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Opinions on this thing? I want get a controller to play SNES/Genesis with Retroarch. Are there better alternatives?

>> No.8760995

>>8760976
>to play SNES/Genesis
Then what do you need the analogs for? Especially since using them without the handles is very uncomfortable. Aside from that i find it's a good pad.

>> No.8761031

Literally every dualshock is better than that thing. Only some nintendo-worshipping weirdo would want that abomination.

>> No.8761032

>>8760995
>Then what do you need the analogs for?
You're right, they're pretty much worthless for what i want. I already have a ps4 controller if i want to play other stuff.
>Aside from that i find it's a good pad
Nice, thank you.

>> No.8761034

It's pretty good, especially if you can get it for under $50. I found the analog sticks surprisingly comfortable to use, personally. The dpad isn't the greatest but certainly not the worst by any stretch.
I found that the dpad was fine for platformers, racing games and RPGs but not ideal for 2D fighting games, so it'll probably suit you just fine.
I mostly use mine with my Switch, and it's survived being thrown in a backpack and going around the country with me several times.

>> No.8761035
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8761035

>>8761032
B..But it feels le wrong to play snes with a dualshock

>> No.8761039

>>8761035
Oops, meant for >>8761031

>> No.8761040

Get the pro version. The dpad on the non-pro one is pretty bad

>> No.8761065

>>8761040
Thanks, that's what i'm most concerned about. I want to play stuff like DKC and Megaman X so i need the d-pad to feel good.

>> No.8761072

>>8760976
just get a ps2 controller

>> No.8761081

>>8760976
DualSense. Same price, better comfort but much less latency.

>> No.8761119

>>8761081
The DualSense is like $20 to $30 more than this thing or the Pro version

>> No.8761529

>>8760976
>Are there better alternatives?
Yes, The official Nintendo Bluetooth snes and genesis controllers.

>> No.8761539

I've been using this on my switch for anything but /vr/. I got f710 for retro things. I'm not a big fan of bluetooth controllers on pc.

>> No.8761560

>>8761119
Both can be had for 45~50€ here.

>> No.8761681

>>8760976
Why would you need 2 analogs on a snes controller?

>> No.8761683

SN30 Pro + or Pro 2 are better.

>> No.8761703

> I want get a controller to play SNES/Genesis with Retroarch. Are there better alternatives?

Yeah, using actual SNES/Genesis pads.

>> No.8761728

>>8760976
I KNEEL

My favorite design ever until now

>> No.8761748

>>8760976
I have one, used the shit out of it. Now it won't charge or even do anything if you plug it into a console or computer.

>> No.8761758

>>8761748
standard aa batteries are also a nice to have for a wireless controller t. >>8761539

>> No.8761761
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8761761

>>8760976
Give me one reason why I should use this instead of just picrel?

>> No.8761768

I have the wired one and it's fine, but I always preferred using a Dualshock 4 if you can find one at a reasonable price

>> No.8761818

>>8761761
A dpad that's in the right place and isn't shit.

>> No.8761821

>>8761818
The placement is still bad but Xbox one and Series controllers actually have a nice dpad

>> No.8761865

>>8761681
for turbo shortcuts obviously

>> No.8761868

>>8761821
I like the rubber dome ones better. Clicky ones are precise but somehow they just don't feel right.

>> No.8761967

>>8761683
Yeah, but they're all made after Nintendo got after them for legal issues so none of those controllers are as perfectly on-model to an snes controller as that one is.

>> No.8762101

>>8760976
Thats the best controller for modern gaming. For retro i use their m30.

>> No.8762107

>>8761031
Thats complete sonygger bullshit. Ignore him.

>> No.8762183
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>>8761681
>right stick
emulates dpad
>R3
savestate
>left stick left
rewind
>left stick right
fast-forward
>left stick down
slow down
>L3
loadstate

>> No.8762306

>>8760976
>8bitdo
Why janny allows this shilling is ridiculous.

>> No.8762309

>>8762183
>savestates
>slowdown
>rewind
why do you bother """playing""" retro games if you don't actually like them?

>> No.8762327

>>8762309
I only use them on games I've played so I can get to the parts I like faster.

>> No.8762339

>>8762327
>I only rape so I can skip dating and get to the parts I like faster

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8762340

>>8762339
Yes.

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https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/9mPK29SJjqd44kY_u2I0bA/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/L1zTCHaD_DT4zSOMs0HXoQ/
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8762462

>>8760976
Needs more buttons... Can they make an analogue version of this?

>> No.8762521

>>8760976
I have one, the shoulder buttons are really thin due to them being stacked. What you can do is just buy the official Nintendo switch controllers that look like snes and genesis. Sync it to your computer and they work like normal.

>> No.8762593

>>8762462
Do those calculator buttons even get recognized as different inputs on emulators?

>> No.8762596

>>8762593
yeah, some emudevs use it to phone the suicide hotline

>> No.8762597

>>8762368
what's your point?

>> No.8762601

>>8762368
So dpad sucks, i wonder if the jannies and mods have any association with 8bitdoodoo

>> No.8762617

>>8760976
Got a Pro 2 recently and it's been great for emulation and I played through Elden Ring with it.
>Great Dpad for 2D shit
>Analog triggers for GCN
>Motion for 3DS, Wii U and Switch
>No need for extra software like DS4Windows or BetterJoyForCemu
Nothing to complain about other than that it needs to be in Switch mode for motion but that's because of Xinput not supporting motion.

>> No.8762724
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8762724

>>8762306
>shilling
I just want a good controller to play snes that imitates the real deal. Do you have a better alternative?

>> No.8762901
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>>8762724
Try a Retroflag's.
They're about 17 - 20 shekels and close to the real deal, I feel. Downside is they're a bit finicky to set up on Switch. They're D-input by default and if you turn off your Switch, you have to set the controller it to X-input each time you turn it back on and sometimes it won't pick up the controller right away.

Also from a lite-lurker's perspective, 8-bitdo gets marketed on here semi-often, ironic or otherwise. They have at pretty dominant presence in the retro market now with how many posters come here (and on /v/) mentioning it over lesser known brands.

Some anon's have expressed how shoddy they can be when it comes to the quality vs. the price while others have said "Works on my machine".
I've even heard some of the woes first hand from a streamer that has one and would regularly run into problems with it from time to time using it on PC.

TL;DR Your mileage may vary, but signs point to "It's shit"

>> No.8763050

>>8761065
Dude if you want a good Dpad go with their M30. It's my go to for anything 2D.

>> No.8763293
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8763293

Still waiting for when RetroBit finally fucking releases pic related

>> No.8763343

>>8762901
They've been hit and miss for a lot of people, I'm wondering if it's quality control. My first 8bitdo a few years back was a piece of fucking shit and I returned it quickly. My Xbox controller started to fuck up recently and I got a Pro 2 as I didn't want the hassle of using DS4WIndows for motion input and I've quickly fallen in love with the thing. It's early days though, so not sure how the mileage will be.

>> No.8763416

>>8763293
Its probably too expensive to manufacture. When you look at their previous controllers they are all bottom barrel chink shit.

>> No.8763434

>>8761119
Yes and the DualSense is also not a complete piece of shit you dumb poorfag

>> No.8763452

>>8763434
I don't really care for it myself but whatever floats your boat. I don't see the point in paying the extra money for the haptics that my PC can't use, personally

>> No.8763474

>>8760976
Idk the one I got was incompatible with my phone so I just gave it away

>> No.8763525

>>8763452
You're not paying extra money for haptics you dumbfuck. You're paying for much better build quality, much better ergonomics, much better analog sticks, a much better d-pad, much better triggers, better buttons, way more input options + gyro/swipe, and much lower input lag.

8bitdo is cheap junk. But you are a poorfag moron who would buy cheap junk to save a measly $20 on a controller meant to last you for years so there is no reasoning with you. Do your shopping at the dollar store and buy whatever shit they have there you stupid fuck

>> No.8763535

>>8763525
You are horribly unpleasant and really weird

>> No.8763538

>>8763535
You're a braindead fucking subhuman retard. There is no discussion to be had.

>> No.8763539

>>8763538
Then why are you talking to me?

>> No.8763603

>>8763293
we've been wait for what like 5 years at this point?

>> No.8763651

>>8760976
that one chinese ripoff usb snes controller, the ibuffalo, actually has the lowest input lag out of all the controllers tested by some guy on the mister forum (I think).

>> No.8764858

>>8763293
>retrobit
same trash as 8bitdo

>> No.8764864

>>8763293
Never happening. This controller has never existed for any system, why you need it to exist now is beyond me. If you REALLY need six face buttons you would've bought an arcade stick by now and used a modern PS/Xbox controller for everything else.

>> No.8764887

>>8760976
>D-pad and buttons offset from center
Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.8764915

>>8762107
No, he's right. The dualshock is complete and total ass, but that pad is somehow even worse.

>> No.8764968

>>8760976
not that one, shitty D-Pad
the pro2 is better

>> No.8764992

>>8760976
I have the pro plus and pro of this remote. The pro plus d pad is alot better. The original pros d pad is EXTREMELY stiff. It makes playing top down style games or beat em ups with it hard. Somehow though this stiffness translates well to 2d ONLY games like megaman really well. I just use the pro remote for psp dreamcast etc and the pro plus for snes neo geo genesis

>> No.8764994
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8764994

>>8764992
>remote

>> No.8765000

>>8764994
I also only bought the pro remote cause it was 20 USD >>8764992

And literally the last one in the store. I shoulda just bought the PS2 style one PRO 2 remote

>> No.8765109

>>8763525
Is this poster an example of the "Snoys" I've heard so much about?

>> No.8765182

>>8763651
lol ironic and cool

>> No.8766746

>>8760976
>Opinions on this thing?
Better options exist for the money.
Those iBuffalo pads blow these things out of the fucking water for SNES.
For the same $50, you can get an iBuffalo SNES pad on eBay (I don't think they sell them new) and a Saturn USB controller (retro-bit made them, I think). Or even Raphnet adapters for the controllers you already own.

Even if you're looking for an all-purpose controller, these get outclassed by the newer Xbone controllers, which ALSO cost $50 and have much higher build-quality along with an improved d-pad design, negating the most common complaint regarding 8bitdo.

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8766802

Didn't want to make a new thread, but opinions on this? I'll be using it on original hardware, not an FPGA, if that matters.

>> No.8766847

>>8766802
If you're playing on original hardware and a CRT you probably don't want to introduce extra input lag from a wireless controller in games not designed with that much input lag in mind.

>> No.8766854

>>8765109
I believe you are correct.

>> No.8766882

>>8766847
From what I've read online it's about 5ms of lag for the 2.4ghz version which is nothing considering human reaction time is about 200ms. My biggest concern is the diagonal inputs being finicky.

>> No.8768075

>>8766802
bump for any more opinions on this

>> No.8768085

Get a DS4. Low input delay, great dpad, good layout for retro games

Only downside is the shit battery. But seriously there's almost no reason to buy an 8bitdo pad over a ds4

>> No.8768420

>>8761031
You're a fucking moron if you think any PlayStation dpad is even comparable.

>> No.8768553

>>8763539
Not him but educating idiot is the solution so you should always try reasoning with them.

>> No.8768583

>>8768553
Is it really educating if we're talking about something as subjective as video game controller preference? My purchase was mostly informed by the controller's compatibility with the Switch, for what it's worth

>> No.8768656

>>8760976
Nintendo should have released a Classic Controller that plugged into the Gamecube port

>> No.8768672

>>8761865
>>8762183
So, cheating. Have you tried mustering up the patience to become competent at playing a game before?

>> No.8768696

>>8760976
I used it to play brawl along with a usb gamecube switch controller. There was no difference in my gameplay.

>> No.8768773

>>8768420
PS D-pad are vastly superior, yes.