/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8650808]

Best gen 1 Pokémon coming through

[Anonymous No.8650824]

>Golem used Rock Slide
>it's super effective!
>Beedrill has died

[Anonymous No.8650838]

>poison type
>in a game where psychics are OP
Even though it has bug type moves, they do it no good vs. psychics.

[Anonymous No.8650839]

>>8650824
>Beedrill uses mega drain
>outspeeds it because golem is a slow piece of shit
>It's 4x effective
>golem dies
>beedrill is healed

[Anonymous No.8650847]

>>8650838
Not true, Twineedle can OHKO an Alakazam. I've done it before on Pokémon Showdown a number of times and have done lots of solo runs on R/B.

The biggest challenge is that Alakazam is a speed powerhouse, but as long as you can cripple it with a paralysis, than Beedrill can easily OHKO it on a switch in

[Anonymous No.8650872]

>>8650808
That's not Porygon

[Anonymous No.8650880]

Um, that's not my Pikachu named Sparky that I refused to evolve so it would continue to follow me around for the entire game.

[Anonymous No.8650885]

>>8650839
>Golem lives because even with 4x weakness Beedrill's special is too low to do anything

[Anonymous No.8650903]

>>8650808
That's not Gengar (Or Slowbro.)

[Anonymous No.8650904]

>looks awesome
>super early evolution to help you with the game
>learns whatever stupid attacking move your 10 year old ass wants to give it
Complete bro

[Anonymous No.8650906]

>>8650880
You can't evolve Yellow's pikachu unless you trade it to another game and evolve it there. It will always refuse the stone.

[Anonymous No.8650913]

>>8650906
I had that thought too but realized he'd never actually find that out unless he intended to evolve it.

[Anonymous No.8650915]

>>8650906
>>8650913
Damn, I legitimately had no clue.
>>8650904
Also a very good answer.

[Anonymous No.8650931]

>>8650847
If you're going to switch, then do it to a Pokémon that has no weakness against psychics. There are plenty of ways to OHKO a Alakazam, if you go the physical route. Sending Beedrill is too much of a (needless) risk.

[Anonymous No.8650938]

Is rom hacking . Net a good place for old school rom hacks? I downloaded one ips patch from the site and it had like 3 or 4 ips files in it with no idea which one to patch

[Anonymous No.8650940]

>>8650931
>Sending Beedrill is too much of a (needless) risk.
It's called winning with style

[Anonymous No.8650970]

I AM THE LORD OF THE HARVEST

[Anonymous No.8650989]

>>8650938
There's such active communities for romhacking the older games that I would make sure to check for other sites as well if you're looking.

[Anonymous No.8650995]

>>8650970

[Anonymous No.8650997]

>>8650938
I just want you to know that I hate you.

[Anonymous No.8651005]

>>8650872
>>8650904
based picks

[Anonymous No.8651007]

>>8650938
Yeah usually. Check the readme so you know what you’re doing. If there’s more than one IPS file that means there’s several variations and different tweaks. Let’s take for example Phantasy Star 3. There’s a romhack available that retranslates the script to be more faithful to the Japanese original. When you download the hack, you get three files. One is just the new translation, one features a faster walking speed and the other features higher XP drops. You can pick and choose which one you want or patch all three files on instead. If you’re having trouble, check out CDromance. They have prepatched roms so you can don’t have to hassle with patching yourself

[Anonymous No.8651015]

>>8650885
I guess I've never tried it against a golem but I can confirm rhydon will go down to a mega drain

[Anonymous No.8651028]

>>8650970
I was pretty unimpressed with Zubat and Golbat in Gen 1. Crobat is amazing at least.

[Anonymous No.8651047]

Wow, he's literally me

[Anonymous No.8651051]

>>8651047
You should work on that bro thats not healthy

[Anonymous No.8651057]

>>8651047
>Wow, he's literally me
You might say that in jest but it feels like all I do is eat and sleep anymore.

[Anonymous No.8651060]

>>8651057
You should work on that bro that's not healthy

[Anonymous No.8651153]

>>8651007
i did check the read me it just listed all the changes the player made. not which one. i ended up getting it up and running

>>8650989
i'll have to look into it

[Anonymous No.8651215]

Hitmonlee needs more love

[Anonymous No.8651226]

>>8650940
>It's called winning with style
I'm so unlucky with Pokémon that I'm sure every single thing that could go wrong would go wrong if I tried any stunt like that. I ended up playing in a boring, but safe, style. My luck fared better against the CPU, but, in that case, luck is not very much needed.

[Anonymous No.8651229]

Raticate coming through.

[Anonymous No.8651248]

>>8651226
Parafusion would be safest way if you wanted to switch into an attack, but ideally you would switch clean after Alakazam takes down a mon, like, paralyzing him as one last fuck you when you know he's gonna OHKO you, then countering with Beedrill. The opponent will probably not switch because he thinks he'll survive and OHKO it in the same turn.

[Anonymous No.8651310]

>>8651060
Not him, but I tried. Things aren't easy here, so I don't have much freedom to do whatever I want to get better. Kinda like maneuvering a car within a tight space, you need to do everything slowly and thoughtfully, praying you won't crash and trying to pay no mind to how tight your surroundings are, hoping to eventually find a road where it's not so clamped and you can drive more relaxed. You also know a lot of drivers, and they drive better than you; some of them got the best roads available, others got roads even worse than yours. You ask them to teach you how to drive, they might comply, but it's your car and you'll have to drive it anyway, with or without help. Things have been like that for so long that, if I find the open and wide road, will I even recognize it? Will I still be driving slowly and constricted, despite all the area around me, out of habit and apathy? I feel like I'm forgetting more and more how to drive, and the steering wheel ahead of me is just a reminder of something I should be doing... But what it is?

[Anonymous No.8651321]

>>8651310
It sounds like you're sitting in your parked car in the driveway, man.

[Anonymous No.8651339]

>>8651321
It's not like that, but I do feel like I'm almost parking with the car turned on... Until I run out of gas. I tried a lot of things, but, in /vr/ terms, it seems like I'm being filtered by life. Utterly pathetic. I never expected much from me, but still...

[Anonymous No.8651343]

>>8651339
It's never too late to start trying in earnest. I know this is easy for me to say, but you can and should expect more from yourself.

[Anonymous No.8651363]

>>8650808
My guy

[Anonymous No.8651365]

>>8650904
All hail the king.
>tfw thought myself brilliant strategist for having a Nidoking with Fire Blast, Blizzard, Thunderbolt and Earthquake

[Anonymous No.8651378]

>>8651365
I mean sure it's not competitive or whatever, but making your Nidoking that way is legitimately good to clear the single player game given how heavily it already favors leveling a single strong monster. IIRC something like this plus Horn Drill was one of the faster ways to win the whole game outside glitches, last I paid attention to that kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.8651395]

>>8651343
Thanks, bro. I know it's the norm, but I'm not exactly your usual hikokimori. I was once, in my early teens, but things "progressed". However, my depression was still strong, and it came as a shock for me. I felt quite desperate, because I had put my past behind, I was "living", and, still, it wasn't the answer. For family reasons, I'm staying more at home these days, a bit like my hikokimori days, but not quite. Either way, I'm not longing for any particular lifestyle I had or hadn't before. I've tried many things, but never solved my issue. I don't *want* something, I don't have any "that's what's missing" feeling, I don't complain about my current or past life. It's just that I have this fucked up trait I can't get rid of. I still haven't given up on trying, but I'm slowed as fuck now, like a Snorlax, almost "parking my car", so I get this feeling like I'm gonna lose.

Again, thanks for listening to me.

[Anonymous No.8651405]

>>8651047
10-year-old me sends his thanks for carrying him through most of Yellow you absolute unit.

[Anonymous No.8651426]

>>8651365
Sounds pretty dope to me. What could go wrong?

[Anonymous No.8651446]

>>8651365
Nothing wrong with having a terrifying monster with several types of elemental death rays.

[Anonymous No.8651449]

I don’t care if it’s not even the best bird Pokémon, I think Fearows cool. I always catch a lvl 2 Spearow as my first Pokémon then raise her into a badass

[Anonymous No.8651458]

Classic Starmie
- Surf
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam

Got me through Stadium unscathed.

[Anonymous No.8651460]

>>8650808
this pokemon always looked like a common disposable enemy you'd fight in an jrpg or devilnetta

[Anonymous No.8651464]

>>8651047
how do they reproduce?

[Anonymous No.8651467]

>>8650880
I am going to cheat and also give my non-Pikachu favorite.

[Anonymous No.8651472]

>>8651458
if we're talking Gen I, might as well go big with Blizzard

[Anonymous No.8651481]

>>8651458
Best mon

[Anonymous No.8651487]

>>8651481
so consistently good across gens.
even Knock Off centralization couldn't kill it

[Anonymous No.8651510]

>>8651481
where is that water coming out of? is it creating water? pokemons can create water!?

[Anonymous No.8651546]

>>8651510
Did you think pokemon that use hydro pump were carrying gallons of water in sacks?

[Anonymous No.8651556]

>>8650808
Bug being super effective against poison was pretty nice for it.

[Anonymous No.8651563]

>>8650838
Pin missile on a fast pokemon in a game where critical hits are based on speed and multi-hit attacks will chain crits is at least a little busted. Beedrill has that going for it and nothing else really.

[Anonymous No.8651567]

>>8651458
BALS
TO
THE
WALL

[Anonymous No.8651569]

>>8651426
>>8651446
Aside from earthquake, those moves have low PP and low accuracy.

[Anonymous No.8651586]

>>8651365
A single overlevelled mon with a range of types of attacking move is actually a pretty good strategy for pushing through the campaign in the first two gens. Particularly considering that you can rely on items for recovery in-battle.

[Anonymous No.8651605]

>>8651569
Blizzard had 90 acc in Gen 1.

[Anonymous No.8651612]

Okay but we can all agree that beedrill is shit, right?

[Anonymous No.8651628]

>>8651612
No fuck you. Twineedle is the best bug move in the game, he gets access to agility and swords dance, he has a healing move, he's 4x effective against every grass type except Tangela, he can OHKO most psychic types, how is any of that shit? What? You're too lame and unadventurous to use him and you suck smogon cock so you write him off? Fuck off and die.

[Anonymous No.8651640]

>>8651628
Yeah
Nah

[Anonymous No.8651642]

>>8651605
Oh shit? My mistake.

[Anonymous No.8651650]

I wish I had an angry black pearl in a shell

[Anonymous No.8651683]

>>8651628
This post is a bottled lifetime of rage at being told your favorite pokemon isn't good. Reconsider what that means.

[Anonymous No.8651690]

>>8650808
I like its mega evolution. It is probably the only new redesign I would say is a complete improvement over the originals which I have a heavy bias for. That is what regular Beedrill should have been the whole time stats, design and all.

[Anonymous No.8651698]

>>8651683
Go jump in front of traffic nigger

[Anonymous No.8651702]

>>8651690
>mega evolution

NOT

RETRO

All jokes aside, I was pretty miffed when I watched the fairly faithful Pokémon Origins only to have it end with some non-retro mega evolution bullshit. That shit wasn't in Red and Blue, you stupid bastards.

[Anonymous No.8651704]

>>8651650
is it supposed to look like a vagina

[Anonymous No.8651709]

>>8651702
I don't really get the mega shit either and its clear it was only really being used for certain mons only. Also it was a popularity contest since why did Pokemon like Mewtwo and Charizard get to have two forms while most of the other ones did not? Plus not all of them ever got it so we won't ever get to see mega forms for the vast majority of the pokemon.

[Anonymous No.8651710]

>>8651702
Origins isn't based on the original Red and Blue anyway. It's based on the GBA remakes and also disregards the fact that Red was intended to have Bulbasaur as his starter in the original gen 1 promo art because Charizard can't get shilled enough.

[Anonymous No.8651718]

>>8651710
Good info. Unfortunately it makes me more annoyed, not less.

[Anonymous No.8651720]

Rom hack that gives beedrill super OP stats but doesn't change anything else

[Anonymous No.8651725]

>>8651718
Don't worry, it annoys me, too.

[Anonymous No.8651728]

>>8651702
I thought Origins was pretty tight.

[Anonymous No.8651731]

>>8651720
Wouldn't it be more fun if it was just bumped up to useable stats? Your pokémon already get boosted to OP by badges.

[Anonymous No.8651735]

>>8651704
maybe

[Anonymous No.8651739]

>>8651728
Yeah me too, I'd have liked to see them flesh out all the between-episode content they outlined in montages/flashbacks. That's why I was so irked by the (NOT RETRO) ending.

[Anonymous No.8651740]

>>8651735
I saw this in Polished Crystal and thought they added that in, but nope it really was in HGSS.

[Anonymous No.8651742]

>>8651704
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Cloyster_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Cloyster_looks_like_a_vagina

there are some other gems on this page too

[Anonymous No.8651743]

Dittobros...

[Anonymous No.8651748]

>>8651728
I thought it had some of the cheesiest writing ever. Red was a very annoying protagonist, too.

[Anonymous No.8651749]

>>8651742
>Political Correctness Gone Mad?
lol

[Anonymous No.8651773]

>>8651612
I like Beedrill.

[Anonymous No.8651775]

>>8651773
Based

[Anonymous No.8651785]

>>8651310
i love new pasta yum

[Anonymous No.8651817]

>>8651785
Thanks! It was true though. Anyway, feel free to use it as a pasta, I wonder if this is capable of spreading somewhat.

[Anonymous No.8651821]

best pokemon in gen 1 AND 2 games. you know it, i know it. shut the fuck up niggers.

[Anonymous No.8651832]

>>8651817
/o/ will appreciate it im sure, ill do my damndest to turn your emotional meltdown into a pasta.

[Anonymous No.8651846]

>>8651821
Very based, I've always loved both Kadabra and Zam

[Anonymous No.8651851]

>>8651310
>>8651395
Blah blah I didn't even read your shit but I get your problem.
My advice is 1. don't get advice from 4chan
2. do cardio everyday. Run or whatever. Like 15 minutes at least. Do this and you'll improve mood-wise.
3. People say ti all the time to just "do" the stuff you want to do but cant' Shower, study, exercise, eat right whatever. It's hard at first, but thoughts and feelings follow actions, and actions can follow thoughts and feelings too. Actions are the only thing you can control so when the machine is out of whack you have to restart it that way, and it stinks.

But it's either that or just laze around till you die lmao.

Anyways, I'd have to say my favorite was huanter. I like the floating hands. Gengar was a real powerhouse though. Scyther was also cool. Sandshrew as well. Pokemon that can roll into balls are underrated.

[Anonymous No.8651853]

>>8651832
You unironically caught my attention. Please, send updates if people there like it.

[Anonymous No.8651858]

>>8651821
Gen 2 movement
>psychic
>thunder punch
>ice punch
>fire punch

[Anonymous No.8651863]

>>8651851
>My advice is 1. don't get advice from 4chan

Now I don't know what to think of this. But thanks for your post. I tried all that a long ago. I'm gonna give me time to think, maybe come up with new ideas.

[Anonymous No.8651909]

I like these /vr/ pokemon threads we've been having

[Anonymous No.8651917]

>>8651821
>dies to beedrill
How embarrassing

[Anonymous No.8651931]

>>8651821
FUCK trade evos

[Anonymous No.8651937]

>>8651917
beedrill is half the speed of alakazam. sorry man beedrill just fucking sucks. BUTTERFREE has more use.

[Anonymous No.8651938]

>>8651937
I have literally killed Alakazams on Pokémon showdown before, multiple times. You haven't. You have no room to talk. Butterfree could never do that, it doesn't even learn any bug moves and it doesn't have physical attack or any stat boost moves.

[Anonymous No.8651940]

>>8651937
*has half Alakazam's speed*
*headbutts him to death*

[Anonymous No.8652030]

>>8650808
Benisdrill

[Anonymous No.8652036]

>>8651938
Beedrill cannot survive a psychic from alakazam. Tauros, persian and snorlax are your best bets

[Anonymous No.8652039]

>>8651749
He’s right you know

[Anonymous No.8652040]

>>8651938
>showdown player is an autistic tryhard
No surprises there

[Anonymous No.8652047]

>>8652036
So don't get hit by a psychic.

>>8652040
Show me another way to play gen 1 online if showdown triggers you so much

[Anonymous No.8652049]

>8652047
>Show me another way to play gen 1 online
Bad bait

[Anonymous No.8652051]

>8652049
I'm being sincere, but okay. No (you) for you either.

[Anonymous No.8652053]

>>8652047
>So don't get hit by a psychic.
Retard

[Anonymous No.8652058]

>>8652053
What, you don't know how to stall or cripe a pokemon? You just take it as a foregone conclusion you will always get attacked?

[Anonymous No.8652059]

>>8651735
>cloyster

[Anonymous No.8652060]

>8652051
So you're just an ignorant retard then?

[Anonymous No.8652064]

>>8652058
This is just embarrassing

[Anonymous No.8652067]

>>8651735
>cloyster (male)

[Anonymous No.8652069]

>>8652064
You can't argue with my results, I've actually won with beedrill multiple time.
>8652060
The sheer arrogance of accusing others of bait

[Anonymous No.8652070]

>>8652069
I don't care. If you want to talk about Shitdown you can fuck off to /vp/

[Anonymous No.8652074]

>anon doesn't know about emulators with netplay
yikes

[Anonymous No.8652079]

>>8652070
I don't particularly care to talk about it. This is a gen 1 thread. I only brought it up because competitive was mentioned and that's where most gen 1 competitive is today, it's purely a tangent. If you don't like it just ignore it, it's not like this is a showdown thread or that I have any intention of making it one.

[Anonymous No.8652083]

>>8652074
Yes yes, I used to play Stadium and RBY with netplay. It's fun every now and then but takes too long to set up and obviously there aren't a lot of dedicated players for it.

[Anonymous No.8652113]

>>8652079
Then shut up

[Anonymous No.8652126]

>>8652113
No, because people are objectively wrong about beedrill not being able to take out alakazam in competitive when I have done it multiple times

[Anonymous No.8652134]

>>8652126
You and your opponent are down to one Pokemon each. You have a beedrill and they have an alakazam. You select twineedle, they select psychic. Your beedrill, even though it was at full health, gets knocked out by alakazam's psychic.

[Anonymous No.8652138]

>>8652134
No shit, the fastest Pokémon with a OHKO would always win in a vacuum like that. In a real battle there are ways to cripple your opponent's strongest Pokémon and you'd be retarded not to.

[Anonymous No.8652140]

>>8652126
>>8652138
The only way this could possibly happen is if the person you're playing switches into a Beedrill's Twineedle with an Alakazam, which no non-retard would ever do. So, either you're lying, or you only play retards on Showdown.

[Anonymous No.8652146]

>>8652138
Paralyzed Zam is still faster than Beedrill
Stop lying on the internet

[Anonymous No.8652170]

>>8652146
That's not fucking true. Paralysis is a 75% decrease in gen 1. A maxed stat Alakazam would have a speed of 93, Beedrill would be 273 maxed out. Don't say stupid shit like this when you don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.8652173]

>>8651938
this guy sure loves beedrill huh

[Anonymous No.8652175]

>>8652173
You're damn straight

[Anonymous No.8652370]

>>8650808
Alakazam and Nidoking are the obvious answers imo

[Anonymous No.8652385]

>>8652175
If you truly loved Beedrill you wouldn't care how competitively viable it is, and you wouldn't sperg out whenever someone points out that Alakazam may be better than Beedrill.

[Anonymous No.8652405]

>local beedrill fan has an inferiority complex

[Anonymous No.8652420]

>>8650940
As kids we'd stack parties of Mewtwo and Alakazams (because why wouldn't you use all-tanks that can obliterate most things with psychic and recover its own HP), so it was fun to teach flash to all my Alakazams, blind my friend's psychics, then whip out Beedrill to deliver a Pin Missile coup-de-grace

[Anonymous No.8652434]

>>8652420
B-B-B-BUT ACCURACY AFFECTING MOVES ARE BANNED IN COMPETITIVE PLAY :(

[Anonymous No.8652435]

>>8651215
The superior of the two Hitmos

[Anonymous No.8652461]

>>8652385
I don't even play competitive very often in before some fag says "we can tell". I love Beedrill mostly as a solo pokemon when playing Red and just as my buddy because I love his aesthetic. I do think he's underrated and I get defensive because nobody understands how awesome he is.

[Anonymous No.8652509]

For me, it's Pinsir

[Anonymous No.8652520]

>>8650808
I literally based my OC on Beedrill.
I fucking hate bees irl

[Anonymous No.8652521]

[Anonymous No.8652554]

>>8652461
>I don't even play competitive very often
yeah we can tell that bro

[Anonymous No.8652560]

>>8652554
I'll still kick your ass with beedrill

[Anonymous No.8652569]

Sorry kids, but there's just no beating the King of K-K-K-KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.8652571]

>>8652560
not if you aren't playing competitive, you silly bastard

[Anonymous No.8652751]

Well all I gathered from this thread is alakazam is objectively better than beedrill and OP is sped

[Anonymous No.8652849]

Most underrated gen1 mon coming through

>unique and awesome mix of Ice and Psy
>can take on Bruno and Lance without breaking a TM (Ice Punch is MORE than enough against Lance)

>can only be caught wild in the third Japanese version or if you import it from gen2

[Anonymous No.8652874]

>>8652849
Oh no, it's Nigger Cher...

[Anonymous No.8652881]

>game filled with 151 monsters
>somehow my favorite was a bird

Idk man

[Anonymous No.8653002]

>>8652751
I learned that if you're very serious about pokemon that you call Alakazam "Zam"

[Shelf No.8653019]

its not a so good/OP pokémon. thats my opinion.

[Anonymous No.8653352]

>>8653002
>Zam

[Anonymous No.8653558]

>>8651628
>Twineedle is the best bug move in the game
Not hard to do when its only competition is Leech Life and Pin Missile.

[Anonymous No.8653612]

>>8652049
>>8652051
C'mon, bro! Give them their (you): >>8652047 >>8652049

[Anonymous No.8653735]

How was Brock ever supposed to be a challenge in Red and Blue? Even if you got a Charmander you could just spam ember and do significant damage due to their awful special stat, I don't even think giving him more Pokémon with wide movesets would help (ie Fire Blast on Geodude to counter Bulbasaur) due to how awful rock type was.

>>8651605
Ironically, Blizzard got hit the hardest in subsequent generations. I think it even had its base power reduced to 110 from 120. I feel the same about Hyper Beam, in gen 1 it had the bonus of not requiring a recharge if you KO the target, but gen 2 onwards made it always require a recharge, making it a bit of a useless move.

[Anonymous No.8653793]

>>8650885
>Beedrill's special is too low
And Golem's special defense is an incredible 65!

4x weakness nigger, your faggot Golem is cucked by a bee every time.

[Anonymous No.8653830]

>>8650995
That Growlithe's face always gets me

[Anonymous No.8653843]

>>8653793
Doing some quick math, the only way a beedrill can ohko a golem is if has the absolute lowest special and if it's HP isn't maxed - assuming the HP and special is maxed, it'd be a three hit KO without criticals.

[Anonymous No.8653857]

>>8653843
Oh, I didn't take gen I mechanics into consideration, that's why I mentioned sp. defense.

[Anonymous No.8653860]

>>8653857
gen one thread buddy

[Anonymous No.8653940]

>>8651510
Yes you dumb motherfucker. They summon literal tidal waves.

[Anonymous No.8653942]

>>8651464
They don't, why do you think there are only two of them in Gen 1?

[Anonymous No.8653971]

>>8653860
I didn't grow up with it so I have 0 nostalgia for it and think the remakes are better in absolutely every way.

Only Crystal has got me going from the first two gens.

[Anonymous No.8654014]

>>8653971
doesn't really change what I said though does it

[Anonymous No.8654026]

>>8654014
I never said it did, you double nigger.

[Anonymous No.8654048]

>>8650808
Damn, this guy is still way cool 30 years later. Just look at him, jesus.

[Anonymous No.8654092]

Yikes

[Anonymous No.8654247]

>>8653793
>>8653857
Golem's special in Gen 1 is even lower, just 55

[Anonymous No.8654448]

>>8653971
>the remakes are better in absolutely every way.
Except for music, atmosphere, soul, geographical aesthetics, and the extra fun you can get from abusing bugs and glitches. FRLG are just boring, Emerald is the only worthwhile gen 3 game. And before you call me nostalgic, I'm actually a zoomer born in '02 who got into the series at XY.

[Anonymous No.8654523]

>>8654247
I done my calculations with that stat in mind. That being said, in gen 1 you'll want to pump the special stat as much as you can, for golem I'd put defense and speed as low priorities since 1) no one will willingly use physical attacks against it, 2) even if they did, it has insane defense, and 3) it cannot outun any threat except snorlax (who can learn surf) so you might as well not even bother.

[Anonymous No.8654550]

>>8650808
The best pokeymans was Hitmonlee because he looked the coolest. Who care about autistic hidden stats. If your mon looks gay then none of that shit matters. Debate me fagboys

[Anonymous No.8654557]

>>8654026
whatever you say bro

[Anonymous No.8654572]

>>8650839
>252+ SpA Beedrill Mega Drain vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Golem: 108-128 (29.6 - 35.1%) -- 14.3% chance to 3HKO
Beedrill bros... not like this

[Anonymous No.8654582]

>>8650808
Bug pokemon unite.

[Anonymous No.8654773]

>>8651449
I was always a Pidgeotfag, but I finally got myself a new Pokemon Blue and played through it the last month. I went with Fearow this time and he didn't disappoint.

[Anonymous No.8654803]

>>8654448
Not even emerald is worthwhile

[Anonymous No.8654812]

>>8654803
Honestly none of them are truly worthwhile

[Anonymous No.8654828]

>>8654773
Fearow's big draw is Drill Peck, which is the strongest single turn Flying move that only it and Zapdos learn. Drill Peck would stay one of the best flying type moves until some generations later, gen 2 introduces the Lugia exclusive Aeroblast and gen 3 introduces Aerial Ace, basically a flying type version of Swift.

[Anonymous No.8654838]

>>8654582
Yo. Bug/Poison is a great thing.

[Anonymous No.8654849]

Literally any pyscic type bodies most of gen one.

Except Jynx... fire weakness is a death sentence.

[Anonymous No.8654851]

>>8653735
>How was Brock ever supposed to be a challenge in Red and Blue?
You mean the first boss in a game literally designed for 5 year olds? I don't think it was meant to be a challenge anon.

[Anonymous No.8654854]

>>8654851
Fucking nerfed onix tho

[Anonymous No.8654874]

>>8651458
I loved that Starmie just learned so many weird moves for it, plus Recover. Misty being weirdly difficult for her place in the game was my first hint to look into getting Staryu and I'm glad I did.

[Anonymous No.8654879]

>>8653735
Brock isn't supposed to be challenging, it's supposed to teach you something about types to make absolutely certain you weren't punching through things with Normal moves still. It's just a failed lesson if you picked 2 of the starters because most people learn "wow Rock pokemon are awful" instead of anything about matchups.

[Anonymous No.8654917]

>>8654851
could've at least gave him a rock move.

[Anonymous No.8654946]

>>8654917
That would have flatlined charmander players because they otherwise still get through it with fire attacks, but wouldn't if Brock was hitting SE on them.

[Anonymous No.8654993]

I never understood the point of non-attack moves in Pokemon, and I still don't. Death is the only status effect I care about inflicting.

[Anonymous No.8655006]

>>8654993
I don't think Pokemon's your game then, Anon. Most you can do is make them faint.

[Anonymous No.8655018]

>>8655006
You know what I mean. It's close enough.

[Anonymous No.8655026]

>>8654993
Preventing the opponents Pokémon from inflicting death status on you first is kinda important anon

[Anonymous No.8655065]

>>8655026
That's achieved by hitting hard and hitting first.

[Anonymous No.8655194]

>>8655065
And we've established in this thread that big 'zam wipes the floor with beedrill in both of those respects.

[Anonymous No.8655204]

>>8655194
I was never arguing for the bee, though I always liked the design. Psychics should have always been overpowered. It's better than the current meta where Dragon is overpowered.

[Anonymous No.8655208]

>>8654993
How many attacks does it take to wipe a team? If it's taking you more than 1 per pokemon, status moves would have helped you do it faster. Swords Dance for example will have all subsequent attacks be doing 2x normal, so will Amnesia in Gen 1.

[Anonymous No.8655220]

>>8655204
Oh I know, I'm just indirectly ribbing OP via you. He loves beedrill, bless him.

[Anonymous No.8655237]

I never had anyone to trade with. I've never owned a Gengar, my favorite Pokemon from the beginning, to this day. I don't play modern Pokemon games, though. How would I get trade evos in gen 1 on an emulator, or the mons from the opposite version, even? Glitches?

[Anonymous No.8655245]

>>8655204
>It's better than the current meta where Dragon is overpowered.
have you been in a coma the last 10 years?
>>8655237
you can use the universal pokemon randomizer and just change trade evos, the gen 1 ones make em level evos.

[Anonymous No.8655251]

>>8655245
Faggot type didn't really cockblock Dragon the way it was intended to.

[Anonymous No.8655261]

>>8655251
well admittedly i don't really do comp but idk they have been minmaxin some from what i heard, like this guy for instance

[Anonymous No.8655262]

>>8655237
I used an emulator on my phone a couple of years ago that let you run multiple games at once and trade between them. I got all 251 that way, only used one cheat code.

Can't remember what the emulator was called, that would be far too helpful.

[Anonymous No.8655265]

>>8655261
have been doin some*

[Anonymous No.8655274]

>>8655245
>>8655262
I'll look into these options, thanks. You know, I actually think Haunter's G1 sprite looks cooler than Gengar's, it's just in every other medium that I prefer Gengar's design.

[Anonymous No.8655367]

>>8655237
There's romhacks for every single game in the series that account for single players and make all pokemon available and give alternative ways to evolve the trade evolutions. That's easier than fucking around trying to trade between multiple emulated games.

[Anonymous No.8655373]

>>8655367
However, it's much less soulful than playing on original hardware

[Anonymous No.8655376]

>>8655373
I realize now that I need to add "original hardware" to my wordfilter.

[Anonymous No.8655403]

>>8655367
Speaking of ROM hacks, are there any hacks like Crystal clear for the first gen? Or at least a hack that has enemy trainers have Pokémon with the same level as yours?

[Anonymous No.8655414]

>>8655403
>SHOCKSLAYER presents

[Anonymous No.8656374]

>>8654993
Status moved are super useful when your playing against another human being instead of a bot. You can set out stage hazards that affect the opponent as they switch in to give yourself an advantage, and you can power your stats up mid battle so that you can tank hits and/or sweep the opponent's team for the rest of the fight. If you just unga bunga your way through then you're just gonna lose. Fortunately for you, the ai in Pokemon games are dumb as shit so you can play like an idiot and still win. Just remember that actual people are a different story.

[Anonymous No.8656387]

>>8654993
Inflicting paralysis lowers the speed of your opponent, burning them lowers their attack, and using toxic can help you take out the tankier mons. Status moves that buff stats are super useful, too. Calm mind for example can make a psychic type very op within a couple turns.

[Anonymous No.8656395]

>>8655237
You can use Pokémon stadium emulated on an N64 with a transfer pak to trade between your roms

[Anonymous No.8656612]

>>8650995
>Squirtle only lvl 12 at the end of Mt. Moon
>Oddish in team
>rival challenges you at the exit of Mt. Moon
>rival has Growlithe at lvl 26 in team
The artist never played Pokemon, did he.

[Anonymous No.8656618]

r8 my go-to non-comp gen1 team
>Charizard
>Dodrio
>Poliwrath
>Nidoking
>Jynx
>Electabuzz

[Anonymous No.8656652]

>>8656612
It's an exaggeration, you nerd

[Anonymous No.8656657]

>>8656612
This type of non sarcastic, autistic reply to what is obviously a satirical cartoon is what keeps me coming back.
>>8656652
SHHHH let him be.

[Anonymous No.8656906]

>>8656618
Thats a based team anon.

[Anonymous No.8656969]

>>8656374
There are some status moves that are so powerful you'd be a fool not to use. Two of them are Amnesia (gen 1 at least) and Thunder Wave. Hell even giving them to AI trainers is a good idea as there's a chance they'll use them.

[Anonymous No.8656986]

>>8656618
>Electabuzz
My man. Can't play Pokemon without it.

[Anonymous No.8657112]

>>8650808
RNG to be useful is shit
>>8650903
would be good if ghost and poison were not considered physical and has a shit physical stat
>>8650904
good choice
>>8650970
might be good if not for poor moveset and shit RNG status effects
>>8651047
Another good choice
>>8651215
a little late in the game naturally, but better than chan
>>8651229
fuckyeahmotherfucker
>>8651363
too late in the game
>>8651449
acceptable as i tried it recently with a firered run, adamant 3 catches in
>>8651467
poor moveset
>>8651481
too late in the game
>>8651650
poor moveset
>>8651821
>i bought a second gameboy and a second cart to trade with myself mon
i did it too
>>8652849
also very good. i savescummed gen3 for a modest one almost everytime

[Anonymous No.8657118]

>>8657112

[Anonymous No.8657248]

>>8656969
Growth was very broken in gen 1 since there was only one special stat.

[Anonymous No.8657531]

I never beat Blue. My Blastoise was the only Pokemon I leveled. I made it all the way to the final fight with my rival, but that was a wall my Blastoise just couldn't overcome.

[Anonymous No.8657626]

>>8654993
Sleep is super useful in Gen 1, since it lasts way longer. Paralysis is great against human players, not only for giving a chance to lose a turn, but also because it slows them down significantly. Regular poison is kinda pointless, but Toxic can be powerful in later games. You can do the Toxic + Leech Seed bug in Gen 1, but it's not that useful against a human opponent (they just have to switch out and it becomes regular poison). Giving a weak status like Poison is actually giving your opponent an advantage too, because status effects can't overwrite each other in Gen 1. Meaning if you're poisoned, you can't be paralyzed or put to sleep.

[Anonymous No.8657642]

>>8657626
All I know is I loved using Toxic in Sun+Moon. It delighted me to watch my opponents rapidly succumb to it, powerless to stop it. It kind of got me hard a couple of times and I don't want to ruminate on that.

[Anonymous No.8657661]

>>8652849
>Hilarious blackface and the most based typing mix available...all in an exp boosted format for a shitty poliwhirl.
There is no other choice.....except maybe slowbro because he's a literal retard and would fit right in around here.

[Anonymous No.8657718]

>>8656612
>fucking secondaries
It's the Pokemon equivalent of that FFVI image where Sabin, Edgar, and Locke are fighting the Phantom Train, and Sabin selects his Blitz from a menu.

[Anonymous No.8657738]

>>8657642
>rapidly succumb
>minimum of six (6) turns

[Anonymous No.8657801]

>>8650903
love gengar's design but he sucks major ass in gen1/2

[Anonymous No.8657809]

>>8657801
I'm beginning to suspect people are just posting obviously incorrect things itt in order to satisfy their dopamine addiction.

[Anonymous No.8657821]

>>8650904

I love Azumarill in gen3+ for the same reason. It's like a Gyarados you can even earlier in the game.

[Anonymous No.8658468]

>>8657809
kek, you singlehandedly killed this fake commie thread.

[Anonymous No.8658791]

>>8650904
It's also the fastest user of a OHKO move in the game. Which is relevant because for some reason they autofail if your speed is lower in gen 1. Bonus gen 1 jank: 30 accuracy becomes 100 after 1 X accuracy. The single player game is already super easy, but Nidoking is weirdly dominant at beating the absolute shit out of it.

[Anonymous No.8659823]

>>8650808
Doesn't even have real drills, just shitty smooth cones. Lame.

[Anonymous No.8660817]

>>8650808
Snorlax with explosion.
That STAB damage bro.

[Anonymous No.8660825]

>>8650808
His name should be Waspcone
Or Hornetcone.
Its not a bee or have drills.

[Anonymous No.8662125]

>>8660817
Snorlax can't learn Explosion, only Selfdestruct (through TM)
Just imagine though

[Anonymous No.8663002]

>playing my copy of Blue in Stadium
>going back and forth between the Game Boy Tower and the lab to move shit around
>get to the menu of Blue
>FILE DATA WAS DESTROYED
>what the fuck
>go back into Stadium and the lab
>reads everything fine
>go back into the tower
>says it again
>repeat once more
>it's fine and my shit is still there
I backed that shit up right fucking after. Checked the save in mgba and it worked fine. Holy shit did that scare me though. I'm guessing the battery might be on its last legs