Final Fantasy VII

[Anonymous No.8757712]

In your opinion, does this game hold up?

[Anonymous No.8757716]

no

[Anonymous No.8757721]

Yes.

[Anonymous No.8757725]

Yeah. It's still real good

[Anonymous No.8757726]

Nah.

[Anonymous No.8757729]

i feel like the materia system holds up a hell of a lot better than most of the other systems FF did since
ill never understand why they ditched it for retarded shit like GF junctioning, or boring shit like the fucking sphere grid

[Anonymous No.8757761]

Yes, it does. Could it be improved? Of course, but even without any changes, it's a pretty decent game.

[Anonymous No.8757764]

>>8757712

[Anonymous No.8757769]

>>8757712
Yes, and zoomers only say otherwise because they can't handle turn bsaed combat

[Anonymous No.8757850]

>>8757712
It's timeless

[Anonymous No.8757860]

>>8757712
jarpigs are shit

[Anonymous No.8757873]

It's still a jarpig.

[Anonymous No.8757904]

I replay it every 2 years. Gives me incredible nostalgia feels every time.

[Anonymous No.8757959]

>>8757860
>vid
yea being retarded must fucking suck
my condolences

[Anonymous No.8757967]

>>8757860
why does the limit bar goes up on the end without a hit?

[Anonymous No.8757973]

>>8757860
Jarpigs - put some effort into the game design!
Warpigs - put some effort into the presentation!

[Anonymous No.8757984]

>>8757712
Played it for the first time ever last year and liked it, so yes.

[Anonymous No.8757986]

>>8757967
?
It goes up every time Rufus hits

[Anonymous No.8757987]

>>8757904
wow, I always treasured that single screen in my mind for years too. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.8758004]

>>8757967
the game essentially forces a limit break on you since that battle is more or less a cutscene
youre supposed to actually use magic tho, so it came in real late

[Anonymous No.8758021]

It's an audiovisual masterpiece, the battles are fun, and I have a mancrush on Cloud.

[Anonymous No.8758027]

>>8757986
it moves on its own without any hits in the end.

>>8758004
going to test that

[Anonymous No.8758029]

>>8757712
As a game, yeah, as a Final Fantasy game, or JRPG in general, no. It has basically no depth to speak of and its difficulty is pretty trivial.

[Anonymous No.8758073]

>>8758029
so it's a jrpg

[Anonymous No.8758095]

>>8758021
cool artwork.

[Anonymous No.8758112]

>>8758073
That's almost entirely an FF problem.

[Anonymous No.8758114]

>>8757712
Mostly, yes. Although personally I don’t think I would ever have the patience to play through the original PS1 version again. Having the built-in cheats on PS4 allowing you to turn off random encounters and speed up the battles is the only way I can get through those older FF games now.

[Anonymous No.8758128]

>>8757712
I played the game for the very first time back in 2013. It took me a little bit to adjust, but after the infiltration/escape from Shinra tower I was hooked 100%. Absolutely deserving of praise and overall one of my favorites from the PSX era.

[Anonymous No.8758147]

>>8758114
Really? Battles frequency isn’t overwhelming at all, they don’t take very long, and there’s 0 grinding required.

[Anonymous No.8758152]

>>8758027
Rufus shoots five times. It moves up five times.

[Anonymous No.8758169]

>>8757967
>why does the limit bar goes up on the end without a hit?
There was a hit. There was just a delay updating the display. You see the hit land at 0:20 and the limit bar doesn't change until 3 seconds later.

[Anonymous No.8758187]

>>8758147
I don’t turn them off for the whole game, just places where they can get tedious like the overworld and some dungeons. The real godsend in the PS4 port is running battles at 3X speed. No way in hell I’d have the patience nowadays to sit through all those lengthy summons.

[Anonymous No.8758193]

>>8757987
Walking through the Corel mountains is one of my favourite parts of the game just for the music and nice scenery

[Anonymous No.8758194]

>>8757712
Is modding the steam version of this game the best way to play it? Will there be a de-compiled source code like M64 and Zelda OOT?

[Anonymous No.8758204]

>>8758147
Not the person you were replying to, but I agree with you. As a kid I just played through with very minimal grinding. My final party was Cloud lvl 60, Vincent lvl 57, and Yuffie lvl 52. Completed the game fine. Final hit on Sephiroth was Vincent in limit break (uncontrollable) with everyone else dead and Vincent had around 100HP. I got lucky there. Haha

[Anonymous No.8758210]

>>8757769
ATB is an abortion

[Anonymous No.8758215]

>>8757712
I've had the remake on my computer for five months and I haven't even opened it yet. Nostalgia for the original is keeping me from wanting to try the Remake as I know they changed the story.

Does it hold up? I can play through it and enjoy the experience but in all honesty if I knew nothing about the story and played it today I'd probably think it was edgy nonsensical garbage, in fact I'd say that of the next two games too 8, 9

[Anonymous No.8758225]

>>8758215
Same boat here. It was a PS+ game and I have it installed but never actually started it.

[Anonymous No.8758252]

>>8758152
>>8758169
guess one is always learning

[Anonymous No.8758286]

The mere concept of "holding up" is presenting the question under the wrong angle.
It implies that the general quality of games being released since then has continually increased.

Since that is a questionnable concept, so is the concept of "holding up".

[Anonymous No.8758338]

>>8757712
only disc 1 and disc 2

[Anonymous No.8758443]

>>8757712
yeah, it really comes down to the pacing. The game reinvents the premise every 15-30 minutes and it stays consistently great from beginning to end. I don't think there's a single moment in the game anyone can point as bad.

[Anonymous No.8758501]

>>8757712
I love FF7 to death still. From 9 to 30, I think the game holds up solidly still.
As I'm older though, I kind of wish we ended up getting better overworld models, but there is a certain charm to the low poly look.

[Anonymous No.8758853]

>>8758215
It’s fun. The original is my favorite game of all time. They’re going for something different and it’s more of a sequel than a remake. Just be open minded and you’ll likely enjoy it. Remember, the original didn’t magically delete itself from existence when the remake came out, you can still play it, and you’re allowed to enjoy both. I still think the original is better in every way though.

[Anonymous No.8758874]

>>8757850
Fuck OFF, /tv/ Zoomer. Also your edit sucks.

[Anonymous No.8758892]

>8757712
compared to the shitty remake, yes. it hold up like gangbusters
but it didn't age as well as other 90s square vidya like ff6, fft, or ct

[Anonymous No.8758923]

I think it does for the most part.
I agree with >>8758114 that being able to speed up the animations for some things really helps, especially Beta/Trine blue magic which is incredibly useful but really, really lengthy in animation.
The game pretends to be real time with it's ATB but the animations pretty much make it turn based still.

[Anonymous No.8761123]

>>8757712
I love it, just wish it had FF8 graphics.

[Anonymous No.8762231]

Yes and I'm sick of edgelords focusing their energy on shitting on it. Materia >>> anything else that came before or after. Pacing is good. Music is 10/10. Graphics are shit but charming. And the best part? The story. Because it's ultimately about the characters and it's relatable. Every 4channel sperg should appreciate it. Life is terrible? Invent a new one in your head and start to LARP it and believe it, and one day your illusion comes crashing down.
>Badass class A soldier? Nah a faggot grunt who couldn't hack it and gets motion sickness in a truck.
>Giant tiddy childhood gf? Nah she thought you were a faggot and wanted nothing to do with you until you mysteriously reappeared.
>Cool 0 fucks given mercenary? Nah that was your buddy, you were stuck in a tube for 5 years.
And at the end of the day, he sucks it up and fights and wins. MC isn't special and wasn't born from some warrior family or ancient clan or race, just a fucked up dude going nowhere in life. Game is beyond based.

[Anonymous No.8762332]

>>8761123
The Lego men are admittedly much easier on the eyes than those Tim Burton-esque monsters.

[Anonymous No.8764179]

>>8758112
No it's most JRPGs outside a small handful. I also find people who think it's "only FF" don't even give FF nearly enough credit for what it does have.

[Anonymous No.8764194]

Plays better than the Remake. Doesn't even look bad. If anything time is making it better.

[Anonymous No.8764202]

>>8758501
>I kind of wish we ended up getting better overworld models
The overworld models look better than the battle models

[Anonymous No.8764226]

Wish it were a bit harder. Materia is excellent but there's very little use for crazy sets. The aesthetic is great. Music is mostly good. Story is just okay. The characters are fun and look great but need just a BIT more development.

[Anonymous No.8764273]

>>8757729
The other day I finally understood why I liked the materia system better than the esper system from VI. It's because materia capacity is limited and you only get a few or maybe even one of the rarest materia. You have enough materia variety to give any particular character any kind of setup you want, but you don't have enough room to give everybody every sort of spell and ability. So your characters are highly customizable but will still probably end up with a somewhat unique skillset.

Like, any character can be given the steal materia but not all of them at once. Who gets manipulate? Who gets Long Range? Deathblow? How many poison materia do you really want? Even if you try to absolutely load up any one character you only get so many spaces and so you couldn't just give every element + all + every kind of support materia. You have to make choices. It's a completely customizable system that's still very balanced. Probably the best way to go if you're not going to enforce strict character classes

[Anonymous No.8764283]

>>8764273

It's pretty easy to get multiple copies of unique materia, simply slot desired materia on a double growth armor item and grind until you master. Boom.

[Anonymous No.8764294]

>>8761123
I wish it had Enc-none.

I don't know why they decided to be such dicks about toggling random encounters on and off. The moogle boots in VI let you do it. Diabolos' abilities in VIII let you do it. In VII you had to pray to the RNG god at the chocobo races to win enemy away at random and even if you actually get it (which has only ever happened to me once after making a deliberate effort and racing so many times I can't stand the thought of it any more) it only kinda works and you have to level it up by fighting shitloads of random battles, which is the thing it's supposed to be helping you avoid. JUST LET ME BUY THE FUCKING THING WHY DO I HAVE TO RACE TWO HUNDRED TIMES AND WIN ANYTHING BUT THE THING I WANT REEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.8764303]

>>8757712
AH SHIT, HERE WE GO AGAIN

[Anonymous No.8764316]

>>8764283
Of course excessive grinding makes the game a joke if you do it long enough. It's a JRPG.

But most of the unique materia take for fucking ever to master and even if you're willing to grind out 80,000 ap midway through the game it still only gets you one extra copy and your number of slots are still limited. Even if you were autistic enough to grind out extra copies of everything you still wouldn't be able to equip them all. That's much more balanced than Vi where if you did even a moderate amount of grinding every character became a fucking grandmaster wizard who knew every spell in the game.

[Anonymous No.8764325]

>>8757712
absolutely

[Anonymous No.8764342]

More importantly, why didn't someone port the spirit bug fix to the NTSC-J International version?

[Anonymous No.8764347]

I played it for the first time recently and I really enjoyed it. It was pleasantly dated with a wonderful art style, a fantastic soundtrack and genuine heart.

However, when I play it I do get a little jealous that I didn't play it when I was younger.

I think most people have 'that' game from when they were younger. That game that reminds them of getting to enjoy something on both an individual and extremely personal level. Something that you felt spoke to you and carved it's name into your subconscious and won't ever leave you.

When I see people talking about the game from a modern perspective I find it quite pointless because whatever you say, it doesn't matter. To someone, they played this at the exact right point in their life where they got their own TV in their room, had the console to themselves and 'exploring' a world for the first time.

I know there is the "Final Fantasy House" and other weebs who made this game their life, but; ya know what? I don't feel that but I understand it. When FF7 came out it felt huge (and still does compared to a lot of games today, even RPG's). People made this game their life because for a few months or even years when they were young, it was their life.

When you're a kid, you don't really get to choose what you want to do. FF7 let you do that. It let you choose your party, choose where you wanted to explore, find secrets and find new characters. It let you play it as much as you wanted to.

There is a youtube channel called "4-8 productions" and 90% of his stuff is FF7. Playing the game over and over, talking about it constantly, finding every tiny piece of information. FF7 was 'Undertale' of the 90's.

We all had our own FF7 and OOT. (mine was Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and FFIX)

So yeah, you can have an opinion on the game. But just remember that for a lot of people; they don't think of FF7 as a game as much as that existential pain we feel when we long for our childhood. The weekends off school.

The glow of the TV.

[Anonymous No.8764371]

>>8764347
>FF7 was 'Undertale' of the 90's.
Really just in the "people liking it" sense, so that's a strange comparison. There's no weird gay stuff, outside of mocking it.

[Anonymous No.8764379]

>>8764371

"People liking it"

Are you kidding? FF7 for some people back then and even now, is basically a religion. It spoke to them on such a deep and meaningful level that they base their own ideologies on it's world and make choices in their lives inspired by it.

What I'm trying to say, is that both FF7 and UT are so meaningful to the young people who played those games and were their first 'really beautiful game' that in the future, those kids who loved UT, will turn into adults who will always view it as basically perfection no matter what other people say. Just like FF7.

[Anonymous No.8764397]

>>8758187
>The real godsend in the PS4 port is running battles at 3X speed. No way in hell I’d have the patience nowadays to sit through all those lengthy summons
You haven't played FF7 until you've cast Bahamut Zero linked to Quadra-magic and left to go get dinner

[Anonymous No.8764407]

>>8757712
Yes, but I've been playing it since its release so I'm biased. Has never been an "old game" to me.

[Anonymous No.8764441]

>>8757712
Played the original unpatched PS1 version for the first time in 2014 and had a blast.
The translation can be rough and the story is whack at times but its overall super charming and the gameplay is still fun.

[Anonymous No.8764453]

Final Fantasy 7 taught me about drivers on PC for the first time.
The PC version came with some Yamaha drivers for some reason that I just installed for the hell of it.

Until I did that, my stupid kid self had no idea that Tiberian Sun was actually running in slow-motion all this time and the Total Annihilation narrator wasn't meant to have a chipmunk voice

[Anonymous No.8764548]

>>8764379
There are hundreds of games like this, especially among Millennials/Zoomers, for whom substantial human connections are rare.

[Anonymous No.8764551]

>>8764453
I killed so many PCs trying to figure out how they worked without having a clue. My parents didn't have money, either, so I got in a lot of trouble.

[Anonymous No.8764586]

>>8764273
Yep and this is similar to the FFV job system, which was the most fun and balanced by far.

[Anonymous No.8764698]

>>8757712
It's not worth playing in 2022. The graphics aged insanely bad, even compared to FF8. The story is bland, the characters are bland. Don't make up shitty excuses. Everything made after, movie, remakes added to their personalities and character. Yet, I grew up with it so I still love it and if you did. You would of been amazed by the amount of content coming from snes and sega rpgs.

[Anonymous No.8764717]

>>8757850
I kek'd

[Anonymous No.8764740]

>>8764548

There are now, but pre PS1? I can't really think of any (Except Earthbound, which was so revered by a subgroup that it arguably created the first ever successful fan site)

I mean, I guess you could also say Sonic but thats a whole different (cream the) rabbithole...

[Anonymous No.8764750]

>>8764698

The movie is a steaming pile of utter dogshit. One of the worst "sequels" to happy to a piece of media since Highlander 2.

I'd rather watch Epic Movie again than watch Advent Children.

[Anonymous No.8764758]

>>8764586
I hate that I never got to play V when it was released initially. I can appreciate it for what it is now but it's just not the same as would have been if I'd got to play it in the 90's directly after IV. I still don't get the decision to only release it Japan. IV didn't sell *that* great in the US but people did buy it.

[Anonymous No.8764832]

>>8757729
>magic system is good
>dump it in the next game to "mix it up", instead of adding more depth to the RPG gameplay
That's the JRPG way

[Anonymous No.8764873]

>>8757712
The character models and sound quality are total ass. But this bothered me when it first came out too and I still logged hundreds of hours replaying it endlessly so yeah it's still a good game.

[Anonymous No.8764876]

>>8757712
6 has aged better

sprites > old 3d

[Anonymous No.8764895]

>>8757712
It holds up my dilznick, you know what I'm sayin'?

[Anonymous No.8764953]

>>8764895
That sweetie has world-class blowjob lips.

[Anonymous No.8765028]

>>8764740
>There are now, but pre PS1?
Fandoms weren't as visible or organized in the 80s and early 90s because the Internet wasn't widespread and most gamers were young children. But believe me, there were people obsessed with Mega Man, Zelda, Mario, etc.

[Anonymous No.8765029]

>>8757712

Still one of the best games ever. Its like the Star Wars or LotR equivalent for gaming. Just a grand epic with insanely good music and feels

[Anonymous No.8765097]

>>8765028

But I am not on about fandom's specifically.

I am talking about games that resonated with people on such a deep level that they essentially fell in love with it. Not love as in, "I fucking love this cherry pie"

I mean love, as in unconditional love. As in "I will die for this fucking game" kind thing.

No one was playing Super Mario World and thinking "Oh my god... This game gets me. I feel so part of it's world. I want to die and live inside this game."

Or are they? Tell me.

[Anonymous No.8765118]

>>8765097
>Or are they? Tell me.
That kind of response is really more of a teenager thing and gamers were younger. But there was the little kid version of that for sure.

https://youtu.be/r2zps0pzrxk

[Anonymous No.8765676]

>>8757712
Played it for the first time back in 2020 and to be very honest, i didn't care for it.

[Anonymous No.8765914]

>>8764895
They made a game from this hentai?

[Anonymous No.8766475]

>>8757712
>hold up
it's a JRPG, the genre hasn't evolved since the first dragon quest aside from the grinding which was toned down. some were always good, some were always shit, but asking it it holds up doesn't make sense

[Anonymous No.8766607]

https://youtu.be/gBdeMpmSx84

[Anonymous No.8766758]

>>8765676
Please, give an example of a JRPG that you do care about?

[Anonymous No.8766792]

>>8757712
Loved all the Final Fantasy games while growing up. Thought the storytelling was amazing. Now if I play one they're cringe as fuck and full of cliches and anime stereotypes. Maybe it was only good because I had very little compare it to.

The pre-rendered backgrounds and the music are still pure kino. The music might be the best part of the entire game.

[Anonymous No.8766804]

Surely I'm not the only one who likes both of them, right?

[Anonymous No.8766831]

>>8766804
Aerith just looks more feminine and has a more "real" personality. Tifa is just a boring Stacey to me. Sure, she looks nice but I never found her very interesting.

[Anonymous No.8766845]

>>8758215
Loved the original and wanted a remake for years. Haven't touched the remake and have no interest in it. I wanted a remaster I guess.

[Anonymous No.8766856]

>>8762231
I wish more games had a main character who is a nobody. Games these days put too much focus on making the player feel "special" and it's just shit.

[Anonymous No.8768571]

>>8757712
Is the best

[Anonymous No.8768593]

>>8757712
I haven't played this since '99 or so. Is the game beatable without summons? Watching Knights of The Round and Neo Bahamut for 10 minutes was cool when I was a kid, but now I don't want to be bothered with it.

[Anonymous No.8768765]

>>8768593
game is piss easy so yeah it's beatable without summons