Overated Vidya Composers

[Anonymous No.8777260]

95% of his content is just samples —some blatantly stolen.

[Anonymous No.8777261]

>>8777260
Anon, you know nothing about how sampling works do you

[Anonymous No.8777313]

>>8777261
I think that much is clear. I hate when people pretend to know anything about music.

[Anonymous No.8777337]

>>8777260
I don't know who this guy is, but he looks like a pleasant dude. Unlike op, who is a complete faggot.

[Anonymous No.8777352]

>>8777260
Naganuma is one of the most original game composers of all time. Ironic since his music revolves around samples. So many other famous gaming musicians have plagiarism tier influences, but you wont find anything that sounds like Naganuma's work.

[Anonymous No.8777383]

[Anonymous No.8777407]

people who complain about samples are so fucking stupid lol. you might as well call every instrument a sample, why the fuck aren't you making your own instruments to make music idiots, stop copying :)

[Anonymous No.8777423]

>>8777407
This but unironically. If you aren't manufacturing your own instruments, can you really call yourself a musician? All you're doing is using products for their intended purposes.

[Anonymous No.8777430]

>>8777423
yea lets take it to the next step, we were born from our parents we didn't even create ourselves so honestly we are just husks, them being husks to them before them etc etc it keeps going on. let's all just stop doing everything all we do is copy this is getting pathetic.

[Anonymous No.8777505]

>>8777423
There's only 12 notes, anon. Use any of them and you're a hack!

[Anonymous No.8778291]

>>8777260
You want an overrated vidya composer? I'll give you overrated. This faggot right here. Koji Kondo is a massive hack who stole all of his music from random sources. Listen for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPG9enjcZPNr6jUsy66LPKRA8xdBtLSMW

[Anonymous No.8778295]

If your music uses the Solfège that is within human hearing range, you're copying.

[Anonymous No.8778312]

>>8778291
great artists steal

[Anonymous No.8778324]

>>8778312
wow, he's just like me

[Anonymous No.8778539]

>>8778291
They even ripped off the name.
>Super Mario Bros (NES) Music - Overworld Theme
>T-Square - Adventures - 04 Sister Marian
>Sister Marian

[Anonymous No.8778547]

>>8778291
well he stole some great fucking music lemme tell ya the guy got me into deep purple

[Anonymous No.8778562]

>>8778547
That's pretty based.

[Anonymous No.8778603]

>Ctrl+f
>0 results for Grant Kirkhope
The man knows how to create some catchy tunes, but I feel people hype him up too much. His music isn't THAT fucking amazing for how much people give him credit for it. If someone's a musicfag feel free to school me on why he's so well liked outside of nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.8778614]

>>8777383
came here to post this

[Anonymous No.8778625]

>>8777383
Tim Follin overrated? I feel like hardly anyone knows who he is. And his stuff is creative and interesting even when I don't care for it.

Now if you had said Jeroen Tel I'd be right there with you. Outside of Supremacy, pretty much everything he did has this awful twee quality that makes me want to shut it off.

[Anonymous No.8778636]

Masato Nakamura

[Anonymous No.8778642]

>>8777260
retards who hate sampling are the same retards who consider collage art valid (which it is) and doesn't understand how the two are literally identical

[Anonymous No.8778691]

>>8777260
Quite literally all the best memorable songs in JSR were the licensed ones

I dont really get the devotion people have to this guy

[Anonymous No.8778724]

>>8777383
Nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peuTnilEv9g

[Anonymous No.8778737]

>>8777505
>There's only 12 notes
Haha, it seems that you lack some critical information.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=microtonal

[Anonymous No.8778764]

>>8777423
most of honored electronic music producers make their own instruments.

[Anonymous No.8778862]

Bobby Prince. blatantly stole from Pantera, Slayer, and Alice in Chains.

[Anonymous No.8778889]

Motoi Sakuraba. Guy gets staler as time goes by and he still gets tons of work.

[Anonymous No.8779086]

>>8778737
I prefer real music thanks.

[Anonymous No.8779107]

>>8778291
'This faggot' composed the most iconic video game track of all time when he was like 23. Gotta respect that

[Anonymous No.8779126]

>You could've gotten away with plagiarism and become rich and famous before the internet became a thing that allowed people to quickly look shit up and call you out
Life sucks.

[Anonymous No.8779134]

>>8777383

He's praised for the wrong reasons. There's dozens of European composers who are just as good at "audio wizardry" as Follin is - what makes him special is that he can actually write good music.

[Anonymous No.8779137]

>>8779126
Yeah, you, a person who is posting on an anonymous forum in some shitty bait thread instead of doing something else, would definitely become rich and famous if it wasn't for the internet

[Anonymous No.8779146]

>>8779137
I only work in the aerospace industry after all.

[Anonymous No.8779168]

Nobuo Uematsu. A lot of his battle themes are good, but everything else is just boring and unremarkable.

[Anonymous No.8779286]

>>8778603
I'm not the biggest fan of his music, but I have to give him credit for pioneering variable soundtrack arrangements (like how the instruments seamlessly switch to marimbas when you go underwater in banjo-kazooie)

[Anonymous No.8779595]

>>8778862
On request from his client, and at least they were like remixes, taking aspects from rock and metal songs and then turning them into something different. You can recognize a lot of the tracks by ear, but they are also not 1 to 1 copies, and some of the ripoffs are different enough that they aren't even obvious.

He has his original stuff, some of it is in Doom, but you can hear a bunch in Commander Keen, Wolfenstein 3D and Duke Nukem 3D, but also games like Black Knight, Abuse, and DemonStar.

[Anonymous No.8779609]

>>8777383
take that back

[Anonymous No.8779615]

>>8777260
Overrated? He has not done nearly enough and I wish he did more.

[Anonymous No.8779630]

>>8778603
his music is carried by the art style and atmospheres of the games that he works on, but i don't really consider that a bad thing in a game

[Anonymous No.8779641]

>guys i love aphrodite's child, vangelis, pink floyd and van der graaf generator

[Anonymous No.8779652]

>>8779641
Cool inspirations.

[Anonymous No.8779679]

>>8779652
cool targets for plagiarism ;)

[Anonymous No.8780737]

>>8777407
>>8777423
i guess stomp is the most original music act ever

[Anonymous No.8780786]

>>8779679
You don't know what true plagiarism looks like
https://youtu.be/s3tZVBGwF0k
https://youtu.be/46qxMSe3p5g

[Anonymous No.8780794]

>>8780786
The composer of Gradius V remade the theme from its own franchise for the same boss that appeared in the previous game of its own franchise.
Dumbass.

[Anonymous No.8781607]

>>8779126
Who? The Dragon Ball Z composer?

[Anonymous No.8781879]

>>877928
>pioneered variable soundtrack arrangements
He literally copied that idea from Michael
Land's imuse soundtracks. He has even admitted it.

[Anonymous No.8781886]

>>8779286
>pioneered variable soundtrack arrangements
He literally copied that idea from Michael
Land's imuse soundtracks. He has even admitted it.

[Anonymous No.8781908]

There’s creative use of sampling and then there’s this guy who basically transposes a few edgy loops from Spectrasonics sample CDs and calls it a day. Meanwhile nobody who has ever played the Silent Hill series and gushes over the soundtracks knows who Eric Persing even is.

[Anonymous No.8781934]

>a bunch of unsuccessful worthless nobodies whining about people who dedicate their lives to producing art beloved by thousands
God this board is a fucking dump

[Anonymous No.8781950]

>>8781934
>nooooooooo you can’t criticize a successful thing unless you yourself are successful at said thing it’s not faaaaaiiiir
brainlet hours

[Anonymous No.8781973]

>ctrl+f
>Sugiyama
>0 results
thank god you contrarian fucks haven't touched him yet. I will kill myself if anybody talks shit about him. only those who do not understand baroque counterpoint can call his music bad.

[Anonymous No.8782034]

>>8777260
>Overated Vidya Composers
Yuzo Koshiro. Judging from his 90s output of music this guy is completely incompetent. Right? Wrong. His recent work from the last ten years is surprisingly good! Never write composers off because they fucked things up in their early years

[Anonymous No.8782048]

>>8781934
>God this board is a fucking dump
At least they're trying to talk about games. Fucking /v/ is straight up /b/ now. Last week I saw a guy post himself fucking a mare. The thread hit the bump limit and got archived.

[Anonymous No.8782101]

>BRO IT'S JUST SAMPLES
Which is 100% of all music that isn't made solely on physical instruments you fuck.

[Anonymous No.8782241]

>>8782034
This board loves to crow PLAGIARISM! whenever a famous composer's influences are discovered. What they don't seem to grasp is that this is what was desired at the time. You had these beep boop machines and the man who could make them sound like famous music was just the genius everyone wanted. No shit they "stole" from other sources.
After CD consoles and the ability to actually make things sound identical to pop music made the process passé then composers were tasked with making stuff sound more like movies. And once people got sick of that we are on original compositions and deliberately retro sounding beep boops.

[Anonymous No.8783001]

>>8778691
It's all people who only know SEGA because of Sonic, heard the mashup between JSR and Sonic on YouTube and thought Jet Set Radio was so unique and amazing because they lack any kind of experience playing games not on a Nintendo console
(tl;dr, teenagers)

[Anonymous No.8783135]

>>8778724
>People hype up the Plok boss theme so much but never mention this banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXWzWmtqP7o

[Anonymous No.8783147]

>>8782101
They're going to be in for a rude awakening when they learn a lot of the tracks they like were made in a sound studio with two dudes sitting at computers with midi keyboards

[Anonymous No.8783168]

>>8783147
How is that a rude awakening? How else would you do chiptunes or MIDI?

[Anonymous No.8783348]

>>8779168
I don't even dislike his music but the fact that I've seen people say he makes better classical music than Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, etc baffles me

[Anonymous No.8784240]

>>8783348
>people say he makes better classical music than Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, etc
Weeabooism is a serious illness that is on the rise.

[Anonymous No.8784259]

Mark Morgan. He is talented, but lazy.
Half of the Fallout 1 soundtrack is stolen from the Aphex Twins. Most of the Fallout 2 soundtrack is reused from Fallout 1 and other games that he worked on like Netstorm.

[Anonymous No.8784292]

Inon Zur is another. He has produced some beautiful tracks like Targos Town in Icewind Dale II and Lelianna's Song in Dragon Age: Origins, but overall his style is pretty generic. His soundtrack for Elder Scrolls: Blades was a pale imitation of Jeremy Soule.

[Anonymous No.8784296]

>>8784240
newfags like you not lurking moar is far more serious

[Anonymous No.8784529]

>>8783001
>noooooo you can’t enjoy a Sega game, you have to give the proper veneration the one true holy Mario 64, the single origin of all games that followed it. Before Mario 64 there were no games.

[Anonymous No.8784535]

>>8784259
>Aphex Twins

[Anonymous No.8784623]

>>8777383
This, he's pretty good, but honestly I just like other composers more.

[Anonymous No.8784628]

>>8784535
more like Aphex Twintails

[Anonymous No.8785062]

>>8778603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikne8j32f88
>>8778291
literally and unironically he is underrated if anything

[Anonymous No.8785607]

>>8784259
retard jannies deleted my post, so here’s another one
>the Aphex Twins

[Anonymous No.8785612]

>>8783001

[Anonymous No.8785875]

>>8779134
>There's dozens of European composers who are just as good at "audio wizardry" as Follin is
>What makes him special is that he can actually write good music.
What? Of course that's what makes him very special. There's no point in being a technical wizard if you have nothing of worth to show for it

[Anonymous No.8786519]

lick my taint jannies

[Anonymous No.8787025]

>>8778889
He can still put out some amazing tracks but nowadays there are a lot of misses or tracks that just don't stand out much (his work on the Tales of games past Symphonia and Abyss are guilty of this if you ask me)

[Anonymous No.8787207]

Michiru Yamane is kinda mmeh outside SOTN soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.8787227]

>>8778625
MYTH is literally the best 8 bit video game music ever composed. Jeroen Tel is absolutely not overrated.

[Anonymous No.8787235]

>>8787227
Myth is good, but the theme is just one of Tel's less cutesy compositions.

[Anonymous No.8787250]

>>8784292
Go listen to the Starfield medley. He was generic because he wasn't used to cinematic scores, but he definitely knows his flaws and keeps improving.

[Anonymous No.8787271]

>>8783348
These. I like Uematsu but he's basically Wagner for little kids and people with 100 IQs

[Anonymous No.8787335]

>>8787271
Wagner is for 100 IQ people who think they like "classics".

[Anonymous No.8787346]

>>8787335
So basically every composer from the last 130 years that didnt fall for the (((serialism))) psyop?

[Anonymous No.8787369]

>>8777383
He’s very good but the froth at the mouth worship of him as the second coming of Christ is silly. There were a lot of similar composers making music for Eurojank around the same time that we’re doing exactly the same stuff as him, arguably even better

[Anonymous No.8787372]

>>8787346
Serialism is great when it's applied to a few sections of a composition rather than the whole thing. Bela Bartok's Allegro Barbaro is a great example.

[Anonymous No.8787779]

Shoji Meguro is pretty fucking overrated for the most part. He CAN be good (Maken X and P5 for example) but if you've heard, say, one Meguro boss theme you've heard every one of them. His contributions to Persona are highly overrated since he wasn't really involved in the music in the series (aside for Poem For Everyone's Souls) prior to Persona 3. Also fuck him for completely jettisoning Hidehito Aoki's soundtrack for P1 in favor of his own P3/P4 style trash.

>>8784292
I really hate how soundtracks have turned into EPIC CINEMATIC EXPERIENCES to go with games. I think P5's soundtrack kind of stands out because of it going with the funk and jazz fusion style where everything needs to either sound like it came from a superhero film or be EPIC ROCK or full of sick beat drops.

Which is funny seeing as jazz fusion is basically one of the cornerstones of video game music along with prog rock and early electronica. It's just at some point after the '90s, these influences went away.

[Anonymous No.8787956]

>>8784259
>Half of the Fallout 1 soundtrack is stolen from the Aphex Twins.
no it isn’t, retard

[Anonymous No.8787982]

>>8784259
>the Aphex Twins

[Anonymous No.8788090]

>>8784292
His soundtrack for the DoW expansions were trash next to Soule's.

[Anonymous No.8789745]

>>8778889
>>8787025
Yeah, his earlier stuff is I really respect.
Now he's still cranking out music at a stupidly high rate and it's become mediocre. Like he's just wagin' it for a paycheck or what.
It's hard to maintain a high level of creativity through decades, and few people do.

[Anonymous No.8789856]

OP here, I actually love Hideki Naganuma, I just wanted to see how contrarian this board really is. I'm disappointed, but at the same time I got what I expected.

[Anonymous No.8789870]

>>8789856
I’ve seen several other threads here where people shit on him because of his Twitter account

[Anonymous No.8790565]

>>8777407
any time I hear catchy rap music, I just look up the sample and listen to that instead

[Anonymous No.8790945]

>>8779595
I was mainly taking the piss, but thank you for this informative post.

[Anonymous No.8791079]

>>8783168
>How is that a rude awakening?
Look at how dumb OP is and realize there's no floor to this hell. That would be a surprise to someone here.

[Anonymous No.8791086]

>>8790565
I sincerely doubt that because due to how the sample may have been edited utilized, the original song might not be anything like what you heard.

[Anonymous No.8791089]

>>8791086
Yes, it's better.

[Anonymous No.8791094]

>>8779107
lmao how old are you? You should have accomplished a lot by the time you are 23

[Anonymous No.8791114]

>>8791094
Joke's on you, faggot, like most people, I haven't accomplished shit, and I'm 47! Ha! What are you gonna do about it?

Fuck.

[Anonymous No.8791138]

>>8777260
John carmack obvs