/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8706373]

>games these days are so easy they just give you unlimited attempts until you clear obstacles through pure luck back in my day games were NINTENHARD and we didn't get unlimi---

Admit it, you memoryholed the fact that you used this constantly in order to convince yourself you were better at games than you actually were.

[Anonymous No.8706376]

>>8706373
I used your mom's pussy constantly. I'm your dad

[Anonymous No.8706380]

>he thinks my poorfag family could afford a Game Genie

[Anonymous No.8706419]

Pro Action Replay was better, but then again PAR was mostly for us Eurofags

[Anonymous No.8706437]

>>8706373
All of the best games on the NES had unlimited continues.

[Anonymous No.8706523]

>>8706373
Everyone loved the Game Genie. I used the Game Boy one to get all my friends Mew.

[Anonymous No.8706537]

>>8706523
This. A couple kids I knew even had save state devices but they were kinda janky and didn't always work right. No one gave a shit either, because we were kids more interested in having fun instead of malding middle aged manchildren trying to use le retrogaming as a substitute for a personality.

[Anonymous No.8706563]

>>8706537
>[b]alding middle aged manchildren trying to use le retrogaming as a substitute for a personality.
You mean resorting to retro gaming for a personality because during childhood that was all they knew.

[Anonymous No.8706581]

>>8706537
>No one gave a shit either
confirmed sat alone in a dank bedroom playing games by himself instead of on a couch with his bros

[Anonymous No.8706596]

>how zoomers think it was:
>"gen x used Game Genie all the time and claims they actually beat these hard games without cheats"

>how it was:
>get Game Genie for Christmas, plug it into SMB/DH and put in codes for lives and super jump I think it was
>play through a few levels thinking it's pretty cool being able to jump so high
>can already beat SMB without the cheats, so no real point
>start looking at games I own
>already beat Duck Tales
>already beat SMB2
>already beat SMB3
>already beat the first quest of Zelda
>decide to use cheats for the second quest since I kept getting filtered
>cheats don't change shit since I still can't figure out where the fuck some of the hidden passages are, get stuck anyways
>already beat Dragon Warrior 2
>already beat Dragon Warrior 3
>already beat Maniac Mansion
>could cheat to beat Friday the 13th, but the game already bored the shit out of me so didn't see the point
>could cheat to beat Wall Street Kid, but why the fuck would I want to play that ever again?
>maybe this will get me past that part in TMNT where I was stuck
>nope, still can't make that fucking jump and land in the fucking water
>end up plugging SMB3 in with P-wing cheat so I could fly around every level and explore
It was neat, but our best cheat was turbo-fire controllers. If you are emulating and don't have auto-fire options, then you are at a disadvantage compared to what we had. Don't play Blaster Master without turbo-fire, or enjoy your arthritis.

[Anonymous No.8706597]

I had a Game Genie but after using a couple times I couldn't be assed to put in those long fucking codes and I just played the games normally

[Anonymous No.8706605]

>journos complain that hard games are "gatekeeping"
>all the shit they encouraged like DLCs, microtransactions, Achievements, Steam is why they can't use a Pro Action Replay or download a trainer to cheat past the hard parts

[Anonymous No.8706670]

>>8706373
>game genie
>not master race golden finger
Exactly how embarrassing were you trying to make that pathetic projecting cope?

[Anonymous No.8706714]

>>8706523
A friend had it too and we got Mew that way
The code was freaking hilarious because it made every encounter a Mew, but it did weird thing to Trainers. Sometimes Trainers were simply Mews you could catch. Other times, the trainer encounter worked properly, but would send his pokemon and they all would have Mew sprites. I don't remember if these were catchable somehow with the code

[Anonymous No.8706715]

>>8706380
Same, frogfag same.

[Anonymous No.8706723]

>>8706596
>If you are emulating and don't have auto-fire options, then you are at a disadvantage compared to what we had.
Another thing I couldn't afford. I got exactly two (2) standard controllers per console. And if one of them broke, then god help me, it was a single player only console from that point on.

[Anonymous No.8706751]

>>8706373
The thing I liked best about the Game Genie was putting random codes in and seeing if I could figure out what, if anything, it did to the game.

[Anonymous No.8706769]

>>8706596

Yeah this is about what my experience was, except I had Nintendo Power or something for the Zelda second quest and I didn't run out of steam in TMNT until the literal Shredder fight (which I reached only once, with too little health to complete it on first sight). Game Genie was probably a cheat device for some, but for many it was just a minor novelty that let you do weird tricks in games you were already good enough at.

[Anonymous No.8706781]

>>8706751

I kinda wish I'd had the creativity for that then. I've seen some cool Game Genie glitchery in YouTube videos... it should have been fun to seriously mess around with the thing as a kid and produce some of those same cool effects (or like you say, produce seemingly no effect in which case you'd get the fun experience of hunting for an effect), but somehow I never bothered with it much.

[Anonymous No.8706789]

>>8706373

Actually though I did use it constantly with certain games. My Game Genie gripped games very hard and was able to make good connections with some that couldn't do it reliably with the NES itself. So some games would just always be used with it, but without any codes, so that they would function at all.

[Anonymous No.8706858]

>>8706380
>>8706715
also same

[Anonymous No.8706862]

>>8706596
The "Nintendo HARD" is a meme that only zoomers believe anyway.

Even Memeking Battletoads was just D-pad memorization like L-R-L-U-D, no different than DDR or other rhythm games.

Basically, Battletoads was Parappa the Rapper after stage 1.

[Anonymous No.8706895]

>"mom can I get game genie???"
>>"no you already beat your games too fast"
>"b-b-but it can also make the games HARDER!"
>she believed me

[Anonymous No.8706948]

>>8706373
Never owned one

[Anonymous No.8706972]

>>8706895
>"It makes regular Nintendo just like Super Nintendo!"
was my line.

[Anonymous No.8707008]

>>8706895
>mom can we get game genie?
>no we have game genie at home!
>game genie at home

[Anonymous No.8707034]

>>8706769
>Game Genie was probably a cheat device for some, but for many it was just a minor novelty that let you do weird tricks in games you were already good enough at.
Pretty much this. The fun of game genies and shit was getting to screw around and do things that weren't normally possible with the game. Playing games with invincibility cheats or whatever is just boring.

[Anonymous No.8707053]

>>8706769
>>8707034
you kids are delusional, look through the codebook it came with, it was a cheat device mostly used for infinite lives/ammo/gold/magic/whatever

[Anonymous No.8707063]

>>8707053

What is wrong with your brain, person probably a few years younger than me? Yes of course it was mainly presented as a cheating tool. I'm talking about what people actually DID with it. Nobody went through the book and used every infinite whatevers code to make every game easier. The book was just there to make sure you didn't have a boring first experience with the thing instead of a colorful one, and to make it look like it could be useful somehow. Yes it was in fact useful for people who did want to cheat - I'm just saying that probably a lot of people actually didn't seriously cheat, or at least didn't do it very much, because using super-effective cheats is boring, and using weaker ones that would still preserve some challenge is probably not something an ordinary child would have enough self-control for.

[Anonymous No.8707068]

>>8707063
tl;dr

what 99.999% of people did with it 99.999% of the time is give themselves infinite lives/ammo/etc...

[Anonymous No.8707085]

There is literally nothing wrong with giving yourself unlimited lives. Being forced to replay the entire game from the start just because you died an arbitrary number of times is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.8707232]

>>8706373
>be kid
>don't know shit about computers
>thing literally seemed like magic

[Anonymous No.8707563]

>>8707232
>be adult
>know everything about computers
>realize that the Game Genie literally was magic all along

[Anonymous No.8707712]

>>8707563
>be adult
>know everything about computers
0 people were fooled by this post

[Anonymous No.8707886]

>>8706373
BLINK BLONK BLANK BLUNK

[Anonymous No.8707887]

>>8706596
Nobody is ever thinking about Gen X

[Anonymous No.8707890]

gameshark was the real kino, especially for JRPGs since you could see all the behind the scenes shit like dev rooms, custom commands, shit like that, games like FFT became even better

[Anonymous No.8707913]

Can one finally load dsi romfiles straight up into MelonDS without some arcane sideloading raindance in this new version? What's the easiest way otherwise? I have to relearn this shit every time and I wonder if there's a better way.

[Anonymous No.8707927]

>>8707913
Based
It's great that /vr/ has actual moderation.

[Anonymous No.8708112]

>>8707887
*Nobodies are forever thinking about Gen X

[Anonymous No.8708116]

>>8707887
We and the boomers built all your cool tech shit. You are welcome, fucko. :^)

[Anonymous No.8708128]

>>8708116
>We and the boomers
Boomers (1945~1965) were retard teenagers at earliest and faggot 20-year-old hippies at latest who had all of the benefit with none of the work the WWII generation put a man on the Moon, perfected silicon computing and invented videogames.
You dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.8708159]

>>8706380
yep.. same here

[Anonymous No.8708160]

>>8708128
rent-free, zoomy :^P

[Anonymous No.8708197]

>>8706376
Daaaad! I told you! Not in front of my friends! Go home, you're drunk!

[Anonymous No.8708324]

>>8707913
you need to get the ds firmware and bios, just look it up, i'm sure you'll find it
idk what you mean by sideloading

[Anonymous No.8708335]

My brother used Game Genie with Battletoads to get infinite lives and practice but eventually beat it with no cheats and no warps.

[Anonymous No.8708345]

>>8706373
Bought a Game Genie for the NES and used it for fast money/exp for every RPG and infinite health and lives in every platformer/adventure game.
I used a GameShark CDX for literally every PS1 game I owned/rented because I could.

[Anonymous No.8708452]

>>8707068
I used mine back in the days to type random codes in to see what happens, rather than to cheat and beat the game.

[Anonymous No.8708482]

OP's post is a testament to the different mentality the two generations have.
OP can not even fathom the fact that most people were looking for a challenge and doesn't know that journos would take away points in a review when a game was too easy, and on the contrary give more points to hard games.

Of course there are exceptions, I'm thinking mainly of Pokémon and people using cheat devices to get Mews and other mons at lvl100 or with impossible moves so they can "impress" their non-friends

[Anonymous No.8708485]

>>8708452
That's the best part about owning one, making new challenges out of the games you've mastered, like making the goombas throw hammers in smb1. None of the code lists I find online ever have ones like that though,
Does anyone know where to find codes like that?

[Anonymous No.8708486]

With that said cheat devices were a rare thing. I've only one known person who had one; and myself I only have one for Saturn but only because it functions as a memory card and it's the only memory card I could find at a decent price.

That too is hard to understand when every emulator let's you input codes for all kind of cheat devices and every website lists the code; but unless you were on PC, you didn't have one and you barely knew someone who did.

[Anonymous No.8708489]

>>8706751
what pisses me off is that game genie codes encode an address offset and a data value, which can be easily expressed in hex, but galoob felt it wasn't mysterious enough so they put it through a substitution cipher.
the end result is that it's really hard to systematically use a game genie to poke at a game.
game shark fixed didn't do this, thank god

[Anonymous No.8708504]

>>8708486
>With that said cheat devices were a rare thing.
Bullshit. They sold them at every Walmart and Kmart and magazines printed codes for them. Galoob even had a game genie newsletter thing you could subscribe to where they'd send you new codes every month.

[Anonymous No.8708508]

>>8708504
maybe it's a US thing then, I live in western Europe and I've never seen a cheat device in a video game shop. Ever. They were mail order you'd see in ads

[Anonymous No.8709373]

>>8706714
Oh weird, the code I used made Mew become a low chance random encounter in a specific patch of grass in cerulean city.

[Anonymous No.8710308]

>>8708504
Just because they sold them everywhere doesn't mean people could afford them. People sell houses everywhere yet there's still a housing crisis.

[Anonymous No.8710815]

>>8708489
>mysterious enough
god ur dumb

it's a toy for kids they made it easier to use

[Anonymous No.8711125]

>>8708485
>bro, just like guess random memory addresses and write garbage to them to make the game more interesting by either crashing it or having no observable effect!

[Anonymous No.8712683]

>>8706373
I never knew that shit existed until I start emulating in the earlyy 2000s

[Anonymous No.8712707]

I prefered these ones
My father got me the MK1 for Mega Drive and SNES

[Anonymous No.8712717]

>>8706895
>it can also make the games HARDER
It absolutely can if you fuck up during code search/trainer mode.
I accidentally found all kinds of game altering or game breaking codes while experimenting with the AR/PAR.

[Anonymous No.8712872]

>friend has Megaman 2 but it's like the hardest game in the universe
>"hey you got game genie too, let's see if it can help"
>UNLIMITED HEALTH THAT'S PERFECT
>reach this boss

[Anonymous No.8712878]

>>8712872
lmoa nice

[Anonymous No.8712892]

>>8706380
game genies were cheap after about 1997.

[Anonymous No.8712902]

Super Mario World with the high jump cheat was kino AF. Also the Gameshark on N64 had a fun "Hold L to Levitate" cheat. Who doesn't love Link just flying away in the middle of a dialogue, only to have the NPCs nonchalantly looking up at the sky as link flies away in the middle of a monologue, or flying up to the moon in Majora's Mask so Link can play among the stars?

[Anonymous No.8713591]

>>8706373
And here I thought I was the only wimp.

[Anonymous No.8713609]

>>8706751
Same, me and my cousin used to make up codes. Some of the codes in the book with a few tweaks did crazy effect, more lives, invincibility time etc. Wish I had the patience to keep testing on emulators these days like that.

[Anonymous No.8713630]

>>8708485
That sounds cool
Gamehacking.org usually has tons of different effects listed for each game, have you checked there?

[Anonymous No.8713693]

>>8713609
>Some of the codes in the book with a few tweaks did crazy effect
I remember mistyping a code for Bart vs. the Space Mutants and somehow every coin gave you an extra life instead of every 10 or whatever it was supposed to be. Still couldn't beat it though.

[Anonymous No.8713825]

hold my mew

[Anonymous No.8713828]

>1990s
>game genies etc. were traditionally considered fine if not essential for hardcore gamers and used by all without issue
>2022
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE REWIND OR SAVE STATES NOOOOOO WE NEED TO MAKE FIFTEEN THREADS A WEEK ABOUT HOW THAT'S WRONG AND BAD
What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.8713829]

i admit it, i would give myself infinite gold in rpgs so i didn't have to spend an hour grinding every time i reached a new town

[Anonymous No.8713831]

>>8713828
Uhhh, no, anon. It was pretty common in school to bully the kid with the Game Genie

[Anonymous No.8713832]

>>8713831
>1990s
>bully kids by calling them a girl
>2022
>bully kids by not calling them a girl
What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.8713845]

>>8712892
Makes sense, only pooorfags and third worlders had a NES in 97

[Anonymous No.8713848]

>>8713832
>2022
>you're still obsessed with people just trying to exist
What went wrong for you, anon?

[Anonymous No.8713875]

>>8713848

[Anonymous No.8713878]

>>8713875
I just don't really see why it's healthy to continue to have this obsession

[Anonymous No.8714090]

>>8713832
Someone inserted the wrong codes IRL

[Anonymous No.8714110]

>>8706537
>A couple kids I knew even had save state devices but they were kinda janky and didn't always work right
I remember discovering you could use the Mega Memory Card with Pokemon Red/Blue and it let you load a save from Red onto Blue because they're the same fucking game, and eventually on Gold/Silver in the same way. Blew my mind as a kid.

[Anonymous No.8714153]

>>8714110
Wait, you mean from Red on Gold/Silver or just between the two of them?

[Anonymous No.8714163]

>>8714153
From red to blue or gold to silver. IIRC you can do that with all the paired Pokemon games as well if you have some way to mess around with the save data, just as long as you don't accidentally fuck yourself with the wrong orb in Ruby/Sapphire or something like that. That said, I know that in Black/White and Black 2/White 2 it glitches the game when going into Black City/White Forest, so it's best not to do it with those unless you can switch back.

[Anonymous No.8714185]

>>8706373
I didn't memoryhole that, I acknowledge and admit I used that thing all the time. I loved using that and breaking the game and cheating, added another element of fun to games.

[Anonymous No.8714191]

>>8713845
>tfw was poorfag in 1997 and had an NES
you know how hard it was to get new games to play then, man. I had to hope the video store had stuff it just couldn't get rid of and marked down cheap. It's why I wound up owning copies of Cybernoid, Starship Hector, and Totally Rad.

[Anonymous No.8714198]

>>8713845
You're either super young or super old. I'm leaning more towards the former who just looked at dates on wikipedia and making assumptions applying modern day logic to them.
In 1997 the NES was still huge although it was mostly for kids (as in before they became teenagers) and you could still find plenty of NES games new in stores

[Anonymous No.8714226]

>>8714198
m8, I barely knew anyone who still actively played nes in the genesis days, let alone 3 years after the release of the ps1 so you're either chinese/russian or lived in a very strange bubble of poorfags

[Anonymous No.8714268]

>>8714226
I was born after the NES came out and still had one, and I’m a middle class first worlder

[Anonymous No.8714313]

>>8714268
so you played your dad's old NES once and decided that means "the NES was stil lhuge in 1997", got it

[Anonymous No.8714435]

>>8713825
The added feature of a "code on/off" button was a lifesaver to prevent situations like this: >>8712872

[Anonymous No.8715004]

>>8714163
Oh gotcha

>>8714191
I feel ya, unfortunately I didn't get any from the rental stores. Wish it were easier to find famiclone carts here at that point, I could have had a ton of bootleg versions of SNES games I barely dreamed of... hell I think Street Fighter Zero 2 already existed.

[Anonymous No.8715006]

>>8714313
Not the same person

[Anonymous No.8715015]

>>8714110
Bizarre, what a niche product. Cool though
You're basically injecting a save into the cartridge, I've found some fun ways to do this to GBA games with a DS flash cart like fixing the Sonic Advance glitch where if you erase your save ingame then regular play won't funnel coins into Tiny Chao Garden anymore. Without outside intervention that cartridge would have just been fucked forever, not in the worst way ever, but fucked nonetheless