HAPPY BIRTHDAY, /vr/!

[Anonymous No.8725819]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>8716686

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more):
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives:
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series:
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil:
https://mega.nz/file/BzxyGBBZ#cHtxsid-0wpeFltrPAYCStiwYCXshndXUCfOEXSP7gs
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

[Anonymous No.8725824]

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461
Current release
https://mega.nz/file/erwV0IbC#LE6uNgNAXh8CkxNhZpFxY3cxMWrS6_eaO92ZdotUfho

=== NEWS ===
[03-13] Quake 2 hi-res pack final release
https://www.moddb.com/mods/turoktirol/addons/oblivion-for-quake-2-hi-res-texture-pack

[03-12] Powerslave patch and editor released
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/1502729607363051522

[03-07] Q3Rally v0.4 released
https://www.q3rally.com/2022/03/02/q3rally-v0-4-is-out/

[03-05] Elementalism Phase 1 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100102

[03-04] Chocolate Descent gets a beta release
https://github.com/InsanityBringer/ChocolateDescent/releases/tag/v0.1-beta

[03-03] Anon finishes The 10x10 Project
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125783-the-10x10-project-complete-cl9/

[03-03] Underground Dungeon begins Serious Sam TSE mapping jam

[03-03] John Romero releases a new WAD
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/727328864489046110/948764939949072394/one-humanity.zip

[03-02] LOLAttack: every monster uses every attack
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=74802#p1214275

[03-01] DBP45: Vrack Botanicals is out now
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2462/vrack-botanicals

[02-28] Dark Forces launcher released, supports mouselook and downloading
https://df-21.net/?post=57

[02-25] Quake 2 Oblivion upscaled texture pack released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/oblivion-upscaled-texture-pack

[02-24] DOOM 64 re-release updated
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1148590/announcements/detail/3088910094673350021

[02-24] Automap Quake released.
https://jaycie.erysdren.me/quake/automap/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

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[Anonymous No.8725838]

I like Doom

[Anonymous No.8725875]

Sign of Evil reminds me of detective noir. I want to hear it playing while Doomguy drives through a city at night, monologuing about the dame who smells like trouble.

[Anonymous No.8725887]

It's /vr/'s birthday?

[Anonymous No.8725892]

>>8725887
Yep. 9 years young today. Pour one out, lads.

[Anonymous No.8725924]

itt: list only the best enemy ideas that would make the game known as doom more fun

>Chain Elemental
it's a pain elemental with indigestion that vomits out "loss souls" at the exact rate the chaingun fires
if you try to block its mouth it farts them instead
when it dies it releases 15 of them
>Loss Soul
it's a tiny lost soul with 5 health and doom 64-level aggression that explodes on death like a barrel
they can't infight with or be damaged by other enemies
there is no loss soul limit
>Cyberdemo
it's a cyberdemon that rocket jumps immediately after every 3 rocket volley
gets good airtime so he can shoot downward before falling
>Spider
it's just the mechanical legs of an arachnotron that move at quadruple speed and try to box you in/stomp you
>Mancu Bus
it's 8 turret mancubuses on a bus that circles around the player from a distance
has the health of 8 mancubuses
(mancubuses is the plural of mancubus unless you're referring to several different species of mancubus, in which case mancubi is proper, but these are all the same type of mancubus on the mancu bus)
>Rev-Enant
it's a revenant with 2 shoulder mounted chainguns so it deals the same damage as a spider mastermind
it still fires homing missles when you flinch it

please say nice things about my ideas i worked hard on them

[Anonymous No.8725928]

>>8725892
>>8725887
What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.8725939]

>>8725928
I still believe things have been getting better in recent years.

[Anonymous No.8725953]

>>8725939
HFFM was great, absolutely tourist proof, pissed off newfags who were concerned with "nyeh the normies won't play it though change the name >:(", still turned out great in spite of them, beautiful little shitpost of a project
Still fondly remember the wip posts of piss easy and lunchlunch's one with the slime hitlers and contra-scrolling fireblus (was that later forever or somewhat possible?)

[Anonymous No.8725959]

>>8725953
Ayy

[Anonymous No.8725971]

>Ashes even uses some Fallout sounds in its menu
I dig this already. Oh, and enemies do have their own blood. This is fine. The HUD isn't bad, either. I'd take a screenshot but 4.7.1 absolutely will not save screenshots for some reason.

Also I kinda wanna share the blood mod I "made" from MSX. It works with roach blood. I might give Nashgore a try later.
https://files.catbox.moe/2a3bgv.pk3

[Anonymous No.8726065]

>>8725924
>mancubuses is the plural of mancubus
I'm pretty sure the plural of Mancubus is "fat Fucks"

[Anonymous No.8726093]

>>8725928
People kept flooding in from /v/ to avoid /v/s toxicity and contrarianism only to enforce it. They also kept demanding newer games get labeled as retro to further make it like /v/. Retro FPS general remains the most consistently passable part of the board, people here actually talk about stuff they enjoy rather than spamming threads about how good games are bad or LE SOULL LE SOULESS comparison posts. And that fucking maniac who has bitched about Half Life for 5+ years

[Anonymous No.8726094]

>>8725971
My favorite games from childhood were Duke Nukem 3D and first Fallout, Ashes is a perfect mix of both. I wonder if Vostyok who made it even has dayjob, doing this mod for free for so many years. This is commercial level of quality, although most of the sprites taken from other games

[Anonymous No.8726124]

>>8725939
>HFFM
>Ad Mortem
>Violent Rumble
Shit's been good recently. Would like to see more non-Doom projects, but I don't know how feasible that is.

[Anonymous No.8726129]

>>8726124
We can't even get regular non-Doom MP nights going. 500mL got six maps from 3 people, and Blood's hardly obscure.

[Anonymous No.8726132]

>>8725892
where has the time gone...

[Anonymous No.8726176]

>>8726129
I guess you've got a point, though Violent Rumble did decently. Maybe more Quake, at least.

[Anonymous No.8726185]

>>8726129
Blood, however, is difficult to make maps for. There are no tools comparable to what both Quake and Doom have. If Build had editors of that level of quality then I'm sure there would have been more maps out there.

[Anonymous No.8726187]

>>8726185
Oldschool Build modders get mad when you say that Mapster32 is an old clunky piece of shit lol

[Anonymous No.8726196]

>>8726176
trenchbroom is as user friendly as bsp mapping gets and you still don't see nearly as many quake mappers because it... isn't doom + 3d level design is hard ;_; (i'm not even factoring in shit like having to learn quakec to do any kind of actual modding)

[Anonymous No.8726206]

>>8726094
Similar story here, but Fallout 2 and Doom 2. I particularly enjoy the PIP-Boy HUD.

[Anonymous No.8726237]

Is there some kind of list or resource for noteworthy Serious Sam TFE and TSE fanmade maps/campaigns? I'm looking for some and one good one I've noticed so far is Military Decay.

[Anonymous No.8726243]

>>8725892
Happy birthday, /vr/!

[Anonymous No.8726249]

Happy birthday, /vr/. I'm proud to have spent these past nine years with you boys. It was here in the Doom general where I realized my dream of making vidya wasn't dead, it was just sleeping. Term helped get me started on making shit and now here I am making a bunch of mods, drawing sprites and shit. Along with plans for making standalone games in the future.

[Anonymous No.8726267]

I've been here since /vr/ started, it remains my favorite board on the site.

How long have I been noodling away at this Immoral Conduct project for? 6 years maybe? And there isn't even really anything to show for it, the past 2 years has had me sidelined by mapping and taking part in /doom/ projects, and I don't regret it one bit, it's been so very fun. I never thought I had any mapping in me, that all that old trash was just trash that would never amount to or lead to anything, but man did I prove myself wrong.

Maybe some day I'll make my own little partial/total conversion or something, all on my own. I feel confident that I can make some decent maps and then put some flashy shit in them, because it's fun to make flashy shit. First I'll have to actually wrap up the Immoral Conduct thing though, and still I haven't thought of a name for it.

Here's to nine more years of this beautiful shithole.

[Anonymous No.8726276]

>>8726196
>isn't doom + 3d level design is hard
Heh, funny enough I have a harder time making maps for Doom than for Quake because my ideas are usually more fit for a 3D space and not having to work around the limitations of 2.5D is really liberating.

[Anonymous No.8726327]

I know I'm just another anon, but occasional drama aside these are some of the nicest threads on 4chan. It's refreshing to talk to posters that actually like a game for once. You guys are the best.

[Anonymous No.8726338]

>>8726196
>this was supposed to be sectors
jej

[Anonymous No.8726349]

>>8725892
christ, I'm old
i hate it

[Anonymous No.8726352]

I'm a fairly recent immigrant to the thread, but I like spending time with you guys. I've learned a shit ton about game design in the last year thanks to this general.

[Anonymous No.8726354]

While I have been on /vr/ only for three or so yeads, this is one of two threads that I browse on 4chan. People here are nice and helpful. Happy birthday!

[Anonymous No.8726356]

Haven't been playing much doom lately cause I've been working on my backlog but I'm happy with what I've completed so far.

Plutonia 2 was good but it has confirmed that I prefer level packs more than megawads because I always end up getting bored about 15-20 maps in, though I think some of the levels around that point were mid anyway.

The first third was great though and Arch Violence was kino.

[Anonymous No.8726365]

>>8725819
Girthday Qake map jam when

[Anonymous No.8726369]

Stay hard and fast, anons!

[Anonymous No.8726384]

>>8725892
that can't be right

[Anonymous No.8726406]

Golden Souls 2 is still pretty good.

[Anonymous No.8726408]

>>8726365
We could do a project for Quake's 26th anniversary this year. Sucks that we missed the 25th though.

[Anonymous No.8726419]

>>8726354
Yeah, it's like a day and night difference between here and, say, /v/ for example. Super refreshing.

[Anonymous No.8726427]

>>8726406

[Anonymous No.8726437]

>>8726237
Unfortunately SeriousZone moved to Discord so you can't see any quality discussions there (although the files archive is still up, thankfully). If you dare brave the Discord you can probably find something, or you can look at what people thought was good enough to bother uploading to the Revolutions workshop.

[Anonymous No.8726438]

What's the point of Health/Armor bonus?

[Anonymous No.8726457]

>>8726438
healing over 100% and a nice way to repair blue armor. Sometimes dripfeeding a player can be enough to keep them from the edge of death but still force them to be cautious.
It also feels good to pick them up when there's a shitload of them close together.

[Anonymous No.8726476]

>>8726438
>>8726457
i guess there's also the situations where you have to pick up bonuses before regular pick ups, meaning you can't always stack for over 100

[Anonymous No.8726520]

Nightdive patched out the retarded player hitbox in Powerslave exhumed experience is 100x better now

[Anonymous No.8726525]

>>8726520
I get that's the hurtbox is a little wide but it's hardly an issue, don't know what you guys are complaining about.

[Anonymous No.8726537]

>>8726276
to me quake 1 is the sweet spot between stupidly complicated, more modern engines (i guess source isn't really "modern" anymore but whatever) and 2.5d shit like doom - you can do so much more with a full 3d environment and you don't have to worry about hacky room-over-room bullshit, but it's abstract enough that you can get away with a lot of shit that simply wouldn't fly in a different game/engine. this applies to pretty much every older fps though, like hl1 and every goldsrc mod ever. also laying down brushes just always made more sense than drawing sectors to me, it feels like chipping away at a giant byzantine sculpture with lots of monster closets and boiling lava in it
then again, doom is much easier to mod and limiting yourself with dumb arbitrary engine restrictions is fun, so i'm not really surprised that there are ten times the number of doom wads out there compared to quake stuff
>>8726520
what the fuck this isn't fair, nightdive isn't allowed to do anything good they're supposed to abandon their hacky ports immediately after releasing them so they can go back to working on the fucking system shock netflix show nobody asked for

[Anonymous No.8726582]

>>8726438
bread crumbs that doesnt stick around and glow

[Anonymous No.8726716]

>>8726354
This and /tea/ for me. Granted, this place still has its fair share of shitposting, but the rest of you make it worth it.

[Anonymous No.8726793]

Happy birthday, /vr/. I still remember being so surprised when I found out there was a Doom general. When I popped in at the time everyone was talking about mancubuses vs. mancubi.
>>8726525
Not enough jumping I think, or they’re getting tilted in the first levels after several years of being used to Doom hitboxes.

[Anonymous No.8726795]

>>8726187
They just don't want to lose their position as special boys.

[Anonymous No.8726816]

>>8726237
this guy has a few good ones https://rakanishu-sed.itch.io/

[Anonymous No.8726893]

Dean of Doom, I beg you... A review of A.L.T...

[Anonymous No.8726895]

>>8726893
Please no. I am still hoping for an episode on Eternal Doom.

[Anonymous No.8726896]

>>8726895
You already got your Memento Mori, give me the A.L.T. dammit

[Anonymous No.8726904]

>>8726816
>Cannon Bio-Mechanoid
Dear god...

[Anonymous No.8726914]

I've been actively lurking here for around 2 years now (Don't really remember for how long, honestly) since these threads are just damn nice. Thank you for keeping it going. Maybe one day I stop being an indecisive coward and do some mapping, modding... any kind of useful stuff instead of whatever I am doing now. To proper give back to this safe haven where I escape from shitty reality.

[Anonymous No.8726918]

Made this small map to give you something to play on /vr/'s birthday. Vanilla doom 2 map01. Lower skills start you with armour but are otherwise identical.
https://files.catbox.moe/uw79ag.zip
I'm also submitting this to the /vr/ Mondo Project.

[Anonymous No.8726952]

>>8726918
https://files.catbox.moe/o9zabn.7z
Did a UV demo, died a couple times at the beginning but still got it without the secret.
I was using vsmooth.wad and the enemy sprite fix, just in case it desyncs.

[Anonymous No.8726980]

>>8725824
Deus Vult II confirmed still in the works, targetting Doom's 30th anniversary for E1 release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2469298

[Anonymous No.8726993]

>>8725819
That was /vr/s first birthday.
Good times.

[Anonymous No.8727021]

>>8726918
pretty solid onion map, had a blast even though im not a big fan of fighting cybies with RL. Havent found the secret, nice /vr/tan automap art

[Anonymous No.8727037]

What Doom source ports have you guys been using in recent times? I've been using DSDA-Doom quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.8727041]

>>8726187
"Its actually easy if you memorize 200 hotkeys and learn how not to corrupt your map"

[Anonymous No.8727057]

>>8727037
i smash them together like rocks until i get a decent hybrid
currently running gzwoofbloom 4.63

[Anonymous No.8727059]

>>8727057
>gzwoofbloom
Can it run Ad Mortem?

[Anonymous No.8727060]

>>8727037
That in addition to Eternity and GZD for gameplay mods.

[Anonymous No.8727065]

>>8727037
If DSDA had an option to remove save confirmation and enable the notification when you find a secret, it would be perfect.

[Anonymous No.8727067]

>>8725819
>[03-13] Quake 2 hi-res pack final release
>https://www.moddb.com/mods/turoktirol/addons/oblivion-for-quake-2-hi-res-texture-pack
so to run Oblivion with HD textures for Quake 2 i need;
the above https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-the-reconing-ground-zero-hi-res-texture-pack
and these?
https://www.celephais.net/oblivion/main.html
https://www.moddb.com/mods/turoktirol/downloads/oblivion1
https://www.moddb.com/mods/turoktirol/addons/oblivion-for-quake-2-hi-res-texture-pack
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-monster-skins/downloads/fraggers-hd-q2-monster-skins

[Anonymous No.8727081]

>>8727065
>no secret notification
dis-fucking-gusting

[Anonymous No.8727083]

>>8727065
Huh? Did they remove the secret notification from DSDA? Weird considering the normal prboom has the option to turn it on.

[Anonymous No.8727089]

>>8727065
>>8727081
??????

[Anonymous No.8727108]

>>8727089
Also speaking of DSDA doom, I just booted it up to check these settings and for some reason everything is super high pitched. I haven't touched it in a few weeks so I don't know why this is happening.
https://files.catbox.moe/gm1iy7.mp4

[Anonymous No.8727124]

>>8727065
What would really make DSDA perfect is colored blood and mirrored corpses.

[Anonymous No.8727141]

can anyone tell me whats the best way to connect DeathManager over TCP/IP on a Win9x system?

[Anonymous No.8727142]

>>8727124
isn't that just WOOF?

[Anonymous No.8727151]

>>8727142
Does Woof have full-screen resolutions? It doesn't fit my monitor.

[Anonymous No.8727160]

Does anyone have any tips on designing crate mazes?

[Anonymous No.8727169]

>>8727141
use dosbox

[Anonymous No.8727171]

>>8727160
Crates are a good place to begin.

[Anonymous No.8727187]

>>8727160
Look up videos of rats going through a maze. Copy the one that took them the longest.

[Anonymous No.8727194]

>>8727160
Make a sprawling wine cellar instead.

[Anonymous No.8727253]

>>8727141
Would suggest using ZDoom LE (Legacy Edition) instead, really easy way to get playing with a range of older and newer windows systems over TCP

[Anonymous No.8727260]

>>8726187
>>8726795
>>8727041
Is there seriously nothing better than some 25 year old crap software that's just been occasionally patched to run on modern systems over the years? Why has nobody made something better?

[Anonymous No.8727279]

>>8727260
The people who use it are used to their shitty software and don't want anything better.
The people who don't use it think it sucks and just make something for ZDoom or whatever.

[Anonymous No.8727293]

>>8726185
There’s Xmapedit for a slightly better version that doesn’t need Dosbox, still weird to get used to.

[Anonymous No.8727309]

>>8727253
>ZDoom LE requires the following: Pentium 133, 16 MB RAM, 1 MB SVGA card and Windows 95.
Neat. I'm gonna have to tweak these settings to get it to not run like ass with more recent mods, but neat.

[Anonymous No.8727326]

Why isn't UV Solo net a demo category?

[Anonymous No.8727334]

>>8727067
Yes, just do that you are good to go
also i need to update that pack with the most recent one, BUT since my PSU is dying and it cant load the 1tb hard drive with the stuff in it, all i could do for now is the hyperblaster, which i must say, it looks great.

[Anonymous No.8727337]

>>8727334
ground texture is great too

[Anonymous No.8727339]

>>8727260
Theres way more Doom fans than Duke/Blood/SW fans. So statistically, its more likely that one of the former would be dedicated enough to write an entirely new editor, and also be talented at UI design.

[Anonymous No.8727342]

>>8727279
>The people who use it are used to their shitty software and don't want anything better.
Bewildering. The first person 3D mode was something people wanted for years in Doom editing software, and which some devs had promised in updates, but it never came until Doom Builder was released, prompting most people to abandon preexisting editors over night, and stragglers to move on not long after.

Ain't there shit people want Mapster32 to do?

[Anonymous No.8727353]

take the Serious Editor pill
then get ambushed by 5 major biomechanoids for picking up said pill

[Anonymous No.8727358]

>>8727353
Once I replay the games on Serious, so I learn to crush player's balls correctly.

[Anonymous No.8727369]

>>8727339
take the goldsrc pill

[Anonymous No.8727371]

I think its time for /vr/ to host its own Tileset Challenge.
some winamp skins would look great as map tilesets https://twitter.com/winampskins/status/1504865312843345925/photo/1

[Anonymous No.8727372]

Why does Graf hate Build so much?

[Anonymous No.8727374]

>>8727358
>>8727353
The sound design was so good that they stay in our minds years and years after the fact in terror

>bzwong
>CLIPCLOPCLIPCLOPCLIPCLOPCLIPCLOPCLIPCLOPCLIPCLOPCLIPCLOPCLIPCLOPCLIPCLOPCLIPCLOPCLIPCLOP

[Anonymous No.8727376]

>>8727372
same reason he hates quake 1 and 2 engines.
he cant code for shit.

[Anonymous No.8727391]

Better Hell to Pay be good

[Anonymous No.8727397]

>>8727372
not dev related, but i've noticed doom players tend to hate build games
being forced to take cover or move a certain way or prioritize burst weapons against hitscanners confuses and enrages them

[Anonymous No.8727414]

>>8727397
>go to duke4net
>actual long active threads about other fps like half life, quake, doom, shadow warrior, blood and it's mods
>go to doomworld
>not such thing
Why are they like this?

[Anonymous No.8727452]

>>8727397
Anyone’s preexisting hatred for Doom’s hitscanners gets amplified with the ones in build. You’ll also get some players gaining the misconception that Blood and SW on their higher difficulties will be as easy/difficult as Doom 1 and 2 on UV.
It was discussed a few threads back about how vocal people can be with how much they hate having to “take cover” and think simple circle strafing 100% of the time should be enough (what’s funny is that works well on cultists, if where you’re fighting allows it).

[Anonymous No.8727519]

>>8727160
I was actually JUST thinking of making a crate map
with all the walls, floors, and sky made of crate and the crates made of flesh, circuits, rock, enemy sprites, etc. before the whole thing becomes an eldritch crate nightmare

[Anonymous No.8727523]

>>8727369
STAHP

[Anonymous No.8727527]

Tried Memento Mori 2 for the first time today, didn't expect it to be that good. After playing several old megawads such as Eternal Doom, Perdition's Gate & Hell to Pay, I've got the impression that 90s stuff isn't worth it other than historical interest, but MM2 proved me wrong.
10 maps in, so far the only one that reeked this typical 90s schizo mapping style was MAP06. Otherwise it's really great, I found myself thinking this would've been incredible as a part of Final Doom.

[Anonymous No.8727535]

>>8727527
Perdition's Gate is patrician fuck you

[Anonymous No.8727541]

>>8727414
It’s more or less the same thing on Doomerboards. There’ll be a few threads on other and older games and them getting re-released but Doomers gonna Doom.

[Anonymous No.8727545]

Not sure if this one was posted, but some woman tried Violent Rumble: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1413308432?
Haven't watched the whole thing but
>couldn't figure out how to turn on nightmare, forced it via console
>never looked at the help menu and thus had no idea about the runes and so-on
>used randomizers from the start
>got lost on NBABS in the giant room with the tube, quit
>skipped the grenade launcher and first laser cannon in RASTR

mamma mia

[Anonymous No.8727559]

>>8727535
From what I remember it starts fine but then degrades down to DM maps with some monsters thrown in. Better than other two wads I mentioned but still, not something I'd replay.

[Anonymous No.8727607]

I know this is neither retro or an FPS, but I got an extra copy of the Spyro reignited trilogy and I'm too lazy to trade.
0T4_K-MX6VF-YWAPT
See pic related for missing letter

[Anonymous No.8727613]

>>8727519
use worldcraft for that, there is a ISO of it at moddb.

[Anonymous No.8727625]

>>8727374
I like the effect of far away enemies making slightly muffled sound, like biomechs stomping or werebulls galloping. Helps with effect of grand scale Sam games aim for.

[Anonymous No.8727638]

>>8727625
the kamikaze idle sounds always get a chuckle out of me

[Anonymous No.8727645]

>>8727638
Kek yeah. Dude barely holds his urge to AAAAAAAA.

[Anonymous No.8727662]

>>8727397
Complete and utter nonsense, if anything that approach translates freely between games, and only fucking retards do not use cover when playing Doom.

[Anonymous No.8727712]

>>8727662
>and only fucking retards do not use cover when playing Doom
That may be the group of people he’s frequently running into since “all Doom players” is a wide exaggeration. I hope this group of “fucking retards” isn’t that large, influential or worse, growing.

[Anonymous No.8727723]

>>8727712
I bet it's the same bunch that bitch about the archvile.

[Anonymous No.8727727]

>>8725819
Damn. I guess Bikini Bottom Massacre got memoryholed? Anyone got a mirror link? I wanted to show it to my brother.

[Anonymous No.8727734]

>>8727414
Threads on Doomworld about Doom tend to be divided up into smaller topics about Doom, which are discussed for a while, with the thread reemerging every few months or so after the initial discussion died down.

So it's still there, it's just more fragmented.
For other games though, it's true that discussion is very limited.

[Anonymous No.8727736]

rekkr?
more like cummr

[Anonymous No.8727746]

[Anonymous No.8727761]

>>8727089
HUD settings, really?

[Anonymous No.8727765]

>>8727723
Thankfully I’ve witnessed more praise than whine for the archvile.
I’m used to hitscanning complaints at this point, but I admit to still getting bummed when people don’t appreciate the subtlety to avoiding revenant missiles.

[Anonymous No.8727771]

>>8727761
Yeah, took me a while to find the setting in Prboom too

[Anonymous No.8727778]

>>8727727
Viacom hit it with a DMCA takedown order. The author put up a notice a couple days ago that he would need to take it down soon.

[Anonymous No.8727791]

>>8727778
what a bunch of fucking bitch niggers
fucking nintendo-ass cocksuckers
this was is a dream come true

[Anonymous No.8727817]

>>8727727
>>8727791
https://litter.catbox.moe/qtotts.wad

Here. Too big for catbox, so I used litterbox. Get it fast.
Author's notes were: Freelook on; crouch and jump off

[Anonymous No.8727828]

>>8727817
Dammit, Anon, the one time dolphin porn is close enough to what was asked for for maximum comedy...

[Anonymous No.8727836]

>>8727817
is this 1.3? thanks anon

[Anonymous No.8727837]

>>8727778
>>8727791
Viacom Delenda Est

[Anonymous No.8727840]

>>8727836
It is, and you're welcome.

[Anonymous No.8727854]

>>8726918
not bad,but a bit too mean for the small monster count.

[Anonymous No.8727896]

>>8727746
>Doomworld.png

[Anonymous No.8727907]

>>8727527
Some 90s stuff is fabled for a reason, some maybe has an exaggerated reputation.

>Plutonia
>Evilution
>Batman Doom TC
>Obituary
>Memento Mori 1 & 2
>Requiem
>Hell Revealed
>Icarus
>Mordeth
>Army Of Darkness TC
>Aliens TC
>Biowar
>Mars War
>The Darkening
>Cyber Dreams
>A Fistful Of Doom
These were all done in the 90s, and they all have something going for them. They're not all perfect, but if you go through them, you'll probably find some stuff you'll really like. You'll probably also be very impressed by some of them considering the state of available tools in the 90s. Batman Doom in particular is extremely impressive for being all DeHacked shit.
I will however concede that Doom mapping ended up getting all the more interesting in the 2000s, better and more flexible tools and ports allow for incredible things.

>>8727535
There's parts I like about Perdition's Gate, but also a lot that I don't, half of the levels feel like thoughtless filler. To me, anyway, many levels did not feel engaging to explore or look at, much combat was dry and underwhelming, and there's a strong lack of variety.
That said, I also think the set has glimmers of some really cool stuff

[Anonymous No.8727925]

He picks up "rocks" and throws them at you, when in reality he's using the arch vile's resurrect frames on dead cacodemons. Him picking up rocks and throwing them at you is actually the arch vile's resurrect frames being used on dead cacodemons. It's some seriously cool shit.

[Anonymous No.8727928]

>>8727925
How do I get rid of this dumb message in dsda doom? I dont care about this degenerate speed runner shit.

[Anonymous No.8727930]

>>8727907
>Batman Doom in particular is extremely impressive for being all DeHacked shit.
The killer croc fight is impressive from a technical standpoint. He picks up "rocks" and throws them at you, when in reality he's using the arch vile's resurrect frames on dead cacodemons. It's some seriously cool shit.
deleted half my post like a dumbass

[Anonymous No.8727939]

>>8727928
Oh, that is not the right post at all, anon. Not even close.

[Anonymous No.8727941]

FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT TIME FAGGOTS! We've got a VERY special night of fragging lined up for you. We're playing happybirthdayvr.wad, greenwar2 (our first FNF wad), and a brand new surprise map with SAMSARA! Is it gonna crash? Probably. Will that stop us? Probably not. Connect with Zandronum and celebrate the occasion with us.
51.161.34.159:10666

[Anonymous No.8728001]

>>8727817
what's the author's handle?

[Anonymous No.8728003]

>>8727746
Any lesser-known and fun map packs I should try out?

[Anonymous No.8728036]

>>8727817
Thanks man.

[Anonymous No.8728040]

>>8727712
>isn’t that large, influential or worse, growing.
Oh it is. They're the same ones that think the chainsaw was useless so the changes in D44m made it better and more useful.

[Anonymous No.8728094]

>>8727736
Lazy

[Anonymous No.8728126]

>>8728040
Sadness. That would also explain the lack of hitscan attacks in either newer title, especially the most notorious one from the archvile.

[Anonymous No.8728135]

>>8727817
What Sourceport does this work best with?

[Anonymous No.8728154]

>>8728126
Hitscans are bad game design, anon! If I can't avoid all the damage, you failed as a game designer. Zig zagging, cover, and killing them before they shoot are not options.

[Anonymous No.8728171]

>>8728154
>dealing with the problem before taking damage is not an option for not taking damage
Doom's hitscanners are the most manageable out of all FPS games.

[Anonymous No.8728180]

>>8728171
You see, the problem with that is that I need to know where they are in advance. I need to be able to do it flawlessly on the first attempt or it's a bad game.

[Anonymous No.8728182]

>>8728001
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/127189-released-the-bikini-bottom-massacre/

ContrastSaturation, I'd imagine. I found his thread on doomworld.

>>8728036
No prob.

>>8728135
I played it on GZDoom. Can't speak to other ports. Try them yourself and get back to us.

[Anonymous No.8728249]

>>8728182
thanks, I'm just putting it in a little text file in case I ever need to share it
>thread mentions it popped up on IGN's youtube
thank you normalfags, as usual, for ruining everything

[Anonymous No.8728313]

>>8727941
We're still going. Come on down, there's cake!

[Anonymous No.8728453]

Think we'll ever win a cacoward?

[Anonymous No.8728461]

>>8728453
People from here have won them but collectively? Not likely.

[Anonymous No.8728490]

Still going strong

[Anonymous No.8728506]

>>8727414
Doomworld is pretty much reddit. Duke forums are full of boomers.

[Anonymous No.8728550]

>>8728453
depends on if there's anyone /vr/-friendly on the awards team, and even then it's unlikely because I'm sure some of the people on there would have a fucking panic attack at the idea of giving "le evil racist/sexist/whatever 4chins" any praise

[Anonymous No.8728559]

>>8728313
I wish I could've, but I'm on vacation with no computer. Cheers homies.

[Anonymous No.8728580]

>Unreal, HL1, and SiN all have their 25ths next year
I predict Epic will do nothing until reminded at the last minute, whereupon they will shit out a couple of Unreal-themed Fortnite skins, not even so much as a UT4 patch; Valve will run a big Half-Life sale and might patch some stuff; and SiN Reloaded will be delayed.

[Anonymous No.8728589]

>>8728453
Why would we want to at this point?

[Anonymous No.8728595]

>>8728453
Don't care, I would rather just hold /doom/ awards and then award myself a Golden Boner.

[Anonymous No.8728601]

does brutal doom have mechs?

[Anonymous No.8728640]

>>8728601
no, but there's an addon for HDest that adds them

[Anonymous No.8728642]

>>8725824
Someone uploaded a huge collection of converted textures for Serious Sam mapping.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10n2GrJ-LrB7Az1aw4fstZUviC8uN5XfD/view?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.8728649]

>>8728453
>>8728461
Kekkr 2 or NIGGUR will do it somehow, trust the plan.

[Anonymous No.8728653]

>>8727941
For posterity's sake, here's vr9years.wad
https://allfearthesentinel.net/zandronum/download.php?file=vr9years.wad

[Anonymous No.8728670]

>>8728601
Pretty sure it has a tank. Close enough?

[Anonymous No.8728681]

>>8728670
A tank is like a mech but not retarded.

[Anonymous No.8728693]

>>8728681
tanks are boring though

mechas are like medieval knights but way bigger and also way cooler than tanks

[Anonymous No.8728739]

if brutal doom on nightmare difficulty is actually canon then how would you imagine doomguy would actually go through these levels? (brutal doom is john romero approved btw)

[Anonymous No.8728763]

What's your favorite ribbiks map

Hard mode: burj khalifa not allowed

[Anonymous No.8728776]

why is everyone here stuck in 1995?

https://youtu.be/cBbstXiVO4g
get with the times

[Anonymous No.8728779]

>>8728776
Man. Doom EXP sucks.

[Anonymous No.8728781]

>>8728653
A+

[Anonymous No.8728791]

>>8727941
First time in a long time I was able to attend one of these and damn that was fun even though I suck
Happy Birthday!

[Anonymous No.8728856]

>>8725819
https://vocaroo.com/1aGB085VsImh

[Anonymous No.8728863]

>>8728791
someone should add the cyberrunner to vrskins of it's not already.
I would but I don't know how.

[Anonymous No.8728867]

>>8728601
It does, actually. I'm not sure if it's just in EDay, but it does have them.

[Anonymous No.8728903]

>>8727941
God damn, you managed to clear the set 3 times. That's 108 consecutive matches. This is without a doubt one of the longest FNF's yet, and it couldn't have occurred on a better day. I'll leave the server going for any late joiners or Euros that want to repopulate it.

[Anonymous No.8728908]

brehs...I'm in Doom 1 E4M1
I got trapped in a box trying to excape the 4 Barons of Hell
Is this escapable, or one of Doom 1's ebin "lol restart now" moments, or a bug?
pls help

[Anonymous No.8728920]

>>8728908
yeah you fucked up

[Anonymous No.8728921]

>>8728920
lmao thought so

[Anonymous No.8728927]

>>8728908
Episode 4 is full of that kind of troll shit

[Anonymous No.8728930]

>>8728863
cyberrunner?

[Anonymous No.8728945]

>>8728927
dam
also throwing 4 barons in with no ammo is all well and good... but I guess they don't even damage each other with their missles? dumb design

[Anonymous No.8728959]

>>8728945
Monsters of the same species can't damage each other with projectiles, thus they can't infight. It's different when they're hitscanners though.

[Anonymous No.8728965]

>>8728959
make one destroy a barrel that damages other monster and you will see interesting results.

[Anonymous No.8728993]

>>8728959
note the knights and barons should be able to infight by the baseline rules, but a hardcoded exception was written for them
also I think while the archvile can aggro like normal all monsters are hardcoded to not return the favor
that's all DOOM2 shit so doesn't matter much in E4M1 but I think it's neat

[Anonymous No.8729001]

>>8728776
Man, no wonder so many zoomers have ADHD if this is the kind of shit they watch

[Anonymous No.8729057]

Is it feasibly possible to make decorative flames via archvile infighting against a thin wall?
I was spitballing something like
>player crosses linedef
>out of bounds voodoo doll is revealed to some random trash mob at an angle that guarantees a hit on the archvile
>doll is quickly hidden to prevent player damage, two dopes are teleported to the desired location
>vile casts majicks on the sacrifice, player can see flames either through fake wall trickery or lighting
>once show is over crush all involved
sounds overcomplicated, filled with breakpoints, inconsistent, and not at all worth the effort
but you can say you did a cool looking thing on the doom engine and that's all that matters
I should really just git gud at making maps normally before I skip to the autistic nigger rigging

[Anonymous No.8729071]

>>8728930
Ye olde /vr/ wad

[Anonymous No.8729079]

>>8729071
https://github.com/TerminusEst13/cyberrunner
Jesus, I forgot this was even a thing. RIP.

[Anonymous No.8729120]

>>8729079
It was a fuckload of fun. But eventually broke zandronum.

[Anonymous No.8729126]

>>8729120
It's a term mod so no surprise there.
As for making it a skin, I just checked the player sprites and it doesn't look like he has any firing sprites, so that's a no go.

[Anonymous No.8729209]

>>8726918
>"vanilla"
it's actually UDMF
>map01
it's actually map32
Anon what the fuck are you smoking?

[Anonymous No.8729220]

>>8729209
Interesting strategy to get more people to download it.

[Anonymous No.8729241]

Thoughts on Dimension of the Past and Dimension of the Machine?

[Anonymous No.8729242]

does anyone one have any requests for wall textures, I can make some

[Anonymous No.8729326]

>>8729241
Dopa is a fun challenge episode to send off Quake. I only played a little bit of Dimension of the Machine, but it was equally as challenging and much prettier; felt like a nice way to bring Quake back, but I'm just not interested in finishing it and I can't quite figure out why. I'm far more interested in the upcoming Mjolnir, so I reckon I'm just bored with the vanilla Quake enemy roster.

[Anonymous No.8729350]

>>8727545
bummer about nbabs, but having noclipped through smej2 finale I'm not gonna judge someone for skipping platforming. she did beat rastr with a handicap though.
>>8729241
dopa is bland but very consistent, old-school and with ballsy ammo economy.
dotm is all over the place but ambitious and definitely worth playing. fav map is e5m2 (runic dig site), up there with my all-time favorites. fav theme is e3 (rtcw-looking bunkers), fav pacing is in e1 (sewers).

[Anonymous No.8729401]

>>8727353
I hate what they did to it in later games. SE1 was great, but the modern versions are deep arcane shit with extremely convoluted interface, scripting and lack of documentation.

[Anonymous No.8729507]

>>8729057
I don't think monsters would ever attack voodoo doll on purpose.

[Anonymous No.8729541]

>>8728453
Only fags care about cacowards.
I remember during 2048 when there was at least one sperg who wanted everything to be PERFECT because he saw 2048 already getting an award.
I find that embarrassing. We are doing it for fun, not for fame. I still don't have a DW account.

[Anonymous No.8729583]

>>8728791
>every screenshot somebody eats a pineapple
Reminder that this mod is made for deathmatch first.

[Anonymous No.8729606]

Am I allowed to discuss Source mapping here, or is it only GoldSrc? I'm too old to keep up with what's trending as retro anymore.

[Anonymous No.8729628]

>>8729606
Technically anything released prior to 2008 is now fair game (never looked into how ongoing online games are treated though), but these threads are still mostly focused on 90's FPS games on PC with the odd mention of something like Deus Ex or Serious Sam here and there. But yeah, the likes of HL2 and TF2 would technically be 'retro', shit even UT3 and Crysis fit in before the deadline.

[Anonymous No.8729641]

>>8729606
>>8729628
/doom/ is for games released up to 2000, if you want an 00s fps thread then make one

[Anonymous No.8729642]

>>8729641
Since when?

[Anonymous No.8729646]

>>8729642
since the beginning. see >>8725819
>All other 90s FPS welcome

[Anonymous No.8729648]

>>8729642
>>8729646
btw we had a poll on whether to allow 00s games last year i think, the no vote was overwhelming

[Anonymous No.8729649]

>>8729646
yeah, and I don't read anything about banning FPS games between 2000 and 2007. It's a weird and specific window, and I doubt many would want to talk about games set within that timespan, but it's still a thing. It's no more egregious than when you get some of the boys here talking about Doom 4 and 5 which aren't even retro, for christ's sake.

[Anonymous No.8729654]

>>8729649
doom, build and quake engine games also belong to a "weird and specific window" that doesn't have much to do with stuff like halo or timesplitters. i mean, i don't mind to see these games discussed but the majority opinion was that it's not worth risking a slippery slope. >>8729648

[Anonymous No.8729657]

>>8729654
of course, this is a doom thread first and foremost. Always has and always will be. I just don't see a reason for anyone to get their tits in a bind if someone wants to try to discuss Source mapping. I doubt many here would engage with that anon, but more power to him for trying.

[Anonymous No.8729664]

Thoughts on Freedoom? I love the chaingun, way better than the original peashooter but knights and barons are a bit uhh

[Anonymous No.8729665]

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN! SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S THE TIME TO SHOW US WHAT YOU'VE BEEN UP TO.

[Anonymous No.8729668]

>>8729664
It's all over the place qualitywise, they've thrown out better assets than they have in it now and have refused stuff that's better than what is in.

Maps are pretty good though, I tore out all the non-map stuff and run it with Doom/Doom 2.

[Anonymous No.8729670]

>>8729664
i actually have it on top of my backlog, gonna get started after i finish Bloodstain this weekend

[Anonymous No.8729672]

>>8729665
>tfw haven't worked on shit for weeks because of work and OOOHHHH ELDEN RING
Next week...maybe...

[Anonymous No.8729680]

So, no Doom 3?

[Anonymous No.8729683]

>>8729668
>I tore out all the non-map stuff and run it with Doom/Doom 2.

Lol was thinking of doing exactly that
Actually already played double impact that way before I knew it was actually included in Freedoom 1

>>8729670
I love Bloodstain, was my first usermade WAD and it tore me a new asshole

[Anonymous No.8729685]

>PSX Doom 2 SSG
I just think it's neat.
Same for TNT.

[Anonymous No.8729690]

>>8729665
Game project is taking a slight break as i am working on a full on update to the pico mod, it is mostly a remix of the weapons so that you can put more use on them, make it more fun and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.8729702]

>>8728739
https://files.catbox.moe/y9jjxa.mp4
something like this honestly

[Anonymous No.8729705]

>>8728653
Fucking beautiful, happy to see my creation in it
This map has everything, Artie bartender, Niggur rune, toilet from forsaken stockades, leather club cyberdemon, rekkr romero, amazing work.
Im pretty sure babby or someone else mentioned plans for a similar but larger "/vr/city" hangout map some time ago

[Anonymous No.8729742]

Is mapping for post-Quake id games much different from Quake itself? Can I apply my brush skills to create something for Quake 2 or Doom 3?

[Anonymous No.8729747]

>>8729350
>I'm not gonna judge someone for skipping platforming
It wasn't just skipped, the platforming wasn't even discovered. It pains me to imagine having so little spatial awareness.
Also I've begun to suspect that that's not a she.

[Anonymous No.8729752]

>>8729742
Quake 2 is basically 99% the exact same thing as Quake 1. Doom 3 has shaders and curves and shit that you'll need to learn about, but it's not too distant. I don't think Trenchbroom supports a lot of its features yet though.

[Anonymous No.8729769]

>>8728776
>thought I was gonna watch the call of dooty video
>get something worse

[Anonymous No.8729779]

>>8729126
>he

[Anonymous No.8729785]

>>8729665
tren

[Anonymous No.8729854]

>>8729785
is this the crate maze map?

[Anonymous No.8729876]

>>8729648
>>8729649
I've seen a few attempts at post-2000 discussion; while I'm not against the idea, from the looks of it most of the posters don't have enough to say about the games for allowing them to be a hill worth dying on.
There doesn't seem to be much modding material to make a "So You Wanna Play Some Halo" sort of image, for example.

[Anonymous No.8729882]

>>8729779
>has

[Anonymous No.8729913]

>>8729876
I think most of us can agree that there are some post-2000 games that are firmly rooted in 90s design principles and are worthy of disregarding the cutoff point to discuss. A half-dozen Quake 3 engine games come to mind.
I wouldn't extend this to the current 'boomer shooter' trend/grift though, unless something is literally running on an engine from the 90s. Even then it's iffy.

[Anonymous No.8729914]

>>8729854
a crate maze is a part of it

[Anonymous No.8729937]

>>8729913
the sensible hard cutoff is around 2004, when multiplat console-first shooters became the norm and level editors went extinct. but by then Sam and Painkiller were already seen as throwbacks, so in practice 2000 works just as well.

[Anonymous No.8729992]

>>8729752
>Quake 2 almost identical
>Doom 3 has some new shit
Thanks, I assumed it'd be like that.
>I don't think Trenchbroom supports a lot of its features yet though.
I found a TB fork for Doom 3: https://github.com/RobertBeckebans/TrenchBroom
At first I thought it's for BFG Ed. only, but thankfully vanilla's supported too.

[Anonymous No.8730021]

>>8729876
>There doesn't seem to be much modding material to make a "So You Wanna Play Some Halo" sort of image, for example.
There’s also currently a Halo thread and it’s absolutely miserable.
I’m seconding the other recent sentiments here pointing to a few post 2000s releases before things started to dip for the worse four years later.

[Anonymous No.8730048]

>>8730021
To be fair that's not even a proper thread about Halo; when the OP is saying a game is bad there's no reason to expect anything good to come of it.

[Anonymous No.8730065]

>>8729401
you can pretty much say the same about SE1, just with a less convoluted interface
I might make a few video tutorials sometime for SE1 because of this

[Anonymous No.8730110]

>>8729779
>>8729882
He has no beta
He has no testers
This mod was left to fester

[Anonymous No.8730130]

>>8729507
yeah, that is an issue
maybe something with telefragged barrels? I gotta figure something out

[Anonymous No.8730143]

>>8729646
It used to say retro FPS, but got changed to 90s when the rule change hit. I don't really mind 2000s FPS being allowed here though, since nobody even wants to discuss them. The exceptions are Sam and Deus Ex, but those were always considered "honorary retro" anyway.
>>8729209
You did not download the right map at all lmao
>>8729705
Thanks anon, I'm glad somebody noticed the Violent Rumble reference. It's still not as good as it could have been since it was made in one day. There was a lot I wanted to fit in, including the minutes of /vr/, HUH, a scathing mockery of chop for not finishing 94 protons, among other gameplay mods, but didn't have the time for. For the 10th anniversary, I'll make something truly all encompassing.
As for /vr/city, there's been a few of ideas surrounding that. Charcola brought up the idea of a /vr/ HQ akin to multiplayer clan maps on an SNS once. Me and mozza liked the idea so we started spitballing ideas. We thought about having it being set in a city where you could see the other generals of /vr/ as separate buildings. Mozza even had plans to add a news board that would display new posts from the thread in real time, but he's long gone now. I still want to do /vr/ HQ, but not with him out of the picture.
There was also an idea of a city map where each anon would get a plot of land to build on, similar to patchwork, but I don't see that get talked about very often.

[Anonymous No.8730250]

>>8729876
/v/ now loves Halo

[Anonymous No.8730324]

>>8729541
It was naive of him to think, 2048 was pretty good for being largely a newbie mapjam, but that still leaves it as a newbie mapjam, and those are what they are.

I had fun and learned a lot, that's what matters.

[Anonymous No.8730391]

Based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyFMVlnh70c&feature=emb_title

[Anonymous No.8730479]

has anyone ported rat.wad to fucking zandronum?


Script error, "RAT.wad:DECORATE" line 201:
Invalid state parameter a_startsound

[Anonymous No.8730536]

What's the best 1997 fps?

[Anonymous No.8730559]

>>8730479
Might be buggy, never played the mod, but it starts now. Mostly I just find+replaced decorate actions for older equivalents.
https://files.catbox.moe/hcc44j.wad

[Anonymous No.8730582]

>>8730559
launches now but the shotgun (rat cross) sounds overlap and repeat

[Anonymous No.8730590]

>>8730143
>a scathing mockery of chop for not finishing 94 protons
It's coming along, maaan! I'm switching computers, which takes a while, I have a few hundred gigabytes to transfer.

[Anonymous No.8730608]

>>8730582
Here, I've already spent too long on this, but it should actually work now.
https://files.catbox.moe/4hg6i4.wad

[Anonymous No.8730612]

>>8729665

[Anonymous No.8730616]

>>8730608
thank you so much

[Anonymous No.8730641]

>>8729785
>DANTE
hel tren

[Anonymous No.8730663]

How Coco Demon can opens doors?!??!?!

[Anonymous No.8730672]

>>8730143
>nobody even wants to discuss them
Don't jinx it.

[Anonymous No.8730673]

>>8730612
Doesn't look like Ronald is lovin' it.

>>8730663
They have really long and dexterous tongues.

[Anonymous No.8730678]

>>8730663
>Smush face into door
>Roll backwards, pushing the door up
Really though the dangly bits on the bottom are tentacles.

[Anonymous No.8730681]

>>8726406
>>8726427
3 When?

[Anonymous No.8730691]

Let's talk about FEAR is the best Monolith game

[Anonymous No.8730732]

>>8730663
magic

[Anonymous No.8730735]

>>8730143
>I don't really mind 2000s FPS being allowed here though, since nobody even wants to discuss them
Speak for yourself, I want to talk about STALKER

[Anonymous No.8730771]

>>8730663
He uses the door handle.

[Anonymous No.8730774]

>>8730735
why? it's not good without mods

[Anonymous No.8730825]

>>8730774
you take that back
Shadow of Chernobyl is a fucking masterpiece
a janky masterpiece, but a masterpiece nonetheless
as an apology for the derail here's something somewhat thread-relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBa9B-j-__A

[Anonymous No.8730835]

>>8730774
defrag your mind

[Anonymous No.8730840]

>>8730663
dey flap dey asscheeks

[Anonymous No.8730846]

>>8730663
Extending prehensile eyestalk.

[Anonymous No.8730870]

>>8730673

[Anonymous No.8730873]

>>8730663
what do you think they use the hole for

[Anonymous No.8730879]

>>8729583
It's better with appropriately scaled maps for the player count, but when you pack 8-16 people into 2 or 4-player maps with SSGs on spawn, you can win just by picking Ranger and holding your fire button until you die or run out of rockets.

[Anonymous No.8730880]

>>8730663
Moving enemies will always try to interact with doors. The door is operated if their collision box intersects with the door sector AND the door has a proper ID set.

[Anonymous No.8730883]

>>8730873
>you never see caca on the concrete despite their considerably conspicuous 2 foot circumference Caco cloaca
good point desu
wonder what imps use theirs for

[Anonymous No.8730886]

>>8730883
>wonder what imps use theirs for
If HDest is anything to go by, they hide pistols in there.

[Anonymous No.8730897]

>>8730612
what is this

[Anonymous No.8730909]

>>8730870
Ronnie looks like he's about to haymaker some poor fool.

[Anonymous No.8730918]

what time is saturday night shitshow

[Anonymous No.8730990]

>>8730883
I figure it was just a time limitation, and they may have implemented Cacoturds if they were bored enough.
Doing it with GzDoom or even just DeHacked with the original .exe would be fairly straightforward.

[Anonymous No.8730993]

>>8725819

[Anonymous No.8731014]

>>8730993
what

[Anonymous No.8731017]

>>8731014
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=66042
Typing of the Dead doom mod, basically.

[Anonymous No.8731034]

>>8730918
In about 24 hours.

[Anonymous No.8731042]

>>8731017
neat

[Anonymous No.8731057]

>>8729541
Was this the same principle behind people wigging out that the mappack was called "faggot maps"?
If normalfags like something out of here god bless, and I get wanting your work to be enjoyed by more people, but if you become the faggots just to try and get normalfag attention you're forgetting the spirit of modding

[Anonymous No.8731065]

>LE DOOM 2D!? thread in catalog
notto dissu shitto again
why is this retarded meme so persistent?

[Anonymous No.8731076]

>>8725819
just upgraded to a 12700, which means it's time to play 20 year old games.

any recommended WAD packs other than those in the OP?

[Anonymous No.8731079]

>>8731076
HFFM

[Anonymous No.8731084]

>>8731076
Hell yeah, brother. I'm in the process of transferring all my shit to my new computer, can't wait. Also that's a 28+ year old game, and it's only gotten better with time.

For wadpacks, I don't know of any to recommend, but if you want to go through a sampler of notable stuff, you can page through Doomworld's Cacowards from over the years, not all of it is actually that good, but much of what you see there is notable and well worth playing.

Beyond that, check out /doom/'s own .wads, like 300 Minutes Of /vr/, Hard Fast Faggot Maps, and Ad Mortem.

[Anonymous No.8731091]

>>8730110
good shit

[Anonymous No.8731101]

>>8731084
any time I upgrade stuff I always play emulators or retro games first even before new titles, still more fun than most new stuff anyways.

[Anonymous No.8731102]

>>8730678
I never noticed they had those the entire time, what the fuck. I thought the Doom 4 design made those up.

[Anonymous No.8731139]

>>8731101
For some advanced ports like GzDoom, greater hardware can actually confer some real performance improvements in some circumstances (typically with more advanced and detailed mods, particularly with more large and ornate maps).
For just classic Dooming though, any half decent machine from the past 25+ years can obviously run the vanilla games very well as is (and most Vanilla/Boom map packs), but hey, playing Doom on a brand new computer from the future is a bit like Christening a ship.

[Anonymous No.8731182]

>>8730143
>For the 10th anniversary, I'll make something truly all encompassing.
Going all the way back? That's a lot of shit to fit in.

[Anonymous No.8731185]

>>8731139
Always see how much more fps I get in things like Sunder or Nuts.

[Anonymous No.8731191]

So someone mentioned Bloody Steel to play with Ashes weapons, but what are some other good maps to play? And in lieu of Ashes monsters, what are some good monsters to pair with them?

[Anonymous No.8731202]

>>8731191
I haven't played with the Ashes weapon mod too much, but when I did, Rampancy was a pretty fun monster mod to pair with it.

[Anonymous No.8731227]

>>8731202
Oh yeah. You do fight robots infrequently in Fallout, so that works. Tech base maps with that old and abandoned feel would work great.

[Anonymous No.8731286]

is sigil good?

[Anonymous No.8731323]

>>8731182
Hell yeah. A celebration for an entire decade has to to have one hell of a send off. I've almost certainly forgotten about some things, but fuck man, I still gotta try.

[Anonymous No.8731353]

>>8730590
Relax, I didn't actually go through with it. Now you just have to wait for the 10th anniversary wad where the project still won't be out, and I'll do it then.
>>8730324
Comparing 2048 to HFFM, and then HFFM to Ad Mortem really puts into perspective how much better you boys got at mapping. Ad Mortem is some seriously high tier stuff.

[Anonymous No.8731403]

>>8729606
depends on who you talk to here,but keeping it pre-halo CE (and ideally pre-HL,but that doesn't apply here) is a good rule of thumb with these threads.
but the rules are not consistent,sometimes even nu-DOOM and stuff like DUSK is tolerated,sometimes HL is too new.

[Anonymous No.8731436]

>>8730897
it’s for a class pack, based on the ronald from mugen

[Anonymous No.8731442]

>>8729665
One of my big goals this year is to get into modding and mapping, so here's the beginning of my first big project: a six map WAD where I try to learn new GZDoom tricks every level until I git gud.

Here's my favorite / least favorite cell in the demon prison of the first level.

[Anonymous No.8731453]

>>8731353
I feel like my HFFM map was the least polished of the ones I've submitted for /vr/ projects.

[Anonymous No.8731458]

>>8731453
I find it hard to agree or disagree because I have no idea what maps you made.

[Anonymous No.8731465]

>>8731458
10 & 11 in 2048
15 in HFFM
01 in AM

[Anonymous No.8731474]

>>8731465
Huh? Temple of Flesh kicks an obscene amount of ass. Sure, it might not be as polished as the others, but it's got plenty of raw, unfiltered hard fast fun.

[Anonymous No.8731490]

>>8731474
I'm not unhappy with it, I just like Catacombover and Retirement Grease more.
Making Eggplant's outtakes take longer than the map itself is one of my favorite achievements in Doom mapping.

[Anonymous No.8731504]

>>8731442
How much is that Lost Soul in the window?

[Anonymous No.8731514]

>>8727817
Can somebody reupload this? Fileditch.com and Anonfiles dot com have a 15+ GB upload limit btw. No need for shitty temp uploads.

[Anonymous No.8731516]

>>8731286
>this fucking petty tripe again.

[Anonymous No.8731520]

>>8731465
>>8731474
was temple of flesh named after that BDSM club or is that just a happy coincidence?

[Anonymous No.8731521]

>>8731520
Happy coincidence. I just picked a name that sounded vaguely Hellraiser-esque.

[Anonymous No.8731525]

>>8731521
much like HFFM's name, the gods of this gym willed it
praise be to aniki

[Anonymous No.8731531]

>>8731323
Might be worth spreading it all out across a few maps. Maybe one per decade.
10 Years of /vr/ when

[Anonymous No.8731534]

>>8731531
>one per decade
fuck me
one per year... adding together to make a decade.
Or maybe one per two years, since some years are probably content light.

[Anonymous No.8731537]

>>8731531
We have a whole year of planning to barely miss the deadline for such a project.

[Anonymous No.8731538]

No seriously, reupload of >>8731514 plox.

[Anonymous No.8731543]

>>8731537
Now you're thinking like a community project manager.

[Anonymous No.8731563]

I tried Nashgore with Ashes and this is kinda excessive. I'm gibbing dudes with my crowbar and revolver, and roaches explode in a disproportionate amount of gore. Their blood and gore is properly colored, though. I guess it's like Fallout with Bloody Mess, but I never liked that perk in the newer games.

[Anonymous No.8731564]

>>8731531
>>8731534
I do have plans to split it across maps, but a little differently from what you're thinking of. I don't want to reveal too much. Though I will ask to refresh my memory on some of our lesser known projects and memes and whatnot, because there's most definitely something I've forgotten.
Haha, look at us, planning for the 10th anniversary when we just got done with our 9th. The after party's tomorrow, boys, same time as ever. See you there.
Captcha: KGSAN

[Anonymous No.8731580]

>>8731353
>Now you just have to wait for the 10th anniversary wad where the project still won't be out, and I'll do it then.

[Anonymous No.8731605]

>>8731580
Stop that kind of talk, sailor! This is war now, private! Another year? That's exactly what he wants you to think! This is no time to go lily-livered on us! He's trying to get you to crack, get inside your mind. You must stop at nothing, and I mean nothing, to get the project out before the year ends. Do I make myself clear? NOW GET BACK TO IT.

[Anonymous No.8731607]

>>8731516

i'm legitimately asking, i've never posted in one of these threads in my life
haven't played a wad since ~2005

[Anonymous No.8731610]

>>8731605
Ad Mortem took like 4 years to happen.

[Anonymous No.8731614]

>>8731607
Go play it for yourself, make your own opinion.

[Anonymous No.8731615]

>>8731610
Completely unrelated to the first halloween project attempt. The first one was repugnus. AM was vaeros. Quit making excuses and get back to work.

[Anonymous No.8731661]

>>8729665
Working on my map.

[Anonymous No.8731689]

>>8727817
>>8731514
Never mind, the original download link to The Bikini Bottom Massacre mod v1.3 still works lol.
https://www.moddb.com/downloads/mirror/229311/115/8bbc2da49cd6ca44bfd804e559de37c9

[Anonymous No.8731774]

>>8728776
Change the music to dubstep, and that would have easily been a pro mlg video.

[Anonymous No.8731790]

>Play Doom with explosions w/ unlimited vertical damage
>Shoot an enemy on the floor right below me

[Anonymous No.8731804]

>>8731790
Doom's lack of vertical checks in a few places is really one of those double-edged swords.
>you can't walk under cacos so they can trap you from above, but also that means that this group of cacos (or five meatballs) cannot cross over the group of pinkies down in front of them, which at times can be the only thing that stands between you and certain death
>explosions can actually reach you from distances that they maybe realistically shouldn't, but at the same time you can also reach monsters with your blast in the same way and actually exploit it rather extensively

The only one which doesn't go both ways is Pinkies being able to bite you in the foot from like 20ft below because you're technically standing next to him on that tall ledge. Makes me imagine a Pinkie dislodging its skull and extending its head far upwards to nibble your toes.

[Anonymous No.8731821]

>>8730880
That seems far fetched
I think they open it with their bungers

[Anonymous No.8731839]

>>8731804
I always feel clever when I can shoot a dude from above
fun vidya

[Anonymous No.8731868]

>>8731839
Me too. It isn't even all that unrealistic in many cases, if the space is tight and the walls aren't giving in to the explosion, that pressure still has to go SOMEWHERE, the rest of the time it can be handwaved as shrapnel.

[Anonymous No.8731903]

>>8729665
How many revenants is too many to kill with only a shotgun?

[Anonymous No.8731905]

>>8731903
That looks like a good number to me.

[Anonymous No.8731909]

>>8731903
Seems like there's reasonable space and cover to work with here.

[Anonymous No.8731946]

>>8731903
1 more

[Anonymous No.8732006]

>>8725892
if /vr/ and /s4s/ are both from 2013, what was the last board created when moot was still in charge of the site (not any of the new ones, don't give a shit about those)? /vip/, /lgbt/, /qst/?

[Anonymous No.8732084]

>>8731804
That's why I like Heretic more.
Shame there's less wads for it, most that are out there are GZDoom only, and the ones that don't have boring themes or shit encounters most of the time.
But honestly, almost everything that Doom does, Heretic improves upon:
>No infinite height bullshit
>Better/ more interesting boss enemies
>Tome of Power
>Shadowsphere
>Morph ovum
>Inventory in general
>All weapons have unique ammo types
>No hitscanners (more of a sidegrade as I personally like them)
>Keys always used in the same order
>No respawn on skill 5
>No "workhorse" weapon (crossbow is flat out worse than claw and wand in multiple scenarios)
>Also a sidegrade: no SSG and BFG, meaning that there are no slaughter maps incentives. OTOH both of those weapons are fun to use
>Wind, water, ice sectors
>Looking up and down
The biggest thing Doom has over Heretic is the archvile

[Anonymous No.8732091]

>>8732084
Also, forgot about flying

[Anonymous No.8732153]

>>8731790
>ride down lift
>aggro entire room
>ride up lift
>get off lift
>cross linedef to lower lift then quickly back up
>nuke all the demons that have now gathered on the lift before it even raises
>>8731804
Makes me imagine a Pinkie dislodging its skull and extending its head far upwards to nibble your toes.
apex jej
I will say when maps get WAY vertical I get absolutely sick of mono-layer stuff, turn off infinite height and bind a key to temp-freelook for some custom maps so I can deal with cacos hiding in the ionisphere or zombies still in hell blocking jumps on the surface

[Anonymous No.8732190]

Alas I missed out on the serious sam saturday today but I had my own version of it with a twist

[Anonymous No.8732216]

>>8732084
>meaning that there are no slaughter maps incentives.
Tomed Hellstaff and Claw could be fun slaughter weapons if anyone actually cared enough about mapping for Heretic for slaughtermaps to exist for it.

[Anonymous No.8732219]

>>8728601
yes it does
v21 at least has 4 vehicles
2 types of tracked vehicles (the cannon tank and the AA tank)
the mech with missiles miniguns and lasers
and the helicopter as well

[Anonymous No.8732269]

>>8732216
I agree, with Tomed Hellstaff especially you can get a lot of mileage in vertical maps.
I already posted about it once but Azure Fortress has these platforms with sabreclaws that are triggered to raise once you reach the end of the hallway, but you can use a Tome and rain hellfire on each platform, killing them before the platforms raise.
This is like using the rocket launcher infinite blast in Doom but the major difference is that in Doom it looks like an exploit and in Heretic it looks like a neat piece of immersive gameplay.

[Anonymous No.8732287]

>>8727746

[Anonymous No.8732301]

>>8729665
Returning to a project I started over a year ago. Gonna try to finish it in 30 days.

[Anonymous No.8732312]

>>8730065
Serious Editor/Egine 1 actually has a loooooot of documentation.
http://dmi-1407.bplaced.net/doc/pages/000%20Serious%20Engine%20SDK/

In particular, in the Serious Sam Revolution folder (which you have if you own either classic title on Steam) go to the Help directory to find a fuckload of tutorials and tips for working with Serious Editor 1. There is also a tutorial series on moddb:
https://www.moddb.com/games/serious-sam-the-first-encounter/tutorials

AND I have a whole collection of obscure tutorials from a decade or so ago that I don't remember where I got them. I'll upload them somewhere if I remember tomorrow. There's a true wealth of documentation for Serious Editor, it's just a touch too complicated for the majority of people.

[Anonymous No.8732317]

>>8731564
>Captcha: KGSAN
I'm apparently living in your walls.

[Anonymous No.8732372]

>try Project Brutality
>way too many enemies
>levels are changed and don't make sense now
>play normal brutal doom
>simple and fun
Why do they insist on fixing what isn't broken?

[Anonymous No.8732393]

>>8732372
That is why they let you disable any enemy variant, you know.

>levels are changed and don't make sense now
How do you mean?

Also, maybe try Schism if you wanna be a Sorcerer in Doom. It's pretty fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF3O3dm9ygg

[Anonymous No.8732419]

>>8732393
>how do you mean
It included a mod that added pointless extensions to levels. It was super annoying.

[Anonymous No.8732472]

>>8726196
>>8726276
>>8726537
>Doom is more visually appealing but less fun to map for
>Quake has Trenchbroom but I can't stand
GoldSrc just hits that sweet spot.

[Anonymous No.8732516]

>have incurable desire to make my own maps
>barely have time to even play anything
Life sucks

[Anonymous No.8732527]

>>8732516
>Life sucks
You forgot Half-

[Anonymous No.8732531]

>>8732216
Curse Of D'Sparil is one of most known Heretic mapsets and it's basically slaughter. I don't mean this in a bad way. I like slaughter and that mapset.

[Anonymous No.8732548]

Does Saints of Virtue count as a retro shooter? I've been fuckin tempted to rebuild this game as a doom wad simply because of how batshit it is.

[Anonymous No.8732589]

>>8732419
Do you mean Brutal Doom's level enhancer thing? Pretty sure you can turn that off, too. The newest version of PB doesn't have that anymore.

[Anonymous No.8732796]

>>8732372
I’ve never touched BD after PB and if I want “vanilla BUT” there’s newer and better options.

[Anonymous No.8732815]

>>8732312
I'd love to see that collection.
But the main issue is that text tutorials like this can only go so far. And unless I'm blind there's no huge compendium on each entity detailing every single property and how to use them.
Here's your average SED1 tutorial: https://youtu.be/OttNrwFhTQc
And then compare it to something like trenchboom: https://youtu.be/gONePWocbqA
Now I'm not expecting every single tutorial for an obscure retro shooter engine to be as detailed as this one, but there is clearly a wall of obscurity when it comes to SED1 tutorials. I wish to see that this wall is one day torn down because SED1 is a very robust tool that people are sleeping on.

[Anonymous No.8732963]

>>8732516
The final redpill(s) are making your own maps, then mods, then trying your hand at a real vidya. Creation is infinitely more rewarding than consumption.

[Anonymous No.8733136]

>>8728776
I watched like ten seconds of this, without sound, and found it extremely annoying.

[Anonymous No.8733156]

>>8727160
Make an underwater crate maze.

[Anonymous No.8733405]

I forgot how fucking obnoxious Windows 10 is until you spend a lot of time unfucking it. I want to die.

[Anonymous No.8733427]

>>8733405
you just download the thingy and disable literally everything (especially updates)
takes like 7 minutes and a restart

[Anonymous No.8733445]

>>8733405
Imagine switching PCs while leading a project, ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.8733472]

>>8728776
Hey look, it's like 75% of boomer shooter games in development.
I'm bored of rapidly cycling through weapons and enemies. I'd rather have some time to consider the environment or strategy. Not just follow some gameplay flowchart.

[Anonymous No.8733498]

>>8732216
Why haven't we made a heretic project? Something classy. With some more textures because heretic is quite lacking.

[Anonymous No.8733503]

>>8733498
We tried. It didn't go well.

[Anonymous No.8733518]

>>8733445
It's that or I'll be severely limited in what kind of work I can do. My old laptop has a pretty ratty keyboard, I suspect its lifespan was dramatically reduced when my dog knocked over a glass of water on it.

Besides, while my files are copying over, I can go play Plutonia on my PS4 to refresh my memory of it, which is something I must do anyway.

[Anonymous No.8733627]

>>8732516
>>8732963
This, creating/modding video games as a hobby is infinitely better than playing them as a hobby.
I did maps for three /vr/ projects so far and play almost no games, even doom I rarely have time to play outside of testing/fishing for inspirations
Terry Davis quote always comes to my mind: "Write games, don't play them!"

[Anonymous No.8733634]

>>8732548
of course, it's from 1999

[Anonymous No.8733642]

>>8733627
Generally agree, but I do think you have to play games to know what makes them fun, and what about them needs improvement in your estimation.
I play far less games now, but I still squeeze them in time-to-time. I play a lot of wads too, but I rarely finish them. When I make wads I try to make the levels more-and-more interesting (with varying success), because it seems to many of them start out strong and languish later.

[Anonymous No.8733651]

>>8733627
Except if you don't mod/develop everything that happens to you in video games is 'magic' and you might actually enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.8733689]

>>8733651
Modding and mapping lets you appreciate other peoples' development efforts in ways people who only play games can't even begin to understand.

[Anonymous No.8733716]

>>8728776
I laughed

[Anonymous No.8733720]

>>8728739
>if brutal doom on nightmare difficulty is actually canon then how would you imagine doomguy would actually go through these levels?
with the help of antidisestablishmentarianist aliens Sears and Roebuck of course!

[Anonymous No.8733749]

>>8733503
It only failed because the project lead randomly disappeared and nobody else stepped up. It had a few high quality levels made before it petered out.

[Anonymous No.8733757]

>>8733749
>nobody else stepped up
Honestly really pathetic.

[Anonymous No.8733875]

>>8733720
based

[Anonymous No.8733919]

>stalked constantly
>always anxious for when you're gonna bump into one, or two
>always worrying about getting cornered
>space is cramped and confusing
>there's no health until the end, assuming you pistol start or come in with good health, you can survive one, maybe two hits
It's been so long that I genuinely forgot that Hunted is a really tense and nerve wracking level.

[Anonymous No.8733920]

>>8733689
That's true, even if sometimes to a harmful degree, now when playing shit like Valiant or Sunlust I just have to stop and ponder on how those mappers come up with all these great ideas

[Anonymous No.8733928]

>>8733919
Imagine Hunted, but the remote walkover-activated doors look like the rest of the walls.

[Anonymous No.8734006]

YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS TO THINK OF A WAY TO FIX BARONS GO

[Anonymous No.8734012]

>>8734006
They throw 2 projectiles like Ad Mortem's Satyrs.

[Anonymous No.8734015]

>>8734006
Halve their HP and give them a different color, maybe tan or something, idk

[Anonymous No.8734019]

>>8729665
I am running out of ideas for this map. I keep building and building but i'm not feeling like i'm getting anywhere.

[Anonymous No.8734020]

>>8734006
Spam them relentlessly so that they are basically a wall spitting fire.

[Anonymous No.8734031]

>>8734019
Nice variety of colors.
Just add a couple more connections between the separate regions, itll instantly feel more interesting to explore.

[Anonymous No.8734035]

>>8734006
replace all doors with barons, players will be more engaged by having to fight through rather than simply press spacebar to progress

[Anonymous No.8734041]

>>8734006
they always attack at fastmonsters speed and can move while attacking but take 50% more damage from the single shotgun

[Anonymous No.8734117]

>>8734019
>I keep building and building but i'm not feeling like i'm getting anywhere.
wow, you map exactly the same as I do!

[Anonymous No.8734130]

>>8734117
depressing, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.8734141]

>>8734130
I should really plan out my maps ahead of time but that never happens. Everything I make is just me unleashing my stream of consciousness room by room until I burn out.

[Anonymous No.8734157]

AHHH SHIT, TIME FOR THE AFTER PARTY! SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME, let's play through some Reverie with a very special surprise mod. I have no idea if this is gonna run stably, but guess what? I DON'T CARE! LET'S GO
Connect with Zandronum
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

[Anonymous No.8734182]

I HATE WINDOWS 10 SO MUCH!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[Anonymous No.8734191]

>>8734157
EW, Jesus fucking Christ, not Reverie, whoever mapped that hunk of shit can go die in a car crash.

[Anonymous No.8734219]

>>8734157
wadseeker is telling me that Reverie was over 1 gb in size, I skip to the link and it's down to 30 mb. What gives?

[Anonymous No.8734224]

>>8734157
>1.04GB
see you guys in an hour

[Anonymous No.8734245]

>>8734141
my maps works like theme parks, nobody seemed to have noticed that yet, though.

[Anonymous No.8734248]

>>8734182

[Anonymous No.8734254]

>>8734245
Littered with trash and constantly breaking down?

[Anonymous No.8734264]

>>8734224
just right click on the download and press skip link

[Anonymous No.8734272]

>>8734254
>stones everywhere
>floors crashing down all the time
checks out

[Anonymous No.8734275]

>>8734264
that worked

[Anonymous No.8734297]

>start playing community chest 1 cause it's the only one in the doom quickstart folder I haven't played
>kinda bored, try it with expanded doom and didn't like it
>try it with Babel because I remember one anon about 10 threads ago say he can't play doom without it
>the game improves noticeably

[Anonymous No.8734328]

>>8734006
give them bfgs

[Anonymous No.8734337]

Dusk is overrated

[Anonymous No.8734347]

!

[Anonymous No.8734348]

>>8734157
Lmao I think I broke it.
Again.

[Anonymous No.8734349]

*** Fatal Error ***
Address not mapped to object (signal 11)
Address: 0x7fff3c717808

[Anonymous No.8734364]

>>8734297
Are you sure you can handle Magikal's magical realms? Good luck out there.

[Anonymous No.8734374]

>>8734182
Git gud at operating a computer.

[Anonymous No.8734512]

>>8734006
Health 750
+MISSILEMORE

simples.

[Anonymous No.8734603]

>>8734374
It helped to delete some bloatware like Microsoft OneDrive, which made file transfers slow as balls and also heats up the computer so that it constantly sounds like a jet turbine.

[Anonymous No.8734629]

>>8734603
>OneDrive
I just never put anything in it, so it just hangs around in the background.

[Anonymous No.8734636]

>>8734374
>>8734603
>>8734629
download O&O windows 10 shut up
thank me later

[Anonymous No.8734648]

>>8734629
It causes problems for some people.

>>8734636
I have that one lying around in my external drive, I'll be unpacking that stuff next I guess.

[Anonymous No.8734698]

I did an unfucking work on Led's Generic Weapon Mod
can anybody help me test it?
what I did was change all bullet weapons to use the same ammo
and made it that you spawn with both assault rifle and pistol
also did some minor adjustments do pistol assault rifle and mingun dmg per bullet and spread to balance
increased the rocket launcher magazine to 6 from 5
I zipped together another 2 minimods one is the additional crosshairs that come with brutal doom v21 and all brutal doom metamods
the other is a shameless rip of Trailblazer's custom mugshot packaged as standalone vanilla mugshot replacer
https://files.catbox.moe/cugtno.zip

[Anonymous No.8734780]

>>8732084
Heretic has some good stuff but it just felt boring compared to Doom. Maybe the weapons just didn't do it for me. Felt like a Doom mod by a slightly less genius team, for good and bad.
Still has better balance than most shooters though.

[Anonymous No.8734785]

>>8734780
forgot cute pic

[Anonymous No.8734798]

>>8734157
I'm tired

[Anonymous No.8734810]

>>8734798
Maybe the real Sunday Night Shitshow were all the demons we rammed in the ASS all along...

[Anonymous No.8734831]

>>8734810
The real SNS was the unanimous hatred for samsara "addons"

[Anonymous No.8734849]

>>8734831
amen

[Anonymous No.8734893]

>>8734831
>>8734849
Reincarnation for April Fool's?

[Anonymous No.8734901]

>>8734893
Why not Aeons of Death?

[Anonymous No.8734945]

are there any cosmic horror or similar themed wads worth checking out? I played Hyperion and it was good but unfortunately too short.

[Anonymous No.8734981]

>>8734349
Okay.

[Anonymous No.8735098]

>>8734945
Strange Aeons

[Anonymous No.8735105]

>>8733405
linux runs basically all retro shooters and UDB works with certain WINE versions afaik.
so just use that.
>>8733919
it really is,its a bit comparatively dull after beating larger megawads,but it can still pack a punch.

[Anonymous No.8735110]

>>8734006
cut their hp by a quarter and give em some sort of spicier attack so that they're more spicy, and in turn can infight with hellknights

[Anonymous No.8735138]

>>8734945
>>8735098
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about this: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/115453-dbp25-dead-but-dreaming/
Pretty neat Nightmare focused wad too

[Anonymous No.8735160]

>>8729541
I disagree with their motivation, but I agree with the idea that we should properly test and bugfix /vr/ projects before releasing them. You should have pride in the work you do, and that includes doing it properly, even the bits that aren't fun (like testing).

[Anonymous No.8735173]

For /vr/ sounds
https://voca.ro/1cl0QO4ZHomD

[Anonymous No.8735184]

>>8732815
All yours and anyone's you share it with.
https://mega.nz/file/IUQFFKoZ#ovq_k2FNgl_VJ6wLZanPVcX0h9EktvaYzedzvHQfDA4
>I wish to see that this wall is one day torn down because SED1 is a very robust tool that people are sleeping on.
I admire your passion. Be the change you want to see anon.

[Anonymous No.8735267]

I know Far Cry 1 is kind of new to stay completely on topic but... FFS the gameplay is such a mess. I don't get how they didn't look at all the games from the decade before that mixed hitscan/near-hitscan and monster enemies.
I guess year 2000 - ~2010 had a lot of dumb shit going on with shooters and this could be applied to a lot of almost-good games

[Anonymous No.8735341]

... and now, for the porn.

[Anonymous No.8735365]

>>8735098
>>8735138
these look based thanks

[Anonymous No.8735386]

>>8735341
Oh god, he's gonna be at it for weeks!

[Anonymous No.8735529]

how the fuck do you make HDR work in gzdoom?
I have windows 11 and an HDR screen, enabled HDR and auto HDR in windows settings and in game I selected vulkan render and then enabled HDR in game and proper cant see shit
has anybody figured it out?
picrelated is what I see when I enable HDR in game as well
like, what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.8735531]

>>8735386
who???????

[Anonymous No.8735567]

>>8734636
O&O is great but Windows becomes bipolar and starts threatening you by stopping updates, offering some and then repeats the process and the updates are total crap that ruin the system now. I'd only use Windows for gaming at this point and not even keep anything important inside and disregard the botnet like constant need for verification to "stay legit" dlc type nonsense on a fucking OS and software of all things, ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.8735581]

>>8735529
Fiddle with exposure settings in the console

[Anonymous No.8735662]

>>8735531
me

[Anonymous No.8735668]

for /vr/sounds
https://voca.ro/1nGSmGhORN5D

[Anonymous No.8735705]

>>8735529
>HDR
nigga the fuck you need all that range for, the human eye can't even percieve more than 256 colors at once

[Anonymous No.8735712]

>>8735662
Oh, I thought it was Steve Jobs

[Anonymous No.8735719]

>>8735705
Will make the 256 colors feel more vibrant and his expensive monitor is used to max capacity

[Anonymous No.8735794]

>>8735712
Who the hell is Steve Jobs

[Anonymous No.8735796]

>>8735794
Ligma balls.

[Anonymous No.8735801]

>>8735796

[Anonymous No.8735847]

Legitimately blows my mind this game existed. I knew it was obscure, but I feel like I'm genuinely the only kid growing up that had nothing but this game. If i can figure out how to get the assets into a WAD pack, I'll rebuild the whole thing for Doom deadass.

https://youtu.be/MNCr2u6Leng

[Anonymous No.8735898]

>>8735847
do it

[Anonymous No.8735909]

>>8735847
looking forward to seeing it anon, do your best

[Anonymous No.8735917]

>>8735847
>deadass

[Anonymous No.8735973]

>>8735581
how do I do that?
why doesnt in work by default?
graf too lazy and incompetent to make it work properly?

[Anonymous No.8735978]

bit late to the party but merry birthmas from a lurkfag. maybe i'll finish that damn map one of these days

[Anonymous No.8736052]

>>8735973
somewhere in console comands, dont remember exactly which

[Anonymous No.8736105]

>>8735184
cheers lad, this will help for sure

[Anonymous No.8736183]

>>>/wsg/4426273

Feeling pretty good about this.

[Anonymous No.8736187]

>>8732548
Do it. That game looks hilariously awesome.

[Anonymous No.8736208]

>>8735917
I hope he's alright.

[Anonymous No.8736214]

Is there any guide on how to convert Blender models with animation into MD3 format for GZDoom? I mean what plugins to use, how to do frame names and so on - the whole process?

So far only thing I found was model->sprite conversion and that's not it.

[Anonymous No.8736236]

>>8736187
>>8735898
>>8735909
Fuck it, I'll play around in DB2 and see if I can get the opening hub area made. I was torn for the longest time between rebuilding it as a Doom WAD, or a HL1 mod, but the WAD route seems simpler. What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.8736326]

>>8736208
Who is that guy in the pic again? I forget.

[Anonymous No.8736345]

>>8736183
G

[Anonymous No.8736665]

>>8735529
Use reshade faggot

[Anonymous No.8736724]

>>8736236
do it

[Anonymous No.8736850]

>>8736724
I want to, but I'm running into a big problem, asset wise: pic related is what shows on the disk, and I have no fucking idea what the file this motherfucker used to hold all the assets. I could begin building out the level anyways, and just drop in the textures/enemies after the fact, but that's a gamble.

[Anonymous No.8736886]

>>8735978
I can hear this image

[Anonymous No.8736951]

>>8736850
Install the game so it's unpacked first. That setup.1 or the install.pkg file is probably what you want to get into.

[Anonymous No.8736980]

>>8736951
I can do that just by mounting the iso? I didn't think that would work.

[Anonymous No.8736984]

>>8736951
>>8736980
Ah well.

[Anonymous No.8737036]

I want to make a chaingun/minigun weapon that spins its barrels without firing if the player lets go of the mouse before a certain amount of time. Problem is, I'm a dumb ape who just looked for existing examples to copy from because I hardly understand what I'm doing. I have a Fire and Hold state, but a quick press still causes a single bullet to be fired

[Anonymous No.8737067]

>>8737036
Add A_ReFire to the last state of Fire, and a Goto Ready after the last state of Fire, because the way it currently is the Fire state always goes into the Hold state

[Anonymous No.8737176]

Is there any way to get custom decorations to show up in Doom Builder X so you don't have to memorise the numbers?

[Anonymous No.8737190]

>>8734945
Not cosmic horror, just horror, but Unloved is best horror wad I've played. Sure it has creepy atmospheric sections, and hub structure, but the gameplay itself is pure doom and hard in a good way. Disclaimer: it gets full slaughter towards the end.

[Anonymous No.8737210]

>>8736984
Probably a 16-bit installer refusing to work on 64-bit OS. Will Setup run in. DOSBox, or does it require Windows?

[Anonymous No.8737238]

>>8737190
>Unloved
Also doubles as a gateway to Aphex Twin.

[Anonymous No.8737239]

Reminder that is your duty to bully the Avali into enlisting in the UAC.

Also it's a turkey so roast it for thanksgiving.
Kudos for nailing the Doom 64 Marine feeling with this armor though.

[Anonymous No.8737292]

>>8735847
Someone explain how having map overlay on top of first person makes absolute sense in my brain and makes things clearer instead of more cluttered.
Did Jesus design us to play vidya? Do I have brain damage from vidya?

[Anonymous No.8737306]

>>8737210
It requires Windows. As far as I can see, thwse assets aren't accessible. Gives me some time to decide between Doom and Half Life for the engine I guess, but I'm heavily leaning towards Doom purely for simplicity sake.

[Anonymous No.8737310]

>>8737067
: )

[Anonymous No.8737314]

>>8737292
>Someone explain how having map overlay on top of first person makes absolute sense in my brain and makes things clearer instead of more cluttered.
No clue. The option has been in ZDoom for a long time. I think Turok was the first game I ran into doing it officially.

[Anonymous No.8737317]

We see Mancubi every time we play Doom. But has anyone ever seen a Boycubus? This makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.8737324]

>>8736183
Very nice. I like how the right hand just hucks a bunch of fire balls, the sound is also really good.

>>8737190
I've played Unloved with a few different gameplay mods and it's pretty fun. Thinking of doing another run through with Ashes weapons. Not sure if there's any blurspheres for modkits, though.

[Anonymous No.8737334]

>>8737317
>take your kid to work day.wad

[Anonymous No.8737336]

>>8737306
I got you anon.

https://censoriousidler.com/posts/saints-wrs/

[Anonymous No.8737346]

>>8737306
>>8737336
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=23305&hilit=ack

I got ya one better, this has all assets for most acknex engine games unpacked, no need to worry about that troublesome .wrs file format

[Anonymous No.8737359]

>>8737346
Holy fucking shit, I didn't expect this. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.8737368]

LEARN!

[Anonymous No.8737390]

>>8734019
Stop before magnum opus syndrome. Focus on a part of the level, build around it and go from there. Split off the rest and make a new level from it.

[Anonymous No.8737392]

>>8737239
Fuzzy doesn't post here, so I'll relay his words. He says he's impressed that you even found that image. He also appreciates that somebody recognized the Doom 64 influence.

[Anonymous No.8737394]

>>8737368
>hazard strip on the 64 mancubus guns
That’s so dumb. Is there a sprite edit of this already before I start on it myself?

[Anonymous No.8737410]

I am not starting 25 Frags yet to make room for 94 Protons. However, I would like some input. The 32in24 WADs are usually made by creating barebones layouts first, and then having a second team detail them later while preserving the gameplay as faithfully as possible. This seems like a good approach for our own project, so how would you feel about the project being divided into two phases? One where we create basic layouts and refine the gameplay, and then a second where we detail them?
>>8737368
Mancubussy

[Anonymous No.8737417]

>>8737314
>Turok
Turok 2 has some crazy levels so that's a good place for it to get implemented

[Anonymous No.8737420]

>>8737368
what exactly is this dumb shit?

[Anonymous No.8737423]

>>8737410
Would people detail their own maps after they make the layouts, or would people detail each other's maps? There's not really a "team" structure in place here. Either way, it's a tried and tested method to make good DM maps, so I'd be on board.

[Anonymous No.8737428]

>>8737423
I'm leaning toward letting people detail their own maps once they got a layout nailed down.

[Anonymous No.8737434]

>>8737423
Swap it up, you get somebody else's map to detail. It'll be fun!

[Anonymous No.8737440]

>>8737420
special education

[Anonymous No.8737467]

>>8737417
Turok 2 also gets credit for the idea of a first-person weapon wheel.

[Anonymous No.8737475]

Update on the Saints of Virtue WAD: I got the assets and jesus fucking christ, the devs didn't know sorting for shit.

It's packed into two folders, sound, and literally everything else in the other one. Every prop, every item, every texture, it's all a pcx file, and none of it is even named or sorted in a manner in which you can distinguish prop from texture. This is going to take fucking forever just to sort out and rename properly.

[Anonymous No.8737478]

>>8737467
interesting
I thought it was just added for the Remaster

[Anonymous No.8737479]

>>8737434
How would you feel about this? After the layout phase is done, anons are randomly assigned to detail them. It seems like a nightmare management-wise, but who knows, it could be fun.

[Anonymous No.8737489]

>>8737394
Chop, just stick to 94P, would ya?

[Anonymous No.8737493]

>>8737479
Seems like a recipe for disaster if anyone drops out after the layout phase, maybe people could have their own map to detail by default, but if we don't hear from them by a certain point they forfeit it to be reassigned to someone who's actively working on the project.

[Anonymous No.8737504]

>>8737493
That's what I mean by disaster management-wise, and it's exactly what happened with Ad Mortem. If people do drop out after the layout phase, then reassignment is a good option. Hell, I wouldn't mind doing it myself.

[Anonymous No.8737506]

For shits and giggles I made a Fallout 1 and 2 jukebox for Ashes. Couldn't decide on font color for for the info that displays so I just made them both different shades of green.

https://files.catbox.moe/2aam0r.pk3

[Anonymous No.8737510]

>>8737493
>>8737504
Maybe have it be an "opt-in" system where you swap with another anon looking to work on somebody else's map. Like a "secret santa" exchange but with unfinished doom maps! You would still be free to work on your map from start to finish if you'd like.

[Anonymous No.8737515]

just finished the entirety of episode one on nightmare with 100% secrets

wanna see the replay?

[Anonymous No.8737527]

>>8737515
no_

[Anonymous No.8737534]

>>8737510
That sounds like a good compromise to me. Guess all we need to do now is wait for 94 protons to finishnever eve

[Anonymous No.8737571]

>>8737478
Perfect Dark saw what it did and implemented the same thing: It is indeed the best way to handle tons of weapons and gadgets.
All moot for several years once shooting standards dictated you’d only carry a few weapons at a time.

[Anonymous No.8737589]

>>8736183
>Malefactors
Are you gonna update that as well or nah?

[Anonymous No.8737640]

what time is monday night madness?

[Anonymous No.8737651]

[Anonymous No.8737660]

[Anonymous No.8737664]

Burger man

[Anonymous No.8737665]

>>8737651

[Anonymous No.8737668]

I'm interested in playing some good looking cavern levels with nil breaches of sunlight, or just with any setting that mostly takes place underground -- like sewers. Please leave a suggestion if anything springs into your mind.

[Anonymous No.8737674]

>>8737665

[Anonymous No.8737685]

>>8737674

[Anonymous No.8737689]

>>8737664
Sick breakdancing moves.

[Anonymous No.8737695]

>>8737665
>>8737674
Pretty slick. Were you planning on some enemy upgrades as well, or was this mod just for the player end of things?

[Anonymous No.8737698]

>>8737685

[Anonymous No.8737706]

>>8736345
That's what I've been up to so far, you doofus. Though I've had a change of plans with the chainsaw slot weapon: Instead of a melee weapon I'm gonna give the player a deployable gun pod that'll sit there and shoot shit. I'm also going to give it a personality and make it cute.
The default set is gonna lose the dragon sword and have a deployable mini Past Linked Arti that'll run around and hit shit with his sword.

Cus you don't really need a melee weapon if all the guns have infinite ammo backup shots, you know?

>>8737589
Well I think Malefactors is in a pretty good place. I don't think that needs any major updates, other than maybe some more special death animations and balance tweaks.

[Anonymous No.8737723]

>>8737698
>>8737695
>enemy upgrades
Yeah. You get better weapons, so the enemies need to be tougher too. Different colored acolytes get different weapons, some of the spiderbots can fire a gun (vanilla Strife had the sprites for it, but were not used), etc.

[Anonymous No.8737726]

>>8737475
I believe in you anon. Do it for jesus.

[Anonymous No.8737730]

>>8737723

[Anonymous No.8737818]

>>8737668
I got inspired by Ultima Underworld and Arx Fatalis, so I'd also like to see how pretty things could be done with Doom engine.

[Anonymous No.8737902]

Nya

[Anonymous No.8737908]

>>8737664
Vrskins contender

[Anonymous No.8737950]

>>8737664
Are these poses from the MUGEN Ronald?

[Anonymous No.8737962]

>>8737950
Yeah. That's what I based them from

[Anonymous No.8737987]

recommend me a good weapons / character mod
I have played countless of them
recommend me something new but good

[Anonymous No.8737989]

>>8737902
is there a video guide on how to make doom sprites out of 3d models?

[Anonymous No.8737995]

>>8737989
I don't think there's a video, but Revae made an infographic for it. I also have this old post that helps with rotations
https://github.com/chronicleroflegends/DirectionalSpriteBatchRender

[Anonymous No.8738056]

What's peak quake deathmatch?

[Anonymous No.8738183]

>>8738056
Q1DM3

[Anonymous No.8738195]

I think Plutonia's Map 15 has the best use of the Spidermind of all official levels. He's up on this tall ledge you gotta get up to, but his big gun and huge hitbox does fantastic area denial here, if you rush with the BFG, he'll get you, and it's non-trivial to get a bead on him because he's flanked by two resurrecting Chaingunners (even worse, four on UV), and they can only be defeated properly by scaling that ledge and starting the crushers on the hidden Viles. Sure, he'll take fire from behind, which can give a window, but he cuts down most of those guys pretty quickly.

I actually can't think of a better vanilla use of this monster than this, and that's saying something because he's normally mediocre at best.

[Anonymous No.8738236]

>>8738195
That spider is so unmemorable it took me a while to know what you were talking about. I always run past it or nuke it after grabbing the invulnerability.

[Anonymous No.8738241]

>>8738195
>He
Anon...

[Anonymous No.8738276]

>>8738056
Q2DM1
Q3DM17

[Anonymous No.8738304]

>>8725824
Its out gentleman, Doom 64 Revenant
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=68009

All we need now is the Archvile that is the HR Giger Girl

[Anonymous No.8738394]

>>8738241
>HAS

>>8738236
I didn't find the invuln until afterwards. Also I forgot that getting up there tripped the crushers.

[Anonymous No.8738479]

>>8737660
>>8737664
>>8737902
neat

[Anonymous No.8738501]

Wow, I forgot how much of TNT is just endless waves of popcorn hitscan enemies. Its like they forgot the Doom 2 roster exists. This was solid fun when I first started playing Doom but now its fucking sleep-inducing.

[Anonymous No.8738503]

>>8738501
It's a good fit for Hideous Destructor if you're in to that sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.8738509]

>>8738503
But HD is boring if you're fighting nothing but hitscanners too. The demons are just as important as they are in vanilla Doom.

[Anonymous No.8738514]

>>8738501
>>8738503
I had a good time running through it with Elena from Samsara R, too. Can't deny it's fairly dull at base level, though.

[Anonymous No.8738521]

>>8738509
>>8738501
>can't even go the h-doom route since the guy copped out on hitscanners with imp recolors
truly unfixable

[Anonymous No.8738675]

I was on the internet today, and I found this.

I also found this, which involves Quake 3's Hunter and penii: https://files.catbox.moe/w34592.png

[Anonymous No.8738682]

>>8738675

[Anonymous No.8738684]

>>8738304
>Archvile that is the HR Giger Girl
What?

[Anonymous No.8738845]

>got all the textures and sounds from Saints of Virtue
>have to rename them all
>got Slade working
>never done any of this before but it all makes sense
It's gonna be a shitshow but I'm fucking doing it. For the time, you're gonna just run through the game as Doom Guy. I haven't decided yet how far I want this to go.

[Anonymous No.8738868]

>>8738845
Your autism is beautiful, anon. Godspeed.

[Anonymous No.8738875]

>>8738868
Thank you, thank you. What I'm mostly concerned with is the items. Saints had a very small item mechanic, complete with a 4 slot inventory, and you had to throw rocks to enable switches and shit like that. You also had to collect scrolls that contained Bible verses, for these doors that held mandatory switches/items. If this is going to be a completely faithful rebuild, I have to find a way to get that shit working, and I'm completely new to modding. I gave up doing Source shit purely for that reason.

[Anonymous No.8738945]

NEED NEW THREAD

[Anonymous No.8738961]

>>8738945
Make one, then.

[Anonymous No.8738970]

>>8738969
>>8738969
>>8738969
>>8738969
NEW THREAD

[Anonymous No.8739106]