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8786043 No.8786043 [Reply] [Original]

>yay lets play some arcade games!
>blocks your path with a brick wall of obstacles, a learning curve from hell and you need an advanced degree in arcade board electronics of the 1980s to get games working.

I just want to play some fucking games, what is this wall of Autism?

>> No.8786047

can we just have a mame thread and let all the shitflinging happen in the background there?

>> No.8786104
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8786104

>got the right rom set? no thats not the games.
>is it a clone?
>do you need split or merged sets?
what about BIOS version?
>Rom region?
>CHDs? you got that?
>have you gone through the 12 pages of configuration options?
>no you cant just play, here's a 72 page manual on how to set it up.

>> No.8786109

works on my machine

>> No.8786114

Because we needed another emutard shovelthread

>> No.8786118

>open game
>it tells you exactly what file you're missing
>download file
>play game
I'm drowning in inconvenience.

>> No.8786119

>>8786043
It's not that hard.

>> No.8786157

Process for playing arcade games for dummies:

1. Get RetroArch
2. Get FB Neo core and MAME - Current core (ideally don't upgrade MAME to .241 since it removes games like Akai Katana)
3. Get an idea of the games you'd like to play
4. Know the associated .zip filenames for these games (e.g Metal Slug 2 is mslug2.zip). You can find what games have what filenames on Arcade Italia or EE
NOTE: YOU CANNOT CHANGE THESE FILENAMES AT ALL OR HAVE UNZIPPED FILES IF YOU WANT MAME OR FB NEO TO RECOGNIZE THEM
5. Know what other files are required. This could be a bios, a "parent game" (the largest filesize, usually the World version, but depends), or some random support file. These other required files must be in the directory with the zip file of the game. There is a huge list of MAME support files that various games may require. Also "nonmerged" files include the necessary files required to play the game, while "merged" files are meant to be used as part of a massive bloated set (not recommended). Also, sites like TCRF or tvtropes can tell you regional differences between games so you can decide which is best.
6. Now that you have all your files, go into RetroArch, and test all your games. Do a manual scan of your directory, set the category as FB Neo and the default core as FB Neo. Delete anything from the playlist (within RetroArch) that is a support file or a parent file that you don't plan on playing (files that are only there to make games work).
7. Confirm games work with FB Neo, or change core default to MAME otherwise (many 2000's+ games are not support by FB Neo unfortunately). You may get an error if you don't have the required files, so just double check you have all needed files for that game.

>> No.8786163

>>8786157
8. Name all your games how YOU want them to be named, within RetroArch itself (this is called a "label" in the playlist, it doesn't affect filename). A good method is "[game name] aka [alternative region name]", or "[game name] [region]". You can also put a 1 after some first games in a series just so they're ordered properly alphabetically.
9. Take the playlist .lpl file in RetroArch (that sets all names and core associations) and set it as "read only" so it can't get deleted or changed and make sure you save it.
10. You can set individual dip switches in RetroArch's quick menu and control schemes per game. FB Neo actually has individualized per-game control bindings (so each game will have its own unique set of buttons binded instead of just a generic controller). However, if it's a NEO GEO game, you will have to actually change settings within the game itself using service mode and set the soft dip to adjust game settings (think of it like an arcade operator would be toggling physical dip switches, while a home user would be navigating a menu to adjust his virtual dip switches, which is why it's different). You can also set CPU overclock per-game, which can help remove slowdowns. Occasionally some games will have timing or other issues if not at 100% CPU but that's rare.
11. If you need to add more games to your playlist, basically make a new playlist like you did in the first place, except now just copy and paste the playlist text into the old playlist text. Make sure you have a comma after the last item in the playlist (since the last item in a playlist has no comma, but if you're throwing it in the middle of a playlist then it will need a comma).

>> No.8786167

>>8786157
>1.Get RetroShart
Horrible advice

>> No.8786169

>>8786167
>playing games with less lag BAD
>playing games with consistent and intuitive interface with massive amount of customization BAD

>> No.8786174

if you can't beat MAME you have no hope against the arcade games themselves.

>> No.8786187

>>8786157
>>8786163
Oh yeah, I forgot to add. A ton of arcade games have unique frame-rates from 55-62fps. So the best way to play these games is with "Sync to Exact Content Framerate" setting enabled and a VRR display. Also set run-ahead to 1

>> No.8786196

>>8786169
If I was worried about lag I wouldn't be emulating.

>> No.8786198

>>8786043
You are literally stupid. Thats the wall.

>> No.8786206

>>8786196
>t. retard
Emulation is literally lower lag than original hardware if you want it to be.

>> No.8786215

>>8786206
Anything that alters the feel of the original game on authentic hardware is cheating.

>> No.8786226

>>8786157
>>8786163
I don't understand any of that.

The only thing I do know is that no 3D game I've ever tried to run in MAME actually worked.

>> No.8786227

>>8786215
Nice cope retard. First you say it's laggy, then you say it's cheating if it's not laggy. With emulation you can have the lag be 100% accurate or as much or as little as you want.

>> No.8786232

>>8786226
MAME doesn't have support for all games. Arcade Italia will tell you if a game is supported. Some arcade games may require a CHD file and others may require NAOMI which is an entirely differently emulator (Flycast).

>> No.8786239

>>8786227
I'm just saying under no circumstance is emulation ever going to be a 1:1 experience

>> No.8786242

>>8786226
>The only thing I do know is that no 3D game I've ever tried to run in MAME actually worked.
Well I for one have been playing Tekken 3 since when? 2017 at least?

>>8786232
> Arcade Italia will tell you if a game is supported
What? MAME will tell you if a game is supported? Why would I rely on website being up to find out?

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>>8786239
Holy fucking cope. You literally could NEVER tell the difference if using the same input and display LMAO.

First you say it's laggy, which was false. Then you say it's inaccurate, which was false. Then you say "b-b-b-but it's not a 1:1 experience in some vague, nebulous way that I don't know and can't even describe!!! It's just not the same dammit!!"

The mental gymnastics necessary to be opposed to emulation is just too funny.

>> No.8786253

>>8786206
Bullshit. Especially not with laggy crap like nvidia gpu's.

>> No.8786259

>>8786249
Kill yourself frog poster

>> No.8786262
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>>8786253
Cope.

>> No.8786269

>>8786232
Like seriously. What is this arcade italia bullshit? How much easier than a literal traffic light does it get? How is looking up a shitty online database any easier than just reading the "OVERALL STATUS" in MAME. I mean arcade italias entries are probably quite literally based on that.

>> No.8786270

>>8786239
Wrong...cycle accurate emulation already exists.

For an emulator to be "cycle accurate" means the interactions between the components are timed accurately enough so that the emulation behaves the same way as the original machine for any given input.

There would be no difference you can discern if given the same controller between two TVs.

>> No.8786274

>>8786262
Who the fuck emulates retarded shit like dkc. Get fucked noob.

>> No.8786278

>>8786242
>>8786269
Arcade Italia tells you all necessary information about a game in a much simpler and intuitive way, such as name, region/version, required files (BIOS/parent/support files), emulation status, and a bunch of other details.

>> No.8786286

>>8786262
>two filmed frames of input lag (8ms)
A 60fps game updates every 16ms. You're filming in between frames. Play a game that actually runs at 240fps.

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>>8786278
I mean, I don't know how much more info than this you need to get your stuff running but ok.

>> No.8786318

>>8786296
Doesn't show required files, BIOS files, support files, CHD files, dip switches, screenshots, and more. So yes, that is significantly worse than Arcade Italia you retard inbred fuck.

And you're using a months outdated version of mame you retard fuck

>> No.8786353

>>8786318
It is years out of date thank you very much and I don't know how you are ever going to have to concern yourself with missing BIOS files. You just have them all since they're like ~100MB combined and never worry about it ever again. It tells you whether you need the CHD - oh, guess what? It shares the same file name as the ROM. It tells you what the parent ROM is too and that is quite literally all the info you need to get a game going. All the other stuff you mentioned is rarely needed. So rarely in fact, I'm tempted to say never.

>> No.8786376

>>8786353
Why would you shit up your directory with 1200 garbage files especially when you won't even be using 98% of them? Also nonmerged files contain all necessary files within the zip so it's much cleaner.

You're such a fucking retard. Too stupid to even update your shit from years ago. Just a retard little kid stuck in his shitty ways insisting it's how it's done.

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>>8786376
>Oh no, 500 files on my hard drive taking up less than 100MB. Oh the horror, just what will I do? I would much rather go to Arcade Italia #sponsored every time I want to play a new title and find out just what exact files I need. Yes, that is such a good use of my time.

What do you mean "my directory"? What are you talking about? You can customize all the paths. Of course you make specific BIOS directory, you brainlet. I'm starting to think you're the one here not familiar with the majority of the feature set here, permavirgin. Why are you so angry? Because I don't endorse your favorite little website that used to be down for months at a time?

>> No.8786418

>>8786157
RA MAME sucks, and I say that as a regular RA user. FBNeo's mostly priddy-gud though.

>> No.8786425

>>8786418
Fact. MAME core is garbage.

>> No.8786430

>>8786043
I've been using MAME since I was a kid in the 90s, and I was a borderline retarded kid. Not sure I'm that much better by adult standards.

Fucking sack up or get your boyfriend to help, zoomtard.

>> No.8786446

>>8786413
Imagine being such a double digit IQ mouthbreathing subhuman that you actually take a fucking screenshot of a bunch of MAME support files on your computer LMFAO

Do you have legitimately have autism? Does your mother wipe your ass for you? What is this to prove? WOAH MAN, YOU CAN SAVE A THOUSAND UNNECESSARY FILES ON YOUR COMPUTER!!! HOLY FUCKING SHIT BRO, NO WAY!! THAT'S CRAZY!!

MAME is such an ass-backwards piece of shit... which is why you updated you haven't updated your fucking files in YEARS, you dumb shithead LOL

Alternatively, you could pull your fucking head out of your asshole, use RetroArch, have everything in a consistent and intuitive interface, just use nonmerged files, and then occasionally toss any support or parent files in as needed after spending ten seconds to double check with Arcade Italia

>>8786418
It's literally the same as the standalone. You press triangle + select and you can access the config menu.

>> No.8786469

>>8786296
Imagine posting this while using a half decade out-of-date version of MAME. You actually have brain rot.

>>8786413
Why don't you follow the sequence of replies you fucking smoothbrain imbecile? In RetroArch (which you are replying to), support files must be in the same folder as the game zip file.

>> No.8786556

>install core
>drag and drop
>it works

>> No.8786573

>Put rom in rom folder
>Sort by avaliable
>Play game
woah so hard...

>> No.8786605

>>8786286
It's just more accurate to record at a higher framerate so you can see exactly when the button is compressed and when the screen reacts. Across dozens of samples, the input lag was about 14ms average for DKC, and that's including display and controller lag (i.e. it's button-to-pixel)

>> No.8786606

>>8786157
Anon, you mentioned Akai katana removal! Is there some kind of list for these removed games ?

>> No.8786653

>>8786606
This is the first time I've heard of it, and this was because of some C&D from a publisher. ddpsdoj was also removed, but you can actually still play it by changing the name to dfkbl

>> No.8786679

>>8786047
seriously. we have one of these gay threads almost every day made by retards that don't know how to use computers. can we just isolate them and then filter that one thread?

>> No.8786713

>>8786679
These threads are all being made by one person

>> No.8786727

>>8786043
Download X version set
Download X version of mame to match
Everything just werks, simple as

>> No.8786734

What the fuck is this thread? I set up mame, dumped the ROMs in the ROM folder, pressed F5 and they all appeared. Click the game I want to play and that's it.

>> No.8786738

>>8786713
made by one extremely autistic retard who can't figure anything out. definitely uses windows

>> No.8786747

>>8786043
>not having a CD from 2003 with every good mame rom ever
Do you even try?

>> No.8786749

My biggest issue with MAME is
>anything 3D game newer than like 2002 doesn't work because there's no hardware acceleration

>> No.8786770

>>8786749
works on my machine.

>> No.8786812

>>8786770
So, you can run the arcade version of Soul Calibur 3 on MAME?

>> No.8786863

>>8786812
>>8786749
yes, what kind of shitbox do you have that can't do this? why is it always one guy who can't get working what the rest of us already have working?

>> No.8786873

>>8786446
It's simply not well implemented and feels like you're launch into MAME with its own rules for display, input, and audio with the Libretro API. It doesn't leverage the API well at all. It can't reward or run-ahead or anything. The marriage of retropad and MAME's input system is a goddamn clusterfuck.

>> No.8786878

>>8786873
*rewind, *launching. Anyway. It's an uncanny feeling compared to most cores. Like you're virtualizing MAME or something. It doesn't feel or act like it should.

>> No.8786880

>>8786873
>feels like you're launch into MAME with its own rules
Yeah. Because that is exactly what you are doing. It's the one of the worst cores. I wouldn't even call it a port. The two projects just don't mix. Anyone who recommends using MAME in RetroArch doesn't have the slightest idea what they're talking about. You gain absolutely nothing from doing that except more problems.

>> No.8786907

>>8786727
>spend 500 hours downloading a romset for games you will never bother to play

>> No.8786913

>>8786863
you are a liar, you're not running that game

>> No.8786915

>>8786913
oh? ok, cya

>> No.8786920

I was doing this shit when I was a tween in the early 00s lol OP is retard

>> No.8786926

>>8786920
Um, excuse me but the correct turn of phrase is: "OP is a faggot." Mind the difference. Thank you, have a nice day.

>> No.8786936

Don’t mind if I use your shit thread to ask for help. I can’t get the Punisher to run, I installed cps2 (I think that’s what it was called) and several bioses, but it just refuses to load.
Any ideas?

>> No.8786938

>>8786926
no, OP is not a faggot, OP is a mentally ill transsexual twisted by drugs and surgery

>> No.8786940

>>8786863
Post specs, and a .webm of you launching the game from MAME and playing a round.

>> No.8786943

>>8786880
>>8786873
So it's exactly as it should be? RetroArch is a front-end as it should be. You can access the config menu and adjust settings from there or do it within RetroArch itself.

The rebinding is a bit stupid because MAME is supposed to include individualized controller like all other cores, but it doesn't really matter because Arcade games only use a few buttons. Just take the button that does action X and swap it to the button you want it on. You can save individualized bindings for each game. You can also use the Select + Triangle config menu to rebind within the internal MAME menu as well if you want.

>>8786878
>It doesn't feel or act like it should.
Do you have literally *anything* to substantiate that at all? It feels perfectly fine to me. The frame-pacing, exact frame-rate, game speed, input latency and audio latency all function exactly as they should. You might not have something configured correctly.

>> No.8786953

>>8786940
>PROVE you run a VIDEO GAME
are retards on this board serious?

>> No.8786960

>>8786953
I just want to see what you're doing that I need to do differently.

>> No.8786962

>>8786960
you'll never be a real gamer

>> No.8786969

Easy here. https://archive.org/details/internetarcade?&sort=-week&page=2

easy way to just play something.

>> No.8786976

>>8786943
Dude, just stop. You have no idea what you're even talking about. Like if you can't see these problems your use cas is obviously so surface level that you have no business lecturing others about MAME. If it works well enough for you, fine. So be it. For many others it does not. It's a bad core and that's that. It's no a fully ported in the sense of the Libretro API and that causes problems. It's just a hack job to tick off MAME as one of the available emulators in RetroArch eventhough it's POS. It's not even so much that they're lazy or anything about it - eventhough they could've done a better job. The two projects don't go well together by their very nature. Some projects just don't make much sense. Some endavours are doomed to fail. Jamming MAME into RA makes no sense. It's completely unnecessary. They only do it because they think it looks bad if they don't have it. Yeah it runs. Is it usable if you want just one other single thing from it than to boot a ROM? No. Not at all. RetroArch shines as a frontend for home console emulation. That is a entirely different world from what the MAME project is about.

>> No.8786983

>>8786943
I just don't see much point in it, really. It doesn't leverage RA in any way that improves it, except maybe the shaders. I use CRT-geom-deluxe in both MAME and RA, so that advantage isn't there. I don't even think the core is any less latent than standalone thanks to the -lowlatency feature cutting lag down in newer MAME builds. There's no run-ahead support. As far as convenience goes, I find Arcade64 to be better in that regard. I recall there being some sound clipping/crunch issues last I used the core. Adding extensions such as the history dat file is also a little trickier (but possible) in RA. It previously had some issues changing and keeping inputs, but I'm sure that's been fixed.

Anyway. I'm sure it's fine, it just feels like an incomplete core compared to the others. It hands off so many of Libretro's usual duties and I'm sure this adds to lag too. Need to test that further.

>> No.8786997

>>8786976
I agree in all ways except RA's DOSbox Pure, Amiga, and C64 cores are all pretty great now. So it can do some non-console stuff too.

>> No.8787014

>>8786983
Last time I tried there was a ton of hardcoded stuff that they didn't touch when "porting" MAME over to the Libretro API resulting in a lot of conflicts. Input configuration was just one big clusterfuck.

The core just behaved like a standalone MAME installation inside your RetroArch directory. Meaning it creates unique cfg file for every single game you launch - and it does so with a completely seperate directory structure all its own carried over directly from standalone. That is NOT how RetroArch usually handles things. There was a ton of others issues as well, like the tab menu. The fact that it's even still there goes to show that this is not a full port. Usually all that stuff would go work through RetroArch's Quick Menu. Do you have any idea how much work that would be? Completely unfeasable. Not to mention that last time I tried the MAME tab menu's resolution was so busted you couldn't even read anything bc it was so blurry. It quickly became clear to me that this core is not up to standard.

>> No.8787030

>>8786997
Yeah, I probably should've said "mainly home console emulation" but I also don't have much experience with any of those cores you mentioned. I do love MS-DOS games though.

>> No.8787035

>>8786653
>Akai katana
>current rights holder is exA-Arcadia
>which is founded and owned by Eric “ShouTime” Chung
>which was the same guy who attempted to get Sega Sonic Bros hoarded and kept out of MAME
>who sent a fake C&D claiming to be from SEGA to get the MAME people to take Sega Sonic Bros out
So to summerize, ShouTime is a hoarding faggot who got cut off from other hoarders since he "accidentally" let Sega Sonic Bros get dumped and Guru published it despite ShouTime's whining. It appears ShouTime has decided to take revenge by hunting down old arcade games and buying the rights, then sending C&D's to the MAME devs about the games he buys.
I'm halfway tempted to compile a version of MAME 0.240 that changes the name of the program to "ShouTime is a FAGGOT" and bundle it with Akai Katana and Dodonpachi Saidaioujou, and post it as "ShouTimeIsAFaggot.7z".

>> No.8787038

>>8787035
[read in BigBlue voice]

>> No.8787040

>>8786976
>Dude, just stop. You have no idea what you're even talking about. Like if you can't see these problems your use cas is obviously so surface level that you have no business lecturing others about MAME. If it works well enough for you, fine. So be it. For many others it does not. It's a bad core and that's that.
Again, you stupid fucking faggot... NAME ONE FUCKING SPECIFIC CONCRETE EXAMPLE OF HOW IT IS ACTUALLY FUCKING WORSE IN RETROARCH

Christ you stupid little fucking faggots over here with your vague generalizations and patronizing bullshit. Fucking kill yourself you braindead cunt. Just because it doesn't have advantages doesn't mean it's WORSE in RetroArch and that's why you can't fucking name anything.

A major advantage of RetroArch is one consolidated program and UI for all your emulators, and that's why people use RetroArch with MAME. If I'm playing one Arcade game with FB Neo, I don't want to exit out, open a new program, use a totally different UI just to play another Arcade game that requires MAME

>>8786983
Yeah, the MAME team really just hates RetroArch, and FB Neo works much better in RetroArch for the games that support it, and is also lower input lag (inherently plus support for run-ahead). Individualized controller rebindings and dip switches are literally built into the quick menu for each game which is nice.

>> No.8787041

>>8787035
>I'm halfway tempted to...
If that's what you want to do with your freetime. I'm not stopping you.

>> No.8787043

I wish a standalone MAME existed on vita I hate retroarch so much

>> No.8787045

>>8787040
>NAME ONE FUCKING SPECIFIC CONCRETE EXAMPLE OF HOW IT IS ACTUALLY FUCKING WORSE IN RETROARCH

I did, tranny. A couple in fact >>8787014

>> No.8787070

>>8787035
>they sell some multiple arcade machine setup
>totally NOT MAME you guize!
I'd like to see the MAME team disassemble the firmware/OS of this machine, just to see how much MAME code the faggot stole.

>> No.8787089

>>8787045
>MAME is worse in RetroArch than standalone because this feature functions like standalone
See
>Just because it doesn't have advantages doesn't mean it's WORSE in RetroArch and that's why you can't fucking name anything.
Retard fuck

Also most of this shit is just outright wrong anyways..

The tab menu resolution should be the native aspect ratio of the game. If you want to change the aspect ratio of the game while not affecting the tab menu ratio, you should adjust the aspect ratio within the MAME tab menu rather than RetroArch itself (not that it actually matters... since if you aren't using the MAME tab menu, then you don't care what the MAME tab menu looks like...)

The core config files and game remap files save literally identically to EVERY OTHER FUCKING CORE (within the MAME folder in config, and within the MAME folder in remaps respectively). In fact, FB Neo is the ONLY core that does not follow this, and instead uses one consolidated config file for everything, with each game having its own unique lines (and this is what allows it to have individualized settings and controls per-game, something that is unique to FB Neo)

Again, you cannot name a single fucking disadvantage of it that is not just "this is too similar to standalone" and it's not like you have to even use the tab menu at all. Basically everything RetroArch can do for any other core (like resolution, aspect ratio, scaling, sync to exact framerate, filters, shaders, audio adjustment, rebinding, etc.) can all be done with MAME within RetroArch itself (which is how I do it, because I like one consolidated UI instead of a dozen different ones for every emulator)

You patronize me yet you are fucking clueless when it comes to RetroArch. Fucking assclown.

>> No.8787095

>>8786043
I just use Nebula instead. Yeah, it hasn't been updated since 2007, but all the games it runs came out before then, so it's fine. FBA and Winkawaks are backup for anything that won't run in that...and then if nothing else works, MAME GUI. I think my version of MAME is pretty ancient, from like a decade ago and unless something doesn't work, I see no need to upgrade it, since the devs care more about accuracy than making sure you can play the games.

>> No.8787112

>>8786907
500 hours? More like 2 or 3. And I have 44TB of storage, what the fuck do I care about 100GB? Besides, I enjoy loading random games. Some of my favorite arcade games were found this way by just loading random ones. Would have never played things like RayForce or Zoo Keeper otherwise.

>> No.8787130

>>8787040
Man, you stupid fuck! Do you know anything? Do you regularly just run your mouth extra loud hoping that won't get you called out on how much of noob you are? MAME core abides almost none of API's standards. Not even cheats work the same way as in other cores. You're talking out of your ass the entire time yet you are seemingly using these programs since last week, if even that. Like you're that extra special type of annoying dumbass. Everybody just exchanges glances with each otehr and they know what's up.

>> No.8787157

Imagine being filtered by needing to read documentation for half an hour in order to play 10000 free games.

>> No.8787176

>>8786938
ESL piece of shit

>> No.8787286

>>8787176
>calls others ESL because she can't read english
wew

>> No.8787368

>>8786157
>don't upgrade to MAME .241
.240 actually, so it looks like the last non-pozzed version of MAME is 0.239.
Anybody downloading full rom sets take note of this before you delete your old roms.
>-cv1k: remove Akai Katana and Dodonpachi Saidaioujou following a request by exA-Arcadia, current rightholders [Olivier Galibert]
https://www.mamedev.org/releases/whatsnew_0240.txt

>> No.8787374

>>8787368
>.240 actually, so it looks like the last non-pozzed version of MAME is 0.239.
what does this mean? what's wrong with MAME? why is it pozzed?

>> No.8787393

>>8787374
They removed support for a couple of games in version 0.240 because they got a takedown request from the copyright holder. So you're going to need to keep 0.239 or earlier around if you want to play them.
This sets a bad precedent and may open the floodgates to more removed games because of copyright bullshit.

>> No.8787405

>>8787393
what games? also, how can they do that? mame is just an emulator, it doesn't contain games. that's not exactly legal i thought, i thought it was ruled a long time ago that emulators are perfectly legal

>> No.8787410

>>8787405
>what games?
see >>8787368
It's not really a legal challenge either, the devs said it's policy to remove a game if they get a request from the copyright holder

>> No.8787415

>>8787393
>>8787374
I noticed ddpdojblk doesn't work on MAME now and shows a blank black screen (like Akai Katana and ddpsdoj when they were removed). It's also been completely removed from the MAME merged set. What happened here? Why can't I find any news on why it was removed?

>> No.8787439

>>8787410
is these the only games that have ever been removed?

>> No.8787441

>>8787415
I didn't even know about this until the guy at the top of the thread mentioned it, so these "mame bad" threads are good for something.
Found link on le reddit.
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/commit/54899379258a7266db8d5bc6cda8b48169e67503
The code change with some discussion from the devs and somebody linked to the C&D letter

>> No.8787463

My dad could figure MAME in 1997, what's your excuse, OP?

>> No.8787476

>>8787014
>Last time I tried there was a ton of hardcoded stuff that they didn't touch when "porting" MAME over to the Libretro API
>That is NOT how RetroArch usually handles things

On the contrary anon, that's how RA has handled things.
A lot of the bad rep RA receives comes from that, that and the bullying and stalking incidents.

>>8787368
>.240 actually, so it looks like the last non-pozzed version of MAME is 0.239.

The entire project is pozzed by now, just download an older version, from .239 and backwards, you will hardly find the time to througly play all the games it already supports, almost all the good stuff from the late 70s to the late 90s, in a near perfect state.

>> No.8787495

>>8787405
precisely, in their narrow vision of the world the mame retards are setting a very nasty precedent

>> No.8787510

>>8786157
>4. Know the associated .zip filenames for these games (e.g Metal Slug 2 is mslug2.zip). You can find what games have what filenames on Arcade Italia or EE
>NOTE: YOU CANNOT CHANGE THESE FILENAMES AT ALL OR HAVE UNZIPPED FILES IF YOU WANT MAME OR FB NEO TO RECOGNIZE THEM
So, just like mame, I still can't play ROM hacks on it, it's the same garbage basically.
Wtf would I trannyarch over it them?

>> No.8787525

>>8787368
Lmao this is totally cucked, so we're basically stuck with abadonware now? When it comes the time .240 (or .239, whatever) gets too outdated for modern hardware or current emulation status, we are fucked and bye bye for anyone who want to play those two games?
Can't trannies develop a new emulator or some shit? Ffs.

>> No.8787572

>>8787393
>This sets a bad precedent and may open the floodgates to more removed games because of copyright bullshit.
Nah, MAME has removed games before. Sega Sonic Bros was nuked before the next release of MAME happened, and now it's a part of the set.
>>8787405
MAME team goes along with it since they don't want to make waves, and have no money for legal issues.
>>8787525
You can download the source of older versions just the same as the current source. 0.239 will have the ROM definitions in the code needed to have MAME recognize the game and hook it to the correct driver(cv1k IIRC). Much like how you could have Sega Sonic Bros by adding in the code, you'll be able to do the same with these two games. Just copy+paste the bits needed into the current release, and compile. Boom, you have a copy of the current release of MAME that supports these two games. The only people this is preventing from playing these games are the people who can only download the pre-compiled MAME.
That's the great part about open-source stuff like MAME. If the devs make a change you don't like, you can change it back.

>> No.8787580

>>8787572
>defending censorship
eat shit and die bootlicker

>> No.8787581

>>8787580
>tell you how to get around it
>defending censorship
Grow a brain retard.

>> No.8787625

>>8787572
>Just copy+paste the bits needed into the current release, and compile
you don't get the point do you, proprietard

>> No.8787631

>>8787625
I doubt you have a point, or you would have posted it.

>> No.8787732

>>8787525
Run your emulator in an emulator or like the other guy said use the code from an old version and recompile. I was reading that mame removed all Cave games around 2010 and those were added back in. They might put these games back in once the company that threatened to sue them fucks off.

>> No.8787838

I’m really glad I got the shmup mame build when I did so I never need to fuck with this stuff again.

>> No.8788317

>>8786270
There is also an even more accurate form of emulation: circuit accurate. In such emulators, not only is every single machine cycle emulated perfectly, every single internal component, down to logic gates, is also emulated.

However, this requires such an ungodly amount of computing power that it's not feasible on current PC hardware. Besides, cycle accuracy is already enough to guarantee that the experience is going to be indistinguishable from the original hardware: the same exact inputs are going to produce the same exact outputs, every time.

>> No.8788387

The main problem is the lack of organized, simplified, start-up tutorials. If someone can make a hack of an arcade game and get it to run despite not being in the "set", then it shouldn't be too hard to properly explain how to get old dumps to work in newer versions. The problem being that they're all the "gatekeepers" whining about "gatekeeping", so HBMAME has to exist with an entirely different ROM set of 1000's of arcade hacks, homebrew & bootlegs that relatively few people know about that will never be added to the main MAME.
The arcade emu scene is filled with pretentious douchebags.

>> No.8788561

>>8786157
>mame is easy!
>dumps 2 walls of text
literal unfiltered autism

>> No.8788810

>>8788561
Literally just download a rom set and the same version of the emulator to match
Its that fucking simple
KYS

>> No.8788842

some Atari games that worked on the mouse no longer do. any ideas?
games are Marble Madness, I Robot and Paperboy

>> No.8788856

>get latest romdump torrent
>put it in fucking roms/
>run mame
>type the name of the game you want to play
>play the game
SO FUCKING HARD BAWWW

>> No.8788862

>>8786157
Just get ARCADE64, it still has Akai Katana, DDPSDOJ and filter useless content

>> No.8788880

>>8788862
>ARCADE64
Wish more people knew about this version of mameui. Far the best one for just simply playing arcade games and not dealing with the cherry games, pinball, etc.

>> No.8788902

>load up arcade game from 1982
>”There are known problems with this machine. Imperfectly emulated features: sound, graphics”
>on a 40 year old game
>it’s STILL not perfectly emulated
>let me just reiterate, this is a 40 year old, extremely common game and the it’s STILL imperfectly emulated
>ON A GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING 40 YEAR OLD GODDAMN GAME
>”just emulate bro”

>> No.8788904

>>8786157
>retroarch
kill yourself anon

>> No.8788908

>>8786169
Just download FBNeo standalone. You don't need that piece of shit that is retroarch

>> No.8788920

>>8788902
the meme devs are exactly that : memes

>> No.8788932

>>8788902
So fucking fix it. Oh wait, you can't? You don't know enough about the hardware to get it working and can't find anything about the hardware to make it any better? WELL NEITHER CAN THE FUCKING MAME DEVS YOU LITTLE SHIT WHICH IS WHY IT'S IMPERFECTLY EMULATED.
Mame emulates hardware. The fact that it happens to run games is a nice side effect. What that means is you get the most perfect emulation possible but maybe a few games aren't perfect.
Deal with it.

>> No.8788942

>>8788856
sure if you want some imperfectly running game, you need to spend hours tweaking the settings by which time you dont even want to play anymore.
mame a shit

>> No.8788957

>>8788942
>hours tweaking the settings
The only actual settings you might need to fix are controls for certain games. What the fuck kind of settings are you talking about tweaking? Shit works out of the box.
You've never actually used MAME.

>> No.8788970

>>8788957
these settings
https://docs.mamedev.org/advanced/index.html

>> No.8788981

>go to town on my horse and cart
>horse needs a new shoe
>stop by blacksmith
>blacksmith is gone
>its a sandwich place now
>ask what happened to the smith
>I don't know anyone called smith
>what would you like to order sir
>starting to get annoyed
>ask who can look at my cart
>try the garage sir
>go to the garage
>guy in overalls comes out
>ask him if he has an anvil
>looks at me like I'm retarded
>we don't do that
>we only service cars
>no, you're just a bunch of lazy assholes
>if you can service a car how hard is it to service a horse and cart
>his bullshit begins
>cars work better than horses and they're easier to maintain
>ask him why he can't help with my car
>because that's not a car, it's a horse
>no-one services horses any more
>where am I supposed to get a car then
>try archive.org, just type in garage carset 0.242 and it'll come right up
>fuck that, you're making this too difficult
>pass the sewage plant on the way home
>stop and talk to the owner
>tells me the garage is running a scam
>forcing everyone to upgrade to cars
>says the best horses were born in 2003 and eat a diet of rapsberries
>they're more prone to crashing but they have better reaction times
>ask him to prove it
>shows me a slow-motion video of DKC filmed with a highspeed camera
>that's not what I meant, and the ghosting looks like shit
>his mom comes out and calls him in for dinner
>asks me to support him on patreon as he waddles away

>> No.8788986

>>8788970
>thinking tweaking ADVANCED settings are necessary to just play games
You fucking brainless dope.

>> No.8788998

>>8788902
That can usually be ignored and the broken shit will almost surely slip past your midwit perception. Unless there's a commercially sold version that emulates it better (usually not the case) you have no alternatives.

>> No.8789002

>>8788986
>being happy with the vanilla experience
what a casual, go back to /v/

>> No.8789012

My 70 year old father got mame working and he's the type of person that when he sends an email he types it like the email service is a secretary. Like "send these pictures to anon" or "tell anon to give me a call".

>> No.8789037

This thread perfectly exemplifies why this entire board just just be deleted.

>> No.8789053

>>8788998
Or, how about THEY DUMP THE GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING ROM CORRECTLY IN THE GODDAMN FIRST PLACE? HOW THE GODDAMN FUCK ABOUT THAT?

>> No.8789059

>>8788842
You may just need to go in to the options and enable mouse support if you're using MAMEUI/Arcade64 or whatever.
Joystick and mouse isn't enabled by default

>> No.8789062

>>8788902
Mind you anon, they'll have that message for even the tiniest of things that your average player would never notice. Tell me anon, could you even tell what the "issue" was?

>> No.8789065

>>8789053
The issue is usually on the side of murky chip docs and copy protection which isn't meant to be figured out at all.

>> No.8789071

>>8789053
they also have an autistic tendency to want to emulate without game specific workarounds which means shit will be left broken forever, as they never were able to solve the problem in a game-agnostic way. I think this approach is fundamentally flawed for certain games, because even though they might use standard parts they'll often be tweaked just-so. See: almost every Konami game.

>> No.8789093

>>8786043
>>8786104
How the fuck do you retards manage to fail at setting up FUCKING MAME ?
Even ePSXe is harder.

>> No.8789385

>>8788981
updating mame in a nutshell

>> No.8789404

>>8786169
>consistent and intuitive interface
*that crashes constantly even on a fresh install

>> No.8789416

>yay lets post on the cool site 4chan! can't wait to be an epic memer
>can't find account registration
>give up on meme dreams
This sounds like you.

>> No.8789438

>>8789059
And if enabling mouse doesn't work, also enable multi mouse. Mame was being retarded and detected my mouse as Mouse 2. If you check the game's config file it will say something like MOUSE_2_X

>> No.8789547

>>8788561
I didn't say it was easy, and that's for both FB Neo and MAME. But I think it's worth it because there are so many great Arcade games worth playing.

>> No.8789639

>>8788561
It's not the simplest way to use Mame, but why would he write a guide for that? Who the fuck needs a guide to set up regular Mame? If you can't put roms in a folder I don't think a guide will help much.

>> No.8789650

Works fine for me.

>> No.8789965

>>8788942
>you need to spend hours tweaking mame
>i HAVE to change ALL settings and absolutely under NO circumstance can I use defaults
RETARD

>> No.8790903

>>8789965
mame nigger being mame nigger, a classic.

>> No.8790935

>>8790903
retard that doesn't know how to use mame strikes again. hey mame retard, when this thread dies are you going to make another immediately again with the same exact subject?

>> No.8790942

So I checked archive for rom, why are there so many romset versions?
For consoles I just look fot nointro stuff and I will know its a proper dump
Whats up with this shit, and why do these dumps have so many weird files

>> No.8791273

>>8790935
nigger I don't need to learn programming to use an emulator, sorry your nigger brain is eugenically lower IQ so you have to cling into useless bullshit like this to feel smart.

>> No.8791287

>>8786109
It doesn't

>> No.8791345

>>8786043
>I'm a zoomer retard: the post

>> No.8791356

>>8786239
Emulation is only getting better.
It's not a question of if, but when emulation will be perfected.

>> No.8791706

>>8790942
MAME devs got into a habit of lazily-named zip files. They'll never bother fixing it to be less retarded, so each new release is going to be like lyftyd4.zip & bbc5.zip. You better not complain about our holiest arcade overlords or you'll be SHUNNED.

>> No.8791963

>>8791273
>changing a setting is programming
this is why you're a retard, and we all know you're a retard.

>> No.8791986

>>8791706
>lazily named
They're named because they maintain compatibility with file systems that limit the number of characters in a file name (like DOS did) so MAME can run on literally anything anyone wants to port it to.
For fuck's sake, take a moment to think before you spew your uneducated bullshit, kids.

>> No.8792058

>>8791706
holy shit you're dumb

>> No.8792140

>>8789438
>you need to enable multiple mouse option to use the mouse
ah, so obvious. thanks mame devs!

>> No.8792150

>>8791986
Okay, keep a fork of the files named and structured in this stinky way for the two people who do it that way, and make a version that people would find actually useful

>> No.8792181
File: 1.53 MB, 4032x3024, mame_redpill.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8792181

>go on archive.org
>download latest version mame romset
>it just werkz

>> No.8792195

>>8791986
>maintain compatibility with file systems that limit the number of characters in a file name (like DOS did)
>a2bufgrapplerplus.zip

Then they failed. The only reason they look like that is because all they need is a unique identifier using characters that all systems support without being absurdly long to the point where even modern OS filesystems start bitching.

You're expected to couple the romset with the database for that romset which links the identifier to the name, version, developer, date, etc... You can't reasonably put all that information in the file name.

>> No.8792203

does the shit state of mame mean consolebros win again?

>> No.8792285

>>8792203
Yes, being too stupid for mame and playing the SNES port of Street Fighter II means you win

>> No.8792370

>>8792203
Yes, but PC wins harder.
>>8792285
>Shit Fighter 2
kys.
The majority of the best games in the world are console & PC exclusives that never had a quarter-munching arcade version, and this will always be an objective fact.

>> No.8792371

>>8792370
>SNES exclusives
ahhh, a jarpig I see

>> No.8792375

>>8792371
Super Mario World & Super Metroid > Shit Fighter
kys, again.

>> No.8792436
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8792436

>>8792375
SMW at least was on the NSS. That version was in MAME way even before they added consoles.

>> No.8792439

>>8792436
>sega system btfo

>> No.8792471

>>8792370
Before 5th gen ideal of consoles was to be "the arcade at home". I think zoomzoom enjoys le rpgs.

>> No.8792525

>>8792471
If it means setting up the most irritating emu imaginable, I'd rather play the Speccy. Nice meme, though. I'm sure arcades had tons of Doom versions, Command & Conquer & other FPS & RTS games, too.
Super Castlevania 4, Donkey Kong Country 2 & tons of things with no arcade version makes a mockery of most of the arcade library as well.

>> No.8792542

>I want to play arcadez
>"download a rom set with a mame emulator"
>ok
>Its missing a few games I want
>get other games
>"you need xxx.chd"
> download chd/rom set
> now previous games dont work

98% of other systems its just 'get emu, get rom', but for mame some neckbeards act like simplifying arcade emulating is a personal affront to them.

>> No.8792552

>>8786043
Have one of those cheap chinese handhelds and it came with a bunch of emulators and ROMs, including MAME. Trying to launch a game is fucking impossible. It says press X to launch, so I do and nothing happens. I press every single button combination and it just won't launch. Then sometimes it just suddenly works. Fucking piece of shit software.

FUCK MAME.

>> No.8792557

I hate brainlets so much it's unreal.

>> No.8792584

>>8792542
>now previous games dont work
I can't even figure out what you fucked up here. Did you download a newer version of mame? Did you overwrite your old roms with roms from a newer set, but you're still trying to use the old version of mame?
>but for mame some neckbeards act like simplifying arcade emulating is a personal affront to them.
If you don't like it you can make your own mame. You're not Mame's "customer" the devs don't have to give a fuck if you like it or not.

>> No.8792595

>download mame roms
>270GB
>yikes! er OK this better be worth it
>whats this? I need CHDs too?
>download size : 2.5 TERRABYTES
>fuck me ? seriously?
>2 days of downloading later
>99% of games dont even work
FUCK YOU UP THE ASS MAME

>> No.8792639

>>8792595
Stop downloading rom packs.

>> No.8792642

>>8792595
Last time I checked the Roms were under 70 GB and the CHD set is around 580 GB.
Maybe you're downloading the "full retard" complete version that has full sets of roms for every computer and game console that mame emulates? Mame's emulation for those usually sucks balls compared to other emulators.
You want to play arcade games without issues, get a full rom set but not the fuckhuge one that includes every rom for every game console.
CHD sets are actually waste of space. Not "boohoo over 100 MB of slot machines I will never play is triggering my autism" but multiple 12GB dumps of laserdisc games that will never work properly. Check a compatibility list and individually download those chds, the games that actually work have the smaller chds.

>> No.8792767

>>8791986
>crippling the software for 99.9% of people so the .1% of retards using 30 year old dinosaur hardware can still run the games, except their potato is incapable of running any of them full speed anyways
bravo

>> No.8792773

>>8792767
nothing is crippled, are you fucking stupid? what the hell are you talking about? what's the issue?

>> No.8792790

>>8792773
You have to literally look up every single fucking game and the variants because the naming system is such a clusterfuck. And then in instances of something of ddpsdoj you have to put it in a new fucking folder just for that one game because you can't have two dfkbl filenames. Or when testing merged vs. nonmerged, you always have to keep them in separate folders since they have the same filename.

Literally every single other emulator you can change the filename to whatever you want so you can have those custom names saved. For MAME, you have to keep an associated RetroArch playlist file and it's a pain in the ass to update constantly

But yep you're going to make some excuse how this retarded ass backwards bullshit that no other emulator does is actually the *right* way. Fuck off

>> No.8792806

>>8792790
what in the fuck are you going on about? are you OP? you are OP, aren't you, you absolutely stupid fucking idiot, holy fuck. MAME resolves this problem for you automatically. HOLY SHIT YOU'RE FUCKING DUMB

>> No.8792856

>>8792790
Dump all the roms from a non-merged update set to a separate folder. Add that folder as an additional roms path in mame. Mame picks the correct files automatically.
I know some people like to use fancy programs that update the set or whatever, but since a couple of games have been removed for copyright issues, that method sucks now. Are those programs going to delete the roms because they're not supported by mame anymore? Overcomplicated method proven gay again.

>> No.8792916

>>8792806
Hey stupid fucking cocksucking bootlicking retard: 1) I want custom names that I choose and 2) I want my actual game files in the folder to have their custom names (because this is what I backup). I don't want to have to use MAME's proprietary built-in search feature with default names for all my games.

I've already figured it out and have my own method. It's just a pain because I have to update my playlist file-anytime I add new games

>> No.8792919

>>8792916
>1) I want custom names that I choose
no too bad
>and 2) I want my actual game files in the folder to have their custom names (because this is what I backup).
no too bad

so again, WHY do you need this? are you gay? why can't you just unzip the romset into the rom folder and that's literally it? why are you this stupid? no one is doing what you're doing, dumbbell, get it through your fucking retarded faggot skull, you STUPID ANGRY BROWN

>> No.8792967

>>8791986
No, it's done like that since most MAME dev is done at the command line, and typing in mslug.zip is easier than typing in Metal_Slug.zip. Plus without spaces and special characters in the name, they don't have to worry about Linux and Windows handling special characters differently.

>>8792150
Fork away, no one is stopping you.

>>8792542
Everyone fucking tells you to match the romset to the version of MAME you have. Why do retards like you keep pretending that EVERYONE on the fucking internet isn't screaming at you to follow instructions both children and technologically challenged elderly people can follow? Every time one of you mouth breathers post some whine, its always the same shit. "WAH I DOWNLOADED RANDOM VERSION ROMS WITH THE LATEST MAME, NOTHING WORKS REEEEEE!" Yes, we get it, you are too stupid to live. Fuck off already.

>>8792790
>>8792916
Every non-arcade emulator is running whatever you throw at it, at a single emulated machine. MAME needs to know what arcade machine it's emulating. Instead of expecting you to be smart enough to pick the right system, it just checks the name and ties that .zip of roms to the proper machine driver. If you want MAME to behave differently, fork it and make the changes you want to see. We both know you're too retarded to code, since you can't even figure out how to work MAME.

>> No.8793035

>>8792919
>WHY do you need this?
I'm guessing: Retroarch tard. That's why he's talking about using custom playlists.
Mame doesn't work great with Retroarch, tough shit It's your problem to find workarounds if you want to use it. Maybe find a port of mame for your device instead.

>> No.8793061

>>8793035
what's the point of retroarch when mame exists?

>> No.8793082

>>8792967
youre currently the saltiest nigger on vr. do the mame guys pay for slobbering their balls, or do you just do it gratis?

>> No.8793213

>>8793082
MAME & RetroArch are equally shit for the purpose of playing arcade games. MAME devs want to pretend they can one-up RetroArch and say how terrible it is on /r/emulation & Twitter, but then they're still Reddit Royalty, where their updooting army keeps coming into this thread to proclaim the greatness and flawlessness of the software.
That then becomes MAME's primary appeal as the devs & userbase spend more time jerking each other off on Twitter & Reddit over their hatred of RetroArch's devs than they actually improve anything and have to "remove" game compatibility from their listing due to Copyright nonsense. It's not RetroArch, so everything that's wrong with it is actually perfection.

>> No.8793254

>>8793082
>>8793213
>Should I fork MAME and make it work the way I want it to?
>No, better to just keep screaming that everyone else is retarded and hope someone else will do it for me.
Only absolute retards complain about open source software where you can literally change whatever you want to suit you. Keep on bitching about a problem you could solve if you actually cared about it.

>> No.8793274

>>8793213
Works on my machine.

>> No.8793275

>>8793254
So, MAME devs can bitch about RetroArch, which is open source?
I'd love to "steal" MAME's code and sell it despite their faggot license so they can SEETHE and cope with the rest of you hypocritical degenerates.

>> No.8793293

>>8793275
Please show me where the MAME devs main complaint about RA is how RA itself functions. Last I checked their bitch about RA was that retards use the RA MAME cores the RA devs made, and then cry to the MAME devs about "updating their MAME core!" Which the MAME devs never made or want anything to do with. That isn't even the same type of complaint as your retarded shit.
If you wanna try a "gotcha", you could at least try to know what you are talking about.

>> No.8793354

>>8790942
You can literally do the same for mame anon.....
And bad example since you can have like 20 dumps of a single game for consoles as well. Alt dumps, reversions, bad dumps, etc, etc

>> No.8793359

>>8792790
Christ you're a fucking retard

>> No.8793375
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8793375

>>8793293
https://twitter.com/search?q=from:mamehaze%20retroarch&src=typed_query
This is just scraping the surface. It'd be nice to know what they're saying in private chats.

>> No.8793391

>>8793375
>complaining that RA devs are assholes
>not complaining about how the program itself works
Are you ESL? Can you follow a basic conversation?
>>8793293
>Please show me where the MAME devs main complaint about RA is how RA itself functions.

Can one single one of you whiny "WAH MAME SUCKS" faggots actually make a decent argument, or follow a conversation without trying to pull a bait and switch like some 10 year old?

>> No.8793392

>>8786157
>Get FB Neo core and MAME

wtf does that even mean? I do what EXACTLY?! Steps not clear enough.

>You can find what games have what filenames on Arcade Italia or EE

yeh sure let me just Google
>EE
once again I have no clue what your star trek mumbo jumbo even means.

could you try again and be more clear so people who aren't into this can actually understand what you are talking about.

>> No.8793401

>>8793391
Yes, the whole thread is a proper rebuttal to your CAPS LOCK ECKS DEE faggotry.

>> No.8793412

>>8793293
>Please show me where the MAME devs main complaint about RA is how RA itself functions.


Seriously?? You having to ask that question shows either you've no fucking idea what's going on/being talked about, or, you are doing it gratis siñor

>> No.8793413

>ip count: 60
>post count: 201
stop responding to the fucking retarded op please and thank you mongs the lot of ya

>> No.8793713

>>8793213
mame works on my machine, dunno what your problem is

>> No.8793728

people who use retroarch are beyond fucking retarded

>> No.8793730

>>8793392
>What, spoonfeeding me, yet I still have to chew? Fuck you!

>> No.8793805

I have two different versions of MAME, FBA, and FBN in my emulation folder, so all the arcade games can be played one way or another.

>> No.8793836

>>8793375
>they don't do anything
>Retroarch allows you to play multiple emulators on near any console and OS
they desperately wanted MAME to be RA didn't they

>> No.8793914

>>8786043
>download games from archive
>double click mame64.exe
>click on game in the available list
>play

literally the only remotely complicated thing is matching romset version to MAME version, and 80% of the time, an older romset version will work just fine lol

>>8786226
I've played a few 3D games in MAME, but pretty much anything more advanced than Atari's mid-late 90s 3D boards (like what Vapor TRX runs on) isn't well emulated. Vapor TRX does however, run beautifully.
A fairly hard cutoff is NAOMI board stuff -- which occasionally works despite the big red warning message... but it only gets 40% speed on a 3600X, and with some rather rough looking graphics emulation.
Still, most PS1 board stuff works just fine (even on slower machines even though MAME is not exactly fast lol) and a bunch of Namco stuff like Rave Racer and Time Crisis works fine (needs somewhat fast hardware to run smoothly).

>>8788317
yeah, circuit accurate shit is super slow
for example, you can load up Pong in MAME -- it is a full circuit-level emulation of the game, no ROMs, no CPU, and boy is it slow
not going to pretend MAME's implementation is optimized, but it gives a clear indication of just how hard it is

>> No.8793994

>>8793359
See >>8792916 and then kill yourself you cocksucking drone.

>>8792919
>>8792967
>>8793035
>>8793061
MAMEtards are truly the biggest cult of retards I've ever seen. They could spit in your face and you would still find a way to justify it and act like that's the proper way and everyone else is doing it wrong. Fucking hell, how pathetic.

Not even surprised by these responses though. You drones will defend literally ANYTHING that MAME dev team does.

>> No.8794001

>>8793994
you haven't seen the crt cargo cult? mamefags don't claim their shit is magic that can fix any issue at least, just that you're retarded
and you probably are, i'm shit with tech too so i'd know dw

>> No.8794007

>>8794001
>crt cargo cult?
What?

>> No.8794010

>>8793392
This is for RetroArch. These are the cores for RetroArch. The cores are "FB Neo" and "MAME current". If you get the Steam version, you have to copy them over from standalone because I don't think they've released on Steam version yet. No reason to use anything but RetroArch for Arcade + fifth gen and earlier.

>>EE
>once again I have no clue what your star trek mumbo jumbo even means.
EdgeEmu. You can view a list of MAME .239 games alphabetically and view the different versions with associated filenames.

>>8794001
Except I already said I know how to do it? I have everything set up exactly as I like it, I just think the design and mentality is fucking stupid and they do a lot of things ass-backwards because they're fucking stubborn cocksuckers. The guy I was responding to literally said that it was like that (all games have short ambiguous filenames that can't be edited at all) for people running 30 year old dinosaur DOS machines who can't even run the fucking games anyways. Why fuck 99.99% of users over for the .01%?

And now these trannies are censoring games too and removing them from releases going forward. Sure it's easy to get around it, but it sets a bad precedent especially when these faggots are always blurting about "MUH PRESERVATION" for why we need 900 different versions of Billy the Shithead yet they remove multiple well-known and popular games on the drop of a hat

>> No.8794035

>>8793994
get a load of this retard. pretty funny how you can't get anything to work and yet everyone else can. wonder who is the problem. just you? or literally everyone else that has it working. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I WONDER.

>> No.8794070

>>8794035
Except I already said I know how to do it? I have everything set up exactly as I like it, I just think the design and mentality is fucking stupid and they do a lot of things ass-backwards because they're fucking stubborn cocksuckers. The guy I was responding to literally said that it was like that (all games have short ambiguous filenames that can't be edited at all) for people running 30 year old dinosaur DOS machines who can't even run the fucking games anyways. Why fuck 99.99% of users over for the .01%?

And now these trannies are censoring games too and removing them from releases going forward. Sure it's easy to get around it, but it sets a bad precedent especially when these faggots are always blurting about "MUH PRESERVATION" for why we need 900 different versions of Billy the Shithead yet they remove multiple well-known and popular games on the drop of a hat

>> No.8794278

>>8787572
The only problem I have with this is how long MAME takes to compile. I'm actually compiling the source right now and it's taking forever. Thanks for the tip btw, I certainly hope I made the right changes.

>> No.8794506

>>8788862
This. It keeps CPU slider for CAVE SH2 games, even GroovyMAME removed it for no reason

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>>8793413
STOP CHATTING ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!! ONE PERSON PER POST ONLY!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

>> No.8794615

so Mame from 0.240 onwards is cucked and is removing games? so as a noob I should get 0.239 and the roms and thats it, done forever?

>> No.8794652

>>8794615
Yeah basically. MAME team is lazy sacks of shit, and their "improvements" with each new set recently is like "fixed audio that was slightly too fast for obscure game no one has ever heard of" while removing multiple games people actually play

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>>8794652
thanks

>> No.8794668

>>8786043
what were you trying to play i can give you a step by step that might help

>> No.8794685

>load up japanese arcade game
>”the selected machine is missing one or more required rom images blah blah goddamn fucking blah”
>search for the parent rom
>the parent rom is the western version of the game which came out after the japanese version and happens to have a completely different name
>soooooo, the parent rom isn’t the original game, it’s a different LATER version of the GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING GAME THAT YOU WANT TO PLAY
>THE PARENT ROM IS NOT THE GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING ORIGINAL GODDAMN GAME
so what the actual fuck is the logic behind this because so help me god I do NOT have a GODDAMN clue what they were thinking with this convoluted, cockamamie, ball-brained bullshit.

>> No.8794703

>>8794685
welcome aboard the Mame Hate Train

>> No.8794713

>>8794685
you cannot be this stupid

>> No.8794714

>>8794685
only the Mame Dev Overlords have the answers you seek, and you are not permitted to enter their inner ring of Autism until proven worthy.

you must answer several questions about the chip technology used on arcade boards between the years 1979 to 1995, ready?

>> No.8794717

>>8794685
yeah, I wanna say its a holdover from the old days where arcade collectors usually called games by their US/Europe titles (though, strangely, Puck-Man is the parent rom instead of Pac-Man on MAME)

>> No.8794720

>>8788862
What version of Arcade64 has Saidaioujou?

I'm at 0.238 with a complete set I built myself and it's not here. Akai Katana is though.

>> No.8794726

>>8794720
Oh I see, 0.238 is from November 2021. A month before the Saidaioujou rom was released.

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>>8793728

>> No.8794754

>>8786043
is this real o mental illness?

I remember playing MAME in 2003,2007 and 2010 and not having any problem. What ever happened to MAME?

>> No.8794791

>>8794754
in nutshell:
the devs are autistic so when they update mame you also have to updale the games, all of them.

>> No.8794804

>>8787463
I could figure out MAME in 7th grade

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>>8786043
Are you smarter than John Santa?

>> No.8794820

>>8794791
This goes to the rest of you dumb niggers too: you know you can just put the updated ROMs in their own folder(s) and have MAME check those too, right? It's still frustrating but it's not as bad as you guys make it up to be. Before I knew that I'd just get another matching merged set every 4 years or so.

>> No.8794875

most MAME games are released for NES anyways, so who the fuck cares.

>> No.8794878

>>8794820
Kek, I can guarantee the devs are enough of trannies to change the format to something else that neither of us want in the near future, just like when they merged MESS & MAME in the first place.

>> No.8794889

>>8794875
>wanting NES cutdown version over arcade original
nintendies will they ever learn?

>> No.8794890

>>8794889
i've played both arcade and nintendo games, there is no difference.

>> No.8794898

>>8794890
terrible bait or you're just blind. post NES game you think is identical to the arcade version

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>>8794898
this game is exactly like the arcade game.

>> No.8794914

>>8794903
NES
https://youtu.be/QMm6NIhJFJ4

Arcade
https://youtu.be/QMm6NIhJFJ4

so you're blind AND deaf?

>> No.8794919

>>8794914
you linked the same video lmao

>> No.8794923

>>8794914
whoops wrong bottom link, heres the arcade version
https://youtu.be/2jLO1upcd8w

>> No.8794924

>>8787368
>>8794652
Anywhere you can find the 0.239 romset? Archive.org doesn't have that specific version and RetroRoms only has the latest readily available.

>> No.8794932

>>8794923
ok i'll admit i was wrong, i could've sworn they were the same but i guess not.

>> No.8794938

>>8794924
I see it on torrent sites
https://idope.se/torrent-list/mame%200.239/?&o=-2

>> No.8794943

>>8794938
whats with the fucking 2 Terabyte torrent in that list?

>> No.8794946

>>8794943
those are CHD files, like hard drive files. some more modern arcade games that ran off laser disc and hard drives got quite large.

>> No.8794947

>>8794070
>Why fuck 99.99% of users over for the .01%?
fuck them over in what way? you are literally the only person they are fucking over. literally NO ONE is trying to do what you're doing. regular mame users literally unzip the collection into a folder and point mame at it or unzip it into the rom directory. no one could or should literally give a fuck about the filenames. so no, 99.99% of users are NOT fucked over, 99.99% of users are fine and the .01% is YOU.
>And now these trannies are censoring games too and removing them from releases going forward
are you stupid? this is how the law works, with ALL emulators. do you understand that they HAVE to do this or they'll get sued, this can happen with ANY emulator at ANY time, and this has happened with mame several times already, guess y ou never cared about those other times though, you probably weren't even born yet. and what happens is that they eventually add them over time, so this isn't really a problem. it's just a very delayed add. also, who gives a flying fuck, the game that wasn't added was some stupid obscure asian game as usual that no one cares about. who gives a literal shit about this issue. it doesn't set a bad precedent, this precedent has always been there. if you think mame should stand up to the law and just add whatever whenever then put up your money for their lawyers and court costs. oh, you won't? didn't think so.

>> No.8794949

>>8794946
yea fuck that i don't have 2 terabytes of free space.

>> No.8794954

>>8794949
you'll only need to get the CHD files for games you want to play, no need to get the whole thing.

>> No.8794963

>>8794954
the torrent won't even load cause of how massive it is

>> No.8794974

i've come to realize that my mame games don't work outside of MAME32 and even then i can't even change the resolution or controls.

>> No.8794980

>>8794974
what does this mean? does this also imply that you're not running a 64 bit machine in 2022?

>> No.8794982

>>8794963
download more hard drive

>> No.8794983

>>8794980
no MAME32 is the emulator

>> No.8794985

>>8794938
I know the difference between split, merged and non-merged, but what are the Software List ROMs and CHDs about? Those aren't the BIOS and other such dependencies, are they?

>> No.8794991

>>8794947
>that's how the law works
How much of a retard are you? Are you saying if Nintendo sends a DMCA to Dolphin to deliberately BREAK compatibility with Super Mario Sunshine, then they can do that? It has everything to do with their faggot filename system.
Keep slurping the devs' dicks.

>> No.8794997

>>8794985
Software List ROMs includes other consoles like SNES, PSX etc and CHDs are for games that didnt install into RAM and ran off hard drives or disc, like Dragons Lair.

>> No.8795000

>>8787415
nothing new there, just like when they took away cave cores and some other shit long ago

>> No.8795001

>>8794997
Thank you, I'll have to check what games I'm interested in require those CHDs.

>> No.8795007

>>8794983
no shit, my point is you're not using MAME64. why? are you running a 32bit only machine?

>> No.8795016

>>8794991
>Are you saying if Nintendo sends a DMCA to Dolphin to deliberately BREAK compatibility with Super Mario Sunshine, then they can do that?
yes
>It has everything to do with their faggot filename system.
no
>Keep slurping the devs' dicks.
in what way?

>> No.8795018

>>8795007
no you are still misunderstanding, the emulator is called MAME32, not because its a 32bit system, thats just what the emulator is called. If it was a 32bit application it wouldn't even work on 64 bit system.

>> No.8795024

>>8795016
Legalese nigger, then when have they done it?
I'll wait, because they never touched it, and they NEVER will.
Everything to do with the filename system.
Sony lost with suing Bleem faggot.
End of discussion.
End your life.

>> No.8795041

>>8795024
holy schizo, no wonder you made this thread, you're literally mentally ill

>> No.8795045

tried to play some arcade games here
https://www.retrogames.cc/arcade-games/g/index.html
but fuck is it laggy.

>> No.8795046

>>8795016
>yes
cuck

>> No.8795048

>>8795018
hmmmmmm. i don't get what you're saying, because there's a mame32 and a mame64. anyway, do you use the gui version? or the one from the from here: https://www.mamedev.org/release.html ?

>> No.8795049

>>8795041
I didn't make the thread, but nice cope.
I can get MAME running better than you.

>> No.8795051

>>8795046
>cuck
why? companies can do that, i have no control over that. i don't WANT them to do that, but they CAN do that. that makes ME a cuck? ok schizo

>> No.8795052

>>8795049
>I can get MAME running better than you.
this is really sad. i feel bad for you....

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>>8795048
i use this version whichever version it is, idk it was included in a MAME torrent from TPB like 3 years ago.

>> No.8795054

>>8795052
Then get out of the thread and stop spreading your bullshit lies.

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>>8795053
ok i guess it is supposed to be for 32bit, but i doubt the rom sets i have will even work on anything other then this version.

>> No.8795060

>>8795053
yup, this makes sense. yeah so there's mame32 and mame64, but there's also other gui versions now, you're way out of date. why not update? just get the official mame release on their page

>> No.8795062

>>8795060
i tried to use the same roms in retroarch and it says they are missing files, so they probably won't work in updated MAME emulators.

>> No.8795083

>>8795062
yea my roms are not being recognized in the newest mame at all.

>> No.8795089

>>8795083
which roms?

>> No.8795091

>>8795083
you gotta update your games to the version of mame you are now on, welcome aboard the Mame Hate Train

>> No.8795093

>>8795091
eh most of the games i have aren't any different from the atari games that i also have so its kind of useless anyways. I don't have anything like TMNT or simpsons.

>> No.8795123

>>8795051
did capcom remove fbanext from their capcom letter arcade stick after fba dev called them out? no. cuck

>> No.8795125

>>8795123
>did this big company with tons of money, of which mame has none, remove some thing that you never heard of in this case you don't know about?
moron

>> No.8795259

>>8794924
There's a few ways to do it. You just want to play the 2 missing games? Search ddpsdoj on archive, somebody has uploaded a bundle with arcade mame that includes them.
You could run mame 0239 with a current 0242 rom set and probably not have many issues. Add the 2 missing roms to the set. Just get both versions of mame to be sure.
I don't know where to find a full 0239 set, but on archive somebody has uploaded a bunch.
https://archive.org/details/@atrac_17_0
They have a merged 0229 full set and update sets for 0230-0239, so you could get those. Put all the update sets in separate folders and add them as additional rom paths. You don't manually overwrite files when you're updating mame roms. Not unless you have a program that does rom set merging and will update the zip files.

>> No.8795283
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8795283

Mamefriends, here's what you need to know about downloading CHDs.
adb.arcadeitalia.net
Click the menu button in the top left corner, click machines
Do what the image says, additional filters, CHD and emulation status.
Out of 846 games that use CHDs, only 279 work at all. And that includes games that are "imperfect" which can mean anything from something you won't notice, to runs like total ass but it "works".
Only 132 games are in true working status. Consider taking a look at this before you download all 580 GB of shit.

>> No.8795303

>>8795283
good point, but its worth noting that you can use some CHDs in other emulators to play stuff like sega naomi games. the only chd i keep in my mame installation is killer instinct.

>> No.8795327

>>8795058
>version 0.31
Your emulator is from 1998, that's why it doesn't work properly. I doubt the roms are in an organized set, but just give up on it and get a new version of mame and a new rom set.
Zoomers are confused about Mame32 because they've never seen a boomer version of mame. This version was made back when stock Mame was command line only. Mame32 is now called MameUI.
>>8786043
Everybody who can't figure out Mame look at this shit. People were able to set up Mame 24 fucking years ago and you can't do it.

>> No.8795332

>>8795327
i am but its taking fucking 9 hours to download this shit because no one is seeding.

>> No.8795341

>>8795332
Get a download manager and download it from archive

>> No.8795343

>>8795341
the one i'm downloading is torrent only

>> No.8795348

>>8795303
>when shit that is useless in mame is useful elsewhere
All those pinball machine roms can be used as a full rom set for Visual Pinball

>> No.8795671

>>8786043
mmmm very based thread

>> No.8795867

>>8794947
Yeah bro, only .01% of people actually want to be able to rename their files anything beyond unintelligible gibberish and rely on MAME's proprietary search to know what the fuck it is.

Kill yourself you fucking bootlicking shill faggot

>> No.8795879

>>8795867
I never look at the file names, I see the full name and details like company and year in my absolutely kino Mame interface.
This sounds like a problem with Retroarch, have you tried not using it?

>> No.8795885

>>8795879
>I see the full name and details like company and year in my absolutely kino Mame interface.
I really, REALLY hope they are paying you for this

Otherwise kill yourself

>> No.8795950

>>8795885
he's right though

>> No.8796213

>>8795867
>not using retroarch is bootlicking
are retroarch transsexuals really this mentally ill????

>> No.8796216

>>8795867
retroarch is trash, stop using it, what don't you get you fucking black jewish transsexual?

>> No.8796283

>hadn't updated mame in over a year
>downloaded current mame and new full set of roms
>install it, keep my old config files
>everything just works
It works fine as long as you're not intentionally trying to break it

>> No.8796284

>>8795125
techraptor net/gaming/news/legal-dilemma-of-capcom-home-arcades-usage-of-emulator-fb-alpha
what?

>> No.8796287

>>8796213
>>8796216
There is literally NO alternative for the dozens of features RetroArch offers, and you WILL be missing out on them all if you get filtered by being too stupid to figure it out (you only need to learn RetroArch once and it's the same for dozens of platforms and consoles)

People use it for the
>consolidated UI and settings for hundreds of different emulators
>run-ahead
>full rebinding
>VRR, BFI, and sync to exact framerate
>shaders, filters, and overlays
>audio customization and level
>unlimited save states, pause, rewind, fast-forward, frame advance
>cheat support
>network play
>50+ different hotkeys with full rebinding
>Retro achievements that are uncheatable with a hardcore mode to disable save states, cheats, pause, rewind, and fast forward
>updated forks
>being able to set any aspect ratio or refresh rate
>Rotation/TATE support
>recording, screenshots, and streaming
and being able to save ALL OF THESE, as well as specific core options and global settings, on a per-game, per-core, per-directory, and global basis. That means each and every game can have its own rebindings, shaders, volume and audio settings, run-ahead level, core and core options, rotation, aspect ratio, etc.

There is literally no reason to use anything else to play gen 5 and earlier games

>> No.8796313

>>8796287
>controller needs to be mapped in the main configuration at the top level, at the emulator level you assign the virtual "buttons" from this virtual "playstation controller" to buttons on the controller you are actually emulating
And it's all ruined by this dumbass abstraction. But you can plug and play a controller on your Retron and flip around to different systems every 5 seconds!

>> No.8796334

>>8796313
>controller needs to be mapped in the main configuration at the top level, at the emulator level you assign the virtual "buttons" from this virtual "playstation controller" to buttons on the controller you are actually emulating
???

This literally has zero fucking effect you moron. Each core has its input device (usually just a standard controller, but it could also be a special controller supported by the system if you want to use that), and then there is always the generic "RetroPad" configuration that is just the standard Xbox/PS layout, and then you map the actions to the associated buttons.

The global level rebinding is really only ever changed if you have a nonstandard controller (like a six button) you can choose how you want your controller to be seen, so you can assign the fifth and sixth buttons to L3/R3 or to the triggers, or whatnot.

For Arcade games, each game even has its own set of controls, so something complex like Midnight Resistance has all its controls laid out, while a basic arcade game with only two buttons, you only choose those two. You can also save a control scheme per-game or for the entire core.

It's really fucking simple and you're either braindead or have never used RetroArch for more than five minutes. Probably both.

>> No.8796343

>>8796287
didn't read any of this, retroarach sucks. no wonder this thread exists, you're a retroarch retard. WAH MUH FILENAMES pffffffffftttttHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH holy fucking shit what a retard

>> No.8796351

>>8796343
>having filenames that aren't unintelligible gibberish BAD
>being able to edit filename at all BAD
>we must think of the five tards in the world using MAME on their 40 year old command line potato computers!!
you're such a braindead bootlicking shill. No wonder you're too fucking stupid to figure out RetroArch

>> No.8796379

>>8786043
Why do jannies allow Mame hate threads but anything thay criticises Nintendo gets purged?

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>>8796287
>you only need to learn retroarch once
I just want to play retro games not patch and edit files before I can even begin playing. Why do emulation cucks have to ruin this board?

>> No.8796395

>>8796351
i use mame and it plays every single game perfectly without doing a single thing. meanwhile, faggot, you made a thread on the internet complaining about how WAH WAH I HAVE TO MODIFY MUH FOLDERS. gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. you're gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

>> No.8796418

>>8796393
>not patch and edit files before I can even begin playing
the fuck are you even saying? why do you just spurt out bullshit about things you know nothing about?

>> No.8796420

>>8796351
BRO
We never look at the file names! Why would you look at those, you only need to look at the games inside Mame. Double click and play, it's that easy.

>> No.8796429

>>8796420
MAMEdrones are truly a lost cause. Just absolutely braindead grovelling morons.

>> No.8796467

>>8796334
>"retroarch auto-detects your controller"
>try it, follow instructions with a second controller that has a different button layout, save remap
>start retroarch with first controller, button assignments are fucked
Gee that worked great. So I can get around this by creating separate main configuation files for each controller. But I can't map buttons directly to controller functions at the emulator level. That might interfere with Captain Raspberry Pifag's ability to just switch to a different emulator and WOW the controls are mapped even though I never used it before! Play NES for 5 seconds then play Genesis for 5 seconds then 5 seconds of PS1.
They were doing so well up until then with the ability to save configurations at a system or game level, what a shame.
And you expect us to use Mame with this? Yes let's use the exact same controller for every arcade game like some sort of pleb.

>> No.8796473

>>8796287
All-in-one emus are still lame.
Watching MAMEtards duke it out with RetroArchtards is amusing.

>> No.8796496

>>8796473
>All-in-one emus
Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator
Only retards use it for consoles because the emulation sucks. If it's not the best emulator for the system, why use it. It's like using a worse emulator for arcade games because "mame too hard for me" (FB Neo).

>> No.8796498

>>8796467
Not even going to read this garbage, you're just a braindead idiot who wants spoonfed. You don't need to adjust global controller config at all if you have a standard controller. If you have a nonstandard controller, you can choose exactly how you want those buttons to correspond to a standard layout. No shit RetroArch doesn't have a custom controller layout for every single controller in existence you stupid fuck, you just choose the buttons on your controller how you want to correspond to the standard PS/Xbox Xinput layout.

You can save a remap file for game and reload any remap file you have for any game. (e.g. you can make a custom remap file for Contra, then you can load and save that file to Super Contra too). If you want to use an arcade stick or whatever for a certain game (not sure why the fuck you would ever need more than DualSense + arcade stick), then you can save a binding for that.

>> No.8796507

>>8796418
>own Nes, snes, Mega drive, psx
>never once have to learn how to set them up
Why do you shill garbage that's almost worse in everyway compared to original hardware?

>> No.8796509

>>8796498
>DualSense
Where did you get that from, your PS5 you bought for tranny games?

>> No.8796514

>>8796509
I've used pretty much only the PS controllers for the last two decades.

>> No.8796527

>>8794609
commit an hero op

>> No.8797513

whats with MAME not saving the properties and settings for individual games randomly so you have to change the ini instead? this is babby level shit devs, fucking fix it.

>> No.8797540

>>8797513
>not saving the properties and settings for individual games randomly

Two rules of mame config:
1) Always hit Save Machine & Save Config after changing shit
2)If you change shit inside the game menu (Tab), if you reset the machine prior to leaving the game, it will not be saved.

Also, your sentence should be "randomly not saving properties", adjectives come first

>> No.8797565

>>8797540
>Save Config after changing shit
it seems the GUI I'm using doesn't have that option, its MameUI. Into the trash it goes which is a shame because its layout is great.

>> No.8797585

>>8796379
Stop making shit up fanboy

>> No.8797596

>>8797585
its true, you can get a warning and then banned for saying anything bad about nintendie.
Janny is very sensitive

>> No.8797754

>324 posts
>80 unique ips
holy
fuck
OP is ultra severely mentally ill, holy fucking shit. i've never seen mental illness this bad. AND OVER A VIDEO GAME EMULATOR HAHAHAHAHHHHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAH

>> No.8797793

You can not convice me that this >>8797754 isn't actually OP samefagging. That's how bad things really are.

>> No.8797809

>>8797596
I’m sure you’re totally making a “criticism”

>> No.8798352

>>8786043
Isn't there some Mitch Hedgeberg joke about driving someone through a shortcut and them complaining about how tough it was, and him saying "well if it wasn't hard it wouldn't be a shortcut it would just be the way". This is kind of like that, just play console ports, if you want to real deal for cheap, then you have to play ball. Mame is about preserving history, not being an easy gaming solution.

>> No.8798374

Also OP should try setting up groovymame on XP, Its a temporary full time job.

>> No.8798514

>>8797754
>80 people made 4 comments each
>this is somehow mental illness
its called having a discussion, schizo.
take your meds.

>> No.8798564

>>8798514
except it's not 80 people making 4 comments each, you WISH it was like that, but it's more like 78 people making 78 comments and 2 people 252 comments

>> No.8798580

>>8798564
for a lot of people their ip resets every 24 hours so the picture becomes even grimmer. this is all just one guy talking to himself tyler durden style yo.

>> No.8798584

>>8798580
Talking to myself is a much more productive use of time than listening to you niggers.

>> No.8798592

>>8798580
>for a lot of people their ip resets every 24 hours so the picture becomes even grimmer.
no, that's not the case. isps don't reset ips as much as they used to. ips usually last days or weeks at this point. so hoping that most posts are from cycled ips is wishful thinking and not correct

>> No.8798597
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8798597

Mame is good. If there was problems with something not working or a file missing. I always found a way how to fix it.

>> No.8798605

>>8797565
>its MameUI
Works on my machine
Sounds like a problem with your machine

>> No.8798621

>>8798597
Based Lucky&Wild enjoyers, you may need to update your mame!
>0.232: Tweak road position in Final Lap/2/3, Suzuka 8 Hours/2 and Lucky & Wild to better match hardware videos (Four Trax is uncertain) [David Haywood]. Added Namco C140 sample status readback, fixes missing sound effects like talking in Lucky & Wild and clone [Angelo Salese].
I was on an older version and it was missing voice lines, update fixed it.

>> No.8798723

So its fine to use Mame Roms from 239 on RetroArch with the MAME Current Core ? Will the roms eventually stop working with that core one the update the romset passed 241 ?

>> No.8798734

>>8798723
>Will the roms eventually stop working
it's one fucking chinese game, who cares

>> No.8798737

>>8798723
If you upgrade the MAME version past .239 those games won't work. MAME devs are lazy faggots and basically never actually make improvements for relevant games anyone cares about so there is no point upgrading for the next few years at least.

>> No.8798743

>>8798734
well i am currently just downloading the games i want for 239, not trying to download the whole romset or anything like that.

>>8798737
When i run the MAME Current core, it shows MAME 241 on the sidebar, i dont want to upgrade the romset or anything, I just my own romset with my favorite games on it, like Tekken Tag etc

>> No.8798778

>>8798743
It's already over. You need the .239 version or earlier of the MAME core itself.

https://buildbot.libretro.com/nightly/

I don't think they have a .239, but I believe they have .238 or something

>> No.8798780

>>8798778
>It's already over.
what's over? a single game no one has ever heard of or cares about being removed that will eventually be added just like all the rest? that's over?

>> No.8798786

>>8798778
the games i've tried so far work, for example
Tekken Tag Tournament
Street Fighter EX
Street Fighter Alpha 3

>> No.8798789

>>8798780
Kill yourself you fucking bootlicking shill faggot. Get the fuck off your knees and have some goddamn self-respect you spineless fuck.

>> No.8798794

>/vr/ - zoomers complaining because they don't know how to use a computer

>> No.8798797

>>8798786
Now try Akai Katana or Dodonpachi Saidaioujou. Oh wait, those games are now censored and completly removed from videogame preservation because the MAME devs are spineless faggots who will abandon their principles on the drop of a hat.

>> No.8798802

>>8798789
>YOU'RE SPINELESS
>about a video game
holy fucking kek

>> No.8798806

>>8798737
It's open source so go improve it yourself instead of whining. Really, pick a game you like, examine the source that's already there for it and try improving it.

>too brainlet for programming
Then start learning. RetroArch was put together by a guy with down syndrome. You can do it too.

>> No.8798808

>>8798797
good, see ya loser

>> No.8798810

>>8798723
>Retroarch
Just stop tarding it up with RA. The roms from a 0.239 set will most likely work with the current Mame which is 0.242 since its only a few months newer. I don't know what the Retroarch core version is, doesn't matter.
If you want to play those games that were removed you need a version of Mame that's 0.239 or earlier, or a fork of Mame that supports them.
If you keep updating your Mame core without updating your rom set, yes your games might stop working because of a rom revision. Mame isn't meant to be updated without thinking.

>> No.8798813

>>8798797
but i dont want to play those games, only the ones i like or know about

>> No.8798815

>>8798806
>RetroArch was put together by a guy with down syndrome.
Holy fucking seethe. You will never amount to anything in your life.

>> No.8798817

>>8798806
>RetroArch was put together by a guy with down syndrome
pffffffffffffffttttHAHAHAHAHAAH i almost believe this. actually i DO believe this. so that means all the people who use it have down syndrome too. kek

>> No.8798818

>>8798810
RetroArch with FB Neo is the best way to play vast majority of Arcade games, and the rest can be played in the MAME core just as well or better than standalone (can use either the in-game tab menu or RetroArch menu to adjust settings)

>> No.8798832

>>8798815
That's not seethe, it's genuinely impressive. There are a lot of able-bodied and able-minded people in the world who do jack shit whereas that guy was able to put together a project like that in spite of his condition.

>> No.8798834

>>8798832
And it's still too complex for a slobbering retard like you to figure out :)

>> No.8798858

>>8798797
I takes about 2 seconds to find a prepackaged fork of mame with those roms included on archive.
Yes it's gay. But on the plus side this could make Retroarch fags stop mindlessly auto-updating their Mame "core", maybe even use a real version of Mame. It gives people a motivation to create new Mame forks. Possibly even "Mame for Terminal Retards" that has all the latest updates but also maintains legacy support code for the 20 year old dump you got from coolrom, that worked just fine with the Mame you burned to a CDROM when George W Bush was president. I doubt it, but one of the mame complainers could make this version they seem to want.

>> No.8798875
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8798875

Any glaring omissions from my collection, bros?

>> No.8798876

>>8798818
>RetroArch with FB Neo is the best way to play vast majority of Arcade games
The best because it's the most accurate, or because it's easy for coping retards with their old shitty roms they can't be bothered to update?

>> No.8798889

>>8798875
I downloaded the full set instead of clicking a few hundred individual links like a dumbass. Not gonna waste my time reading your list either.

>> No.8798898

>>8798889
I have a full set as well. I just don't "install" them all - only what I want to play.

>>8798889
>Not gonna waste my time reading your list either.
Well fuck you then. Why even reply in the first place? I didn't read ask you to "read" the entire list. I was asking for glaring omissions. Meaning you check if your favorite game or two are in there and move on. It's starting to look like YOU might be the dumbass here.

>> No.8798912

>>8798889
>Duh I have everything. Just get everything
Too stupid to parse what the question is actually about. Fucking mouth breathers the entire lot of you. Unbelievable. Destined to flip burgers until you rot in hell.

>> No.8799171

>>8798875
Dimahoo, Exzisus, Xexex, Xain'd Sleena, Toki no Senshi: Chrono Soldier & Mobile Suit Gundam EX Revue are kinda interesting.
Meme suggestion: Zunzunkyou No Yabou

>> No.8799195

>>8799171
Thanks. I'll look into all of them.

>> No.8799331

>>8798876
FB Neo is basically just as accurate as MAME for the games it supports. FB Neo has lower inherent input lag, full run-ahead support, and better integration/UI. The only issue is that FB Neo just supports a smaller library of games (a lot of 2000's Arcade games are only supported through MAME)

>> No.8799371

can you guys even imagine using retroarch, lmao holy crap, how retarded

>> No.8799375

>>8798875
My collection: https://streamable.com/7gty73

Mostly run and guns, shmups, and beat em ups.

>> No.8800163

>>8786043
>the BugMeNot logins for retrorom are dead
Oh well

>> No.8800291

>>8799375
You have hands down chosen the single most retarded way of going about showing it off. I tip my hat to you, you absolute zoomer smoothbrain.

>> No.8800567

>>8798875
why do you hate Atari? you're missing:
APB
Paperboy
Super Sprint
Marble Madness
Gauntlet
I Robot
STUN Runner
Star Wars
Tempest

oh and tatios masterpiece "Rainbow Islands"

>> No.8800603

>>8800567
Okay yeah that's ture, some of those are very obvious. I don't know what's wrong with me.

>> No.8800648

>>8800291
Shows custom labels and boxart while taking me a minute to make you fucking drooling retard. Now tell me an alternative way that takes under a minute to make and shows custom labels and boxart, I'll wait.

>> No.8800659

>>8786157
>redditarch
Nope

>> No.8800660

>>8800659
The best and lowest input lag method to play Arcade games. See >>8796287

You just got filtered by RetroArch, it's not a big deal.

>> No.8800663

>>8786262
>retroass
Kill yourself zoomer autist

>> No.8800665

>>8800660
I don't give a shit about lag
If you are a pussy to play without lag, thanks, you are a faggot who never mastered jedi skills.

>> No.8800668
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8800668

>>8796287
Retroshart is shit even to run DOS Games, standalone like ECE and X is superior.

>> No.8800669

>>8800663
Imagine how much of a grovelling, battered, Stockholm Syndrome, spineless faggot you have to be to dickride MAME this much. They're not even paying you lmao

>> No.8800670

>>8800668
>what is DOSBox Pure

>> No.8800672

>>8800670
>what is a joke of a dosbox fork that everyone at vogons and other places mocks it because the rats at retroarch cant code for shit

you underage zoomers are literal cultists, praising shitty simplicity

>> No.8800691

I am so tired of talking about MAME, Retroarch v. standalones, and carts v. ROMs it's un-fucking-goddamn-real. I hate this board. I HATE THIS BOARD.

>> No.8800702

>>8800672
RetroArch is the complete opposite of simplicity and that's not why people praise it you smoothbrain tard. The complexity is the reason why most people hate it, because they are too stupid to figure it out, even if it's only one consistent UI you need to learn and then it's the same for hundreds of platforms. It's the same idiot poorfag mentality for why so many people shop at dollar stores, they lack forethought and only think of the here and now.

See >>8796287

>>8800691
It's fine if people don't like RetroArch but I've literally never seen anyone actually post a valid criticism and it's usually just baseless garbage by someone who has clearly not used it for more than a few minutes.

>> No.8800707

>>8794947
>stupid obscure Asian game

Wat gaem?

>> No.8800708 [DELETED] 

>>8800702
Shit made by a RERTARD with down syndome made for RETARDS like (ytou) who needs some validation in life.

>> No.8800709

>>8800702
Retroarch is hands down no-fucking-contest the best choice for input lag and CRTs. I'm done talking to brainlets about it though. Just done. Obviously some cores such shit and standalones are better. I'm so sick of the all in or out literally BPD tribalistic stance on EVERYTHING. I'm fucking tired.

>> No.8800712

This Retroarch shill reeks of discord dev trying to sell this shit here as always with /vr/ and of recently /r/emulation telling them to fuck off.

>> No.8800713

>>8800709
The issue is you think the only advantage of RetroArch is input lag and CRT support.

>>8800708
Can't tell if you're an elaborate troll or a genuine stupid as fuck smoothbrain.

>> No.8800723

retroarch is trash lmaoooooooo, retroarch fags seething hard

>> No.8800725

>>8800723
>mad = wrong
I hate this fallacy so goddamn much.

>> No.8800730

>>8800725
no, you misunderstand me. retroarch is garbage AND retroarch are seething

>> No.8800732

>>8800723
You've been making this same post for days. At least have MAME pay you if you are going to be shilling for them nonstop every waking hour.

>> No.8800738

>>8800732
>You've been making this same post for days
i have? prove it

>> No.8800739

>>8800732
No one here gives a shit to mame
Everyone here just hates retroarch, simple as.

>> No.8800741

>>8800739
simple as, fren <|8^)
based fellow retroarch hater

>> No.8800772

>>8800739
You don't give a shit about MAME but bootlick and cocksuck for them for free for days on end? lmao

Another midwit who can't figure out RetroArch and then starts a little crusade against it

>> No.8800784

>>8800772
mame works
retroarch doesn't work
you're a butthurt retard
simple as <|8^)

>> No.8800795

>>8800648
>Boot up an external recording app like OBS since RA's internal recording function doesn't work if no emulation is running - which is what you did, evident by the "no core" in the lower left. So you made it even more tedious for yourself by not simply launching literally any game beforehand and then going into RA's quick menu
>Proceed to scroll your entire fucking list of arcade ROMs for a whole minute resulting in a fucking 50MB (!) mp4 that you then upload to streamable
>Link it in your post
>"under a minute to make"
Yeah, riiiight...

>Shows custom labels and boxart
Yet you scroll so fast that for many of them the fade-in effect is too slow to even show them. And they're not even needed in the first place. Why would anyone want to see them in this situation? Text is perfectly servicable. It's also way more impractical to constantly have to pause and unpause a video just to read a list.

>Now tell me an alternative
There you go >>8798875 - see now that probably took less than a minute. I understand you wanted to show off your great little setup there but it didn't work out quite the way you imagined. It was overshadowed by your stupidity. Better luck next time.

>> No.8800834

>>8800672
Dosbox pure is the most usless shit. You still have to run installers and setup programs. How do zoomers figure that out? So all this does is replace the Dos command prompt.
Don't zoomies require one of those sets that has an individual preconfigured dosbox for every game?

>> No.8800850

>>8800795
>Dude just post a list of unintelligible gibberish including all parent files and bios files, then I just manually check every game on the entire list!!
Christ, you're actually fucking braindead holy shit lmao

This removes all the filler files, has the actual game names with it (including alternative regional names), and includes boxarts.

I like how you desperately try to act like opening a program and pressing one button is difficult, or that literally just pressing a single fucking button to pause a video is somehow """impractical"""... LMAO WHAT???

Seriously, are you a low functioning little retard? HAHAHAHAHAHA Does your mommy wipe your ass, and dress you, and tie your shoes? Little down syndrome retard fuck lmao

>> No.8800883

>>8800834
Pretty much this, even shit like NFS1 needs a full moonlight to work, or LHX which needs command lines to change the sound from PCbleep to Soundblaster/Roland/GeneralMidi

something everyone mocks PURE of it because retroarch cultists are literal autistic zoomers who cant even make shortcuts on PC, because phones has none of those.
hence why they started to call DOS games as "roms" because they need a pre configured install for it, which is shit all times.

>> No.8800902

>>8800850
>use MameUI
>see correct name plus other details like year and manufacturer
>have it set up so the cabinet image is displayed when I click on a game, can click a tab to switch to the control panel image
Mamechads can't stop winning

>> No.8800920

>>8800850
Would you point out those files in that picture >>8798875 for me please? Are these "filler files" in the room with us right now?

>> No.8800924

The funny thing is that this retard >>8800850 still has to use the same file names when using the RetroArch core. So showing them together with the titles like this >>8798875 is actually useful.

>> No.8800929

>>8786043
Even the name is shitty "MAME" only a retard would say a word like that

>> No.8800939

>>8800902
based mamechads. retroarch is for literal gays

>> No.8800942

>>8800929
you should keep using retroarch KEK

>> No.8800965

>>8800902
>>8800920
>>8800924
Not downloading a program, removing all the bloat parent and bios files, annotating the regional names, and adding in boxart all for the benefit of one little lazy fucking faggot. I've already configured all my shit so I just scrolling through the list in OBS, drop into streamable, and I'm done.

If you're a little lazy fucking faggot who needs to be spoonfed everything, then the least you can do is watch a 2 min video to know every relevant Arcade game out there.

>> No.8800971

>>8800965
Dude, I'm just messing with you. You're too easy. This shit is hilarious. Thanks for the vid though. You need relax some. High blood pressure kills you.

>> No.8800994

>>8800965
What is this "bloat" you speak of? On my machine lmame)
>have big list with every game
>type in text box to filter by name
>make custom playlists by creating an .ini file
>can modify lists by rightclicking a game and add or remove from list
>can sort by year, developer etc, convinient by-year playlists are included
Does retroarch just show raw filenames unless you make a customized playlist and type them in manually? Lol the absolute state of this program. No wonder archtendies are so mad about the names of the zip files.

>> No.8801006

>>8800994
Not making a custom playlist for some random anon online, kill yourself.

And I use FB Neo for all games that I can, although MAME is needed for some newer titles.

>> No.8801029

>>8800883
>Pretty much this, even shit like NFS1 needs a full moonlight to work,
I literally have never used DOSBox Pure or played NFS in my life. I start the game up, press one button and I'm good to go. The game is already pre-configured with the optimal hardware and settings and the controls are already bound in an intuitive manner (although of course I can rebind everything)

Holy fuck you retards really do like to make things hard for yourself with your aversion to RetroArch

>> No.8801062

>>8801029
If it works for you, great. I prefer to emulate a virtual dos machine with dosbox-x. I use retroarch for a few consoles.
All we're saying is people need to shut up about their self-inflicted zoomerarch problems. Mame core doesn't work good? Who gives a fuck you retard, mame devs don't need to change shit. Problems with dos games in Dosbox Pure? Well fuckin fix it yourself, this isn't RA tech support.

>> No.8801078

>>8786043
Losers like you should fuck off to Steam and ask Mommy to buy your the Crapcom collection. It's more your type of crap.

>> No.8801083

>>8801062
Almost everything in RetroArch works great. The people "bitching" are not actually bitching because they use RetroArch want something to have better support in RetroArch and the devs of the standalone won't implement them. No, instead they're bitching because they're anti-RetroArch autists who can't figure out how to work anything and want any excuse to hate on RetroArch, even if that's just them being too fucking stupid to figure anything out.

MAME works well in RetroArch and the only complaints I've seen about it is that it doesn't take advantage of all of RetroArch's features and is only slightly better than standalone rather than much better than standalone.

>> No.8801087

>>8801029
>what is configuring the game for your liking with xyz
>what is configuring the right memory and clock speed so the game isn't fast as shit
Zoomers retroarch devs every1, they make games for phones.

>>8801083
Retroarch and its retard dev has one of it.

>> No.8801119

>>8800902
MameUI cant even save individual game settings, you have to do it within vanllia mame, its a joke of a UI

>> No.8801126

>89 posters
>415 replies
we seem to have all the /vr/ autists gathered in one thread. I'm proud of you /v/

>> No.8801129

>>8801087
https://streamable.com/dbkj6o

You sure are one stupid motherfucker aren't you?

>> No.8801134

just play on fightcade 2

>> No.8801142

mame chads is there any way I can improve the performance of 3D games like Hard Drivin'?
if I turn throttling off its runs insanely fast so its unplayable and overclocking the CPU within the game settings doesnt do much either.

is there a way to get it to run like 3X better?

>> No.8801180

>>8801119
Click the "OK" button after you change settings in the properties menu.
Settings you change in the tab menu/Mame GUI (dipswitches, control mapping etc) should be saved automatically.
Sounds like it could be a problem with your OS, reinstall mame and fix your shit or whatever
>reasons to not take advice about anything from /vr/ posters

>> No.8801195

>>8801129
>MIDI output turned off
Gay

>> No.8801216

>>8801195
>having what I'm assuming is for MT32 emulation on all the time
If the devs composed for it and the game has an MT32 setting, of course. Otherwise I'm using Soundblaster and listening to the music as the devs intended, not on the obscure hardware nobody had becuase "i think it le sounds le better this way!"
If you're doing something stupid like using a custom soundfont or your own modern soundcard's General Midi that's mega gay.
No native MT32 emulation? Mogged by Dosbox-X. And I seriously hope it supports CGA composite and not just ugly CGA for monitors.

>> No.8801221

>>8801216
congratulations in ousting yourself as a underage tourist who cant config games at all and needs handholding.

>> No.8801236
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>>8801216
>Soundfonts
Gross dude. Get that out of my face.

>> No.8801268

>>8801221
>use mt32 for games where the devs put effort into using it, like Sierra
>use Soundblaster if it was just thrown in as a side thing
Not seeing the problem. And I have no reason to give the synthesizer knobs a tweakerino if that's what you mean.

>> No.8801290

>>8801268
I mean nothing. I'm still just fucking with you. Pushing your buttons, making you sperg out since you literally can't stop and it's endlessly entertaining. I even told you before and you're still here autistically replying to every post.

>> No.8801307

>>8801290
That's not even me lmao. You can stop pretending to be retarded at any time.

>> No.8801309

>>8801236
>Paying for roland innacurate shit

>> No.8801317
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>MEME
lol

>> No.8801318

>>8801309
Trying to turn the game around now, are we? Sorry. I don't go for low tier bait. You need to do better.

>> No.8801320
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>>8801317

>> No.8801334
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>>8801320

>> No.8801345

>>8801317
>>8801320
>>8801334
I don't quite get it yet. I need approximately 2 more webms. I'm THIS close!

>> No.8801346

hit a nerve hahaha

>> No.8801372

holy shit rettroarchers seething lol

>> No.8801390

>>8801309
>Roland shit inaccurate
Good saves me having to pirate it
>Dosbox-X with mt32 emulation set at max quality
>official mt32 roms, no Im NOT paying for them and I didn't dump them from an mt32 i own
>set win 3.1 background to gigachad.bmp
>open media player, play canyon.mid
Now this is how you play dos games

>> No.8801413

>>8793836
I dont like RA, but its seems Mame IS jealous of it. Mame is trying to run a bunch of arcade hw, RA tries to run a bunch of console hw.

Theres definitely a parallel there. The actual Mame devs are so bent on perfection, they'll joy-less, and will never be happy with anything.

>> No.8801416

>>8801309
>Calls Sound Canvas VA inaccurate while admitting to MT32 emulation and soundfont usage
Unreal. You couldn't even tell the difference between a real SC-55 and the soft synth.

>> No.8801462

>>8801413
>but its seems Mame IS jealous of it
proof?

>> No.8801532

>>8786262
This strawman again?

>> No.8801547
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8801547

>>8801345

>> No.8801551

>>8801320
>>8801334
>must be something they changed recentl-
>2013
https://youtu.be/FBH1TbhbtXg?t=1599

>> No.8801597

>>8801413
>uses arcade hw as the example
Why not all those consoles and computers mame emulates shittily? This is becuase they merged with MESS (but not like any zoomerinos here would be old enough to remember that)

>> No.8801653
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8801653

>>8801413
They typically get mad at RA & any emu project for modern systems that makes more money than the dumpers, but at the same time, practically no one really knows who they are or how to donate to any of them. There's a nicely sized Patreon button at the top of Libretro's site and a big-ass Donate button on Cemu's site. Where is such info on the mamedev website? These tards cry a big "preservation" game when no one knows who to donate to.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/dy7fym/question_about_mame_project_and_contributors/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/61lj3l/donationpatreon_campaigns_for_mame/
>damn these projects getting more money than the ones we want to
>don't donate to us, send it to th--
It's too difficult for these retards to just toss a donation link to the people involved with dumping the arcade games on their own front page. It's also way too difficult for them to make a donation page for MAME in order for them to take money and send it The Dumping Union or anyone else they want to themselves.
"This Patreon will be used to fund arcade dumpers."
Not hard, but they're still eternally seething over getting less funds than everyone else.

>> No.8801719
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8801719

>>8786118
>>open game
>it tells you exactly what file you're missing
>exept you are missing the bios
>and the super secret settings
>and you also have to configure fucking everything after getting the files
>oh shit, you need mame 1.3.96 to run assfucker of the hell 2 and you have mame 1.3.97

>> No.8801789

>>8801719
>support for assfucker of the hell 2 has been removed by request of the copyright holder
THIS IS BULLFUCK
IT'S COCK A DOOKIE

>> No.8802259

there's no way that OP and all le mame bad fags in this threads aren't retroarch memes. it's just too desperate

>> No.8802285

>>8802259
Still talking to yourself out loud, I see.

>> No.8802484

couple questions guy, what are the mame xml files or DAT ? Are they necessary ? I also have seen meta xml files. What are those

>> No.8802629
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8802629

>>8786043
I haf a question, last year when using RA, using the Final Burn Neo core, when playing games, all the audio and such was heard with a bit of a pitch up, but not neccesarely Pal speed, just sligthly pitched up, which actually sounded neat to me, cause remind me of actual arcades, anybody knows what to do to recreat that effect?

>> No.8804006

I updated from mame 0.179 to mame 0.240 and now games dont work, what is the point of updating? why doesnt it warn you that things get worse?

>> No.8804021

>>8802629
try increasing the game speed slightly, like 1.2 times. its in the properties.

>> No.8804427

>>8804006
You need to download new roms
Or go back to your old version of mame
But if you're a stupid fuck you could always do neither of those and post here about "muh games don't work!"
Lmao fucking retard

>> No.8804534

>>8804006
Need a new set. But you fucked up, because .240 onwards is pozzed with removed games

>> No.8804547

>>8804006
>i updated my software 61 versions and didn't update the corresponding rom set even a SINGLE version, duhhhhhhhh why don't games work????
ABSOLUTE
FUCKING
MORON

>> No.8804550
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8804550

>>8804006
updating arcade things means you need to download a totally new rom set.

>> No.8804570

>>8804006
uninstall it and install fbneo

>> No.8804583

>>8804547
MAME (and FB Neo since it uses the same format) is literally the only fucking emulator that follows this format you braindead cocksucking shill retard

>> No.8804617

hey op, you still replying to this thread? you're OBSESSED

>> No.8804659

>>8794717
>yeah, I wanna say its a holdover from the old days where arcade collectors usually called games by their US/Europe titles (though, strangely, Puck-Man is the parent rom instead of Pac-Man on MAME)
The Parent ROM is usually the last official release of World, but not always. Sometimes it's the US, sometimes it's the EU, sometimes it's the JP release. But it's generally the last official release of that version of the game. For example, Street Fighter 2's parent rom is the World 910522 release, which is the latest dated World release. There's a few later JP and US releases, but they use World when possible. Mortal Kombat 2 is another example. The parent ROM for that is rev L3.1, and the only clones later than that are a rev L3.2 EU release, and a L4.2 hack.
This is because the final official release is usually the most polished, with the least amount of bugs remaining. So they use that as the parent ROM. Otherwise you would have people screaming about why do they need to download mk2.zip and mk2l31.zip as well just to play Mortal Kombat II with Noob Saibot.

>> No.8804832

>>8804583
Well they're not changing it for you, retard.
Know what works with your old rom set? OLD MAME.
Most of the improvements come from better rom dumps. What were you expecting? Do you not know how this shit works?

>> No.8804882

>>8804583
ooooooooooooooooohohohohohHAHAHAHAH holy fucking shit this is hilarious, is someone going to tell him?

>> No.8804886

ITT niggas who can't into FB

>> No.8805182

Most of the games I downloaded for MAME worked, though not all of them.
I have no fucking clue why I can't play original Galaga and instead have to resort to playing either Namco Classic Collection Vol. 1 or the Ms. Pac-Man/Galaga Class of '81 rom.

>> No.8805490
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8805490

>>8805182
Roms look like they were last updated in 2011.
You're probably missing a namco system file thingy

>> No.8806180
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8806180

Not my problem.

>> No.8806784

>>8804832
I'm not even him, I'm just saying the MAME dev team are a bunch of retarded lazy hacks who do things in the most autistic and ass-backwards way possible.

>> No.8806789
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8806789

Get you a stable remap going!
"What's the matter, boy? MAME forgot your buttons again? That sucks!" -"Tired of having to reconfigure your inputs all the time? You're about to lose it and ready to give up? Wait! There's yet hope."

Introducing:
By default MAME instantly resets any button configuration that is being loaded or currently in use if the specified controller is not connected or drops connection while the program is still being executed. Scenarios like this include a wireless controller going into sleep mode, a weak battery giving out during gameplay or a cable pulled too early. But there's a solution: Write your own remap file using a stable controller ID and MAME's devicemap feature today - MAME won't forget your buttons ever again!

How to:
1. Connect your controller of choice.
2. Go to Control Panel > Device Manager > Human Interface Devices > HID Conform Game Controller > Your Controller > Properties > Details > pick Hardware IDs from the drop down menu and note it down.
3. Write a text document like pic related to permanently map your buttons to player 1 using your controller's hardware ID*** (see 2nd post). Save as a cfg-file and name it a single word without any spaces or special characters.
4. Put the new cfg-file into a directory called 'ctrlr' inside your MAME program directory. Create it if it doesn't exist already.
5. Open mame.ini > Under section '# CORE SEARCH PATH OPTIONS' set 'ctrlrpath' to 'ctrlr'. Under section '# CORE INPUT OPTIONS' set 'ctrlr' to the name of your remap cfg-file. Leave out the file extension.
6. Delete 'default.cfg' in the 'cfg' directory of your MAME installation. Your remap is the new default now! This step might not be 100% necessary but it autogenerates a new one anyway if needed.
7. Done

TBC

>> No.8806794

>>8806789 continued

Result:
MAME won't ever forget your buttons again. Doesn't matter if your controller loses connection, goes into sleep mode, the battery dies or you pull the cable too early. It's Plug-and-Play now and will be recognized 100% reliably by its hardware ID.

Advice:
If you are using an 8-button arcade stick the layout illustrated below is highly recommended as it is the most suited default across all machines, offering you the NeoGeo 4-button top row and 6-button layout a la Street Fighter at the same time.

1234
4567

Note that none of this prevents you from making further adjustments to input settings on a per game basis from inside the MAME GUI if necessary. MAME creates a config file for every game you boot inside the cfg directory and those have precedence over the default which we have redefined here.

Documentation
https://docs.mamedev.org/advanced/devicemap.html

***DISCLAIMER (see 1st post)
Controller button names and enumeration as well as hardware ID will vary. Figuring them out is up to the user. It is recommended to create a game specific remap including all physical buttons first and using that as reference. It will be located in the cfg directory.

>> No.8806836

>>8804547
>you need to update your games when the emulator updates
>no other emulator in existence does this
mame confirmed for total shit.

>> No.8806843

>>8806836
>zoomie doesn't understand the difference between software and hardware
Your CHDs generally work with every version. So will roms or disk images if you're using one of mame's console/computer emulators (they suck).
Arcade machines are not software! When support for the game improves because a better dump of it's PCB is available, the code for the old crappy dump is removed.
The choices are never be able to play anything until it's 100% perfect by autism standards, or confuse the zoomshits and coolrom tards. I'll go with the second option.

>> No.8806846

>>8806836
>i don't know anything about what im talking about
dunning kruger right here, pretty funny to watch

>> No.8806847

>>8806846
make your mind up schizo, so I DONT have to update the roms?
come on kiddo, push that braincell.

>> No.8806854

>>8786043
I haven't used MAME in years but it used to be easy to use, when did they ruin it?

>> No.8806858

>>8806847
>I wanna update and get the new games and updated emulation!
>ok, you need to download the new roms and new fixed dumps
>WHAT?! WHY DO I HAVE TO DOWNLOAD STUFF AGAIN?! I'M LOSING MY MIND! AAAAAHHHHH!
That anon is right, you are dumb as fuck.

>> No.8806861

>>8786104
>>8786043
> i am brain damaged and a disgusting compulsive liar
shocking
>>8806843

>Your CHDs generally work with every version
nope, they sometimes change if better dumps are available.
>So will roms or disk images if you're using one of mame's console/computer emulators (they suck).
that stuff rarely changes
>because a better dump of it's PCB is available
dump of its ROMs, genius.

>>8806836
>>no other emulator in existence does this
yes, they do.

>>8806847
not all ROMs are dumped properly, some are done very poorly, usually due to the complexity of the hardware.

great to see this board is still full of retarded and demented compulsive liars that are 100% more computer illiterate than the failures on /g/ and /pol/. well done, everyone.

>> No.8806871

>>8806854
wasn't ruined at all. mame gets updated every so often, anons have no sources to current dumps of ROMs, so they cry like whores expecting MAME to just run any old broken dump. these low iq baboons would rather we all use broken shit from 10 years ago.

>> No.8806896

>>8786157
For dummies? Yeah right! I think I need a frickin PhD to understand that!

>> No.8806908

>>8806896
retroarch is a pile of shit that uses a bunch of other preexisting emulators. they make it far more complex than it needs to be, and that anon you replied to isn't helping with that with his delusional rant. that's really the only thing you need to understand.

>> No.8806952

>>8806836
>no other emulator in existence does this
bsnes did for a while. You had to rename your rom to game.rom and put it in a folder that had the name of the game, and it also had a database that refused to run anything that wasn't a verified licensed dump. It was completely retarded and yet there were a bunch of people on here claiming it was some super genius idea that made absolute perfect sense and that every emulator should do it.

It was so bad that someone ended up using the bsnes api to write a frontend that didn't do any of the retarded rom-loading bullshit. That frontend was ssnes which got taken over by downiel and became retroarch.

When you're feeling grateful for the existence of the piece of shit that is retroarch remember to spit in byuu's urn because he's the one whose complete stupidity and selfishness made this happen and now we're all stuck with it.

>> No.8806987

>>8806861
>great to see this board is still full of retarded and demented compulsive liars that are 100% more computer illiterate than the failures on /g/ and /pol/. well done, everyone.
it's unreal, isn't it? i really do enjoy going to /g/ and /vr/ but there are a LOT of completely illiterate computer users on here that are severely mentally ill, schizos, and just plain liars who lie because ........ ?????? the only reason i can see lying over something as STUPID as mame roms would be that these user are unemployed neets who are ultra bored at home in mommy's basement with NO other thing in their life to do except rage about their own simple user failings and blame everyone but themselves. they are blameless in their own minds, they think they are geniuses, being broke as shit living in their mom's basement or in squalor living off government checks. im glad these losers are restricted as much as they are, and watching them rage on shit that is their own fault is funny as fuck. i hope they all die very slow deaths.

>> No.8807019

>>8806952
Bsnes is only tolerable inside retroarch, in the newest revisions of the core. They let you pick individual accuracy options instead of el retardo's vision of 3 general accuracy levels. PPU accuracy is the one that slows everything to shit and it only fixes one game.

>> No.8807029

>>8806987
>it's unreal, isn't it?
it is, but not really surprising to me. the moderators of this board actively defend these simpletons because any traffic is good traffic, despite the quality of the board being worse than any other on this website
> the only reason i can see lying over something as STUPID as mame roms would be that these user are unemployed neets who are ultra bored at home in mommy's basement with NO other thing in their life to do except rage about their own simple user failings and blame everyone but themselves
that, and they're just absolutely stupid. they're dumbfucks. they "believe" they know everything, and will even go as far to make shit up as they go, then they'll rage out when some smarter comes along and shatters their delusional fantasy. it's the same people over and over again, day after day.
> im glad these losers are restricted as much as they are, and watching them rage on shit that is their own fault is funny as fuck. i hope they all die very slow deaths.
agreed, anon.

>> No.8807118

>>8806789
>>8806794

LMFAO

>> No.8808317

>>8786043
You're a fucking idiot m8. I

>> No.8809595

>>8806847
You do, but you also don't, depending on the game. Of course, depending on what fullset version you're updating from, you'd either have to read through their massive whatsnew.txt files or use a .dat file + CLRMAMEPro on your ROM folder to find out which ones you need to get.
https://mamedev.emulab.it/clrmamepro/
https://www.progettosnaps.net/dats/MAME/
>>8802484
They're the things TOSEC & No-Intro uses to maintain their fullsets. They do have bad dumps in No-Intro sets as well, mainly DS due to "scene" dumpers getting them wrong years ago, and they have to redump them. You'd need to pay close attention to their updates to know which ones they are, and you could check their search tab to see the bad dumps. All the scene dumps were added when they got them, and many Jap ROMs still need to be redone at some point.
https://datomatic.no-intro.org/index.php
It's not surprising that self-important douches like >>8806987 & >>8807029 didn't want to bother answering a simple question.

>> No.8809623

>>8809595
There are other ROM managers besides CLRMAMEPro in case you want to try those instead.

>> No.8809629

>>8806858
>>I wanna update and get the new games and updated emulation!
I didnt say this, nice reading comprehension you have there Cleetus.

>> No.8809636

>>8806854
mames devs are obnoxious autists who do it for themselves and enjoy the clusterfuck it has become.

>> No.8809696
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8809696

>Download roms from here: https://pleasuredome.github.io/pleasuredome/mame/index.html
>Get the last MAME version
>Problem solved

>> No.8809779

>>8809696
morons like OP cannot do this simple task, they are incapable of using a computer and can't figure things out for themselves.

>> No.8809797

>>8809696
>link to a wall of files to download, no explanation what the fuck they are
>total filesize over 2TB
>"problem solved"
like I said, fucking autists.

>> No.8809816

>>8809797
>site literally says what each thing is
>DUHHHHHHHH I CAN'T READ
moron

>> No.8809880

>>8809797
What else needs to be explained, tho?

>> No.8809941

>>8809880 (Me)
Ah, nevermind. I get what you're saying. You don't want to download everything, and every filename is shorthand. I don't have the space for it, either. Do these things have fullset text files that looks something like >>8798875?

>> No.8810062
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8810062

>>8809941
How do you suck so fucking bad at life? Pic related will not yield "something like" >>8798875 but exactly that. Jesus Christ, I swear there are like 3 buttons in the UI. Are you afraid of clicking on things in general?

>> No.8810126

>>8809941
Run this command:
>mame -listfull > listfull.txt

>> No.8810148

>>8810126
Dude, I don't think he is capable of doing anything in CLI.

>> No.8810165

>>8810062
>>8810126
>>8810148
I CANNOT believe this thread is still going. my opinion at this point is that OP, and everyone in this thread just like OP that is complaining about mame is LITERALLY mentally retarded, or actually mentally deficient in some way where simple things can't be accomplished without consulting 4chan. i mean, holy fuck, that is some retarded shit. how can anyone be THAT retarded?

>> No.8810178

>>8810062
>>8810126
>>8810148
I CANNOT believe this thread is still going. my opinion at this point is that OP, and everyone in this thread just like OP that is complaining about mame is LITERALLY mentally retarded, or actually mentally deficient in some way where simple things can't be accomplished without consulting 4chan. i mean, holy fuck, that is some retarded shit. how can anyone be THAT retarded?

>> No.8810209 [DELETED] 

>>8786043
You need an IQ above room temperature to operate THE most important and influential emulator of all time.

>> No.8810217

>>8810209
*that nobody uses

>> No.8810225 [DELETED] 

>>8810217
The MAME core itself is omnipresent.

>> No.8810238 [DELETED] 

It's not that hard. I can think of more difficult emulators to configure and operate. The primary goal of the project is preservation. Being able to play the games is a neat bonus.

>> No.8810253

>>8810225
that nobody uses

>> No.8810261 [DELETED] 

>>8810253
I too like to talk bullshit and smell my own farts

>> No.8810275

>>8810261
mame is perfect for you then

>> No.8810281 [DELETED] 

>>8810217
every commercial arcade collection uses mame in on form or another
no one reinvents the wheel when you can license mame for it

>> No.8810286

>>8810281
I too like to talk bullshit and smell my own farts

>> No.8810304 [DELETED] 
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>>8786043
I think OP had his tender anus properly prolapsed.

>> No.8810449

>>8810062
>you have to open the emulator before you download anything for it
Literally no other emulator does this.

>> No.8810451

>>8810217
>>8810253
hey OP, how is your sub 90 IQ today?

>> No.8810459

>>8810449
>things can't be different
absolutely braindead

>> No.8810461 [DELETED] 

>>8810449
Your complaining won't change a thing, smoothbrain

>> No.8810463 [DELETED] 

>>8786043
If you think MAME is hard, wait until you start emulating some of the 16 and 32 bit home computers... that must make your brain implode then.

>> No.8810467

>>8810461
It can teach people to have real standards.

>> No.8810481

>>8810467
you complaining about YOU being an idiot on 4chan literally does nothing, you stupid asshole waste of oxygen

>> No.8810494

>>8810481
No stupidity when it's not obvious.

>> No.8810515 [DELETED] 

>>8810467
You sound like an entitled shithead.

>> No.8810519

>>8810451
>520 / 36 / 110
the mame salt mines
also, ONLY 110 people lmao

>> No.8810526

>>8806789
>>8806794
PFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.8810540 [DELETED] 

nobody owes your anything OP

>> No.8810562

>>8810494
it's quite obvious you're a moron, everyone is telling you this. and you're even more stupid for you not noticing that everyone is telling you this

>> No.8810583 [DELETED] 

>The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

How many of these posts are you, OP?!

>> No.8810586

>The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

How many of these posts are you, OP?!

>> No.8810592 [DELETED] 

>>8786043
The zoomer & alpha influx and its consequences have been a disaster for the retro games board.

>> No.8810595

tell us you get trolled by others boomers without telling us you get trolled by boomers

>> No.8810620

>>8810562
>>8810583
>>8810586
The irony is that you make up 75+ posts of you fellating MAME's dick.

>> No.8810683

>>8810620
prove it

>> No.8810724
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8810724

/emugen/ here. Pic related.

>> No.8810742

>>8809797
Read the rest of the thread retard.
Mame ROMS - 70 GB.
Mame CHDs - 500-600 GB for everything and a ton of them don't work
You - downloading over 1 TB of BULLSHIT!
It's roms for every non arcade system mame emulates mostly badly. What the fuck. I don't go to that paradise site, figure it out, not my problem if you're too stupid for archive.

>> No.8810947

>>8806952
Eh, close, but not quite. Byuu himself created the libsnes API that later evolved into libretro, and IIRC it was before he came up with the game folder bullshit. It was Themaister who then took libsnes and created SSNES as a frontend for it, utilizing byuu's Phoenix launcher, and Squarepusher a.k.a Twinaphex/Daniel then ported it to the PS3. Byuu then changed his mind about the whole thing (something he did all the fucking time) bailed out of the project, and created Higan with all the game folder shit it became notorious for. Themaister and TA then took SSNES and it evolved into RetroArch, and the rest is history.

>> No.8811048

>>8795051
No, they can't.

>> No.8811063

I JUST WANT TO PLAY THE FUCKING SIMPSONS ARCADE GAME REEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.8811113
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8811113

>>8811063
this one?
fbneo runs it fine

>> No.8811178

>>8811048
they can, and just did, nothing you can do about it you fag

>> No.8811195

>>8811178
Not my fault they are faggs and you are low IQ.

>> No.8811206

>>8811195
>no they can't
>"they can and did"
>they are fags
so i guess they can then, huh. the moron reveals himself

>> No.8811213

>>8811195
It'll only happen to MAME, because they deserve it.

>> No.8811278

>>8811206
MAME stopping support for a game != companies being able to force them to do so.
This is why I said you are low IQ, you don't understand what is being said.

>> No.8811304

>>8811278
are you going to cover their court costs? didn't think so

>> No.8811376

A whole thread to bitch about arcade emulation and autistic RetroArch vs. MAME shitflinging, when what we should REALLY be making fun of is fucking PCSX2. Over 20 years in development, and it still shits the bed on half the PS2 library unless you use Software mode, at which point you may as well softmod an actual PS2, and even then some of its most titular games have insane requirements.

>> No.8811419

>>8811376
You think that's bad? The Aquaplus Piece was released in 2001, neither MAME nor RetroArch supports it, and I can't even get a Windows executable for the only emulator.
https://github.com/autch/piemu

>> No.8811473

>>8811304
i'd pitch in. fuck those cunts in suits

>> No.8811474

how old were you guys when you figured out how to use MAME? I was 12, back in 2003. good times. played a lot of shmups on it. used kawaks/neorageX for neo geo stuff because our family pc was a potato even back then and decrypted roms helped a lot

>> No.8811497

>>8811474
15, I think. I thought Marvel Vs. Capcom (the first one) was the coolest shit at the time, and figuring out how to emulate it was the tits. But oh, how pissed I was that I couldn't play MvC2.

>> No.8811545

>>8811473
you're a nobody and you're poor and you won't do shit

>> No.8811547

>>8811474
13, using a computer isn't hard, and turtles in time was fucking awesome, and the simpsons!

>> No.8811607

>>8811473
They're too stupid to set up their own Patreon or PayPal now, what makes you think they'd crowdsource their legal fees like other people have done?