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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>8706040

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more):
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives:
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series:
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil:
https://mega.nz/file/BzxyGBBZ#cHtxsid-0wpeFltrPAYCStiwYCXshndXUCfOEXSP7gs
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

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=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461
Current release
https://mega.nz/file/erwV0IbC#LE6uNgNAXh8CkxNhZpFxY3cxMWrS6_eaO92ZdotUfho

=== NEWS ===
[03-13] Quake 2 hi-res pack final release
https://www.moddb.com/mods/turoktirol/addons/oblivion-for-quake-2-hi-res-texture-pack

[03-12] Powerslave patch and editor released
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/1502729607363051522

[03-07] Q3Rally v0.4 released
https://www.q3rally.com/2022/03/02/q3rally-v0-4-is-out/

[03-05] Elementalism Phase 1 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100102

[03-04] Chocolate Descent gets a beta release
https://github.com/InsanityBringer/ChocolateDescent/releases/tag/v0.1-beta

[03-03] Anon finishes The 10x10 Project
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125783-the-10x10-project-complete-cl9/

[03-03] Underground Dungeon begins Serious Sam TSE mapping jam

[03-03] John Romero releases a new WAD
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/727328864489046110/948764939949072394/one-humanity.zip

[03-02] LOLAttack: every monster uses every attack
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=74802#p1214275

[03-01] DBP45: Vrack Botanicals is out now
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2462/vrack-botanicals

[02-28] Dark Forces launcher released, supports mouselook and downloading
https://df-21.net/?post=57

[02-25] Quake 2 Oblivion upscaled texture pack released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/oblivion-upscaled-texture-pack

[02-24] DOOM 64 re-release updated
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1148590/announcements/detail/3088910094673350021

[02-24] Automap Quake released.
https://jaycie.erysdren.me/quake/automap/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

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>> No.8716726
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For 94 Protons, If I try to get the props done and then assemble the texture pack so that it can be done for about late March, that'd be fine if the guns and the final boss isn't done yet by then, right?

Also I call dibs on E1L1, and E3Lwhatever for the final boss.

>> No.8716738

>>8716726
Yes, that's fine, the props and textures are pretty much everything needed for mapping. The guns are cosmetic and having them added them later won't impede on the mapping effort.
>Spoiler
Well we sure as shit don't need the final boss if only you can use him

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>> No.8716802

>>8716796
>port best chainsaw
alright, which chainsaw is it?

>> No.8716804

>>8716802
Doom 3's, most likely. It does a lot of damage.

>> No.8716867

>>8716802
Seconding Doom 3's, because it's a beast, Doom 64 as runner up because it's boosted.

>> No.8716938
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>> No.8716941

>>8716938
Is this a Cacodemon?

>> No.8716948
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You have no chance to survive make your time.

>> No.8716950
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If your map is actually possible without saving, it sucks.
Balancing around saveless runs severely limits game design.

>> No.8716959

How would you have made Heretic's weapon selection less like sparkly guns and more like magic that isn't just a gun substitute? It feels like such a waste of concept.

>> No.8716961

>>8716950
>making your map so unfair that someone has to fucking quicksave to progress when they learn what bullshit your map throws at them so they can avoid it next time
So you make Dragon's Lair maps.

>> No.8717015

>>8716950
I guarantee you, every map can be done saveless

>> No.8717020

>>8716959
I like Heretic's weapons as they are.
Staffs are cooler than "magic out of hands".

>> No.8717024

>>8716802
Shadow Warrior 2's chainsaw lets you control the cutting direction and you can "feel" how it cuts through the flesh, slowly. And best of all, you can do it to ninja bitches, making them scream in agony. Awesome.

>> No.8717025

>>8716959
I'm already doing something like that in the future with magic powered guns.

>> No.8717026

>>8716950
Ah, so that's why everyone starts crying the moment they have to save up ammo when I don't give them constant shotgun shells. Super Shotgun was a mistake.

>> No.8717031

>>8717026
>Super Shotgun was a mistake.
I still hold fast in my belief that the Super Shotgun was both a great and terrible addition to Doom's arsenal.
Amazing how firing two shotgun shells plus a few extra pellets can fuck with the balance so hard.

>> No.8717040

>>8717026
the super shotgun suffers from how awesome it is.
unless you buff the chaingun and normal shotgun there will feel like little reason to use either over it.

>> No.8717056

>>8717026
>>8717031
Doom 2 gives you the Super Shotgun very early, which would be less of a problem if they had just stuck to an episodic formula like the first game, resetting the players inventory every now and then.

>>8717040
Don't agree, they have precision which the Super Shotgun lacks, letting you deal with guys at a much longer distance, where the Super Shotgun may miss most or all pellets. Chaingun is also a different ammo pool, so that can straight up be something you can use when you don't have shotgun shells.

Doom 64 did the right thing by making the Chaingun two tics faster though, it's a lot more satisfying to use.

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>>8717056
I agree with your sentiments on Doom 64's chaingun, the beefier firing sound and cool muzzleflash helps too.
Resetting the player's inventory would certainly helped too, and as much as I think the Super Shotgun is sometimes overpowered, it sure is nice using it to clear out groups of trash monsters or killing cacos with it.

As always: Fuck the pistol.

>> No.8717072

>>8717056
in most wads,the extra precision barely matters.

>> No.8717082

>>8717015
Rewinds count as saves.
>>8717026
Huh?

>> No.8717097

>>8717082
Difficulty is not entirely based on monster count, but on ammo / items. Do you have any idea how many people bitched at me like little girls when I put one, ONE completely invisible pinkie in a room that's shaped like a dick? Now imagine that same scenario with a map that has slightly less ammo than the average Doom 2 map.

>> No.8717105

Wonder if it would be fun to have a pistol replacement where instead of it being just a shitty peashooter, turn it into an ammo hungry magnum that has a 10 to 1 bullet ammo consumption or something.

>> No.8717115

>>8717097
If beating the map is possible without using savestates, even if you're good, and even if you know the map like the back of your hand, it isn't difficult enough.

I wonder if it'd be feasible to make such a hard map with a relatively small enemy count, while still having it be beatable at all. If you aren't utilizing custom enemies, there'd have to be some gimmick to it beyond standard RNG jackpots and ammo starvation.

Okuplok 5D chess puzzle map? Idk.

>> No.8717162

New laser rifle secondary fire is working well...
https://files.catbox.moe/9jdyt3.webm

>> No.8717176

>>8716796
>cyberdemon basically practice funny idiot mission
.wad
>fun wads used easy
>mind goes almost wanted weapon
>boom retard started plutonia sounds pistol
>pain kills build
>harder mapping black bros
>zombies happened

>> No.8717183

>>8716796
>ass levels making gzdoom hell enough
>mods probably vanilla
>casual october
>definitely ultra-violence
>retarded destructor
>becoming mech
>cyberdemon basically practice funny idiot

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>>8716686
fresh from the crt thread

>> No.8717205

>sunder map16 final fight
>please kill me

>> No.8717227

>>8717192
I think somebody needs to adjust their brightness.

>> No.8717286

>>8717205
Slaughterfags get what they deserve.

>> No.8717287

What are the general rules, if unspoken, about midi sourcing?
Commercial DOOM and explicitly permitted fan stuff is all kosher, obviously
Non-DOOM /vr/ shooters are fine
Other big vidya and even big name music get a pass since the copyright jews don't care about doomworld archives
Classic megawads, like pre 2005-10, seem to be fair game?
As for more recent stuff I dunno, I doubt it's a free for all unless the author says so, the spirit of midi sourcing in DOOM seems to be "whatever I can grab" but at the same time I can't imagine yoinking a track composed the same year would sit well

>> No.8717301

>>8717287
browse niche subgenre tags on bandcamp and find something decent with less than 10 supporters then pirate it and convert it to midi and never give credit

>> No.8717330
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Finally getting started on this thing proper. Feels good to get these animations in game.

>> No.8717337

Hellbound is pretty player friendly, nicely put together, and really beautifully detailed, but why is it so draining to play? Can't make it more than a level or two blind before needing a break even though gameplay wise it's perfectly manageable, I dunno
Unrelated but the starport tarmac fight was great, the mastermind managed to aggro almost everyone but because it was off the runway projectiles kept going for her origin and getting caught on the raised terrain, giving spidermom the time to keep blastin and beat most everyone

>> No.8717352

>>8717330
Firing animation looks too similar to the plasma tier weapon on the techmonk set imo.

>> No.8717353
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>>8717352
That's fine, this is a separate mod anyway, and the red fire animation is gonna be a toss like this

>> No.8717362
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super shotgun bad!
questionable design choices?
good blood sourceport?
john romero rekkr!
faggot maps spritework.
modern retro shooters?
not /vr/ related.
pistol start saveless?
plutonia very hard!
graf zahl dumb!
kick bubble gum.
buy my tc.
hard map good!
slaughter map shit!
patreon civillian video?
brutal bad fanbase?
haha meatball funny.

>> No.8717365

Any mods for adding obnoxious level of bloom and lights and glowing things and new effects to Hexen?
I like shiny shit idgaf

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>>8717330
G

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>>8717423
What you see there is pretty much the most recent thing man. I still need to knock out the Fire Flower, the Space Hunter Rifle, the Power Adaptor, along with some tweaks to the default set of Gaiden. Not to mention some other shit that I don't want to spoil.

>> No.8717492

>>8717301
lel

>> No.8717506
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>>8716686
what the fuck Romero

>> No.8717548

>>8717506
>John is professional level at Doom, Doom II and Quake.
By 90s standards, or has he been deathmatching this entire time?

>> No.8717565

>>8717548
>has he been deathmatching this entire time?
That's what he was fired from id for, I don't think he ever stopped.

>> No.8717575

>>8717506
Does Doom really have the same level of fanatic consumerism to support these kinds of scams?

>> No.8717584

>>8716796
>zip recording machine challenge
The Life and Times of IOmega.

>> No.8717610

>>8716950
What's the best mod to play with Okuplok?

>> No.8717632

>>8717506
>2500+2500+5000 = 6666
Hmmmmmm

>> No.8717635

>>8717056
The chaingun or plasma rifle are also better to have ready if you get surprised by some hitscanners and can’t/won’t backtrack to some quick cover. Even then I agree with 64’s changes to the chaingun, even if most of the other weapons were buffed as well.
I also play Babel which does a fantastic job at buffing the pistol, reg shotgun, and chaingun.

>> No.8717642

>>8717056
I think a faster chaingun steps on the toes of the plasma gun a little too much. And the plasma gun already has a difficult time finding a reason to exist when there's also a BFG on the map.
But I actually like Doom's weapons as-is. The only change I'd want to make it a more accurate pistol that you can switch to and from more quickly.

>> No.8717651

>>8717506
>excellent cause ... the direct support of the upcoming FPS museum
>i.e. the museum that id, particularly DOOM and the people who worked on it, would have to be a cornerstone of
>i.e. a museum for him
Well, if there's one thing consistent about Romero it's his unyieldingly massive ego

>> No.8717653

>>8717642
I believe the plasma rifle/BFG issue as seen in Doom is the fate of any shooter weapon roster that doesn’t give their “super weapon” its own ammo pool.

>> No.8717664

>>8717642
plasma is basically the super weapon for when you don't have the bfg, or the premium brand stunlocking gun to the chaingun's walmart great value stunlock

>> No.8717674
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Say something nice about it. I dare you

>> No.8717678

>>8717610
Hideous Destructor

>> No.8717701

>>8717664
If it’s something like a lone pain elemental I’m not likely to “waste” cells on it and just use the chaingun anyways. If it’s something I need to “stunlock” and there’s other enemies around I’d probably prefer the cells were spent on a BFG blast that could just kill them all.

>> No.8717723

>>8717674
cool looking box art

>> No.8717727

>45 minutes left on my "brutal hexen" download
this better be good for 500MB hosted on a niggertier clickbait filesharing site
i just want some more torches and shiny lights everywhere
hexen is surprisingly dark in retrospect

>> No.8717740

>>8717674
I can't. Worst commercially released doom by far
The levels have some of the worst switch hunting I've seen this side of hexen

>> No.8717768
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>>8716686
Why does movement in the Doom engine feel much better than in the build engine?
In doom it feels like there are some microseconds on acceleration a deacceleration when you start moving and you stop, giving the movement a sense of weight.
In build engine games it feels like you're levitating on the ground and when you stop pushing forward you come to a complete halt

>> No.8717779

>>8717768
Frankly, I don't like that about Doom movement, as it constantly feels like you're on a slippery surface.

>> No.8717794

>>8717506
Huh.

>>8717632
I assume that the difference goes to himself, in some fairness, that would make up a small amount of that pricetag.
I really wonder how many people would be up for something like this though.

>> No.8717798

>>8717768
>>8717779
The only movement I don’t like is when its completely static, no accel or deccel. Thankfully it’s mostly a trend with shooters from the middle of 2000 on up, when gamepad controls were trending.

>> No.8717809

>>8717727
Ahh, is that the RPG one? That site wanted me to wait three hours. Nope.

>> No.8717848
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What's your guilty pleasure Wad?

>> No.8717864
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CRUNCH

>> No.8717865
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>there isn't a single good set of model/sound replacements for Quake
some fucking community

>> No.8717872

>>8717865
The best set of models and sounds for Quake is called Quake.

>> No.8717878

>there isn't a single good set of model/sound replacements for Quake
Sounds are fine, and I just use the models extracted from the rerelease. The rocket launcher needs a fix though.

>> No.8717890

>>8717872
na, they're shit

>> No.8717894

>>8717890
You're shit.

>> No.8717895

>>8717809
Wrath of Cronos is the Hexen RPG mod, I think

>> No.8717902

>>8717894
not as shit as quake's models and sounds

>> No.8717908

huh looks like Brutal Hexen does have some rpg elements too, actually

>> No.8717952

>>8717848
What's so guilty about Whitemare 2 other than the thinly veiled bait?

>> No.8717970

>>8717865
You got something against Chillo's models?

>> No.8718010
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>>8716941
No, it's loss.

>> No.8718012

>>8716950
I generally make maps that push my ability to the limit with saves between fights. But things that are unbeatable without saves are usually not interesting.

>> No.8718034

>>8717040
>unless you buff the chaingun and normal shotgun there will feel like little reason to use either over it.
I'm the guy that's been playing through Doom 1 and 2 and all the extra episodes on ultra-violence for the first time. I still use the regular shotgun tons to save on ammo, especially since it's so much more precise at long range.

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>>8717848
DBZ
I feel like I've played this thing with almost every mod (that works on zandro) by now

>> No.8718053

>>8717768
>pic
I remember putting that as a flat in my first doom map, still somewhere on idgames lel

>> No.8718059

>>8718052
The fuck is this? What gun is this? Why are you playing as a cowman? WTF

>> No.8718070

>>8718059
The Samsara experience in one post.

>> No.8718071

>>8717701
There are uses for Plasma though.
There's a cross shaped trap in Mass Extinction where you get lowered and 4 barons swarm you from all directions.
There's barely any room and walls everywhere so you can't use Rocket Launcher, SSG is too low DPS and too slow and using the BFG is wasteful since you can barely nail two barons with it at the same time.
There's also a big pillar in the center, the best strategy for this room seems to be to wound one baron, run past him and stick your back to the wall, the barons funnel in one by one and you just plasma them.

>> No.8718109

>>8718070
So that cowman is from In Pursuit of Greed, isn't it?

>> No.8718129

>>8718071
>There are uses for Plasma though
No one said there weren’t, especially when you can get modern mapmakers who are well aware of the giant powergap between the plasma rifle and BFG that’s far bigger than the shotgun and super shotgun.

>> No.8718142

>>8718109
Yeah mooman

>> No.8718194

>>8717952
A few of the maps are poorly designed, but I love them none the less.

>> No.8718195

>>8718052
The worst thing about this screenshot is that top weapon bar. I hated it in the original samsara, I hate it now, and I will continue to hate it until the end of time.

>> No.8718259

>>8717848
Prodoomer

>> No.8718274

>>8717848
Not a wad per se, but Maximum Doom, D!Zone and other similar shovelware collection CDs, and not just the Doom ones.

>> No.8718297

>>8718274
Now this is a man of taste.

>> No.8718302

>>8717908
There's also a Brutal HeXen RPG mod by someone called Seidolon, but he abandoned it. There's another version still being worked on by someone called ZDL, but he got booted off ZDoom and hosts the download on weird sites.

>> No.8718317

>>8717162
I think the weapon ran out of cells.

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I think sam anon would get a kick out of this

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>>8718346

>> No.8718360

>>8716686
What would happen if you tried loading the most recent version of Samsara into GZDoom 3.5.0?

>> No.8718365
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Oh my heartstrings

>> No.8718371

>>8718365
What is this?

>> No.8718374

>>8718371
HFFM, MAP09, out of bounds secret

>> No.8718384

>>8718365
FAGGOT

>> No.8718425
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tren

>> No.8718430

>>8718425
all aboard the pain train

>> No.8718480

>>8718365
Neat find

>> No.8718489
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>”Goons with probes inserted into their pleasure centers; wired up so when they kill someone, they get paroxysms of ecstasy. In essence, customized serial killers.”
Is this weird “slipgate shit” that wired them like this, or edgy military science stuff? If the latter, why would they be hostile? DID they get “overtaken” by Quake/Shubbyshiggy?

>> No.8718510

>>8718489
If you accept QC lore, base command was already being driven bonkers for a while, and they had that mad scientist around.

>> No.8718527

>>8718510
Pointing to QC for Quake story kind of feels like pointing to Smash bros for Zelda story, but I’m fine with crazy scientists doing crazy shit.

>> No.8718583

Last map of plutonia felt a bit rng if the projectiles were hitting IOS or not.

>> No.8718593

>>8717768
Is that Romero or Adam Driver?

>> No.8718610

>>8718527
This bit is at supposed to be set in the Q1 base, at least.
https://churchofquake.com/wiki/commander-at-the-slipgate/
Scroll 5 makes direct mention of the soldiers being fitted with weird shit from Hillman.

>> No.8718614

>>8718610
>Hillman
Gilman, autocorrect. He also shows up in QC's Visor and I think Ranger fluff

>> No.8718937

>>8718593
Actually, it's Mike Patton

>> No.8718959

>>8718384
Hey now, I think I should count as a half-faggot, I slept with both of your parents, remember.

>> No.8718983

>>8718959
C'mon fuckhead, you're gonna hide a heartfelt message in your map and say you're only half gay? Commit to it and embrace yourself

>> No.8719004

>>8718983
In his defense, it's a heartfelt message dedicated to a man who is only half ord.

>> No.8719021

>>8718983
Ok, alright, I promise to stop banging anon's mom, but in exchange I'll bang his dad more.

>> No.8719042

Guys, I just cannot tell the barons of hell and hell knights apart. Is it because I'm color blind? Does anyone else have this issue?

>> No.8719064

I need a QuakeSpasm Spiked update guys. I just need it to fix that spawn fuckery that got introduced with Remaster support. It broke so many maps, I don't have a Vulkan-compatible GPU and fallback version doesn't have as many nice features and has other bugs. WHY

>> No.8719072

>>8719042
>Is it because I'm color blind?
Yes because one is distinctly fleshy red/pink while the other is brown like an aged piece of paper.

>> No.8719073

>>8718371
basically rob halford was some baldy-headed twat that was a faggot and sung in a band called jewshit priest or something like that, most fruity metal you can find this side of the fucking athabasca river

>> No.8719085
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>>8719042
Alright, anon. Please look at the chart before you. Which one is a baron of hell and which is a hell knight?
Please, nobody give him any hints. Anon needs to do this on his own.

>> No.8719089

>>8719042
>Is it because I'm color blind?
I can't think of any other reason, Knight is Baron wit the pink upper body turned tan. I think some of the photorealistic sheen was lost in that recolor (he's a claymation model), but beyond that just pay attention to their screams.
Their close similarity is why I like to change their scaling when doing mod stuff (0.90 for Knight, 1.10 for Baron), and also give them distinct active and hurt sounds.

>>8718959
Hey doc, you don't think my Cyberdemon boss is stupid, right?

>> No.8719098

>>8719089
>my Cyberdemon boss
Huh? Mozza?

>> No.8719104

>>8719085
Yeah, seeing them side by side, I can tell. But holy shit, take either one of those pictures and it's a real struggle without the comparison. I wasn't just meme-ing by the way. I legitimately am color blind.

>> No.8719105

>>8719042
It can be hard telling them apar sometimest in the software renderer

>> No.8719108

>>8719042
Why would you need to tell them apart when you can just rip them apart?

>> No.8719109
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>>8719085
It's interesting that they're still a little distinct even without colors.
>>8719104
Pay attention to their cries.

>> No.8719116
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8719116

Any wads with maps like Vivisection? I really like how the arena kept opening up as the map progressed.

>> No.8719124

>>8719108
To know whether I need to blow rockets/energy cells or if the ssg is enough if there's a whole group of them

>> No.8719152

>>8719104
If it's that much of an issue, you could make your own wad and recolor them to whatever you want, and autoload it with anything that doesn't alter them/their palettes

>> No.8719171

>>8719089
>Hey doc, you don't think my Cyberdemon boss is stupid, right?
What now, you mean for 94? What kind of Cyberdemon boss?

>>8719098
Gotta be Chop. Haven't seen the Captain in forever.

>> No.8719178

>>8719171
I dunno, it's hard for anyone to know what he means by "cyberdemon boss" if it hasn't been shown in any capacity, so asking makes no sense. Then again, that's a very chopblock thing to do.

>> No.8719356

>>8719178
Should be the cyberdemon that spawns walking rockets like someone suggested for Ad Mortem.

>> No.8719360

Are the maps bigger in PSX Doom, or is the field of view wider?

>> No.8719451

GZDoom running like shit on my laptop. Will I run into any issues using mods on LZDoom?

>> No.8719486

>>8719451
Switching renderer to OpenGL ES doesn't help?

>> No.8719492

>>8719451
if you get stutters when a bunch of shit happens at once, make sure your windows audio sample rate isn't above 96,000 hz
gzdoom doesn't understand those frequencies and spazzes out shitting itself

>> No.8719495

>>8719486
I'll have to try that
>>8719492
Yeah it mostly shits itself when there's a lot of armor parts or health, but I'll try tinkering with that

>> No.8719545

>>8717176
>harder mapping black bros
Blaxploitation HFFM sequel when

>> No.8719553

>>8717674
I guess the Black Tower is kind of cool looking

>> No.8719563

>>8718052
That train level is pretty neat.

>> No.8719567

>>8717848
Shadow Mavericks HQ

>> No.8719576

>>8719042
just ask them dude

>> No.8719581

>>8719567
Link?

>> No.8719589
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8719589

>>8719563
I confess I feel a sick sense of completely worthless satisfaction knowing the answer to all the puzzles in the 8th and 9th level and sit there coop spying people running around like headless chickens wondering where the fuck the green key is while sitting in the secret room. And yes that train level is. I liked the older version though where you would die instead of teleport back. It was fun watching the train pass by all the corpses.

>> No.8719594

>>8719581
https://www.shadowmavericks.com/#/files/Doom/SMMP
It's a *guilty* pleasure for a reason. You have been warned.

>> No.8719597

>>8719594
Lemme guess, furry porn? Let's have a look

>> No.8719605
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>>8719597
Jesus christ anon, what's in this thing?!

>> No.8719616

>>8719605
Godspeed you madman. We might never see you again.

>> No.8719624

>>8719605
Bloat that puts Brutal Doom to shame.

>> No.8719643

>>8717678
have a (Hue)

>> No.8719645
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8719645

>>8719597
I wish I wasn't right.

>> No.8719653

>>8717548
>>8717565
he's pretty bad. decino doesnt even play deathmatch and he still whooped him (on doom, which he has said previous is his prefered deathmatch game). also gonna use this post to ask if anyone has the video of him raging on dm4 please post it. it was deleted and i cant find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8notLsKz4

>> No.8719657

>>8717865
quake sound bulb

>> No.8719658

>>8719645
i told you bro

>> No.8719661

>>8719658
Was pretty cool though. HQ maps are always fun little relics.

>> No.8719678

>>8719594
Man how old is this thing?

>> No.8719681
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8719681

Nerdlathotep is very bullyable with the boomerang.

>> No.8719682

>>8719681
I should probably enforce a cooldown between boomerang throws.

>> No.8719684
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8719684

And the brick tome.

>> No.8719692

>>8717674
Its levels are actually good just easy. Dr Sleep and Tom Mustaine were good mappers, the finished product was just fucked by rushed deadlines. Imagine if they delayed Master Levels and got the maps better and a 32 level mapset packaged with Final Doom

>> No.8719698

All right, I just played through the entirety of 2048 units continuously, saving only at the start of each level, just to see how long a D2All would take. Ended up with a time of 178 minutes, and I really was prioritizing survival over speed. Some of the difficult maps become significantly easier with the weapons carried over, including map29. In regards to the potential run, the maps of note are:
Map07: This one kills me sometimes in the double AV fight, and pray to god that you do not miss any enemies when going down the elevator.
Map11: reeeeeeeeeeeee it's dark, there's lots of platforming and secrets, routing is confusing, and the SR50 jump is annoying. The final fight is not a problem, since you carry over the BFG from map10.
Map15: This one is generally difficult, and some of the secrets are quite annoying to get. You can lose a lot of time if you miss them on the first try.
Map31: The chessboard fight is kind of scary even with the invul.
Map23: You have the BFG, so this level becomes much easier, you do not even have to cheese the arch-viles. SSGing the cyberdemon is tedious though.
Map27: The blue key fight can go wrong, but other than that this map is pretty easy on a continuous playthrough.
Map29: You get a megasphere at the end of map28 and a lot of weapons, taking out most of the challenge from this map. The most difficult part is when you get locked in (blue key, I think).
Map30: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE why does the worst map to max have to be the final one? Everything before the IoS is easy, but killing the turret barons is absolutely disgusting. And you can get telefragged too, if you're not careful.

>> No.8719701

>>8719692
Does Romero still want that $50k from Dr. Sleep?

>> No.8719727

>>8719678
It was around when Zandronum was Skulltag.

>> No.8719731

Dear diary
Today I tricked anon into looking at furry porn

>> No.8719746

>>8719653
https://vimeo.com/241235113
found it
some pretty obvious mistakes if you watch it

>> No.8719778

>>8719451
Try turning off dynamic lights, that's one of the worst performance killers.

>> No.8719785

>>8719746
Christ, I've never played Quake and I think I could beat him.

>> No.8719791

>>8717506
>fire and water for elders of Navajo nation
Just don't mix the two haha!
But yeh, that sounds like a fun night. I don't have 2500 eurobucks, or the time to do something like that. But if I did, fuck, maybe.

>> No.8719920

>>8717865
play Quake 1.5

>> No.8719983
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8719983

I got pumped up by the OP

>> No.8719985

>>8719983
Fucking sweet anon. I have faith for 94p if we've got 2 maps going before it's even started

>> No.8720005

>>8719042

I'm red/green colorblind and I don't have any problem with it :/

>> No.8720072
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8720072

are there any mods that decouple aim from view, so view could be controlled by one joystick and aim from the second joystick on a gamepad?

>> No.8720114

>>8720072
So in a Goldeneye or a Rails shooter kind of way?
Would be very hard in Doom, because the sprites can't convey direction well at all.
So there would be an ugly crosshair indicating aim.

It could work better in a full 3D Game like Quake.

>> No.8720212
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8720212

Trying to play the mod Hexercise, but the sprites are cut up all weird. Is there a way I can fix this by messing with the options in GZDoom?

>> No.8720262
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8720262

okay

i managed to find out how to record demos and how to get mods to work on demos

>> No.8720264

would you like to see a replay:) ?

>> No.8720270

>>8720264
Replay of what?

>> No.8720310

>>8718610
It’s not anything I’d get an answer to, but I’m more interested in what the original guys had in mind over what Saber Interactive had provided to pad out progression.

>> No.8720312

>>8720264
No fuck off to Doomworld

>> No.8720351

>>8720270
my demo that i figured out how to make it work with mods with

>> No.8720362

>>8720312
Sure, why not

>> No.8720415

>>8719098
No. If I was Captain Mozzarella I could make the final boss even cooler.

>>8719178
It's not ready yet, but it's gonna be cool, imagine a Cyberdemon with TWO rocket launchers, and he fires a rapid salvo of six rockets in the same kind of pattern as a Mancubus shoots fireballs, and you fight two of them at once.

>> No.8720418

>>8719356
That would be hilarious as fuck for how difficult that would be, it would maybe also be too comical in tone. Definitely an idea worth writing down though.

>> No.8720428

>>8719698
>Map30: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE why does the worst map to max have to be the final one? Everything before the IoS is easy, but killing the turret barons is absolutely disgusting.
In retrospect, I should maybe have tried to have a custom actor devised which didn't count as a monster, and which just spewed intermittent streams of green fire, but this was before MBF21 and I don't know if we had any room left to do such a thing.

So I guess just cope?

>> No.8720429

>>8720072
It’s possible. There was a System Shock-like Doom mod from a few years back that was like this, but it has a lot of gameplay changes.

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>>8719731

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>>8719983
Oh wow, I should really hurry.

>> No.8720448

/vr/ thoughts on Ultimate Doom Builder?
Seems pretty nice

>> No.8720450

>>8720448
It's great.

>> No.8720451

>>8720448
no reason not to use it

>> No.8720454

>>8720450
>>8720451
huh
saw that the pastebin still recommend the og doom builder, any reason for this?

>> No.8720458

>>8718274
Yeah, the bizarre level design of those packs definitely gives it a bit of an appeal.

Which collection was your favorite, and where there any maps that you would consider diamonds-in-the-rough?

>> No.8720460

>>8720454
>Oct 6th, 2016
Might have something to do with it.

>> No.8720463

>>8720460
So its outdated
Is anyone going to update it?

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>>8720463

>> No.8720468

>>8720464
confusing but hilarious

>> No.8720481
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>>8720362
super duper

https://files.catbox.moe/245h7f.mp4

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damn...

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>>8720481

>> No.8720592
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>> No.8720604

>>8720592
the virgin doom x hasbro hotel
the very much not a virgin h-doom x helltaker
the sigma doom x animal crossing so doomguy can finally rest and hang out with cute critters like daisy as a reward for his work

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8720632

>>8720592
>>8720604
the best doom crossovers are the ones that are playable
for gamers, by gamers

>> No.8720641

>>8720481
brutal doom is way faster and funner than doom3,2016,eternal

doom3 onward is garbage and belongs in the trash. The shotguns require extreme close range to be of any use. And the enemies are all spongey because the 3D game engines are all incapable of rendering and processing a huge number of enemies

Every 3D shooter is like this, big empty rooms with 1 or 2 enemies inside with a freaking ton of health. Its pathetic

Half life is a good example of this. Boring sponge enemies and a lot of time not shooting at anything

>> No.8720668

>>8720632
Calebbros...

>> No.8720675

>>8720632
>prisoner 849 is a woman
Who started this meme and why?

>> No.8720736

>>8720675
All I know is that it’s a perfect opportunity to have the player gender determine if you play as Dante or Gina in Samsara.

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8720760

>>8720481
so this what those eversor handlers see during debriefings

>> No.8720825

playing some serious sam first encounter for the first time and i dont know what it is with this game, but after every level i just shut off the game thinking damn this shit sucks, and 15 minutes later im back for more

>> No.8720862

>>8720454
Old Doom Builder still works, it's still a pretty good program, it was great even when it was brand new way many years ago. Doom Builder became THE map editing software because not only was it better than all previous Doom mapping software ever published, it was also totally free.
It was actually a rather impressive leap, because it was a million times faster and easier to use than 90s stuff like DeepSea and what not (none of the old programs had a 3D first person view even). I remember trying it out in the 2000's as a complete neophyte, and I was absolutely blown away at how easy it was to use and learn, and that's before factoring in the really easy to follow tutorial included with the software.
I had never made a level for a first person shooter of any kind before, and I could simply not believe how simple it was.

The later iterations of it, Doom Builder 2, GzDoom Builder, and now Ultimate Doom Builder, they're actually not fundamentally different from the original, the handling and functionality is the same, the latest UDB just has more features, more options, and is a more stable program (not by that much though, because DB was actually quite stable as is back in the 2000s).

You could stick to and use the older Doom Builders, and probably it would be ok (people were ok with it for years), but if you're used to the first one, know that there's basically no transitional difficulty to use Ultimate Doom Builder instead, and it has many good benefits. One of them is that you can turn off the smudgy Graf filter in the 3D mode, another is that it recognizes the cool new MBF21 format.

>> No.8720913

>>8720825
Does it feel a bit too "draining" at times? For me sam was just one of those games I could only beat one or two levels at a time before taking a break. Not saying that's a bad thing. The levels do get pretty serious at times.

>> No.8720927

3d games were such a disappointment

>> No.8720947

>>8720913
Not him but that’s how I felt the first time through and didn’t finish it. Returning to it, trying it again, and knowing more what to expect from the scale of fights was when it became wonderful. It also taught me the importance of sticking to ‘autosaves only’ for fights to remain memorable.

>> No.8720956

>>8720947
It gets really fun when you can do whole maps without saving.

>> No.8721002

>>8720956
It’s fun working towards that, too. It’s generally satisfying to pull off for most shooters.

>> No.8721080

>>8720956
Sam games also have a limited number of saves you can use for their score system, so you could follow that instead of doing it saveless if it's too hard at the moment.

>> No.8721120

quake has killed gaming

literally makes me want to fall asleep while playing

>> No.8721261

>>8720675
The prisoner was supposed to be a woman from the very start. Also default player model

>> No.8721282

>>8720675
Isn't Gina the default skin for the game?

>> No.8721339
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8721339

Playing Bloodstain atm, it's pretty good but I don't like the new hitscanners. They can kill 4-5 shotgun guys when infighting, it's too easy to cheese in this wad.

>> No.8721381

>>8716726
Will there be more custom monsters? I missed last 2 weeks or so.

>> No.8721410

>>8720675
Because unless you go into the menu and mess with the skin options, you will be playing the campaign as a woman.

>> No.8721417

What are some good maps for project brutality? I already know map of chaos to hearth and clearly is not made for slaughtermaps, so idk something in between.

>> No.8721434

>>8721417
Unholy Realms, NOVA II and III are my go-to mapwads for gameplay mods

>> No.8721454

>>8721417
I played through most of Alien Vendetta with it, it was fine and served as a decent stress test.

>> No.8721459

https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1503880485365329923
>you thought you were safe from me by playing Doom?

>> No.8721472

>>8721459
>Serious Sam gameplay mod
Potentially very fun
>Serious Sam monsters mod with Painslayer
My dream

>> No.8721476

>>8721381
Just the final boss. See >>8720415

>> No.8721479

>>8721476
Shame. I was hoping for jetpack plasmagunners.

>> No.8721487

I just found out about the doom2 Compendium.wad. It’s like 50 megawads included in one with a level select that lets you choose the episode. There’s supposed to be over 1000 total levels in it, it’s truly fuckin insane. Been a lot of fun working through some really great megawads I hadn’t heard of without having to sift through 15 years of cacowards

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>>8721487
Its a lot of fun with the mod that shuffles maps as well, though of course results will vary with that many to choose from.
Ah found it: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=72760
There's also Sentinel's Lexicon as a bit of a newer version of compendium, different wads to choose from: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=62724

>> No.8721504

>>8721487
Don't forget Lexicon too

>> No.8721505

>>8721487
I remember trying this and all the zombies from every level pack had sounds replaced. Maybe it was my mod list…

>> No.8721516

>>8721502
Thanks man I appreciate these. I recently tried project brutality 3 but found there to be too many branches by too many people, all of which were in varying states of incomplete. I ended up installing Zandronum and Brutal v21 instead for easier coop hosting, but maybe I’m just an idiot when it came to GZdoom

>> No.8721521

>>8721417
Going Down, SgtMark’s stuff like EDay and Hell on Earth starter pack

>> No.8721545

>>8721516
Popular mods always get a lot of forks, and said forks often tend to have varying degrees of bloat/polish/direction/etc. If the core mod is something you enjoy, then finding a fork is mostly a matter of which one you feel caries out its intention the best. I tend to stay away from the brutal derivatives, but it applies to other mods as well. Most important part is playing what you enjoy, and having an open mind to find other mods you might enjoy even more.

>> No.8721742

Would Dehacked allow for a monster that can't be killed except for telefrag?

>> No.8721773

>>8720576
Happy Doomsday

>> No.8721793

>>8721742
if there's no specific flag, you could easily just lump 8 gorillion health onto it so that while killable with idkfa and patience it wouldn't be possible normally

>> No.8721806

>>8719682
Only when it hits an enemy, I hope.

>>8720212
I think maybe you'd have to use a 4:3 resolution. I don't think the sprites were adapted for widescreen.

>> No.8721826

>>8720632
>The mod's creator, TerminusEst13, has stated on multiple occasions that he will not add Strifeguy from Strife and Caleb from Blood to the roster, despite frequent requests. He will not add Strifeguy for balance reasons and Caleb because the character's attacks are too similar to those of others.

why is he cucking us

>> No.8721836

>>8720862
The best thing about UDB is the arrows it shows between line triggers and their actioned sectors.

>> No.8721842

>>8720212
This issue lies with the widescreen Hexen assets added to GZDoom itself, you can add Hexen.wad as a pwad before anything else to overwrite them, you'll still see some cutoff, but it will be in the other direction, you can do what >>8721806 said to fix it.

>> No.8721848

>>8721826
Have you seen what an unbalanced, unfocused clusterfuck Samsara Reincarnation is? He wasn't cucking us, he was sparing us.

>> No.8721859

>>8717864
Arm looks like that roid arm on the steering wheel meme.

>> No.8721860

>>8721826
Have you played the newer Samsara stuff? both characters have those exact issues. Same with most of the others.

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>>8721859

>> No.8721872

>>8721860
What was the reason for turning some weapon attacks into projectiles that would normally be hitscan, and is that as bad as it sounds?

>> No.8721879

>>8721872
>What was the reason
Couldn't tell you.
>is that as bad as it sounds?
Considering they don't even fire straight, it's worse.

>> No.8721881

Can you decouple the pistol and chaingun sounds in dehacked or mbf21?

>> No.8721883

I'm going to shill this again because its just that good. Play Ashes 2063. Fucking loved it.

>> No.8721896

>>8721881
MBF21 yes (look at Ad Mortem), any other DeHackEd format no. You need to define a custom bullet attack and use A_WeaponSound to play the sound you want.

>> No.8721903

>>8721742
Maybe an enemy with no SHOOTABLE flag. Would make it more obvious that you can't kill it by any other way. Still needs the SOLID flag in order to be telefragged.

>> No.8721904

>>8721848
But that's the point

>> No.8721907

>>8721881
>>8721896
You can do it in DeHackEd, but not without compromises, IIRC D4V used IoS scream functions for some of its weapon sounds to differentiate them.

>> No.8721909

>>8721848
>>8721860
If you want a balanced mod, you play the original Samsara. If you just want to mix and match content from your favorite shooters, you want Reincarnation. You can't go wrong either way, just don't expect a fair DM game in Reincarnation.

>> No.8721917

>>8721909
This. Why doesn't even the creator get this? So what if it's unbalanced, Strife guy deserves in.

>> No.8721920
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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/562860/view/3122689629911497250
tl;dr:
>no release date in sight
>13 maps
>1 new weapon
>new inventory items
>new enemies
>new ammo types
>new skill level

>> No.8721924

>>8721883
>played through it thinking it was the updated edition
Oops. Still amazing. Soundtrack is way too good.
>>8721879
>Considering they don't even fire straight, it's worse.
Wow what the fuck.

>> No.8721926

>>8721920
>no release date in sight
DAMN IT TIM

>> No.8721981

>>8721924
Make sure you play AFTERMATH and Dead Man Walking extra 3 maps.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/ashes-2063/downloads/ashes-stand-alone-version-101

>> No.8722017

>>8716950
>Bigger + more complex = better

It's sometimes the simpler designs that are much more fun and creative bruh, you shouldn't be *aiming* to make a clusterfuck map from the get-go.

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>>8721981
>Make sure you play AFTERMATH and Dead Man Walking extra 3 maps.
Yeah it's amazing.

>> No.8722146

>>8720114
more like a rails shooter, so you'd need to control movement with other buttons

>>8720429
neat, might be able to use this as a starting point if i have a go at it myself

>> No.8722154

>>8722138
Being a Fallout fan as much as a Doom fan it's weird I haven't played this yet. I really like the HUD.

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what is the lore implications behind nightmare mode of dooms1,2?

>> No.8722161

>>8722158
There are none.

>> No.8722163

>>8720481
nobody commented or watched my heckin cool replay ;_;

>> No.8722171

>>8722161
Why not?

Is it not cannon that enemies would teleport into the facility to fill vacant guard posts?

How did the facilities get over run in the first place?

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>>8722154
It was on my backlog for awhile and delivered well beyond already good expectations. It's a great time.

>> No.8722182

>>8722163
You got three replies before yours. Also you DID just play through E1M2 with Brutal Doom, there's nothing terribly interesting about that.

>> No.8722189
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I'm playing on the hardest difficulty now after breezing through regular difficulty. I am trying not to save scum as hard. Have you found the secret mini game?

>> No.8722191

>>8722182
figuring out how to actually record a demo with the doom engine with mods btw and then be able to rewatch it with the doom engine with mods was not easy and i had to comb through search results

all in all it was a successful test. And now I want to see what'd happen if I left the level and moved onto the next one and what would happen to the recording. Would it glitch or be perfectly fine?

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Gonna just post a few screens of my favorite area the Undercity. Don't hate me for playing with smoothing/anti-alising

>> No.8722198

>>8722194
>Don't hate me for playing with smoothing/anti-alising
No promises.

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>> No.8722208

>>8721836
Don't the older Builders also do that?

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>>8722194
>Don't hate me for playing with smoothing/anti-alising
eh whatever.
This one was my favorite, amazing song too.

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I saw this picture in out of bounds areas of many maps. I am convinced it's an Easter egg.

>> No.8722220

>>8722216
Do you have a screen of that creepy underground mural?

>> No.8722225

>>8722219
That's a Freedoom Wolfenstein texture.

>> No.8722227
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This one?

>> No.8722229

>>8722227
Yeah, nice, very great level

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The nuclear shadows here I liked. I didn't find them on any other maps.

>> No.8722234

>>8722182
>>8722191
also the interesting part is its not humanly possible to do that

i wanted to see something more in line with doom cannon; genetically or cybernetically modified soldiers with combat drugs constantly pumped inside their veins to induce constant rage and a brain chemical incentive (dopamine) to kill things as fast as possible to feel a brief relief to feel normal (not euphoria)

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I want a full Fallout 3 style world in this engine. the game is already very much like this, but it's more level/hub based rather than big word. Imagine one with miles and miles between cities using your bike to travel and all the hidden stuff that could be scattered around.

>> No.8722251

>>8722175
There are also versions of the maps that can be played with other gameplay mods, right?

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Also, this special level was so good.

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>finally beat Scythe MAP29
>mfw MAP30
How the fuck do I tackle this motherfucker?

>> No.8722270

>>8722208
Whatever doom builder 2 I was using didn't. I had to use the find and replace tool which was pretty annoying. Or maybe I just didn't have it turned on which is dumb if it wasn't on by default.

>> No.8722271

>>8722251
Yeah, that's the "sterilized edition."

>> No.8722272

>>8722251
For the first episode and Dead Man Walking, yes. I don't think Afterglow has gotten that treatment yet.

>> No.8722280

>>8721860
I feel like vanilla Samsara should have had Caleb instead of Duke Nukem for crowd control.
Think about it-- Caleb has mostly explosive crowd control weapons. Nerf the fuck out of the Shotgun and Tesla Cannon, as well as maybe the Napalm Launcher a bit. With the alt fires for the Tesla Cannon and Napalm Launcher, as well as all off the dynamite variants, you've got a character who's bread and butter is controlling and killing massive crowds of enemies. Duke Nukem just sucks

>> No.8722281

>>8722265
Is that a fucking gauss rifle?

>> No.8722285

>>8722281
Tier 3 junker hunting rifle. Basically yes. You hold M1 to charge it up. It's one of the best upgrades.

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>> No.8722293

>>8722269
LOTS of saves, lots of pain
might want to look up someone's playthrough
I don't even remember what I did in particular, it was just a panicked flight from relative safezone to relative safezone with gorillions of demons inbetween, took hours

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>> No.8722301

>>8722285
Oh fuck. Okay. I'll play it.

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>> No.8722304

>>8722269
good luck m8, i could only "beat" it with the key skip method

>> No.8722306

>>8722295
I will hate you because the game can already have good anti aliasing while keep the graphics crips. That shit looks like its smeared with oil.

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>> No.8722312

>>8722304
Oh I remember that, strafe running into the pond?
In my hubris I swore off of it after I found out about it

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Booba

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>>8722317
>>8722324
>>8722309
>>8722330
With all due respect mate, what the FUCK are you doing.

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>>8722332
I don't know man, I kind of like it.

>> No.8722340

>>8722330
man arms on that demon girl

>> No.8722341

>>8722265
What WAD?

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Come and break my Zandronum deathmatch server. Parias' Firestorm is known to crash things so try and spam that.
51.161.34.159:10666, /vr/tualboys Testing

>> No.8722353

>>8722332
I can accept some slight bloom and ambient occlusion, in ashes in gzdoom, it kinda makes the sky better and more atmospheric.
But fucking vaseline?

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>>8722332
Ok, so here is texture scaling off.

>> No.8722362

>>8722359
Thanks

>> No.8722364

>>8722359
Here is at 2X. I had it at 16x for all the previous screenshots, butI think this is a good compromise. Really adds to the detail of the sprites, but not so much as to make it look like they are melting.

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>>8722364
oops

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>>8722350
wednesday night washout

>> No.8722405

>thingken about some maps i could make in blood while going to sleep
>too scared to actually learn how to map

>> No.8722413

>>8722405
mapping for Build is a pain in the ass

>> No.8722426

>>8722413
Even more of a pain than dromed?

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>>8722340
fit women best women

>> No.8722471

>>8722462
I wish more artists knew about Crash.

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Ok, I'll just have to ask, which color do you guys think works best for him? Reddish skin or black skin?
For 94

>> No.8722494

>>8722481
black, the red skin looks like a normal cyberdemon with high blood pressure

>> No.8722514

>>8722481
Black looks cooler with the eyes.

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>>8722350
Thanks for the help everyone

>> No.8722539

>>8722494
>>8722514
I see. Asking people around, it seems most say black, and generally say that he stands out as there's no black colored monsters in Doom normally.

I was thinking maybe making his eyes a bright yellow, regardless of skin color.

>> No.8722556

>>8722481
Can you make the annihilator match thamuz colour?

>> No.8722562

>>8722539
That'd be good. I also feel like his metal parts could stand out a bit more, since they blend a bit.

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All this talk of cyberdemons reminds me of this thing by Mike12

>> No.8722583

>>8722568
Terminator energy.

>> No.8722585

>>8722539
>>8722562
I agree with this, maybe even push the flesh tone darker so the metal pieces shine through more. the brightest parts of the sprite are like a fog gray more than black

>> No.8722587

>>8722556
If you mean make him green, then no, if you mean make him darker skinned, then yes.

>>8722562
You're right. Maybe I can somehow work in some of that red skin color in parts or something.

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>>8722587
or maybe take the bloodier looking metal pieces from the red one to help accent the limbs more on the dark one

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>>8722587

>> No.8722612
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bane elemental
haha

>> No.8722617
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I can run ZDL launcher and GZDoom on STEAM DECK
It's very comfortable, left analog for moving and right touchpad for mouse look and gyroscope for fine aim. It doesn't differ much from playing a mouse really. My favourite way to play doom right now.
Any ideas for a footage to make? I got some Brutal Doom going, it's fun but I feel like a pleb

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>>8722612
Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask

>> No.8722641

>>8722617
and yes, with OpenGL ES driver it's incredibly smooth, 60fps and takes little power, full battery lasts 6 hours of playtime, 7-8 if you turn down screen brightness a little. Fucking incredible.

>> No.8722642

>>8722617
I challenge you to make a working control scheme for Hideous Destructor.
But you could also record some Treasure Tech.

>> No.8722647

>>8722619
His arms look even stubbier without the muscular shoulders.

>> No.8722680

>>8722647
He's a big guy

>> No.8722708

>>8722680
For who?

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>>8722708
This guy, I'd imagine

>> No.8722713

>>8722617
out of the box or you installed windows? honestly this is one of the biggest reasons i want a deck

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>>8722680
>>8722708

>> No.8722721

>>8722715
Congratulations, I'm using this second next OP

>> No.8722731

>>8722612
>can't see shit
>just wonders around bumping into things mumbling random bane quotes

>> No.8722741

>>8722731
>says "for you" every time it spawns a lost soul

>> No.8722750

>>8722741
Please Lord, let this happen.

>> No.8722756

>>8722530
94p boss leak.

>> No.8722759

>>8722756
I will admit, I am kind of fucking indignant that a realm667 palette swap is what has been holding back the project all this time

>> No.8722764

2048 units of /vr/ kicks ass i havent played a single bad level yet

>> No.8722767

>>8722764
How far are you?

>> No.8722769

>>8722767
just finished map 12 but the game crashed while i was posting, so redoing 12

>> No.8722775

>>8722769
Okay, enjoy the ride, anon. Just be warned there's a part where it comes to a screeching halt, but it recovers.

>> No.8722782

>>8722713
No Windows. GZDoom is working beautifully on Linux and working out of the box. You boot into the desktop mode, go into Discover app and and install GZDoom from the Flatpak library. From there you just put IWADS into GZDoom config directory, add GZDoom as a non-steam app to Steam, go back into gaming mode and it's ready to play.

ZDL also does work out of the box. You just download it and run it. You do need however a small shell script working as an executable for GZDoom flatpak but it's trivial. Then you add ZDL as a Non-steam app.

>> No.8722783

>>8722775
ive been given so many rockets not even a slaughter map could stop me. its not a hard .wad i'm just enjoying it. i hope you dont mean some keyhunt nightmare but i'll finish it for all the anons who worked on it

>> No.8722785

>>8722782
so you added ZDL as the non-steam game so you can quick swap load order? that sounds fucking rad im very excited to get one eventually

>> No.8722789

>>8722782
QZDL, to be exact (Qt fork of ZDL)
https://github.com/qbasicer/qzdl

>> No.8722801

>>8717330
holy kino

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>>8722785
It just works.
ZDL needs some setup but it's isn't rocket science. In desktop mode, you install GZDoom flatpak, download and unpack ZDL and add it as a non-steam game. Configuring source port is a little bit complicated because it's a flatpak, but it only requires creating a file with just a one shell command with parameter passthrough. This file will run GZDoom flatpak. The rest is history

>> No.8722832

>>8717362
>buy my tc.
literally me

>> No.8722846

>>8722829
One more thing. With 'Flatseal' flatpak (also available in Discover app) you can enable access to all devices for GZDoom. This will allow GZDoom see the actual controller. Then you can remap default left joystick WASD mapping to analog movement. Fucking glorious.

>> No.8722872

>>8722741
But his mouth is blocked. How will he spawn them?

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>>8722872
>But his mouth is blocked!
Casual.

>> No.8722895

>>8722872
that's what the holes in the back are for.

>> No.8722910

>>8722832
Revae, or porn TC anon?

>> No.8722913

>>8722910
There's 3 anons making a TC, and a potential 4th one who's "stealing maps" from here which I have 0 faith in.

>> No.8722986

Anyone know if the DIY project is still going on? Been awhile since I've heard from the guy managing it, both here and in the doomworld thread.

>> No.8722996

>>8722731
>>8722741
>>8722750
Would love to see it. Can you make a monster which just bumbles about like it can't see you?

>> No.8723071

What is the oldest version of GZDoom Ashes can be played on? Does the HUD scale on 4:3 monitors?

>> No.8723153

>>8723071
Hud is a bit too big and ugly on 4:3, but playable, you can press "-" and made it a bit smaller. Last version - dude, just look in the official thread on zdoomforums. I also recommend playing Ashes with Nashgore, it makes combat feel more impactful (but it has a bug with roaches who explode in giant bloody chunks, it's ok).

>> No.8723175

>>8723153
Enemies don't have their own blood?

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>>8722876
We shut them both

>> No.8723297

>>8721917
but that's what i mean
i'm pretty sure strife guy is in reincarnation

>> No.8723302

>>8721917
Does he though? His arsenal kinda sucks.

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How would you explain nightmare difficulty setting?

personally I think its the true doom experience unlike ultra violence or any of the easier difficulties. Personally I like to think if there were cultists who opened a gateway into the warp to unleash daemons you'd think that there'd be a huge number of them thus explaining why they'd just teleport in

honestly nightmare just makes the most sense to me. And its obviously more fun to fight hordes of cultists and daemons>>8720481 as this guy notices enemies spawns in he noticeably becomes more paranoid

Certainly I find nightmare more fun to watch than just ultraviolence like the regular human reaction time youtubers play on

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>>8723345
honestly Im excited to play through nightmare looking for secrets and then replaying the demo to watch

I've honestly seen my demo so many times its honestly delicious watching violence at high speed

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>>8717162
Well, that's a bit better: https://files.catbox.moe/obz3ze.webm
ignore the quacking, I had a livestream of ducks open
>base damage increased from 25 to 30 (enough to one-hit a Grunt)
>charged shots continuing through killed enemies
>secondary charge fire fan shot
>RNG removed from ammo cost of charged shots
The laser rifle *should* actually be useful now instead of just being something you shove in your back pocket in hopes of finding plasma ammo. Now back to bugs.

>> No.8723352

>>8723345
I'm not fond of nightmare, respawning enemies sucks and their behaviors get fucked up, most of the enemies just turning into turrets that shit out projectiles at you.

>> No.8723354

>>8723346
For (I'd like to say years) i've been left so unsatisfied with the quality of human reaction doom playthrough tubers

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>>8723352
Enemies that give a big fight before being killed is fun though

risk is fun. challenge is fun.
Respawning enemies add more entertainment value while the gladiator goes searching for secrets

Nightmare may be hard for you but that doesnt make it any less fun to watch. And honestly its a good thing nightmare is so hard.

>> No.8723368

>>8723361
I still disagree. It makes combat ultimately pointless as you're burning resources on something that's going to get back up. So it's less about killing shit for the fun of it and more about picking and choosing what to kill and avoiding fights wherever possible. The same logic applies to watching people go through maps in nightmare mode: If they know what they're doing, they're gonna avoid combat and focus on getting the fuck out of the map as quickly and efficiently as possible.
Also it's not really "a big fight" Cyberdemons stand their ground and spam missiles at you, so in a way they're LESS of a threat because you know they're going to be, as opposed to them firing a volley of three missiles and then moving a bit.

If I want a challenge, I go for HD.

>> No.8723369

>>8723354
You TAS'd Brutal Doom and literally played worse than an average FPS gamer with a half decent reaction speed. How do you find being that bad at Brutal Doom even remotely entertaining?

>> No.8723370

>>8723368
whatever shitter

>> No.8723371

>>8723368
This, there's no reason to play Nightmare for any reason other than being another speedrun category. Most maps aren't even properly designed for NM runs.

>> No.8723374

>>8723369
I know 100% for a fact this post is not
true

Cope shitter
>WAAAAAAAAH YOU CANT ENJOY TAS'D REPLAYS
>YOU MUST GRIND FOR YEARS TO GET GOOD LOOKING GAMEPLAY

>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT USE TAS FOR ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN SPEEDRUNS >:^O

I know what I got. I found entertainment better than the shit cornholio or whatever doom tuber shits out.

Tas'd doom speedruns are unwatchable and boring. I could watch my tas'd replays all day

>> No.8723375

>>8723374
Settle down, Beavis.

>> No.8723378

>>8723374
No, I mean you're literally just bad at positioning. You're not even running in and doing snapshots, you're slowly peeking corners, which you never do in Brutal Doom unless you don't even know how to play the mod.

>> No.8723380

>>8723374
Shut up, bunghole!

>> No.8723381

My TAS'd replays are different

It isnt a traced route that'll follow 100% of the time because its fast. High speed Violence is fun and I'd collect keycards and look for secrets just because it'd be fun to watch the carnage that comes along with it

like i said before. I know what I got

>> No.8723382

>>8723381
Why even TAS if you're not going to play optimally, then? Just because your aim is so bad you can't beat E1M2?

>> No.8723389

>>8723382
because running away from enemies and not seeking out carnage is cowardly and fucking boring

>> No.8723391

>>8723381
Since you clearly need Brutal Doom mansplained to you to some degree: Hitscanners are the most dangerous enemies in BD because heavier enemies are trivialized by headshots. If you slowly peek corners, you're gonna get your head blown off. If you need to peek a corner that you know there are aggro'd hitscanners behind, like in the secret area of E1M2, the optimal move is actually to sprint out of the corner at full speed.

>> No.8723393

>>8723389
You can seek out carnage and just be good and aim correctly and not need to TAS. Brutal Doom is an easy mod, all things considered. If you can't beat the stock Doom maps on Nightmare in BD, you should probably unironically just play an easier game until your FPS chops have improved. Y'know, simple concepts like slicing the pie would be helpful to know in a higher lethality environment.

>> No.8723395

>>8723175
You mean green and blue blood? iirc everyone has red blood, even toxic dogs with green blood on the sprite, but I liked it even more that way. Roaches have brown blood.

>> No.8723403

>>8722269
Official recommendation is to change difficulty, you can read it in readme

>> No.8723404

>>8723393
i dont want to see boring human reaction time

i want to see cool warhammer 40k eversor reaction time

You arent going to convince me make boring replays retard. Cope

I chose brutal doom instead of regular doom. Its pretty self explanatory what Im after

>> No.8723412

Can't seem to find FKER anywhere. Anyone got it plus the enemy only version?

>> No.8723414

>>8723395
No, I meant like a blood system, Ashes doesn't have its own? I have a sort of lightweight blood mod I "made" out of Project MSX that I like to use.

>everyone has red blood, even toxic dogs with green blood on the sprite
Weird. That's an easy fix.

>> No.8723425

>>8723414
I mean with Nashgore dogs have red blood. Base game has default GZDoom blood, it looks kinda boring

>> No.8723494
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my second test was a success!!

I can progress through levels starting from the original (when starting the game) and I experience no glitches or problems

>> No.8723498
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>Fastmonsters makes the game easier because... the enemies never stop attacking and sometimes stand still to do so!
>Nightmare is easier than Hard because... the enemies are more predictable!
>Serious is easier than Hard because... you get more ammo!
>Actually, Extra Crispy is a co-op only difficulty.

>> No.8723503

>>8723498
Why yes, Anon. Different games have different approaches to difficulty.

>> No.8723543

>>8723494
new carnage kinoino
https://files.catbox.moe/0vtyvg.mp4

>> No.8723556

A splash of cum, a long dick to stroke, urine and feces too, these are the things my favorite .wad would include

>> No.8723558

>>8723556
Yes, I too do enjoy HFFM

>> No.8723568

I want to see some UV-Fast demos of HFFM.

>> No.8723575

>>8723543
It just feels like I'm watching a normal gameplay video that's been sped up.

>> No.8723595
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>>8723575
>In order to act so efficiently, an Eversor Assassin is fielded with a wide variety of weapons and combat tools,...and a potent chemical cocktail of drugs that gives the Assassin incredible reflexes, enhanced durability and survivability and a single-minded rage to kill his targets.

>> No.8723597

>>8722138
>>8722175
just played a level of this and dam that is fucking fantastic.
doom community still churn out some fucking ridiculous shit at every turn.

>> No.8723669

>>8722154
You might be interested in Bloody Steel as well. It's more STALKER than Fallout, but still very good.

>> No.8723718

>>8722759
C'mon bro, it'll be cool, you'll be fighting TWO of them at once!

>> No.8723770

>>8723575
>>In order to act so efficiently, an Eversor Assassin is fielded with a wide variety of weapons and combat tools
Aim assistance being one of them I imagine. Their other clip has some good examples of “wiggling” the aim to find a target.

>> No.8723781

>>8723770
Not aim assistance

eversors are pumped full of combat drugs and so is doomguy just the UAC brand

>Combat drugs or combat stimms come from a variety of sources and have a wide range of effects, usually temporarily altering a user's mental state or increasing physical or mental performance in some way.

mentally the eversor while being infused with combat stimms would be able to process information and react to things much quickly.

in laymans terms: everything looks to him as slow motion so he can easily dodge bullets

>> No.8723794

>>8723382
>TAS
that makes more sense actually

>> No.8723804

What about 3rd person shooters.

Why don't they get more love?

>> No.8723808

>>8723804
There’s not many and you can just play Doom/Duke/Quakes in 3rd person.

>> No.8723816

I finished ultimate doom, doom 2 and final doom. What's next for a doom novice?

>> No.8723821

>>8723816
No Rest For The Living is a good choice.

>> No.8723826

>>8723804
if the game utilizes the third person perspective for gameplay purposes, it becomes a boring cover shooter with possibly shitty movement and turning

if it doesn't, there's no reason for it not to be a first person shooter, because the third person perspective makes shooting feel awkward, and isn't necessary to understand advanced movements

>> No.8723840

>>8723826
>because the third person perspective makes shooting feel awkward, and isn't necessary to understand advanced movements
They play the same, but if anything slightly easier because you can see around corners. It’s just often not as fun because a player sprite from earlier shooters isn’t as fun as the variety of weapon sprites (Shadow Warrior has some fun jumping and melee sprites). Quake 2 has decent third person animations with different weapon models, and I think when I messed with Quakespasm I achieved similar results for 1. There was also that “Quake 2 for 1” mod with a choice of player models using Q2 weapons but I lost the link to it.

>> No.8723865

>>8723840
i like being the person shooting, not a camera following the person shooting
makes pew pew good feel yes snappy responsive mmm delicious so crunchy

>> No.8723879

>>8723865
>i like being the person shooting, not a camera following the person shooting
Very cool anon. For people who like both they have the option.

>> No.8723892

>>8723879
people who like things i dont are wrong :)

>> No.8723908

>>8723821
Gonna try it now, thanks.

>> No.8723917

>>8716686
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ4UsdbTJio

more bloodborne mod stuff. enjoy!

>> No.8723976

>>8717575
Have you paid any attention to the marketing of Doom Eternal?

I love everything Doom and Quake, but the constant
>YoooooOOo dude u here da MEETTAALL oooh skunga-gunga
>LMAO DAISY THE RABBIT SO CUTE LE MAYO
>De skeledoots haha omg I love these skelly bois :3
fucken caner

>> No.8723986

>>8719085
>>8719109
So they did NOT palette swap the hell knight!
They actually re-drew part of him!

>>8719042
>>8719104
If you can't tell, look at the pecs.
The hell knight as harsh shading there, where as the baron of hell has smoother, textured shading.

>> No.8723992

>>8723986
It's probably an effect of inaccurate color conversion though, the harsher shading seems to be an effect of some of the pixels in Baron's sprite being converted into the same color from the beige/brown palette.

>> No.8723997

>>8723986
It is a palette swap, but they used different colors for his pants.

>> No.8724000

>>8723992
Oh, palette aliasing!
Didn't think of that.

But it is still useful for our poor color blind friend over there.

>> No.8724002

Does anyone remember that colorblind anon that would make mods with the most ridiculously colored sprites? I wish I saved some of his stuff

>> No.8724007

>>8723669
I did try that with GMOTA once. It did not mesh well. I'll have to try with something that fits.

>> No.8724025

>>8723908
It’s really great, but sadly not a megawad so prepare yourself for that so you don’t get that sad “…it’s over?” feeling.
After that, I’m not sure. You could try classier stuff like Scythe 1 or 2, or just go straight to Valiant for some more modern goodness.

>> No.8724030

Is Dead Man Walking a prequel? I'm looking at that mod by Zaero that sets it after the tutorial but before the main game, and the thread doesn't say anything about it.

>> No.8724041

>>8722617
gyro aim is great,though at least on my steam controller,the gyro jitters in DOOM.
though this genre is the only one i opt for moue on.

>> No.8724042

>>8724030
I thought it was a prequel to the second episode? It fits right in gameplay-wise, after the first Ashes chapter.

>> No.8724124

>>8724042
Yeah, it's weird, in the mapinfo he has the tutorial leading right into map50.

>> No.8724197

>>8723826
>if the game utilizes the third person perspective for gameplay purposes, it becomes a boring cover shooter with possibly shitty movement and turning
I dont see how that logically follows. Its just a coincidence that when third-person shooters started to become huge, thats the type of formula many followed. A third-person shooter can still play just like a classic FPS but with a different perspective. Heretic 2 is like that.

>> No.8724275

>>8723345
Amphibia map and/or mod pack when?

>> No.8724284

>>8720576
that’s not how that date works
logically if the manual replaces something that was amended in march 2022, then it was very likely issued some time after march 2022

>> No.8724290

>>8724284
I don't have the manual. Does it reference the demons in it? If so, it is totally possible that yes, it was issued after the events and changed on the day of the event to give demon fighting tips. The story of Doom 1 and 2 has several humans left alive and human manufacturing is still up and running for quite a bit of time. There would have been more than enough people around to rewrite and redistribute a flyer making use of Doomguy's knowledge.

>> No.8724295

>>8724284
Oh, but also I do know the date isn't canon. If nothing else because Romero said it wasn't I'm just talking.

>> No.8724328

>>8724290
You can check out the PDF of it here.

https://bdjogos.com.br/manuais/211-doom-super-nintendo-manual-usa.pdf

>”When the Creatures first appeared at the Gateways, their images were captures by remote video cameras.”
I’m not sure exactly what you’re looking for, but there’s some fun world building in the Doom 64 manual too.

>> No.8724374

>>8724197
if it doesn't, there's no reason for it not to be a first person shooter, because the third person perspective makes shooting feel awkward, and isn't necessary to understand advanced movements

>> No.8724389

>>8724374
>because the third person perspective makes shooting feel awkward
It plays the same. If it’s due to something like an awkward and floaty camera, that’s only an old Q2 mod and you can get one that stays still using KMQ2.
I also want to apologize to all the Serious anons for forgetting about the third person option available in all of the Sam games.

>> No.8724556

https://twitter.com/romero/status/1504536625900298240
Romero is holding an auction for one of the toy guns used for the shotgun sprite.

>> No.8724565

>>8724556
I'm curious how high it'll get. 100 bucks for that signed isn't too bad. It's a fun little piece. Much higher than that and it's a bit silly unless it's the actual one they used and not just a random one of the same model.

>> No.8724573

>>8724565
It's not the exact one they used but it's the very same model.

>> No.8724581 [DELETED] 

>>8724565
I'm pretty sure I've seen one in a glass case at Id Software's office, that would be the most likely candidate for the exact one they used.

>> No.8724596

>>8724565
I'm pretty sure I've seen one in a glass case at id Software's office in a Noclip documentary, that would be the most likely candidate for the exact one they used, since IIRC, the Eager Beaver chainsaw was in there, too.

>> No.8724603

>>8724565
I’m impressed that I can play Doom and completely forget that I’m constantly “shooting” from “toys”.

>> No.8724737
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Two questions:
1. Would anyone be down for some Serious Sam later today? I can host dedicated servers for TFE and TSE.
2. Would anyone be down for our own little Serious Saturday starting this week? It would also be later in the day (US central time that is).

>> No.8724747

>>8724556
honestly i dont value anything romero sells nowadays. he's practically giving out his signature and doom rarities, and being romero he's also trying to brand his own stuff as doom rarities (tried to make one of the selling points of his hummer h1 was the fact that he owned it). its just lame

although i would 100% get a keyboard signed by carmack

>> No.8724749

>>8724556
Didn't he just barely charge his fans for a map, give their money to Ukraine, and reap a bunch of press for it? Now he's reselling a toy just to make a quick buck? What a greedy fuck.

>> No.8724752

>>8724749
>>8724747
my sentiments exactly

>> No.8724771

>>8724565
It's past $200 now.
I'm surprised there aren't any other listings for that toy. I'd like to buy one just for the novelty of it.

>> No.8724776

>>8724737
>1
Okay.
>2
Depends on what the other Serious Saturdays group is doing.
Get a mumble server or something, text chat in Sam is too small for my aging eyes.

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We got something very special planned for tomorrow's Firefight. I better see you there or I'll personally slap you really hard.

>> No.8724928

>>8724771
Past 800 now. Yikes. I also agree with you. That would be pretty neat.

>> No.8724983

what time is thursday night throwdown?

>> No.8724997

>>8724983
6:00 PM EST

>> No.8725142

Thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AEvEIYzMbU

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I art Lord Blaz, King of Ye manlets!

>> No.8725183

>>8724776
You good to play in a bit?

>> No.8725194

>>8725183
Yeah, gimme 5.

>> No.8725201

>>8725159
actual size.

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What a year

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>>8722910
Not me. I try not to shill here.

>> No.8725270
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8725270

It is not Saturday
But I do not care

>> No.8725272

>>8725270
Sir, I'm not going to tell you again, you've had enough.
Also, yes.

>> No.8725275

>>8725272
I should've asked first, but you're cool with this, right? It's a standalone map with some easter eggs. This is one of them

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>>8725275
That's not me. But I'm fine with this. I'm also surprised someone's making his bar. All I ask if you're gonna do this, have the music change to the milk bar theme from Majora's Mask, midi or the N64 version, either's fine.

>> No.8725313

>>8725285
>If you're gonna do this
It's not an "if," buddy. I will. Releases tomorrow.

>> No.8725314

>>8725313
Is this tied with the friday night firefight?

>> No.8725318

>>8725194
It's been a long 5. You good, anon? Just hope nothing serious happened.

>> No.8725319

>>8725314
Yes.

>> No.8725324

>>8725318
I thought you'd post with the server.

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>>8725324
lol sorry, I was waiting for you to respond again
Use direct connect with 45.79.57.115 and default port.
Playing through TFE on serious with 10 lives each, because we're some SERIOUS motherfuckers. Anyone can join!

>> No.8725347

>>8723804
>>8723826
Ratchet & Clank is my fucking jam

>> No.8725365

>>8725347
Bro, same. At least the PS2 ones, anyway.
If and when I ever make a game, there will be likely be heavy R&C vibes.

>> No.8725457

>>8725330
had to restart it because lives don't reset per level lol

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C'mon /doom/ post something funny I'm bored

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>>8725496

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>>8725496

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>>8725496
tacodemon

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>>8725496

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>>8725496

>> No.8725528

>>8725501
>baron with no pants

wtf is that real

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>>8725496

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>>8725496

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>>8725496

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>>8725496

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>>8725496

>> No.8725572

>>8725203
Wasnt Shadow Warrior 97 too?

>> No.8725583

>>8725536
lel, is that a custom TF2 decal?

>> No.8725590

>>8725583
Pretty sure that's actually in the game. He actively works on it, after all

>> No.8725601

>>8725590
So it is, it's apparently on badwater of all maps but I can't for the life of me remember where

>> No.8725602

>>8725583
>>8725590
>actively
It was originally used as a signature of sorts on maps he worked on, but since it's one of many company logo textures, a lot of mappers have since used it elsewhere.

>> No.8725620
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Ah, scenic Kleer Alley.

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Fun times, but it's time for me to go HOM.

>> No.8725663 [SPOILER] 
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Made a callback to Forsaken Stockades in this map

>> No.8725670

>>8725663
Golgothan shit demon?

>> No.8725672

>>8725670
Essentially.

>> No.8725674

>>8725285
Hey Kegan, are you familiar with the mk-champions mod? It's fun but your mods have an odd issue with it, causing a few of the player's attacks to cause self-harm.

The ones I've noticed so far are:
Combined Arms: Artificer's pistol alt-fire shoots himself in the face, Past Linked is hurt by detonating Somaria cubes and the small embers from fire enchanted sub-weapons.
GMOTA: Doomguy is hurt by his sapphire bombs.

>> No.8725683

>>8725674
Not sure what's happening there. Do you get any warning text booting the two up?

>> No.8725694

>>8725663
poop

>> No.8725697

>>8725683
Not at all, and other than those attacks the mods work just fine together.

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>>8725697
So does it happen RIGHT at the start or after hitting an enemy of some type? I'm wondering if shit's getting reflected.

>> No.8725707

>>8725663
I am proud of seeing my legacy live on, and I am proud of you anon, for making a shitclogged sector toilet like that.

>> No.8725710

>>8725703
Arti's pistol alt just hits himself, but the Somaria cubes and Sapphire bombs can still be used if I quickly duck around a corner.

>> No.8725713

>>8725707
Don't get too proud anon, this isn't the only portion of your legacy I'm going to immortalize in this map.

>> No.8725717

>>8725674
>>8725683
Perhaps there's some overlap in actor names?

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>>8725713

>> No.8725743

>>8725703
>>8725717
What's especially strange is the mod doesn't give any enemies the ability to reflect attacks, those specific moves just hurt myself even if there isn't anyone else around

>> No.8725751

>>8725717
>>8725743
I have no idea, I just searched through the Zscript stuff of champions and didn't find any matching terms of what I use in Combined_Arms.

>> No.8725820

>>8725663
Alright. When's someone gonna make the Mucus Flow version of clogged toilets?

>> No.8725827

NEW THREAD
>>8725819
>>8725819
>>8725819