/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.877593]

Was talking with a friend the other day, we were chitchatting about old school RPG when he came up with Phantasy Star, seemed surprised when I told him I had never played a Phantasy Star of my life and called me a casual scum, how do I prevent this? Which Phantasy Star should I play first?

As for the rest, Phantasy Star threads

[Anonymous No.877594]

>>877593
They're not worth playing
Genesis had nothing but horrible RPG

[Anonymous No.877602]

>>877594
Ouch, are all your opinions that bad?

[Anonymous No.877609]

>>877593
Why is pikachu in a sega game... in the past?

[Anonymous No.877613]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcIKygpGzoc

This is probably my favorite OST in the whole genesis era.

OP, you should start with the first one and finish them all

[Anonymous No.877615]

>>877609
Most importantly, why is he wearing blue eyeliner?

[Anonymous No.877620]

>>877594
Come on, man. Those kind of replies belong on /v/.

[Anonymous No.877624]

>>877594
Your opinions are poop.

[Anonymous No.877637]

You should play IV at least.

If you're looking to really avoid being casual scum play 2, or the original with the retranslation for the glorious FM Chip.

[Anonymous No.877639]

You should probably play the Mega Drive ones
The first one is okay, but I wouldn't really recommend it.

[Anonymous No.877642]

Just play the whole SMS/GEN games (well, I guess PSIII can be ignored), since they are all connected, playing them all will enrich your experience greatly.

[Anonymous No.877643]

>>877593
IV is one of the best JRPGs and is a must-play, I and II have historical value.

[Anonymous No.877652]

The first games were far ahead of its time, but still felt decidedly archaic and counter intuitive. I love the experimental design put into these.
PS2 is probably the hardest jrpg ever made.

Have a cute bunny.

[Anonymous No.877664]

PS4 modernized the gameplay with loads of cutscenes done VN style, 3 is a mess and should be avoided.
If you want to understand what the hell is going on in the plot at the beginning of 1 you will need to find a copy of the manual or look up the story online. It's a bit more complex than it seems for a game of the time.
Also, if you're playing PS1 or 2, you will definitely need graph paper.

[Anonymous No.877678]

>>877652
>PS2 is probably the hardest jrpg ever made.
Hardly. Just equip two shields and spam items.

[Anonymous No.878686]

It's too bad they butchered PS3, the plot was so grandios and epic.

[Anonymous No.878706]

>>877593
Play Phantasy Star IV. While it's in the same canon as the rest of the series, you can easily get the story without playing them. It stands alone just fine.

Plus, it's one of the best JRPGs of its era. Fantastic game.

If you love PS4, then play 1 and 2 as well.

[Anonymous No.878737]

>and called me a casual scum,
Maybe you should point out he plays a shittastically written weaboo scifi RPG that doesn't even let you select which enemies in a group you want to attack and is effectively one of the worst and most boring RPGs in existence. Though there are a few catchy tunes in the series.

[Anonymous No.878743]

what's that PS in OP's pic?

was there a PS for windows 3.1?
or is it an emulator?

[Anonymous No.878749]

>>877652
>PS2 is probably the hardest jrpg ever made.
Phhhhthahahahahahahaha!! God no. The start is fairly hard, but every monster after that is damn weak. The only real danger lategame is the entire party being smacked with sleep spells (which ends in a game over if the entire party is sleeping). That and Neifirst (who actually hits harder than Dark Force).

All of PS2's difficulty is in the length and size of the dungeons, but once you get the Crescent Gear, you can heal up for free in battle and save your TP.

Phantasy Star 4 on the other hand is much more difficult, as monsters do masses of damage, TP costs are cruel, and the bosses hit like a ton of bricks. The dungeons are much shorter, yes, but the monsters more than make up for that.

tl;dr Phantasy Star 2 is fucking easy.

>>878686
It had major potential, but they blew it. Even now multi-generational games are unheard of. I can name five at best. The only "modern" one is Agarest, which honestly isn't that great.

[Anonymous No.878752]

>>877593
use fusion instead of what ever that emulator is.

[Anonymous No.878764]

>>877652
Very recently there was a hack released that makes PS2 more like PSIV
I haven't tried it yet so I don't know how good it actually is.
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1404/

[Anonymous No.878802]

Phantasy Star 1 is part of that beautiful era of RPGs before cutscenes and scripted events came and took it all away

[Anonymous No.878804]

>>878764
WOW. now this looks like it could be pretty interesting.

[Anonymous No.878806]

>>878802
Yeah, it almost feels like a tabletop game.

[Anonymous No.878990]

>>877593
TL;DR: Play them in order from I to IV, but skip III. Just read a summary on the internet for it. The series follows a very tight canon and characters from earlier games often appear in later games.

PSI laid the groundwork for everything in the series and is the most open-ended.
PSII is hardest difficulty-wise and the darkest plot-wise.
PSIII can and should be avoided but introduces Wren the android.
PSIV is best overall in terms of story and gameplay, taking the best from all of them. Easiest in the series but is not Kirby easy(if you want to ramp up the difficulty, there are good romhacks for that). My only gripe, unlike the previous games, party members don't stay around forever.

[Anonymous No.879015]

>>877678
I was talking about the dungeon designs, they are intense.
I equipped two knifes.

[Anonymous No.879016]

Sure have been a lot of Phantasy Star threads lately.

2 is the best no matter what they say.

But play 1-2-4 then maybe 3 if you want one last little taste

[Anonymous No.879019]

>>878990
Also note:
Best way to play I & II are either Phantasy Star Collection on GBA or downloading the roms.

PS I has an excellent translation patch here(use it on a Japanese version for superior music): http://www.romhacking.net/reviews/861/#review

while PS II has a decent retranslation here: http://www.romhacking.net/reviews/858/#review

Some other hacks here: http://www.romhacking.net/?page=hacks&genre=&platform=&game=&category=&perpage=20&title=phantasy+&author=&hacksearch=Go

[Anonymous No.879021]

>>878743
MEKA emulator

[Anonymous No.879024]

>>879019
How is the gba versions better than the gens? That tiny screen takes away a lot from the visuals.

[Anonymous No.879025]

>>879019
Or you could put a cartridge in your Genesis.

[Anonymous No.879030]

>>879027
But it's so much sweeter having gone through 1 and 2.

[Anonymous No.879027]

If you only get to play 1 PS game OP play the 4th one. You will be greatly satisfied.
It's one of the only RPG i do 1 walktrhough a year. It's that good.

[Anonymous No.879039]

>>879030

Agreed 100%
Even the 3rd one for the Wren impact.
but still. If theres only 1 phantasy star to play. it's IV on genesis

manly tears goes to Alys ;[

[Anonymous No.879054]

Phantasy Star Four is a game you can put alongside Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 6, Secret of Mana, that rpg with the kids i can't think of the name etc.

1 and 2 are very tedious, and closer to 8 bit games then 16 bit games.( they might even be 8 bit i dunno)

[Anonymous No.879072]

>>879039
You should really spoiler that shit.

[Anonymous No.879081]

>>879054
1 is fully 3rd gen but the fact that it can easily pass for 4th gen and it came out in like 1987 says a lot about Phantasy Star 1.

[Anonymous No.879086]

>>879072
spoiling old video games is like spoiling star wars to me. if you still dont know that darth vader is luke's father, tough shit.

[Anonymous No.879087]

>>879086
yeah but for op's sake you asshat

[Anonymous No.879107]

>>878802
>before cutscenes and scripted events came and took it all away
PS1, like other jrpgs of it's time, is full of what I call text cutscenes though, which really isn't that different from watching a cut scene in a later FF game... in fact I sometimes find them more annoying, especially when the game feels the need to tell me the same thing 5 different ways.

[Anonymous No.879119]

>>879107
PS1 is actually way worse than its contemporaries like Final Fantasy, Dragon Warrior, and Ultima: Exodus

[Anonymous No.879127]

>>879086
for games like the FF series and Chrono Trigger, I could see this, but Phantasy Star is kinda like... to continue your analogy of sci-fi films... Close Encounters of the First Kind, it was some what popular it it's time, most people have heard of it, but not that many people that didn't see/play it at the time have actually seen/played it.

[Anonymous No.879132]

>>879127
I meant Close Encounters of the Third Kind, obviously

[Anonymous No.879138]

>>879127
>Close Encounters

Fucking hate that movie.

Polite sage because I'm getting off topic.

[Anonymous No.879142]

>>879119
I wasn't commenting on if the game was good or not though in fact my post was purposely neutral

[Anonymous No.879145]

>>879138
Why?

[Anonymous No.879149]

>>879138
I wouldn't say I HATE it, but personally I do think it's dull and doesn't really go anywhere draw your own conclusion as to why I used it as an analogy for Phantasy Star

[Anonymous No.879157]

>>879149
Jeez it's about the dude's relationship with his wife. You were probably a kid when you watched it.

[Anonymous No.879178]

>>879019
>Phantasy Star Collection on GBA

Dood, no. The music suffers (being lower quality) and the bright palette feels cheap as hell.

[Anonymous No.879193]

>>877593
Why odes that look like a old Japanese pc.

[Anonymous No.879349]

Play 1, 2 then 4. You will really appreciate 4 that way. Unlike FF there is s contuguous narrative at work. There's a PS2 remake of PS1 available if you'd like.