[Anonymous No.8802194]

>>8801213
Wasn't this the first game that *the* Todd Howard worked on? Sure as a playtester, but the beginning of his stellar career.

[Anonymous No.8802242]

>>8801507
Elden ring is fucking cancerous garbage asset flip game, kys. Jesus fucking christ.

[Anonymous No.8802243]

>>8801213
the Amiga, DOS, and 16-bit console versions of this are all way better. no idea what happened with this NES version.

[Anonymous No.8802273]

>>8801612
>reused engine from 2009 demon's souls, which probably was a modified ps1 armored core engine
>reused models, AI, and animations from dark soulsborne
>still the same repetitive combat gameplay we've had since demon souls
>empty open world with static copy paste enemy placements and no emergent events
>barebones enemy interactions, barebones crafting system, barebones world interactions, barebones everything, all you do is killing braindead copy paste enemies in the same static positions 5 million times before killing braindead bosses with broken hitboxes and infinite stamina because fromshit lazily recycled their ai and attack patterns from soikiro
>gets 11/10 from paid journos
Elden snooze is the epitome of creative bankruptcy and you're only okay with it because its not an ubishart game.

[Anonymous No.8802275]

>>8801650
Argonaut was made of Brits though.

[Anonymous No.8802286]

>>8801213
The Western presence on NES was generally nonexistent because Western studios were tiny, developing for the computers mostly. After Atari's crash, not many console devs survived - Activision comes to mind first, but even they worked primarily with computer software. LGN was the obvious exception, but they were a toy manufacturer with vidya as a side business.
This only started shifting with Sega Genesis, because SoA really wanted Western games, especially sports games, which is where Electronic Arts came into picture.

[Anonymous No.8802329]

>>8802286
Europe seemed to have more going on because Rare/Ocean/Software Creations all had competently made games of decent to good quality. I do agree a lot of the North American NES stuff was pretty low budget and shoddy.

[Anonymous No.8802348]

>>8802286
>This only started shifting with Sega Genesis, because SoA really wanted Western games, especially sports games
No shit, Sega barely had any Japanese sports games they could localize. The vast majority of Mega Drive sports games are Western-developed with I think 20 or fewer being Japanese.

[Anonymous No.8802378]

>>8802329
Europe was PC gaming central and was completely unaffected by the videogame crash (because they had no Atari presence in the first place), so all those devs worked with computers primarily and moonlighted as console devs now and then. Although even some of their games, like Ultima, were ported by the Japanese developers.

[Anonymous No.8802601]

what happens when there is an obvious bait thread

[Anonymous No.8802605]

>>8801507
thanks but im still not going to play that

[Anonymous No.8803185]

>>8801517
>M.C. Kids is one of the best western-made platformers of all time
because it shamelessly rips off mario 2 / 3

[Anonymous No.8803202]

>>8803185
Why don’t you go ahead and take the AVGN’s dick out of your mouth and you’ll see that it’s fucking nothing like any SMB game besides “hurr, jump and pick up blocks”

[Anonymous No.8803561]

>>8802242
Filtered

[Anonymous No.8803646]

>>8801510
great post, can we get some more good western NES games to counter this negativity?
because i can't really come up with any lmao