/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8766343]

... Is it good ? ... Is it bad ? We need to discuss this more, much much more. It is more important than you realize.

[Anonymous No.8766347]

>>8766343
It’s an excellent sequel and a classic in its own right. I love it and wish there was more 2D Zelda stuff like it

[Anonymous No.8766354]

>>8766343
It's certainly an acquired taste. I like it as much as the first game now. Zelda 2 becomes fun as hell when you understand how the combat works. And Hyrule actually feels like a kingdom now, like there are towns with people you can talk to. Also amazing atmosphere for an 80s game. Overall it's no less of a classic than Zelda 1 and A Link to the Past

[Anonymous No.8766374]

Conceptually, I like it. I am ambivalent towards playing it.

[Anonymous No.8766417]

haven't played it much, but it seems like a perfectly good game...just nothing like the original zelda, or really much like anything that came after it.

play the disk version with a fixed translation romhack, if there is one. that's probably the best thing to do.

[Anonymous No.8766423]

>>8766417
>play the disk version
Yeah I prefer the disk version too because it's easier

[Anonymous No.8766425]

>>8766417
> that's probably the best thing to do.

It's like a beta version in comparison though...

[Anonymous No.8766667]

It's awesome. Kinda surprised they've never tried remaking it even once, not that it needs it though.

[Anonymous No.8766669]

I saw sprites from it on Newgrounds as a kid and thought Link's sword was his penis in his hand.

[Anonymous No.8766671]

>>8766343
best thing about it is that sword illustration on the cover

[Anonymous No.8766674]

>>8766343
its good! impossible to complete by today standards and short attention spans (mine included).

a lot of great thing were first seen here, so much that OoT borrows many of them, like hyrule field monsters not appearing if you stay on the roads

[Anonymous No.8766679]

>>8766674
>hyrule field monsters not appearing if you stay on the roads
wtf i didn't know about this

[Anonymous No.8766715]

>>8766667
Zelda games don't get remade often. There are only 3 remakes: OoT, MM and LA. As much as I love Zelda 2 I think it's literally the last /vr/ Zelda they'd consider remaking. People are crazy about Oracles and Minish Cap

[Anonymous No.8766735]

>>8766343
It's obviously good and a standout, unique title for its time and all time. There's no debate about that. There are a few shitty things about it though:
>ugly-ass overworld tiles
>lives
>some of the overworld mazes suck dick
>knights seem like awesome opponents til you learn the genius strategy of jump stabbing
>progression is a little hard to intuit at times

[Anonymous No.8766742]

>>8766425
True, but the FDS version has some truly soulful wavetable sound effects.

[Anonymous No.8766748]

Play the Amada's Curse hack. Top tier.

[Anonymous No.8766890]

I loved every aspect of it but I don't think it's something I can enjoy on a second replay, mainly because I already saw everything it had to offer. Maybe after a couple years when I've forgotten about it... I have a list of some Zelda 2 likes from some other threads and am considering trying them out soon.

[Anonymous No.8766910]

Honestly I'd recommend a Redux hack just for cutting down on the amount of exp needed for everything. Zelda II gets good when you're actually able to weave through enemies like a badass.

[Anonymous No.8766950]

>>8766343
>>8757956

[Anonymous No.8767306]

>>8766343
yeah it's good but I like any game that has both top down and 2d levels

[Anonymous No.8767325]

>>8766735
>>knights seem like awesome opponents til you learn the genius strategy of jump stabbing
Thank Christ, sparring with every single one of them would be a nightmare.

[Anonymous No.8767352]

The problem with Zelda 2 is that it's too punishing. Enemies hit hard right from the start and unlike in other Zelda games they don't drop hearts. Yes, you have the shield and heal magic, but even magical energy depletes fast, and then you're stuck farming magic refills from blobs and other shitty respawning enemies unless you want to go back to town. Much of the tedium would be cut down by simply bringing back hearts drops, or at least giving every kind of enemies magic drops.

[Anonymous No.8767368]

>>8766343
It's hands down the best 2D Zelda

[Anonymous No.8767404]

>>8767352
>and then you're stuck farming magic refills from blobs and other shitty respawning enemies

I never even considered doing that, or developed any awareness that it could be done, when I repeatedly played through this game as a kid. It's not tedious if, like a child, you refrain from taking unnecessary damage all the time.

[Anonymous No.8767423]

>>8766343
on GBA?
good
On anything else
whew lad.

[Anonymous No.8767434]

>>8766715
WW and TP both got remakes on the Wii U. SS was remade on the switch.

[Anonymous No.8767451]

>>8767404
You are going to take damage regardless of how careful you are, especially the first times playing. So you either Game Over and trek all the way back from the castle or you farm blobs.

But now I'm sure you're gonna claim that as a child you beat the game with no continues and 0 damage the first time you played.

[Anonymous No.8767491]

>>8767451

Well no you can use red flasks from statues, ladies in towns, fairies on the field, fairies in dungeons, and occasional unplanned blue flasks dropped by enemies. Also you can refill your resources by dying, as long as you don't do it too many times per cave/palace. I died plenty as a kid - just not enough to make it tedious. Cos I had got gud, it seems. I dunno. I think it's a good game. Zelda 2 is it good? I think it's good

[Anonymous No.8767505]

>>8767434
those were remasters

[Anonymous No.8768609]

Zelda 2 matters a lot and needs our talk always.

I like that there are at least two different races of reptile-person in the game. The bird-people, too, seem to be fairly smart. Could they have secret bird-people and reptile-people towns somewhere? Link should be able to find one and learn some kind of rock-throwing technique there.

[Anonymous No.8768628]

>>8766347
>>8766354
>>8767368

[Anonymous No.8768669]

>>8766343
It is the best Zelda game

[Anonymous No.8768862]

>>8767423
>cropped + squished + shitty sound quality + blurry LCD
Explain how your post isn't bait right now.

[Anonymous No.8768942]

>>8766735
>lives
>bad
sorry pal, but git gud

[Anonymous No.8769009]

>>8766347
If you are a lover of Zelda II you should check out Phoenotopia Awakening. It's what Zelda 2 would be if Nintendo had kept going like with A Link to the Past, Nintendo hard too if you don't mess with the difficulty slider they patched in because of complaints.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPOQgQ29gj4

[Anonymous No.8769047]

>>8769009
it's okay, but I honestly kinda think the original flash version was better; a lot of the stuff they added feels extraneous to me and like it exists solely to justify the remake. I just wish that instead of a full remake they'd made a sequel that incorporated a streamlined recap of the first game as the first chapter.

[Anonymous No.8769235]

It's funny how people paint it as a black sheep when it set a lot of precedents for later entries.

>Side-scrolling re-used in the GBC games
>Villages & towns
>Magic system
>Actual sword & shield combat
>Downwards thrust (now an iconic smash bros move)
>Dark Link
>Larger 'Hyrule Field' hub instead of moving from screen to screen
>The town names were transferred to Ocarina characters

[Anonymous No.8769238]

Essential /vr/ game. It's still Zelda, but before LttP cemented the formula which future games all subscribed to.

[Anonymous No.8769309]

>>8769235
>>Villages & towns
Nigga those would inevitably appear even if Zelda 2 never existed

[Anonymous No.8770170]

>>8768942
nah. its not even enjoyable when you have to repeat everything a million times. I love zelda but this game was made by retards

[Anonymous No.8770190]

>>8767505
So was OOT really, they didn't change much about the game other than removing lots of bugs/glitches and increasing the polygon count.

Really, the closest thing we've gotten to a "remake" in the Zelda franchise was MM on 3DS, because they actually changed a LOT about the game, whereas the other "remakes" were just graphical updates with very minor changes.

[Anonymous No.8770210]

>>8770170
OoT for 3DS was made from scratch, they recreated the game. Like Shadow of the Colossus on PS4. Even though it's basically identical in terms of gameplay it's still a remake

[Anonymous No.8770217]

>>8770210
oops meant for>>8770190

[Anonymous No.8770242]

>>8768862
<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/b05923f5_monkaW.png">
portability is nice.
the sound was never great and the graphics were never great. the LCD for the 101 is fine. and I can say without trolling it does look better. not blurry at least to me
>wasnt trolling

[Anonymous No.8770261]

>>8768862
He grew up with the GBA version. I'm saying this as someone who played SMW and Yoshi's Island on GBA first and have personal attachment to these ports

[Anonymous No.8770502]

>>8770242
God, you're a stupid kid. Your snot nosed zoompilled opinions sicken me. You can play it uncompromised on other portable machines.
>>8770261
I want a draft so much it's unreal.

[Anonymous No.8770525]

>>8770210
>OoT for 3DS was made from scratch, they recreated the game
There's no way that's true

[Anonymous No.8770535]

>>8766343
It sucks, but /vr/ pretends it's good for some reason probably because the popular opinions is that it sucks.

[Anonymous No.8770541]

>>8766343
What's with the word salad OP?

[Anonymous No.8770560]

>>8770502
>kid
lol k - but yeah I guess you can emu the shit on anything portable, more saying playing it at home > than playing it on NES with tv ( my main and only point honestly)
>>8770261
and nah. deff in my 30s<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/7081142e_goldface.png">

[Anonymous No.8771159]

>>8766679
i think the nature of 3D exploring allowing you to easily disregard the road and the fact that the monsters only appear at night kept this hidden for almost everybody

if you look into the cut content, a LOT of zelda 2 ideas were there, like the many cities overworld structure and different magic uses

[Anonymous No.8771393]

>>8766347
I like the idea of a top down game switching to 2D for fighting stages but Zelda 2 isn't as fun as the first one or later games.

[Anonymous No.8771515]

>>8766343
If the game was easier and more straightforward it would be hailed as a classic and amazing followup to Zelda 2

The gameplay, graphics, music are all amazing. It just gets mired by being too hard and opaque

[Anonymous No.8771519]

>>8771515
fair assessment

[Anonymous No.8771525]

>>8770535
>direction-brain can only form one-dimensional opinions

[Anonymous No.8771529]

>>8770502
why so angry

[Anonymous No.8771591]

>>8771529
Where are you people coming from? Is this part of the april fools joke?

[Anonymous No.8771751]

>>8770541

OP was remixing my important posts from the previous important Zelda 2 thread. It's not clear why. Still, and regardless, Zelda 2 really is a very important game for us to think and talk about again. Let's never never stop.

[Anonymous No.8772604]

Are the bird soldiers the same race as the Rito from WW and BotW? What about the Thunderbird? Is he just a reference from Miyamoto's favourite puppet show or is there more?

[Anonymous No.8772872]

>>8772604
Oh maybe actually. It's weird that I never gave it much thought

[Anonymous No.8773125]

GBA version is just a compressed ROM embedded in an emulator, tho.

[Anonymous No.8773136]

>>8766423
Is it? Don’t your levels reset to a lower number if you game over?

[Anonymous No.8773421]

>>8766343
Unironically one of the best games on the system.

[Anonymous No.8773438]

>>8770525
OoT3D ripped the code straight from the GameCube port and only made changes where necessary, deciding to leave most of the glitches alone.

[Anonymous No.8775265]

Zelda 2 good Zelda 2 bad???