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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddISs879MN0

>> No.8774931

>>8774930
Looks like Peach Kino back on the menu boys!

>> No.8774935

Now cut every scene Peach isn't on camera and it's perfect.

>> No.8774940

>>8774930
Nice, I still remember back in the early/mid 2000s when this and the SMB3 OVAs were still mythical "lost media"

>> No.8774949

>>8774930
why the fuck is luigi blue?

>> No.8774950

>>8774930
This is early Mario design, where the idea of other humans existing doesn't seem strange. Of course there would be a human prince right? Modern Mario has it strangely that there is seemingly one human city modeled on New York, but the rest of the world are various creatures. Mario, Luigi, and Peach, are the only humans inhabiting the Mushroom Kingdom.

>> No.8774952

>>8774930
That Prince is cute. Shame he's so obscure

>> No.8774953
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>>8774930

>> No.8774967

>>8774953
Lionel Ritchie?

>> No.8774970
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>>8774930
>Femboy films

Checks out

>> No.8774993

>>8774949
This was from like a week after the original Super Mario Bros. came out. Everything was still in flux.

>> No.8775004

>>8774950
It's sometimes easy to forget but Super Mario Bros. was technically a sequel. And since Mario was drawing on classic cartoon characters like Felix the Cat and Mickey Mouse it stands to reason they didn't necessarily expect Peach and Bowser to become regular characters and instead figured each game would be Mario dealing with whatever problem he happened to come across, be that a giant ape kidnapping a woman, a giant reptile kidnapping a princess, etc. Like a traveling do-gooder. This movie pulls that Captain N gimmick where Mario and Luigi get sucked into the TV, the original concept being that they're from "our" world. It wouldn't surprise me if the plan was to have Mario be a more general character, based on all his appearances in other Nintendo games at the time like Wrecking Crew. The sudden success of SMB would have shifted the plan.

>> No.8775014

>>8775004
For a very long time in canon, Mario, Luigi, and Peach, were the only humans in the setting for no reason. Nintendo for whatever reason, decided to explain that as well as explain how Donkey Kong fits into the setting. Why they felt this need, when no one really cared, is beyond me. They now need to explain how Peach made it from human settlements to becoming the Princess of the Mushroom Kingdom. Or if the entire royal family are human.

>> No.8775026

>>8775014
Are you sure that was "canon" or just that those were the only characters actually depicted in the games? Pretty much every piece of tie-in media from the cartoons to comic books had other humans show up from time to time. I think what confused the issue is Toad. In the original game it's implied there isn't really a "Toad" character but just a bunch of servants. And since they're all over the place in the game it gave the impression that that accounted for the entire populace. But there's no real reason to assume that other than the fact the games have a limited cast of characters.

>> No.8775095
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8775095

Reminder Mario is a newtype

>> No.8775157

>FemBoy Films

Stopped immediately.

>> No.8775160

>>8774949
Considering how new the Mario series was when this was made, I'm surprised they got Mario and Princess Peach's colors right.

>> No.8775165

>>8774950
Mario, and all the rest of the "humans" probably aren't "human" anymore. Just vaguely human shaped creatures.
The citizens of New Donk look nothing like the rest of the cast.

>>8775004
>It wouldn't surprise me if the plan was to have Mario be a more general character
I'm almost sure that was the plan. Mario was just a virtual actor, he could be slotted into whatever roll Nintendo needed him to be in. "Adventurer saving a Princess in a fantasy land" was just one of many.
That one just happened to be the one that catapulted him into superstardom, so he became typecast so to speak.

>> No.8775395

>>8774930
Didn't know this anime film existed. I just remember the one where Mario is like an inch tall where it's probably a ripoff of some preexisting Japanese fable with Mario content plastered on top of it.
Also though I don't get the appeal to turning shit into 4K or other attempts at changing old video quality. Based on that youtube link they're making it look less dark. Not sure why it matters to have it look more or less dark. Does't change the plot and it's not like the original quality is bad to the point where you have trouble making out what different objects or characters on screen are.

>> No.8775404 [DELETED] 

>>8775157
Hate to break it to you, but the entire retro landscape is filled with furries, trannies, and other weirdos.

>> No.8775406

Test

>> No.8775421

>>8775395
>Based on that youtube link they're making it look less dark.
Maybe you're watching it in 144p? The image is dark primarily because it's incredibly noisy.

>> No.8775498 [DELETED] 

>>8775404
Liking furry is cool though.

>> No.8775560

>>8775014
her name was Princess Toadstool and she is a fungoid like Toad and the rest

>> No.8775567

>Femboy films

...yeah, bye

>> No.8775573

>>8775560
No, her name was always Princess Peach in the Japanese SMB1. Princess Toadstool is something that Nintendo of America invented likely because Peach seemed like a non-sequitur.

Princess Peach -> Princess Toadstool
King Koopa -> King Bowser
Kinopio -> Toad
Kurbio -> Goomba
Nokonoko -> Koopa
Pakkun Flower -> Piranha Plant
Jugem -> Lakitu
Metto -> Buzzy Beetle
Killer -> Bullet Bill
Pukupuku -> Cheep Cheep
Gesso -> Blooper

>> No.8775580

This is great.
These people are making better 4K/HD restorations of retro anime than the official studios who rely on extreme amounts of DNR.
The only anime restorations I've seen that don't have heavy amounts of DNR are Neon Genesis Evangelion and Studio Ghibli's restorations. Too bad they're not in 4K.
Ghibli did do their restorations in 6K but they haven't released any of their films in 4K UHD yet, not even the recent CGI one.

>> No.8775729

>>8775580
What is DNR?

>> No.8775737

>>8775729
Digital Noise Reduction
It removes film grain from the video but it also removes detail, smears the picture, and makes the film scans look like artificial ass.
Look at the 4K "restoration" of Lupin III: The Mystery of Mamo to see how DNR massacred the quality of the film.

>> No.8775746

>>8775737
but isn't this version from an original reel as opposed to an upscale of already released video

>> No.8775750

Amuro Ray Mario kino is back on the menu

>> No.8775754

>>8775746
Yes. It is from an original reel.
There are terrible instances of DNR.
The Blu-ray for Horus, Prince of the Sun has extremely terrible DNR from Q-Tec to the point that people mistook it from an upscaled LaserDisc capture, even if it was an actual HD scan.
The sad part is that this DNR'd Blu-ray is still the best version of the film available and it has some (albeit minor) improvements over the original DVD release, which was taken from a LaserDisc capture.

>> No.8775760

>>8775746
Yes, they're saying that because they aren't upscaling or remastering a digital source, they aren't using DNR that is prone to destroying detail.

Having access to the original film reel means they can do some really good remastering.
https://youtu.be/8J_b8lUajy4

Someone separate to Femboy Films happened to release a 4K HD restoration a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciUIWWcTI2E

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>>8775160
I don't think they had a set colour scheme until SMB3

>> No.8775763

Is this the video that's being "restored" by Femboy Films? Fucking incredible isn't it?

Just brandishing your sexual proclivities on the trademark for a business that restores children's animation.

Maybe I can start a company to produce kids TV called Pegging Productions.

Oh, and that restoration? Running a digitised video clip through Da Vinci or Topaz Video Enhance to upscale to 4K. Pathetic. Anyone with $200 to cover the software costs could do the same thing.

>> No.8775764

>>8775754
>>8775760
right, but not everyone has access to original reels

>> No.8775765

>>8775764
Yes.

The name Femboy Films came about as a joke suggestion on Reddit that they adopted into their actual name.

>> No.8775768

>>8775764
Yeah, the guy who got ahold of the Mario anime reel here paid $20k for the privilege of releasing it to the public, you know.

>> No.8775773

>>8775765
>>8775768
shame they didn't do the same to the SMB3 OVAs too

>> No.8775774

>>8775768

Did he crowdsource for that money though? I've been thinking of doing the same thing.

BTW, the restoration is shit. The line work is getting trimmed in the "restored" version because of the AI they're using - a prosumer version of Da Vinci.

>> No.8775775

>>8775773
They probably couldn't find film reels for that.
Also, it's an OVA so it probably never had any film prints made outside of the original negatives.

The best you can hope for would be AI upscales using Discotek's AstroRes.

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>> No.8775789

>>8775775
I just watched them on a CRT so they are at least somewhat watchable

>> No.8775790

>restoration

More like soul removal

>> No.8775791 [DELETED] 

>>8775404
That might be the case but they should be pushed out as fucking far away as possible, some of us are healthy and normal and like to enjoy hobbies without being in the pipeline to prison or mental institute (which is where those people belong).

>> No.8775793

>>8775789
Based and CRTpilled.
But I'mma take it a step further.
How about I upscale the OVAs to HD with artificial grain, make 480p downscales of them for a DVD player, then watch them on my CRT?
Use AI upscaling to make them look like a DVD restoration.

>> No.8775796

>>8775793
are you sure you'll even be able to see anything at that point?

>> No.8775812
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>>8775775
>Also, it's an OVA so it probably never had any film prints made outside of the original negatives.

They scanned a Kentauros no densetsu reel, which was an OVA.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/17339/Kentauros_no_Densetsu

>>8775790
If you don't like the restoration efforts, you can feel free to watch the clean 16mm scan someone already did.

>>8775763
No AI upscale. this is a 16mm scan someone else did in 4k. They are doing color correction and other improvements.

>> No.8775824
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>>8775763
All their restoration works are on old anime, ain't no kid gonna watch that. They know exactly who their target audience is (tranime autists)

>> No.8775828
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8775828

>>8775774
Comparing FemboyFilms' trailer to inkblot1's released restoration, the former definitely has the better color and definition, but has some of the sides trimmed off with a narrower aspect ratio.

Both of these are produced from Carnivol's 4K YouTube upload, but from what I understand the finished product from FemboyFilms will be produced from a source directly from Carnivol.

>> No.8775871

>>8774967
prince's bassist iirc

>> No.8775883

>>8775824
Nah fuck that, no one should be fucking announcing their fetish in their work.

>> No.8775897

>>8774949
It's Bluigi

>> No.8775902
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>AI upscale

yeah no thanks

>> No.8775905

>>8775902
Not an AI upscale. The original 16mm 4K scan is the base. They may be running AI to clean up the film and remove dirt and damage and color correct.

>> No.8775926

>>8775573
Weirdly "King Koopa" was primarily used in American pop culture until around the mid-90s.

>> No.8775928

>>8775775
>Also, it's an OVA so it probably never had any film prints made outside of the original negatives.

It depends on the OVA obviously, but reading about them it turns out a bunch of them were screened in Hong Kong as regular films. That would mean a bunch of 16mm or 35mm reels were made and likely just floating around or forgotten about. Some would pop up on auction sites, which is where they buy their films.

>> No.8775931
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>>8775902
Peach's Derp face is on the original 16mm scan as well.

>> No.8775938
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8775938

>Announcing this on Twitter & YouTube rather than just putting it out right as it's finished
It's gonna be Daicon III all over again
I don't want more heartbreak, please let me end up wrong

>> No.8775939

>>8775928
That's interesting.
I also assume the same thing happens in Taiwan.

>> No.8775946
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8775946

Reminder of the old quality.

>> No.8775956
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8775956

>>8775946

>> No.8775958

>>8775883
Quentin Tarantino is one of the most popular directors of all time and he puts his foot fetish on display right in his movies.

>> No.8775968
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>>8775958
Miyazaki has an actual foot fetish and like 75% of all female characters are barefoot, with everything ranging from small petite feet to huge mommy feet bigger than your character

>> No.8775969

>>8775905
>color correct.
I don't understand how people do this when they don't have a reference for what the colors were supposed to be in the first place.

>> No.8775976

>>8775931
This looks fine. I think part of why everyone is obsessed with restorations is they don't know just how shitty movies looked in the 80s. This is probably exactly what people saw projected in the theater back then.

>> No.8775980

>>8774930
>remove all soul from the video by "improving" it

>> No.8775983

>>8775976
>>8775969
Colors fade on reels over time and the reels get damaged by replaying it. Finding promotional screenshots in magazines or elsewhere would likely be a good reference. When films were newly screened they were pristine looking. Most people remember watching films on VHS however, which were lower quality.

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>>8775939
Yes, I found it. It's a big article from the Japanese anime magazine Animage which got translated. It mentions Demon City Shinjaku was screened in Hong-Kong.

https://fullfrontal.moe/animage-1988-11-ova/

>> No.8775994 [DELETED] 

>>8775498
Only if you like anthro girls. If you're one of those weirdos who wants to live his life as a cereal mascot you need professional help.

>> No.8776000

>>8775824
>they
He.

>> No.8776025

>>8775958
He doesn't have a company with a paraphilia in the name too, and no I won't fucking kowtow to AGPs.

>> No.8776030
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>>8776025

>> No.8776032

>>8774930
Who's the cutie on the right?

>> No.8776034

How come this Peach is so beautiful?

>> No.8776038 [DELETED] 

>>8775994
>>8775498

You're both incredibly unwell and belong on a cross.

>> No.8776050

>>8774930
Mario blinking with his pupil.

>> No.8776059

>>8775763
no need to lie just because you are angry

>> No.8776067
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>>8775160
It was made after Mario 2 JP (Lost Levels), but before Mario 3/Mario 2 USA. Mario, Peach and Bowser already had their standardized design, but Luigi was still just a Mario recolor at this point.

>> No.8776069
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>>8775969
>I don't understand how people do this when they don't have a reference for what the colors were supposed to be in the first place.

This is where magazines come in. They are printed on glossy paper, which lasts longer and can be used as reference. Promotional images are taken from the original cels or 16-32mm print, rather than the VHS so they are pristine and perfect.

>> No.8776072

>>8776067
Yes, I actually believe this film's major contribution to the Mario canon is that it's the first time Luigi is protrayed by being taller and thinner. This became part of his standard design. Green makes sense as it's the opposite of Red.

>> No.8776076

>>8776069
>original cels
This is risky. Animators sometimes used deliberately garish colors on the cels because they knew they'd be dulled by the process of photographing them to film and then again when projected on screen or broadcast on television. Disney's Sleeping Beauty Blu-ray looks ridiculous because they "corrected" to the gaudy cel paint.

>> No.8776119

>>8776067
Also wanted to mention that the OVA features some music that was only featured in the arcade version of SMB1 called Vs. Super Mario Bros.

https://youtu.be/1jPV3hrtgDI?t=272
https://youtu.be/8J_b8lUajy4?t=955
This tune got wider recognition after it was used in Super Mario Maker.

>> No.8776129 [DELETED] 

>>8775498
Nope

>> No.8776564

>>8774930
Up-rezzed video is soulless and has terrible issues with fidelity.

>> No.8776640

>>8776564
>Up-rezzed video

Dumb nigga shit.

A 16mm video was already scanned in 4K. There is no upscaling.

>> No.8776725

>>8775737
>It removes film grain from the video but it also removes detail, smears the picture, and makes the film scans look like artificial ass.
Film grain is a defect that should be removed.

>> No.8776747 [DELETED] 

>>8775498
based

>> No.8776753
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>>8776725
If by film grain you mean small scratches, bits of dust, etc, yes those are defects that should be removed.
But grain is often used to refer to the "grainy" texture a film has.

Akira went through an extremely lengthy manual restoration process to remove defects whilst retaining the visual fidelity enthusiasts care about.
https://youtu.be/i_lIoXoBMDs
http://www.akira2019.com/akira-2001-remaster.htm

>> No.8776756

>>8774930
Has that prince ever appeared anywhere else afterwards?

>> No.8776760

>>8776564
are you fucking reta-
wait dont bother answering

>> No.8776767

>>8776756
Nope, Nintendo doesn't own the rights to him.
Similar situation to the original characters in the Sonic OVA

>> No.8776780
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8776780

Man, huge step up from those crusty old VHS rips that first made the rounds back in the mid 2000s. Awesome work.

>> No.8776790 [DELETED] 

>>8775498
>>8776747
Disgusting freaks

>> No.8776812

>>8775026
Mushroom Retainers are just humanoid servants for the Princess.

>> No.8776837

I don't really care for this movie but it's still nice to see people restoring old film movies with the original film instead of just some cheap ai upscale tricks.
Femboy Films sounds kinda gay though not gonna lie.

>> No.8776870

>>8776837
AI upscalers are nice to have in the absence of higher quality resources, but extrapolating "truth" from lower quality sources will neve compare to the actual truth from the highest quality source.

AI upscaling techniques are still evolving anyway, and half of it the end user learning the process to seek the best results.
There are a large number of ESRGAN models out there that are trained on specific types of data, so using them to upscale content of a similar type will be effective, whilst producing undesireable results if you present it something unrelated to the model.
For example, if you have a model trained on modern anime blu-ray rips exclusively, that's going to be unsuitable for live action footage, and likely undesireable for DVD or VHS animation that was not digitally animated.
The default model for RealESRGAN in particular tries to reproduce photography thus will start drawing things like hair/fur or brick textures when it thinks it's looking at that sort of detail, but I've observed that it often mistakes pencil on paper for hair.

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>>8776870
>>8776837
Would you notice that this is an AI upscale using ERGON with additional though I did do color correction and add some 16mm grain? Sailor Moon's highest quality release is the Italian DVDs, so fans will need to AI upscale, or somehow get hold of film reels, to get the series in proper HD.

>> No.8776886
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>>8776884
Even upscales are less blurry than the official releases!

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>>8776884
>using ERGON with additional though I did do color correction and add some 16mm grain
That sentence is butchered.

But yeah that screenshot is really convincingly high quality and supports my argument that AI upscaling can be done properly.
A lot of amateur upscaling you see on YouTube uses unsuitable or even bad models.

DiscoTek are doing a really high effort remastering of the original Digimon series, using footage from the high quality JP release to upscale and reproduce the US dub.
https://twitter.com/discotekmedia/status/1503564822088089603
As I understand it, they're using an in-house developed AI upscaling process for this, that'll be possibly better than some of the non-commercial upscalers that are publicly available.

>> No.8776926

>>8774930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J_b8lUajy4

>> No.8776938
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>>8776725
Are details?

>> No.8776945

>>8776926
Yes, that's the film reel source that's being used for the restoration project.

The FemboyFilms restoration is apparently working with the film-reel scans, not the YouTube encode, so the end result should be the best possible quality and hopefully be available for full download outside of a YouTube release.

>>8776938
Funanimation's DBZ release are an absolute shitshow, they have access to all of the film reels and deliberately butcher them with heavy filtering and DNR, despite repeated fan outcry that this is not what they want.

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>>8776945
It boggles the mind that DBZ is Funimation‘s golden goose and they keep releasing shit DVDs for it. No next episode previews, color is blown the fuck out, apparently they’re “restored” but they’re still smothered in grain and occasional reel damage, lines being removed, stretched to widescreen, image cut off on the top and bottom. I mean god damn

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>>8776870
The biggest one that illustrated this point to me was when Disctotek showed the process they were going through with Project A-Ko: until they found the actual film masters, they were going to use a program to upscale the Laserdisc as best as they could. And it was pretty nice, but can't even compare to the master when they finally obtained it.
Original laserdisc

>> No.8776985

>>8776945
They seem to gate these downloads to their patreon (in this case probably not since they receive the film from another guy and he said he would share it when the restoration was done).

>> No.8776987
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>>8776982
Domesday upscaling from Laserdisc

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>>8776987
Actual film master.

>> No.8776996

>>8776985
That's fair, they're doing work that people would be expected to be paid for in the industry.
The only difference between an amateur and a professional is if you're being employed to do something. As this thread has shown, amateur releases and sometimes be superior to professional releases.

>> No.8776998

>>8776725
You don't understand how the material "film" works.

>> No.8777001

>>8776973
The Goku... he is CRYING!

>> No.8777005

>>8776753
>If by film grain you mean small scratches, bits of dust, etc, yes those are defects that should be removed.
Yeah nah, you should make do with the fact that things like this are made up of physical elements. Digitally editing out details no matter how minor is butchery.

>> No.8777017

>>8776982
>>8776987
>>8776994
The Domesday upscale from laserdisc source is still remarkably good quality, it's aesthetically pleasing and more than suitable for commercial consumption.

As someone else pointed out, the old processes for releasing footage resulted in color changes, due to then-available recording and distribution processes.
So upscalers are working with already encoded sources, whereas film is pure unaltered source that may require some manual color correction to look closer to previous releases or more accurate to how the production staff anticipated the end result would have (or should have) looked.
Any sort of color correction should be faithful to in-house production releases, something a fan effort would be lacking, but could still figure out from other official media.

>> No.8777046 [DELETED] 

>>8775791
>being in the pipeline to prison or mental institute
Implying the system wants to remove them lol

No, your retro stuff is going to be heavily indebted to deviants for the rest of your life.

>> No.8777117
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>>8776994
>>8776987
>>8776982
Mine has different colors.

>> No.8777124

>>8777117
Yeah they did further fixes before the release actual release.

>> No.8777127
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>>8776987
Speaking of Domesday, someone had shown interest in doing the Wizardry OVA but never went through with it. It's likely one of the last video game OVA that I can think of to be still stuck on ancient rips.

The Ninja Gaiden OVA got a lmiited DVD release, which is likely using the same print as the LD did. So it's the equivalent of a Domesday rip. But it's still very dark in many areas, so it's hard to make things out.

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>>8777127
Night scenes are like "can't see shit captain".

>> No.8777174

>>8776998
It's probably because most TV animation was done on 16mm instead of 35mm. 16mm film looks rather shitty. When using 35mm the difference is dramatic.

>> No.8777189
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I recently got DiscoTek's blu-ray release of Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, it was apparently a two-man project and they didn't make a huge effort other than to do some really nice packaging, and to distribute the content in stereo audio for the first time.

It's basically just DVD content shipped on two blu-ray discs, but strangely each disc stores all 50 / 15 episodes as a single data stream of telecined or interlaced video, that appears to suffer from artefacts like ringing and dotcrawl as part of the old analogue to digital conversion process.

For DiscoTek this was presumably a low priority project that wasn't worth an extensive restoration process, and fine for playing on a Blu-Ray player that does all the necessary adjustments during playback. For me, it's become a learning exercise in how to use Avisynth scripts to fix the interlacing/telecine and other artefacts for the best possible 480p x264 encodes at the appropriate framerates. I still have much to figure out, Avisynth is not user friendly at all.

Since this is likely the best quality footage that'll ever be available for AoStH, this is where AI upscaling would actually be really useful, but the input must be repaired before AI upscaling can be applied.

>> No.8777220
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>>8777017
It's definitely a moving target. If you're used to A-Ko's hair being fire engine red then it can be jarring. The reality of this process is that there's a difference between what something factually looks like versus what people actually saw. Nobody animating these things expected them to be viewed with so much clarity that you can practically see the texture of the paint. In fact, one of the reason animation even looked so different back in the 80s compared to today was because you needed to have thick linework and high contrast color gradients in order for the detail to be conveyed at all on shitty 480i TV sets.

It's really not that much different than raw pixels in old video games. It's technically the purest rendition of what a game actually looks like but everyone uses CRT filters because there's more to the story than that.

>> No.8777242

Bleh all this autism to film quality while animators are under paid and treated like trash. Who gives a shit when video look fine in 720p.

>> No.8777248
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>>8777189
I've recently been doing a lot of hobby AI upscaling too, so I was interested in doing a test upscale with some footage I successfully de-interlaced, but little else.
https://streamable.com/8154s5
https://files.catbox.moe/zeyr8o.mkv

The first problem was bad input, as mentioned before the source has other artefacts that need correcting like ringing or dotcrawl (the de-interlacing corrects that to an extent, but doesn't eliminate it).
This means that later AI upscaling will upscale the artefacts instead of removing them, unless the AI model is designed to do that.
The de-interlacing process is also not correct, the animation as far as I can tell is 24fps that's been telecined to 29.97fps. My de-interlaced output has doubled the frame rate to 59.94fps
For the sake of processing (video encoding and later AI processing), this means I'm more than doubling the number of stored frames.

The second problem is the AI model I used wasn't appropriate.
I used the default RealESRGAN model that is sort of suitable for real-world material, but is prone to producing blotches of light and dark vertical stripes on flat color painted cels.

tldr; AI upscaling takes work, fix your sources and use the appropriate model.
A lot of upscaled stuff you find on YouTube will do poor jobs like these, because the initial impression is still pretty good before scrutiny.

>> No.8777253

>>8777242
*720p upscaled

>> No.8777269

>prefer old anime look
>removes grain and soulful hairs from old anime
Finding stray hairs in old anime is like an easter egg hunt game that old studios included to make their film more soulful. If you find them all you unlock a secret level.

>> No.8777305

>>8777248
A bit further to the AI upscaling thing, on the subject of official retro video game media.

Nintendo do an amazing job of retaining and preserving their own media, compared to companies like Square Soft.
They're just extremely selective about releasing any of it.
To date, this appears to be the best quality versions of various Metroid series illustration artwork available online.
https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/1439937492531224580
Unfortunately, they chose to distribute it in a restrained resolution, and on Twitter which further compresses the imagery. Had they distributed these images on their own website, they might be pristine quality.

>> No.8777309

>>8775765
>The name Femboy Films came about as a joke suggestion on Reddit that they adopted into their actual name.
They probably took it as a compliment, seeing how many groomers and enablers have infiltrate retrogaming.

>> No.8777310
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>>8777305
Forgot picture

>> No.8777332

>>8777220
How did they think this looks even remotely presentable

>> No.8777347
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>>8777310
Since the Twitter compressed release is still reasonably good quality, compared to other images online that are riddled with artefacts and weird floral watermarks, it's a good candidate for AI upscaling.

https://files.catbox.moe/j9khym.png

This upscale uses a combination of Waifu2X's CuNet model and RealESRGAN's 4X-Plus model, manually compositing the two in Photoshop and doing some manual filtering to get the most aesthetically pleasing result manageable.
In particular, Waifu2X is good at preserving color information whilst RealESRGAN is good at accentuating pleasing detail, but often getting color information or luma depth a bit wrong.
Some greyscale masking of the RealESRGAN output is used to apply lighten and darken filtering of the Waifu2X output with some additional noisy filtering to produce this result.

This is already a somewhat elaborate process for a single image with manual care given, imagine trying to implement this process for video. Automation would absolutely be necessary and it would be better to produce a single AI model that compasses all necessary adjustments.

>> No.8777348

>>8774930
>trailer
Useless. Where is the film?

>> No.8777394
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>>8775926
I've always wanted to know how that name was the one that took off anyway, and also where "Bowser" came from in the first place. Whoever localized the game never came forth to explain it. Anyway, I've always preferred the King Koopa design DiC used in the Mario cartoons to the one codified in the games.

>> No.8777406

>>8775760
>Someone separate to Femboy Films happened to release a 4K HD restoration a few days ago.
Does the Femboy trailer suggest his will be better looking, or is there no reason for him to be finishing hisnow?

>> No.8777415

>>8777394
DiC cartoon is leaning heavily on Aligator influence, when he's a dragon-turtle.

>> No.8777425

>>8777406
I personally think the Femboy restoration looks more promising, see >>8775828

Though it has the caveat of trimming off more of the display area compared to magiblot1's independent restoration.
FemboyFilms' work looks to be better restored as it doesn't use Carnivol's previous YouTube encode as the basis, but the raw film-reel scans.

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>>8777415
The DiC cartoons were weirdly off-model at times, apparently owing to a lack of reference material provided by the companies they were licensing stuff from.
They were limited to playing locally sourced games as reference material, which was less of a problem for the Mario cartoons and for Sonic (which took a TON of liberties), but a big problem for Captain N when every other episode featured new characters or licenses.

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>>8777436
I don't even know how they arrived at some of these color schemes, only Fire Man, Ice Man, and Elec Man are somewhat accurate, and "Cuts Man" is is absolutely wild.

>> No.8777450
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>>8776000
It's a team of people. It's "they", sweaty

>> No.8777457

>>8777441
Why mess with colors, the most memorable aspect in megaman's design was him being the BLUE bomber, the very colors of the Capcom logo. So they made him green for no reason.

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>>8777457
It's a stretch, but they might've just seen Mega Man using the Hyper Bomb acquired from Bomb Man, and went with that.

With such heavy liberties taken, they might've just not cared beyond needing to fulfil specific requirements from the licensor, like something "resembling" the character baring their name.

>> No.8777474

>>8777415
I think the alligator influence is subdued enough to be folded into the "dragon" influence on his turtle base. I just like that he has the one dominant green that isn't competing against any other color in his palette for attention, less spikes on his shell so it's easier to remember and reproduce the pattern, bracelets only on his wrists, a crown instead of a plastered-on mohawk, and better defined anatomy (the games design makes less sense the longer you look at it).

>> No.8777492

>>8777457
There's a rumor that when spot checking the games the tint setting on the TV was off making his sprite look green instead of blue. Don't know if that's true but it's plausible. Ben Hurst, one of the writers on Sonic the Hedgehog, said that they never actually played the games but instead were shown footage of it. There wasn't a lot of research being done. Just a quick peek and then off to the drawing board.

>> No.8777506
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>>8777457
Some of Mega Man's design was directly lifted from the box art so there's that explanation, at least. Also remember that Captain N was from 1989. Mega Man had a whole two games under his belt by then so it wasn't firmly established that being blue was all that important or iconic. And considering that even Mario and Luigi's color schemes were constantly in flux, using the game graphics as reference wasn't an automatic thing you'd do back then. Video game graphics were known to be so rudimentary that the box art typically looked nothing like what you were playing. That was part of why the crash happened since people got fed up with fanciful artwork for games that looked like ass. Nintendo even overcompensated for it's black box line of launch NES titles by being very honest about what the games looked like.

>> No.8777513

>>8777492
>Ben Hurst, one of the writers on Sonic the Hedgehog, said that they never actually played the games but instead were shown footage of it. There wasn't a lot of research being done. Just a quick peek and then off to the drawing board.
For Captain N, they had no reference material of Mother Brain to work with, so they had to have a secretary's kid brought in to beat the game for them so they could use that direct footage for design reference. Naturally, the end result was Captain N's Mother Brain being the farthest thing from the in-game design as possible.

>> No.8777517

>>8776987
>>8777017
>>8777127
Holy shit this is my first time hearing about Domesday... fucking amazing!

>> No.8777520
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>>8777513
You can see where they were going with it, though. Mother Brain's sprite really does look like it has a face and big lips.

>> No.8777528

>>8777520
I can sort of see it. It's a shame, though. The silly cartoon face is in front of a very cool looking brain+spine-in-jar design.

>> No.8777560

>>8776119
Which is funny, since Vs. Super Mario wasn't even released in Japan.

>> No.8777601
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>>8777517
>Holy shit this is my first time hearing about Domesday... fucking amazing!

It's vital since Laserdiscs are getting old and starting to suffer from disc rot. There's a race against time to preserve the contents in the best quality possible.

A proper Domesday rip is quite watchable, and superior to other methods which introduced more blur than is actually on the disc. I recently watched Scramble Wars, which I put off since seeing the original rip was quite poor.

A lot of niche video game OVAs are stuck in VHS/LD hell, so this is the best quality we're gonna get.

>> No.8777642

>>8777601
Forget upscaling, we still don't have a reliable way of ripping LDs period. The entire library of LaserActive games aren't emulated because of it.

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>>8777642
>we still don't have a reliable way of ripping LDs period.

That's what Domesday deplicator is. It's designed originally for a BBC project but with a *wink wink* you can use it on your own backups but we don't endorse piracy.

https://www.domesday86.com/?page_id=197

>> No.8777793

>>8775956
>Am I kawaii desu

>> No.8777810 [DELETED] 

>>8775498
*hating

>> No.8777815 [DELETED] 

>>8775404
>cancer people
Including Sage too.

>> No.8777823

>>8774949
Proto-WuLuigi

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>>8775994
>>8775994
>Only if you like anthro girls.
Based and redpilled.

>> No.8777847 [DELETED] 
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Did anyone say anthro?

>> No.8777946

Are we going to ignore the "April fools!" at the beginning?

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>>8774949
Could be worse, they could've given him SMB1 colors.

>> No.8777992 [DELETED] 

>>8777847
I only heard yiff in hell?

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>>8777946
The April Fools refers to a twitter post they had made where they said they were cancelling the project.

>> No.8778009

>>8777441
The designs were allegedly done by an Australian man with a badly-calibrated television, which is why the colors are so weird.

>> No.8778045
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>>8777989
I like that color scheme.

>> No.8778048
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>>8777441
Cut Man was artistic license but the others were probably based on the manual.

>> No.8778078

Would a 4k restoration still look good on a 1080p display?

>> No.8778086 [DELETED] 

>>8775498
>>8775994
I have nothing against liking anthro girls because I don't get off on larping as a Knight Templar taking my holy sword to the necks of degenerates while beating off to the most profane shit imaginable in my dark little closet, but I do think furries tend to have the most godawful aesthetic sensibilities out there. I'd be listing off what I hate about their art all night if I got started.

>> No.8778098 [DELETED] 

>>8778086
How hilariously appropriate that furries are intrinsically tied to the amiga scene.

>> No.8778110 [DELETED] 

>>8775404
Weird that trannies would be nostalgic for the stuff they played when they were the wrong gender. Why would they want to re-live their old lives?

>> No.8778143

>>8778045
Me too. That's the color I always pick for him in Smash Bros.

>> No.8778147 [DELETED] 

>>8775498
I disagree. Fish and lizard people, on the other hand...

>> No.8778152 [DELETED] 

>>8778110
Adjusted adults don't play with childish toys.

>> No.8778226 [DELETED] 

>>8778086
Furry art is a lot like foot fetish art in terms of how much you have to sift through to find decent stuff.

>> No.8778258 [DELETED] 

>>8778147
Quite based indeed.

>> No.8778270

>>8777441
Most likely early designs/colour schemes

>> No.8778323
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>>8777441
Screwy designs or not, this was actually a great episode. Though it raises questions about how much of a "game master" Captain N actually was since he says it took him 50 tries to get to Cut Man.

>> No.8778332

>>8778323
Who is Lana supposed to be anyway

>> No.8778334

>>8778332
Nobody. Made up wholesale like Captain N himself. The gimmick was that all the video game characters are residents of various locations in Videoland, which Lana is the princess of.

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>>8778332
She's possibly based on Palutena

>> No.8778358
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8778358

>>8777441
You think Mega Man 1 got it bad? Look at this.

>> No.8778359

>>8778332
OC. Probably didn't want to go with a real character like Peach or Zelda out of fear of making it look like they're cucking Mario or Link.

>> No.8778360
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>>8778332
Palutena; the character designer for Captain N (Marcello Vignali) based Lana off her NES manual art.
https://web.archive.org/web/20141230175031/https://www.backofthecerealbox.com/2014/02/palutena-kid-icarus-princess-lana-captain-n.html

>> No.8778362

>>8778332
Kelly Kapowski

>> No.8778368
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8778368

>>8778360
That looks great. Like Don Bluth. Reminds me of this.

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>>8778368
Yeah it's nice, You'll probably like Rachael Moceri's various art pieces too.

>> No.8778447

>>8776985
>>8776996
>they do not know

>> No.8778493 [DELETED] 

>>8775404
muttland. like always them and their massive amount of degenerate subhumans ruin everything

>> No.8778608

>>8775157
triggered?

>> No.8778628
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8778628

>>8774949
Because moonspeak

>> No.8778641

>>8778323
Captain N? What's the N stand for?

>> No.8778645

>>8777642
That's because you don't "rip" LDs, none of that video signal is digital.

>> No.8778658
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>>8778641
Nintendo, it's based on a short story Nintendo Power published in early issues. The company was aware there was an increased concern about "30 minute toy commercials" though, so they made sure never to say Nintendo in the show to downplay the fact that they were marketing a product.

In universe, it stands for the high school he attended: Northridge. He was on swim team.

>> No.8778717
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>>8774930
>luigi staring straight at the princess's booba
>mario has some kind of alien physiology and blinks with his iris

wtf

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>>8778641

>> No.8778735

>>8778658
>The company was aware there was an increased concern about "30 minute toy commercials" though
Actually it was already illegal under the Children's Television Act

>> No.8778854

>>8777220
>It's really not that much different than raw pixels in old video games. It's technically the purest rendition of what a game actually looks like but everyone uses CRT filters because there's more to the story than that.
hahahahaha

>> No.8778886

>>8775883
How much of it is a tacky joke though

>> No.8779149

>>8778886
>Femboy
That ain't no tacky joke

>> No.8779319

>>8777520
Shit man, the Captain N motherbrain is terrifying

>> No.8779681
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8779681

The comics had the best version of Samus. They took the bounty hunter thing literally and made her into a female Han Solo who only wants money and Kevin's dick.

>> No.8779690

>>8779681
>They took the bounty hunter thing literally and made her into a female Han Solo

I think that's the idea, just that in the games she's always getting caught up in Space Pirate and Metroid shenanigans.

>> No.8779759 [DELETED] 

>>8774930
>femboy films
You'll never be a woman.

>> No.8780060

>>8778727
Hell yeah.

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8780113

>>8774952
Don't call men cute anon.

Shame on you.

>> No.8780121

>>8778383
Right Euro/Aussie movie sequel to anime
>>8778368
Childhood "gay” American movie I would watch and own VHS.
>>8778048
>>8777441
Oh, that Cuntman.

>> No.8780125

>>8778360
Wow. Western design never fails to turn every design into a whore.

>> No.8780150

>>8778368
Everyone on this poster looks like they sound like Dom Deluise.

>> No.8780161
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8780161

There's a shit load of these images. Enough to damn near make the movie for real.

>> No.8780187

>>8775095
Mario is Yaumcha?

>> No.8780192

>>8779681
I prefer my dumb bimbo in blue spandex jumpsuit

>> No.8780195

>>8775976
>This looks fine.

It's watchable, but a film reel that's been sitting for 30 years will inherently have its colors fade over time. Each time it's played it accumulates more and more errors since the process of playing creates scratches. The restoration is trying to get it to look like what it did originally when it was fresh.

>> No.8780209

>>8780161
Mairo and Luigi ain’t brown. That’s Daisy mostly.

>> No.8780893

>>8774931
Kill yourself.

>> No.8780920

>>8780125
And then Sakurai took Palutena's design and said "let me show you how it's done" and whore'd her up to the tenth dimension.

>> No.8781118

>>8774930
Who's the twink?

>> No.8781902

>>8774930
>Hmm I bet this is an amateur job by a bunch of sexually confused teenagers made with free or pirated software.
>Open link
>Femboyfilms
Every time

>> No.8782006

>>8778323
>dolphin shorts
Nothing else turns my dick into a comet like this

>> No.8782059

>>8782006
What about dolphin shorts that barely fit due to all the booty they contain

>> No.8782260

>>8782006
Is that what they're called? I thought they were Daisy Dukes.

>> No.8782642

>>8781902
They're rumored to be Discotek employees using their skills and equipment for projects that they can't get the rights to.

>> No.8782680

>>8779681
She's basically a female counterpart to the show's Simon Belmont.

>> No.8782687

>>8782260
Nonono, Daisy Dukes are cutoff jeans. they look the same but have to be..

1. Jeans
2. cut off

>> No.8783028

>>8778045
>>8778323
How sad is that the anime film is already getting restored in HD but the fricking DIC tv shows will forever look like fucking crap

>> No.8783035

>>8778045
Why does this show looks so bad, lile what happened to the masters of the animation of the show? I had a vhs of 4 episodes (latino dub) and the colors didnt looked washed out nor the picture is blended.

>> No.8783039
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>>8783028
Western animation is for kids, and thus largely forgotten. Glorious Nippon has a culture of making sure everything gets a remastered DVD or BR release, even obscure shows. There's a market and someone will buy them. Even 70's shows, which have fairly stiff animation look gorgeous in HD.

>> No.8783047

>>8774949
>why is luigi blue?
Well, luigi has never been the most jolly guy

>> No.8783049

>>8783039
Thats not always the case, the japanese really arent all that great when it comes to properly preserving their stuff all the time, and yes, its also a thing of ego and pride and thinkin their system of doing things is the one and only way of doing things, look of what happened to the original film master of Project Akko, if it werent for one american disobeying their dumb laws and looking further then he should, we would have stucked with a Domesday Upscale instead, the fricking film master was mislabaled for crying out loud.

>> No.8783153

>>8780187
Yes. Toru Furuya did Mario's voice on those 2 OVA and a lot of commercials until 1998 for one of those Satellaview games.
https://www.mariowiki.com/Toru_Furuya

>> No.8783172

>>8783049
Well, the film was archived, they just didn't use the right labels so they lost track of it. I imagine there's a similar case with other films where the master is thought lost. The retro anime fans in the west are actually more fanatical and obsessive about many of these old anime than many in Japanese fans are.

>>8783153
I hope these get scanned too.

https://www.mariowiki.com/Amada_Anime_Series:_Super_Mario_Bros..

>> No.8783185

>>8783035
All the releases for these old DiC cartoons were based on Betamax videotape broadcast masters. Basically the thing that NBC or whatever network actually used to air the show. It's not ideal.

>> No.8783193

>>8783049
Dragon Ball Z notoriously has garbage audio because Toei threw out the original. People's VHS recordings of the original Japanese broadcast actually sound better than the Blu-rays.

>> No.8783197

>>8783172
Welp remember, the scan of this film was done using a 16mm copy, probably for retail or a personal collection, not the original camera negative which lord knows where it is.

>> No.8783198

>>8783049
>if it werent for one american disobeying their dumb laws and looking further then he should,

Hint: I'm 90% sure it's the same people behind femboy films. Discotek is their offiicla job, femboy is their secret identity.

>Remastering anime by daylight
>Sissy femboy by moonlight

>> No.8783206

>>8783198
>Remastering anime by daylight
>Sissy femboy by moonlight
Would watch.

>> No.8783215

>>8783185
That does not explain why the colors and the picture got blurry and washed out and so damn purple, i mean, even hasbro shows like the original HORSE SHOW (not bojack) and moondreamers for examole or even some episodes of Insoector Gadget looked so damn red and green and dark currently, i dont think they looked that bad when they first aired, i even had the theory that the Super Mario Brothers super show lookes lile that because they were using bad pal masters turn to NTSC which explains the awful look.

>> No.8783247
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8783247

>>8783028
Their shows being edited on tape instead of film was the explanation I've heard

>> No.8783279

>>8783247
So they won't pay for the additional re-edding it would take? That's cheap man. Pretty sure they could crowd source proper remasters since there's so many manchildren manbabbies out there.

>> No.8783296

>>8783215
It might be the case. I really don't know the nuances of how colors change. When video tape degrades it's not just the colors that change so I don't think age alone can explain it. Maybe it's just the nature of newer televisions. NTSC analog TVs actually have a wider color gamut than modern sRGB.

>> No.8783340

>>8783279
you think you are so fricking funny?

>> No.8783347

>>8783340
*flicks your frenulum*

>> No.8783461

>>8776938
holy cow that looks bad, what about the dragonbox?

>> No.8783470

>>8777248
>Oh god those edge artifacts and weird lines

ESGARN looks pretty bad imo.

>> No.8783567

>>8783470
This >>8776884 is also ESGARN.

>> No.8783605
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8783605

>>8778323
Captain N had underrated waifus.

>> No.8783632
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8783632

>>8783470
>>8783567

Yeah, that was part of my statement in >>8777248 that poorly done ESRGAN upscaling will look shit.

ESRGAN as a technology doesn't have just the one type of output, there are dozens if not hundreds of differently trained models that will produce results appropriate, or inappropriate to the input you give it.

This picture is also an upscale, but with a higher quality input and is a manual composite of two AI upscalers like >>8777347

>> No.8783641

>>8783206
Isn't that just Shezow

>> No.8783716
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8783716

>>8783605
100%

>> No.8783730

>>8783198
>>8783206
Sailor troon lmao

>> No.8783746

>>8774930
>femboy productions
That better be satire, otherwise the "translation" is going to be full of woke dog shit.

>> No.8783794

>>8783035
Shit was made as cheaply and quickly as possible in the first place with every conceivable corner cut. Probably whatever the source was never received proper storage and deteriorated.

>> No.8783938

>>8777220
>one of the reason animation even looked so different back in the 80s compared to today was because you needed to have thick linework and high contrast color gradients in order for the detail to be conveyed at all on shitty 480i TV sets.
Incidentally, this is why I find these older shows more appealing to look at. So many shows today seem to forgo contrast and clean white/black shades.

>> No.8783978

>>8776884
Weird ESL wording that makes it sound like you made that, lol.

>> No.8784036

>>8783746
It's a translation, not a localization

>> No.8784340

>>8783193
seriously? where can i see a source for a original broadcast vhs?

>> No.8784371

>>8784340
Here's a discussion on the topic:
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11296

>> No.8784385

>>8784371
very interesting, thanks

>> No.8784449

>>8783716
>Want to find art of any of the best waifus of all time
>"Zelda" "Lana" "Princess" "cartoon" "Captain N" are all vague enough search terms that you get a million things otherwise
Why are we here... just to suffer?...

>> No.8784596
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8784596

>>8784449
To think that this character was just a transformed state for the Eggplant Wizard that they drew for a throwaway gag.

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8784598

>>8784596

>> No.8784602

>>8784598
He even makes a mental note of which "channel" to keep track of.

>> No.8785490

>>8783605
>>8783716
>>8784596
Still very awful show

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8785506

>>8785490
If you're a nerd who gets upset over the accuracy to the source material it's understandable why you would dislike Captain N, but as its own thing I find Captain N enjoyable as its own thing (certainly better than something like Double Dragon). I kinda wish they had done a second season of the Zelda series using the Captain N designs of Link and Zelda.

>> No.8785517
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8785517

>>8785490
Bullshit.

>> No.8785525

>>8785490
Say why it's awful without "muh accuracy"

>> No.8785529
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8785529

>>8785490
If you're the kind of nerd who gets upset over how accurate to the source material a show is it's understandable why you would dislike Captain N, but as its own thing I find it enjoyable (certainly better than other vidya adaptations like Double Dragon and the overrated Sonic SatAM), aside from the disappointing third season. I kinda wish they had done a second season of the Zelda series using the Captain N designs of Link and Zelda.

>> No.8785537 [DELETED] 

>>8785490
I loved it back then, it was a different time.

>be a kid
>play nintendo
>watch simple colorful cartoon of good vs evil
>eat cereal
>play outside

compared to these days..

>be a kid
>on tablet all day
>telling everybody that they're fags and cucks and pussies who need to touch grass because they're cumbrains
>watch cartoon where the family experiences cucking/porn/beatings/countless insults
>ha ha, fu-nny.
>drinks his special milk that makes him feel more girly
>more tablet action

>> No.8785837

>>8785490
Captain N was kino fuck you.

>> No.8786023

https://youtu.be/fMb4529lAzc?t=165

Kevin pinching that nipple.

>> No.8786170

>>8786023
Do eh, fan edited versions of this exist? because the DVD versions removed the licensed music.

>> No.8786281

>>8786170
Fan edited? Doubt it. But there may be VHS copies floating around somewhere with the music intact. In fact there is an alternate version of How's Bayou missing from the DVD set. The one included is the first airing with animation errors and other quirks that were changed for the reruns. And an entire episode called When Mother Brain Rules, which also had two versions, is missing entirely. Probably because it was a clip show put together by NBC itself rather than DiC which probably didn't have the masters.

>> No.8786442 [DELETED] 

>>8785517
>>8785525
>>8785529
>>8785537
The truth hurt doesn’t it?

>> No.8786449 [DELETED] 

>>8785837
Kys 80 fag, the show is dogshit

>> No.8786584 [DELETED] 

>>8786442
Drink your special milk anon.

>> No.8786785 [DELETED] 

>>8774930
Anime fans that mindlessly consume garbage are more retarded than niggers. Only a manchild would have the desire to "restore" (aka. nuke with filters and half-assed scans that look like a high schooler running a 16mm projector against the wall) a lengthy commercial for a video game.

>> No.8786934

>>8786785
It's more of a lengthy commercial for cup ramen, in this case.

>> No.8787212

>>8786934
How does ramen factor into Mario?

>> No.8787325

>>8787212
It's treated as a power-up in this OVA. It's also Super Mario branded. Yeah.

>> No.8787902

>>8775786
Mallow is an excellent boy

>> No.8787908

>>8786934
>>8787212
>>8787325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLoqe4nkiuc
Neat.

>> No.8790030
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8790030

>>8784449
There's very little fanart of the show period.

>> No.8790094

>>8790030
The thumbnail for this is so disconcerting that the stupid footfag shit was almost a relief to see.

>> No.8790126

>>8774930
>Femboy Films
the faggot hasn't learn the last time, did he?

>> No.8790136

>>8790126
It’s call trap in correct way.

>> No.8790139

>>8785517
>>8785525
>>8785529
>>8785837
The truth hurt doesn’t?

>> No.8790143

>>8790136
stay on topic, faggot.
You saw what happened to Daicon IV remaster, right? It got taken down, before it was out.
Nintendo is going to do the same shit, especially when they admitted to be focusing on animation at the moment.

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8790168

>>8785525
justify this with a straight face
shit's bad box mega man art-tier

>> No.8790185

>>8790168
So "muh accuracy", then.

>> No.8790192

>>8790094
It's almost quaint considering deviantart fetish art.

>> No.8790203

>>8790143
>Daicon IV remaster

what Daicon !V remaster?

>> No.8790218

>>8778628
This is a myth.
The japanese term for green is midori, ao is an old term for turquoise or blue that hasn't been used to mean green for a very long time.

>> No.8790275

>>8790203
the same account (Femboy Films) was working on a daicon IV remaster but got a c&d, they implied gainax or somebody was working on an official remaster but that will never happen

>> No.8790326

>>8790275
So it was a copyright trolling? then why the fuck would they brag on public? why not keep it in secret? remember that Super Mario Bros Super Show fangame that was being made but some faggot snitchers snitch to nintendo and now the guy is restarting a NEW ORIGINAL GAME that of course will NEVER BE FINISHED?

>> No.8790353

>>8790275
>>8790326
Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure nobody owns the rights to this OVA anymore.

>> No.8790378

>>8776725
great bait but you should still kill yourself

>> No.8791668

>>8790185
so no justification then

>> No.8791676

>>8791668
They seem perfectly adequate takes on interpreting the chibi-esque graphics of the NES games they were based on with no other references. You have to remember anime was still barely even a thing and even Capcom USA couldn't figure out what to do with his big anime eyes.

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8791686

>>8790326
>remember that Super Mario Bros Super Show fangame that was being made but some faggot snitchers snitch to nintendo and now the guy is restarting a NEW ORIGINAL GAME that of course will NEVER BE FINISHED?
What the fuck are you talking about? Those are being simultaneously made and he's still working on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QSeIFdqAlA

Imagine creating bullshit just because Shitendo is doing Shitendo things, I doubt they fucking care about DiC kusoge either.

>> No.8791693

>>8791676
but wasn't Capcom doing the Marvel anime and cartoon prior?

>> No.8791703

>>8791686
his Super Show Wario looks so godlike
shame we never got a proper followup to the Gameboy/N64 titles.

>> No.8791723

>>8791693
Capcom doesn't make anime and cartoons.

>> No.8791737

>>8791723
so you never saw the cartoon? they helped with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV_PiKhkzzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rSw4Xl5qfs

>> No.8791747

>>8791737
>the 90s came before the 80s
Settle down there, Merlin. But no, Capcom had nothing to do with those cartoons.

>> No.8792598

>>8775946
>>8775956
old colours were better

>> No.8793052

>>8774930
>Femboy FIlms
>Patreon
Shits never going to come out and they will pretend Nintendo took them down and keep all the money, like clock work

>> No.8794770

>>8791686
Little uncanny

>> No.8795009

>>8776886
these both look completely fine, you people need to go outside

>> No.8795036

>>8780161
why does this give me game grumps animated vibes kek

>> No.8795251

>>8775395
lol