CRT/LCD Shader thread

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CRT/LCD Shader thread Anonymous Thu Mar 3 02:24:32 2022 No.8679748 [Reply] [Original]

share your shader autism

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 02:33:25 2022 No.8679763 File: 1.44 MB, 1300x943, Nightmare Creatures (USA)-220226-223756.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 03:16:17 2022 No.8679837 I've never seen a TV ever look like any CRT shader

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 03:23:39 2022 No.8679841 >>8679837 that's nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 03:30:23 2022 No.8679848 >>8679841 I'm wondering does PAL have an impact on this scanline effect? I grew up with pal so having an extra, like, 315 pixels of display or some shit. Maybe that minimized the visible lines? Or maybe Americans just had shot quality tvs

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 03:33:38 2022 No.8679854 >>8679848 >shader thread >"americans" obsessed go outside, touch grass

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 03:44:07 2022 No.8679869 File: 885 KB, 932x886, ws46y.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8679837 Actual crt looks too shitty. crt shader makers actually apply some improvements to the base base crt looks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 04:16:39 2022 No.8679927 >>8679854 >touch grass Americans finally learned a second come back

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 04:32:03 2022 No.8679950 File: 1.46 MB, 1480x1120, Donkey Kong Country (USA) (Rev 2)-220225-025522.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HIS COCONUT GUN

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:06:10 2022 No.8680000
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i like shaders because they've gotten to a point that even the most basic bitch setup is an improvement over raw pixels

don't really care that much about accuracy to the real thing

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:12:09 2022 No.8680008 >>8679869 laughs in 1280x1024 Dell monitor Box TVs were all over the place but latr 90s early 2000s PC CRTs were some good shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 05:13:48 2022 No.8680013 >>8679869 >his only point of reference for CRTs is digital photos posted on the internet >he's never seen a CRT in real life >he has no idea how they look to the naked eye Everybody point at the zoomer and laugh

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 07:28:18 2022 No.8680218
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>>8679837
>>8680013

I used to use a mid-2000s PC CRT monitor specifically for emulation (pic related), and from a viewing distance of around 3 feet, it wasn't THAT different from some of the more simple CRT shaders.

Unless you got REAL close to the screen, the phosphors were unnoticeable, and whites/brighter colors were BRIGHT and not darkened by the gaps between scanlines, as some shaders (and this photo) make them appear.
The scanlines themselves vary in thickness depending on the brightness of the color displayed, tapering out as they transition to darker colors. While this effect is visible in the photo, the black gaps would basically be invisible when displaying whites.

One of the reasons people claim 4k is the lowest possible resolution for accurate CRT shaders is that they try to recreate the phosphors, which is totally unnecessary and not something you'd even see unless you're inches from the screen and actively looking for them. The basic effect can be attained at much lower resolutions with tapering scanlines, horizontal blur, and a slight glow.
People fetishize "accuracy" too much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 08:13:52 2022 No.8680272 >>8680218 Using the appropriate hardware that looks the best is not fetishizing accuracy. Zoomers don't understand that people play on CRTs because they look great, not because they are accurate. CRT filters are neither accurate nor look good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 08:35:06 2022 No.8680305 >>8680272 >"*oomers" >conflating opinion with fact Use a trip.

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 09:07:34 2022 No.8680359
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Hello, fellow emulatorists, i had fallen for CRT Royale meme and for crt shader meme in general, had installed retroarch, tried to make crt royal look decent, but ended up with a bit blurry picture. How do i fix it? And, in case i would be asked to show my presets for better examination, how do i share them? Just send a file, which i had saved?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 10:58:11 2022 No.8680557 >>8680359 nice teef

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 11:03:12 2022 No.8680561

>>8680557
While i understand, that you had seen this as a signal toward another shitpost holywar about "superquality of design", i actually have some problem with this preset, as it, somehow, makes my eyes feel tires, which doesn't happen with ANY other thing on same screen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 11:49:20 2022 No.8680668 File: 475 KB, 1411x1080, U.N. Squadron (USA) (patched)-220301-174952.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 12:03:33 2022 No.8680702
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Pretty happy with the crt-guest-dr-venom preset after some minor tweaks to use it at a low resolution. It even disables interlacing at 480p.
It's not exactly like my old monitor, but it's close enough to keep me from lugging it out of storage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 12:54:18 2022 No.8680850 >>8680008 >1280x1024 Why anyone would ever use this resolution on a CRT monitor is beyond me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 15:30:35 2022 No.8681272 >>8679837 This >>8680668 looks like my Toshiba set. TV looks a wee bit softer, but that might be due to age.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 15:45:07 2022 No.8681331 File: 3.32 MB, 4032x3024, PXL_20211218_062405273.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8679748 What game is this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 15:48:29 2022 No.8681342 >>8681331 looks like side pocket

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 15:51:54 2022 No.8681351 >>8679748 Why do you guys like noise in your image?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 15:57:54 2022 No.8681367 >>8681331 >pool game well that screen lied to me

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 16:12:30 2022 No.8681414

>>8681351
Because it smoothes down stuff. If image is formed with undiscorded "raw" pixels, it takes, well, pixelated form with many clearly seen squares. If you use crt or emulation filter, you get a) somewhat rounded "pixels", b) black space between them, which was utilized by some designers, c) some diffusion, which, again, smoothes the borders of sprites/models/etc.
In the end it forms a bit more blurry picture, yet parts of this picture look more like objects they're supposed to be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 16:14:31 2022 No.8681421 >>8679854 Are you just pretending NTSC and PAL isn't a thing? They have different resolutions therefore the games would display differently on a CRT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 16:16:53 2022 No.8681428 My tv had more vertical rectangle pixels instead of just a bunch of scanlines.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 16:19:47 2022 No.8681436 >>8681414 Interesting. I can't interpret those images as softer . Idk maybe my brain can only focus on the pattern or something and interprets the image as noisy

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 16:28:12 2022 No.8681463 File: 2.41 MB, 1317x1080, Twisted Metal 2 (USA)-220301-000516.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 16:34:41 2022 No.8681480 >>8681421 Damn it'd be a shame if that's what was said, huh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 17:55:36 2022 No.8681692 File: 1.73 MB, 1621x1080, 1620377103207.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 18:02:18 2022 No.8681706 File: 2.74 MB, 2882x1080, 1626246852076.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 18:08:28 2022 No.8681719 File: 1.66 MB, 2881x1080, 1619721123174.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8681706

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 18:10:57 2022 No.8681724 File: 2.55 MB, 2881x1080, 1627800720977.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8681719

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 18:18:30 2022 No.8681737 >>8680000 wholesome and checked

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 19:15:40 2022 No.8681849 File: 3.16 MB, 2881x1080, 1619642407185.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 19:22:56 2022 No.8681864 >>8681849 This looks fucking good for this resolution

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 20:03:58 2022 No.8681979
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>>8680359
I'd say install Retroarch in another directory and copy the new shader folder it creates over to your old folder if you want to "reset" CRT Royale. Or you could just open the shader settings in retroarch (where you fine tune the brightness, contrast etc.) and press your controllers right stick (I think) and it resets it back to its original value.

Also google for some more shaders to mess around with, I use an xm29 shader for retro games and I think it looks quite good but you can find ones that suit you from github and stuff, might even have pictures as well.

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 20:09:28 2022 No.8681995
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>>8680359
turn down the halation weight, diffusion weight and bloom excess parameters

>>8681864
here you go, if you want to mess with it:
https://a.uguu.se/iPbMEKqe.slangp

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 21:29:02 2022 No.8682254 What's a good CRT shader for Saturn games on RetroArch?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 21:51:56 2022 No.8682340 File: 2.94 MB, 1440x1080, 1637397175310.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8682254 I like the crt royale ntsc composite preset

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:02:47 2022 No.8682371 File: 35 KB, 700x700, OLD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some of those CRT shaders look pretty cool but they always end up straining my eyes. I guess I'm getting old.

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:02:51 2022 No.8682372

>upscalers for real hardware
>FPGA emulation
do you guys think the CRT simulation on either of these things will ever get as good as shaders on emulators? in emulators the shader effects pass through an entire frame and have a minimal effect on lag, so it seems like it could happen eventually.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:11:07 2022 No.8682395 >>8682371 I have the night light aka blue light filter turned on on my monitor. Maybe that will help you with eye strain. Brightness is lowered too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:06:35 2022 No.8682538 >Failed to load shader preset How does this piece of shit work?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:39:10 2022 No.8682603 File: 2.04 MB, 1190x896, T1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Raw vs. Retroarch vs. Reshade Gaussian vs. Reshade Digital.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 04:24:24 2022 No.8683054 All my consoles back in the day used RF video so I had no noticeable scanlines. Just chad blur-stretch-warp like the developers intended.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 06:06:58 2022 No.8683167 >>8681331 Side by Side Special 2000 for PS1.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 06:47:32 2022 No.8683206

>>8682372
The current firmware on mister has options for simulating certain kinds of TV/monitor, but in order not to introduce too much lag heavily processed shaders that would require full frame buffering are not there. On an emulator you can run the emulation "too fast" and hide your frame buffered lag in there which is arguably "wrong" but for many games it feels just the same.

>>	Natsie Fri Mar 4 07:57:08 2022 No.8683284 >>8680000 It's like magic Crt filters make all ps1 games look good as fuck82rgv

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 11:28:11 2022 No.8683589 File: 1.01 MB, 1440x1080, 1633245834546.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 11:33:46 2022 No.8683610 File: 824 KB, 1440x1080, 1632553611034.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8683589

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 11:35:14 2022 No.8683614 >>8683589 Cropped integer scale?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 11:43:29 2022 No.8683635 File: 1.33 MB, 1440x1080, 1634562767428.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8683614 No, crop overscan turned off since it crops more than it should

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 12:06:23 2022 No.8683702 File: 150 KB, 960x720, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 14:01:22 2022 No.8683930 >>8679748 Is that Side by Side Special 2000? Very nice if it is, one of the hidden racing gems on the PS1.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 17:24:00 2022 No.8684342 >>8679748 What's this preset?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 18:50:04 2022 No.8684512 >>8684342 xm29+

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 18:51:36 2022 No.8684517 >>8679950 Retrotink 5x? I personally love that shader

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 18:52:37 2022 No.8684519 File: 2.86 MB, 1440x1080, 1619505612480.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 19:03:58 2022 No.8684542

Honestly i've been using easymode in retro arch simply because it is close enough to my vague memories (it has been 20 years after all) and doesn't require huge internal resolution multipliers like crt royale does. Does make me yearn for 8k screens to be viable but that is a pipe dream for now since 8k basically means "giant" 40"+ screens (otherwise just stick to 4k at monitor sizes).

>>8683589
>>8683610
>>8683635
Resurrection is one of those games where even a badly tuned crt shader shines due to the dark nature of the game. Shame its control scheme is that weird point between digital and what has become the modern dual stick config. Plus it is balls hard in general.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 19:08:00 2022 No.8684550 >>8684517 Nope. CRT-Guest-Advanced using Mask 11.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 19:25:43 2022 No.8684604 >>8684550 looks great. I normally hate, hate CRT filters but the Retrotink is making me re-consider it, at least for PS2 stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 23:58:16 2022 No.8685257 >>8681331 Why do comfy pool games no longer exist

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 07:41:05 2022 No.8685889 >>8685257 Nobody under the age of 35 plays pool on an electronic device.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 08:04:55 2022 No.8685923 >>8679950 >>8680359 >>8680668 >>8681463 >>8681692 >>8681979 >>8682340 >>8683635 >>8684519 Imagine thinking these shaders look anything like a CRT. Do zoomers really?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 08:12:14 2022 No.8685934 >>8685923 >every crt is a sony PVM

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 08:17:10 2022 No.8685943 >>8685934 Those shaders don't look anything like any CRT ever produced in the entire course of recorded history.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 08:42:29 2022 No.8685972 rent free

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 09:13:53 2022 No.8686039 >>8685889 Facts. Buddy has a pool table

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 10:19:05 2022 No.8686147 File: 1.97 MB, 1440x1080, 1616697596348.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8686143

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 10:20:31 2022 No.8686149 File: 2.13 MB, 1440x1080, 1642188002033.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8686147

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:09:40 2022 No.8686246 File: 2.33 MB, 1440x1080, 1640612741105.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:11:23 2022 No.8686251 File: 2.31 MB, 1440x1080, 1629107153060.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8686246

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:13:24 2022 No.8686256 File: 2.24 MB, 1440x1080, 1645897505328.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8686251

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:18:30 2022 No.8686273 File: 2.18 MB, 1440x1080, 1636492068491.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8686256

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:19:41 2022 No.8686274 >>8686149 what preset is this

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:22:16 2022 No.8686278 >>8686274 crt-royale-ntsc-composite with changed parameters https://a.uguu.se/kQXDrwm.slangp

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:42:12 2022 No.8686314 File: 3.04 MB, 2880x2160, retroarch 2022-03-05 11-37-10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want 8k!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:47:02 2022 No.8686326 File: 3.64 MB, 2960x2152, retroarch 2022-03-05 11-44-08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some call me MAMA LUIGI, nigga!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 11:58:22 2022 No.8686341 File: 3.52 MB, 2880x2160, retroarch 2022-03-05 11-55-43.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tasukete Kami-sama! ONEGAI!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 12:16:54 2022 No.8686383 >>8685943 no one cares

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:07:43 2022 No.8686498 >>8685943 as long as the game looks fine I don't care.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:18:48 2022 No.8686526 Can a computer model be trained to generate a realistic CRT effect for any real-time image from the source image and camera footage pointing at the CRT screen?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:21:53 2022 No.8686538 Does anyone here use shaderglass? It's got a lot of crt shaders from I'm guessing Retroarch. Wanted to know if there are any good setting recommendations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 13:25:14 2022 No.8686543 >>8686538 what the fucking hell is that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 14:55:56 2022 No.8686737 >>8686543 Look here https://mausimus.itch.io/shaderglass

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 15:10:33 2022 No.8686761 >>8686737 >WIndows 10 only Goddamn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 03:44:32 2022 No.8688512 File: 1.77 MB, 1920x1080, chrono nigger.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 03:59:39 2022 No.8688535 >>8688512 all those years i thought snes is a home console

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 04:07:57 2022 No.8688542 >>8679748 Mislabeling everything as a mental disorder, when it isn't an actual mental disorder, is a mental disorder

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 06:50:09 2022 No.8688775 >>8679869 >here's my shitty composhite only 15 inches CRT TV not an argument, zoomlord

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 07:00:05 2022 No.8688786 >>8680850 I'm using it right now on my late 2006 flatron set. It's the perfect size for browsing & file management and I can get >60Hz refresh rate. 1600x1200 is too small for my taste

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 07:01:19 2022 No.8688790 >>8681692 Left image is superior

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 07:01:55 2022 No.8688791 >>8688790 Only if you're a gay sack of fucking shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 07:05:54 2022 No.8688794 >>8688791 I'm viewing it through a CRT TRANNYFAG

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 07:08:27 2022 No.8688797 >>8688794 No one cares. Go jerk yourself off in a CRT thread, you fucking imbecile.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 09:16:03 2022 No.8689171 Why do (some) CRTfags feel threatened by shaders that they feel the need to enter a thread they don't like just to screech like monkeys? Fuck off and go play your videogames, cuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 09:37:37 2022 No.8689235 >>8689171 Because you touch yourself at night

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 09:45:02 2022 No.8689257 >>8689171 If you aren't having fun the way I do you are having badwrongfun and must be killed on sight. See also: collectors reeeing over rom dumps.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 11:05:54 2022 No.8689458 File: 3.43 MB, 1543x1080, 1646454815227.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8689456

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 11:07:02 2022 No.8689461 File: 3.46 MB, 1543x1080, 1627716511935.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8689458

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 11:44:06 2022 No.8689531 >>8689458 Best

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 13:39:04 2022 No.8689758 >>8688786 But why? It's 5:4, and CRTs are 4:3, so it'll look squished horizontally. Wouldn't 1280x960 make more sense?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 13:43:30 2022 No.8689769 >>8689758 Or hell, a custom 1366x1024 resolution would also work, I believe, if you want the higher line count while retaining 4:3 AR.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 13:43:34 2022 No.8689770 >>8689531 But the transparency doesn't work?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 15:27:31 2022 No.8690041 File: 3.56 MB, 2990x4320, retroarch 2022-03-06 15-24-08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SGB or handheld border?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 15:34:16 2022 No.8690054 >>8690041 How about in GBC mode with an LCD shader?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 15:37:03 2022 No.8690061 >>8690041 sgb

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 16:13:44 2022 No.8690135 File: 2.83 MB, 2402x2160, retroarch 2022-03-06 16-10-27.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8690054 Like this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 16:18:40 2022 No.8690149 >>8690135 Add a GBC border and we're good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 16:26:46 2022 No.8690165 >>8690041 sgb with a custom pocket palette

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 16:29:05 2022 No.8690170 >>8689461 the blur really complements the transparencies

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 17:10:08 2022 No.8690305 File: 3.42 MB, 2734x2160, retroarch 2022-03-06 17-05-31.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I modded Pixel Remaster

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 17:54:42 2022 No.8690448 >>8690305 That's T-Edition, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 18:03:19 2022 No.8690465 >>8681331 SP: Ide Ocket

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 18:14:56 2022 No.8690496 File: 1.73 MB, 1020x1330, 1632771087586.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8690448 How can you possibly know that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 18:16:16 2022 No.8690501 >>8690496 Rivetfags are easy to spot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 23:35:20 2022 No.8691519 File: 175 KB, 1600x900, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 00:01:15 2022 No.8691608 >>8690170 it's just what composite does

Anonymous Mon Mar 7 04:33:22 2022 No.8692080
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>get 4K TV
>hook up dedicated emulation PC to it
>fucker can't into 4K at 60Hz because lolintelgraphics
>don't have any more spare cash for a GPU at the moment
>fuck it, 1080p it is
>spend an hour fucking around with crt-guest-advanced and see what I can salvage out of the situation
>somehow get it looking damn good despite the 1080p-to-4K upscaling
>mfw

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 04:37:21 2022 No.8692084 File: 67 KB, 540x564, 1604829686944.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Princeton Graphics Arcadia 27" 800×600 VGA monitor >apply CRT filter to make it look like a much shittier tube

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 10:44:21 2022 No.8692898 File: 1.55 MB, 1440x1080, 1634911836196.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] crt inside a crt inside a lcd

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 10:46:00 2022 No.8692908 >>8692084 i did this with a pc monitor i had because i wanted the home console vibe funnily enough it worked out perfect

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 10:47:09 2022 No.8692912 File: 2.44 MB, 1190x896, test.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Raw, no composite, GTU composite, NTSC composite, both at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 10:52:28 2022 No.8692928 >>8692912 №2 looks good for the interface, №3 for everything else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 10:59:29 2022 No.8692950 >>8692928 Yeah the composite option is a bit extreme on 2D elements.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:12:37 2022 No.8694325 >>8690448 no it isn't

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:18:46 2022 No.8694626 File: 2.09 MB, 1920x2848, Sonic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] its like magic

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:30:49 2022 No.8694654 >>8694626 It didn't even look like bottom pics on most CRTs back then. It would probably be a flickering dithered area.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:40:37 2022 No.8694675 >>8684519 I remember getting filtered on the final boss of this game. Fun game but got sadistic at the end

Anonymous Tue Mar 8 10:15:09 2022 No.8695828

>>8679748
there is only one monitor you need and its this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBZ5I1pCHF8

I like the picture better than my Commodore 1702, can do CGA/RGB/RCA/TIT, green screen selectable. Nice compact size as well, rebadged professional monitor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 10:23:01 2022 No.8695840 >>8683702 this looks great

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 12:38:42 2022 No.8696120 >>8683702 >hurr durr lets add chromatic aberration to a gameboy game /vr/ keep digging

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 16:34:33 2022 No.8696670 >>8696120 Do you think "chromatic aberration" is a catch-all term for distortion or what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 17:23:25 2022 No.8696826 Some of these look great. Do you guys generally set up a different one for each system/emulator, or use a one-size-fits-all approach (unless it's a handheld etc). I've mostly used Retroarch for PS1 games and have stuck with default CRT Royale so far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 17:30:29 2022 No.8696845 File: 3.09 MB, 3516x2880, GUNNM - 04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 03:16:01 2022 No.8698029 >>8696826 I use the same on almost everything, even GBA, Gameboy player was a thing, so it’s arguably a legit way to do it. Sega Megadrive is an exception because of dithering, but even then I just the same shader with different settings

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 14:22:52 2022 No.8699458 >>8696826 Tune it according to the screen type each system was made for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 15:27:21 2022 No.8699656 File: 640 KB, 1280x960, Super Mario Advance 4 - Super Mario Bros. 3 (Virtual Console)-220309-152641.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8696826 I just have one preset for everything. For GB and GBA, I throw a border into the mix.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 16:16:49 2022 No.8699783 File: 1.63 MB, 1680x1050, 443.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8681331

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 16:27:59 2022 No.8699819 File: 16 KB, 217x216, cringe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >using CRT shaders

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 16:51:48 2022 No.8699886 File: 1002 KB, 767x1022, 1626578922901.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 17:01:06 2022 No.8699921 File: 1.85 MB, 1411x1080, 1631787354719.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 17:25:50 2022 No.8699983 File: 2.20 MB, 1411x1080, 1628742664484.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8699921

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 17:41:32 2022 No.8700034 What's a really good 4k hdr oled display that would be best for crt shaders?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 17:43:17 2022 No.8700048 >>8700034 If you're going to shell out the money for a 4k monitor just so you can use CRT shaders, just get a fuckin CRT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 17:49:53 2022 No.8700080 File: 1006 KB, 1530x861, 1624712610185.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8700048 I have a CRT, you nitwit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 17:52:34 2022 No.8700094 >>8700080 Oh so you're retarded, say no more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 17:55:46 2022 No.8700106 File: 212 KB, 629x687, 1626054746394.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8700094 4k monitors can do more than just handle CRT shaders better. You sound like the retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 17:57:35 2022 No.8700108 >>8700106 >that would be best for crt shaders? >>>/trash/

Anonymous Wed Mar 9 18:21:33 2022 No.8700184

>>8700108
Yes, and? I want a display that can do something well. Would you not want that? I also have a CRT. You seem to be implying that you can't want both or would be retarded for wanting both. An idea which itself is retarded. If I'm in the market for a 4k display, I would want it to be good at something I intend to use it for. How is this lost on you, you fucking idiot?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 18:29:20 2022 No.8700213 >>8700184 lol

Anonymous Wed Mar 9 19:34:33 2022 No.8700414

>>8700034
>OLED

Believe it or not, they're actually not the best displays for CRT shaders due to their shitty RGBW subpixel arrangement, which fucks with the phosphor emulation shaders usually employ. Movies and shit, they mog QLED or whatever the fuck for sure, but not in this particular category.

Anyway, what you ideally want is the brightest display you can get your hands on. QLEDs are among the brightest, so you may want to start there. Reason is the brighter the display, they better they can offset the loss in brightness from phosphor emulation and the more convincing the effect will be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 20:14:12 2022 No.8700540 >>8679950 This is so dark it isn't even worth it, man. You guys are a cargo cult.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 20:20:55 2022 No.8700576 >>8699921 >>8699983 What shader?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 20:29:42 2022 No.8700601 >>8700540 Not him but these shaders look different from monitor to monitor. His must have a higher brightness setting to compensate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 21:15:09 2022 No.8700783 File: 1.99 MB, 1411x1080, 1623293490127.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8700576 https://anonfiles .com/TcC7e1Nex1/crt-royale-img-adjust_slangp

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 21:42:37 2022 No.8700898 >>8700048 So they can use the OLED for multiple purposes besides emulation?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 21:43:46 2022 No.8700905 >>8700783 Thank you.

Anonymous Wed Mar 9 23:11:30 2022 No.8701250

>>8700601
This is true. My 4K TV is quite a bit brighter than my monitor, so CRT shaders work better with it. Crazy thing is, I don't currently have a GPU strong enough to output 4K at 60 Hz, so I'm currently outputting 1080p to it, and even with the TV's upscaling, shaders STILL look damn nice. I'd have to take a picture to demonstrate, however, and I doubt it would do the results justice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 10 08:53:19 2022 No.8702080 >>8700898 >they

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 10 09:15:31 2022 No.8702113 >>8702080 they/them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 10 09:43:38 2022 No.8702146 >>8681706 >>8681719 >>8681724 Simple but nice, shader name and settings?

Anonymous Thu Mar 10 12:11:46 2022 No.8702418
File: 1.47 MB, 1920x1080, Chrono Trigger (USA)-220309-182212.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>8696826
I like using the simple TV preset from this https://duimon.github.io/Gallery-Guides/gallery/ for everything NES/N64/SNES/PS1. It actually looks the exact same as the 29'' TOSHIBA from my childhood living room, so it's extra comfy for me. I also enable the tube diffuse option or whatever it's called to add that extra "crusty" feel to the screen. Then for handhelds I used borders like these >>8699656
Also thanks to whoever shilled that overlay pack here, personally I think most of them look a little too clean or too distracting even at low brightness, but there are cool ones like the TVs and the Genesis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 10 12:13:35 2022 No.8702421 File: 1.85 MB, 1920x1080, Chrono Trigger (USA)-220308-154726.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8702418 Also played with the PVM presets for a bit but that yellow LED at the top is too damn distracting

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 10 12:20:47 2022 No.8702443 >>8702146 same as >>8700783

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 10 18:58:57 2022 No.8703614 Bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 11 00:19:02 2022 No.8704260 File: 841 KB, 1190x790, T3.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 11 00:21:17 2022 No.8704261 >>8704260 Do Vagrant Story next.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 11 00:25:11 2022 No.8704265 >>8704261 Just finished Tenchu 1 but I'll add that one to the list.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 11 01:23:11 2022 No.8704336 File: 1.32 MB, 1667x1269, Untitled3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] still working on it, I'm trying to make red bleeds and come out more intense

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 11 01:34:42 2022 No.8704358 Are the MiSTer CRT shaders any good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 11 02:59:12 2022 No.8704485 File: 1.83 MB, 1440x1080, 55bc067eeb3e6f49a14eb0b9ed5085f4509dd799.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 11 09:49:35 2022 No.8705020 >>8704485 this looks awesome!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 11 22:47:45 2022 No.8706868 File: 531 KB, 1172x804, calibrating.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 04:09:27 2022 No.8707441 I do wonder how many people are trying to use shaders on screens that are poorly calibrated which in turn fucks with getting the shader setting correct. Or even worse using wide gamut screens for retro vidya/not clamping them to srgb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 05:37:01 2022 No.8707539 Is this the cringe thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 06:02:11 2022 No.8707572 >>8707539 >has been posted on /vr/ Rhetorical questions are not needed anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 06:20:15 2022 No.8707606 >>8707539 Yes. First we had CRT containment threads, now we have people who essentially want to emulate shifty CRTs

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 10:44:10 2022 No.8707993 >>8704485 Getting shaders to work nicely for 480i is tough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 10:53:38 2022 No.8708014 >>8704485 Shader? Can you upload it if it's a custom one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 12:06:00 2022 No.8708143 File: 1.81 MB, 1600x1440, 1632926482231.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8680000 quads of truff

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 12:52:21 2022 No.8708231 >>8705020 >>8707993 >>8708014 https://forums.libretro.com/t/please-show-off-what-crt-shaders-can-do/19193/4381

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 12:54:28 2022 No.8708237 >>8707441 Here's something else: I've heard CRT TVs typically only output in the 16-235 color range, or maybe the NTSC signals they receive do, I'm not sure. Should this be taken into account?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 14:14:39 2022 No.8708401 >>8707606 I'll keep saying that games with pre-rendered graphics need shaders to look okay, but it's not really necessary for 2D sprite games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 14:21:00 2022 No.8708410 >>8707606 just ask for the presets bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 14:56:16 2022 No.8708484 File: 1.79 MB, 1400x1050, 4688.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8692898 Based

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 23:05:19 2022 No.8709967 File: 412 KB, 2880x2160, Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter (Japan)-220312-221914.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] scary...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 23:26:59 2022 No.8710042 How do you change mask settings for shaders in Retroarch? Like Mask 3 or Mask 10. I can't find them or even ID what the default mask is.

Anonymous Sat Mar 12 23:35:51 2022 No.8710082

>>8710042
What shader are you trying to use? Like everything else, the mask settings are under Shader Parameters, but every shader calls them something different. For instance, for crt-guest-advanced, you'd find the section that says CRT Mask Options, and you'll see the parameter that says CRT Mask, along with the available masks. The default is Mask 0, a green-magenta PVM-style mask.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 23:51:18 2022 No.8710125 >>8710082 I found it, but it seems the highest numbered mask is 8. Is there not an 11?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 12 23:58:35 2022 No.8710148 >>8710125 You need to grab the latest version from the libretro forums. Guest takes a long time to push his changes to the main shader repo for whatever reason.

Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:01:53 2022 No.8710156

>>8710148
Is there anything more to that than unzipping the slang files and dropping them into the appropriate Retroarch folder to overwrite the old ones already in it? I had to revert to the older versions of it because the new ones I put in there could not be applied.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:07:17 2022 No.8710170 >>8710156 There shouldn't be. Just make sure everything goes exactly where it needs to go. Just drop all the contents of the archive (including the folder) into the shaders folder, and tell it to merge and replace all the files.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:09:43 2022 No.8710175 >>8680359 This is by far the closest to my actual memory of CRT play. Everything else just comes off as dots for people that have never actually played on a CRT.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:18:41 2022 No.8710197 >>8710170 Okay, got it. My mistake was only copying the slangs and not the folder paths, apparently. That said, the masks top off at 10 for some reason, but I think 9 actually works, so 11 seems unnecessary.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:20:32 2022 No.8710206 >>8710197 Which link did you download it from? https://forums.libretro.com/t/new-crt-shader-from-guest-crt-guest-advanced-updates/25444/2050 This contains the latest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:21:49 2022 No.8710210 >>8710206 That was the one, I downloaded it yesterday, noted how very recent it was at the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:23:25 2022 No.8710212 >>8710210 Ok, now, which preset are you trying out specifically? I don't THINK it ought to matter, since even the fastest preset has all the masks, but still.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:24:02 2022 No.8710214 >>8710212 Just guest-advanced, no modifiers like NTSC or speed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:27:45 2022 No.8710219 File: 59 KB, 1519x235, Guest masks (not in an Eyes Wide Shut way).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8710212 >>8710214 And here, I'm not messing with you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:33:46 2022 No.8710240 >>8710219 Well, I'm seeing on my end while the parameter description only claims to go up to 10, you can still go up to 11 and 12, so I guess he just forgot to update that bit of info.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:35:58 2022 No.8710248 >>8688512 sauce those settings king

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:37:17 2022 No.8710256 >>8710240 Heh, that'll do it. There we go. It does look nice, too, guess it's just between 9's lines and 11's dot pattern now. Much appreciated.

Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:52:43 2022 No.8710296

>>8710256
Good to hear, anon.

Mask 9 roughly emulates a 360 TVL Trinitron, so we're talking Sony sets between 20-27" or so, while Mask 11 (and 10 for that matter) emulate coarser masks (~270 TVL or so) seen in smaller sets, so around 14" sets and lower.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 16:45:59 2022 No.8712136 >>8682340 Why would you play this over the remake?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 16:52:34 2022 No.8712149 File: 148 KB, 302x242, 1605205943437.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8712136 >Remakes >ever

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 16:53:42 2022 No.8712153 >>8712136 Because he wants.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 18:34:01 2022 No.8712385 File: 1.32 MB, 1600x2408, samsho2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 20:19:46 2022 No.8712662 >>8712385 more like Samurai Smeardown

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:12:15 2022 No.8712968 >>8712385 These comparisons where the raw pixels look substantially better always take me out of it. I think these threads perpetuate delusions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:13:13 2022 No.8712971 >>8712662 heh

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:19:15 2022 No.8712990 File: 476 KB, 1046x1308, Texture Filtering Comparison.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8712968 He's using a filter under that shader. Shaders don't redraw shit like filters do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:20:23 2022 No.8712994 >>8712990 So that's why filters disappeared overnight when I wasn't looking.

Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:38:02 2022 No.8713050

>>8712990
>>8712994
Shaders are filters, too, only they're written in a shader-specific language and are run by the GPU. CPU-based filters were largely abandoned because they're much slower, their only advantage being that they can run on just about any architecture since they don't require a programmable shader pipeline.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:39:52 2022 No.8713059 >>8713050 >Shaders are filters, too Then why two different terms?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:42:17 2022 No.8713069 >>8700094 ironic

Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:46:33 2022 No.8713083

>>8713059
Shaders came into being long before emulators took advantage of them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shader

Before then, we had CPU-based filters, also known as scalers, since their primary purpose was to provide alternative methods of upscaling in emulators other than the usual nearest neighbor and bilinear interpolation. Once GPUs with programmable shader support became mainstream, however, some emulators began to support them. I believe one of the earliest examples was Pete's OpenGL2 plugin for ePSXe.

It wasn't really until bsnes and RetroArch came around, with their highly advanced shader implementations, that shaders really caught on for emulation, however.

Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:53:14 2022 No.8713103

>>8713083
Is bsnes still the definitive SNES emulator? It most likely won't be updated again since its creator faked a suicide for some reason (we know he didn't really do it because his known real name was absent from Japan's list of foreign nationals who died by suicide from the month it was alleged to have transpired).

Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:59:01 2022 No.8713124

>>8713103
It still sees updates from time to time, I believe. It's nearly perfect, and valuable from a preservation standpoint, but if you just want to play games, Snes9x is nearly just as good (last I checked, it only has issues with just a couple of games that bsnes does not). I personally use Snes9x over bsnes because the former is much faster and the extra performance can be used for latency-reduction measures like run-ahead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 11:39:46 2022 No.8714872 >>8679848 It does, NTSC is more pronounced than PAL.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 11:41:43 2022 No.8714879 >>8679848 Also forgot: arcade monitors had more pronounced as well as they were built for different resolutions etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 11:51:19 2022 No.8714908 >>8713124 This. Plus 9x renders at 1x for better scaling than starting at 2x like bsnes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 21:19:49 2022 No.8716172 File: 76 KB, 1440x1080, 1622251019705.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] saturn bomberman has a really weird ost

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 21:21:58 2022 No.8716174 File: 2.70 MB, 1440x1080, 1618839831261.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8716172

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 21:23:56 2022 No.8716179 File: 2.88 MB, 1440x1080, 1624797427120.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8716174

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 04:36:19 2022 No.8717045 File: 2.94 MB, 2880x2160, Legend of Zelda, The - Ocarina of Time (USA) (1.0)-220313-045807.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hmmm

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 11:35:48 2022 No.8717697 >>8717045 The lines aren't blending on bright colors

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 13:04:06 2022 No.8717978 >>8712662 >>8712968 blur looks better than having square edges everywhere. plus, LCD screens have some blurring in motion anyway.

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 13:11:12 2022 No.8717990

>>8717978
Also the shadows are blurred into the rest of the image to give a more natural look. instead of just being dark coloured squares randomly added to the scenery. Most glaring example is the rocks nearest the sea barely look shaded in the raw version

raw fans probably would have hated these graphics when they first came out because they were impressive then, for the same reason they would hate modern graphics despite it being the most obvious constant progress. Must also how real-life looks, blocky shit is escapism from the nuances of life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 15:58:23 2022 No.8718391 >>8717697 How would I fix that, on guest?

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 16:18:26 2022 No.8718435

>>8679869
Crt shaders tend to look like shitty jpegs of crts or a bunch of bloomy leds instead of what you would actually see on a crt. I think they can help to create a less harsh, pixelated and more accurate image but most of what gets posted in these threads are just way too overboard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 16:46:30 2022 No.8718504 File: 1.50 MB, 1388x970, Mask 11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8718435 I do agree, but they're free, after all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 16:49:16 2022 No.8718507 >>8718435 the presets are adjusted for the display of the person who is using it so they might never be something that looks good to you

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 17:49:32 2022 No.8718650 >>8718507 This. Unlike other shaders/filters, CRT shaders these days are so complex and have so many things going on that display specifications actually matter a lot for the end result.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 17:54:45 2022 No.8718661 >>8718507 >>8718650 Are there more shaders than Royale you aren't supposed to use for a display under 4k?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 17:56:28 2022 No.8718664 >>8718661 idk, but it's not just about the resolution.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 17:57:07 2022 No.8718669 >>8718664 What else is there? I don't like this

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 17:57:24 2022 No.8718670 >>8718661 https://forums.libretro.com/t/sony-megatron-colour-video-monitor/36109/608 This is currently the 4K shader par-excellence. It's currently the only one that takes advantage of HDR, too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 17:59:31 2022 No.8718678 >>8716174 So clean, Is that Royale?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 17:59:47 2022 No.8718681 >>8718670 Great, won't download that one then, good to know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:03:36 2022 No.8718703 >>8718681 Yeah, it's really not meant for 1080p SDR displays, even if it can technically be used on those. Give Guest-Advanced, Guest-DrVenom, or CRT-Easymode a try.

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:05:31 2022 No.8718706

>>8718669
Contrast, brightness, saturation, gamma, luminance, sharpness, black level and even color temperature filters.
Things that are usually adjusted on your monitor. You can increase the shader passes on some presets to add some of these parameters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:06:33 2022 No.8718710 >>8718678 yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:07:17 2022 No.8718715 >>8718703 I love Guest and Easymode so I'm glad I found the right ones. Advanced in particular is supposedly great for games with pre-rendered graphics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:08:17 2022 No.8718719 It's interesting how popular Royale is in this board, when the libretro forums seem to have more or less moved on from it and now mostly use Guest's shaders.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:09:18 2022 No.8718723 >>8718706 Don't forget subpixel layout. The masks used by CRT shaders are often heavily dependent on an RGB layout, and some people have BGR or something else, which can mess the image up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:09:40 2022 No.8718724 >>8718706 Maybe I should just get a CRT They can't be that expensive, right And surely whatever wizard widget that gets shit on your computer onto your CRT is also cheap

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:12:55 2022 No.8718731 >>8718719 I've yet to be convinced by Venom's Guest. Even at sub-4k Royale seems to have better blending.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:13:35 2022 No.8718734 >>8718724 probably depends on where you live it's not worth it for me desu

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>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 20:14:53 2022 No.8719006 >>8718972 Wouldn't have been cancelled if it came out on PSX

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 20:26:23 2022 No.8719024 >>8679748 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsS_VMzY10I

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 20:33:32 2022 No.8719037

>>8718731
Yeah, I only recommend it for people who want a fast shader with a good but not overwhelming amount of options. I much prefer Advanced, though, since GDV hasn't been updated in a while and all the cutting edge shit is done on the Advanced branch now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 21:17:55 2022 No.8719146 testing

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 21:51:36 2022 No.8719236 File: 1.90 MB, 1365x978, Dong 11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8719037 Advanced is probably my favorite now. Castlevania looked great with Dr. Venom, which got me into Guest initially.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 22:33:32 2022 No.8719365 >>8719236 Is this an LCD grid? It doesn't look like a CRT.

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 22:39:55 2022 No.8719378

>>8719365
I think he just removed the diffusion that's on by default and called it a day. Guest-Advanced can definitely look better than that, but it needs tweaking

But then again, I usually play with the mask at 100% strength, and everyone always gives me shit over it looking too dark, so what do I know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:04:44 2022 No.8719436 >>8712136 because the remake fucked the sound effects for no reason whatsoever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:05:45 2022 No.8719440 >>8682603 that's always gunna look bad without pgxp.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:15:34 2022 No.8719461 File: 1.72 MB, 1411x1080, Sonic The Hedgehog (USA, Europe)-220315-201454.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:17:19 2022 No.8719465 >>8719440 not him but there's nothing wrong with ps1 wobbliness zoomie

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:17:55 2022 No.8719469 >>8719465 I'm no zoomie and yes there is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:18:35 2022 No.8719471 >>8719365 >>8719378 I just turned the mask to 11.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:21:17 2022 No.8719482 File: 1.90 MB, 1347x977, Dong 9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8719365 >>8719378 I just turned the mask to 11. Is 9 better? Both were recommended to me, but I picked 11 for being brighter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:26:03 2022 No.8719497 File: 3.73 MB, 2880x2160, Final Fantasy VI T-Edition (T-Eng)-220315-232313.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Messing around with guest-advanced, since that's what everyone is saying...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:26:46 2022 No.8719498 lcd raw pixels with bilinear. anything else is a waste of time

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:30:32 2022 No.8719509 >>8719497 holy fucking diffusion batman

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:31:33 2022 No.8719513 >>8719509 Yeah I kinda don't know what I tweaked there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:37:57 2022 No.8719528 File: 3.53 MB, 2990x4480, Street Fighter EX2 Plus (USA)-220313-134817.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8719498 I dunno about that...

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