/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8757714]

>If everything could ever feel this real forever
>If anything could ever be this good again

[Anonymous No.8758020]

>>8757714
Did this shit ever actually do anything? It was an LED change from what I can tell. I started building PCs around Pentium 66 when RAM went to blade instead of SIP and the techs on the bench teaching me were laughing about that "turbo" button ...

[Anonymous No.8758065]

>>8758020
>The TURBO button makes your computer run slower.
In reality it was a slowdown button which usually cut your clockspeed in half, it was supposed to be for older IBM PC programs that had problems at higher clock speeds than what they were written for. Because bad practices like hard timing loops could make menus time out, or your games extra zippy.

[Anonymous No.8758127]

>>8758020
>>8758065
Hardware button to slow down your CPU for old crap games programmed to squeeze performance out of 8088 4.77 mhz processors by not using cycles properly. The software alternative was moslo.
Then you have weird cases like Origin games from the early 90s (eg Wing Commander) that are made to be blazing fast on a 286 or.. slower 386? Who knows what the intended speed for those is.

[Anonymous No.8758218]

>>8758065
>>8758127
Fascinating, did it work on Pentium class? I swear we set jumpers on the MHZ LED display and it was just whatever you set it; I could set a 66 to read 133 or whatever ... There was only a power connection to the display and not any bus connection.
was there a bus connection or something on the old 3/486 "turbo" button? how did that work?

[Anonymous No.8758551]

>>8758020
What an embarrassing larp

[Anonymous No.8758570]

>8758551
No (you) for niggers.

[Anonymous No.8758728]

>>8758065
>bad practices
They were written for a single platform, the IBM PC, which had a fixed clock speed. How were the devs supposed to know that architecture would go on in perpetuity?

[Anonymous No.8758747]

>>8758218
the MHz display was coded with jumpers, pressing the button and depressing it could display two speeds that you chose. however, the display was wired to go to the motherboard as a passthrough and trigger the TURBO/normal speeds which as >>8758065 said was a way to slow your computer for compatibility reasons. most people (usually ones without the MHz display) thought TURBO made the computer run FASTER, which it didn't unless deactivated (normal state). this was usually enabled in 286, 386, and 486 motherboards. I am not aware of many, if any, Pentium class motherboards that supported the turbo function. you could achieve similar results, though, by disabling external cache in the BIOS.

[Anonymous No.8758768]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_button

I remember my PC didn't have it, but I was pretty jealous of my friends who did.

I remember Dune 2, Carmageddon but none to many other games off the top of my head that we used to play on his computer. Those were the days though.

There may have been no internet, but borrowing a friends and learning COPY A:\*.* would start my journey on the seven seas

[Anonymous No.8758819]

>>8757714
>Engaging turbofaggotry!

[Anonymous No.8758835]

>>8758747
Most likely, my memories are building PCs with the MHz indicator/turbo button using old chassis.

[Anonymous No.8758845]

>>8757714
Imagine shamelessly cashing in on your talented friend's suicide, and people actually love you for it. Then, just in case, you cover it up by saying it's about a divorce you had when obviously that's not what the listeners are going to be thinking about. Krist Novoselic was the only good friend in that band.

[Anonymous No.8758983]

>>8758747
>>8758835
Yeah, no turbo function on Pentiums. We were just using old cases.

[Anonymous No.8759069]

>>8758845
>talented
Eh, let's be real. They were known for their image and attitude, not their musical aptitude. Dave's more talented, but SOULLESS

[Anonymous No.8759078]

>>8758845
>>8759069
what the fuck are you guys talking about

[Anonymous No.8759269]

>>8758020
>Did this shit ever actually do anything?
Of course they did. The switch connected to the motherboard and what effect it had was often configurable in the BIOS

[Anonymous No.8759286]

>>8758020
>Did this shit ever actually do anything?
However the speed display wasn't a frequency counter. There were jumpers on that back to set it to show appropriate numbers. That's why you needed to verify the CPU when buying a used system.

[Anonymous No.8759302]

>>8759286
Well, that's kind of what I was curious about. So the old salts that showed me the ropes showed me how to set the jumpers -- say for a P66 -- but it was quite clear to me that it was nonsense or, rather, arbitrary.... shit I can dial that thing to 233 and it don't make it so ... Anyway, this has been a learning experience; I never knew about the 1/2 clock GPIO (turbo) etc ...

[Anonymous No.8759369]

>>8758065
Keep in mind this was the 80's, a time when every new computer was basically a whole new architecture and backwards compatibility was hardly a thing. When you wrote a program, you wrote it for that specific platform and architecture, and maybe later on you might port it to another one. The IBM PC was but one of many computers at this time, and no one expected the platform to become this thing where every couple of years a new version came out with hardware that iterated on the earlier stuff, making it technically able to run older software.

[Anonymous No.8759407]

>8758570
That's ok little man. Your embarrassing larp is all the entertainment the board needs.

[Anonymous No.8759430]

>8759407
The board can make fun of me all day long. I'm here. I ain't perfect. I don't give a fuck and I'm too old to care. Have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.8759445]

>>8758728
>>8759369
They were still doing it when the 80386 was out. By that time it looked like the clones were here to stay.
They might give enough margin of error for for, say, a theoretical 50mhz computer but of course technology just zoomed right past that.
>>8758983
My Pentium (Intel Advanced/EV) mobo supported a turbo LED, but had no turbo button jumper. Instead you could hit <CTRL><ALT><-> to slow down to 25mhz and <CTRL><ALT><+> to bring it back to full speed.

[Anonymous No.8759549]

>Call it turbo
>does literally the exact opposite
who was the genius that came up with that

[Anonymous No.8759571]

>>8757714
It wasnt the tech

it was the freedom and before Americas culture went to crap

[Anonymous No.8759583]

>>8759549
I think it's supposed to be "on" by default and pushing it makes it go into slow mode. Unless you have a backwards turbo button made by retards.

[Anonymous No.8759612]

>>8758020
Retard

[Anonymous No.8759615]

>>8759549
Because nobody would buy a computer with a "SLOW" button, kek.

[Anonymous No.8759616]

>>8759583
When you push a button, something is supposed to turn on.
Having the button be labeled turbo but actually make your computer slower is retarded and backwards.
It should be called throttle or choke then.

[Anonymous No.8759643]

>>8759616
Right but
>>8759615
Truth. No bullshit.

[Anonymous No.8759673]

>>8759616
I'm looking these up on youtube and they seem to have a light or other indicator that you turned something off when you pushed the button.
I assume how the turbo thing works is the computer is shipped with the turbo switched on, dumbass kid sees the button and thinks it will activate his computer's TURBO POWER, he hits it and it makes the computer slow and shitty. 30 years later he posts this half-remembered story on the internet claiming that turbo does the opposite of what it says. Not helping things is the fact that it's a niche feature because nobody cares about 1983 dos games, but it's prominently placed right near the power button.

[Anonymous No.8759706]

>>8759616
Turbo lag.

[Anonymous No.8759824]

>>8757714
>>8758065
I had a 286-12 and the turbo button when toggled on put it at the 12MHz, but without turbo was 8MHz. It was useful for the games I copied from my cousin's 8086 Tandy 1000SL. When my 286-12 was upgraded to a 386DX-40, I remember taking a bit to make the display to 40, but didn't bother to make it display 8 when un-toggled even though it was running at 8MHz when not toggled. It seems like everyone else says that the Turbo button made the system run slower, but that was not the case for me.

[Anonymous No.8759829]

>8759430
Dude. You're a 12yo larper.

[Anonymous No.8759873]

>>8759829
I'm dropping a (you) because, why, exactly do (you) think that? Do tell.

[Anonymous No.8760437]

>>8758768
Yup. Simpler times.

[Anonymous No.8760585]

>>8759302
>shit I can dial that thing to 233 and it don't make it so
You could overclock some Pentium CPUs just by moving the jumpers on the motherboards. Going from 75 to 100 was commonly done if I remember correctly.

[Anonymous No.8761493]

>>8759078
The odor of adolescent resolve.