STLD General

[Anonymous No.8641347]

Scalers, Transcoders and Line Doublers general

Why would I play with optimized sampling when it ruins the 4:3 aspect ratio?

Also what are your best scanline settings?

[Anonymous No.8642178]

bump

[Anonymous No.8642501]

What does the OSSC have over Retrotink? What does the Framemeister have over Retrotink?

[Anonymous No.8642664]

>>8642501
Nothing. Get your 5x Pro and enjoy retro games in a whole new way today.

[Anonymous No.8642718]

>>8642664
The ossc is still good for 240p and vga content. But I do prefer to use the tink5x.
Also the crt filter are great to play around with.

[Anonymous No.8642871]

Wish the retrotink supported 1080p input just for playing movies and wasn't chroma limited or whatever for 720p and up. just seems like stuff he could have included but neglected to.

[Anonymous No.8642914]

>>8642718
I'd rather keep my $900 Framemeister, thank you.

[Anonymous No.8642958]

>>8642914
Yes, my wives boyfriend also promised to allow me to buy one.

[Anonymous No.8643184]

>>8641347
Tinkies will never know how good my Dreamcast looks line doubled over VGA on my OLED.
It's seriously unreal. I tried taking pictures but they just do not do it justice (like taking pics of a PVM).
Good thing they got S-Video, though, r-right?
kek

[Anonymous No.8643354]

>>8643184
You will not believe how good it looks on the tink with 1440p. You really miss out mate. Just buy a good 30k scart cable and your good to go.

[Anonymous No.8643368]

Has anyone tried the retrotink 5x on an oled?

[Anonymous No.8643568]

Can the GBS-C display Dreamcast with the proper aspect-ratio?

I need a scaler for PS2, Dreamcast and maybe Mega Drive. OSSC is not good with 480i and I'm not gonna play more thant 150€ for a scaler.

[Anonymous No.8643703]

>>8643368
I use it on my C1, looks great to me.

The only issue I've encountered is that 1200p and 1440p show a slight glow in black areas. I can only really notice it when the screen is mostly black and the room is dark. 1080p gives perfect black levels

[Anonymous No.8643712]

So far the only negative with the tink is that when you update the firmware it wipes your profiles. New firmware is released fairly often so I just wait until an update contains something significant like the recent 720p support.

[Anonymous No.8643736]

>>8643712
Do you know a good solution for connecting hdmi to the tink?
Would love to run my pstv through it.

[Anonymous No.8645391]

>>8643736
Porta makes very nice converters with little lag.

[Anonymous No.8645496]

>>8642871
>just seems like stuff he could have included but neglected to.
That's pretty much Mike's attitude when it comes to products
>you don't need <feature>, why would you need this?
>composite is fine
>you wont notice 4-6ms of lag anyway

[Anonymous No.8646515]

gbsc chads

[Anonymous No.8646772]

Why do people bash the 5X on having "16ms" of lag when Frame Lock exists to cap it out at 4ms?

[Anonymous No.8646987]

>>8643184
I have a vga scart cable for my Dreamcast into my 5x

[Anonymous No.8646996]

>>8646772
Just poor people that can't justify to pay for it. But also Mike is an asshat for not just enable a true low lag mode (not a priority for him).

[Anonymous No.8647005]

>>8646996
He said in his last video with chunky rgb that people were asking for it and it's something he going to work on.

[Anonymous No.8647018]

>>8647005
Don't get me wrong I love my 5x.
It has some truly good options, like cropping and scaling that but the framemeister at shame.

[Anonymous No.8647080]

Buy a Framemeister

[Anonymous No.8647087]

>>8647080
Having a hard time selling your overpriced junk on eBay?
Nobody needs a framemeister anymore.

[Anonymous No.8647140]

>>8647087
I sold mine earlier this year for more than I paid for it. You mad?

[Anonymous No.8647143]

>>8642501
Motion adaptive deinterlacing is better on the Framemeister. 5X handles resolution switching better than either. Framemeister has composite and S-Video inputs, HDMI pass through. OSSC has problems with certain displays.

[Anonymous No.8647192]

>>8647143
>Motion adaptive deinterlacing is better on the Framemeister.

It's glitchy on games no matter what you use.

[Anonymous No.8647207]

>>8643568
Yeah, works fine for me. I believe you have to enable scaling of VGA in the settings, though, as by default it has it set to pass-through.

[Anonymous No.8647224]

Anyone complaining about 4 ms of output latency has no idea what they're talking about, or should just be playing on a CRT and never even touch a flat panel or scaler of any kind.

[Anonymous No.8647256]

>>8647143
>Framemeister has composite and S-Video inputs
doesn't 'Tink have that too?

[Anonymous No.8647257]

>>8647256
Yeah it does. You can also switch between rgb and composite on the same scart cable, useful for some games and filters.

[Anonymous No.8648878]

Spending more time with my 5x and coming to the conclusion that motion adaptive deinterlacing is based and makes bob unbearable to use with 481 signals

[Anonymous No.8649823]

>>8643568
If you mean with VGA cables, I doubt it. I tried with some cheap after market Gam3geek cables on Amazon, and though it worked fine with my Dsub port on my monitor, it flipped the fuck out when I tried plugging into the GBS-C’s vga input. Haven’t tried it with Retroaccess’s SCART input cables, but I assume your only options are 4:3 or 16:9

[Anonymous No.8650637]

>>8641347
For me it's Easycel.

[Anonymous No.8650646]

Still just using my Retrotink 2X pro plugged into the capture card.
>>8643184
I have the Gekko from Behar Bros for my Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.8651572]

>>8650646
I think you'll be fine and wont have much to worry about if you're playing older consoles from the 5th gen or below. I love the 5X but I didn't really see much of a difference at higher resolutions, and the PS2 looks like shit no matter what.

[Anonymous No.8651763]

So there are two upcoming video games scalers in the works, the OSSC Pro and the PixelFX Morph. With the added functionality and improvements that the Retrotink5x has seen since its release, is there even any point to these products anymore? They're going to be priced higher too. I don't want to come off like a Retrotink shill, I legitimately want to know what you guys think these other scalers would have to bring to the table to make them viable alternatives?

[Anonymous No.8651820]

>>8651763
With the OSSC, I guess the added bonus should be that it is theoretically customizable like crazy, and the PixelFX...I guess it has BNC for the people that for some reason have it.
Really they should all be functionally pretty close enough that in case one product is out of stock, you could grab the other and probably not have to worry about much. Or they'll have their own weird quirks like downscaling.

[Anonymous No.8651894]

>>8651763
the morph, from what I gather, seems to be a more integrated setup for consoles. they have that infinity switch thing that should make having a dedicated game setup more automated.
Honestly I don't see the point in upgrading to any new scaler from the OSSC until they can do 4k.

[Anonymous No.8652371]

>>8651763
hdmi in

[Anonymous No.8652430]

>>8652371
This. Hdmi in + comp/scart out would make for the perfect all in one device for both downscaling and upscaling. I really want to play Sonic Mania on my crt. It'd be a bonus for me if it had passthrough for scart as well because then my crt + stream capture setup would be much simpler. As an upscaler though I really don't need anything more.

[Anonymous No.8652768]

chink ossc from ali is good?

[Anonymous No.8652772]

RTX5 Direct - any news?

[Anonymous No.8652990]

>>8652768
I have one. They function exactly the same, but the build quality of the individual materials is definitely lower because of cheaper sourced parts. The backlight on my screen broke without any force not long after getting it due to not being soldered correctly from whatever chink factory it got shat out from. I'd say it's mostly fine though. Just keep in mind that it's a device that you're going to be fiddling around with a lot anyway.

[Anonymous No.8654045]

>>8642501
Framemeister has more lag

[Anonymous No.8654063]

>>8654045
>Framemeister has more fag's

[Anonymous No.8654110]

>>8654045
That's it? Not more options or effects or something?

[Anonymous No.8654268]

>>8654110
It was the first upscaler to have motion adaptive de-interlacing compared to bob-only on the OSSC.

[Anonymous No.8654640]

>>8646772
It's literally one schizoposter bitching about it in every thread.

[Anonymous No.8654781]

Just buildt this
How important are the 10mf caps around the image processor? I don't have any so I didn't do it.

[Anonymous No.8654814]

>>8654268
It predates the OSSC by several years

[Anonymous No.8655202]

>>8654781
After testing, it seems fine without them or I don't notice any issues.
But there is a lot of problems with pass-through, at least 1080i from my ps2, it has like artifacts and looks generally btfo.
I think that may be what the extra capacitors do, but I also haven't tried any rgb inputs yet

[Anonymous No.8655354]

>>8654781
>she fell for the gbs console meme

[Anonymous No.8655475]

>>8642178
Looks like shit, sorry anon

[Anonymous No.8655556]

>>8655354
no its only a meme if you don't already have everything else to build it and use it.
Like for $100 you can just get a ossc which has a power supply and hdmi out.
For $47 on amazon you get the three basic parts to make the gbs-c. You get just vga out and you gotta cut up a USB cable to power it.
but if you have to start buying stuff like a $14 vga to hdmi converter, some other kind of power solution, like any tools or other bits, you're better off just buying a ossc then.

It was really fun to make it too :)

[Anonymous No.8655587]

Cheapest OSSC that's up to spec costs 175€ in EU. (Without shipping)
GBS-C parts amount to ~100€ here. (80€ if you you dont care about waiting 2 weeks for thr board to arrive).
If you consider the GBS-C you will probably have a soldering iron anyway.
+ It has motion adaptic deinterlacing.

[Anonymous No.8655598]

>>8655587
Wtf why is the EU so expensive
Are the ossc clones on aliexpress not up to spec? I just figured who cares when you're comparing it with a gbs 8200 with a microcontroller hot glued to the side of it
Also I wouldn't suggest just any soldering iron.
You'll probably be fine with any iron that at least has temp control and a decent tip but I would have struggled without my ils tip for some of it I think.

[Anonymous No.8655613]

>>8655598
Chip shortage and our competitive market pushing up prices because importing outside of the EU will set you back hard nowadays.

I paid 5 euros to import two magazines from the UK, TWO MAGAZINES.

[Anonymous No.8655720]

>>8655613
If you mean 5 euro just for shipping that really isn't bad, I used to import certain stuff from Japan and while most of the time they didn't have any shipping costs, a lot of the time I had to pay custom duties which always was at least 15 euros or more despite the package hardly being so big

[Anonymous No.8655742]

>>8655720
Thats import tax, shipping was like 2 euros.

[Anonymous No.8655863]

>>8655556
>It was really fun to make it too :)

link tutorial?

[Anonymous No.8656215]

>>8641347
>Why would I play with optimized sampling when it ruins the 4:3 aspect ratio?
Still hoping someone can answer this question.

[Anonymous No.8656218]

>>8655587
Damn, It was literally cheaper for me as an American to buy a OSSC from VGP than the ones on eBay cost. VAT really fucks you guys.

[Anonymous No.8656236]

>>8656218
I guess upon further inspection they're pretty similar in price on ebay but you don't have to worry about getting chinked.

[Anonymous No.8656475]

>>8655863
I just followed along Voultar's video

[Anonymous No.8656526]

>>8654781
>>8655202
the wiki lists what their purpose is, so, yeah.

[Anonymous No.8657651]

>>8646515
What does this chinese garbage have over say,
>>8650637
this chinese garbage?

[Anonymous No.8657878]

>>8657651
actually good video quality https://youtu.be/1AVXhiTlmgo?t=2839

[Anonymous No.8658948]

>>8655475
I know you are coping because you're too poor to buy a ossc

[Anonymous No.8659442]

Anyone know how the OSSC behaves with "anamorphic widescreen" games like on the PS2 and Wii?

This is what I got with Radiata Stories in widescreen mode. Is that normal? It's not filling up the whole 16:9 frame

[Anonymous No.8659497]

>>8659442
>This is what I got with Radiata Stories in widescreen mode. Is that normal? It's not filling up the whole 16:9 frame
Yes. OSSC is not a scaler, it's a line doubler. It doesn't have a framebuffer to manipulate the image in that way. You're going to have to use you're displays aspect control to stretch that to 16:9

[Anonymous No.8659519]

>>8659497
>>8659442
>stretch to 16:9
please don't do this

[Anonymous No.8659534]

>>8659519
That's literally how anamorphic widescreen works. You're supposed to use your display to stretch the image out so that it looks "widescreen". Most ps2 games handle it this way. They don't actually give you a proper 16:9 conversion, they just crop the image in. Nearly every ps2 game handles it this way because devs didn't bother to redraw adjusted hud elements for a proper 16:9. There are games that do properly support true widescreen, but the ps2 was quite hamstrung in terms of vram to handle it so devs didn't bother.

[Anonymous No.8659542]

>>8641347
any decent vga to composite converters to use with a radeon card running crt emudriver card?
I was planning to just buy the linuxbot3000 thing but its out of stock and the guy doesn't know when its gonna be back

[Anonymous No.8659543]

>>8641347 (OP)
any decent vga to composite converters to use with a radeon card running crt emudriver?
I was planning to just buy the linuxbot3000 thing but its out of stock and the guy doesn't know when its gonna be back

[Anonymous No.8659559]

Any thoughts on RGB Scart vs Component when it comes to PS2?

[Anonymous No.8659564]

>>8659559
Use whatever is more convenient for your setup. Remember that Component is still analog so cable quality matters just as much as scart. If I could go back and start again I would get component cables for everything but that wasn't possible when I started this stupid expensive hobby.

[Anonymous No.8659570]

>>8659559
Component, SCART connectors are big gay

[Anonymous No.8659912]

What does OSSC have over the others?

[Anonymous No.8660269]

>>8659559
Component, honestly. Just make sure to get good quality cables.

[Anonymous No.8660292]

I want to buy my first upscale but retrostink 5x still expensive as fuck.
everything else is irrelevant because motion adaptive. I will wait for 5x direct, I think. Thank god my bravia support native 240p and does a decent upscale using first party component cable.

[Anonymous No.8661248]

>>8646515
>>8654781
my niggas

it's so good for ps2 and psp

[Anonymous No.8662217]

>>8655556
i'd recommend something like this for power theyre good. I used an adafruit one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Treedix-Type-C-Breakout-Connector-Converter/dp/B098RTB3VJ

>you're better off just buying a ossc then.
ossc isn't simple though the reason I went with this instead was because the ossc requires tweaking and configs for each device you use it gets in the way of actually playing games id rather have something that just works

[Anonymous No.8662307]

I only care about PS2 and Wii/GC
Should I get 5X or wait for OSSC Pro?

[Anonymous No.8662310]

>>8659559
SCART is better

[Anonymous No.8662530]

>>8662217
>ossc requires tweaking and configs for each device you use it gets in the way of actually playing games id rather have something that just works
Don't listen to the optimised profile dorks. Setting everything on generic 4:3 and forgetting looks better than the best from a GBS, but whatever floats your boat.

[Anonymous No.8662962]

>>8662307
i'd wait for the ossc pro

[Anonymous No.8663930]

>>8662217
What's wrong with the default settings on ossc?

[Anonymous No.8664347]

>>8641347
How about Dowscalers?

https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/32896942663.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.7bc7b90abEyey8

[Anonymous No.8664375]

>>8659543
good luck with that, seems that the only way is to make sure your motherboard can allow a second GPU and it fits, and crt emudriver seems to be a pain to set up, also most downscalers nowadays only put out 480p

[Anonymous No.8665401]

My friend gave me his OSSC when he hopped over to the Tink5x and I do like it, but as someone whose primary use case is for playing Saturn on it, the resolution switching is a thorn in my side. I'm almost tempted to just go the way of the GBS-C, mainly because I don't wanna plunk fuckin $300 on a Tink5X. That is, unless there's some kind of wacky method to skirt the resolution switching

[Anonymous No.8665485]

>>8665401
gbs-c into ossc is a good combination

[Anonymous No.8665808]

>>8664375
not looking for a downscaler, already have a pc with a radeon card and crt emudriver set up, I just needed a signal converter
either way the thing I wanted just went back in stock last night
but thanks I guess

[Anonymous No.8665813]

What do I need to plug my pc into the retrotink? the portta hdmi to component adapter I go didn't work

[Anonymous No.8665840]

>>8665401
gbs seems better than ossc for 480i stuff

[Anonymous No.8665845]

>>8662962
agree. also, rtx5 direct will be way more cheap