/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8787376]

Best way to experience MGS on PC? especially the first two in the series.

[Anonymous No.8787396]

Emulate The Twin Snakes on Dolphin with HD texture pack. It fixes a lot of the shitty parts of the original and is the superior version of MGS1. Only a completely deranged nostalgiafag could think the PS1 version is better.

>able to fast forward codecs
>PAL key backtracking is now optional
>PSG1-T added so you don't have to backtrack to the armory
>card keys don't need to be equipped to be used
>runs at 60 FPS instead of 30
>vastly superior controls and graphics
>superior voice acting for most characters (Go back and play the original. A lot of the acting is not good.)
>MGS2 mechanics add new depth to boss fights (shooting pipes during Ocelot, ducking in the ditch to avoid the tank)
>non-lethal weapons give you more options during boss fights
>bodies no longer disappear, making the game more difficult
>improved enemy AI and longer evasion phase discourages hiding and waiting
>confirmed canon by MGS3 and MGS4

[Anonymous No.8787409]

>>8787376
Emulation? I've never tried to emulate ps2 so I dont know how decent it is but MGS1 should emulate no problem.

That pic seems like a massive exaggeration, the only one that's not been ported to every console under the sun is 4. Apparently its such a clusterfuck programming-wise that it'll probably never get ported but maybe ps3 emulation will be decent enough for it someday

[Anonymous No.8787414]

Emulate 1-3 and the PSP games (and the MSX games while you’re at it). You’re on your own for MGS4 though. Is it even emulatable? I remember reading that it’s basically designed and programmed to only work for the PS3 so putting it other systems and hardware is completely out of the question. Doesn’t help that it’s obsessed with Sixaxis movement

[Anonymous No.8787426]

>>8787396
>Emulate The Twin Snakes
ew

[Anonymous No.8787445]

MGS4 isn't really worth it. I enjoyed it on release, but I wouldn't go out of my way to "play" it again since it's only got like 2-3 hours of gameplay tops. Watch it on jewtube, or don't, because it's a fucking awful sequel to 2.

[Anonymous No.8787454]

>>8787376
PCSX2. For MGS3 play the subsistence version.

[Anonymous No.8787460]

>>8787396
Forced meme is forced

[Anonymous No.8787471]

>>8787396
All of those things you listed make the game worse except maybe the card key thing (the normal one, not the PAL key).

The Jackie Chan backflipping animu cutscenes are terrible too. Yeah the game is about giant robots and the concept of Snake's character and being sent in without any weapons is absurd, but the serious tone and relative groundedness of the ps1 version goes a long way towards making the stakes of the conflict have weight and all the real-world serious stuff have the impact Kojima probably intended.

I don't remember if Twin Snakes kept the ps1 original translation or replaced it with the autismo literal Japanese translation that Kojima demanded in the ps2-3 era, but if they replaced the original translation that's another knock against it. I love the MGS series immensely but it is really a shame that the guy that tastefully replaced some of that Kojima awkwardness and Japanese idioms that don't make sense in English with more natural phrasing got shitcanned because Kojima thinks he's a better writer than he actually is.

[Anonymous No.8787485]

Braindead nostalgiafags: I miss when MGS was grounded and not the animu shit the series became after 1

MGS1 before the boss fight with 'Cyborg Ninja' who flips around with a katana and quotes an anime when he dies:

[Anonymous No.8787489]

>>8787445
Same. I really like that youtube channel futursound productions, that guy is such a huge Kojima dicksucker and seems to be cut from a similar cloth in terms of intellectual /psuedo-intellectual wank that he makes all of those games seem infinitely more clever and relevant to real life events than they actually are. Listening to him explain to me why MGS4 is actually awesome (and not just a lazy and disappointing way of wrapping up a lot of really interesting plot threads conjured up in previous games) in a several hour long video is a lot more enjoyable than the act of playing MGS4.

[Anonymous No.8787493]

>>8787471
>I don't remember if Twin Snakes kept the ps1 original translation or replaced it with the autismo literal Japanese translation that Kojima demanded in the ps2-3 era
Oh, it got replaced.

In the end, it doesn't matter. The only thing later games kept from Twin Snakes was the voice acting. Every time MGS1 is referenced, it's always as the PS1 original. I mean, MGS4 opens the Shadow Moses chapter with a literal 1:1 copy of the Heliport entry scene, in all its low-polygon glory.

[Anonymous No.8787501]

>>8787493
Wrong

[Anonymous No.8787506]

>>8787501

[Anonymous No.8787563]

>>8787376
Buy a PS3 lol

[Anonymous No.8787567]

>>8787376
>MGS is being lost to time
Wut?

[Anonymous No.8787569]

>PS1 emulation
>PCSX2 for MGS 2 and 3
>PS3 emulation for HD collection, requires a better PC but is potentially better than emulating PS2 if you don't know how to tinker with settings
>Youtube for MGS 4
>PPSSPP for Peace Walker

[Anonymous No.8787570]

>>8787376
what the fuck is this redditor shit. Just pirate and emulate. The only one this image has a point about is MGS4 but everything else you can play on PC just fine.
Also
>not on steam
>means it "doesn't count"
Stupid fucking buycucks

[Anonymous No.8787571]

>>8787569
Why wouldn't you play Peace Walker in the HD collection?

[Anonymous No.8787573]

>>8787571
I forgot its on there desu
But with emulation you can play with buds online

[Anonymous No.8787584]

Bleem!

[Anonymous No.8787586]

>MGS
>Pioneer of the stealth genre
Fuck off zoomie

[Anonymous No.8787593]

>MGS1&2 broken PC port
Didn't the GOG versions fix the compatibility issues with modern PCs, and aren't there mods to fix graphics and sound?

[Anonymous No.8787598]

>>8787586
He invented stealth

[Anonymous No.8787620]

>>8787493
I miss Mei Lings accent

[Anonymous No.8787629]

>>8787620
Woah cool it with the racism

[Anonymous No.8787667]

>>8787376
>The series is being lost to time! The only way to play through the entire Metal Gear series is on the PlayStation 3. A console now older than the SNES was when it came out
Pretty retarded point when SNES's still work and are WIDELY available in current year, much less PS3's.

[Anonymous No.8787668]

>>8787586

Kojima sports quite the massive circlejerk, specially from zoomies

>>8787586
>stealth

Effing zoomies ffs

However, the original MSX version of Metal Gear wasn’t the first stealth game either. The first stealth game was actually Castle Wolfenstein, released for the Apple II in 1981 by Muse. The object of the game is to obtain the secret Nazi war plan and get the fuck out. In the process the player has to sneak around, wear disguises, hold up, and frisk Nazis. The player has limited ammunition and simply running around will force you to face the wrath of

https://thesnakesoup.org/myth-articles/myth-metal-gear-was-the-first-stealth-video-game/

[Anonymous No.8787674]

>>8787485
>I miss when MGS was grounded and not the animu shit the series became after 1
it literally became less anime and more grounded with each sequel, wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.8787680]

>>8787620
Same. It felt wrong without it.

[Anonymous No.8787685]

>>8787620
>>8787680
I recall that they had already removed her accent as early as MGS2. If you keep saving your game during the Tanker half, Mei Ling eventually gets annoyed with Otacon constantly mangling her proverbs and personally makes him stop.

[Anonymous No.8787687]

>>8787685
Well, she's pretty much non existent in 2 and 3, and in 4 that turned into a generic bimbo, she barely looked asian.

[Anonymous No.8787692]

>>8787414
Isn't 3 difficult to emulate on account of the pressure-sensitive buttons though?

[Anonymous No.8787703]

>>8787692
the meme pressure controls do not really do much at all

[Anonymous No.8787727]

you can emulate every MGS game without a native PC port no problem

[Anonymous No.8787789]

>>8787703
...But don't you end up snapping a dude's neck when you grab them, without being able to "gently" press the hold button?

[Anonymous No.8787801]

>>8787376
GOG is better than Steam

[Anonymous No.8787804]

>>8787703
You have never played MGS3 on PS2/3

[Anonymous No.8787926]

>>8787376
Idk. MGS1 just use any generic PSX emulator. MGS2 is tricky since the HDC has issues same with the PC version you could just emulate the PS2 version but that currently has a few broken effects so idk the HDC RPCS3?
PW RPCS3
3 PCSX2 OR RPCS3
MGS4 PSNOW OR RPCS3

[Anonymous No.8787934]

>>8787376
It is a good series but its honestly pretty jarring considering the canon games go all the way back to the late 80's up to like 2016 or so if you want to play them all. They also do not even truly connect that well. They got holes in the lore or continuation that doesn't add up but worse than that to me is that the conclusion to this so called epic series is MGS4 and MGS4 was an absolute pile of crap of a game to me. All that epic shit from prior games only for it to culminate into one of the shittiest last games I ever seen for a long running franchise. Its kind of like what Disney did to Star Wars bad actually.

[Anonymous No.8787970]

>>8787934
technically MGS5 was the conclusion, which makes even less sense as it barely has a story

[Anonymous No.8787971]

>>8787804
I literally just did, nothing that can be done by the pressure controls aren't done better in the re-releases

[Anonymous No.8788038]

There's a good fix for MGS2 Substance that fixes everything, for 1 there is the gog version (that comes with some stuff you adjust by a special directx thing they implemented) or emulation

[Anonymous No.8788075]

>>8788038

[Anonymous No.8788110]

>>8787567
PCs are far more future-proof than consoles. Eventually consoles stop being manufactured and over the years break down (remember the RROD scandal?), but even the oldest PC games can in many instances be patched or rebuilt to work on modern systems and OSs.

[Anonymous No.8788113]

>>8787789
Close, the interrogate button is pressure sensitive and pressing it too hard will make you slit his throat.

[Anonymous No.8788115]

>>8788110
The zoom is strong in this post

[Anonymous No.8788117]

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[Anonymous No.8788167]

>>8787674
how did you manage to read only part of the first sentence of that post before replying to it

[Anonymous No.8788175]

>>8787445
I've tried to play it multiple times and just can not get into it. 1, 2, 3 and even 5 are some of my favorite games. One of these days I'll play through 4.

[Anonymous No.8788186]

>>8788167
Cunt, you expect me to see those colons
use greentext next time

[Anonymous No.8788240]

>>8788115
He's completely right and you have no arguments

[Anonymous No.8788250]

>>8788240
Not really. Hardware doesn't just suddenly disappear or self destruct once it becomes last gen. My Genesis will likely outlive you

[Anonymous No.8788281]

>>8787801
underrated post
gog fixes both versions to work on modern hardware. plus ground zero and 5 still have DRM.
and how comes no one mentions ground zero is losing online features? isn't that worth saving?

[Anonymous No.8788326]

>>8787692
I just mapped them to triggers. It was wonky, but you can get used to it.
By the way, how is the 3DS version on Citra? That could be a funny way to play 3.

[Anonymous No.8788331]

>>8787376
>subpar PC port

It was the best way to play MGS1.

[Anonymous No.8788375]

>>8788326
>That could be a funny way to play 3
I'm actually planning on playing the 3DS version because I haven't played a Metal Gear game in like 5 years and my Dualshock 3 is fucked beyond repair. Just easier to download MGS3 on my hacked 3DS. Dualshock 3s are by far the worst controllers ever in terms of durability, on par with 10$ chink shit. They should seriously port MGS3 to PC, everyone will buy it. No one is able to play it and have fun because it runs like absolute shit on PCSX2

[Anonymous No.8788405]

>>8787685
TTS is a VR simulation
soulless

[Anonymous No.8788439]

>>8788250
true but 5th gen and later are more prone to failure, harder to repair because of specialized components and games are harder too emulate with every newer gen.

[Anonymous No.8788567]

>>8787376
How likely is it that The Legacy Collection gets added to the new PS Plus service?

[Anonymous No.8788581]

>>8787396
>Emulate The Twin Snakes
please dont, horrid version

>>8787376
emulate them. Me personally i played the gog port with a keyboard, it was awful at times but i still enjoyed the story. I emulated the mgs triology on a ps3 emulator, which also has metal gear and metal gear 2

[Anonymous No.8788603]

>>8788567
The Legacy Collection was just The HD Collection (MGS2+3+PW) with MGS4 on a separate disc and voucher code for MGS1.

[Anonymous No.8788607]

>>8787471
>>8787493
The Twin Snakes retranslation had less to do with Kojima's autism and more to do with the kike localizer (Jeremy Blaustein) being a disrespectful cunt to Kojima and his staff (Scott Dolph and Satoshi Hirano in particular) behind the scenes, so they changed his work just enough so that they wouldn't had to pay royalties when they redid the voices for MGS1. A lot of Blaustien's inaccuracies, like Big Boss being in a coma when the original text said he was infertile, were still in the TTS translation.

It's pretty much a Martha Lucas situation.

[Anonymous No.8788608]

>>8787396
Twin Snakes has an absolute garbage soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.8788801]

>>8788608
There's a few decent ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faDPd_YGWQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofS8WAh2t5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZswKbhyGuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqnNyanKjw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCHmoZSf0WE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tP1BIizk-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FHqLdODAxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WH-vYVlkMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AxlnoK9GaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCo-8AQ4RGI

[Anonymous No.8788803]

>>8788281
Only the console version of Ground Zeroes is losing online features, the PC version is keeping them at least for now.

[Anonymous No.8788871]

>>8788375
The circle pad pro peripheral is a must. The funniest part of the 3ds version is the ability to turn any picture you've taken with the camera into a camo, and these camos are stupidly OP. I took a picture of a window from a dark room of my house, ended up making a suit that was basically white and light blue, and it had 95-100% coverage everywhere from the opening jungle to the walls of Groznij Grad.

It only plays at about 15-20fps though. It's a fun curiosity but the 3ds only complicates the already complex controls and the performance is total dogshit.

[Anonymous No.8788873]

>THIS SERIES IS BEING LOST TO TIME
And nothing of value was lost. "Game" should have been a fucking series of movies.

[Anonymous No.8788876]

>>8788281
What are the online features of Ground Zeroes? I don't remember there being any

[Anonymous No.8788890]

>>8788375
>my Dualshock 3 is fucked beyond repair. Dualshock 3s are by far the worst controllers ever in terms of durability, on par with 10$ chink shit.
I'd wager that your DualShock 3 is in fact a chinkshit clone that looks like an official one. I have a "DualShock 3" I bought from Amazon, listed as manufactured by Sony, came in official looking packaging, pretty much indistinguishable from the real thing. But, it felt cheap, buttons would often get stuck, the caps on the analog sticks looked more flat than convex, L2/R2 triggers felt stiff to press, etc. At the time, I also thought it might have been bad manufacturing and Sony cheaping out. But one time, I had it plugged into my PC, and noticed in my PC bios that I had a USB device with some sort of generic "Shenzhen corporation" or something name on it, and I was thinking "what the fuck is that?". So, I decided to just head to a local GameStop, but a used DS3 (which feels waaay better than the Amazon one I bought, btw), and plug it into my computer. Sure enough, the bios shows the GameStop one as a USB device named "Sony DualShock 3". This was probably around 2014/2015 that I bought that Amazon one.

[Anonymous No.8788907]

>>8788890
Not them, but my family bought a PS3 at launch and had both a Sixaxis and a DS3 and they both genuinely felt like shit from very early on, at least compared to the DS2 and Xbox/Xbox 360 controllers. I agree with what they had to say about them; the quality just wasn't there that generation

[Anonymous No.8788934]

>>8788876
You could transfer some of the prisoners to Motherbase in TPP and it also recorded you personal records to an online server.

[Anonymous No.8788980]

>>8787396
It’s actually shocking how bad this port is. If they had simply taken the first game and replaced the graphics and physics with those of MGS2, it would have been great. Basically everything about it minus the story and level design was changed needlessly.

[Anonymous No.8788984]

>>8788980
Also the new controls are unusable because the gamecube controller sucks.

[Anonymous No.8788987]

>>8787376
>MGS1
DuckStation, PC port is shit and has missing content
>MGS2
PC port with V's Fix patch, can emulate in RPCS3 too but pressure sensitivity might be a problem if you don't have a Dualshock 3 or a not-so-powerful computer. Can emulate in PCSX2 too but it tends to shit itself with heavy slowdown in outdoor sections
>MGS3
RPCS3, pressure sensitive controls are gonna be a bigger problem though without a Dualshock 3. Xenia might be a good choice if you have a powerful rig. PCSX2 works fine but has graphical issues.
>MGS4
RPCS3 is your only option.
>Peace Walker
RPCS3 works well for this one and no need to worry about pressure sensitive controls either.

[Anonymous No.8789004]

>>8788987
Does the ps3 HD edition still have pressure sensitive controls? I thought it might have done away with them. The Vita version brings up a GZ/TPP style menu when you grab a guard that lets you choose between choking, throat slitting and interrogating if I remember right.

[Anonymous No.8789005]

>>8788873
t. Daniel "why don't people like Thief more" Harris

[Anonymous No.8789008]

>>8788984
Yeah I remember that by the end of the game I was still pressing the wrong button quite often, just because the controls don't really seem to click with the Gamecube controller.

[Anonymous No.8789013]

>>8789004
It does, however the Xbox 360 version does not so it remaps certain functions to clicking the analog sticks, would be an ideal compromise but Xenia is generally not a very good emulator currently compared to RPCS3.

[Anonymous No.8789057]

>>8788890
DS3 indeed is shit. I joke you not I bought them from official retailers EVERY YEAR because they just broke. I don't know why but almost always the problem was when you moved the left stick it started pressing buttons on the d pad on its own. I used them mostly for emulation on PC and I just don't know why I kept buying them. Dualshock 4 is better in terms of literally everything. I'm using a Switch Pro controller (the cheap Hori one) now though, it's great

[Anonymous No.8789106]

>>8787396
While I do not think the twin snakes is bad like some cultists I don't agree with the idea that it is better than mgs1. Maybe if a mod that restores the original OST comes out I will like it more. Besides emulation is always janky just get a wii and play it on that.

[Anonymous No.8789113]

>>8787376
bro ps3s are not hard to come by... it isn't an issue yet.

[Anonymous No.8789121]

>>8787414
It's a shame how few people will get to play 4 as we get further and further from the ps3 era. Despite all the contrarian whining, it was kino.

What'll be funny is once it becomes a title few people are actually able to play I bet we'll hear everyone reverse course and talk about how it's secretly the best MGS game

[Anonymous No.8789132]

>>8789121
>What'll be funny is once it becomes a title few people are actually able to play I bet we'll hear everyone reverse course and talk about how it's secretly the best MGS game
That's because it is. MGS4 was the best in the series and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

[Anonymous No.8789136]

>>8789121
MGS4 is Suda51's favorite Metal Gear game

[Anonymous No.8789148]

>>8787789
Yeah you can still interrogate people but you have a hair fucking trigger now and if you're going for a no-kill run it's best to just leave them alone because it goes wrong so easily.

I also had a problem with aiming in FPV and then putting the gun down without actually firing off a shot. Before, you could sort of slowly take pressure off the trigger, now, if you push the button hard enough to aim he's gonna fire unless you unequip it. Minor annoyances but still, you can tell there's a difference

[Anonymous No.8789157]

>>8789132
state some reasons why it was the best one. I don't think it's the worst, but to me there's a big power gap between the games after 2.

[Anonymous No.8789164]

>>8789157
It has more technology
Feels like a metal gear game
Cranks it up to 11

[Anonymous No.8789174]

Sneaking around the big battlefields in parts 1 and 2 of MGS4 are great and still some of my favorite sections in a Metal Gear. Once you hit part 3 the game really starts to go downhill, and yes that includes returning to Shadow Moses.

[Anonymous No.8789176]

>>8789164
none of that says anything to me lol. maybe except for the crank it up to 11. MGS4 in some of it's key aspects went above and beyond. Specially on the accounts of Big Boss wanking.

[Anonymous No.8789178]

>>8789164
>cranks it up to 11
more like they did inhalants and wrote the script
the L-ocelot interactions were so fking crazy that it took me out..
but then again that's the point - why's it got to be so insane?

[Anonymous No.8789179]

>>8789174
Episode 2 might be the best part of the game, yes.

[Anonymous No.8789184]

>>8789004
>The Vita version brings up a GZ/TPP style menu when you grab a guard that lets you choose between choking, throat slitting and interrogating if I remember right.
It uses the rear touchpad, actually. It's sort of frustrating, considering how easy it is to accidentally tap that thing during gameplay, but running your finger across the back of the console to slit throats does feel pretty brutal.

[Anonymous No.8789185]

>>8787376
MGS2 PC with the V's Fix mod is the best version of the game. As for the other titles I agree. I find it odd that the MGS HD collection was released on PS3 and 360 but not PC.

[Anonymous No.8789195]

>>8789157
I think 3 is the best and always will be but 4 is really good

>insanely high production quality
>massive arsenal of weapons and items
>first game in the series to let you mod weapons to some extent
>octocamo eliminates the need for menu fuckery
>snake moves more fluidly than in previous games
>lots of variety to the environments
>written as a definitive ending to Solid Snake's storyline, wrapped up literally everything in a way that most franchises don't and included everything fans could ask for. Rex vs Ray, Eva, Big Boss, it covered all the bases
>you can grab the frogs by the pusy

[Anonymous No.8789209]

>>8789185
>I find it odd that the MGS HD collection was released on PS3 and 360 but not PC.
Konami released jack shit on PC during 7th gen. Only things I can think of (besides annual PES) are the Castlevania Lords of Shadow games, the Rocket Knight Adventures reboot (which was a small digital exclusive on console), Silent Hill Homecoming, Metal Gear Rising, and Metal Gear Solid 5 (which is a cross-gen game that people consider more 8th than 7th).

[Anonymous No.8789261]

>>8789195
>lots of variety to the environments

MGS4 being episodic works this aspect to it's benefit, but the levels are all pretty damn small and short with little to nothing worthwhile to reward the player for exploration.

>written as a definitive ending to Solid Snake's storyline, wrapped up literally everything in a way that most franchises don't and included everything fans could ask for. Rex vs Ray, Eva, Big Boss, it covered all the bases

And it's a pretty shitty ending for the character, sure Rex vs Ray was the coolest shit to ever happen in MGS, but MGS4 plays a Gambit where Solid Snake is not cool anymore and makes him a bitter old man, not even the wise soldier, takes the Big Boss wanking to the point where it pulls his presence out of it's ass just to steal the show because somewhere around the years Kojima was jaded with Solid Snake and just took the deification of Big Boss a bit too serious, the only thing he missed was write a cult of BB in the series.
He forgot what made Solid Snake work as a character, to the point that he couldn't figure out how to write lines for him. Snake exchanges little to no dialog with it's opponents nor with the supporting cast. He's just... there, quips something, but never engages in a conversation. And things happen around him. I don't know I could rant a bit more, but I take issue with MGS4's treatment of Solid Snake and I cannot fathom why people never make a point out of it. Whenever a complain is leveled at MGS4 it's for it's sillyness or the ratio between gameplay/cutscenes.


I'm in the minority that dislikes 3 and prefers 4 to it only by a small margin.

[Anonymous No.8789276]

>>8789261
>MGS4 being episodic works this aspect to it's benefit
Is there a plausible in-game explanation why the locations you visit in-game are called "The Middle East", "South America" and "Eastern Europe"? It always felt cheap and weird to me that they didn't use specifically named and defined locations when every other game in the series does.

[Anonymous No.8789410]

>This series is being lost to time.
>checks archive, and they’re all there.

[Anonymous No.8789454]

>This series is being lost to time
Like tears in rain. Time... to die...

[Anonymous No.8789467]

>>8787396
I like this version but I don't like what they did with the cutscenes,

[Anonymous No.8789475]

>>8787396
This honestly. Having played both idk why the ps1 version is treated like it its so much better than the gamecube version when at its core the gamecube version is the same with better presentation. The character models look like trash compared to mgs2 and 3 though.

[Anonymous No.8789537]

>>8789410
Zoomers can't into retro consoles.

[Anonymous No.8789559]

>>8789537
But you can play MG-MGSV all on one non retro console including MGR

[Anonymous No.8789567]

>>8789559
MGS4 is stuck on PS3 limbo. I guess there's always PS Now, but I don't know how reliable that service is.

[Anonymous No.8789570]

>>8789567
PS3 is the non retro console I was referring to

[Anonymous No.8789573]

Imagine if they closed PS Store on PS3 like they promised. Imagine the fucking price of the Legacy Collection

[Anonymous No.8789596]

I was thinking of buying the Xbox 360 port of 3 but for whatever reason you can't but the standalone digital edition, also, does it still have the theater mode? The peepshow and monkey snake things were the only things cut right?

[Anonymous No.8789652]

>>8789570
Anything that isn't currently sold in stores is too old for most zoomers.

[Anonymous No.8789692]

>>8789121
I told a friend I'd let him keep the game if I could use his ps3 to play it. Came over, beat it in two sittings, fucking great time. Some of the story stuff is fucking stupid and most of the boss fights are weak excluding the obvious but otherwise a fucking great game

[Anonymous No.8789704]

>>8789596
MGS2 and 3 have been taken down due to Konami not renewing the copyright license for the live action footage in those games. The things cut from the HD version are Snake vs Monkey, Secret Theater, Duel mode, MGO and the nightmare minigame.

[Anonymous No.8789741]

>>8789704
Why does Konami just not care anymore?

[Anonymous No.8789750]

>>8789741
Pachinkos

[Anonymous No.8789752]

>>8789261
I was going to reply but then I read

>I'm in the minority that dislikes 3

and realized I could just discard your opinion entirely

[Anonymous No.8789756]

>>8787376
do the people that make images like this actually not know what emulation is, or do they just pretend it doesn't exist so they can be outraged?

[Anonymous No.8789762]

>>8789756
PCSX2 is shit and not everyone has a PC strong enough to run MGS4

[Anonymous No.8789765]

>>8789752
>muh sacred cow

[Anonymous No.8789768]

>>8789762
Nevertheless, they are only becoming more accessible as those versions improve. The opposite of being "lost to time"

[Anonymous No.8789778]

>>8789765
MGS3 is one of the very few 'best in the series' games that actually deserve the praise. I'm not annoyed when lots of people say it's their favorite as opposed to games like Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy 7

[Anonymous No.8789779]

>>8789692
The B&B corps weren't the best boss fights in the franchise but I thought they had their moments.

>getting literally rolled by decoy octopus the first time because you didn't know to stand on the bed
>getting pounced on by crying wolf
>I'M OVERHEATING
>the Psycho Mantis callback where he's confused because there's no memory cards

also I appreciated all the gratuitous ass shots

[Anonymous No.8789805]

>>8789741
The revenue generated from those games on digital platforms is possibly less than the cost of renewing the license for the footage.

[Anonymous No.8789817]

>>8789778
>MGS3 is one of the very few 'best in the series' games that actually deserve the praise.
>>8789752
>I was going to reply but then I read
>>I'm in the minority that dislikes 3
>and realized I could just discard your opinion entirely

No OoT fan or FF7 fan is as faggot as the MGS3 fan it seems. good to know now. Or maybe you are just a faggot.

[Anonymous No.8790087]

Do you have to install both MGS2 and 3 for the HD versions? I just want 3 installed

[Anonymous No.8790101]

>>8790087
The digital release separated the games.

[Anonymous No.8790176]

>>8789276
>Is there a plausible in-game explanation why the locations you visit in-game are called "The Middle East", "South America" and "Eastern Europe"? It always felt cheap and weird to me that they didn't use specifically named and defined locations when every other game in the series does.

Probably there wasn't enough military advice for MGS4 to give context and justification for choosing specific locations. Or if it was enough advice, probably they didn't wanted to put the effort into writing it because, in the context of the story, they just needed to design the fetch quest and no not specify places or locations so they couldn't be constrained by realism and just go through each setpiece.

[Anonymous No.8790437]

>>8790176
I always imagined Konami probably wanted to avoid getting themselves into controversies by referring specific nations or conflicts. I know in the leaked MGSV script there are instructions on which companies or country names to avoid using,

[Anonymous No.8790447]

>>8789778
I don't see how it's better than 2, unless we're still able to play online, which I never did at the time

[Anonymous No.8790448]

>>8790437
>instructions on which companies or country names to avoid using,
That's interesting considering the locations in that game are a lot more specific than MGS4

[Anonymous No.8790451]

>>8789537
I guess PS3 might as well be retro

[Anonymous No.8790473]

>>8790437
That's interesting. Do you remember any companies in particular? I assume DeBeers probably

[Anonymous No.8790478]

>>8790447
I know Konami shit for using the initials MSF for Big Boss's private army in Peace Walker, which is why they added a disclaimer in the HD port.

[Anonymous No.8790487]

Why just the Solid games? The original 2 MG games on these collections are not even the "real" msx versions, plus all the spinoffs like Ac!d and Ghost Babel.

[Anonymous No.8790496]

>>8790447
2 perfected corridor stealth and had a better story. 3 had cool outdoor survival / sim mechanics and an absolutely kino atmosphere. Theyre tied in my mind as the best. Ps2 metal gear best metal gear.

[Anonymous No.8790617]

>>8789779
Psycho mantis felt like a fucking marvel point and remember the reference. The bosses are fine in this game, just lame compared to the rest of the series. I stand by The End being the best boss fight ever

[Anonymous No.8790671]

>>8790617
All the boss fights in 4 are pretty bad. The first BB fight is okay but I hate every other boss in the game. The sniper fight was especially a huge letdown compared to The End

[Anonymous No.8790768]

>>8787396
Based, but get the old soundtrack patch

[Anonymous No.8790842]

>>8790671
I mean ocelot and metal gear ray are great but yeah it's all a huge step down

[Anonymous No.8790957]

>>8787501
>>8787506
blown the fuck out
>>8787493
lmao dude

[Anonymous No.8791326]

>>8790101
You can't buy them anymore

[Anonymous No.8791335]

>>8791326
>what is piracy

[Anonymous No.8791339]

>>8791335
for 3, on xbox 360/xbone?

[Anonymous No.8791346]

>>8791339
On 360, sure. Hacked 360s are a thing. Have been. And even if you don't have one, you can emulate instead (granted 360 emulation isn't quite as developed as PS3, so at that point, I would recommend emulating the PS3 version)

[Anonymous No.8791432]

>>8791346
well I'd specifically want to play it on xbone

[Anonymous No.8791448]

>>8789756
Emulation is a workaround for the lack of a native port. Also, the PS2 and PS3 are still far from being emulated down to cycle-accuracy on current PC hardware.

[Anonymous No.8791454]

>>8789537
>>8789652
>hurr muh zoomers

[Anonymous No.8791856]

>>8789805
Metal Gear is a huge fucking deal, I highly doubt a proper Steam port or whatever would not make a hefty profit.

[Anonymous No.8791880]

>>8791432
Take what you can get. Or, find a used disc copy.

[Anonymous No.8791917]

>>8787501
right = kino and moody
left = generic and bland

[Anonymous No.8792196]

I have a good PC and a dualshock 3 controller so I think I can get MGS2 and 3 running on it with the pressure controls. Are the HD PS3 versions complete with all the extra stuff with Sustenance/Subsistence content and that vampire nightmare game?

[Anonymous No.8792201]

Is there any way to play this with original voice acting short of learning the language myself?

[Anonymous No.8792258]

>>8792196
removed from MGS2:
>skateboarding
removed from MGS3:
>Snake vs Monkey Ape Escape crossover
>Metal Gear Online 1
>Guy Savage nightmare
>Secret Theater fake gag cutscenes

[Anonymous No.8792445]

>>8791339
PS3 is effortlessly soft modded, 360 is effortly hard modded.

[Anonymous No.8792447]

>>8792258
>skateboarding
was only on the PS2 version of Substance

[Anonymous No.8792449]

The only thing that the PC version of 2 still needs is the textures of the PS2 version

[Anonymous No.8792483]

>>8792447
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I listed what was removed in the HD versions, cause the guy asked

[Anonymous No.8792484]

I've heard that MGS3 is impossible to emulate because of the pressure sensitive buttons. Is this not true or is there just a good workaround?

[Anonymous No.8792487]

>>8792484
Buy a DualShock 3

[Anonymous No.8792493]

>>8787445
With every replay I like it a bit more. If the level design wasn't so terrible it would be easier for people to enjoy it. It just doesn't play the same as the other games because it's needlessly frustrating to actually stealth your way through.

[Anonymous No.8792502]

>>8792484
The game did have a XBOX 360 port, so there must have been a workaround.

[Anonymous No.8792503]

>>8792487
Is there any way to do that without spending a shit load of money?

[Anonymous No.8792510]

>>8792503
They're like $15 on eBay.