fucking disc rot

[Anonymous No.8724096]

>learn about disc rot
>stop buying old disc based games entirely

fr tho iv lost 2 games to this shit already. I take care of my stuff much better than I did 10 years ago, but it's a big fear of mine.

How are you dealing with disc rot in ur collection? Are you digital/cart only now too?

[Anonymous No.8724107]

>fr tho iv lost 2 games to this shit already.
No you haven't

[Anonymous No.8724117]

>>8724107

Yes I have. I lost Opoona and Brawl.

[Anonymous No.8724141]

>>8724096
stfu, stop larping, I've never seen that in my life and its total bs. I guess that can happen, if you live in a 3rd shithole and you have ur collection outside in the rain

[Anonymous No.8724157]

>>8724117
Do you live in a sauna or something

[Anonymous No.8724159]

>>8724141
i'm glad it hasnt happened to you.

not fun at alllllll

[Anonymous No.8724172]

>>8724157

i live outside of nyc. normal, temprate conditions. my rotted games have boxes, and stay in them. if anything it gets dusty sometimes.

Opoona came in the mail fucked up and Brawl iv had since launch basically. it just stopped working

most of my gc games are fucked but thats def gamestop's fault for selling me shit discs

[Anonymous No.8724173]

>>8724096
>I lost 2 games to this shit already
Hence why you had to take a picture off the web instead of taking a picture of your own fucked up disks... what Cloud service are you selling today OP?

The only game I own that got destroyed overtime was Grim Fandango and it seems to be a known issue (got that backed up so it's not that bad). I still have a bunch of burned CDs from 20+ years ago in working order.

[Anonymous No.8724176]

>>8724172
I dunno OP. You might just live like some sort of swamp creature. Post disc pics

[Anonymous No.8724187]

>>8724096
I'm not having a problem with any of my discs but I've already had 2 CRTs implode on me due to tube rot.

[Anonymous No.8724190]

>>8724176

Opoona for Wii

The warping on the inner ring makes it unplayable.

[Anonymous No.8724234]

>>8724096
OP here fr fr no cap disc rot!! Aaah frfrfrfr lets all start selling our disc based games fir low prices while we still can frfrfrcapcap yikes!

[Anonymous No.8724294]

>>8724234
r u ok lol

[Anonymous No.8724305]

>>8724096
>Are you digital/cart only now too?
do you know these things can get corrosion and stuff like that right? I like how every emufag tells you "Uh lOl DisC RoT, PhySical Is DyIng" even tho harddrives, pcs and sd cards can rot too, thats just a retarded argument

[Anonymous No.8724315]

>>8724190
Bummer man. I have a shitload of PS1, Saturn, PCE CD and PS2, and Xbox games that work just fine still.
I don't see why I shouldn't enjoy them while they still work, especially since they are all likely to outlive me

[Anonymous No.8724352]

>>8724096
My solution is to basically just pirate everything

[Anonymous No.8724361]

>>8724096
>How are you dealing with disc rot in ur collection?
My games typically don't have it. I have a few with pinholes but those are ones I bought cheap without realizing they had them. That said, I've kept an eye on them and no new pinholes have appeared on them, lending more to them being top damage from mishandling. But even the worst ones I've checked against the redump rips and the checksums match due to all the redundant error correction in the formats.

Honestly the disc rot panic is over-exaggerated. Most of what people think is disc rot is actually top level damage from mishandling. Actual disc rot is rare and comes from a manufacturing defect. If your games haven't started to show it it in after 20+ years, they're not going to magically start rotting. Take good care of your games and they should outlast you.

[Anonymous No.8724398]

It’s just God’s way of punishing you coomlector faggots.

[Anonymous No.8724585]

>>8724315
I hope they do yo
In all likeliness i will probably get much more milage out of my disc based systems at some point. But I def don't like the prospect... Oddly enough my dreamcast games are holding up quite well. But we will see. Fingers crossed

[Anonymous No.8724645]

Thankfully, I haven't had any of my games rot. Of my hundreds of game discs, music CDs, DVD movies and blu-rays, only two blu-ray discs got the rot. One was the first issue of Walkabout and the other, the first issue of Blade Runner.

[Anonymous No.8724716]

This thread again.....

[Anonymous No.8724757]

>>8724096
I once left a disc on the windowsill in the middle of summer and spent 3 months overseas. When i got home i found it, completely ruined and looking like that. It was only portal 2 for the 360.
That said I was a teenager in the 90s. I didn't really look after my shit. I still have most of my discs from those days and NONE of them have "rotted." I'm not 100% sure that is even possible unless you're somewhere super humid or you leave your shit on the windowsill. CD's ain't gonna last forever, that's a fact, but keep the stuff you want to look after in it's case and you'll be fine for a while.

[Anonymous No.8724772]

>>8724757
live in california, hot as fuck 99% of the year except when its cold as fuck, never in my entire life once seen a disc with disc rot, have owned sega cd games since the 90s that are in the worst shape possible to still be playable, no rot.
I'm convinced its a meme + only happens to people that take the worst possible care of their shit.

[Anonymous No.8724783]

>>8724772
Agreed. I've got quite a collection from just holding onto my stuff. No intention to sell.
When the retro market started getting stupid i was worried about my discs after reading about disc rot and knowing I'd struggle to replace them if existing copies are dying and getting more expensive.
I checked every single disc, some scratched to absolute shit, some barely/never played and ZERO rotted. It's a meme for sure, or maybe some crap started by wata games to keep pushing the market higher. I wouldn't put it past them, bunch of dicks.

[Anonymous No.8724785]

>>8724757
Had a blu-ray rot on me. I live in a very dry place, but the rot was not due to weather - it was a manufacturers defect. The disc was recalled by the publisher. What got fucked up during the manufacturing process I do not know.

[Anonymous No.8724795]

>>8724783
As the times grow more dire and uneasy, people's bullshit continues to pile.
I just started getting into disc resurfacing with NOVUS, honestly cant believe how well it works if done right, and how easy it is to do it right. At WORST you may need to resurface discs that are kinda beat up, if you take care of your shit you have literally nothing to worry about.
..and even then, i mean, who's collecting expecting anything that isnt the fucking box and instruction manual to live longer than another 20 years max? everything has a lifespan. Thats actually a huge reason i advocate for the prices getting fairer and the thousand dollar games AT LEAST getting back down to the low hundreds, its absurd to treat gaming like a fucking furniture investment or something.

[Anonymous No.8724808]

>>8724795
It gets more stupid by the day.
I get the appeal of playing games on original hardware, i really do. If i play a ps1 game on a ps1 it's way more engrossing than emulating it, but there's loads of games i don't own a physical copy of but i probably have it on a 1TB SSD next to my PC because i sure as shit ain't paying $300 for an obscure title which isn't going to last forever anyway.
The retro market can honestly fuck off at this point, why bother. It's not an investment, it's a fucking game probably aimed at kids that came out on now obsolete hardware 30 years ago.

[Anonymous No.8724813]

>>8724785
What was the blu-ray of?

[Anonymous No.8724836]

>>8724096
Maybe you should act like an adult and wash your hands as well as putting your games away and not storing them in the sink.

[Anonymous No.8724863]

>>8724813
It was the Criterion release of Walkabout. It didn't have anything visibly wrong with it when the playback issues started. Out of curiosity I checked the disc again (now 8 years later) and it's a nice, golden brown color.

[Anonymous No.8724968]

>>8724863
But does it work? I demand answers.

[Anonymous No.8724981]

>>8724968
It freezes at exactly the 50 minute mark. I think that's when a layer change occurs. I can't even skip beyond that point.

[Anonymous No.8724991]

Not a thing, was probably made up by a very, dirty, gross person that doesn't take care of their discs. He found another equally dirty, gross person and then when you get enough of those dirty, gross people you can agree that it's something that happens and then you coin the term when it's actually just a dirty, gross person thing.

[Anonymous No.8725018]

>>8724294
What? you don't speak zoomer?

[Anonymous No.8725024]

>>8724808
My personal opinion is I won't buy if it's worth more than a modern AAA game. Not because modern games are good, but because I already avoid paying 60+ bucks for games that came out this year, why the fuck would I do it for a game old enough the original devs might be fucking dead?

[Anonymous No.8725032]

>>8725024
and with everything i said here >>8724795 i willingly picked up a complete near mint jap copy of symphony of the night, and even an NTSC.
I'm aware the discs WILL eventually degrade, but the jap came with a neat artbook and has the objectively better boxart, NTSC is easily runnable when i need to test ps1's + i just want to have it. I think i paid just under $150. No regrets, but still most games really should not hit that price range unless there's many factors, hell i'd say the JAP copy should be costing that given how much value you get with it complete with an artbook, ost cd, and just the novelty of the box.

[Anonymous No.8725080]

>>8725024
based take

[Anonymous No.8725092]

>>8725024
>>8725080
also my turbo autism sort of misinterpreted your point originally and i went on an autistic rant about paying a bit more for good classic games, but i agree completely with this take at least because the logic is perfectly sound, though there's honestly maybe another 2 or 3 games i'd want to spend more than $70 on again.
Like off the top of my head, God hand, De La Jet set radio, and thats it.

[Anonymous No.8725143]

>>8724305
harddrives, pcs, and sd cards can be cloned easily though. that seems like a pretty obvious counterpoint I'm surprised you missed it.

[Anonymous No.8725151]

I Cannot believe setting AE to tweaked medium in bethini just perfected my performance to quality ratio, i absolutely cannot tell the difference between ultra and medium

>too bad it cant perfect my ability to tweak enb's

[Anonymous No.8725613]

GUIS LOOK DISC ROT IS REAL AND NOT MEME

[Anonymous No.8725625]

>>8724096
I’ve never seen a game with disk rot. The only time I’ve ever seen disk rot was last year when I bought Futurama season 3 dvds off ebay. New, sealed in packaging. I think it was the fact that it was sealed that caused it? I’ve been buying a lot of used dvds and retro games and have had no problems with them.

[Anonymous No.8725631]

>>8724772
>california
>hot as fuck
>cold as fuck
California literally has the most temperate climate in the wold. Mild summers and mild winters. Perfect humidity levels outside the desert areas. Like bro you don’t even know how good you have it.

[Anonymous No.8725638]

>>8725613
oh no no no no no

[Anonymous No.8725647]

>>8724234
ayo fr he do be talk like dat doe nigga like daym

[Anonymous No.8725650]

>>8724172
fucking gamestop

[Anonymous No.8725980]

It only happends to burned disc because they use organic dyes.

[Anonymous No.8725995]

>>8724107
FPBP
>>8724096
Still waiting on that whole "disc rot" thing here. Games I've had since the early 2000s and the worse they have is scratches from regular play. What's up with that, you dumb faggot?

[Anonymous No.8725998]

>>8725143
you can make cd rs too retard

[Anonymous No.8726002]

>>8725613
MOOOODS

[Anonymous No.8726032]

>>8724096
I've never actually seen this happen, I've got discs from the late 80's that other than some fine scratches here and there look new. Could it be caused by certain environmental conditions? Excess moisture?

[Anonymous No.8726081]

>>8726032
>Could it be caused by certain environmental conditions? Excess moisture
yes, too much humidity basically. I always have a humidity gauge next to my collection, you should do the same anon

[Anonymous No.8726082]

>>8724172
>New York
Ayy yo fahgeddabahdit. Fucks a matta you?
MA! I WAN A MEAT BALL PAHM

[Anonymous No.8726087]

How come my CD's from the 90's are all still minty fresh, look and play fine?

hmmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.8726134]

>>8724096
More and more I'm thinking of selling off my games before this shit happens to me

[Anonymous No.8726154]

>>8724190
Doesn't look like anything from the OP image and seems to be a different issue entirely.

[Anonymous No.8726167]

>>8725613
Not my copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga!

[Anonymous No.8726330]

>>8725998
sure but it's obviously easier to copy a digital library than individually duplicate CDs, especially if there's DRM. I'm not even arguing against you. just pointing out your clear refusal to use your brain.

[Anonymous No.8726340]

I've lost precisely one game to this issue. The data layer just stopped being readable, I don't know why.

[Anonymous No.8726358]

>>8726330
but its better to play on realhardware

[Anonymous No.8726375]

>>8726081
Hygrometers are fine, but real men also use dedicated dehumidifiers.

[Anonymous No.8726378]

>>8726375
too noisy

[Anonymous No.8726385]

>>8726358
uaually better to play on modded hardware with sd card readers because of faster seek times

[Anonymous No.8726387]

>>8726378
We’ll at least you’ll be able to use your hygrometer to warn you about any excess humidity that you won’t be able to do anything about. Seriously, they’re kind of useless on their own. Also,
>too noisy
Agree but it’s actually great for someone with tinnitus so it’s a plus for me.

[Anonymous No.8726417]

I believe disc rot isn't even always visible to the naked eye. I ordered a copy of Comanche gold a while ago. Disc looks to be in prefect condition but won't read at all.

[Anonymous No.8726423]

Just wait til you hear about bit rot

[Anonymous No.8726453]

>>8726417
Thats not disc rot. I had that with brand new cd games during the nineties. Could be print errors. Or microscoping physical damage.

[Anonymous No.8726723]

>>8724117
>Brawl
Is the actual disc fucked or can your Wii just not read it? Wiis are notorious for not being able to read dual-layered discs after a while. If you have a Wii U, see if the game will run on that.

[Anonymous No.8726765]

>>8724096
>How are you dealing with disc rot in ur collection?
ROMs don't rot so I just emulate.

[Anonymous No.8726785]

>>8726765
>hardrive and pc oxidation, viruses and corrupted files
wait wha-

[Anonymous No.8726790]

>>8726785
Not on Linux and doesn't matter because it's easy to backup ROMs.

[Anonymous No.8726804]

>>8726790
you can't run from oxidation and corrupted file
sorry

[Anonymous No.8726813]

>>8726804
>he doesn't backup his ROMs as printouts over thousands of QR codes in a binder

[Anonymous No.8726826]

>>8726813
>QR code has a maximum symbol size of 177x177 modules. So, it can have as much as 31,329 squares which can encode 3KB of data
That's only 125 QR codes to store Pokemon Red/Blue.

[Anonymous No.8726827]

>>8726813
pff thats so gay, I memorize my games and I play them in my head

[Anonymous No.8726889]

>>8726826
imagine a binder full of missingnos encoding the game that produces them. kinda neat

[Anonymous No.8727012]

>>8726889
based

[Anonymous No.8727168]

>>8726032
I think it mostly has to do with manufacturing defects in the discs.

I have hundreds of discs, but only a few have ever rotted. It always seems to happen to the early CDs from the 80s, the ones from before colored printing on one side of the disc was common, where the disc is reflective on both sides.

[Anonymous No.8728025]

>>8724096
I just don't be a poorfag who has to larp about it being a problem in order to cope with being unable to afford old games

[Anonymous No.8728034]

>>8728025
literal schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.8728062]

>>8724096
It happened to me with gamecube games
I only keep a few ps2 physical games with me,the other ones i play through usb or hhd, ps1 are all burned cds so i not worry.
(Not retro but) Ps4 only got bloodborne, ttp, tlou1,doom2016 physical, the rest is in its ssd jailbreak of course along with retroarch with all retro consoles and roms.
My advice, sell all the games before it happens, and play through a non cd metod

[Anonymous No.8729015]

>>8724190
That's not disc rot, it looks like the disc is de-laminating. That's caused by shit manufacturing, physical shock, or rarely extreme temperatures.

[Anonymous No.8729023]

>>8724096
little reminder that Playstation CDs don't deteriorate as fast because They PUT EFFORT in manufacturing their discs ;)

[Anonymous No.8729027]

This guy is complaining of disc rot, I've never seen that on any of my games. Yknow what i have seen? Scratches and its bullshit how it works from media type to media type.

>Work at retro game shop
>Dude comes in and sells me his copy of Gun Valkyrie
>Scratched to hell and back.
>Pop it into the Xbox - it works and plays fine.
>Buy it from him.
>Two hours later dude comes in with CoD for PS4
>Very tiny little scratch about half an inch long
>Game refuses to load.

[Anonymous No.8729064]

>>8728034
>literal cope

[Anonymous No.8729146]

>>8729023
>its true because I say its true

[Anonymous No.8729157]

>>8729064
arrest yourself larper and go to bed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot

[Anonymous No.8729180]

>>8724096
The only time I've ever seen disk rot is shit getting left in direct sunlight for days on end. I own disc based games that I've had since 94 or 95 and I have never happen, not even once. You almost have to go out of your way to have a disc rot.

[Anonymous No.8729202]

>>8729180
>You almost have to go out of your way to have a disc rot.
true, idk how these faggots get disc rot

[Anonymous No.8729310]

>>8729202
Like I said, you have to go out your way to get disc rot. I've only seen it happen once, ever and it was some idiot I knew years ago who left cds on his dashboard in his car, in Florida for 58 days straight during summer.

[Anonymous No.8730070]

>>8724096
how and under what condition does this happen? Not trying to deny it's existence since it's a pretty big concern by now, but i didn't have a single disc rot so far and i got games here from 1996

[Anonymous No.8730073]

>>8729157
>coping intensifies

[Anonymous No.8730118]

>>8730070
Humidity and/or direct sunlight for extended periods of time. Incredibly rare to happen within climate controlled conditions.

[Anonymous No.8730195]

>>8730118
Oh, some of my copies turn organge when exposed to sunlight. I had that in that form then. They still run fine though but i always put the exposed part of the disc case face-down down ever since i realized what's going on.

[Anonymous No.8730213]

>>8724096
Forced meme. I have Sega CD games from launch that are in perfect condition. git gud

[Anonymous No.8730467]

I never experienced this even once in 28 years of buying games on CDs and well over 30 years of buying music on CDs. Are you living in a swamp or what?

I live in temperate central European climate with ways to properly store my belongings.

[Anonymous No.8730589]

>>8730195
that would be sunfade, just color alteration, no actual damage to the data layer. I think

[Anonymous No.8730686]

>>8724294
Guess he was right, huh?

[Anonymous No.8732243]

>>8730467
Makes you wonder, right?

[Anonymous No.8732710]

>>8729157
Yeah Wikipedia is such a reliable source....

[Anonymous No.8733713]

I've inherited my father CD collection when he died, all from the 80's/90's, all in pristine condition, no rotting in sight... is disc rot a meme pushed by poor people and zoomers????

[Anonymous No.8733781]

>>8733713
It's literally caused by poor manufacturing, which is why it's so rare.

[Anonymous No.8734027]

>>8733713
I reckon it's pushed by wata games to keep prices artificially high.
Let's be honest, the data on the disc is what is important, not the disc itself. Downloading and burning a game to a disc will give you the same experience as playing an official one. The entire thing is a big fucking con.

[Anonymous No.8734139]

>>8733713
Some years back, when poor angry children really started pushing this meme, I tested some of my oldest discs and the results were amazing. Insanely low error rates, like 20 C1 for a disc. Not max, not average, total. And these have been around the world several times through all sorts of climates. But never stored in a sewer, which is apparently the only legit cause of disc rot.

[Anonymous No.8734257]

>>8733713
Don't forget the filthy bastards who don't wash their hands

[Anonymous No.8734659]

>>8730467
>I live in ideal conditions and can’t fathom how anyone could possibly have issues.
Some people actually do live in a swamp.

[Anonymous No.8735827]

>>8733713
>is disc rot a meme pushed by poor people and zoomers????
I have rotten discs. DVDs and CDs, not games tho.
t.34yo boomer

[Anonymous No.8735832]

>>8735827
>i live in the sewer

[Anonymous No.8735991]

>>8724096
This comes off sounding like a desperate attempt to get people to convert to digital media.

[Anonymous No.8736004]

>>8726082
AYY SHAHHT AAAHHP YA WEASEL

[Anonymous No.8736398]

>>8726082
>>8736004

[Anonymous No.8736743]

>>8735991
Because it is.

[Anonymous No.8736982]

>>8735827
Should have washed your hands and put your discs back in their cases

[Anonymous No.8737530]

>>8729157
>all references are from shitty articles from whenever

[Anonymous No.8737558]

>>8724141
>DIN DU HAPPIN2ME SO JEW LIYING

Every single time you simple minded child.

[Anonymous No.8737560]

>>8724096
>Disc rot thread
>Stays up because jannies lazy

ffs remove it already. As bad as master system posting.

[Anonymous No.8737565]

>>8724190
>>8727168
Neither are issues like the myth "disc rot"

Everyone remember what sage and report is?

[Anonymous No.8737570]

>>8735827
>I have this thing I could provide photos of but because it isn't real I DO NOT PROVIDE TIMESTAMPED PHOTOS AND INSTEAD LARP