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Oh yeah, this happened...

>> No.8788584

>>8788583
Underrated, except for the backtracking parts those can fuck off.

>> No.8788672

>>8788583
played this game with 7 when it was banned in germany and loved every second of it

>> No.8788704

Decent on its own, fun after expansions, should not have been called “Quake”. It has it’s 25th anniversary this year, doesn’t it?

>> No.8788713

>oh look another industrial style level

>> No.8788719

Quake 4 is more memorable than Quake 2.
Every other Id Tech 2 game is more memorable than Quake 2.

>> No.8788789

>>8788583
I still have a sealed copy sat on a shelf

>> No.8788827

>>8788583
I enjoyed it. It was no Quake 1, but it was still hella fun.

>> No.8788829

Its no Quake III Arena

>> No.8788830

>>8788719
Quake 4 has the Stroggification scene and a few cool guns while the actual gameplay suffers from those mid-2000s tropes.

>> No.8788836

The only region locked PC game I've ever seen. Who the fuck thought that was either a good or an useful idea?

>> No.8788839
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8788839

Why no muzzle flash tho

>> No.8788841

Better than fucking Half-Shit or Failo.

>> No.8788927
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8788927

>>8788584
>backtracking parts
Filtered.

>> No.8788931
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8788931

>>8788841

>> No.8788941

>>8788583
I love Quake 2. Strogg is such a cool setting.
Also, the railgun.

>> No.8788960

>>8788927
Yes, I admit it! I'm filtered by backtracking with no enemies and no fucking music.

>> No.8788963

>>8788931
I'm sorry your "gaming" experiences are limited to style over substance trash modern gaming has brainwashed you into believing in. Maybe if you'd play exclusively 8/16bit games for a few years, you'd start to understand how fucking shit nearly all games from the mid-90s and onward are.

>> No.8788991

>>8788583
is not that bad at least on psx

>> No.8789009

>>8788963
meds.

>> No.8789017

Playing through it and enjoying so far. Gibbing enemies while they're doing their death animation feels great.

>> No.8789029

>>8788583
I really don't get why so many hate it. It's a fun game

>> No.8789048
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8789048

>>8788583
Yes.

>> No.8789110

>>8788583
It was really fun.

>> No.8789115

>>8788841
Both Half-life and Quake 2 are good and fun games

>> No.8789127

>>8789048
quake II on psx gud
quake II on pc bad

simpel as

>> No.8789260

>>8789127
this, also n64 kino

>> No.8789278

>>8789127
you couldn't be more mistaken. pc is the best one

>> No.8789321

>>8788704
based

>> No.8789330

If you stripped it of the Quake name, I don’t think people would sperg out about it so much.

>> No.8789338

>>8789330
Interesting theory that requires an alternate universe to test so i guess we'll just have to file it under pointless post

>> No.8789353

>>8789127
>>8789048
Why? I never played the ps1 version.

>> No.8789375

>>8789330
I don’t speak for everyone else but it would’ve at least helped me. It’s a “sequel” only in the sense that it’s another 3D first person shooter. As is, Q2 has about as much in common as Q1 as Q1 does with Doom.

>> No.8789387

>>8789048
Console shooters are a travesty.

>> No.8789391

>>8788931
Can someone please explain this meme? What's wrong with Half-Life?

>> No.8789409

>>8789391
Someone shitposted against it so much that it inspired several copycat shitposters.
>>8789387
At the least it’s one of the few console ports with official mouse support.

>> No.8789417

>>8788672
>videogames
>getting banned
Do Germcucks really?

>> No.8789432

>>8789417
You could buy it over there. id wasnt allowed to advertise and neither were stores. It couldnt be put on shelves and the person had to ask for it at the counter.

>> No.8789450
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it's a good game, with a great soundtrack

>> No.8789649
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8789649

>>8788583
and is a good game alf clone piece of shit!

>> No.8789668
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8789668

>>8788719
Quake 2 is flawed and dull, but it's God compared to Quake 4, which is the epitome of dark age 2000s FPS, and is the rock bottom of id Software.

Save me Romero.

>> No.8789675

>>8789668
(note: id didn't even make Q4, but it's still their property and is a symbolic monument to how bad the genre became)

>> No.8789678

>>8789668
Funny how Romero never made anything above average after he left id.

>> No.8789686

>>8789678
Romero and Carmack are Lennon and McCartney. Together they did amazing stuff. Apart, the latter did neat and serviceable pop stuff that was skillfully written but not terribly inspired (Wings/latter day Id stuff), while the former went up his own butt and mainly produced highly creative trainwrecks without any solid grounding. (Plastic Ono Band/Daikatana + etc).

>> No.8789693

>>8788583
What a terrible thread. Quake II was a huge hit and had great multiplayer.

>> No.8789776

>>8788583
>Oh yeah, this happened...

It's the reason why we have OpenGL driver support in videocards.

>> No.8789798

>>8788583
Quake II is the first game I played with my RIVA TNT card back in 1998. Also the first FPS I played using WASD.

>> No.8789843

>>8789798
Same on everything except I was Voodoo Banshee.

>> No.8789876

>>8788583
Leave Quake 2 alone please

>> No.8790138

>>8789668
>using meme that romero hates
He loved Q2 you underage shitposter, the man lost half of his dev time at Q2DM because every time there it was a new map, mod or skin.
Also, the only thing that is holding him of working on his unit, since he said that he had plans for a quake 2 expansion if he had the permission for it, is the hinted remaster at the end of the year to mark Q2 25th anniversary.

>> No.8790142

>quake 1, pinnacle of the fps genre
>quake 3, pinnacle of the arena fps
>quake 2, tech demo
Wtf went wrong

>> No.8790146

>>8790142
>duke was better
>ut99 was better
>wrong

>> No.8790154

>>8790146
No one actually likes Duke, even other overrated build engine games like Blood is better
Also UT99 is good but Quake 3 is legitimately perfect

>> No.8790169

>>8789668
Oh fuck off you God damn retard. I wasn't aware quake 4 only let you carry 2 guns and had regenerating health.

>> No.8790178

>>8790142
Quake 3 never was the pinacle of arena FPS, it is overglorified as fuck
Q1 and Q2 had it better, also Q2 had the best mods and made people learn C to program and how to make textures, which helped alot in the boom of gaming devs of the 2000's

>> No.8790182

>>8788583
SAVE ME ROMERO

>> No.8790190

>>8788927
I hate the yellow lighting in openGL software q2 looks so fuckin sexy tho

>> No.8790194

>>8790178
Digital paint 2
Weapons of destruction
Weapons factory
Action quake 2
Lithium dm
Gloom
DDay Normandy

Q2 truly was the engine before valve stole all the talent to make mods commercial

>> No.8790201

>>8790154
cringy quaketard

>> No.8790207

>>8790194
Airquake2 helped alot with the PS2 Ace combat games too.
nips loved that mod

>> No.8790208

>>8790154
this, except ut99 isn't good

>> No.8790209

Quake was always a shitty tech demo

>> No.8790216

>>8790209
Ok what's good Mr patrician taste?

>> No.8790219

More like Gayke

>> No.8790224

>>8788927
interesting how Q2 looked sharp on 3dfx scanline dithering, but with modern GL is that blurry sludge mess that was fixed later by Q2E and cheb's q2 port in the mid 2000's
N64 Q2 also had sharp looking monster textures, and even model fixes.

>> No.8790236

>>8790224
The filtering in gl is fine its the lighting that's the problem just put gl_texturemode to gl_nearest if you want chunky pixels. I do it on all the goldsrc games too cause those are derived from quake 1.

>> No.8790262

For soundtrack it would be Q2 > Q3 > Q1

>> No.8790268

>>8790262
Based. Fuck Reznor fanboys it was a good soundtrack but Quake 2 is a fucking amazing soundtrack.

>> No.8790279

>>8790236
not really, 3dfx had some black magic with gl that made the game look sharp even filtered.
you only see this shit on modern sourceports due to anisotropy and point of two filtering.

>> No.8790289

>>8788583
I like Quake 2 for what it is, but when John Romero left ID the SOVL went with him.

>> No.8790303

Quad Machine or Descent into Cereron bros?

>> No.8790331

>>8790279
Man 3dfx cards were cool, I remember moving to a standard opengl card felt like a distinct downgrade. Freespace never quite looked the same.

>> No.8790335

I can't into RTX so no Quakey Twoey for me.

>> No.8790341

>>8790335
The rtx version looks like shit my guy just play old school with a sourceport like yamagi or something.

>> No.8790352

>>8790341
I never understood all the excitement over raytraced Quake, raytracing would have been cool 30 years ago, but non-raytraced tech has advanced so far that it's not really an improvement anymore. We know how to fake it to look as good or better than raytracing, even if raytracing is technically more correct in many ways.
Now, non-photorealistic rendering, that's interesting. That quake port that renders so it looks like it was drawn with pen and paper is cool, or the ascii quake port.

>> No.8790362

>>8790352
I think ray tracing looks good with games meant to look photo realistic, but for old games with low res textures it just makes everything look shiny and gross. It really has to work with the art style of your game and ham fistedly shoving it into old ones just looks bad.

>> No.8790402

>>8788584
it's trash. it's slow as fuck.

>> No.8790405

>>8790138
>hinted remaster at the end of the year to mark Q2 25th anniversary
Is this how we get a Quake 2 renaissance?

>> No.8790410
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>>8790335
Meanwhile with Vanilla Q2 using GL 1.4 or 3.2 with HDR.
worse is that this cements that Q2 had high res in mind but limited due to tech of 1997, which led to Q3A and idtech 3 in general using TGA for high res

>> No.8790412

>>8790402
You can move around faster than in quake1 you stupid unskilled femboy bitch

>> No.8790413

What are some good Quake 2 mods?

>> No.8790416

>>8790413
For MP >>8790194 AirQuake2 and ChaosDM
For SP there is a ton of maps and unit mods

>> No.8790420

>>8788583
hot take: it's not nearly as good as NIN's soundtrack but I like the q2 soundtrack.

>> No.8790424

>>8790412
the movement is muddy and shitty and it's a bad game. i didn't insult you but you jumped to insult me over fucking quake 2. god damn. how are you doin in you're mid thirties motherfucker? time to grow up a little bit

>> No.8790425

>>8790216
Shadow Warrior

>> No.8790432
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>> No.8790449

quake 2 was the first game I played on my new 3dfx voodoo2 card. that probably sparked my interest in PCs for gaming.

>> No.8790450

>>8790432
>Rebel Moon Rising
Wow, I've never heard of this one. Poor guys, releasing a 2.5d game alongside Quake 2, it's no wonder they got buried, but it's still a shame. It looks pretty cool.

>> No.8790474

>>8790424
The movement is fucking great im sorry you're too stupid to figure it out. Is pressing jump that fuckin hard for you?

>> No.8790482

>>8790450
Play it cause it upsets left wing weenies cause it was made by vox day. I havent got around to it but it's supposed to have a lot of cool features from other genres that weren't typical to fps games either. I might be misremembering though.

>> No.8790532

>>8790482
>vox day
So the writing is a garbage Heinlein knockoff and only politically motivated retards pretend it's good, because he's on their team? Oof.

>> No.8790575

>>8790532
I think you forgot to take your anti psychotics with your HRT this morning.

>> No.8790603

>>8790575
>Can't defend Vox Day's writing with a straight face, so reach for the tranny/schizo memes
I know, it's a big ask to make that guy not look like a talentless hack trying to hump a great man's corpse, but you could at least try.

>> No.8790608

>>8789432
>You could buy it
no you couldn't, what kind of fucking store sells video games that are not allowed to be advertised
this makes no sense... also why couldn't i buy the game on steam then BEFORE the ban was lifted in germany? oh right because the game was BANNED

>> No.8790627

Is vkquake2 the best port these days?

>> No.8790713
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>>8789127
>>8789048
>>8788991
Why.

>> No.8790728

>>8790603
No you absolute moron. I'm not here to defend anything. I havent read his writings. I'm not on anyone's "team" individuals don't get their ideas from the top of a hierarchy like you retards. Most of what I know about the guy comes from the one person's rant hosting his games and his Wikipedia page which we all know is written by left wing fur fags and trannies too. I know the people he upsets are left wingers and there isn't a high T male in their ranks so the tranny jokes come naturally. I hate the whole left wing right wing dichotomy anyway it should really be "insane liberal retards" vs everybody else. Making shit into retarded fucking "teams" is how your able to hold two contrary viewpoints and not see yourself as a fucking idiot.

>> No.8790731

save me romero..

>> No.8790752

>>8790728
So you don't actually know what you're talking about and are just flailing about like a retard, then? Got it.

For the record, I'm a libertarian who fucking loves Heinlein, but Vox and his retard buddies keep making us look like clowns in the SF community, claiming there's an evil librul conspiracy in the Hugo awards to downvote his books because of his politics.
To prove it, they submitted a new book of his under a pseudonym, since then the conspiracy wouldn't know it was him and downvote him, right? Result: the "new author's" book went straight to the bottom of the list, because the problem wasn't liberals, it's Vox Day being a hack who can't write worth shit and isn't worthy of being a pimple on the ass of the man he's trying to be.
(I'm not too surprised the game is by Vox Day now you've told me, since the plot is pretty clearly a knockoff of Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.)

>> No.8790759

>>8790752
Buddy I don't care what you are just don't be a fucking leech. I don't got time for that debate kids shit anymore I'm a working man and a dad. If something upsets the groomer pedos then it's alright by me. Simple as

>> No.8790762

>>8790759
Fine, you do you.
Vox Day's a joke, I just wish he wasn't a joke who went around agreeing with my politics loudly in public all the fucking time.

>> No.8790767

>>8790752
Your probably right about the story it sounded kind of good as far as sprite shooters go it had some cool ideas. I think there was another game before it called just rebel moon but it was specific pack in to some video card so barely anyone played it either. I just thought the Wikipedia whining was hilarious.

>> No.8790782

>>8790767
I get you. I might give the game a go, since playing The Moon is a Harsh Mistress does sound fun. Hopefully it's a semi-faithful adaptation with the serial numbers filed off.
If you haven't read TMiaHM, do so, it's fantastic

>> No.8790785
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>>8790627
YamagiQ2 or KmQuake 2
vkQuake2 is a piece of shit that cant even run the mission packs and old stuff right due to the shit code that is Q2PRO, also that shit gave birth to Q2RTX, which is cursed.

>> No.8791120

>>8790782
Yes I will that book actually sounds right up my alley.

>> No.8791134

>>8789686
Sigil is fantastic though. Daikatana was hindered by the NPC AI more than anything else.

>> No.8791145
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8791145

Reminder Quake 2 is still alive and actually pulls in some decent numbers on weekends. There is also a client which can be obtained on the same website. q2servers.com

>> No.8791151

>>8790762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0c044aYorE
It's a shame that such a massive retard had some actual musical talent

>> No.8791195

>>8791151
Yeah, if he just stuck to music he'd be a pretty cool guy.

>> No.8791239

>>8789048
Quake II on PSX is honestly fuckin great for what it is

>> No.8791398

Quake 2 on N64 is lowkey the best Quake 2 game.

>> No.8791480

>>8791145
Nice.

>> No.8791539

>>8789417
Germany even censored dismemberment in games as late as Black Ops in 2010, possibly even later. They're hyper cucks

>> No.8791546
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8791546

>lose war
>staff your government with the losers for the next 50 years
>wait 2-3 generations before including the war in the curriculum
>but ban video games to convince the rest of the world you've totally changed
Germans were always a bunch of perfidious and sneaky cucks.

>> No.8791592

>>8790154
>blood overrated
>no one likes duke
>quake 3
Go sit on a dick you jizz filled condom.

>> No.8791605

>>8788583
Fun times

>> No.8792253

>>8791592
Blood is extremely over rated.

>> No.8792265

>>8792253
The “big three” build games are all fun for their own reasons. What gets your jimmies rustled over Blood?

>> No.8792420

>>8788719
> jokes about elevators.
Doesn't make it fun to wait for elevators

>> No.8792430

This was one of my first Playstation games. I didn't have a memory card and just played first levels over and over.

>> No.8792534

>>8792265
Nothing they are all great games over rated doesn't mean bad. People just treat blood like it was this earth shattering masterpiece of a game when its really not.

>> No.8792614

>>8792534
>People just treat blood like it was this earth shattering masterpiece of a game when its really not.
It’s just a lot of people liking the game a whole lot. It was also late to the party regarding ports, and the ones from a few years back stirred up a lot of interest.

>> No.8792729

>>8789668
>rock bottom of id Software.
Rock bottom of Raven as well. Stroggification scene was cool but all and all it was just a variation of the HL1 tram ride, and it would have benefitted from some screams of pain. Otherwise, it is a mid-2000s FPS: the game. Just like Q2 was, but it had multiplayer going for it and was really polished.

>> No.8792741

>>8788584
There's barely any. You just read the objective and move to a new place with enemies.

>> No.8792801

>>8790341

WRONG. You just don't know how to set it up most likely.

>> No.8792805

>>8792729
>all and all
*all in all

>> No.8792808

>>8789668

Quake 4 is shit. Really really shit. I played it on xbox 360 and PC at launch.

It's shit.

>> No.8792868

>>8792808
Is this what /v/ tourists has to say to keep their thread baits for (you)?

>> No.8792872

>>8792729
>Otherwise, it is a mid-2000s FPS: the game.
>Just like Q2 was.
I’m not sure what you’re implying here.

>> No.8792883

>>8792868

Oh look its some New Blood fellater with their proscribed edgy contrarian view.

>> No.8792891

>>8792872
it is a alf clone trying to shit on Q2 and Q4.
he tried the same shit at /v/, but he changed from HL to SS2

>> No.8792895

>>8792891
and worse, he went on to use cripplechan's screenshots of his samefaggotry

>> No.8792903

>>8792891
>it is a alf clone trying to shit on Q2 and Q4.
I’m fine with shitting on Q4, at least. Implying that Q2 has the same kind of middle millennium shooter tropes is what threw me off.

>> No.8792935

>>8792801
I haven't bothered I looked at the screenshots and saw some of the digital foundry video and noped the fuck outta there.

>> No.8792959

>>8788583
The moment Sandy leaves id releases a game devoid of any mechanically interesting enemies.
I like the aesthetic though, more than 1's nonsense.

>> No.8792998

>>8788672
Man Germany turned into a bunch of self loathing, hyper offended cucks

I’m glad Japan isn’t too scared to push boundaries and Italians just don’t give a fuck.

>> No.8793175

>>8792872
I probably should have added "just like Q2 was late 90s FPS: the game". The intended meaning was - it is a collection of widely used tropes of the time with minimum personality. Well, Q2 had a bit more distinct setting. A bit.
>>8792891
Now that's an overreaction.

>> No.8793278

I'm interested: where did Quake 2 get its style/theme from? Were they badly trying to copy WH40K with grimdark brown industrial space marines?

>> No.8793338

>>8793278
Quake 1 was grimdark brown industrial, and its space marine protag carries a fucking axe.
Quake 2 just went more cyborg techno-style.

>> No.8794598

>>8788583
WHAT HAPPENED? Nothing happened you CUNT! GTFO

>> No.8794603

>>8789009
NOW!