/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8786172]

I'm playing SMT: Nocturne for PS2 and I'm lost.
I just beat Thor and it's strange how the story is. Basically, the world just ended and everyone is fine with it. Is this a problem with the translation or what? I expected more sober and dark dialogues in the game.

[Anonymous No.8786176]

DAE Hardest game of all tiem?
XDD

[Anonymous No.8786275]

>>8786172
>everyone
There's only a handful of humans left.

[Anonymous No.8786276]

The dungeon design in Nocturne is the worst in the series, SMT really suffered in the transition to 3D.

[Anonymous No.8786301]

>>8786172
Why did you expect that? This is years after the fall, of course people arent going to be ultra dramatic about it.

[Anonymous No.8786305]

>>8786172
>Thor
Is this before the peephole? Lucifer explains everything to you. To sum it up with the least amount of spoilers, all of this was willed to happen be a certain someone, he who shall not be named.

[Anonymous No.8786306]

>>8786276
Agree 100%

[Anonymous No.8786314]

>>8786276
>worst in the series
No. ...if, MT1 has worse dungeons

[Anonymous No.8786320]

>>8786276
>>8786306
I dont believe either of you have actually played SMT1 to completion if you think this is true lmao.

[Anonymous No.8786335]

>>8786320
Pay no mind. Just a contrarian samefag that spouts the same line in every nocturne thread. Nocturne is middle of the road, it's not even outright bad like Ronde. Dude probably got filtered by Matador

[Anonymous No.8786351]

>>8786314
MT1 isn't an SMT game, it's just the original "MT" game, they're not really in the same league. The "shin" prefix was added as a clean break.
>>8786320
I have actually.

[Anonymous No.8786361]

>>8786314
I missed your mention of if... but yes those dungeons are awful, I agree there. Also not technically a mainline SMT game.

[Anonymous No.8786427]

>>8786172
If with everyone you mean the monsters, they are always around everytime Kagutsuchi ends a world, so they really don't care.

[Anonymous No.8786587]

>>8786314
...if has great dungeons (except the waiting one)

[Anonymous No.8786756]

>>8786320
SMT1 is fine.

If has the most dogshit dungeon in the history of the series though.

[Anonymous No.8786761]

>>8786320
2 has much worse dungeons and way more backtracking and also the dungeons all look samey in 2

[Anonymous No.8786771]

this game might be cool if it wasn't so edgy and cringeworthy.

[Anonymous No.8786776]

>>8786771
Literally every megaten game. Why are you even playing them if that is the deal breaker for you?

[Anonymous No.8786968]

>>8786301
What? No it's hours after the end of the world. Nocturne rakes place over a couple of days at best.

[Anonymous No.8787000]

>>8786172
The world did not end. Only Tokyo was sucked up by kagatsuchi

[Anonymous No.8787053]

>>8786761
This guy knows the deal. I jammed right through I and then got super sick of II around the pillars or something? I just couldn't bring myself to backtrack for items for 15 hours. Beetleboy is my boy, however.

[Anonymous No.8787259]

>>8786335
Shin Megami Tensei III/Nocturne is undoubtedly one of the better games in the series. PS2 was Shin Megami Tensei at its peak.

[Anonymous No.8787308]

>>8787259
lmao

[Anonymous No.8787317]

>>8786172
The story is way in the background. The grind, le mature adult pokemon, and the strategy involved in the press turn system are the real draws of the series.

[Anonymous No.8787326]

SMT games have always been weird as fuck instead of these uber dark edgelord stories. I mean, don’t get me wrong, they’re still pretty edgy but the games tend to thrive more off being really fucking weird and everyone acting like total maniacs instead of a super serious super dark story that never lets up on how grim it is.

[Anonymous No.8787329]

>>8787259
High Tier: DDS1, SMT1/2, MT2, Strange Journey, Last Bible Special, Last Bible

Mid Tier: Nocturne, DDS2, Raidou 1/2, Persona 1, SMT4/A

Low Mid: Persona 2 duology, Soul Hackers, DeSu 1/2

Low tier - everything else

[Anonymous No.8787332]

>>8787329
What didn't you like about Soul Hackers?

[Anonymous No.8787338]

>>8787259
SMT IV is unironically my favorite out of 3, 4, 5 and SJ. Never played any of the rest.

[Anonymous No.8787340]

>>8786320
It’s more understandable because it’s a SNES game. They could get away with designing cryptic mindfuck mazes because that’s how it was back then. I have approximately zero desire to ever play If again because of its dungeon design. 1 was fucking annoying with some of the dungeons, mainly because they were often just these gargantuan sprawling labyrinths where everything looks the same. 2 suffers from the fact you have to backtrack constantly, and then the game absolutely shits itself when you need to open the portal to the Underworld by backtracking through every dungeon. They’ve always had shitty design

[Anonymous No.8787345]

>>8787338
IV at least has firearms and armor which Nocturne does not

[Anonymous No.8787353]

>>8787332
I did not like the aesthetics. Was Kaneko designer for it? Seemed way off. Also did not care for the story, could not get into it

[Anonymous No.8787390]

>>8787353
Not that poster but Soul Hackers and Strange Journey were high tier to me. But even though you could not get into the storyline did you not like the world? I mean it's basically Japanese Cyberpunk at it's peak. Then again you also did not put IV in the list for a reason so that might explain a lot.

[Anonymous No.8787397]

>>8787338
Apocalypse is solid if you consider it an expansion of IV and not a full fledged title. Soul Hackers is good you should give it a try.

[Anonymous No.8787403]

>>8787390
I put 4/Apocalypse in mids. Cyberpunk is not as enthralling for me, but I get that it is intriguing for a lot of people. I am more into Post-Apocalyptic

[Anonymous No.8787404]

Is the Devil Summoner translation still happening? Desperate to play that and hopefully Ronde someday

[Anonymous No.8787417]

>>8787403
I see I was thinking you were of that mindset it makes total sense. I am glad you do not put IV in the high tier and say it is the greatest SMT game ever. Too many people rank that game higher than mid when the main issue is it can be a tiny bit generic in the sense you know which path the Chaos and Law alignments will be and the end game is a bit harder than most.

[Anonymous No.8787458]

>>8787404
I think the dude on smtg got stuck on negotiations. I think the project started like 10 years ago, just learn jap at this point

[Anonymous No.8787470]

>>8787329
extremely weird but I can dig it

[Anonymous No.8788379]

>>8786172
The demons love their new world because....its their own fucking world, and they are al excited about the creation of a new world.

Why would demons be sad about the human world going to shit? only the handful of human characters care, this makes sense.

[Anonymous No.8788384]

>>8786276
Diet Building

[Anonymous No.8788392]

Almost everyone is dead, what do you expect demons to think about it?

[Anonymous No.8788637]

>>8786587
This. Sloth world is absolute garbage but the rest are prime dungeon crawling material.

[Anonymous No.8788819]

>>8786968
I will admit it's been years since I played, so my story details are all out of wack.

[Anonymous No.8788865]

>>8788637
That atrocious one in Shinji’s route where you have to go through awful teleporter mazes several times and are required to have certain fusions just to carry an item fucking sucks balls

[Anonymous No.8789791]

>>8786172
If you're iq is over 105, and you've spent anytime learning on /pol/, then you might notice this game hints at some huge overall topics.
I first played this game because of 4chan recommendations. And I see why.
If you're playing this just for gameplay, it is still very good, but some of the critiques above are appropriate.