/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8708928]

BEHOLD.
The greatest party member in video game history.

[Anonymous No.8709096]

>>8708928
He looks like a very normal and trustworthy man

[Anonymous No.8709237]

>>8708928
who dis

[Anonymous No.8709257]

>>8709237
a humble archeologist

[Anonymous No.8709262]

>>8709237
Someone you can trust. Implicitly.

[Anonymous No.8709267]

>>8708928
I've never seen that guy before but I instantly know I can trust him with my life

[Anonymous No.8709584]

He barely even has different hair than Zio. Dark Force isn't very creative, is it?

[Anonymous No.8710181]

>>8708928
>Greatest
But that's not Jogurt

[Anonymous No.8710223]

>>8709262
Because of the implication

[Anonymous No.8710273]

>>8708928
>how do you do, fellow adventurers
>just a regular human explorer, exploran some ruins
>got a knife and some good gear for protec
>can't technique to save my life, when even a child can cast Res
>somehow can cast multiple suspiciously dark-natured magicks that can lay waste to an entire enemy line, though!
>ayo, sure you can join our motley crew

chaz you little twit

[Anonymous No.8710301]

>>8708928
U da man, Seff.

[Anonymous No.8710313]

>>8710273
you can always trust a random man who knows an ability called death spell

[Anonymous No.8710761]

>>8708928
You okay Seth? You look kind of bugged out

[Anonymous No.8710775]

In all seriousness, PS4 is a fantastic game, but none of the other bosses measured up to Zio. They do such a good job of building him up and then when you meet him, well, you know what happens. Man, I hated that bastard so much. The fights against him really get the adrenaline pumping. The music is incredible.
After him, the bosses are mainly just blobs, or a reference to someone most players never met, they don't really live up to the peak.

[Anonymous No.8711023]

>>8710775
Lashiec was pretty based too.

However, beating Zio gave me an awesome sense of accomplishment as a kid. Better than beating the game itself.

[Anonymous No.8711836]

>>8708928
>>8710761
HEY SETH CHECK OUT THIS GLOWY ROCK I FOUND

[Anonymous No.8711839]

>>8711836
Amazing find, what is-- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.8711857]

>>8708928
Wow he looks so strong I bet he doesn't even need any of that gear in a fight so I'll just unequip it real fast

[Anonymous No.8711884]

>>8710181
I always find it interesting how big an overlap the fanbases of Shining Force and Phantasy Star have.

[Anonymous No.8711953]

>>8711884
>both on the same system
>a system where RPGs of any kind were a rarity
>even rarer to get official localizations for the west

not really that surprising

[Anonymous No.8711974]

>>8708928
Seth's a good guy. Wanted to explore the cave and ruins but doesn't say no to running errands with my team for the Hunter's Guild, clearing out a few sidequests and such.

[Anonymous No.8711982]

>>8711884
they were probably the 2 most popular RPGs on Sega systems

[Anonymous No.8712040]

>>8708928
>The greatest party member in video game history.
Yanni?

[Anonymous No.8712576]

>>8708928
what game?

[Anonymous No.8712579]

>>8712040

[Anonymous No.8712586]

>>8708928
PS4 actually had a pretty solid plot and characters for such an old JRPG honestly

[Anonymous No.8712610]

>>8710301
Kek based. Nigga drawing dimes with that post

[Anonymous No.8712613]

>>8712586
What's that even supposed to mean? Old RPGs were often great at characters and plot. Modern RPGs are just bloated garbage that often mistake burying the player with annoying exposition, quirks, and pointless traits that don't add to the narrative makes for a better character when it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.8712714]

>>8710775
I do agree, but I like that he wasn't the big bad. Perhaps he could have lasted to the end and been fought directly beforehand, because Dark Force for all its high points isn't a personality.

[Anonymous No.8712721]

the any% speedrun is around 30 minutes now

[Anonymous No.8712909]

A based, relatively original thread gets no love? I hate this board. Especially the jannies, worst on the site

[Anonymous No.8712916]

>>8712576
Boku no Alys' Measurements. (BAM)

[Anonymous No.8712992]

>>8712916
*blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.8713056]

hi my name's hahn and i'm like seth but straight

[Anonymous No.8713096]

>>8713056
yeah, straight to the poor house after Alys is done with him

[Anonymous No.8713136]

>>8713096
>bleed your doctor dry
>he has no cash to get you morphine
>die in agony

[Anonymous No.8713379]

>>8713056
>>8713136
I use Hahn for endgame because I think his combo techs are fun with Chaz and Rune, even though Raja is, comparatively, complete bullshit.

[Anonymous No.8713383]

>>8713379
based and hahnpilled

[Anonymous No.8713456]

>>8708928
why was he disguised again?

[Anonymous No.8713478]

>>8713456
He was a manifestation of Dark Force, not even a person at all.

[Anonymous No.8713486]

>>8713456
he's an asshole

[Anonymous No.8713524]

>>8713456
Cat girl fishing with horns was a thing even back in those days.

[Anonymous No.8713530]

>>8713486
Always liked how the PSIV characters fight one Dark Force after the other, then finally the Profound Darkness at the end. The previous protags only fight one. Like the Dark Force is supposed to be a fight all in its own but is just a split of the Profound Darkness, but Chaz and co tear apart through all of them. Then Chaz gets his 1 year old waifu to nut in for the rest of his days. What a great game.

[Anonymous No.8713532]

>>8713530
Forgot pic.

[Anonymous No.8713773]

>>8713486
>every attack is targeted to hit this man in the nuts
Perfect teamwork imo

[Anonymous No.8714020]

>>8713773
>Dark Force, who can assume all sorts of bizarre shapes, turns humanoid and bends down and takes it in the crotch.
That thing wanted to be hit there. It made him feel alive. If he wasn't destroyed he'd by on deviantArt looking for bizarre fan fiction and pics of stuff. He is "dark" force after all.

[Anonymous No.8714059]

>>8711884
>>8711953
Yeah, I feel it'd be weirder to like just one of the two. At least as someone who played on the console back in the day.

[Anonymous No.8714106]

>>8713530
>>8713532
Sadly, supplementary material dictates that Chaz dies soon after his son is born. Nutting in his waifu for the "rest of his days" wasn't a very long time.

[Anonymous No.8714170]

>>8712992
Do you think when Zio has taco Tuesday and has to go to the bathroom that dark force watches him? What about fappage? I worry that might have made Zio lose it.

[Anonymous No.8714173]

>>8714106
Nuh uh! I heard that he was sick for a while, but somebody brought him a toy sword and he felt better.

[Anonymous No.8714403]

>>8714106
Oh well then his son can fuck his mom then in his stead.

[Anonymous No.8714541]

>>8711839
-IIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.8714549]

>>8714106
Literally a discarded concept that wasn't applied so, not canon.

[Anonymous No.8714556]

>>8708928
Was Seth even aware of what he was? Because when he transformed he surely was in great pain.

[Anonymous No.8714576]

[Anonymous No.8714583]

[Anonymous No.8714763]

>>8714576
:(

[Anonymous No.8714797]

Did Dark Force take over a guy's body, or was Seth a fake person created by Dark Force?

[Anonymous No.8714853]

>>8714797
Dark Force is trans-seth and his pronouns are "gonna get it soon" and "dead meat".

[Anonymous No.8715205]

>>8714797
seth was merely a performance by acclaimed thespian dark force
you may remember him from such films as "The Bask of Zio" and "Alys in Slumber Land"

[Anonymous No.8715506]

Best science fiction JRPG series is best.

[Anonymous No.8715530]

What the fuck was with PS3's enemy design?

[Anonymous No.8715954]

>>8715530
Another team working on it than the usual.

[Anonymous No.8716628]

>>8715530
Golden Axe devs being let loose.

[Anonymous No.8716856]

>>8714106
This was brought up again and apparently they went back on it when discussing possible PSV concepts, but it's all in the air anyway until hell freezes over and a new game comes out.

[Anonymous No.8716860]

>>8715506
It at least commits to idea of using space a helluva lot better than a certain other one

[Anonymous No.8717854]

>tfw we will never get a good pso or a good ps5

[Anonymous No.8718680]

>>8716860
A certain project by chance that was to be the be all of science fiction JRPG's?

[Anonymous No.8718749]

>>8717854
Play PSP2i, it's the good PSO

[Anonymous No.8719980]

How is phantasy star 0? First impression of it is it looks like wild arms or star ocean.

[Anonymous No.8720103]

>>8719980
Pretty good, but held back by the platform. I recommend trying it if you like original PSO.

[Anonymous No.8720121]

>>8712992
Zio's fight was absolute kino.

[Anonymous No.8720283]

>>8719980
good. it's like Phantasy Star Online, NOT like Phantasy Star Universe (which is disgusting)

[Anonymous No.8720316]

>>8714556
I don't think that was ever touched upon. He could have been a real human bean and DF simply possessed him and then burst out of his body (which would be painful. He could also be DF in disguise and maybe the light from the prism hurt him and then ripping apart it's skin to grow bigger might be painful too.

[Anonymous No.8720446]

>>8711974
THAT WAS SPLENDID

[Anonymous No.8720495]

>>8719980
I miss the /v/ lobbies when it released.

[Anonymous No.8721252]

>>8715530
I quite like the designs, I concede the animation and battle menu screens were terrible but the actual monsters were pretty great. Especially the robots.

[Anonymous No.8721419]

>>8708928
It hasn't even been a year since I finished Phantasy Star 4 and I barely remember anything from it lol
Actually it is vaguely coming back to me, he's like the villain disguised as some yokel for some reason and goes with you through the dungeon? lmao

[Anonymous No.8721748]

>>8719980
It's good and I like its art style more than any other, but every room being a separate area, and only 8-way movement, hurts it as a choice if you're just emulating and have other options anyway. It's better than PSU and AotI at least, so it's not the bottom despite limitations. PSP2 / PSP2 Infinity took the diveroll it added to the formula.

[Anonymous No.8721880]

>>8712909
Couldn't agree more, the tranny on our board can suck my fucking dick

[Anonymous No.8722518]

>>8720316
They'd already done the "possessed human" angle with Zio (well, more like indoctrined/brainwashed). No, Seth was straight up another Dark Force masquerading as a human to fuck with the heroes and learn the whereabouts of Rykros.

[Anonymous No.8723121]

>>8721748
What's aotl?

[Anonymous No.8723134]

>>8715530

[Anonymous No.8723267]

I like Demi, she's cute.

>>8710775
PS4 is close to perfect.

That said, I've tried and tried and as good as the story is I can't play PS2. It's too much of an unfun chore.

[Anonymous No.8723304]

alright brehs you talked me into it i wanna play it
what emulator is the best for it?

[Anonymous No.8723365]

>>8723304
Probably still Genesis Plus GX but PSIV is such a high profile game that I doubt any commonly used emulator fucks it up.

[Anonymous No.8723386]

>>8723304
Do what you feel most comfortable with. I used mednafen personally, but if you want to use GENS by all means, as long as you are enjoying it there really is no wrong answer. I do however recommend using a retranslation patch though as I think it entrances the text for an overall more enjoyable experience. A downside though is that some characters get renamed so you have to kinda read between the lines when discussing the game. See pic related, the original localization the MC is never Chaz, but the retranslation I played he is named Rudy.

[Anonymous No.8723392]

>>8723304 #
Do what you feel most comfortable with. I used mednafen personally, but if you want to use GENS by all means, as long as you are enjoying it there really is no wrong answer. I do however recommend using a retranslation patch though as I think it enhances the text for an overall more enjoyable experience. A downside though is that some characters get renamed so you have to kinda read between the lines when discussing the game. See pic related, the original localization the MC is named Chaz, but the retranslation I played he is named Rudy

[Anonymous No.8723397]

>>8723267
I also recommend trying a retranslation did PSII. I recall not enjoying the original release because I couldn't at a glance figure out the weapons. The patch I used changed the steel bar to steel claws and I suddenly knew they were Nei's weapons. Is amazing what a more modern localization can do for the game.

[Anonymous No.8723407]

>>8723267 #
I also recommend trying a retranslation of PSII. I recall not enjoying the original release because I couldn't at a glance figure out the weapons. The patch I used changed the steel bar to steel claws and I suddenly knew they were Nei's weapons. It's amazing what a more modern localization can do for the game.

[Anonymous No.8723453]

>>8723365
>>8723392
will do ill look into it, thanks m8s

[Anonymous No.8723763]

>>8723407
>I can't afford new claws
>hit them with some rebar I found out back instead

[Anonymous No.8724363]

>>8723392
Rudy is his name on the Japanese cart.

[Anonymous No.8724371]

>>8723121
Ambition of the Illuminus, the expansion pack to Phantasy Star Universe

[Anonymous No.8724658]

>>8724371
Universe had an expansion? Was that available on the 360? I had no idea.

[Anonymous No.8724667]

>>8724363
Rudy is a better name than Chaz.
>>8723763
I genuinely didn't know nei could equip them do I made it all the way to the trash heap with her using her starting weapons.

[Anonymous No.8724684]

>>8723407
A retranslation won't fix the fact you have to suffer through the gameplay.

[Anonymous No.8725008]

>>8724658
On PS2 and PC it was a separate release like a standalone game. The 360 release had it working like an expansion pack.

[Anonymous No.8725981]

>>8724684
The gameplay is fine. I personally like the simplicity of menu based combat.

[Anonymous No.8726294]

>>8724684
according to this chart, it actually does alleviate some of the suffering: by reducing grind and increasing walk speed, the pace is much breezier