/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8655657]

Darkstalkers will always be the best /vr/ fighting game, mechanically and visually.

[Anonymous No.8655658]

Karate Champ website

[Anonymous No.8655663]

It's my favorite too. Has any other fighting game copied the way rounds work in Vampire Savior? I'd be surprised if no one has but I just don't know any games that also work like that.

[Anonymous No.8655665]

>>8655663
Wasn't Killer Instinct the same?

[Anonymous No.8655674]

dial8

[Anonymous No.8655678]

>>8655665
Huh, I had no clue. Never played those games

[Anonymous No.8655705]

>>8655674

[Anonymous No.8655776]

>>8655657
>mechanically
I love the combo system, but some Street Fighter games were snappier.
>visually
In terms of art style? Absolutely. I'd say this game has the greatest art style of all fighting games in history. It was cartoony, fantastic and colorful without being unreadable or hard to keep track of. Only Skullgirls came close.
Technically? You can't argue with the power of CPS3, 3rd Strike wins. We were truly robbed of CPS3 Darkstalkers, I'm sure it would've happened if SF3 didn't fail as hard as it did.

[Anonymous No.8655813]

>>8655657
3rd Strike, Capcom vs SNK 2, Marvel vs Capcom 2 and KOF 99 are timeless.

[Anonymous No.8656080]

>>8655813
>Marvel Vs Capcom 2, the simplified Marvel Vs Capcom 1
Get your head checked

[Anonymous No.8656120]

>>8655776
Skullgirls looks like a flash game and artstyle only appeals to trannies zoomies with twatter accounts

[Anonymous No.8656228]

>>8656120
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.8656263]

>>8656080
Log off 4chan

[Anonymous No.8656426]

morrigan is so fucking hot i literally want her to fuck me to death i need her demonic pussy juice in my mouth NOW

[Anonymous No.8656449]

KoF is the best fighting game mechanically which is evident by the fact that it has basically remained the same core game since 1996 with some juggling around of system/meter mechanics per game. Even smash bros copied it.

[Anonymous No.8656456]

>>8656426
pussy is disgusting

[Anonymous No.8656460]

>>8656456
You are gay, and that's okay.

[Anonymous No.8656465]

>>8656460
I'm bi, and I admit I would fuck Lilith's boypussy any day before Morrigan's slimy clubhouse sandwich.

[Anonymous No.8656471]

>>8656465
Oh, it's the futa Lilith poster. Lilith also has a pussy man. I mean, beyond all of the official art and her sprites, consider her namesake

[Anonymous No.8656479]

>>8655813
Yep.

>>8656465
Gay*

[Anonymous No.8656484]

>>8656479
I'm not gay, I would just only fuck a woman if they had a dick. Lol

[Anonymous No.8656490]

>>8656426
>>8656456
>>8656465
Lets not forget about everyone's first furry jackoff experience. For me it's Felicia.

[Anonymous No.8656545]

>>8656490
not furry, you have to have a muzzled face to be furry.

if a character can be accurately cosplayed without a fursuit, its not furry.

[Anonymous No.8656567]

>>8656545
Thanks.....I was just looking for some agreement that fucking a cat woman would be as much fun as a slutty vampire or ladyboy.

[Anonymous No.8656664]

I never tried this and I'm old and not good at fighters is there even a point

[Anonymous No.8657378]

Fightcade 2 Download:
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Fightcade 2 Automatic Rom Downloader (Put files in the "emulator" folder and then just join a game's lobby to have it download it):
https://lofi.netlify.app/post/fc2-json-pack-auto-download-roms-from-fightcade-2/

Resource For Learning Vampire Savior:
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Vampire_Savior

>>8656664
I don't see why not, just pick it up and try to learn things one at a time.

[Anonymous No.8658475]

>>8655657
What is the evolutionary purpose of headwings

>>8656490
What does it look like where her normal human ears would be

[Anonymous No.8658526]

>>8658475
Those head wings are not actually a physical part of her. Morrigan fights by commanding various shape shifting bats, when not active they just appear as wings on her head and back.

[Anonymous No.8658592]

>>8655813
3rd Strike blows compared to ST. How could you not even mention St or Hyper Fighting?

[Anonymous No.8658618]

>>8655657
>you have to piano to push block
no thanks

>8658592
based

[Anonymous No.8658638]

>>8655705
Seeth

[Anonymous No.8658651]

>>8655657
>Darkstalkers will always be the best /vr/ fighting game, mechanically
No

[Anonymous No.8658658]

>>8658651
This is my third favorite Capcom fighting game behind Third Strike and Vampire Savior. I really wish I liked Fighting EX Layer more

[Anonymous No.8658668]

>>8658658
FEXL AD on Switch plays like EX2. It's a little less refined since it's just Mihara working on it, but if Gougi wasn't your thing maybe you'll like it.

[Anonymous No.8658673]

>>8658668
You hit the nail on the head; that was my entire problem with the game. I would have bought it if I hadn't already bought the PS4 and PC versions before it was ever announced. I'll keep an eye out for a sale sometime

[Anonymous No.8658682]

>>8658651
>>8657378
Seem missing N64 port

[Anonymous No.8658736]

>>8658673
AD is usually $25, but there might be a sale when it gets an update. Right now Mihara's doing some netcode adjustments to finally get us proper rollback. Also it's a Discord fighter. You need to ping, but the guys there aren't faggots like most servers. They almost exclusively talk about EX and FEXL.

[Anonymous No.8658787]

>>8655657
SOMEbody has never played Urban Champion, looks like

[Anonymous No.8658803]

>>8658736
Damn, that doesn't sound half bad. I didn't realize it was that cheap to begin with. Thanks man.

[Anonymous No.8658830]

>>8655678
Honestly give them a try. The only good western fighting games.

[Anonymous No.8658843]

>>8658618
You don't, pianoing is just the most common method. The difficulty of pushblock is exaggerated by people who don't play, just KoF in general.

[Anonymous No.8658889]

>>8658830
I will; that was enough to sell me. I tried a little bit of the newest one for like half an hour a couple years ago but only fooled around in training mode. I'll have to sneak one of the games into the rotation next time I'm playing fighting games with my friends.

[Anonymous No.8658892]

>>8658889
I never played the new one, but KI 1 and 2 are great.
And don't hesitate to play the SNES version of KI1, it might look worse than arcade but it has gameplay improvements (plus practice and tournament modes)

[Anonymous No.8660801]

>>8658592
>ST
>Good (especially when compared to 3rd strike)
Imagine thinking this

[Anonymous No.8660823]

>>8656456
damn, i guess you are what you eat

[Anonymous No.8661137]

>>8655657
VSav is cool, too bad the FC room is almost always below 100 players.
>>8655813
>Capcom vs SNK 2
I can't get into it, it feels so slow compared to the original games.
>KOF 99
I assume you've meant 98? They thought it was cool to rename it "99" for the Dreamcast release.

[Anonymous No.8662405]

>>8655657
Why did Capcom give up on this series again

[Anonymous No.8662881]

>>8655657
>mechanically
everybody hates the random chance pushblock input
and i hate the healthbars draining away from the center but i guess that’s cool for the weird little flame ui

[Anonymous No.8662889]

>>8662405
it bombed back then
rereleased ‘Darkstalkers Ressurrection’ and that bombed and they blamed fans
it’s just a cult classic that attracts a lot of art more than actual players, and capcom should just leave the IP alone because nobody wants Darkstalkers Jive Edition

[Anonymous No.8663630]

>>8655657
>Visually
Yes, absolutely.

[Anonymous No.8663649]

>>8658651
Unexpectedly good taste

[Anonymous No.8663698]

>>8658651
I Remember Ex Plus Alpha, Those endings in the PSOne, especially Evil Ryu, where he's like taking the biggest shit of all-time.
Good game btw.

[Anonymous No.8664036]

>>8655657
Darkstalkers is so good, it's my favorite fighting game franchise even though it stayed dormant since the early 2000s. It managed to take the basics of Street Fighter and expand them in a cool way without sacrificing readability. It was the first "anime" fighting game, but games inspired by it, like Guilty Gear or Blazblue, never managed to achieve what Darkstalkers achieved. Also, character design is leagues ahead of modern overdesigned shit.

[Anonymous No.8664068]

>>8655776
>CPS3 Darkstalkers
Why must you make me imagine something that would have been so beautiful

>>8656664
Most combos dont go beyond 3-6 hits and nearly all use a universal chain system that is easy to understand, the game is intense but not for the reasons most fighters are. It’s surprisingly a very easy game to get into, though there are a small handful of especially tough to use characters.

The vsav discord is extremely welcoming and eager to teach new players.

>>8662889
The arcade machines and resurrection actually did well from what I know. They just didnt do gangbusters and there was the jap only vsav2 which is what actually killed the series, in addition to it just not being big enough for modern capcom to want to do a new one when sf money is more reliable.

[Anonymous No.8664142]

>>8662881
>everybody hates the random chance pushblock input
Yeah, and it's stupid. Vsav pushblock is something everyone hates because they watch stupid shit like that leon massey video and missunderstand it. If people just, I don't know, actually looked into tbe game past a surface level they wouldcsee it's fine andpeople who have playeds for decafes have never minded it.

[Anonymous No.8664254]

>>8655657
lol

[Anonymous No.8664278]

>>8664142
>the scant few who still play it after decades don’t mind this annoying and rather dumb mechanic
imagine there being a handful more who would still be playing if the rng was eliminated, anon

[Anonymous No.8664441]

>>8655657
MOMMY!

[Anonymous No.8664586]

>>8664278
Sorry you got filtered by it anon, maybe you should actually try learning it sometime.

[Anonymous No.8664623]

>>8662889
>it bombed back then
The fuck are you talking about? It was always high on the arcade income charts.

[Anonymous No.8664639]

>>8662889
Except that's factually untrue, and it's why the Capcom Test is bullshit. The reality is Darkstalkers rereleases have ALWAYS sold well and yet despite that, Capcom refuses to make a new one

[Anonymous No.8664646]

>>8664639
The rereleases have never done particularly well. Nor even the contemporary console ports. And I say this as a huge Darkstalkers fan. The original arcade releases, though? They did great. Board sales numbers in the dozens of thousands, and income chart ranking within the yearly top 5 three games in a row.

[Anonymous No.8664802]

>>8655657
>Darkstalkers will always be the best /vr/ fighting game
Next year PS3 becomes retro and Street Fighter 4 will prove you wrong

[Anonymous No.8665258]

>>8655663
Skullgirls does it if you play 1v1 instead of 2v2 or 3v3. I wanna say the same is true for some of the newer KoF games, but I'm probably wrong about that one

[Anonymous No.8665262]

>>8656490
>Literally naked
Her entire bare ass being out is what got me into this series when I was a teenager

[Anonymous No.8665264]

>>8664802
You mean KOF13

[Anonymous No.8665338]

>>8664802
>Next year PS3 becomes retro

I had this idea to make retro current year minus X years. Did they finally implement that rule for real?

[Anonymous No.8666216]

>>8664802
PS3 will never be retro, the jumps in graphics from that point onward were such that modern games still don't really look all that different even to modern players. Sony could've released God of War 3 as a PS5 game with some minor alterations (like resolution and raytracing), and no one would've noticed.

[Anonymous No.8666254]

>>8666216
Once stuff like Xbox, GC and PS2 became "retro" here, who cares anymore?
It'd be nice to have 7th gen here, we could have threads about games like Anarchy Reigns.

[Anonymous No.8666275]

>>8666254
Most people still don't consider those retro. And even still, the difference between the sixth and the seventh generation is night and day.

[Anonymous No.8666416]

>>8666254
At least with the 6th generation, an argument can be made that it was just a technical evolution of the 5th generation. The mentality was mostly the same and the games industry wasn't radically different than that of the 5th other than better hardware. This is definitely not true about the 7th gen and really you can think of the 7th gen as the true beginning of modern gaming, while the 6th gen was the last truly retro generation. Even if it is almost retro in terms of age, it will never be retro in terms of actual game design, the state of the industry at the time and so on and so forth. The people that wanted to gate keep the 6th gen from /vr/ are retarded since they allowed the Dreamcast which was a literal 6th gen machine and PS2,Xbox and Gamecube games aren't that much different than it, but they are right in saying that the Xbox 360, PS3 and the Wii really will never be retro.

[Anonymous No.8666506]

>>8666275
>>8666416
The main thing about gatekeeping /vr/ was that it was a nice filter from /v/ scum.
The Dreamcast was allowed because it was released in 1998, and it died prematurely in 2001 (a time when Ps1 and N64 were still relevant).
Yes, it was the exception of the 6th gen being allowed here, but it made sense and totally entered the criteria of "1999 and before".
I think the real mistake was that they allowed unnecessary vidya boards (/vm/? come on), while the much wanted /v2k/ was completely ignored.

[Anonymous No.8666528]

>>8666216
>PS3 will never be retro

[Anonymous No.8666537]

>>8666506
I get your point about the unnecessary vidya boards not needing to exist at all, but on the same token, why devote one board to just one generation of gaming? Modern gamers wouldn't use it because 6th gen isn't really modern and /vr/ users wouldn't use it due to the years the games came out. If anything, allowing 6th gen here made sense since 6th gen games aren't talked about very often on /v/ in the first place and just from the zeitgeist at the time, 6th gen games are really just refinements of 5th and sometimes 4th gen games, so it would be kind of pointless to make another board to exclusively talk about them when there already is a board to talk about games that are similar enough.

Plus, in terms of the culture, the people that were having a conniption about 6th gen titles ruining this board were wrong and in general, this boar is still very much the same as it has always been. I also think the "1999 and before" rule was kinda self-defeating, since there were Dreamcast games being released during the early PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era, which made it arbitrary compared to 5th gen and before (which would exclude the Dremacast) or 6th gen and before (which would include it and the other 6th gen consoles as well). Ultimately, I thought it was one of the better decisions made by any group of mods regarding board rules, which I don't often say.

[Anonymous No.8666559]

>>8664646
>The rereleases have never done particularly well.
For what Capcom asked of them they did, not once was a rerelase considered a failure for them.

[Anonymous No.8666568]

>>8666216
I mean I know what you're saying, but that's only really the case for the most AAA of AAA PS3/360 games. The only reason Fallout 3/New Vegas doesn't look dated is because Bethesda refuses to use new models so by definition it can't be dated.

[Anonymous No.8666572]

>>8666537
/v2k/ was supposed to be the board for all generations after 1999 that are NOT current gen, so right now /v2k/ would include 6th, 7th and 8th gen, and when 10th gen comes about, 9th gen would go to /v2k/.
It was the perfect solution for the constant whining from 6th gen kids, but mods themselves (the new team of ERPing furry mods, anyway) were 6th gen kids too, so...
> this boar is still very much the same as it has always been
Not at all.

[Anonymous No.8666574]

>>8656465
>flat chest + short hair = dude
Sure you're not ignoring a few other characteristics there? Not a dude, looney-troon.

[Anonymous No.8666584]

>>8666537
6th gen absolutely ruined this board.
Look at this shit you got your way and you still can't fucking shut up about it. I haven't been here in years because it's so shit. I came back and the one thread i saw is faggot ass whining about how you fucking won and got 6th gen included. Fucking hell. Just shutnup

[Anonymous No.8666606]

>>8666572
>/v2k/ was supposed to be the board for all generations after 1999 that are NOT current gen, so right now /v2k/ would include 6th, 7th and 8th gen, and when 10th gen comes about, 9th gen would go to /v2k/.
The 6th gen is nothing like the 7th gen or the following generations, when AAA/modern gaming started. Plus, why would you need a board for modern gaming when /v/ already exists to talk about that which they do all the time? It doesn't even make sense on paper just de to it being redundant and mixing things together that aren't related. It hardly sounds like a perfect solution when you are just creating another /v/ to shit this site up even more. The only way it could even make sense was if it was 6th gen only, but then that's just a waste of bandwidth.

Again, the mods here have made more arbitrary and nonsensical decisions than adding games from the 6th gen to /vr/. The Dreamcast was already here. Unless you really want to argue that the Dreamcast doesn't belong here, then there is no point to saying the 6th gen as a whole doesn't belong here just due to arbitrary date.

>>8666584
This is the type of manchild I'm arguing with that says that the 6th gen ruined /vr/. Maybe you guys need to grow up and get an actual hobby outside of playing video games. You guys are the equivalent of those /g/ trannies that only buy used Thinkpads. This board is still as slow as it's always been and the post quality still the same since I got here in 2015. Stop pretending this board is popular enough to experience a nosedive in quality like even /g/ has.

[Anonymous No.8666624]

>>8666606
>The 6th gen is nothing like the 7th gen or the following generations
I disagree strongly, but that's not the point I was trying to make anyway, the point is that the rules of /vr/, the old ones, as arbitrary as they were, were a nice filter from /v/ scum.
>Plus, why would you need a board for modern gaming when /v/ already exists
/v/ is fast as shit and only about very very current shit. 7th gen is not easy to discuss at all there. And mind you 7th gen was a long generation, there's a lot of games to discuss.
/vr/ should have remained 1999 and before only.

[Anonymous No.8666689]

>>8666528
Can't wait dor ps3 boys to have mass effect meme trying to 'hold the line' to keep ps4 from becoming retro.

[Anonymous No.8666717]

>>8666584
I think the board was already going off the rails before the acceptance of the 6th gen. It slowly was becoming /v/ 2.0. Now it's in overdrive. I think it was bound to happen

[Anonymous No.8666745]

>>8666689
>7th gen was the last good generation before the cancer
>COD:MW2 *sip* ahh they dont make em like this anymore
>Dark souls general
>Bioshock was pure sovl
>get this stupid 8th gen garbage out its not retro!

[Anonymous No.8666782]

>>8666745
lmao

[Anonymous No.8667793]

>>8655657
It has some of my most favored character designs for the themes. Can't think of much more to add except maybe Cthulhu pirate, TV well girl, some combo Michael Myers-Pinhead-Jason hybrid, chupacabra, and a FF7 haunted house creature.

[Anonymous No.8667894]

>>8666216
Yeah, PS3 and 360 are where the design philosophy of games turned from "make something fun and unique" to "pick one of these cookie cutter gameplay styles, we can't afford to get creative and experiment because we're spending millions to make this game look as realistic as possible". There are exceptions but you don't really see games trying new stuff anymore, everything is ridiculously homogenized and devoid of originality and the shift was definitely between PS2 and 3

[Anonymous No.8667970]

>>8667793
>Can't think of much more to add
Putting every character in 1 game again is a start

[Anonymous No.8667992]

>>8667970
Isn't Darkstalkers Chronicle the only one where you can actually play as all of them? I know 3 had like three different versions that each had a slightly different roster

[Anonymous No.8668103]

>>8667992
No Chronicle is the "Hyper Street Fighter 2" where you choose different modes based on different games. But it's horribly inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.8668207]

>>8668103
What other game has the full roster for Darkstalkers 3 then? Is it one of the ports? Because I know Resurrection and the arcade versions all swapped around Lilith, Pyron, Donovan, Huitzil, and I think one or two others with none of them having them all

[Anonymous No.8668228]

>>8668207
>What other game has the full roster for Darkstalkers 3 then? Is it one of the ports?
Saturn, PS1 and PS2.

[Anonymous No.8668318]

>>8667970
>the could've done that for the collection
>say "nah we'll just give them all the games instead"
Ok yeah that's a tradeoff but is it such a crime to put every character in Vampire Saviour?

[Anonymous No.8668327]

>>8668318
They probably don't have anyone who knows how to do anything that involved with regards to hacking 20 year old arcade ROMs.

[Anonymous No.8668426]

Morrigan

[Anonymous No.8668429]

[Anonymous No.8668878]

>>8668228
Is Saturn the best out of these ports? I know PS1 fighting games were usually pretty shitty compared to the arcade versions, and fighting games feel like shit with the dualshock 2

[Anonymous No.8668880]

>>8668429
Good line art but those halftones look like shit

[Anonymous No.8669305]

Vampire Savior is my second favorite, with Marvel Vs Capcom 2 being my favorite.

There's still really nothing like Vampire Savior. It influenced Marvel and Guilty Gear and through them pretty much every modern "anime fighter" or "air dash fighter" or whatever you want to call that particular breed of combo heavy, high air-mobility fighting games that followed. But it's nuances are still totally unique to it. I can't think of any other game that feels as constantly aggressive without being dumb.

And of course the cast, aesthetic, and style is inimitable with probably some of the best pixel art animations ever.

[Anonymous No.8669516]

[Anonymous No.8669560]

>>8667793
>Can't think of much more to add
There's no shortage of cool monsters you could base characters on, the trouble would be if current Capcom or anyone for that matter would be able to make new designs on par with the current cast. Pretty much all fighting games as they go one get lamer and lamer with the majority of their newcomers. From Street Fighter to KOF to even Guilty Gear, I'd hate to see Darkstalkers fall into that same trend.

[Anonymous No.8669608]

>>8667970
It is a shame only the PS2 version has all the characters. I don't think the newest announced release will have Dee.

>>8669560
I don't know, I really liked the Juri Han design. She is like a Jojo's character with unique colors and floofy pants. She stands out, as the one character where all the effort was placed into over the other new characters just as Cammy White was amazing in comparison to the other 3 characters she debuted with.

[Anonymous No.8669647]

>>8669608
Yeah but for every Juri Han you’ve got Lukes and Abels and Necallis coming out the ass

[Anonymous No.8669858]

>>8669608
>>8669647
I can only really think of two or three newcomers in SFV that I think of favorably and even then I don't think they reach the level of the old games in terms of being either aesthetically pleasing or pushing the weird factor. Guys like Rufus, Oro, Necro and Hakan outweird G and FANG by miles and while Menat's cute and definitely pretty different and unique among the female cast I don't think she's really as great as some of SF's best looking girls.
Every other newcomer is either comparatively boring and generic like Falke, Ed and Laura. Got hit with the ugly stick like Luke and Abigail, or just altogether forgettable like Kage, Necalli and Zeku the latter of which is only really not a fleeting memory in my head cause he has ties and allusions to Strider.
>Cammy White was amazing in comparison to the other 3 characters she debuted with.
Fei Long I can agree with since he was just a Bruce Lee parody but T.Hawk and Deejay at least had a theme and style that was core to their designs and fighting styles that I don't think is very present in the newer characters.

[Anonymous No.8669867]

>>8666254
Um anon, Xbox, GC, and PS2 are already retro here
>>6775606

[Anonymous No.8670013]

>>8669516
I mean it's not, since they're doing the rerlease. Rival Schools, now THAT is dead. But I dont see a new game coming.

[Anonymous No.8670019]

>>8655657
the health bars are too shit

[Anonymous No.8670024]

>>8655665
Yeah it is. Both games use the system of 2 health bars, a round ends when one is depleted, match ends when someone loses both

[Anonymous No.8670034]

>>8670019
If you're talking about the stock system, only the third game uses that. the first two have a standard round system.

[Anonymous No.8670101]

>>8670034
no the design is shit

[Anonymous No.8670165]

>>8669647
Yeah, Juri is fully fleshed out as alternate timeline Chun. I just think they need to put that same effort into every character. I remember hearing every character in Darkstalkers was done by a different artist before submitting to directors/planners to add cohesion and personality quirks. With that kind of effort, new characters can turn out alright.

>>8669858
I actually like the characters of SF3. So I do think Oro and Necro are cool designs. A Gracie and another stretchy character (like Dhalsim) works for me. I did think G was the coolest new male character, but he's now like a fleshed out Q. All the others, I agree are forgettable, but that may be because I did not play 5, but I was more disappointed they ruined Lucia Morgan (all images prior had her a serious character) contrasted by elation that Akira is in. T.Hawk and Deejay seem like a good start to new characters but more was needed to promote them from jobbers to Ken. I think it is just more time needed to allow for Capcom artists to really push their character designs to the fullest as they once did with the Darkstalkers games: https://youtu.be/gyM3QiC7kB4

[Anonymous No.8670531]

>>8670101
As a mechanic ? Then git gud. As a design? Then git taste.

[Anonymous No.8670549]

>>8669867
Yeah, "became", is in past tense.

[Anonymous No.8670595]

>>8669560
>Guilty Gear
The new characters in Strive have some pretty good designs, same with MOST of the new Xrd characters, but then again Xrd had Bedman so you're not entirely wrong

[Anonymous No.8670671]

>>8670165
Don't misunderstand I love pretty much every SF3 newcomer except Remy. A lot of my favorite SF characters are the weirdos, so a lot of characters that most general SF fans dislike like Rufus, Hakan or FANG I'm also pretty fond of. Which is why I guess most SFV newcomers don't do it for me, so many of them are so basic and generic, weirdos I think for the most part is something SFV lacks and considering SF6's art direction from the teaser it may sadly be a persisting trend.
> I think it is just more time needed to allow for Capcom artists to really push their character designs to the fullest as they once did with the Darkstalkers games
Considering it seems like they were basically forcing Bengus to get illustrations out in a timely manner for the SFV arcade mode art, I'm not sure if current Capcom is capable of giving their artist the breathing room necessary.
>>8670595
Nago and Goldlewis are cool and I like them a lot, and Gio is good but mostly just cause she's hot and not really because she's that interesting of a design. Happy Chaos is fucking horrible though. With GG I think it's less the newcomers are bad and more the art direction changed so much from XX to Xrd that even the newcomers and redesigns look out of place comparatively to the veteran characters who didn't change much. Characters like Elphelt, Bedman, Answer and Leo felt like they would fit better in Blazblue than Guilty Gear. Even the newcomers I liked like Ram, Jack O and Kum debatably are a little out of place too. Though even as much as I don't really care for them I'd say they're a step above 90% of BB's character designs.
It's prob just my preference to the XX style clouding my judgement and its not like XX didn't have losers like Testament and Anji.

[Anonymous No.8670729]

>>8669608
What comic is that variant cover? I assume Street Fighter?

[Anonymous No.8670748]

>>8670165
played the shit out of this on my grave shifts at work.

id hide in the stairwells for 20-30 minutes at a time & play until i died


good year

[Anonymous No.8670751]

[Anonymous No.8670756]

>>8670729
Udon's Darkstalkers comic.

[Anonymous No.8670893]

>>8670751

[Anonymous No.8670910]

>>8670671
>With GG I think it's less the newcomers are bad and more the art direction changed so much from XX to Xrd that even the newcomers and redesigns look out of place comparatively to the veteran characters who didn't change much
To be fair even GG1 also had characters like May, Baldhead, and Kliff who weren't really "metal" like most characters. They would do more of them like Jam and Bridget but by Xrd it was clear that they wanted to move from the rock and metal aesthetic to just fantasy anime. Personally I think GG is at it's best when making characters who are just completely off the wall like Faust, Robo-Ky, and Zappa, it's those characters I feel really leave an impression on the player.
>didn't have losers like Testament and Anji
You like the metal aesthetic and don't like Testament? He's probably the design that most invokes the genre of metal, even if you don't care much for him he fits the series' aesthetic perfectly.

[Anonymous No.8671056]

>>8670910
>To be fair even GG1 also had characters like May, Baldhead, and Kliff who weren't really "metal" like most characters
Naw you and me are in the same boat, all of my favorite GG characters are the weirdos. Zappa, Eddie, Faust and especially Leopaldon from Isuka. Even my favorite girl in the series is Abba. That said even some of the less "metal" characters I like a lot like Dizzy and Bridget, but I guess its because even the more typically anime characters back then had something visually weird, interesting or cool about them. Bridget had all of Roger's transformations and Dizzy had Necro, the fish and her tail. So I guess it's less about fitting the theme for me and more just looking and being interesting. A character like say Fanny from Petit is probably the least metal pre-Xrd design in the series and I still think she's a great design with a lot of personality. There is also a novelty in having the contrast between the edgy and metal inspired characters and the softer cute ones that is kind of lost now with the general style shift.
Additionally I'm a big fan of Bastard!! the manga that was a huge influence on Guilty Gear also fluctuates in art style across it's series run and I think that manga looked its best when it pushed the extremes of both the wackyness and edgyness with its designs and expressions.
>You like the metal aesthetic and don't like Testament?
Honestly most of my dislike for Testament comes from fighting him lol. I don't feel strongly about his design one way or the other, I don't think he's really all that cool even though he definitely fits the theme but hes also not terrible or in my least favorite designs in the series.
I think my big GG design sin is that I'm not to big on Johnny, something about his design just screams trying to hard to be cool that it just kind of falls flat for me. If he hit that sweet spot between weird and cool maybe I'd like him more but sadly he doesn't.

[Anonymous No.8671351]

>>8670671
Yeah I guess that's a fair point, the art style change makes them seem less out of place because now the mainstays don't look like they used to. I still think the art direction is good but Sol at least definitely looked better pre-Xrd

[Anonymous No.8671409]

COOMER THREAD COOMER THREAD

WARNING: THIS IS A COOMER THREAD. ALL HANDS ON THE TABLE, NOW.

[Anonymous No.8671664]

>>8670531
Red and green are a terrible choice for the most important hud element on the screen.

[Anonymous No.8671785]

>>8671664
autism

[Anonymous No.8671797]

>>8655657
im confused, that's not Bloody Roar

[Anonymous No.8671814]

>>8671785
I'm not the one spam replying because an opinion is making me upset

[Anonymous No.8671815]

>>8671814
I wasn't the guy you were arguing with, I just think complaining about health bar colors is autism, no offense.

[Anonymous No.8672338]

>>8655657
JJBA:HftF is definitely the best, but some SNK fighters come close.

[Anonymous No.8673383]

>>8671664
They aren't.
Green is automatically associated with "Good" and red with "bad"
It works perfectly to indicate health and missing health respectively.

[Anonymous No.8674714]

>>8670893
The ideal female body type

[Anonymous No.8674772]

>>8673383
red helf

[Anonymous No.8674794]

I prefer SamSho II.

[Anonymous No.8674797]

>>8674714
Amen. Flat chests are god-tier.

[Anonymous No.8675617]

>>8674797
>>8674714
Don't forge4t the big butt to contrast it.

[Anonymous No.8677314]

[Anonymous No.8677321]

>>8657378
That's a man with tits drawn on.

[Anonymous No.8678326]

>>8677321
Everything is a man when you literally cannot stop thinking about them.

[Anonymous No.8678349]

>>8655657
that's where you're wrong jimbo.

[Anonymous No.8678401]

>>8678349
Mechanically? Sure, I can see why someone would say this.
Visually? Absolutely fucking not.

[Anonymous No.8678458]

>>8678401
Funny, I have the exact opposite takes.

3S is beautiful but while it’s fun to play I don’t think it holds a candle to the nonstop excitement the mechanics of vsav offer.

[Anonymous No.8678486]

>>8678458
Fair enough.
Just to be clear though, I fucking love both games, in fact I prefer playing Third Strike, it's just that as far as I'm concerned Darkstalkers in general was the absolute peak of Capcom when it comes to character and stage design.

[Anonymous No.8679350]

>>8678349
>>8678401
>>8678458
>>8678486
It's a testament to Capcom's gory days that you can take pretty much any fighting game they made in the mid to late 90s and say that they were very inspired in terms of actual game mechanics and art direction/graphics. You can't really say that nowadays.

[Anonymous No.8679583]

>>8679350
*glory days

[Anonymous No.8681506]

>>8679350
>>8679583
I mean, Darkstalkers regularly cut each other in half so gory days was not wrong either desu

[Anonymous No.8682554]

>>8675617
Small chest and nice ass is perfect

[Anonymous No.8683782]

>>8681506
True lol. I was just saying that both 3rd Strike (along with the other SF3 games) and Vsav (and the other Darkstalkers games) are both premium fighting game kinos and you can't go wrong with either one of them. Capcom was just on a roll during the mid to late 90s with great fighting game series: Street Fighter Alpha, the Marvel/SNK vs Capcom games, Rival Schools,etc. It's such a shame that they realy can't recreate that magic with SFV, but that's life I suppose.

[Anonymous No.8683803]

>>8683782
I'd like to think that if they ditched Dimps in favor of working with Arika or even Arc System Works that they could get close to what they once had.

[Anonymous No.8683825]

>>8682554
Amen, brother.

[Anonymous No.8684445]

>>8683782
>Capcom was just on a roll during the mid to late 90s with great fighting game series
Oh absolutely, the people working on those had a lot of talent and passion and it showed.
I believe there is still SOME talent left in Capcom but current day budgets and sale expectations are so high that they barely take any risks any more. I already fucking hate what little they have shown of SF 6 and it is very disheartening.
People are speculating that the Fighting Collection is a way to gauge interest and potentially make a new Darkstalkers but honestly I just don't see it happening.

[Anonymous No.8684480]

>>8684445
>People are speculating that the Fighting Collection is a way to gauge interest and potentially make a new Darkstalkers
Yeah I've heard that one before. I'll get the collection but the Darkstalkers Are Dead until proven otherwise/

[Anonymous No.8684506]

>>8684445
>I believe there is still SOME talent left in Capcom
Yeah but they're all working on MH, a game series I sadly don't have interest in

[Anonymous No.8684795]

>>8684480
Yeah...
I'll be getting it too but only to play some Vampire Savior and Pocket Fighter with people online for... what? maybe a month? before people lose interest, I have no hope that its sales numbers will do anything.

>>8684506
Unfortunate. I fucking love Monster Hunter but I perfectly understand why some people just can't like it, the series appeals to a certain kind of autism that if you don't share then you really just can't get into it.

[Anonymous No.8684896]

>>8684795
Honestly, if you are going to play the Vsav and Pocket Fighter for online matches, you might as well just go on Fightcade and play against randoms. At least the roms there are free and there are generally people playing online.

[Anonymous No.8684905]

>>8684896
Wait, what? I never messed with that, is Pocket Fighter is on Fightcade too?
Is it alive? As alive as Fightcade goes anyway.

[Anonymous No.8684930]

>>8684905
NTA, but this is the current state of Pocket Fighter (not sure if it's the usual)

[Anonymous No.8684937]

>>8684905
And, from my experience, these are the usual numbers for Vampire

[Anonymous No.8684949]

>>8684930
>>8684937
Neat.
Like I said, I never actually looked into Fightcade but those numbers are about what I'd expect, thanks for the input friend.

[Anonymous No.8684960]

>>8684949
No problem, here are the most active rooms if you are curious.

[Anonymous No.8684973]

>>8684960
That's a lot of King of Fighters.
Also not sure if it's always like that but I'm somewhat surprised that Alpha 2 is more popular than Alpha 3.

[Anonymous No.8684979]

>>8677321
You are literally gay

[Anonymous No.8685007]

>>8684973
Might be just a tonight thing. I remember Alpha 3 having more players just last week

[Anonymous No.8685340]

>>8684960
>800+ combined KOF2002 players
I'm really surprised. I didn't think 2002 would have more players than KOF98, let alone Third Strike

[Anonymous No.8685379]

>>8685340
Mexicans will be playing 2002 until the end of time.
Even if at some point in the future the "Going into Games Machine" gets invented for real and it turns out it's only compatible with 3D games, they will STILL be playing 2002 instead of the latest installment of the series.

[Anonymous No.8685390]

>>8684795
My issue is more that it feels like a treadmill that if you didn't get on day 1, you might as well stop because you will never catch up.

[Anonymous No.8685410]

>>8685390
It takes time, but it's not THAT bad.

t. guy who picked up the genre only two years ago, I'm not winning any tournaments but I take some games off some pretty strong players in my region.

[Anonymous No.8685415]

>>8685410
I think he's talking about Monster Hunter actually, the other game mentioned in that post.

[Anonymous No.8685420]

>>8685415
Yeah I was talking about MH.

[Anonymous No.8687168]

This game gave me yellow fever (despite the Asian girl in-game being purple).

>>8674714
>>8674797
>>8675617
>>8682554
>>8683825
Patrician gentlemen of the most refined tastes

[Anonymous No.8687193]

>>8685379
i cant wait for the smell patch

[Anonymous No.8687323]

[Anonymous No.8687350]

>>8655657
But I hate it

[Anonymous No.8687354]

I only like it for the porn

[Anonymous No.8687943]

>>8684445
You just know Morrigan wants the barbed cock.

[Anonymous No.8687950]

>>8687168
>mfw those legs

[Anonymous No.8688003]

>>8687943
But he's not a lion, he just has a lion's head. He's human otherwise.

[Anonymous No.8688303]

>>8687350
>>8687354
Do you just not like fighting games or something?

[Anonymous No.8689757]

Are you man enough to unlock Oboro Bishamon on the Saturn version of Vsav?

[Anonymous No.8690117]

>>8689757
I might be... I'll give that a try this week. So far, I've only dicked around in vs mode with a friend since picking up a copy of it

[Anonymous No.8691314]

>>8668880
>but those halftones look like shit
Do they ever look good anon?

[Anonymous No.8691329]

>>8671664
LITERAL non-issue, anon. Also, it looks good; get some taste

[Anonymous No.8691531]

>>8687168
Ironic choice of image

[Anonymous No.8691537]

>>8691314
Eh, depends on the art style. They definitely don't work with that Morrigan drawing though. They'd look better if they were smaller and more dense and actually inside the lines, but the line art is too sketchy for halftones to look right with it anyway

[Anonymous No.8691681]

I've always really loved the Vampire series because the gameplay is more reactive than anything else.

[Anonymous No.8691874]

Lilith

[Anonymous No.8692030]

>>8655657
>the best /vr/ fighting game
Super Street Fighter II Turbo
>mechanically
Street Fighter 3 Third Strike
>and visually
Samurai Shodown II

[Anonymous No.8692184]

>>8692030
How is third strike not automatically the best fighting game if it's the best one mechanically?

[Anonymous No.8692420]

>>8671409
Cope tranny

[Anonymous No.8692424]

>>8684960
Why are JoJo HFTF's player numbers keep on getting smaller?

[Anonymous No.8693665]

>>8691874
>>8655657
>>8657378
>>8658526
>>8664036
>>8668426
>>8668429
>>8670751
>>8670893
>>8675617
>>8677314
>>8678326
>>8687168
>>8687323
>>8691874
Made for BBC (Biggu Bishamon Cocku)

[Anonymous No.8694337]

>>8655657
>visually
Bc I am visualizing boobs

[Anonymous No.8694348]

>>8693665
based bishamon connoisseur

[Anonymous No.8694373]

>>8692424
Probably because the anime bandwagoners bailed on it after realizing how absurd the game really is.

[Anonymous No.8694374]

>>8693665
mate i love a fat ass but that just looks wrong LMFAO

[Anonymous No.8694379]

>>8692420
considering that porn addicts are more likely to be trannies, that's very amusing of you bro

[redditor No.8694381]

>>8671409
As my name suggests, I agree with this opinion because I have an exquisite taste.

[Anonymous No.8694382]

>>8694379
Source: dude trust me

[Anonymous No.8694389]

>>8694382
whatever makes you feel about your poor relationship with your mother/father and lack of fitness
hope you get better one day

[Anonymous No.8694715]

>>8692030
>>8692184
Yeah not to mention Third Strike is objectively better visually than SF2. How did you even come to this conclusion

[Anonymous No.8694739]

>>8694389
I'm not the one with meme brain rot here faggot, I don't have trannies, le -oomer words and all other kinds of shit, stale memes on my mind 24/7, spare me the condescending tone.

[Anonymous No.8695020]

haha, hsien-ko and linlin moan after getting swole'd on by sakura's army.

[Anonymous No.8696554]

>>8694373
But that's half the fun, that it's completely busted

[Anonymous No.8696793]

>>8695020
This upsets me.

[Anonymous No.8696816]

So is anyone going to explain why vsav plays well
or anything about the actual game
and not about how it looks or sounds

[Anonymous No.8696941]

>>8694739
it's a shame you're getting that tone from me, i can't imagine what you're getting from people you could have been close to

[Anonymous No.8696981]

>>8695020
cute

[Anonymous No.8696987]

>>8696816
Play it yourself and find out.
We tried talking about gameplay but autismal anons will always jump out with "pushblock is bad!" and stuff just to be contrarian or whiny. It's not worth it.
Also remember 4chan is supposed to be anonymous, I don't want to say anyone here is a famous "Pro" player, but if you're actually very into the game, then you use specific fighting game forums to talk about it, with a username, and you play with other people. If you talk about certain things the same way you talk in serious forums, you might get doxxed.
>And?
And it brings unecessary gossip and shitposting like what happens with the /vg/ shmup autists.

[Anonymous No.8697064]

>>8695020
So does Chun-li
https://youtu.be/igNpjq3QQdA?t=217

[Anonymous No.8697254]

>>8696816
Extremely good fundamentals, one of the easiest fighters to pick up and learn with
Surprisingly well-balanced with 12 of the 15 characters have won tournaments and see regular high-level play
Much more reactive in play than a lot of other fighters, it's much more based around countering what your opponent is doing
Some of the fastest matches in fighting games, if you ever need your event to run on time, host a Darkstalkers tourny.

[Anonymous No.8697341]

>>8655657
it runs poorly on my raspberry pi

[Anonymous No.8698328]

>>8697254
Who hasnt won tournaments?

[Anonymous No.8699162]

>>8698328
Anakaris is one of them probably.

[Anonymous No.8699345]

>>8699162
I know for certain he is the one low tier that definitely has. MightyMar is famous (as famous as any vsav player can be anyway) for winning tournaments with the “worst” character.

[Anonymous No.8699405]

>>8693665
I want to drown in those.

[Anonymous No.8699410]

>>8699345
Then my second guesses would be Rikuo and Hsien-Ko but i might be wrong there on Hsien-Ko because Tenraiha is known to be one of the best EX moves in the entire game.