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[Anonymous No.8690079]

What's the most shocking/effective death of a character in a story-based /vr/ game?

[Anonymous No.8690223]

Phantasy Star 2

[Anonymous No.8690407]

[Anonymous No.8690468]

>>8690079

[Anonymous No.8690498]

Crocomire. The door locks behind you, so you fight him, but he's also a prisoner and can't go anywhere but to his death. While dying, with his last strength, he breaks the cage and frees you so that at least one of you can carry on and live.

[Anonymous No.8691046]

The part that gets me is generally how undignified his death was. He made a noble sacrifice but we see him get practically get tore up in front of us.

[Anonymous No.8691054]

Seeing his friends going down one by one and knowing his time is up is great. Everyone whines about NOOO KRILLE SHOULD'VE STARTED FROM SCRATCH but I had no problem with it since on replaythroughs you'd intentionally gimp galuf.

[Anonymous No.8691591]

>>8690079
It triggers Delita's CHAD arc, so it accomplishes its purpose well.

[Anonymous No.8691620]

>>8690079

[Anonymous No.8691647]

>>8691620
Its still hurts

[Anonymous No.8691651]

>>8691620
Fpbp unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.8691657]

>>8690079
What about a character that instead of dying ends up crippled and broken beyond recognition?

[Anonymous No.8691692]

>>8691657
The voiced version is even worse.

[Anonymous No.8691752]

>>8690407
Nooo...the horseface that was trying to cockblock me with my waifu died!

[Anonymous No.8691763]

>>8691620
Most overrated trash I've ever seen, propped up by Sonicfags who read too much into it and literally make things up to make the story sadder
Sonic Team does one (1) storyline that's totally pointless and has a sad ending and you fucking retards eat it up

[Anonymous No.8691776]

>>8691657
What gaem

[Anonymous No.8691782]

>>8691657
>instead of dying ends up crippled and broken beyond recognition?
I thought that was FF Tactics Advance for a second there

[Anonymous No.8691852]

[Anonymous No.8691860]

>>8690223
Dammit, beat me to it!

>Captcha: 0GN00

[Anonymous No.8691865]

[Anonymous No.8692248]

>>8691852
>Dad dies in front of you so you don't get killed.
>Still, you get captured and spend your childhood as a slave building a synagogue in the middle of nowhere until you can escape.
This one hits harder because you learn throughout the rest of your journey how much of a great man and loving husband he was.

[Anonymous No.8692389]

>Zelda is my... destiny? My fate...? Wake up, damn it! *SLAP* I really need to know if you were gonna say "cousin" before the end credits roll!

[Anonymous No.8692467]

>>8691620
>robot frame dies but the bird inside him reunites with its parents
>"effective death"

[Anonymous No.8692473]

>>8691852
His death always gets me because of how frankly brutal it is. You just see him get reduced into nothing more but a black spot on the ground.

[Anonymous No.8692498]

>>8690079

I think before it was memed to hell and death and actually was a sudden surprise - Aerith >>8690407
Today it is SUCH a trivially known fact that whole websites had it as name (aerisdies), but imagine being actually surprised back then by it.

[Anonymous No.8692525]

You were en route to tit fucking your 10/10 boss every day, but then this happens and you’re stuck with her ugly, annoying, womanlet sister. If I was Phoenix, I’d give up on life.

[Anonymous No.8692531]

The Cyan's Letters story in FF6 still chokes me up a little.

[Anonymous No.8692562]

>>8692498
>surprise

[Anonymous No.8692581]

>>8690223
Classic.
>>8691591
Classic.
>>8691657
Classic.
>>8691776
If you haven't played it you're seriously missing out.
Also
Greyfox
Emma

[Anonymous No.8692587]

Mami's canon death.

[Anonymous No.8692591]

Always felt terrible when I fucked up and let him die on my first playthrough, the scene that follows was almost too much for a SNES game.

[Anonymous No.8692606]

>>8692581
I do like the MGS games well enough in gameplay terms, but the contrast in weight for character deaths from the original MSX games -as primitive as they were- in comparison to the 3D games is really an indication of Kojima losing his way when creating involved emotional experiences: the original GF boss battle was a perfect climax, but in MGS you're robbed of agency in that regard, and even when it comes to dealing the final blow to Liquid.

[Anonymous No.8692609]

>>8692591
It's pretty weird to have the player character in a fucking game for children literally attempt suicide

[Anonymous No.8692613]

>>8692581
The weight of Emma's death was kind of deflated by Otacon's awkward mommy issues revelation pretty based in-retrospect for cucking his shithead cripple dad though.

[Anonymous No.8692614]

>>8692591
I didn't realize how dark the game was as a kid. I guess it's easy to miss when you're focused on beating the game instead of really thinking about the story and world

[Anonymous No.8692616]

>>8692587

[Anonymous No.8692627]

>>8692614
The world and atmosphere really blew me away when I was a kid, and I still love the dark Verneesque 1800's science fiction setting and art direction. To this day I feel like it's still the one leg up FFVI has on Chrono Trigger.

[Anonymous No.8692643]

>>8692627
Yeah, CT's story is very simple and focused and it works really well for the shonen-ish overall tone, but FFVI felt like a big-scope serious fantasy story some times; it's definitely the series at its peak on that regard

[Anonymous No.8692695]

>>8690079
Always had mixed feelings about this animated cutscene in the remake; it's really emotional and I like the creepy inserts of Janus predicting Crono's death, but in the end it lacks the blunt impact of the original in which out of nowhere your main character gets literally obliterated.

[Anonymous No.8692706]

>>8692389
Black magic

[Anonymous No.8692726]

>>8692389
Can this power be learned?

[𓆏 No.8692739]

>>8692606
I think there's something to be said also about the way that the less tech and less 3d and less camera movement that games have, even the lack of voice acting can lend itself to players paying more attention, using their imagination more, and interpreting events their own way instead of everything being animated for you with actors voicing it and the player just kind of drooling at the screen. For FF7 it's hard to see the death of Aerith as being the same in the remake even if it was a new thing, because it's going to leave little to the imagination and just going to kind of whiz by you.
Also, anyone know of any games with Tomino endings, aka everyone dies? Not just one character.

[Anonymous No.8692756]

>>8692609
FFVI wasn't a game for children, and I guess NOA's censorship policies were relaxing by late-1994 but still.

[Anonymous No.8692761]

>>8692581
>If you haven't played it you're seriously missing out.
Thanks dude. What game.

[Anonymous No.8692764]

>>8692726

[Anonymous No.8692772]

>>8692756
The game still was censored- all bars were changed into cafes, some female-like enemies were edited to show less skin and to get rid of the cigarretes they were smoking, and some dialigues were edited, like Edgar's interest on Relm or the drunk chick who teased Cyan by flaunting her breasts to him.
On top of that the GBA re release axed out the scene where a guard is beating the hell out of a chained Celes.

[Anonymous No.8692773]

>>8692609
FFVI is rated Teen, for aged 13+

[Anonymous No.8692802]

>>8692772
Would have been censored more if it came out any earlier. MKII on SNES came out around the same time and was uncensored, possibly the first game on a Nintendo console with graphic violence which was a big deal.

[Anonymous No.8692809]

>>8692562
Perhaps i'm just retarded but...Why having 4 age groups and not just out "11+" ?

[𓆏 No.8692838]

>>8692756
>>8692773
It's target demographic was children from about 7 or 8 to adults. Same aa shounen comics which are in a 'boys' magazine but expected to be read by adults as well. Comics were always more violent and lewd than games. Even now in Shounen Jump they have comics with people getting chopped up and guys touching ass and seeing titties.
A big giveaway is when these games were able to do more text and could use much more complex kanji they never used them and kept vocabulary and dialogue at a level that kids could understand, and didn't use kanji for many words that regularly use them because it might be too hard for kids.
If you compare it to SMT then you see SMT is for a slightly older audience as a child would have a lot of trouble reading it. If you then went to something like a simulation game or adult orientated game then the language and kanji etc... can get even more difficult.

[Anonymous No.8692842]

>>8692809

(Correct) Deistinction between child and adolescent. 11-14 pretty much says "a grown up child", 15-17 means " growing out of childhood, becoming young adult. There is HUGE difference between 13 and 16, bodily and mentally, a 16 year old is not a kid anymore but for a 13 year old most people would still use the term.

[𓆏 No.8692846]

>>8692761
タクティクスオウガ
Go play it (don't use guides like a pussy). Either the SNES version or PSP version is good, but PSP uses Olde English iirc while the SNES is normal. PSP is more content, although the SNES version has its own charm. One of the best games and best storylines ever.

[Anonymous No.8692848]

>>8692809
They did that eventually. Still, it's easier to visually scan the older label format since you don't need to actually read the number to get the gist of it and the level of "warning"

[Anonymous No.8692854]

>>8692809
To prevent another Hitler

[Anonymous No.8692878]

>>8692562
That picture could mean anything. You only know with hindsight that she's dead in that image.
Stop posting like a retard.

[Anonymous No.8692882]

>>8692878
LARP on, zoomsworth

[Anonymous No.8693013]

>>8692846
>Moon rune answer in an English post for a game that was localized
This board

>>8691776
>>8692761
It's Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together. I'm not sure why answering this question was so difficult for you to get a straight answer to.

[𓆏 No.8693025]

>>8693013
>Spoonfeeding for a highly known game with hints already in the thread
Heaven forbid he just google the Japanese name and find it himself.

[Anonymous No.8693091]

>Spent the first game trying to rescue Marian in the first game
>Gets gunned down at the start of the sequel.
Arcade version, of course. The NES version of the opening is just static images with text, and the ending adds some Disney bullshit where it turns out Marian was just in a magic coma all this time.

[𓆏 No.8693097]

>>8693091
What was he doing? Taking a shit in the hangar? And why did they have to make her sprite disappear, shouldn't he see her laying there?

[Anonymous No.8693103]

>Spent the first game trying to rescue Marian from the Black Warriors
>Gets gunned down by Machine Gun Willy at the start of the sequel.
I'm talking about the Arcade version of Double Dragon II, of course. The NES version doesn't even show her being gunned down (it's just tells you what happened with static images and text) and the ending adds some Disney bullshit where it turns out that the Ultimate Warrior (a character who never existed in the arcade games) simply put a sleeping spell on her all this time.

[Anonymous No.8693157]

>>8693097
The arcade versions of Double Dragon 1 & 2 were pretty much straight to the point. The first game starts with the gang members beating up and carrying off your girlfriend and then the second game starts with her being gunned down, all using in-engine assets. No fancy attract demos explaining everything through long-winded expository text. Double Dragon 3 did end up having a more conventional attract demo, but its story somehow makes less sense than the first two games.
>Here's a completely suspicious creepy old lady who asks Billy and Jilly for their help. Let's help her for no particular reason.

[Anonymous No.8693697]

>>8691865
>Phoenix Down and Curagas don't even fucking work
Coldest moment in FF history even if it's not as memorable or iconic.

[Anonymous No.8693764]

>>8692838
Lol that's like saying Berserk is shonen.

[Anonymous No.8693784]

>>8690223
i came here to post this
tired catchphrases aside, PS2 was surely the first game to tragically kill your favourite party member and waifu right in front of you and definitely the first game to kill your entire party, and kill the world you were suppose to save AND clue you in that our planet Earth is also killed, at the end

[Anonymous No.8694084]

>>8691046
He went out fighting an infinite swarm of moon bugs to get you off the planet. It was violent and brutal but undignified was the last thing it was. Dude went out like a goddamn champion.

[Anonymous No.8694179]

>>8690079

[Anonymous No.8694286]

>>8692587
cant believe they wont allow us to gut the bastard

[Anonymous No.8694310]

>>8693784
great way to encourage replays *sitcom laughs*

[Anonymous No.8694320]

>>8692562
pal scum. my black label ntsc-u doesn't have this

[Anonymous No.8694351]

>>8691046
>>8694084
i think it is dignified in concept but the presentation is so lurid that it just makes you feel sorrowful and demoralized. not that that doesn't make it incredibly effective. it's just that the tone is very different from "went out like a champ." that makes it sound like he went out grinning and laughing swinging his poleaxe. in reality he begs granas with his last words to get the rest of the party to safety, then simply lets the monsters go at him as he clutches his wound.

[Anonymous No.8694402]

>>8694320
I also hasn't the exquisite minimalistic perfection of the japanese and european releases sadly

[Anonymous No.8694406]

It also hasn't the exquisite minimalistic perfection of the japanese and european releases sadly

[Anonymous No.8694604]

>>8690468
is this dude after mario or just minding his business on a normal day?
he doesn't come after you.
Does he know that he'll kill you if he touches you?
Is he doing an attack that they couldn't animate?

[Anonymous No.8695568]

>>8692498
It was known from the beginning. Trailers teased the fmv of cloud laying aeris to rest and people who played the Japanese release spoiled it well before it came out in the west.

[Anonymous No.8695617]

Now and always.

[Anonymous No.8695637]

>>8690079

[Anonymous No.8696056]

>>8692838
>It's target demographic was children from about 7 or 8 to adults
I would say 9+ is a much more reasonable target age range, with the core being somewhere around 12. 9 is about the age when most kids are able to start reading real books on their own.
>>8692773
>FFVI is rated
semi-arbitrarily by some random committee of political busybodies after the fact.

[Anonymous No.8696610]

>>8692525
>preferring used up older sister

[Anonymous No.8696650]

>>8695568
Yep, I remember being 6 when it came out and just came back from my grandmas funeral where we let her sink into a lake. Once I got home, my Japanese friend imported FF7 and spoiled it all for me. This all really happened and was pretty much the standard for everyone in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.8696671]

>>8691591
You're right. But it's the only video game death that really made my blood boil for its unfairness.
Fuck Algus and fuck Zalbag.