/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8665197]

ITT: dogshit controllers

[Anonymous No.8665202]

I'd take a dreamcast controller over an n64 controller any day

[Anonymous No.8665212]

I'm not sure why Sega decided to take the Saturn 3D controller and make it worse for the Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.8665215]

you're a dogshit controller

[Anonymous No.8665223]

>stick breaks easily
>terrible button
I've burnt through more of these shitsticks than any other, cheap ass Atari

[Anonymous No.8665224]

>>8665202
64 controller was more comfortable to hold and had a better dpad.

[Anonymous No.8665232]

>>8665197
fag

[Anonymous No.8665239]

unless you have tiny asian hands these things are unusable.

[Anonymous No.8665240]

>>8665239
lose weight fat cunt

[Anonymous No.8665247]

>>8665239
t.

[Anonymous No.8665249]

>>8665240
>>8665247
my hand on the left
your hand on the right

kek at the fucking manlets who never grew up

[Anonymous No.8665250]

>>8665249

[Anonymous No.8665268]

>>8665249
>>8665250
obese meat claws couldn't even hit the image upload button lel

[Anonymous No.8665276]

>>8665268
kek @ chang the manlet
the playstation controller is designed for kids. imagine it still being comfortable to you as an adult.

[Anonymous No.8665282]

>>8665276
you wouldnt say shit to me in real life pussy your talking to a navy seal

[Anonymous No.8665285]

>>8665239
how to spot a zoomer who started with playstation

[Anonymous No.8665287]

>>8665282
kek navy seals dont have the hands of a five year old boy.
my sister would slap your fake ass you fucking dwarf

[Anonymous No.8665294]

>>8665285
how to spot a midget with babby hands

[Anonymous No.8665298]

>>8665287
ok ok you win
have fun getting a barrett 50 cal throuhg your skull in front of your entire family in the next 3 weeks, courtesy of the us navy seals death squadron 7

[Anonymous No.8665304]

>>8665298
How many confirmed kills, bro?

[Anonymous No.8665312]

Basically everything that predated the Playstation controller. SNES was a big step in the right direction but has poor grip.

[Anonymous No.8665320]

Some people would say The Duke but I actually like it, so much that I use it over the smaller Xbox controller that I also have. But the main problem is that since it has extra face buttons instead of bumpers, a lot of games' control schemes get fucked up. For example, in Tony Hawk 3, you gotta use the black/white buttons to revert. If you use the triggers it can result in the camera moving which is a fucktarded design choice since no one ever moves the fucking camera in Tony Hawk. Another example is in SSX 3, X is mapped to both boost and one of the grabs, so you can eat shit a lot if you accidentally keep holding X even after a small jump.

[Anonymous No.8665351]

>>8665223
This is the only correct answer. The kiddos ITT would know that if they spent more time with their grandparents.

[Anonymous No.8665361]

controller for fags

[Anonymous No.8665376]

>>8665223
>>8665351
you just don't know.

[Anonymous No.8665379]

I've never understood how someone could think a controller is unusable until I bought a switch and tried touching its joycon

[Anonymous No.8665387]

>>8665224
>better dpad
Which was almost never used.
Meanwhile the analog stick was complete garbage.

[Anonymous No.8665391]

>>8665197
It's not good, but it's not dogshit either.

[Anonymous No.8665410]

>>8665312
PS1 nearly had an identical flat pad design. I remember seeing the one on the lower right and getting really hyped about having 6 buttons on the face cause I liked to play my friends Mega Drive version of Street Fighter 2 with the pad on my knee doing a kind of arcade stick like claw. Theres a story that the executives wanted it as close to a SNES pad as possible, which is why the top left looks real SNES like, they added the prongs / grips during development and one or more of them raged about how they wanted it SNES like with no grips which is how it got to the lower right style. When the OG PS1 pad was prototyped they finally admitted it worked and helped the console stand out as not just another CD based 2d console.

[Anonymous No.8665414]

>>8665410
The circle on the bottom and X on the right is pretty interesting. If they went with that, they could have standardized O being confirm and X being cancel between Japanese and western games. I think switching them was definitely the wrong decision.

[Anonymous No.8665415]

>>8665320
Wait, the Duke just has the black and white buttons above the Y and B buttons, slim only moved them to the same line as the right 3d stick... how does that ruin your games control schemes?

[Anonymous No.8665417]

>>8665414
Good catch, I didn't even notice that difference.

[Anonymous No.8665418]

>>8665415
I mean the Xbox controller in general compared to the more standard PS2 controller. Read the examples I gave.

[Anonymous No.8665420]

>>8665320
honestly the only thing I don't like about the douk is the squint layout of the face buttons. It just feels fucking weird. The think would be perfect if the face buttons were layout out straighter like on a 6 button genesis controller.

[Anonymous No.8665465]

>>8665361
Is Wii retro? It's basically a GameCube

[Anonymous No.8665524]

>>8665239
Stop trying to death grip it like an Xbox controller. Like a burger, it's held in your fingers not your palms.

[Anonymous No.8665629]

[Anonymous No.8665632]

>>8665376
>i never used either
>let alone long enough for one to break

[Anonymous No.8665721]

>>8665239
My hands are big enough to crumple your face like a piece of paper and the dualshock is the best controller ever made. You're just a hamplanet butterball parked bus faggot.

[Anonymous No.8665724]

>>8665197
It ain't perfect, but I love the Dreamcast controller.

Respectfully, go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.8665753]

>>8665212
Money issues and betting everything on that stupid VMU gimmick.
The DC controller is the only official controller I've used that felt as cheap as the third-party ones if not even more.

[Anonymous No.8665760]

>>8665410
All better options than what we ended up with, specially dpad wise.

[Anonymous No.8665797]

>>8665215
You're a savage Anon. This isn't a gore thread.

[Anonymous No.8665948]

>>8665304
5, only because I had to confirm them. I don’t confirm my other kills, keep it off the record.

[Anonymous No.8665958]

>>8665387
Also, the d-pad on the N64 controller wasn't particularly good.
I consider it a step backward from the d-pad on the SNES controller.

[Anonymous No.8665963]

This unofficial gamecube controller is one of the most unusual things I've ever used.
>Y is actually A
>X is actually B
>A is actually X
>B is actually Y
>L1 and R1 do nothing
>L3 and R3 exist but also do nothing
>Select and start both do the same thing
>Every dpad button is an individual button, Switch style

[Anonymous No.8665967]

>>8665361
Not retro, retard

[Anonymous No.8666360]

>>8665239
size is not the problem, but that d-pad is horrible

[Anonymous No.8666370]

>late 90's
>no second stick
>only four face buttons
>cord on the bottom of the controller, so that it puts strain on the rubber and can cause it to split over time
Genuinely, what were they thinking?

[Anonymous No.8666391]

>>8665239
You know, I've never actually gotten a good feel for having two rows of shoulder buttons, and I kind of wish it never became standard. Whenever a game actually expects you to use all four at regular intervals, it feels so awkward.

[Anonymous No.8666395]

>>8665202
You a faggot are

[Anonymous No.8666641]

>>8666391
I sort of agree, mainly because almost no controllers are actually designed for you to ergonomically rest fingers on all four shoulder buttons at once. The WiiU gamepad is literally the only controller I've ever used where it just feels natural to have a finger on all four shoulder buttons at the same time.

[Anonymous No.8666672]

[Anonymous No.8666687]

>>8665414
O wasn't cancel in PS1 games, triangle was. everything switched to B/O cancel being universal after the 360

[Anonymous No.8666715]

>>8666641
The Xbone and Xbox Series controllers are almost there. The bumpers are appropriately named since they're comfortable to bump with your knuckle while keeping your finger on the trigger.

[Anonymous No.8667257]

>>8665197
DC controller wasn't that bad, my main issue with it is the joystick being plastic and not having a second joystick, other than that it felt rather comfortable when holding it. Maybe it could have benefited from a better d-pad too.

[Anonymous No.8667261]

>>8666672
As someone with large hands, I loved the duke.

[Anonymous No.8667306]

>>8666672
See my post >>8665320
The controller itself is very comfortable but the way certain multiplatform games used it was questionable

[Anonymous No.8667339]

>>8665387
AKI wrestling games used dpad and are some of if not the best games on the system. You had to buy an arcade stick for dreamcast just to play dpad games comfortably.

[Anonymous No.8667343]

>>8665958
>wasn't particularly good
It wasn't bad. When I get home I'll grab both and see if this is even true.

[Anonymous No.8667347]

>>8667261
Dpad fucking sucked and those black and white buttons weren't easy to reach. Black and white buttons were even worse on the s model controller. I don't have baby hands either but thought it was still too massive.

[Anonymous No.8667546]

>>8667257
>not having a 2nd joystick
Why would this matter? Would it have improved Crazy Taxi, Soul Calibur, Code Veronica? It wasn't even needed for Quake 3 which played just fine on a stock pad.

[Anonymous No.8667565]

>>8665197
It was near perfect. Faggot

[Anonymous No.8667583]

>>8667565
the cord being on the bottom alone lowers it to F tier

[Anonymous No.8667585]

>>8667583
That is the only thing keeping it from being perfect

[Anonymous No.8667596]

>>8665212
Because they had a hateboner for Nintendo and wanted to be them very badly. They got a way around the Nintendo patent of cross-shaped d-pads, so they changed their perfect d-pad into that thing on the Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.8667603]

>>8665247
>>8665250

[Anonymous No.8667664]

>>8665197

[Anonymous No.8667721]

>>8667664
The meme that this controller is good definitely comes from people trying to raise the worth to make money on them

[Anonymous No.8667842]

>>8665197
>pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.8667845]

>>8665215
you're a towel

[Anonymous No.8667858]

[Anonymous No.8667861]

>>8666395
you never owned a dreamcast

[Anonymous No.8667869]

>>8666672
I have tiny hands, and I loved this controller

[Anonymous No.8667870]

Even sega fans can agree that the Dreamcast controller was a huge failure. It lost everything that made sega controllers the best of the batch and even though the VMU is cool it absolutely does not make up for the shortcomings of the controller

[Anonymous No.8667874]

>>8667870
this is not true

[Anonymous No.8667881]

>>8667874
Yeah I just loved the shitty d-pad and reduced number of face buttons

[Anonymous No.8667890]

>>8667874
Neh I was a big sega fan and liked how solid the controller felt, but the triggers really screwed up my pointer finger. It was alright, but Dual Shock even 1 was ebtter.

[Anonymous No.8667901]

>>8667881
it's actually very comfortable you should try it before gaslighting the dreamcast

[Anonymous No.8667908]

>>8667901
Being forced to use the triggers in fighting games simply because the controller does not have an adequate amount of face buttons is cancer.

[Anonymous No.8667912]

>>8665958
I read that it was too stiff and not good for diagonals let alone hadokens.

[Anonymous No.8667916]

>>8667901
It's not great but I still love my DC, just beat Blue Stinger the other day

[Anonymous No.8667917]

>>8667721
Typical onion big mouthed people.

[Anonymous No.8668475]

>>8667664
Yet another newbaby embarrasses itself

[Anonymous No.8668494]

says the N64 baby with his mutant hands.

[Anonymous No.8668507]

>>8667908
That's not even its biggest issue. Dpad will wreck your thumb if you're constantly churning out 360 motions or downward charging and the pad itself is too narrow and starts to become uncomfortable after 10 mins of play.

[Anonymous No.8668515]

>>8667916
>Blue Stinger
is that game good?

[Anonymous No.8668529]

>>8665197
My only problem is the cord coming out of the bottom of the controller

[Anonymous No.8668532]

>>8668515
good isn't a term I'd use, but it was fun

[Anonymous No.8668569]

This and not for the reason youd think.

The triple handle design is actually fine as it was meant to only use 2 handles at once depending on the type of game, but the real shit kicker is that the stick is plastic rubbing against plastic and destroys itself in a matter of months of consistent use.

When the controller is brand new the stick isnt supposed to move at all when not pressed, yet I bet you could not find a single used N64 controller where the stick doesnt wobble off center all over the place. You can actually feel the components grinding when you press the stick.

[Anonymous No.8668609]

>>8668569
>but the real shit kicker is that the stick is plastic rubbing against plastic and destroys itself in a matter of months of consistent use.
But it's a Catch-22 because the unique physical mechanics of the joystick created a resistance-to-input curve that really made all ranges of the input, not just "all the way in one angle", feel tactile. It's why idiots constantly spout out shit about how poorly N64 games aged while using Wii Pro controllers to try to play them. The games were just designed for a kind of controller that doesn't exist anymore. (And, granted, for good reason because as you mentioned they literally disintegrate with use).

[Anonymous No.8668620]

>>8665967
lol, keep saying it and it will be added even faster.

[Anonymous No.8668624]

>>8665197
OPs need to stop starting bred with unrelated pictures. Embarrassing. Do better. Delete thread an try again, toddler.

[Anonymous No.8668635]

>>8668609
You can completely fix the issue by greasing the stick internals with silicone grease or replacing the parts with metal. It has nothing to do with the design of the stick itself, Nintendo just cheaped out on the materials.

[Anonymous No.8668658]

>>8668635
Yeah, but, by greasing the ball joint, you're dramatically reducing the friction which is the resistance I'm talking about. You're just turning it into a normal joypad at that point. I'm struggling to articulate here, but you know how for a lot of sports athletes chalk-up to increase the friction to give something to deteriorate against? It's like that but without the ability to replenish the chalk. Nintendo probably play-tested it until it "felt good" and didn't stress test it to see how long it lasted.

[Anonymous No.8668741]

>>8665197
>Flimsy, slippery, cheap-feeling analog stick
>Few buttons made camera control ass, especially in FPS games
>Inferior D-pad compared to Saturn

>>8665223
>Flimsy electronics/mechanical components (not a single official one of these I own is without issues)

>>8665239
Meds.

>>8665361
>Waggle forced into every game
>Awkward sideways config for games they have no fucking business in like Super Paper Mario and Metroid Other M
>Camera control often compromised by lack of second analog stick even with nicely-implemented IR pointer controls

>>8665376
>Retarded design that makes hand cramp in seconds or prevents effective use of the joystick to go diagonally, etc.

>>8665629
>Flimsy, overdesigned dogshit with the same awful form factor as the 7800 controller along with the stupid fucking numeric pad gimmick

>>8665963
That looks absolutely wretched, I feel bad for the dumb fucks that were fooled into buying it.

>>8666672
Actually underrated controller, only "large" controller that feels comfortable to use and has good design imo.

>>8667664
No reason to use this controller for non-racing games.

>>8667858
>Flimsy fucking analog stick that decays over time
>three-handled design was not a great idea, though it is amusing to see faggot zoomers embarass themselves when trying to hold one for the first time

>pic-related
My contribution to the thread. You have no idea how bad this thing sucks until you actually use one, it's huge and the plastic on the side and back is actually kind of sharp to the touch relative to other controllers, and it will wear hard on your palms over time, and the D-pad is the stiffest motherfucker I've ever felt on a controller. Think the Xbox Duke except it fucking sucks because the buttons are far more spread-out and it cramps your finger and thumb joints immediately.

[Anonymous No.8668817]

>>8666672
Maybe the most Comfortable but they should have spaced the buttons out more

[Anonymous No.8668826]

>>8667858
this is the worst controller ever made, only rivaled by the wii dildo

[Anonymous No.8668848]

>>8667546
>Why would this matter?
Being able to control the camera in 3d games, not having weird control schemes in fps games where you use the joystick for the camera and buttons for movement (or God forbid the opposite).

[Anonymous No.8668854]

>>8667546
>It wasn't even needed for Quake 3 which played just fine on a stock pad.
nah

[Anonymous No.8668864]

>>8665202
you're insane

[Anonymous No.8668920]

>>8665224
They both had shit dpads. N64’s is slightly better.
I love both controllers though.

[Anonymous No.8668941]

>>8666672
worst D-Pad ever

[Anonymous No.8668945]

>>8668941
No the 360 dpad is definitely a lot worse
The Duke's dpad is weird and ill-suited to games with heavy precise dpad use but you can at least consistently get the direction you're pressing and it has a nicer feel than the 360's mushy shit dpad

[Anonymous No.8669041]

>>8668945
nah

[Anonymous No.8669056]

>>8665410
"+" and "-" buttons.
Now that would have been something.

[Anonymous No.8669062]

>>8665224
>64 controller was more comfortable to hold
not even remotely

[Anonymous No.8669067]

>>8665197
Definitely the PS2 piece of shit controller.
Damn thing has an expiration date. The conductor for the pressure sensitive buttons (all of them except the very center ones and the joysticks) eventually just will stop conducting. This happens for each individual button so you would have to fix each connection with the correct resistance or replace the membrane altogether for a chink replacement that will take months to arrive and may or may not work. Apart from that, contrary to every other controller I have dealt with, the fucking membrane ribbon connector is SOLDERED into the circuit board. So you have to go through some work and always a non-zero chance for fuckups before you can even test if the repair worked or not. And even the replacement membranes will kill themselves eventually.

[Anonymous No.8669068]

>>8665197

I don't see how the N64 controller is the worst controller ever, when the Dreamcast controller exists.

[Anonymous No.8669086]

>>8669041
I was thoroughly impressed how the d-pad is still awful on these.

>>8669067
Never had my chink contact sheets not work, you can even use 18-pin connectors on 19-pin controllers just don't solder to the last ground pin on the right. Use a lower heat around 280c and flood the pads until you can free the original connector. The hosiden pads with the soldered contact sheet are great when working and easy to repair if you're mildly competent with an iron

[Anonymous No.8669103]

DC controller is a mistake, the ergonomics were all wrong, the handles/grip were inwards making your wrists uncomfortable, the wire came from the bottom and then you had a little groove at the top of the VMU cradle where you put the wire because even SEGA realized how much of a retarded idea that was. The buttons have these little dots and sharp corners on the letters, the dpad is loose and unprecise, the thumbstick is loose and slippery, the triggers are cheap feeling, too few inputs for such a large piece of plastic shell. VMU was too heavy and large yet it barely saved more than an handful of games before it got full. The DC would be saved it used Sega Saturn controllers, they could have made new controllers for the DC but it should also be compatible with the Saturn peripherals.

[Anonymous No.8669112]

>>8665250
See the delicate woman hand on the right? It's fit for the Sony Dualshock.

See the rough man hand on the left? It's also fit for the Sony Dualshock.

See the pig hands of some slobs here? They're fit for euthanasia.

[Anonymous No.8669242]

>>8669068
Dreamcast controller wins just by not having a self destructing analog stick.

[Anonymous No.8670378]

>>8669103
I think the shape is based though and I don't blame Microsoft for taking the general shape and improving upon it. Sega largely just made two prototypes of the Xbox controllers for them for free is all. You are still right on your points though.

[Anonymous No.8670486]

>>8669067
seriously this, I want to buy some backup ps2 pads but all the third party ones look terrible and if I buy a sony one second hand I just know it's going to be fucked lol

[Anonymous No.8670492]

>>8668569
The actual reason the N64 controller is retarded is because 90% of games didn't use the D-pad anyway so it's a waste of space

[Anonymous No.8670652]

>>8665361
Flitered. Wiimote was kino genius.

Also not retro.

[Anonymous No.8670676]

>>8669068
>implying the Dreamcast controller is worse than the N64 controller
You're insane

[Anonymous No.8670918]

>>8669103
You missed the part where where dpad stuck out and would cut into your thumb if you were constantly sliding it diagonally left.

[Anonymous No.8670925]

>>8665239
my hands are admittedly on the small side but I don't have much of an issue with larger controllers unless it's as huge as the original xbox one.
needles to say the DS3 is my favorite controller of all time.

[Anonymous No.8671043]

>>8669086
>still awful on these
no

[Anonymous No.8671174]

>>8668741
>Awkward sideways config for games they have no fucking business in like Super Paper Mario and Metroid Other M
It's good for one game, Punch-Out. It almost feels like the controller was made purely for it

[Anonymous No.8671626]

I am no fan of N64 controller but the fucking worst I have is DS3. It feels so fucking cheap. It like the go back with quality with each iteration of them DS1 > DS2 > shit > DS3. DS4 is alright.
For DC controller, its comfy only thing that is really bad is dpad, you can literally cut your fingers with it. Analog stick works good but its fucking slippy, should have made them concave. I'm not the biggest fan of convex sticks in general, though GC is one of my fav

[Anonymous No.8671908]

Ant controller with symmetrical analog sticks. The only people who thing thats a good thing are FPS shitters

[Anonymous No.8673160]

>>8665197
Behold! Madkatz for the new generation!

[Anonymous No.8673163]

>>8673160

[Anonymous No.8673517]

>>8665250
l-lewd

[Anonymous No.8674114]

>>8673160
>>8673163
There is no way you’ve used 8bitdo if you think it’s remotely as dogshit madkatz was

[Anonymous No.8674205]

>>8674114
This
8shitdo is so much worse than dog shit that even implying it's remotely close to being that good is an affront to God.

[Anonymous No.8674267]

>>8674114
Madcatz te fightstick is better than any 8bit do product.

[Anonymous No.8674271]

>>8674205
>>8674267
typical hipster behaviour

[Anonymous No.8674283]

>>8674271
Yes. Defending your le ebik chinkshit garbage is typical hipster behavior.

[Anonymous No.8674416]

>>8671174
Next Level Games did a good job with that one, kind of sad we didn't get another one on Wii U or Switch.

[Anonymous No.8674892]

>>8665212
>>8665223
>>8665629
>>8666672
>>8667664
>>8668741
Shit

[Anonymous No.8674896]

>>8665197
>ITT: Dogshit opinions

[Anonymous No.8674910]

>>8665276
Video games are for children anon.

[Anonymous No.8674938]

>>8670652
The split controller design, allowing for what was essentially mouse style controls on a console was a good design conept. The problem with the Wiimote is lack of inputs. It needed at least a second stick, ideally like one to two more face buttons. The D-pad maybe should have been at the bottom of the controller, like this.

[Anonymous No.8675000]

Alternately you can just take a regular controller, split it in half, add the motion stuff, and have that be your controller. The actual TV remote design is completely unnecessary.

[Anonymous No.8675043]

>>8674938
Maybe this turtle can knock the stupid out of you.

[Anonymous No.8675065]

>>8675043
Explain how I'm wrong then. Wii games were frequently held back by the lack of inputs, leading to things like games not having proper camera controls, or having to substitute button presses for motions that barely worked.

[Anonymous No.8675395]

>>8675043
I like Michaelangelo, but he's too damn slow. Not all beat'em ups are like this, but Turtles in Time really favors speed, so you can dodge and favorably reposition yourself with much more ease if you have a speedy character. In the end, I fare better with Raphael, even though he has the endurance of a little girl. You have no room to fuck up, however.

[Anonymous No.8675406]

>>8675000
>The actual TV remote design is completely unnecessary
That was the only way you were gonna get your non-gaming mom and dad to try it, hence why it sold 100 million units.
Acting like the Wii was a bad idea is some hardcore gaymer revisionist history

[Anonymous No.8675480]

>>8675406
It was bad from actual practical design stand point, if you wanted to play games more complex than tennis. It was good as a marketing gimmick, I guess. Though even then I think Nintendo over estimated how dumb your average person is. Seems the Switch does just fine, and it's controller has a normal number of buttons and isn't even shaped like a TV remote. Everyone's simple minded boomer aunt seemed to pick up smart phones fast enough, when that became a thing.

[Anonymous No.8675485]

>>8675480
Switch has high sales numbers because it's both a console and a handheld. Nintendo sold A LOT more Wii's and DS's combined than it is just selling switches right now.

[Anonymous No.8675493]

>>8668620
>>8665361
>>8674938
Not retro, dumb zoomer.

[Anonymous No.8675498]

>>8675485
I think Nintendo's weird insistence that casual gamers are scared by large numbers of buttons around that time was completely unfounded. The PS2 is like the most popular "casual console" ever. it had more buttons than the Gamecube or the Wii.
And you know what else has a lot of buttons? A TV remote.
>>8675493
Don't be rude.

[Anonymous No.8675505]

>>8665967
16 years whinner, its been 16 years

[Anonymous No.8675510]

>>8675498
>a TV remote
However remember there's a bad way of doing controllers like the Jaguar or Intellivision. Those things were hideous.

[Anonymous No.8675538]

>>8675510
That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting they should have put a couple more buttons and an analogue stick on it, so it wouldn't gimp games.

[Anonymous No.8675558]

>>8675538
alternately, GC kidney buttons, and a small nub of a stick is a pretty good compromise.

[Anonymous No.8675601]

>>8674271
Madcatz te sticks are for hipsters?

[Anonymous No.8675612]

>>8675601
>Popular = shit
This is the hipster mantra
Not sure how you came to your conclusion

[Anonymous No.8675671]

>>8668741
By now I'm convinced the main reason Atari died out was their sheer disregard for ergonomics and dogshit controller design.

[Anonymous No.8675842]

>>8665379
Using split joycons is not bad - but trying to hold the switch as a handheld near impossible

[Anonymous No.8677273]

>>8675065
>Explain how I'm wrong then.
Why would I do that? It's much more fun to subtly mock your stupidity and watch you sperg out.

[Anonymous No.8677281]

>>8675842
It’s not /vr/ discussion but look into the satisfye grip
Legitimately makes the console comfortable to hold and fixes thumb placement of the awkward to reach buttons

[Anonymous No.8677581]

>>8669067
Fucking this. PS2 controllers just fucking die out of nowhere. And then when you want a replacement, guess what? All of the original controllers have vanished and are probably dead as well. Making your only choice to buy a chink third party that barely even works. Specially those shitass wireless ones, they always break something.

[Anonymous No.8678318]

>>8677273
Go play Okami on Wii and get back to me.

[Anonymous No.8678496]

>>8678318
I'm sorry your parent's didn't love you enough to buy you more than a cheap bing bing wahoo console with and no accessories. I don't condone spoiling children , but you've clearly been traumatized for like by growing up in such a poor unloving household.a

[Anonymous No.8678542]

>>8678318
Go play a good game and then get back to me

[Anonymous No.8679565]

>>8665361
the 7th gen will never be retro to me
save for MAYBE the DS but even that's stretching it.

[Anonymous No.8679710]

>>8678496
I was 16 when the Wii came out, and it was one of several consoles I owned.
>>8678542
Like Mario Galaxy with it's shit camera controls, or Zelda with it's shit camera controls, or Metroid Prime 3 with it's clear lack of buttons simplifying the entire game?

[Anonymous No.8679713]

>>8667664
>>8667721
Fuck you, I recently got it for playing Ridge Racer and it is so good.

[Anonymous No.8679754]

[Anonymous No.8679760]

[Anonymous No.8679894]

>>8679710
No one asked how old you were. And you didn't own any consoles when you were 16. Clearly the mental trauma you suffered growing up a poor unloved child is worse than I thought.

[Anonymous No.8679917]

>>8679894
I don't know why you're so upset with the reality that the Wiimote needed more inputs. Clearly Nintendo agrees with me, since they never repeated the mistake.

[Anonymous No.8679965]

>>8674416
On the plus side, the game went out with one of its best entries. I don't know anyone that has something bad to say about Punch-Out Wii

[Anonymous No.8680116]

>>8679917
The only one upset here is you. I'm just laughing at tard who's a mental and emotional wreck because his parents only ever bought him a basic Wii and a few games.

[Anonymous No.8680662]

>>8680116
This feels like projection.

[Anonymous No.8681771]

>>8680662
This feels like projection.

[Anonymous No.8682031]

>>8680662
>>8681771
The plot thickens.