Tokimeki Translation

[Anonymous No.8687983]

It's here
https://twitter.com/RetroTranslator/status/1500318436391817219

[Anonymous No.8687992]

Neat. I'll take a look at it tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.8688092]

>>8687983
Maybe I'm a brainlet but I can't seem to get the MSU patch working in bsnes, just snes9x. I've tried prepatching and both using an unpatched rom with the IPS applied as headered and unheadered. Just get a black screen in bsnes.

[Anonymous No.8688108]

Spoonfeed pls. Can't get the patched ROM to work on anything.

[Anonymous No.8688110]

I'm sure CD Romance will have a pre-patched version soon enough

[Anonymous No.8688119]

>>8688108
Check the CRC on your your prepatched SFC and check if it matches the one in the readme. On Emuparadise the rom listed as Rev. A is correct.

[Anonymous No.8688120]

>>8688092
You need an .xml file to play it in Bsnes. It can't play ExLoROM games without help.

[Anonymous No.8688126]

>>8688120
I thought builds since 107 or so deprecated manifest bmls? Or was that just in the forks? I guess I can try generating a manifest file.

[Anonymous No.8688128]

just patched the rom with no intro set rev1, works as intended, another great work from tom.

[Anonymous No.8688142]

anonfiles[]com/Ddc3o6Mexa

[Anonymous No.8688147]

Call me when they translate the Saturn version.

[Anonymous No.8688168]

>>8688147
No one gives a fuck about the Saturn

[Anonymous No.8688170]

>>8688142
Virus

[Anonymous No.8688174]

Rev1 is what got it for me. Have it on my Vita now.

[Anonymous No.8688183]

On original SNES too.

Time to get comfy.

[Anonymous No.8688272]

Is there a separate patch for just the MSU-1 without the translation? I haven't seen something get translated with MSU-1 already applied when I never saw the plain patch.

[Anonymous No.8688282]

Anyone got the game to work on original hardware? It is almost perfect, thought it was fine but once I get into the dialog and stuff the screen gets all fucked up. Works fine on SuperNT.

[Anonymous No.8688284]

>>8688282
Are you using SD2SNES with the MSU1 patch or the base tl patch on some other cart?

[Anonymous No.8688287]

>>8688284
Everdrive FX Pro, base TL patch.

[Anonymous No.8688529]

Good job on translating this, but I'm really not interested. Dating sims bore me to tears.

[Anonymous No.8688605]

>>8687983
>DDS Translations
Did they help Tom or did Tom make the translation and got some hacking help from DDT?

[Anonymous No.8688613]

>>8687983
>tom and dds

Nope not supporting these terf translators

[Anonymous No.8688614]

>>8688613
(You)

[Anonymous No.8688616]

>>8688613
Kys tranny
Ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.8688631]

>>8687983
Oh neat

[Anonymous No.8688651]

Let's dream that Based Tom can collaborate with Supper to adjust and inject English script into the original PC Engine version.

[Anonymous No.8688658]

>>8688613

[Anonymous No.8688660]

>>8687983
If only he could have kept the original title intact. "Heartthrob Memorial" doesn't sound right.

[Anonymous No.8688710]

>>8688605
They did the hacking part.

[Anonymous No.8688725]

ty anon. will enjoy

[Anonymous No.8688732]

>>8688710
Ok good to know. Tom sometimes has amiss translation but overall he's not as fucking bad as [spoilerdeepdeeptranny[/spoiler] translations

[Anonymous No.8688736]

Ok good to know. Tom sometimes has amiss translation but overall he's not as fucking bad as deepdeeptardation translations

[Anonymous No.8688745]

>>8688710
>>8688736

[Anonymous No.8688747]

>>8687983
It’s the wrong fucking version aahahjaha imagine playing tokimemo for the first time WITHOUT THE FUCKING VOICE ACTING AJAJAJAJAJHAHAHAH FUCKING AHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAAHAHHAAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111one

[Anonymous No.8688762]

>>8687983
patched it 3 diffrent times and tried running it in 3 diffrent emulators but it keeps bringing up a blank screen when i boot.

[Anonymous No.8688776]

>>8688110
Its up lazy friends.

[Anonymous No.8688784]

Working fine with the MSU hack on Snes9x Retroarch.

How do I meet other girls, I'm on October already and besides Shiori I just know the girl from the club I joined. Two other girls bumped me but I don't know their names. Is it scripted and they only show at fixed times? Do I need to quit my current club and join others?

[Anonymous No.8688810]

>>8688784
women don't want to talk to you if you aren't attractive to them

[Anonymous No.8688814]

>>8688784
Is the instruction manual not translated?

[Anonymous No.8688819]

>>8688810
The stats management is stressing as fuck.

[Anonymous No.8688825]

this is harder than elden ring

[Anonymous No.8688828]

>>8688825
Of course it is, it's about pleasing girls, the hardest thing know to man.

[Anonymous No.8688832]

>>8688168
Its the only version worth playing.

[Anonymous No.8688848]

I can confirm that the MSU-1 files work flawlessly on a bsnes emulator.

[Anonymous No.8688864]

playing sfc tokimemo as your first foray into it may literally be worse than not playing it at all, the drop in quality/compromises made are equivalent to like “the handheld version” of some game you like

[Anonymous No.8688914]

>>8688864
seething saturnlet

[Anonymous No.8688921]

>>8688864
>handheld
Game Boy version translation when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHqqhJoML4o

[Anonymous No.8689054]

>>8688914
>mfw owning and enjoying every system equally

[Anonymous No.8689104]

>>8688864
MK2 on GB is actually the best way to play it

[Anonymous No.8689118]

Would have liked to see the PC Engine or PS1 version first, but this is still big. I've wanted to play this for so long.

[Anonymous No.8689129]

>>8688848
Did you make a manifest file, I couldn't get it to boot in bsnes

[Anonymous No.8689132]

>>8687983
>https://twitter.com/RetroTranslator/status/1500318436391817219

The return of the king.

[Anonymous No.8689194]

>>8687983
>MSU-1 files are not required to play the translation, but are highly recommended for the best experience. They add an animated intro video, voiced confessions, and voiced ending song.
uwu

[Anonymous No.8689217]

not working on bsnes gotta try sne9x

[Anonymous No.8689272]

>>8688864
Jokes on you, the GB version of Tokimemo is very charming and soulful. >>8688921

[Anonymous No.8689307]

>>8687983
I literally just came to /vr/ to check if there was a thread about this
Isn't the SNES version the shitty one?

[Anonymous No.8689360]

>>8689307
It's not fully voiced like the CD versions but it's a good enough port. This group has specificaly knowledge about SNES hacks so that's why it's the one they released. And they even went the way to add this MSU version with the intro and voiced confessions. For now, let's enjoy what we have, shall we?

[Anonymous No.8689374]

>>8688120
>You need an .xml file to play it in Bsnes.
an empty xml file or do i need to write something in it?

[Anonymous No.8689387]

>start focusing on looks
OH GOD IT'S HAPPENING!

[Anonymous No.8689398]

>>8689387
Finally! She accepted it! My first date! of my whole life

[Anonymous No.8689407]

>>8688147
they are actually working on it belive it or not

[Anonymous No.8689409]

>>8688613
bait

[Anonymous No.8689441]

>>8689129
basically, yes. check your file's crc before patching use rev1 version.

[Anonymous No.8689819]

>japanese game series known around the world by it's original japanese title
>some faggot comes along and translates one
>changes the title
This is the most retarded shit.

[Anonymous No.8689845]

>>8688747
>WITHOUT THE FUCKING VOICE ACTING
Thank you anon, now i have one more reason to play this version.
>voice acting
kek, what a cuck.

[Anonymous No.8689891]

>>8689407
Please just use a fixed width font with 6 pixel wide characters to simplify the hacking involved and get it done.

[Anonymous No.8689892]

>>8688747
The script is more or less the same between the two versions, so it just boils down to whether anyone can manage to get the Saturn version to display English text correctly. So far, people have been trying for two decades.

[Anonymous No.8689898]

>>8689892
>So far, people have been trying for two decades.
Not for Saturn, no. Various people looked at PSX and PSP ports of different TokiMemo titles and found the internal way text is stored to be hell. Same for the SNES version actually, but DDS pulled off the incredible feat. PC Engine versions are rarely considered seriously because of the console's heavy reliance on voice acting in general, and it alongside Saturn had no respectable emulators for general use let alone debugging.

[Anonymous No.8689905]

>>8689898
Saturn Is actually pretty Easy to hack
The entire script Is in One file in shift-jis
If anyone knows how to hack Saturn games and out vwf or reverse graphics It can be done pretty easily
I want a Tokimemo 2 translation the most but the best version of the First game might be a good thing anyways
There's also a project to translate the win95 version too of anyone cares

[Anonymous No.8689915]

Someone should hack the original title into the title screen, this new name fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.8689924]

>>8689915
Don't forget to add a loud cracktro to the game.

[Anonymous No.8689931]

>>8689924
MODE 7

[Anonymous No.8690110]

>>8687983
it's been like
forever

[Anonymous No.8690125]

>>8688174
That's awesome! how'd you do that? Like to make it like an Vita game app?

[Anonymous No.8690126]

>>8689819
>>8689915
>Game gets translated into English
>Suddenly the name isn't in Jap
Say it ain't so, how could this happen

[Anonymous No.8690137]

>>8690126
I laughed but it's like if they translated the Shin Megami Tensei snes version as True Goddess Resurrection. The game and series are known worldwide by their Japanese titles. Just seems jarring.

[Anonymous No.8690142]

>>8690126
Even Sega wasn't stupid enough to localize the Sakura Wars series as Cherry Blossom Wars. They should've call it Heartthrob Omoiire.

[Anonymous No.8690145]

>Go for it Goemon
>Heartthrob Memorial
and now everybody can thank this anon righ here >>8690137 for
>True Goddess Resurrection

[Anonymous No.8690191]

Bros I think she's the one..

[Anonymous No.8690195]

So is anyone gonna ever fix the latest Goemon 3 patch so it runs on the FXPAK Pro? I messaged Tom, and he told me that neither him or DDS have one to test it on

[Anonymous No.8690217]

Can someone upload the patched non MSU rom? My computer is outdated as fuck and the Mega link for the patch won't work for me.

[Anonymous No.8690220]

>>8690191
at the beginnings of the dates, when your character or the girl ask each other things like「待った?」it's not to inquire "You were waiting for me?" even though the literal translation is just "Waited?" it's part of the system by which you can determine "who is more into whom." if your character goes to the date site and the girl is already there, he is basically asking "Were you waiting long?" as part of etiquette, which we do in english as well.

i have tried to swear off this kind of facile translation nitpicking but i swear to fucking god i have found something notably daft like this about every screenshot i've seen of this translation

[Anonymous No.8690262]

>>8689905
>There's also a project to translate the win95 version too of anyone cares
this is going to be the one that eventually gets done, because that group has it basically figured out. unfortunately, that translation is going to be a facsimile of tim rogers' style because they are worshipers of his, but at least it'll be the real game and not... this

[Anonymous No.8690271]

>>8690262
>>8689407
Where would I watch the progress of these hacks

[Anonymous No.8690301]

>>8688658
funnily enough, he didn't need to change newhalf to tranny just like he didn't need to change tokimeki to heartthrob now
localizer syndrome

[Anonymous No.8690321]

does the Saturn version have that many differences from the PS1? i've done two runs of the PS1 version and always assumed they'd be identical

[Anonymous No.8690361]

>>8688529
Ok fuck off now. I've been waiting to play this for almost a quarter century you mincing little faggot

[Anonymous No.8690384]

>>8690262
God i've honestly hated tim rogers for over two decades now. Anyone remember that faggots insert credit days where he always had to mention the blue hearts and what soda he was drinking? Omg it's all flooding back now ;_; i loathe him so much. There was a guy named rud13 on that forum who was his sycophant and was trying hard to be timmy rogers 2. Cringe.

[Anonymous No.8690393]

>>8690384
Am I weird that I've never ever heard about Tim Rogers until he made the Tokimeki video? Everyone treats it like if Kurt Cobain came back to Earth to review a dating sim and I'm really confused by the author worshipping.

[Anonymous No.8690419]

>>8690393
Tim Rogers has been around. Hell, when I heard about that video my first thought was "he's making videos now?"

[Anonymous No.8690420]

>>8687983
Is there anything I should look out for in this game? Or is it just smooth sailing as long as you're not completely daft?

[Anonymous No.8690426]

>>8690393
I think that's great you weren't aware of him. He is responsible for new games journalism as they tried to call it back then. He fucking sucks so much.

[Anonymous No.8690428]

>>8690420
It's a game that requires trial and error.

[Anonymous No.8690430]

>>8690393
I've never heard of him, either. I think he's someone you had to have followed game journalism to know or something.

[Anonymous No.8690434]

Who are the girls who everyone is aiming for? so far I have unlcoked yukari and mira ends

[Anonymous No.8690437]

I remember him being linked from those old HG101 articles about the Final Fantasy series.

[Anonymous No.8690449]

>>8690434
unlocked* the boimbing sistem is fucking annoying fair warning for everyone aiming for mira: dating her made every single girl to hate you

[Anonymous No.8690458]

>>8690393
he was only "internet famous" for a long time, but much of what you hear now is sort of propagandized, often by tim himself. because even by that metric he was only known to people on the internet who also were both into games and prehistoric shitposting, in the way that like... seanbaby is notable, though that comparison doesn't really hold up under scrutiny. he kept screaming until the bottom fell out from online/gaming journalism and he came to be viewed as notable simply by virtue of outlasting anyone with integrity or taste.

hence his ascension with kotaku, the video game version of such riveting outlets as jezebel and deadspin. he took advantage of this platform to make a number of videos that continued to balloon in length with time. some of these videos are actually very good, like his dragon quest ones, and the crown jewel, his ff7 series. this along with the connections he'd made throughout the years failing out of any career in writing, game development, music -- you name it -- allowed him to finally con his way into whatever you'd call what he does now. it's a masterclass in the notion that putting in enough time and effort and sticking around for long enough will eventually cause people to break character and finally acknowledge that you exist. that, and give you the ability to reap "legacy" benefits.

[Anonymous No.8690461]

>>8690384
I hated his awful 10 page meandering essays during his Kotaku days. Used to read them for a laugh.

[Anonymous No.8690505]

You can get into the Christmas party with high fitness stats even if your style is lower than the cutoff.

I had no idea.

[Anonymous No.8690548]

>the game supports SNES mouse
Very cool!

[Anonymous No.8690554]

>>8690458
I just want to know if you posted on insertcredit or selectbutton alongside tim at any point from 2003 to 2008? If you didn't or you didn't spend time playing xbox live with him then you don't really know him. He is loathsome.

[Anonymous No.8690563]

>>8690554
no. but does it count for anything that i really dislike him as a person regardless?

[Anonymous No.8690571]

>>8690563
In my book that counts for a lot.

[Anonymous No.8690596]

>>8690321
・The main addition to the Saturn version is the option to go confess to a girl yourself instead of ending with one confessing to you. It doesn't give you the main ending but it's sort of interesting. Most fun use of it is to make a girl hate you and then confess to her.
・A couple of censored graphics kinda-sorta restored
・Different mini-game(s) [I forget if more than one is different]

[Anonymous No.8690613]

>>8690596
I'm surprised that Sony was strict on nudity during the PS1 era when both Sega and NEC/Hudson were more relaxed on the issue.

[Anonymous No.8690615]

>>8690420
a single playthrough isn't super long so you can just experiment

[Anonymous No.8690656]

>>8687983
damn cant make the patch work, is there a guide of how to do it?

[Anonymous No.8690686]

>>8690656
i downloaded the rom from cdromance and it worked great. you could put it in the folder where the msu patches are as well

[Anonymous No.8690691]

Those mini games fucking suck. Shit game.

[Anonymous No.8690697]

>>8690596
I still love her

[Anonymous No.8690720]

>Super Everdrive max ROM size 7.5MB
Fuck this gay earth.

[Anonymous No.8690729]

>>8688832
Don't wait, get started now.

[Anonymous No.8690731]

I've never seen anyone I wanted to hang out and murder with my fists as much as Tim Rogers. Fantastic game insight, complete fucking douchebag person. Playing old games with him sounds like a blast though so long as he shuts up about designer chairs and namedropping developers he's met like a tool.

[Anonymous No.8690743]

>>8690301
Don't get your panties in a bunch. The same message is delivered. This is hardly some Working Designs tier made up bullshit to get worked up about.

[Anonymous No.8690749]

>>8690137
Both are awkward as fuck in English. Digital Devil Story/Saga would have been a good localization and branding choice, but it all worked out anyway. People love SMT here now.

[Anonymous No.8690819]

>>8690301
"Newhalf" means tranny, regardless of the title of a game.

[Anonymous No.8690824]

>>8688747
They made an MSU-1 compatible patch for that, oblivious faggot.

[Anonymous No.8690829]

>>8690137
You can keep the filename as Tokimeki Memorial if you want. They're trying to translate everything, regardless of the popularity of any naming convention.

[Anonymous No.8690831]

What is Tokimeki like?

I'm not sure if I mixed things up here, but is that the one that is extremely autistic and pretty anti fun in how you progress and actually get the girl you want?

[Anonymous No.8690839]

>>8690829
Tom has a track record of translating titles with no regard for tradition. Tetris Battle Gaiden became Tetris Battle Spin Off. I admire his boldness.

[Anonymous No.8690841]

>>8690137
To be fair, true Goddess Resurrection is a cool name

>>8690142
It depends on the series anon, Like Pocket monsters was changed to pokemon or Rockman to Mega man or Farm story was changed to harvest moon

[Anonymous No.8690859]

>>8689898
>considered seriously because of the console's heavy reliance on voice acting in general
I guess you and some friends of yours can always record English dialog. 'Cause why the hell not?

[Anonymous No.8690864]

>>8690720
If your Flash cart won't fit the translated ROM, just do this.

>boot the translated ROM in SNES9x on your laptop
>boot the Japanese ROM on your real SNES
>just use the emulator+translated ROM to "play along" and follow the dialog

yes it's a little silly but it's a way of getting around it.

[Anonymous No.8690868]

>>8690864
What if RNG goes out of sync between two games?

[Anonymous No.8690879]

>>8690868
doesn't the game just use a pseudo-random hash? i know I remember reading about a guy who tried the BASIC RND function on a real C64 and on VICE and they both made the same result.

[Anonymous No.8690883]

>translated ROM don't fit on an Everd...
wait, are these guys trying to translate the Japanese dialog in full? because back in the day official translators would just crop it down and have simplified dialog to fit in the same ROM space.

[Anonymous No.8690892]

>>8690864
I thought about doing this if I ever wanted to play Metal Slader Glory because I'm told the English translation won't fit on Everdrives unless you have the Pro. It might work a little easier with adventure games like TMHS than RPGs though.

[Anonymous No.8690914]

>>8690393
Pretty much the same. I watched the review (as I'd been interested in Tokimeki for a while after the parody in La Mulana but it's all mysterious and mostly untranslated) and cringed at his obsessive oversharing.
Then I found out that he'd been doing the same shtick since the early 2000's.

Anyway, long story short is that there's a good LP on the SA lP archive which goes into all the games in detail so nobody need suffer through this shit again.
https://lparchive.org/Tokimeki-Memorial-Series/

[Anonymous No.8690945]

>>8690883
Translation doubles the rom size from 4MB to 8 MEGABYTES!!1! It's easier to fit data that way instead of gutting the internals trying to fit everything.
Also, someone please check the rom in hex editor if it includes a message to HG101 like the previous projects.

[Anonymous No.8691047]

>>8690321
Seems like it was common practice to Konami to release PS1 titles for Saturn with different things. Happened with Castlevania and Suikoden too, but the additions and changes to both of them are treated more like curiosities and the PS1 is still the go to versions today. Can't say if it's the same feeling for TokiMemo though.

[Anonymous No.8691097]

My nitpick about the translation is something that happens a lot in some official translations too, the choice of changing the surnames to the first name. I get it it's more natural for us, but Japanese has this thing of only using first names for people they are close. It just doesn't feel authentic for me.

[Anonymous No.8691104]

>>8691047
That was just a thing in general. Like how the Saturn port of Megaman 8 has some bonus bosses.

[Anonymous No.8691162]

>>8690126
Honestly, I think it's just kind of dick move, since he knows absolutely nobody's going to start calling the game that.

[Anonymous No.8691174]

How's ResetEra taking this news? I saw (via search results about any buzz for this) that they had a forum thread up about it, but I ain't clickin that shit.

[Anonymous No.8691176]

>>8690819
I thought newhalf was a more "cute" word than the more confrontational "tranny" would be.

[Anonymous No.8691179]

>>8691162
Who cares? At the very least, people know what "Tokimeki" literally means, now.

[Anonymous No.8691184]

>>8691174
What is there to take?

[Anonymous No.8691189]

>>8691162
Nigga what, its a translation, if people really thought this hard and cared this much then they would have either translated it themselves or learned Jap. Some of you anons are acting like he added direct memes or politics into the translation

[Anonymous No.8691191]

>>8691176
Tom (the translator) didn't even realize tranny was a controversial word. It's only gained that connotation in the last few years, really. I remember they often used to call themselves that, at least over a decade ago.

On newhalf, just like with tranny (at least in former days), it can be used playfully or derogatively, depending on context, as usual. There's a lot of mocking of transexuals/crossdressers in the Goemon series, in general, so it's not the translator's fault for accurately representing the meaning of the Japanese developer's content.

[Anonymous No.8691195]

>>8691184
Well-known game being finally playable thanks to a "transphobe."

[Anonymous No.8691203]

>>8691191
Also, no one of the offended tried to be civil and contact them directly about it, the HG101 guy made a ruckuss and a mob start calling the translators nazis and such. Pretty lame.

[Anonymous No.8691204]

>>8691174
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tokimeki-memorial-super-famicom-english-translation-has-been-released.559528/

Its normal fan shit over getting it in English. Rent free dude. Rent free.

[Anonymous No.8691208]

>>8690892
There are two English translations Metal Slader Glory, so if one doesn't work with the regular Everdrive, give the other one a try.

[Anonymous No.8691214]

>>8691191
I don't know how it is in Japan but I assumed the difference was the -a vs -er variants of n-word. Like you wouldn't translate one into the other without changing the connotation. Ignoring anything about offense, I personally didn't think those words meant *quite* the same thing colloquially.

[Anonymous No.8691221]

>>8691214
I think the only difference is just context. I'm not sure how "tranny (derogatory)" can be rendered in Japanese other than by "newhalf", myself.

[Anonymous No.8691262]

>you take one girl to a date
>all the others start asking you to take them too
Do women really?

[Anonymous No.8691271]

>>8691262
yes, is a classic. it is because they can see you as a worthy mating partner.

[Anonymous No.8691276]

>>8691262
What the fuck is her problem??

[Anonymous No.8691307]

>>8691221
Mister Lady (a bit outdated) or
Okama, which doubles both for people doing gay stuff and men crossdressing
New-half is very neutral

[Anonymous No.8691312]

>>8691262
>>8691276
Holy cringe, why couldn't they just translate it normally instead of making it animw club weeb cringe?

[Anonymous No.8691317]

>>8691312
I fail to see what you are seeing as weeb about the translation besides the whole game being an anime tropes galore.

[Anonymous No.8691351]

The time spent waiting for this translation you could've learnt 5 languages.

[Anonymous No.8691357]

>>8691317
The way the dialogue is translated. Normal people don't talk like this, only people like weebs in an anime club or at an anime convention talk like this. Having to read 'Pwetty pweaaase' is just embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.8691368]

>>8691357
It's just this girl. It makes sense for her. Chill out.

[Anonymous No.8691371]

>>8691357
I mean, I guess if you have a stylistic problem with it, the text is what it is short of someone doing a re-translation of the dialogue. It could also be how it is written. Do keep in mind when this was written and what time period this is supposed to represent, we're talking roughly almost 30 years in the past. Language has evolved quite quickly since we got portable computers that can not only call people but write electronic near real-time messages to others.

[Anonymous No.8691382]

>>8691371
I don't think using unfunny 2010s slang in a fan translation is any worse than official translations using unfunny 90s slang like "gnarly" and "rad", which did happen sometimes.

[Anonymous No.8691398]

>>8691371
if you read stuff like LIFE magazines from the 50s the language is more stiff and formal than how people would write today. yes you do notice language evolve over a single human lifespan.

[Anonymous No.8691401]

>>8691307
>New-half is very neutral
Even Kurt Kalata of HG101 admitted it isn't always. Goemon series has also used okama and has mocked shemales several other times.

[Anonymous No.8691417]

>>8691357
Its a Japanese dating sim. It is literally the exact place that cliche came from.

[Anonymous No.8691419]

>>8691382
or dated, cheesy 90s pop culture refs like Bart Simpson or Bill Clinton jokes. official translations weren't above that either.

[Anonymous No.8691446]

>>8691357
>A 90s japanese game has dated text and characters that seem like clichés
Oh say it ain't so anon, What's next? They are dressed out of date?

[Anonymous No.8691496]

>>8691357
Hint: Normal people sure as fuck don't talk like anime characters, either. Uguu.

[Anonymous No.8691502]

>>8691382
People will have problems with it hence the Working Designs retranslation patches. I'm personally okay with seeing it if it fits and isn't a blatant mistranslation but it locks your translation into a time period and is of lower quality compared to reading something like older translations of something like Les Miserables and still reading fine.

>>8691398
I mean yeah, but even just talking about the last 20-30 years or so, it has changed quickly, moreso with writing and how much slang has been quickly used. I can imagine someone in the 50s trying to read 4chan posts and not having any idea what we would be talking about for very ironic or bad posts.

[Anonymous No.8691512]

>>8691502
And I read Bruce Catton's books about the Civil War and he observed that Civil War soldiers' letters and diaries lacked the expressiveness or articulate language people have today (today meaning the 1950s when he was writing).

[Anonymous No.8691543]

The 1950s were a special case. That was right in the middle of a period of prescriptive language pretentiousness. It's where we got "rules" like not to split infinitives (ex: to boldly go) or end sentences with a preposition. It was all the English class nonsense we were taught by boomer teachers who were taught it as kids themselves. That eventually started to break once people and many professional writers realized it was junk.

[Anonymous No.8691580]

>>8691543
Split infinitive shit is nothing more than a result of poor language design. English is trash and the fact that infinitives require "to" in order to exist is a failing of the language itself.
Don't end a sentence with a preposition is also a dogshit rule founded on the implication, but not the necessity, of a word following it. Other language use this exact construct to great effect, by design (this "rule" would drive a Japanese learning English native insane) and it's founded on nothing but the language itself being poorly thought out.

[Anonymous No.8691648]

Even with the CDromance file I am only getting a black screen on bootup. I have the rom file in my roms folder, in a subfolder with all of the MSU files.

Do I need to rename the MSU files to "Tokimeki Memorial - Densetsu no Ki no Shita de (Japan) (Rev 1)", or do I need to rename the cdromance files?

I've been trying a few things and can't seem to get it to work.

[Anonymous No.8691656]

>>8687983
nude graphics hack when?

[Anonymous No.8691660]

>>8691580
There's nothing wrong with splitting an infinitive though. It has nothing to do with English as a language. The "rule" only came into fashion because people wanted to make English, a Germanic language, behave more like Romance languages rooted in Latin. But the only reason you don't split infinitives in Romance languages is because you literally can't since infinitives are single words in them. It's square peg, round hole shenanigans.

[Anonymous No.8691667]

>>8691648
What emulator are you using?
>rename the MSU files to "Tokimeki Memorial - Densetsu no Ki no Shita de (Japan) (Rev 1)"
Much easier to rename your ROM file instead.

[Anonymous No.8691686]

>>8691648
All the files must be in the same folder and have the same name.

[Anonymous No.8691706]

>>8691097
Tom isn't that retarded...right?

[Anonymous No.8691712]

>>8691648
Use snes9x 1.61 for fuck's sake.

[Anonymous No.8691714]

>>8691667
SNESx9, this is my subfolder and the black screen I get. As stated I am putting the CDromance rom into this subfolder. Maybe there is a setting on snesx9 I am overlooking?

[Anonymous No.8691717]

>>8691714
Is the CDRomance version patched with the MSU-1 patch? It's probably better to patch your own rom to be sure.
Patch tokimeki eng then the msu-1 patch to the Rev 1 JP ROM.

[Anonymous No.8691724]

>>8691648
the rom file has to be in the same folder as the MSU files and the same name as them.

I patched the Rev 1 version and it works fine on my flashcart and in snes9x.

[Anonymous No.8691729]

>>8691706
He just made a localization choice, like he did with the title.

[Anonymous No.8691734]

Seems to be working well on my flashcart, nice

[Anonymous No.8691735]

>>8691729
As long as it's not a huge thing I guess it's fine but this is a dating sim, the nuance between calling someone with their last name and their first name is huge in such games.
How was that handled? Or does it never come up in the game?

[Anonymous No.8691737]

>>8691714
Why is your file an SNES9x ROM file not a .sfc?

[Anonymous No.8691740]

>>8691714
>>8691717
>>8691724
thanks for the help, I was a little bit retarded with my attempts when the solution was far more simple than I imagined. The 1.5x versions of the emulator I had simply weren't working.

>>8691712
so this anon had the right idea. Now I can live in the kawaii japanese high school of my dreams, and reach out to the tr- I mean TAKE A CHANCE.

>>8691737
I think I set it at some point to be "snesx9 is the default program" for sfc files

[Anonymous No.8691743]

>>8691735
I honestly don't know the game well enough to say if it's ever adressed. All I know is in the original the character names in text boxes and your phone book are surnames and in this translation they're not.

[Anonymous No.8691746]

>>8691740
>I think I set it at some point to be "snesx9 is the default program" for sfc files
Oh ok, so it was just an emulator version problem, enjoy your high school dreams, anon.

[Anonymous No.8691753]

>>8688529
It's not just a dating sim, senpai. This game is legendary. It's developed by many of the same team that created Castlevania Rondo of Blood, and strangely, you can tell. It has a tactile feel to it where the choices you make actually feel like video game levels rather than just picking choices on a list. Also, these girls will make you feel. It's a dating sim for people who don't like dating sims.

>>8688147
This would make my life. Years ago I learned just enough Japanese to sort of play this game. It's just not the same without voice acting. Hell. I'd even take the PlayStation version.

[Anonymous No.8691760]

>>8691743
I just hope that it's fixed in there. In places such as phone books I'd understand.
>inb4 there's a scene where someone checks the MCs phone and realizes that someone is named by their first name and gets jealous

[Anonymous No.8691887]

Do I have to call Rei on every available phone time slot or can I miss out some for his ending?

[Anonymous No.8691946]

>>8691204
I was just hoping for a laugh from one or more of them having one of their mental breakdowns over first-world "problems". If they just are excited for it, that's fine, too.

[Anonymous No.8692067]

Someone asked about the Saturn version being translated so here you go. https://twitter.com/burntends2/status/1500661289307324417?t=rEPe6wezdLIOO5LZ9w5Gug&s=19

[Anonymous No.8692073]

>>8688183
Based District 9 Enjoyer

[Anonymous No.8692090]

>>8692067
>burntends
That guy is an editor that replaced Momotarō with Goldilocks in Sakura Taisen GB and is always posting "fuck weebs that want an accurate translation" and the like. If he's on the project it's fucked.

[Anonymous No.8692332]

>>8692090
>Sakura Taisen GB
I haven't actually played it, but wasn't it partly machine translated? At least according to VNDB. Making excessive localization rewrites on top of that is practically a recipe for absolute garbage that bears no resemblance to the original script.

[Anonymous No.8692401]

>>8691214
>n-word
Just say nigger. It's not a big deal

[Anonymous No.8692406]

Why did he translated Tokimeki to Heartthrob?

[Anonymous No.8692415]

>>8692406
Did you know that it is in fact a different Japanese game known as Donkey's Dong Panic?

[Anonymous No.8692425]

>>8692406
Because it's a bad translation and you can see from the screencaps, like the awkward English in the OP, the cringe shit in the other dialogue, the fuck up of surnames, etc... Anyone wants to post Japanese and English side-by-side to compare and I bet it's wildly off. Tokimeki isn't even the exact same as heart-throb.

[Anonymous No.8692495]

>>8692332
>wasn't it partly machine translated?
Maybe. According to the patch's readme he started out by trying to shove the script through DeepL line by line and iron out the kinks, realized that was too much then got a translator some time later. Who knows if they kept any of that though.
As for Tokimeki, maybe someone else beating him to the punch on it might rein in any ridiculous changes he might do. Probably not. But enough of that from me.
>>8691887
You have some leeway. There's no clear indicator that you made enough calls though so maybe keep a save in the last month or two.

[Anonymous No.8692642]

>>8692406
Tokimeki means "heartbeat"/"heartthrob". Pearl-clutching weeb faggots are getting upset that this translator, as he has always done, decided to translate absolutely everything for the sake of thoroughness, most likely for the sake of all audiences rather than the most hardcore fans (who already can't stop boasting about how much Japanese they keep saying they know). I kept my file named "Tokimeki Memorial" for personal taste and because I agree it's already well-established brand, but I don't mind at all that the title screen is a translation of that.

Either way, as with the four Goemon SNES games, there will be a hack that reverts the translated title to a transliterated form, so everyone should calm their tits.

[Anonymous No.8692652]

>>8691382
>pwetty pweese?
>2010s
???

[Anonymous No.8692656]

>>8692090
He doesn't actually do any of the actual work to be honest. He considers himself a "Project Manager". If the rest of the team has the balls to tell him to go pound sand when he suggests something stupid it should be fine.

[Anonymous No.8692662]

>>8692652
Forgive him anon he's underage

[Anonymous No.8692679]

>>8692642
It's so weird to me. It'd be like complaining that the Rockman & Forte fan translation changed the title to Mega Man & Bass.

[Anonymous No.8692683]

>>8692642
>there will be a hack that reverts the translated title to a transliterated form
With a loud cracktro!

[Anonymous No.8692697]

>>8692642
the way some of you white knight this particular translator makes me think either someone close to him lurks here or you just champion him because he said "tranny" once and rustled twitter jimmies

[Anonymous No.8692720]

>>8692642
I'm not sure if you're American or not, but here the term "heartthrob" is almost always used to refer to hot guys (boy bands, Johnathan Taylor Thomas, Leonardo DeCaprio, ect). It's really, really weird seeing it in the title of a game about dating girls. Unless the main character is meant to be the "heartthrob", I guess. Even "heartbeat" would be been bizarre-sounding.

[Anonymous No.8692731]

>>8692697
No, we treasure this particular translator because he's actually good and worked for free on many games that the community wanted for decades. As for the incident mentioned, he meant no ill intention while accurately translating a joke and the"cancellation" he suffered by the fags from HG101 and ResetEra using the internet mob against him was evil and unfair.

[Anonymous No.8692738]

>>8692697
That is a retarded accusation, that would be like me saying that the only reason you dislike him is because he put tranny in one of his translations

[Anonymous No.8692765]

Is the patch fucked or something? I'm just getting a black screen with bsnes. Made sure to check that it was the correct version too.

[Anonymous No.8692770]

>CDromance didn't bundle the MSU version
Sigh if you wanna do the job right...

[Anonymous No.8692785]

>>8691262
Kinda. My gf's sister randomly added me and started talking to me on Snapchat. Pretty sure I coulda fugged if I pushed my luck, but could have been a trap.

[Anonymous No.8692826]

Wow these clothes makes all the difference for this girl.

[Anonymous No.8692930]

>>8692697
>this is your brain on people who say that the translation is fine
it's embarrassing reading some of the posts here

[Anonymous No.8692978]

>>8691204
You will never be a woman.

[Anonymous No.8692984]

Anyone got this running on a SD2SNES?

[Anonymous No.8693006]

>>8692720
ときめき
"Palpitation Memorial"
It sounds neat.

[Anonymous No.8693007]

Something is fucked with the hacking DDS Translations did, doesn't work on bsnes, and other things.
I know older fucking romhacks working on the bsnes. What the fuck did they do?

[Anonymous No.8693042]

>>8692978
He lost.

[Anonymous No.8693051]

>>8693006
That makes it sound like a hospital game. Though having "Memorial" in the name does that anyway.

[Anonymous No.8693058]

>>8693007
If it works on real hardware like a flashcart then that's an emulator problem. Though I have a hard time believing bsnes has an incompatibility.

[Anonymous No.8693080]

>>8690271
the pc version in the actionbutton discord
the saturn one here https://segaxtreme.net/threads/tokimeki-memorial-text-insertion-help.25233/#post-182654

[Anonymous No.8693105]

>>8693080
The Saturn one doesn't even have a dedicated hacker, just a useless "lead localizer" begging other people to do it for him.
The PC one is gonna be extremely compromised, if it ever even gets finished.
The graphics suck, the hacker said he wants to remove or ignore certain parts of the game, and that Youtuber is doing the script.

[Anonymous No.8693113]

>>8690393
Based on his video essays in recent years, I would say that he is a GIGANTIC fucking sperg who occasionally has something that's kind of interesting to say. I can listen to some of his really lengthy prattling, but I think I would actually fucking lose it if I for some reason were to try to spend any kind of time with him in person or even just online.
He's weird.

>>8690458
This fills in a lot of blanks for me.

[Anonymous No.8693136]

>>8693007
The patch is fine and confirmed to work on bsnes, snes9x and some snes flashcarts. Read the thread, it might be something on your end.

[𓆏 No.8693143]

>>8692642
That's not what tokimeki means exactly.
>>8692697
Alot of the time these people are fake e-friends with the translation team or whoever, and it's kind of a part of their life. Don't know the guy or his other work afaik but the translation for this is far from perfect. For people desperate to play it no matter what then it is probably really valued though.

[Anonymous No.8693156]

>>8690548
Would be awful if it didn't.

>>8690554
You should tell us some stories about him if you knew him or spent time with him back in those days.

[Anonymous No.8693195]

>>8692697
I treasure him because I've been wanting a Tokimeki translation for over a decade and nobody's been able to get one done until now. Same with the Goemon games, people had been waiting on those for a long time. Tom and DDS have been steadily putting out translations for long desired games.

[Anonymous No.8693203]

>>8693113
He comes off as a rambling narcissist, just one that's occasionally very insightful or entertaining. And he truly loves video games, which helps.

[Anonymous No.8693208]

>>8687983
Why won't this work on my SNES classic but works in an SNES emulator on my PC?

[Anonymous No.8693217]

>>8693203
>And he truly loves video games, which helps.
tim self-reports as having hyperthymesia, which is basically like if you were a coomlector for your own memories. he loves video games in the way that a hoarder loves the newspapers that fill up their entire living room. rewatch some of his stuff with this in mind and you will see certain things in a new light

[Anonymous No.8693219]

>>8689307

The SNES version is heavily cut down and doesn't have the fuckhuge amount of content and story paths that the other versions are known for

>>8692642

This would have made sense if the game was recently released (or recently discovered by Western audience), but it's been popularly known as Tokemeki Memorial for over a decade now.

[Anonymous No.8693225]

>>8689307

The SNES version is heavily cut down and doesn't have the fuckhuge amount of content and story paths that the other versions are known for

>>8692642

This would have made sense if the game was recently released (or recently discovered by Western audience), but it's been popularly known as Tokimeki Memorial for over a decade now.

[Anonymous No.8693245]

>>8693225
I agree, but at the same time the title is such a minor part of the game it hardly matters. Just happy it's in English finally. Somebody can create a new patch to change it back later.

[Anonymous No.8693249]

>>8691887
im legitimately not even sure if his ending is in the sfc version

[Anonymous No.8693252]

Since this is out...we can hope for a port of the translation to the Playstation...right?

[Anonymous No.8693270]

>Tokimeki Memorial Tom RetroTranslator Uncensored Edition v1.39584932 now includes bestiary, gba content, music player, video player, dvd player, blu-ray player, google chrome, microsoft edge, microsoft powerpoint handholding, masturbation, anal, gayfuckery, and much more

[Anonymous No.8693271]

>>8693252
Supposedly the PlayStation version wasn't translated because it's too much of a pain in the ass to hack or something, so probably not anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.8693279]

>>8693252
one, the problem with the game all these years was how complicated the hacking was. the sfc version was finally cracked after so much time only because it's the platform for which the most knowledge exists for its dis/assembly and because it's the smallest version content-wise.

two, scenes were chopped down and rewritten for the sfc version, and it lacks many aspects entirely. so it'd literally be less work to start from scratch rather than cram in what fits and do patchwork on the rest

[Anonymous No.8693290]

>>8693271
>>8693279
That sucks, I also just realized that all the talented hackers I know of in the hacking scene are all SNES hackers.

[Anonymous No.8693370]

>>8693105
>The Saturn one doesn't even have a dedicated hacker, just a useless "lead localizer" begging other people to do it for him.
It has a lead hacker
he's busy with the war

[Anonymous No.8693415]

>>8693370
Not really, just some people have poked around at it a few times.

[Anonymous No.8693472]

>>8691502
>Working Designs retranslation patches
No WD game was retranslated yet, save for Lunar by Xseed (and the rabid WD cultists threw such a bitch fit they patched the iOS version with an update that reverts the trash original translation that doesn't even make sense for the updated content)

Those patches were to revert the difficulty to something that's not about fucking over the player to waste as much time in joyless grinding as possible before the rental period expires.

[Anonymous No.8693520]

>>8693249
it is in, I've just gotten it. It's tedious as fuck to get, though.

[Anonymous No.8693594]

>>8693472
The iOS version uses the original WD translation because the iOS version is based on the Saturn version, not the PSP version. The PSP version is very different which pretty much required a re-translation. The scripts don't really align last I checked. The iOS version the files are pretty much 1:1 with the Saturn version hence why it was the rosetta stone so to speak with figuring out the file formats to translate the Saturn version. So it just made sense to use the older WD translation because it fits and was a quick and easy conversion.

The PSP audio was used though because apparently Vic Ireland threw a hissy fit if they tried to use the WD audio. Since the FMVs and voiced sequences are the same in the PSP and Saturn/PS1 versions, that worked.

[Anonymous No.8693616]

>>8692720
yeah that was bugging me too
sounds like Hottie Memorial

[Anonymous No.8693631]

>>8692720
The player is the heartthrob.
All the girls fall for him the moment they meet him.
The whole game is about constantly keeping these lovestruck women away from you without them feeling rejected and ruining your life.

[Anonymous No.8693648]

Kakyuusei translation next pls

[Anonymous No.8693659]

>>8693631
>All the girls fall for him the moment they meet him
wait a sec that's the opposite of what happens in the game

[Anonymous No.8693662]

>>8693136
>and some snes flashcarts
Works good on SD2SNES, although the game crashed once during the name input.

[Anonymous No.8693667]

>>8690393
>Am I weird that I've never ever heard about Tim Rogers until he made the Tokimeki video?
Only knew him for being extremely annoying 'white boy in japan' persona like 10 years ago. Though I may be confusing him with Brian Ashcraft.

[Anonymous No.8693769]

Mira best girl

[Anonymous No.8693834]

>>8693667
I knew him as
>"or as I like to call it, DORAGON KWESTO IREBUN"

[Anonymous No.8693875]

>>8693769
Used to have her up on my wall back in the day
I'd been using "kagami" as a handle/username (my last name is "Miller" so basically the same name pun as Mira) before playing Tokimemo, so it was kind of amusing to me when I first met her

[Anonymous No.8693885]

>>8693648
I'd laugh at you, but considering Doukyuusei got a remake recently and it's being localized (albeit both the remake and the translation are censored...)

[Anonymous No.8693914]

>>8693885
>albeit both the remake and the translation are censored
You can blame retarded 90s otaku for that one

[Anonymous No.8693981]

>>8692090
What was the context? Was it something like Crystal Pepsi in FLCL where they just mention it off-hand and the context doesn't matter beyond it being an outdated soft drink? Or was it an actual plot-relevant thing?

[Anonymous No.8694000]

>>8693667
>>8693834
>"I personally spoke to Mr. Chinko Shotacon-san when I was working at his company on a game called 'The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time'. We talked about our experiences with Tokimeki Memorial and how they related to working with Electronic Arts on publishing our game in a real conversation that actually happened"

[Anonymous No.8694008]

>>8693225
>This would have made sense if the game was recently released (or recently discovered by Western audience), but it's been popularly known as Tokimeki Memorial for over a decade now.
I said I agreed with that and continue to refer to the series as that, myself.

>>8693143
>That's not what Tokimeki means exactly.
Are you referring to its usage as a term for excitement? I don't think there's a completely equivalent English term that confers both an actual heartbeat plus why a heart beats out of romantic thrill, but "heartthrob (though I personally would like "heartbeat" more) conveys it to some degree, plus also having a general context of romance (whether or not exactly appropriate, here) while also conveying its own double-meaning (again, whether or not it needs to have that extra meaning of "stud"/"babe" is debateable, yet still quite negligible, and, possibly also an interesting addition).

>>8692720
It does sound a bit odd, considering how we typically view the series' structure (as you being excited for the girls), but not only is it an accurate translation technically-speaking, it is true that (in the ideal gameplay) the girls find you a heartthrob in the sense of lady killer.

>>8692683
Welcome, newfag! I think even Romhacking.net has those particular title screen hacks posted for each respective game, if you want to have a look.

>>8692697
There's been no argument against his (literal) translation other than "I hate it." You're free to express your opinion, but doing so doesn't necessarily mean you're right, faggot.

[Anonymous No.8694019]

>>8693659
They're each introduced in the story in that way, though, but technically, no, they don't, true.

[Anonymous No.8694027]

what stats do I need to focus on if I'm going for Yumi?

[Anonymous No.8694031]

>>8692765
Works for me, and I'm playing it on fuckin Wii (SNES9GX emulator). Not familiar with bsnes, myself, but it could be a settings issue, due to the uncommonness of an 8mb SNES rom.

[Anonymous No.8694057]

>>8690839
Yeah. I don't understand why there's an issue with a translated title that also has an established name. If the title were an inaccurate translation, though, I would understand that. I still call and title the filenames of the Goemon SNES games as Ganbare Goemon (and Soreyuke Ebisumaru), and I still call that Battle Gaiden, as Spin Off sounds boring and "imprecise" (even though it's technically not), but I like how FlashPV handled the kanji in the title. Interesting touches, at least.

[Anonymous No.8694062]

Only 1 bitches? You expect me to fill the Nishishi sized hole in my heart with this? Are there any other snes, genesis, saturn dating sims / vn's I should try as well as this?

[Anonymous No.8694069]

>>8694027
Yumi is automatically added in the second year and crushes on you out of the gate. If you're going for her route just try to keep the other girls neutral on you and sandbag some stats so that you don't get all the girls too early. Probably one of the easiest routes.

[Anonymous No.8694078]

>>8694031
I tried to get it working on my wii with the snes9x emulator, but it didn't work (stuck on black screen). I even tried both the 8mb rom and the separate 4mb rom with ips patch, but nope. The separated files are working on my PC, though. Playing it again after more than 24 years is giving me massive nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.8694081]

>>8688747
Tim, you are weird and old.

[Anonymous No.8694108]

>>8693875
I was a yukari man. Had a mousepad, figures, clock, sooo many posters...

[Anonymous No.8694114]

>>8693208
because your SNES classic is a (shitty) emulator

[Anonymous No.8694124]

>>8694069
cool beans, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.8694175]

>>8693217
>tim self-reports as having hyperthymesia, which is basically like if you were a coomlector for your own memories.
Photographic memory hasn't really been verified in any scientific manner, and people who claim that they have it occasionally gets documented things wrong (see John Romero). In reality, people who claim to have it are either lying, or they just have really good, but still not perfect, memory.

>he loves video games in the way that a hoarder loves the newspapers that fill up their entire living room.
lmao, at least ROMs and ISOs don't take up much physical space.

[Anonymous No.8694189]

>>8692697
he blocked me on tw*tter for some reason and I never even replied to him

[Anonymous No.8694208]

>>8694189
Tom never blocks anyone, you're full of shit.

[Anonymous No.8694263]

>>8694208
Why wouldn't he block psychos that were after his ass for basically no reason

[Anonymous No.8694275]

>>8688747
Hi tim

[Anonymous No.8694282]

>>8694263
This translator sounds like a psycho, idiots who have their ego on too high, disgusting moral less westerners. Its like how that "literal translation" options got these hack translators angry and upset and shone a light on their awful personalities.

[Anonymous No.8694283]

>>8694175
hyperthymesia is specifically attuned to "one's own personal experience." it allows for a lot of leeway in how one presents such superior memory since the line is kind of vague. after all, even the absorption of mundane materials amounts to a "personal experience" because no two people will ever perceive the same stimuli in the exact same manner. so why do you remember how many times you've had ravioli in your life but not the experience of your wholly unique brain chemistry reading detailed passages from textbooks?

ergo, hyperthymesia is more convenient for grifters and the self-deluded. it's a claim anyone can make because no one can confirm or deny your own life experience and what resonates with you. if you strike up a conversation with me and record it, then ask me to "play it back" and i get it wrong, it would be academic for me to come up with some justification as to why i don't have perfect memory of it. perhaps i consider personal interactions to exist outside of my concept of "self." however, this wouldn't even preclude me from being able to recite whatever else i want to appear informed or impressive, because i can claim some sort of, e.g., emotional tie to anything i do remember, even only putatively. and my "ravioli" parlor tricks that i pepper in, uttered with enough immediacy and confidence, just might be enough to make you start believing, along with a healthy dose of garden-variety memory palaces.

[Anonymous No.8694315]

>>8688747
But he's right? I played through it last year. It really isn't the same without the voices.

Just because you are now limited to SNES for the game because it's available in English doesn't mean you have to act all sour grapes about it. You've had like...27 years to learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.8694372]

>>8693648
I'm afraid of the slippery slope to Tamaki's bizarre adventure.

[Anonymous No.8694479]

>>8694283
tim go back to working on that boku no natsuyasumi video already

[Anonymous No.8694491]

>>8694372
I don't know what this is, but I want to play it. Someone translate whatever this is.

[Anonymous No.8694504]

Toki bros....it finally happened :')

[Anonymous No.8694509]

[Anonymous No.8694617]

>>8694208
oh I was confusing him with the Amagami guy

[Anonymous No.8694856]

>>8688126
>>8689374
https://pastebin.com/JcfiexyZ

[Anonymous No.8694879]

how pozed is the translation?
did they age up the characters or change parts of the dialog they consider "creepy"?

[Anonymous No.8694931]

>>8694315
It's the same game at the end of the day, just a bad version of it.

It would be like if the only way to watch Rashomon in English was VHS.

[Anonymous No.8694942]

>>8694931
not quite. You could still enjoy Rashomon as a complete package with all the visuals and audio presented.

It's more like watching Rashomon with no sound and just subtitles.

You still can enjoy the movie, but you can't pretend the experience is comparable.

[Anonymous No.8695049]

>>8694879
There's nothing like that. No ages are mentioned in the game, they're all high schoolers.

[Anonymous No.8695051]

What the fuck every girl was loving me and suddenly they all hate me over night what happened

[Anonymous No.8695062]

I can’t tell if you’re supposed to date them all or focus on one at a time. When I focus on one everyone else gets pissed off but when I was trying to date them all the game kept telling me they were all spreading rumors about me. What do these whores want.

[Anonymous No.8695097]

What does the bomb do/how can you defuse it? How bad is it if it goes off?

[Anonymous No.8695103]

>>8695051
Came here to post this. Things were going smoothly with my choosen one and then the 3rd year fucked everything and everybody hates me. My first playthrough and I'll probably end up alone just like real life

[Anonymous No.8695105]

Thanks!

[Anonymous No.8695118]

Goddammit this bitch ruined my Shiori run.
Guess I didn't have her at max happiness for long enough.

You really do have to sandbag stats so you don't have to be putting bombs out constantly huh. I once had 5 bombs to diffuse and somehow none of them went off but it sucked ass.

[Anonymous No.8695210]

Was the biorhythm calendar and QA menu exclusive to forever with you or something?

[Anonymous No.8695217]

Nice Konami plushies.

[Anonymous No.8695230]

Is there any point at all in asking Yoshio about dating spots? He always says he doesn't have any.

[Anonymous No.8695253]

>>8695230
No it's a trap just use the magazine.

[Anonymous No.8695308]

>>8694856
>>8689374
>>8688126
Patch was updated to add manifests
https://twitter.com/RetroTranslator/status/1501083407329427458

[Anonymous No.8695365]

>>8689398
Congrats son I'm proud of you

[Anonymous No.8695387]

>>8694509
that's impressive and sad.

[Anonymous No.8695414]

first attempt I'll try to play the game normally with no research
second attempt I'll sleep through my entire time in high school
third attempt I'll focus entirely on looksmaxxing

[Anonymous No.8695415]

>>8687983
Anyone got a link to a rom that actually works with the patch? Been trying various different ones in Snes9x and none of them seem to work because they don't have the right CRC32.

[Anonymous No.8695428]

>>8695415
https://edgeemu.net/details-242200.htm

[Anonymous No.8695429]

>>8695415
try emuparadise's rev. a

[Anonymous No.8695435]

>>8695387
why it's sad?

[Anonymous No.8695509]

What's the update about? Do I need to update my patch?

[Anonymous No.8695532]

>>8695509
only if you wanna play it in bsnes

[Anonymous No.8695534]

>>8694479
i don’t understand how you thought that post would support his platform

[Anonymous No.8695536]

>>8695532
ok

[Anonymous No.8695541]

>>8695415
>Been trying various different ones in Snes9x and none of them seem to work
>because they don't have the right CRC32.
then why are you trying them?

[Anonymous No.8695558]

>>8693143
>Don't know the guy or his other work afaik
He's done a lot of shit. Ignore the ES ones, those are just spics using his translations as a base.

[Anonymous No.8695602]

>>8693648
Obviously not the same but the Kakyuusei 1 anime adaptation is subbed and pretty comfy, no porn though.

[Anonymous No.8695607]

>>8695414
Exactly what I'm doing for my runs. Been a while since Ive played a proper dating sim so I'm excited to sink my teeth into this one.

>>8695558
>several MegaTen titles
Not bad.

[Anonymous No.8695629]

Mom, can we get Tokimeki Memorial?
>We have Tokimeki Memorial at home.
Tokimeki Memorial at home:

[Anonymous No.8695647]

>>8695217
I recognize Maria, Who are the other ones?

[Anonymous No.8695695]

>>8695647
It's probably a bunch of Twinbee characters that nobody outside of Japan knows about

[Anonymous No.8695962]

>>8695695
Correct, one is Pastel from TwinBee at least

[Anonymous No.8696002]

Fun game, I think I'll wait for one of the less shitty versions to be English patched before replaying it though.

[Anonymous No.8696003]

How often should I be calling Yoshio? Is it ok to wait until I hear there are rumors being spread about me then deal with whoever's doing it? Or should I be calling him all the time?

[Anonymous No.8696007]

>>8696003
That's what I did, only had one bomb go off throughout the entire playthrough, got pretty hectic during the 3rd year though.

[Anonymous No.8696014]

>>8696007
I had a bomb go off (that WHOOOOORE Mio) in my second year RIGHT before Christmas and Valentine's day so both were fucked. Every girl except her had a smiley face when I called Yoshio. It's good to know I didn't fuck up too bad and can fix it, but I'm pissed everything was going so well.

[Anonymous No.8696016]

>>8695428
>>8695429
Thanks anons.

[Anonymous No.8696024]

>>8696014
they can also bomb you when theyre happy, but yeah just call her on the phone and itll smooth things over, still got a year to fix up what progress you mightve lost from it

[Anonymous No.8696029]

>>8696003
>>8696007
>>8696014
i don't have much experience with sfc but if the mechanics are the same as forever with you, the most optimal strategy for more difficult girls like shiori and megumi is simply to round-robin the girls that you have out in the open, provided you weren't reckless and have like a million of them. you can skip some girls if they have birthdays coming up so it's worth keeping track of those.

you can still occasionally call yoshio if you're really in the dark but it's more efficient just to get ahead of the "upkeep." if you're waiting until someone bombs (meaning you passed up some period of time where you could have prevented it through diligence) and then wasting another turn calling yoshio that could be used to prevent another potential future bomb with a date, you're already fighting a losing battle that's going to snowball. furthermore, you're eventually going to need to stand someone up on a date to address a bomb, which is even worse.

[Anonymous No.8696032]

>>8695051
Do I really need to point out the obvious? Women, dude. Fucking women. Simulation: accurate. Any randomized skinner box is a decent heterosexual dating sim for men.

[Anonymous No.8696036]

>>8696029
> provided you weren't reckless and have like a million of them
I didn’t know. I DIDN’T KNOOOOOOW!!!

[Anonymous No.8696040]

>>8696036
i mean it's not really your fault, it's a beginner's trap. in fact starting your first playthrough just getting a feel for the different girls is probably a good thing. and you can still salvage a run with too many girls if your intuition is good enough, my shiori run was like that.

[Anonymous No.8696050]

>>8696040
Once I screwed enough stuff I decided to focus on Shiori since that seems like the "cannon" pick

[Anonymous No.8696060]

>>8696050
it is. the other girls are essentially obstacles from the standpoint of wanting to beat the game's most difficult "mode"

[Anonymous No.8696076]

>>8696060
Is she more difficult than Yuina

[Anonymous No.8696090]

>>8696076
the only one who is kind of on shiori's level is megumi because you basically have to date both and then half-dump shiori. but the flipside of it is that megumi, like yumi, likes you a fuckton just by default and is very easy/obvious to please. shiori is a bit pickier.

with yuina i would say her likes, dislikes, and mood patterns are a bit more nebulous than most/all of the other "one stat" girls, and she has a funny end-stage event the others don't have, but on the whole she's still easier than shiori. most of the girls you can "skip leg day" so to speak and this effectively means you will meet fewer girls if you're careful, whereas to get shiori, megumi, and yumi to some extent you have to boost several stats and also choose the right level of higher education

[Anonymous No.8696123]

Should I focus on Rei at all? Whenever I call him he's an asshole about it, but the number is there so I figure it's for a reason. He didn't let me into his year 2 Christmas party.

[Anonymous No.8696128]

>>8696123
do you want his ending?

[Anonymous No.8696134]

>>8696128
Sure

[Anonymous No.8696187]

>>8695647
>>8695695
>>8695962
Pink hair is from Twin Bee, White haired one is from Parodius, bandanna one is from an arcade fighter Martial Champion and I don't know who the bottom one is supposed to be. The PS1/SAT version switched some of the plushies for more Twin Bee girls.

[Anonymous No.8696253]

>>8696123
I think you can enter the party if you have high appearance and/or fitness regardless of interacting with Rei.

[Anonymous No.8696265]

>>8696060
why is Shiori so hard to get anyway, well I guess it's only natural for an alpha female to only accept an alpha male

[Anonymous No.8696267]

I've never met Miharu (only her phone calls), Mira or Saki.

[Anonymous No.8696286]

>>8696265
>why is Shiori so hard to get anyway
Cuz she a bitch

[Anonymous No.8696314]

>>8696286
yup

Tokimeki Memorial 4 had the best childhood friend

[Anonymous No.8696323]

>>8693981
https://youtu.be/ytBjYjaZqqk?t=6527

In one of the endings you have to tell Momotarō to Iris. The change to Goldilocks itself isn't the end of the world, it's a small ~10 textbox conversation 5 minutes before the credits roll yet it's very telling making such an unnecessary localization. The patch's audience not being familiar with it is a weak excuse. You get multiple chances to say the right thing, you either get no punishment or very little since you're already locked into your ending anyway and surprise, a Japanese game about plays and tales from all over the world is going to have a Japanese tale in it. I doubt anyone playing a fan patch of a game called Sakura Wars is going to be floored by such a thing.

Keep in mind this isn't the only change done, just the dumbest one I've seen from one playthrough in a game where you need multiple to see everything.

[Anonymous No.8696342]

How do you keep track of your biorhythm? Sometimes my guy just starts being shit at everything and I assume it's because of that?

[Anonymous No.8696350]

>>8696314
how are the other tokimemo games afeter 1?

[Anonymous No.8696364]

>>8696350
Curious about this too. There are four more DS/PSP ones translated on CDRomance

[Anonymous No.8696376]

>>8696350
afaik 2 is pretty good, it has that whole system where the characters actually say your name, which most modern games dont even do

[Anonymous No.8696386]

>>8696350
2 and 4 are supposed to be good; dunno about the third game

[Anonymous No.8696389]

>>8696376
tokimemo 2 has a fucking vocaloid engine on the ps1?

[Anonymous No.8696390]

>>8696364
How is this one getting translated such a big deal if so many have already been translated and they're from later in the series?

[Anonymous No.8696393]

>>8696390
it's the first non-otome game translated
also GS boys are so basic compared to modern otoges

[Anonymous No.8696395]

>>8696393
What does that mean

[Anonymous No.8696396]

>>8696390
I believe that DS games translated to English are spinoffs for women where you play as a girl romancing boys.

[Anonymous No.8696403]

>>8696395
otome games are games where you are the girl and you have to get boys
makes sense that the series shifted towards that because it's kinda hard to sell romance to boys and the tokimemo fandom was mostly girls anyways

[Anonymous No.8696418]

>>8696389
https://youtu.be/3v3x0vdadJM here's a video of it in action, pretty neat

[Anonymous No.8696434]

>>8696350
2 is sometimes considered the best game and while it's "expanded" in some ways and ahead of its time in others, i find it mostly tacky. it had a magazine (that had the vocal discs packed in with them) that corresponded with the in-game magazine, and real-life forums and shit where you were supposed to RP, which of course are now defunct. so you can hunt down those mags and try to wayback machine the websites and such but that aspect of it is basically gone. the voice synthesizer is cool for like 5 seconds and then it's just an anchor

then, there's the fact that it's a "b-team" game and it shows. no koji igarashi, no key programmers or artists returning, and only one returning composer who isn't even the important one. much of the game's soundtrack is stock music. everything is poorly optimized like aspects of the GUI being misaligned in various ways. the competitive nature of how any girl you're not pursuing works against you is basically gone, so there's very little planning or challenge. and worst of all, the characters are all retarded anime tropes. tokimemo 1's aren't *exactly* lifelike mind you and the game has shit like final fantasy battles but it's basically like comparing cowboy bebop to lucky star or some shit

[Anonymous No.8696438]

Yeah, I kicked this slut. Problem?

[Anonymous No.8696473]

>>8693105
>gotta remove the heckin oof n' yikes
I hate these people so much it's unreal.

[Anonymous No.8696489]

>>8695647
>>8696187
The bottom one is Mika Slayton, from Snatcher.

[Anonymous No.8696496]

>>8696323
Seeing it in context, I 100% agree with his choice to change it to a different story. The point of that sequence is that Momotaro is a story every Japanese player would know, so the alternate options are only there if the player wants to see what happens if they screw up telling the story. The content of the story is completely irrelevant (unless there's some over-arching context I'm missing). Changing it to a story that American players would know is kind of needed to capture the original experience.

[Anonymous No.8696503]

>>8687983
>no cringe voice acting
Based. I'll check it out.

[Anonymous No.8696526]

>>8696496
And to be fair, burntends wasn't even the one who made that change. The team decided to make it for the exact reason you brought up. To actually play that part correctly the player needs to be familiar with the story, and most people playing the English patch wouldn't know the original story.

While burntends localization vs translation crusade is concerning, he's not nearly as involved as he appears. With Sakura Wars projects at least there's a pretty large team of translators and editors working together on it. He's barely involved.

[Anonymous No.8696546]

Didn't know you can get NTR'd in this game.

[Anonymous No.8696589]

Game is fun but sadly other versions are so much better.

[Anonymous No.8696608]

>>8696546
How do you get Yoshio to end up with a girl? I'm unsure how it works.

[Anonymous No.8696614]

>>8696546
It's okay, I hooked up with his sister

[Anonymous No.8696618]

>>8687983
Wasn't there a Tokimeki game that did get an official translation in the early 2000s and got hit with the AO rating called "Tokimeki CHECK IN!"

[Anonymous No.8696621]

>>8696618
Not related to this Konami franchise.

[Anonymous No.8696636]

>>8696589
Like what

[Anonymous No.8696643]

>>8696636
They are referring to the forever with you versions on the psx/saturn

[Anonymous No.8696665]

>think Rei is just a prick to annoy you in the game
>calling him is a waste of time
>see the thread that he has an ending
>mfw I finally realized

[Anonymous No.8696694]

Finally shiori end unlocked for anybody trying to get her :

-Set her birthday to january 31 (for the music club) join the club ofc
-Date her at least once every one/two months
-focus in raising stats, avoiding girls (the only one who my pc mets during my playthough were yuina and saki)
-If you are lucky starting year 2 you should have shiori req for the confession
-date her nontsop during year 2 unlocking her scenes (pool date have 2 variations : 1 for the first time you unlock it and other the next year)
-you should have her in tokimeki around the start of year 3 focus in the others girls to avoid bombs
-I got lucky and megumi only appeared in year 3 during valentine day but if you unlocked her early : be careful because she loves to bomb you like yumi

[Anonymous No.8696712]

>>8696546
Unlock 8 girls at least , he always go with the one with the :) at least , also he never cucks you because yoshio always go for the girl with the lowest affection towards you

[Anonymous No.8696728]

btw did the sfc version have the alternated ends for mio (no glasses end) and nozomi(long hair end)? I want to know since this version cut the shiori and mira christmas event

[Anonymous No.8696731]

Unlock 8 girls at least , also he never cucks you because yoshio always go for the girl with the lowest affection towards you

[Anonymous No.8696751]

>>8696608
met 8 girls at least , also he never cucks you because yoshio always go for the girl with the lowest affection towards you or the 8th girl if the lowest one are shiori or megumi (for obvious reasins both girls loves you no matter what)

[Anonymous No.8696838]

>>8696546
Proud of him

[Anonymous No.8696906]

>>8696694
I'm this idiot >>8695118 who has had a problem with mystery girl overtaking shiori on two unique runs, and the second time I even sandbagged stats the entire game to only have 5 girls at the end.
All stats meet shiori's cutoff (130+ school related, 100+ everything else, no stress, 50+ health), have had her in tokimeki for 1.5 years, regular dates, no bombs.

I guess being lukewarm on the other girls isn't enough? Do I have to cool them off hard right before the end of the game? I have a save near the end of 98 I'll give it another shot by being a psycho and making the other girls hate me without bombs I guess.

[Anonymous No.8696947]

>>8696546
I'm happy for my man yoshio

[Anonymous No.8696950]

>>8696906
post your stats anyway, also what university you chose

[Anonymous No.8696963]

>>8696950
This is from a reloaded save but 1st rate college, aced, still have a week or two to get spirit up
(Sidenote I guess if you're not in the right club spirit is kind of hard to come by, I only ever got it by exercising really).

[Anonymous No.8696968]

>>8696963
>(Sidenote I guess if you're not in the right club spirit is kind of hard to come by, I only ever got it by exercising really).
Was going to ask about this. What's the best way to get this up?

[Anonymous No.8696996]

>>8696963
the looks stat could be borderline also. bear in mind that there is some vague +/- wiggle room with everything so riding the line of what she supposedly needs may not be enough. but most people who have gotten shiori that i've seen or spoken to (albeit for forever with you) seem to have lacked something or other and still gotten her so there may be something else in play like getting the right or wrong fortune. not sure if miharu tatebayashi shows up if the game can't decide which girl you qualify for or if you just suck but not too hard, or both. surely if you got someone else in tokimeki state you'd know, right?

[Anonymous No.8697016]

>>8696906

and here is your problem you need fitness and insight around 110 and health around 50 , if you still wants her end this wiki it´s pretty useful
https://tokimemo.fandom.com/wiki/Shiori_Fujisaki

fitness and art are so high thanks to music club ofc

https://imgur.com/a/W9Vj5xk

[Anonymous No.8697021]

>>8696963
and here is your problem you need health around 50 , if you still wants her end this wiki it´s pretty useful
https://tokimemo.fandom.com/wiki/Shiori_Fujisaki

fitness and art are so high thanks to music club ofc

https://imgur.com/a/W9Vj5xk

[Anonymous No.8697026]

>>8697021
Jesus, I guess I sandbagged too hard.

[Anonymous No.8697032]

>>8696968
exercise in weekends raise a lot of spirit , sports clubs raises it too but for shiori you shouln´t join one since they have practices every 3rd sunday

[Anonymous No.8697042]

Why are little sisters like this?

[Anonymous No.8697045]

>>8697026
yep believe it or not first time the same thing happend to me too since my health was so low , so I went: fuck it I am gonna lay low and make my pc a ubermench and only meet like 2 girls (yuina and saki) got lucky with megumi since she appeared pretty late (around the 2nd valentine year) the only bad thing was dating almost non stop shiori since I ignored her the 1st year , fortunately around 3rd year she was in tokimeki state

[Anonymous No.8697082]

>>8697045
Did you just spend your first year ignoring everyone and spending weekends leveling stats so that thots won't bother you? Pretty based.

[Anonymous No.8697091]

dont care about kotaku man or romhacker drama, just happy to see people playing the game for the first time. Yuina is my wife btw

[Anonymous No.8697104]

These side games, they have any gameplay at all or is just press button to pass text?

[Anonymous No.8697105]

>>8696751
Is there a way to get his sister to have the lowest affection toward you? I assume she's off limits for him to end up with too unless...

[Anonymous No.8697117]

>>8697082
yep the most funny thing was like almost every girl (except saki and yumi) were in :D , so my pc receive a lot of hommemade chocos

[Anonymous No.8697123]

>>8697117
I mean shiori and yumi fuck

>>8697105
Yes you can! just be a jerk to her or never call yoshi in my shiori save when I met her yumi was in :I because of that

[Anonymous No.8697130]

>>8697117 (You)
I mean shiori and yumi fuck

>>8697105
Yes you can! just be a jerk to her or never call yoshi in my shiori save when I met her yumi was in :I because of that and no yoshio wond date his sister in that case he will go for the next one

[Anonymous No.8697147]

I'm >>8696963 and reran a save with final stats as and still got mystery girl so I guess I am cursed.
Idk guess I'll do a rerun later.

[Anonymous No.8697186]

>>8697147
how many times did you date shiori? in the sfc version one of the many problems with her it´s that even with stats you will never get her end if you don´t date her enough I can give you my save if you want to see her end

[Anonymous No.8697225]

>>8697147
also try to raise looks to 120 (the minimum for rei party) and health around 100 and see if you cna get it then if not idk maybe you are really cursed then unless someone bombs you and you didn´t know that

[Anonymous No.8697289]

>>8697091
best grill

[Anonymous No.8697390]

>>8691735
Actually playing the game you don't really notice it because the script basically uses your nickname in that fashion. Once you see your nick coming up in conversation, it's a good sign you're 'in'.

[Anonymous No.8697446]

>>8696314
>all tokimeki memorial games have main heroine childhood friend that clearly wins on the side materials like novelization
>then come ELF with >>8694372 with the shittiest childhood friend main heroine ever in the history of dating sims
No wonder ELF got boycotted to death by vanillafags

[Anonymous No.8697472]

>>8697446
what happened ? the only thing I kow about ELF are the memes about how almost every game of them have NTR

[Anonymous No.8697487]

>>8692984
Seconding this question. There's surely some sd2snes bros in here right? I got it to "work", but the MSU stuff just barely functions. The intro music plays with a black screen, the voiced confessions at the end don't play, the end credits song doesn't play. It's patched correctly and set up exactly like >>8691740 has it, it's only acting up like this on the flashcart.

[Anonymous No.8697687]

>>8697446
childhood friends are so fucking boring, they're all perfect clones of each other

[Anonymous No.8697739]

Fixed. >>8696963
>>8696963

Seems that the stat cutoffs for forever with you don't really apply, much like the forever with you dates and clubs being different.

Game wouldn't give me shiori end unless I had stats all around 130 or higher. 100s for nonacademics seems not to work on SFC.

I had thought the problem was >>8697186
but that actually fucked me (again) because I was dating her too much thinking that my stats were fine.

[Anonymous No.8697743]

>>8697739
Final stats. I found it pretty funny that if you get bombed in january you can just ignore it. Anyway. Thanks for the pro tips.

[Anonymous No.8697782]

If you're aiming for one girl, do you have to refuse the invites to walk home and dates from the others?

[Anonymous No.8697785]

>>8697782
no, in fact, this will make those girls bomb you, which they will do eventually if you neglect them long enough

[Anonymous No.8697786]

>>8697785
If you ask then to walk home and they reject you is that bad?

[Anonymous No.8697790]

>>8697786
No it just means your relationship with them isn't high enough.
Depending on your relationship either the character will have the option of asking the girl or the girl will ask the protagonist. In the former case you can keep walking home and it doesn't hurt their feelings. In the latter case it will hurt their feelings and will accelerate bombing

[Anonymous No.8697796]

Do you even have to care about the bombs if you want the Rei ending or just calling him every free day is enough?

[Anonymous No.8697797]

Is there a way to upgrade to the new patch and keep the endings I've already gotten? I'm using Retroarch and downloaded the prepatched ones from CDRomance so far if that matters.

[Anonymous No.8697802]

>>8697739
congratulations anon! yeah I did notice it when I was using the guide for the events (some events don´t exist in the sfc version like shiori birthday or mira/shiori christmas) a golden rule for everyone playing tokimeki it´s always to aim for 130-150 in the main stats if you want to be sure since the versions are differents with the req/events
>>8697743
Yeah the good thing about the last year in every tokimeki is how you can ignore bombs around january, it gives you more time for stats grind if you need it

>>8697786
I don´t think so? the problem with this tokimeki is how every girl have differents bombs time: yumi/megumi/mio always have the shortest one while girls like yuina/nozomi/saki (at least in my case) took long before bombing you , giving gifts helps if you want to avoid bombs

[Anonymous No.8697803]

>>8697797
The saves follow the rom names. As long as the new patched rom has the same name as your old one, the save will be the same too.

[Anonymous No.8697807]

>>8697796
nope miharu and rei don´t care for bombs you can get rei end easily if you just sleeps and call in weekends , miharu is a bit more tricky you need high stats but it´s still easy since she is inmune to bombs

[Anonymous No.8697809]

>>8697796
nope miharu and rei are inmune to bombs you can get rei end easily if you just sleeps and call in weekends , miharu is a bit more tricky since you need high stats but it´s still easy otherwise you will get the forever alone end

[Anonymous No.8697813]

>>8697802
> Yeah the good thing about the last year in every tokimeki is how you can ignore bombs around january, it gives you more time for stats grind if you need it
It doesn’t matter if it knocks someone out of Tokimeki status?

[Anonymous No.8697819]

>>8697813
bombs around 3rd year in january never explode and if you try to make a date the girls always rejects you, the game it´s giving you basically 2 months to fix your stats, now if you do get a bomb before january? you should take care of that

[Anonymous No.8698154]

I've waited years for this game, I can wait a bit longer for a better version (and a title screen hack that says "Tokimeki Memorial" instead of "Heartthrob Memorial".

[Anonymous No.8698170]

>>8698154
You should learn japanese then , here´s a good reason for why tokimeki memorial isn´t translated (hint : making a pathc it´s a nightmare thanks to how konami programmed it) and stoping because tom translated the title it´s stupid

[Anonymous No.8698192]

>>8698170
I have plenty of games to play to wait for the PC, PS1 or Saturn releases.

[Anonymous No.8698218]

>>8690137
false equivalence. you're comparing a literal translation ("True Goddess Resurrection") to a localized translation ("Heartthrob Memorial").
A more accurate comparison would be if they called it "Throbbing Memorial" which would obviously be stupid as fuck.
You're probably one of those weebs who insists on calling it SHINGEKI NO KYOJIN around your friends and sounding like a weeb virgin dork.
Learn Japanese and fuck off if you care that much about your sacred weeb titles.

[Anonymous No.8698225]

>>8691176
"Newhalf" only means anything to weebs. "Tranny" was an okay choice but came with the baggage of generally being offensive now. "Transvestite" is more known and less offensive, just dated, I would've probably picked that instead. I'm sure people would have still been mad but I bet it would've been less bad than how things went.

[Anonymous No.8698227]

>>8697487
Maybe try again using the Rev 1 version? Check if the CRC32 file checksum for the rom you used comes up as AE9F3602

If that doesn't work then try this:
https://mega.nz/folder/hihlgAxQ#lafy-4ZlnKFJ9m-pATN9Gg

[Anonymous No.8698228]

>>8698192
Okay, then, play what you want. Just know that this is a game meant to be replayed a lot, so you don't need to wait for the perfect version to do one run and cross the game from your to play list. You can play this one and when a better one comes out it will still be a new experience due to new animations and voices.

[Anonymous No.8698229]

>>8698227
I guess I should explain that's the game prepatched with the MSU-1 files.

[Anonymous No.8698317]

I regret nothing.

[Anonymous No.8698348]

is it hard to get the girl you want by playing blind?

[Anonymous No.8698362]

>>8698348
Not really, as long as you focus on her and take care of the bombs from other girls. Shiori is the one you have to be great at everything to get.

[Anonymous No.8698404]

>>8696614

[Anonymous No.8698406]

>>8697042
Funny, I had a friend as a kid whose younger sister liked to wrestle

[Anonymous No.8698409]

>>8696665
The lack of voice acting may actually improve the overall experience of this

[Anonymous No.8698410]

>>8696496
>>8696526
I always understood the logic behind the change. But the result is still an unnecessary localization. This isn't "they used the wrong word here, trash translation" or dealing with some kanji wordplay bullshit, it's just a full-on replacement with the cover of being for the developer's intent.

It's like renaming all the movies and musicians in Tokimeki to more familiar things. It would be funny if Saki walked up to me and asked if I want to catch ABCD (originally ELDERMETAL) but it's still too big of a change, even for something so minor. It's interesting to me that Tom gets a lot of (understandable) shit for Heartthrob but at worst it's just a translation of what was already there. Meanwhile he kept the movie and musician names as is. I don't know why but I assume it's because changing them is beyond what he feels a translation is meant to do, even if people won't get the references. A bit clunkier yet a much more agreeable conduct in my eyes. Of course translators don't have to follow some made up guidelines and can do whatever the fuck they want with THEIR project and burntends fancies himself a localizer but I think more people will complain about a fan patch being too localized versus not localized enough.

Sorry for these massive waits for replies.

[Anonymous No.8698413]

>>8697687
TM4's was nice because she was a yandere

[Anonymous No.8698420]

>>8697104
I only played the Saki one
It has a soccer-ball mini-game
Probably the other two each have their own mini-game
You have to do well at the mini-game to get a different ending I think

[Anonymous No.8698426]

>>8698406
I hope you guys are married now.

[Anonymous No.8698485]

>>8696546
we're all going to make it bros

[Anonymous No.8698656]

>>8696546
People don't really care unless the dev do that shit to the main heroine.

[Anonymous No.8698704]

>>8698410
I think the difference is that there's a gameplay component to this specific example. It's similar to how if a puzzle involves a wordplay riddle, nobody really has a problem with a translation throwing it out and replacing it with something that can conceivably be solved in English. Like one project I worked on had a character who was CONSTANTLY referencing anime and movie quotes from shit nobody in the west would recognize (hell, we're pretty sure we only understood around half of them). But they didn't really affect gameplay in any meaningful way, so there was no need to really change them to something people in the west would recognize, even though that aspect of his character got lost in translation (plus, there were a couple like "Where do you want to fall?" that I'm sure at least a few people understood). Then there were other instances where one of the dialog options would be something like "If you don't enter the tiger's den...". There's a case where we decided it was better to localize the line to "Nothing ventured...", just because making sure the player understood what the dialog option meant "go in" was more important than preserving half of a Chinese proverb.

[Anonymous No.8698846]

If I meet a girl and don’t ask Yoshio for her number can she still bomb me?

[Anonymous No.8698854]

>>8698227
Thanks for your help, upon further testing I think it's probably an SD card issue. It's just an old 2GB sandisk card and might be too weak, the website does mention incompatibilities with some. After formatting and trying your copy I got it so the intro video played...in a complete garbled mess, but it at least tried to play it. I hadn't tried any other MSU-1 stuff before so I wasn't sure if I had it wrong. I'll grab a bigger/faster card and try again.

[Anonymous No.8698865]

>>8698846
Yes.

[Anonymous No.8698878]

>>8698865
Goddammit

[Anonymous No.8698973]

>>8698878
Meeting you gives a woman the right to talk shit about you, that's just part of life.

[Anonymous No.8699125]

>>8698973
Don't I know it

[Anonymous No.8699398]

>>8690461
>Used to read ten pages of stuff I didn't like regularly
Yeah, you're the winner there

[Anonymous No.8699517]

Was just reading a guide saying to set Shiori and MC's birthdays in March to get the scene in her bedroom, but also read it apparently isn't in the SFC version? What's the best birthday setting?

[Anonymous No.8699525]

>>8690110
literally me

[Anonymous No.8699532]

>>8699517
i would say not to worry about it. there are parts of tokimeki memorial that are fun to game and there are parts that aren't, and doing birthday math is part of the latter. if you really are set on doing it, gamefaqs has a guide that tells you how to predict it for club purposes under one of the forever with you versions

[Anonymous No.8699556]

>>8699532
I think I'm going to game Shiori if I fail at it again, but keep all the other girls... puuuuuurrrreeee.

[Anonymous No.8699562]

Man, Mira is a bitch, she doesn't like anything, just herself.

[Anonymous No.8699573]

>>8699562
That's what's hot about her

[Anonymous No.8699593]

How can I tell the MSU files are working?
When does the voices kick in?
I'm gonna play this in retroarch Wii and it's using a pretty outdated SNES9x, so it's possible it might not work and I want to test it.

[Anonymous No.8699594]

Does the series have a tomboy character?

[Anonymous No.8699596]

>>8699593
if it plays the opening FMV on startup it works

[Anonymous No.8699605]

>>8699596
Thank you very much anon-kun

[Anonymous No.8699607]

>>8699594
Yes. I would even say there's plenty.

[Anonymous No.8699626]

On the readme file:
> This patch is not for rehosting on Romhacking.net.

[Anonymous No.8699632]

Let me guess: In those spots where Ayako speaks random English words to sound cool, they just translated it as those exact same English words?

[Anonymous No.8699635]

>>8699632
She does it in 1337 speak

[Anonymous No.8699639]

>>8699635
I... what?

[Anonymous No.8699640]

>>8699632
What else could be done? Change her personality? The game still takes place in Japan so we just have to accept it. They use a different color for her "True English" phrases though.

[Anonymous No.8699649]

>>8699640
French. Very easy decision. Artsy types have been co-opting French words since the beginning of time.

[Anonymous No.8699654]

>>8699649
People bitch because the guy translated Tokimeki, people would bitch if he changed that. Or, as the Japanese say:
>It can't be helped

[Anonymous No.8699665]

I got a hint somewhere in the game that said on later play throughs you have to hold select when you pick continue or something, but I didn't really understand what it meant. What do I have to do to keep going on later play throughs and keep my endings?

[Anonymous No.8699667]

>>8688183
>Ciper the Video
BBBBBASED

[Anonymous No.8699671]

>>8699562
That's why she's best girl.

[Anonymous No.8699679]

>>8699654
That's not how you weigh these kinds of things. You make or don't make changes based on what's right. The title shouldn't have been changed because the game already has an established presence even outside of Japan. The foreign lingo Ayako uses should have been maintained in proportion to the target language.

The answer isn't to change everything wholesale or play everything safe. That's an excuse not to think.

[Anonymous No.8699685]

>>8699665
I'm not sure if that's how it works but imagine that is if you want to reset the current gameplay but keep the endings of that file said. Because after you finish and save, when you continue you already start at a new game+. So just finish, save, continue, normaly. The heart in your save file will indicate how many girls you won and you can replay their endings in the options menu.

[Anonymous No.8699690]

>>8699685
Is it normal to have to re-enter my character's name, birthday, and blood type on subsequent plays?

[Anonymous No.8699692]

>>8699690
Yes, but just your name. The dates of you and Shiori will be saved if you want to use it again, but you can also change it, of course.

[Anonymous No.8699804]

>>8699632
Well hey, as they say in English... "My bad!"
Literally any other language would've been better for this quirk. She just sounds retarded interjecting English with English.

[Anonymous No.8699853]

>>8699804
You... you do know the original language isn't English, right? She's not speaking English.

[Anonymous No.8699875]

>>8699853
You can maybe justify it using that kind of roundabout logic where you say, "Uh, in their universe, they're still speaking Japanese." This requires stepping outside the box to acknowledge that the only reason you can understand them is because you're playing a video game, similar to Star Trek's universal translator. Or, they could have just changed it to another fashionable language and avoided that weird dissonance entirely.

[Anonymous No.8699898]

>>8699875
not that anon but you know I can understand why tom did this , dude it´s very dedicated to his niche who is trnaslting everything with fidelity to the text and the problem of changing dialogue it´s people complaining how the translator changed somethign even when the changes makes sense honestly I don´t mind since the alternative it´s good (colored text when ayako it´s speaking in english)

[Anonymous No.8699912]

>>8699679
Play it in Jap then and all your problems would be solved

[Anonymous No.8699913]

>>8699853
Yes, I'm quite aware we're reading subtitles as they're speaking moonrunes. However, the fact she's interjecting foreign phrases is lost when it's all in the same language of the actual translation.

[Anonymous No.8699924]

I've been playing for 20 minutes and besides the introductory scene there's no dialogue or anything really, i'm just studying and clicking on stat increasing activities

The fuck is this game
Am I doing something wrong

[Anonymous No.8699940]

>>8699924
It's not what you're doing, it's what you're not doing. There's no wrong way to play, but some girls only appears if your do a specific activity or raise certain stats enough. And you have Shiori, you can try nviting her to dates in your free days.

[Anonymous No.8699947]

>>8699924
It turns out it's not a visual novel after all

[Anonymous No.8699964]

>>8699898
That's what I've heard, but there's something that doesn't smell right about it. I've played 30 minutes or so of this translation now and there are things that aren't translated word-for-word or are embellished for flavor, and there are things that aren't. So where is the line?

And if the object is to sidestep nitpickers, why change the title, which is the absolute biggest sore you could have aggravated?

>>8699912
I've played Forever with You multiple times. I'm worried for people who are being introduced to a great game via an already-shoddy port, now with a translation that has like, 1995 standards and practices baked into it.

[Anonymous No.8699965]

>>8699964
>I've played Forever with You multiple times. I'm worried for people who are being introduced to a great game via an already-shoddy port, now with a translation that has like, 1995 standards and practices baked into it.
Then translate it yourself?

[Anonymous No.8699969]

>voiced version of Tokimemo gets translated
>translators change Katagiri's English blurt outs to Spanish
>some spanish shit in the subs while she blatantly blurts out ZATS BEAUTIFUL. SO FUN
bros?

[Anonymous No.8699982]

>>8699969
it wouldn't be as jarring as you think it is. or if it is, it's still leagues beneath a character speaking english and occasionally showing off their... english

[Anonymous No.8699997]

>>8699982
No, it's not. You're nitpicking hard.
>game takes place in Japan
>character mentions English
>text is colored different
It's all there for an easy interpretation.

[Anonymous No.8700012]

>>8699997
i'm not, and "text is colored different" doesn't mean anything. but sure, we can move on.

for our next round, who can tell me why characters say "I was a little tired today." after a bad date?

[Anonymous No.8700016]

>>8700012
They are trying to be nice about how bad you botched it

[Anonymous No.8700019]

How come you just don't ask the translator yourself if you really want to nitpick?

[Anonymous No.8700029]

>>8700012
Have you tried reaching the translator about your doubts? I found some typos in the first version of the patch and he replied to my DMs on Twitter in a very friendly manner. Or are you afraid he might be an alt right nazi like the HG101/ResetEra mobs claimed?

[Anonymous No.8700051]

>>8700012
>"I was a little tired today"
Obviously the date didn't go well, but she doesn't want to be a cunt about it. Do you have autism?

[Anonymous No.8700063]

>>8699969
I think using the Famicom port is part of the complaint. Lacking the voice overs doesnt help ground the reader whenever they suddenly start spouting suparr kyut ingrish in the script.

[Anonymous No.8700070]

>>8700016
>>8700051
how does that phrase mean that, though. when have you heard someone say "i was tired today" as a graceful let-down in english?

>>8700029
it's not typos i'm finding, it's entire deficits of understandings and judgments of taste. and it's a number of them. when you get to that level it's no longer "hey i found a booboo" it's zeroing in on their competency which, deserved or not, -never- goes over well

[Anonymous No.8700074]

>>8700070
>how does that phrase mean that, though. when have you heard someone say "i was tired today" as a graceful let-down in english?
Are you being serious right now anon?

[Anonymous No.8700079]

>>8700070
Holy shit, why not just play the Japanese version instead?

[Anonymous No.8700091]

>>8700070
If you're this upset at it why not translate it yourself?

[Anonymous No.8700098]

>>8700070
How about you make us a video series playing the Japanese and the translated version at the same time while commenting line by line like Tim Rogers did with Final Fantasy 7?

[Anonymous No.8700125]

>>8700098
you dare me? fine, i absolutely will

[Anonymous No.8700171]

>>8687983
Just started on the prologue now. Is it just me/my setup or is the text scroll speed insanely slow? Hopefully there are settings for this after the prologue is done otherwise it’s borderline unplayable imo

[Anonymous No.8700206]

>>8699913
No it’s not. No one playing this doesn’t know it’s Japanese. Literally no one.

[Anonymous No.8700214]

>>8700051
> Do you have autism?
Read any of this guy’s posts for the easy answer

[Anonymous No.8700215]

>>8700171
yes, you can make it faster after prologue, its still not that fast but better

[Anonymous No.8700217]

>>8700125
You will never do anything close to interesting or useful and you know it

[Anonymous No.8700225]

I like this game
good it was translated even if its only snes version

[Anonymous No.8700230]

>>8700070
>how does that phrase mean that, though
She's trying to ease the burden of the failed date from your shoulders a bit, by saying she didn't get much sleep and that's probably why she wasn't very enthusiastic about the date.

[Anonymous No.8700234]

>>8700225
I'm really liking too. It's like playing a strategy board game.

[Anonymous No.8700235]

>>8700225
>>8700234
I’m loving it

[Anonymous No.8700239]

>>8700012
This anon is correct in that "I was a little tired today" sounds like she's making an excuse for some behavior on her part/the state she was in the whole time, whereas the Japanese is "I'm tired." i.e. she's NOW in a tired state (due to that unfun date).
But at least the meaning seems to be making it through to players as seen in >>8700016 and >>8700051 so it's not the end of the world.

[Anonymous No.8700246]

>>8700239
lol it's only making it through to them because i couldn't present it in a way that doesn't telegraph it somewhat/they watched the tim rogers video

[Anonymous No.8700249]

>>8696694
How do you join a club? Haven’t been given the option yet

[Anonymous No.8700254]

>>8700246
>lol it's only making it through to them because i couldn't present it in a way that doesn't telegraph it somewhat/they watched the tim rogers video
Or and bare with me, I'm not an autist and can pick up on social cues

[Anonymous No.8700258]

>>8700246
Who the fuck is Tim Rogers?

[Anonymous No.8700260]

>>8700246
You have autism

[Anonymous No.8700263]

>>8700225
>>8700234
It's a shame this genre just completely died off
Seems like people want completely pre-scripted romance stories these days rather than this sort of freeform, stats & imagination-based experience
There's lots of TokiMemo clones in the 90s to play through at least

[Anonymous No.8700265]

>>8700263
Any recs for good ones I can play in English? Anything available on CDRomance is good

[Anonymous No.8700284]

>>8700265
I think the only other ones in English at all are Bloody Bride for PS1 and True Love for Windows 95 (which is on Steam now)
And then a couple of TokiMemo Girls' Side games with female player characters

[Anonymous No.8700296]

>>8700284
Wait, what? True Love, the classic eroge, is on Steam?

[Anonymous No.8700297]

>>8700296
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1094640/True_Love_95/

[Anonymous No.8700302]

>>8700284
It's not /vr/, but Love+Plus on the Nintendo DS is also translated. It's a weird-ass game that's somehow both a very vanilla dating sim and very experimental at the same game.

[Anonymous No.8700308]

>>8700284
I saw Bloody Bride on CDRomance and was curious about it. Any good?

[Anonymous No.8700316]

>>8700239
Lmao is this shit MTL?

[Anonymous No.8700320]

>>8700246
Wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.8700321]

>>8697472
A history: A company named élf made a sequel to their famous dating sim series called Kakyuusei 2 (First game in the series, Doukyuusei was the precursor to dating sims even before Tokimeki Memorial, and pretty huge in Japan. The company themselves used to be a behemoth in the eroge industry, with YU-NO, -saku series, Dragon Knight series, and Doukyuusei/Kakyuusei series under their belt, along with numerous other old VNs.) They spend much on promotional materials to advertise this new dating sim game, with an anime series that comes out before the game. They are so confident that the game will success, that they dare to put the release date of the game the same as Rance VI to rival Alice Soft (Look to the VNDB release date on both games if you don't believe me). But when the game comes out, it revealed to the players that:

1. The face of the game, the childhood friend main heroine Saimon Tamaki, told the MC when asked that she already in relationship with a rich medical student, and still in relationship with said boyfriend when the player enters her route. This is in contrast to all previous main heroines in their previous games of the series that doesn't have any boyfriend or even any knowledge of sex beforehand.

2. The scenes. The player can spot said childhood friend main heroine kissed, an groped on the crotch by said boyfriend while she clearly looks enjoying it. In front of the peeping MC. WITH EXCLUSIVE CG DEDICATED TO THE SCENE. You also can sometime catch her just walks out of a love hotel when exploring the city. In previous games, the heroine can flies off to another guy, but that's failure event if the player doesn't chase said heroine or fail spectacularly trying to get her. Here, it's a normal CG that you can get when trying to get her, and one will only unlock if you have sufficient affection rating to her. So the player basically already 'lost' her before the game starts.

[Anonymous No.8700326]

>>8698218
I agree with both of you.

I think that The name should have been left untouched as the majority of people that already knew about the me before the translation was released knew it by it's original name. Using Attack on Titan doesn't really make sense because it was a widely released commercial product that the majority, i'm talking like 99% of people who heard about it after it was translated, didn't know what it was before hand.

However, I also agree with you that if you want to complain and get that frustrated about it, go and learn Japanese and play it. I did so myself last year and it was probably my best gaming memory of the year, if not for a few years.

[Anonymous No.8700332]

>>8699898
>dude it´s very dedicated to his niche who is trnaslting everything with fidelity to the text
Code for google translate with edits

[Anonymous No.8700334]

>>8700321
3. The heroine's personality and route. During her route, it's necessary that you take her to dates if you want to get despite knowing that she already has a boyfriend. Later on, after her affection rating is high enough, her boyfriend starts taking her home after you date her. The day after that, when you meet her again, the MC asks if it's okay to keep dating her, she assures him it's fine. After being fetched 1 or 2 more times by said boyfriend after you date her, you find her having a quarrel with said boyfriend in front of a love hotel because she keeps dating her childhood friend, before he finally breaks up with her, wishing her happiness with the MC afterwards, and leaves with his car. After that she depressed and you have to cheer her up by being her rebound guy.

Later in her first sex scene the MC asks if she has done sex with the boyfriend, she confirms it and asks him to understand because she loved her very much.

Nevertheless, all these pissed people very much, which is understandable.

[Anonymous No.8700337]

>>8699804
Perfect example of how voice acting would help, even if the subtitle is translated.

I mean, ideally you play in Japanese, but yeah. Another example of why the PS1 version is the best.

[Anonymous No.8700339]

>>8700308
second this, never heard of it

[Anonymous No.8700341]

Start a Tokimeki General, we have surpassed 500 replies.

[Anonymous No.8700343]

>>8700326
Attack on Titan is a terrible example in general, since it's how the author intends for the title to be read in English. Like, it's written right on the cover of the Japanese volumes.

[Anonymous No.8700345]

>>8700284
What’s the one in your pic?
>>8700334
> Nevertheless, all these pissed people very much, which is understandable.
Lol no it is not. It’s a video game.

[Anonymous No.8700348]

>>8700341
You do it

[Anonymous No.8700349]

>>8700345
Why would anyone want to date a whore who cheats on her boyfriend?

[Anonymous No.8700351]

>>8700349
Some day you’ll lose your virginity and understand

[Anonymous No.8700358]

>>8700351
No way fag

[Anonymous No.8700362]

>>8700316
Yes and everyone knows it, outside of this board which 90% are playing it merely to see if the translator made any more accidental off-color choices that might make twitter angry.

Every personality minor or major who has been championing this game for years or even decades has been eerily silent about this. And you might think it's because it's the worst version of the game and that's part of it but most fans would at least applaud the work done. But no, nothing

[Anonymous No.8700375]

>>8700362
I have no problem with MTLs for obscure-ass dating sims that will never get translated otherwise, but using it for something as iconic as Tokimeki feels a bit scummy. Since there absolutely are "real" translators who would have done it.

[Anonymous No.8700379]

>>8700375
Well, why haven't any of these "real" translators done anything then?

[Anonymous No.8700381]

>>8700349
It’s a video game. It only seems real to you because your entire reality is based around video games and things you read on the computer. Go outside.

[Anonymous No.8700382]

>>8700379
bros, stop saying this. "I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE TRYING TO DO ANY BETTER!!!" is the dumbest shit you can possibly say in a discussion like this. either refute the criticisms or shut up

[Anonymous No.8700390]

I'm a brainlet and I can't get the translation patch to work
does someone have a prepatched rom

[Anonymous No.8700395]

>>8700382
Translate it yourself or just go play the Japanese version instead you little faggot.

[Anonymous No.8700402]

>>8700382
Ok but... why haven't they?

[Anonymous No.8700405]

>>8700402
>"This game is so iconic!!!"
>No one bothered to translate it for fucking decades

[Anonymous No.8700413]

>>8700402
because it's the technical side of it that's the issue. it is a much rarer skill to do the hacking and that makes it more important in a vacuum because there are far more translators out there willing to do the script, both competent and incompetent.

let that sink in. the hackers could have tried to partner with any number of vocal fans who are rabid about the game and even pro translators to boot, or someone in between, and instead they chose someone who rendered everything literally because "that's his thing"

[Anonymous No.8700417]

>>8700413
So why didn't somebody else do it? This guy is literally the first one ever that knows how to hack a SNES game?

[Anonymous No.8700418]

>>8700413
Sounds like "translators" are just being lazy assholes and making excuses then.

[Anonymous No.8700419]

>>8700413
>the hackers could have tried to partner with any number of vocal fans who are rabid about the game and even pro translators to boot
Couldn't this work the other way? Translators could have found another hacker too. They had the same amount of time.

[Anonymous No.8700435]

>stop having fun with a translation expected for almost 30 years, it's not faithful, don't play it!

[Anonymous No.8700439]

>>8700417
>>8700418
>>8700419
i suspect at least one of you is being purposefully dishonest and another one of you is just not trying to use your brain at all on your own before asking questions (which is aggravating) but i'm betting at least one out of three is genuinely curious and willing to listen:

just because you know dis/assembly for a certain system doesn't mean you can weave in and out of any rom or iso like it's nothing. games still have their own inherent architecture to them and need to be figured out on their own somewhat. tokimemo also has what we might call "special needs" and requires a fair bit of extra image work and things like retooling for player name logic compared to your average game.

on top of that, tokimemo sfc had at least one aborted translation project in the past where the hackers and translators left behind notes and tools, which may have helped (i don't know exactly what the process these guys used was). there's plenty of old forum posts and such to go along with that as well, so presumably they weren't starting from absolute zero. yet the hackers involved in this did, i think, do a very good job, because it does seem to run mostly well on most emulators and hardware, and without any glitches or anything. it probably took somewhat rare skill and quite a bit of extra specialization that may have been cultivated over a long period of time. hence... maybe be more choosy about your script monkey, since from the player side of things that is ultimately the key component

[Anonymous No.8700441]

>>8700349
NTR wouldn't exist if no one fantasized about it.

[Anonymous No.8700446]

>>8700439
When your 4chan post is so angry and long it needs a paragraph long preface like an essay

[Anonymous No.8700449]

>>8700446
>le post long
the ancient refuge of the dipshit

[Anonymous No.8700456]

>>8700449
lmao its not like he's writing a dissertation on ancient literature or some shit. He's whining about people having fun with a great video game the "wrong" way

[Anonymous No.8700462]

>>8700441
I don't care if people get off to NTR, but keep it out of a game that doesn't otherwise have any of that shit.

[Anonymous No.8700463]

>>8700362
Tim Rogers worked for Kotaku. Even if this translation was incredibly accurate and its syntax and vocabulary were outstanding, he wouldn't acknowledge it because of Resetera and HG101's shit fit over newhalf being translated properly in Goemon.

[Anonymous No.8700465]

>>8700456
and yet here you are replying to it and any relevant post with stunning immediacy, like a dog waiting for scraps

[Anonymous No.8700469]

>>8700462
It's a game where you fuck all the girls, not a pure love story.

[Anonymous No.8700470]

>>8700465
Yeah, I'm at my computer wasting company time. It's not exactly strenuous

[Anonymous No.8700475]

man, everyone here's just finding small-ass shit to bitch about and i'm here playing because the girls are cute lmao.

[Anonymous No.8700478]

>>8700462
you will never find love

[Anonymous No.8700480]

>>8700475
same lol

[Anonymous No.8700487]

>>8700463
Actionbuttonfag here. In his discord he directly addressed it calling it the "trashcan version" and said the localizers have no taste considering the title thing lol. also in his recent videos he more or less speaks poorly of kotaku as an entity and he rarely if ever virtue signals.

[Anonymous No.8700494]

>>8700487
>he more or less speaks poorly of kotaku as an entity
What did he say? I haven't seen this yet

[Anonymous No.8700495]

>>8700470
i use that evasion tactic as well. you probably learned it from me somewhere on this site. the truth is even if you do have time to waste you chose to spend it stepping down into the sewer with me, so keep sloppin' on, lil' man.

[Anonymous No.8700497]

>>8700495
lol ok buddy you take care

[Anonymous No.8700503]

>>8700495
>you probably learned it from me somewhere on this site
The sign of someone who never leaves 4chan and cannot imagine someone having a life outside of it projecting

[Anonymous No.8700506]

>>8700345
>What’s the one in your pic?
Yuuwaku Office

[Anonymous No.8700513]

>>8700494
Aside from the people who were around his level who he seems to actually be friends with like the other journalists he often shit talks the place as a whole for being corporate trash. Im paraphrasing and can't really cite any particular segment but when he was still making videos for kotaku he would get weirdly defensive about people asking "why are you at a place like that? what you do is so much better than everything else there" and it's obvious now that he agreed with those sentiments

[Anonymous No.8700526]

Is the Tim Rogers video worth watching?

[Anonymous No.8700530]

>>8700503
there's room down here for you too, right alongside mr. "snippy reply in 30 seconds or your pizza's free." cowabunga!

[Anonymous No.8700548]

>>8700526
It's one of the best pieces of content ever made for Youtube

[Anonymous No.8700550]

rei's the best. Wish he got more screentime in the game

[Anonymous No.8700552]

>>8700526
Its self-indulgent and pretentious but if that doesn't bother you then yes

[Anonymous No.8700554]

>>8700530
Not the guy you're pretending to argue with, but this along with your other posts reads like something Chris-Chan would say

[Anonymous No.8700557]

>>8700530
You aren't replying to just one person anon

[Anonymous No.8700563]

>>8700506
Is it available in English?

[Anonymous No.8700565]

>>8700390
It was linked already in the thread anon

[Anonymous No.8700567]

>>8700554
run back to your closet-homo kiwifarms hugbox

>>8700557
wow it's almost like my post addressed two distinct people isn't it

[Anonymous No.8700571]

>>8700557
Oh yeah RIGHT next you're going to tell me I'm NOT gay

[Anonymous No.8700606]

>>8700548
This is true. I would also then follow it up with his full playthrough on his archive channel. All great content.

[Anonymous No.8700609]

>>8700563
nah

[Anonymous No.8700665]

>>8700609

[Anonymous No.8700682]

>>8700665
Just use google glass with google translate app bro

[Anonymous No.8700717]

>>8700665
maybe someone will translate these in another 30 years

[Anonymous No.8700995]

>>8700263
It died off because Enterbrain perfected the genere with Amagami, and shot themselves in the foot shortly thereafter.

[Anonymous No.8701039]

Which version of Mira's theme is the best and why is it the PS1 version?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23DvEzQqU0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anr7cxGt7Y4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VG9rFk6zQY

[Anonymous No.8701053]

>>8700249
In weekends or holidays you can join a club

[Anonymous No.8701063]

>>8700308
pretty good though you must grind a bit in the final dungeon also the guide for the game is lost media and you are gonna need it if you want the cg beware though because the game was translated by someone using a japanese dictionary and some phrases are pretty awkward

[Anonymous No.8701075]

>>8700334
Yikes thanks for the info anon no wonder the company go bankrupt , such shame because I like the dragon knight series

[Anonymous No.8701090]

Can someone help me? I am trying to meet megumi because she it´s the only whose confession I am missing and no matter what she never appears in valentine or christmas . Shiori it´s in tokimeki state and nothing so far

[Anonymous No.8701118]

>>8701090
It's based off of how well you do in tests, the sports festival and maybe a little RNG for exactly when she shows up.

[Anonymous No.8701123]

>>8700339
It´s a rpg/dating sim hybrid you are a vampire , you can suck the blood of so many side girls (among your victims exist a girl who love shotas and you must act like one if you want to suck her blood, your teacher , a samurai , a ojou , a loli (you can´t suck her blood but you receive a kiss in the cheek) fight with vampire hunters , etc. The game it´s pretty easy but you are gonna need a guide for events and dates : for example girls always rejects your dates if you don´t date the others , you need to upgrade your familiar if you want better info and cg , etc pretty good but the translation it´s so-so

[Anonymous No.8701169]

Can someone explain how to use the MSU files to me like I'm a complete baby brained idiot?

[Anonymous No.8701189]

>>8701169
just make sure they're in the same folder as the rom and that the rom has the same name as the .msu file, in other words, make sure it's named "Heartthrob Memorial (English).sfc" Also, if you're trying to use bsnes make sure to download the latest version of the patch since it's got files that bsnes needs to run the game correctly

[Anonymous No.8701213]

>>8698704
>I think the difference is that there's a gameplay component to this specific example
Yeah the thought that my example wasn't a perfect comparison was in my head but it was way too easy of a target to pick in a Tokimeki thread. It's not like you're barred from progress if you screw up the Goldilocks thing though like say a quiz game like Tokimeki Houkago, or someone killing you and sending you back to a save point. But your point is good.

I still wouldn't trust burntends if he were left alone in a room with a translated game script though. His axe to grind with "the weebs" is way too big. Hell I thought the Bulk Slash dub actually sounded really good but obviously people will complain about it, yet he goes off and gets in fights with them in the CDR comments. Not a good look.

[Anonymous No.8701218]

>>8701039
because the ps1 is the best version.

[Anonymous No.8701224]

>>8701189
That worked thank you! Don't know why it's a pain in the ass to find simple explanations for this kind of thing, that was incredibly easy

[Anonymous No.8701291]

What do you get from new game plus besides the endings in your menu? If I start a new game on a clean slate ROM am I losing anything important?

[Anonymous No.8701450]

>>8700326
I'd argue that the "well people know it as Tokimeki" argument doesn't really hold water because this is at best a niche game outside of Japan. The whole point of fan translating it and localizing the title is to make it more accessible to the broad English speaking audience. Despite all the vigorous claims to the contrary here, nobody did it before this because nobody cared enough. Those who did either know enough Japanese that they played it in the original language, or they used a FAQ/Walkthrough to get through it.
Basically, none of these "arguments" hold any water, they're just bad faith gatekeeping over some weeb dating sim.

[Anonymous No.8701458]

>>8701118
thanks friend finally met her in valentines day

[Anonymous No.8701546]

>>8697687
toheart2 has two chill childhood friends, and you get to fuck them together

[Anonymous No.8701684]

New thread >>8701683

[Anonymous No.8701750]

>>8690262
>facsimile of tim rogers
What is the issue with him? I saw his Action Button review of the game and while I skipped through the self indulging history shit and the autistic as fuck ending about confessing to Shiori, I found his coverage of the game itself good rnough.

[Anonymous No.8702124]

>>8700550
my friend, if you want more rei time, call him on the phone an insane amount of times.
also, this is one of the biggest spoilers in the game, so don't mouse over if you want to find out yourself, but rei will wait for you under the tree if you call him 70 times

[Anonymous No.8702736]