/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8640716]

There are people posting on this board RIGHT NOW, who LITERALLY, UNIRONICALLY believe that SMB 3 is a better game than Super Mario World. Let that sink in.

[Anonymous No.8640723]

>>8640716
Gonna Cry?

[Anonymous No.8640725]

>>8640723
You're trash, OP.

[Anonymous No.8640752]

>>8640716
SMB3 is the best Mario game. Second only to the original Wario Land. SMW isn't even in my top 20. Also, OP is a fag.

[Anonymous No.8640778]

The only game that rivals those two right now is Canada.

[Anonymous No.8640816]

SMW a shit

[Anonymous No.8640828]

>>8640723
let what sink in? it's true

[Anonymous No.8640837]

Mario 3 is literally unironically better than Mario World though.
>better power-ups
>better level design
>better art direction
>better music
>better enemies
The only thing I'd give Mario World is that it has better boss fights.

[Anonymous No.8640853]

>>8640837
>the Koopalings aren't 200% awesome
Dude.

[Anonymous No.8640963]

>shit is better than turd

[Anonymous No.8640990]

>>8640716
World has better physics but it's too easy to be engaging. If I have to go
>it's better than 3 if you don't spin jump
>or fly over the levels
>or use yoshi
>or use the switch houses
etc. then it doesn't quite stand above.
Meanwhile I can play Mario 3 as it is without handicapping how I play, and it's engaging all the way through.

[Anonymous No.8640996]

>>8640990
Racoon flight is more broken than anything in World.

[Anonymous No.8641010]

>>8640996
Blue Yoshi with double Cape is way more broken and you can farm it for almost 90%+ of the game.

[Anonymous No.8641037]

>>8640716
I assert SMB3 and SMW are equally good. What now, faggot?

[Anonymous No.8641096]

>>8640716
but it is

[Anonymous No.8641258]

>>8640716
I've never played past the first level of SMW. Or any Super NES game.

[Anonymous No.8641284]

>>8640716
Both great games.
You gotta remember that mario 3 was 8bit, SMW was 16bit. From a technical standpoint I'd actually say Mario 3 was more impressive, it was on the same console was the very first Mario game. For the hardware limitations they had it was, and is incredible.
Anyway, both awesome games

[Anonymous No.8641369]

>save whenever
>lives dont matter
>farm powerups as much as you want
>killed off the gauntlet style challenge the originals were designed around
its not even a matter of 3 being better, world is just shit all on its own and the entire reason why every 2d mario that came after is trash.

[Anonymous No.8642561]

>>8641369
This. The DNA of NSMB is distinctly SMW, its mindnumbingly easy, only concerned with plastic pastel backdrops and rote level design. Not an ounce of challenge to be found.

[Anonymous No.8642569]

>>8640716
Based. 3 feels like a weird puberty between 1 and World. World is better.

[Anonymous No.8642571]

>>8640837
/thread
super mario world gives you 20 lives by the first castle and you can fly over all of the poorly designed stages
the graphics look like shitty 90's clip art slapped together into a game as well

[Anonymous No.8642578]

>>8642561
I just beat smb 3d and nu coin smb on 3ds. I had 100+ lives near the end of both games. The 2d coin one was so easy. I don't recall a single hard level apart from using that tiny mushroom power up.

[Anonymous No.8642598]

>smb1
>beat 4 stages in a row without running out of lives and your progress is locked in
>dont have to repeat those stages again

>smb2 (usa)
>beat 3 stages in a row without running out of lives and your progress is locked in
>dont have to repeat those stages again

>smb3
>beat these two stages, then beat either this stage or that stage, doesnt matter which, you can pick
>then beat the fortress and your progress is locked in, dont have to repeat those stages again

>smw
>beat this stage
>go save
>progress is locked in
>repeat
>wait shit, this makes lives totally pointless, what do we do miyamoto-san?
>uhhhhh lets just increase the overall length of stages and add checkpoints
>yep ship it

Super Mario World ruined 2D Mario.

[Anonymous No.8642614]

>trying to stir up shit by comparing the two best by far Mario games
Go to bed, kid. Real retro fans adore both and lament what happened to Mario when Nintendo went style over substance shit 3d with it.

[Anonymous No.8642684]

>>8640828
Let this sink in, anon

[Anonymous No.8642803]

Yup, also grew up on World and not 3. Eat shit OP

[Anonymous No.8643535]

>>8640716
the bosses in 3 are anticlimactic and the mushroom houses and other gimmicks on the world maps feel cheap and pointless. I think world is better. Yes you can fly over some stages, but if you want to get the yoshi coins, then you can't do that and ghost houses, water levels, and castles can't be bypassed that way at all.

[Anonymous No.8643540]

>>8640716
SMB 3 is a better game than Super Mario World and it ain't even a contest.

[Anonymous No.8643543]

Both are masterpieces, but SMW has the best controls, it's the most versatile and swift Mario has ever been, controls-wise. It's no wonder the romhacking scene and kaizo stuff is all centered around SMW.

[Anonymous No.8643548]

>>8640723
FPBP

[Anonymous No.8643592]

>>8640716
SMB3 doesn't revert you to midget Mario when you get hit with a power up.

[Anonymous No.8643616]

>>8642598
using continues is cheating

[Anonymous No.8643628]

I mean, theyre both 10/10. Who gives a fuck if people have a preference? I love mario world the best, but i can see why anyone would like SMB3 more.

[Anonymous No.8643865]

Well yeah
Nintendo emulates SMB3 to this day
SMW remains a romhack distributor

Just accept that SMW is a baby game

[Anonymous No.8643903]

>>8640716
embarrassing

[Anonymous No.8643913]

>>8643592
Japanese version does.

[Anonymous No.8643918]

>>8640716
It does some things better. SMB3 has more variety in settings, more powerups, and an inventory system. It's also much more challenging and has more of a classic Mario feel since it has a lot of classic enemies missing from World like regular goombas and regular hammer bros. Even so I think World is better because it has Yoshi, the big branching overworld, a lot of secret exits, two whole secret worlds, and greater audiovisual fidelity. The last point was rectified by All-Stars but that has ugly palettes, reinteprets some aspects of the environments, and doesn't do the original music justice.

[Anonymous No.8643923]

>>8641369
>save whenever
Technically you have to beat certain levels to be able to say. You are a massive faggot if you don't accept this is objectively better than having to beat the game in one sitting.

[Anonymous No.8644104]

>>8640837
>Mario 3 is literally unironically better

- No Yoshi
- 8-bit graphics, smaller washed-out color palette
- No secret exits
- Shorter levels
- Has flying in game but still primarily focuses on X-axis, World has much better verticality
- No star road with Special Zone expert levels
- Can't replay particular levels without restarting game
- Can't save the game
- Final boss battle is a practice of avoidance, lame
- Generic boss battles in general in comparison to the dynamic ones of World, like the Reznors for example
- Flight and control characteristics of racoon are trivial compared to cape Mario
- No spin-jump, objectively the best move they ever game him since his inception....Mario 3 insists you stand there and wait while a Spiny shuffles on by, SMW encourages you to be proactive and continue playing
- Shittier bonus games
- Mario 3 is a stage play? I want a story and world to save, not the Matrix
- Shit cutscenes compared to World's after defeating the bosses
- Each castle in World is different – unlike the generic airships in Mario 3, which are the same, slow auto-scroll with palette swaps
- Less variety of enemies and their techniques to attack Mario
- Needed a Hollywood movie to sell it, World sold the SNES.
- B...but muh Hammer Suit!!!

Listen, Super Mario Bros 3 is a great game, but you people need to take off your nostalgia goggles. Basically, Super Mario World took Super Mario Bros 3, tore down its walls, and built something better on its foundation. Super Mario World is an improved SMB3. It’s as simple as that.

[Anonymous No.8644125]

>>8640716
SMW is a better engine. SMB3 is a better game.

[Anonymous No.8644131]

>>8644104
>No Yoshi
Nothing of value was lost
>8-bit graphics, smaller washed-out color palette
It still has better aesthetics despite having technically worse graphics
>No secret exits
World 1 alone has two levels with secret exits
Stopped reading there. You don't even know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.8644136]

>>8644104
stop trying to force this pasta, it's not funny. and neither are the allstars/mario 64 pics, for the record.

[Anonymous No.8644140]

>>8644104
The cape is so poorly implemented in World it's fucking nuts. Only hacks make use of it in a way that isn't either gimmicky or cheaty, and a lot of them largely forego it. That's largely the problem with World. It has tons of great mechanics and tools in its kit, but the base game hardly uses them to the fullest or properly.
>reams of obviously shitposty bait
uh oh poo poo

[Anonymous No.8644152]

Yoshi's Island is better than both and the best Nintendo in-house developed 2D platformer, anyway.

[Anonymous No.8644158]

>>8644152
My opinion of Island actually gets lower over the years. Not hitting Gerstmann levels or near it, but not nearly as dazzled anymore. I think DKC2 is a far better game for instance.

[Anonymous No.8644239]

>>8640716
they're both boring

[Anonymous No.8644317]

>>8643923
>having to beat the game in one sitting
warps
all stars version
ruining the game does not make it "better"

[Anonymous No.8644386]

>>8644131
>>no secret exits
he's still talking about 3 dumbass

[Anonymous No.8644403]

>>8644158
>DKC2
Not in-house.

[Anonymous No.8644464]

>>8644152
Yoshis Island was the worst Mario game up until that point.

[Anonymous No.8644468]

>>8644140
This. World is a weak platformer but has great romhacks.

[Anonymous No.8644480]

>>8644131
Yoshi is actually a great tool. Much like the sack boot Mario 3 has. Also ignore that copy pasta, it's almost all wrong.

[Anonymous No.8644514]

>>8640716
There are people posting on this board RIGHT NOW, who LITERALLY, UNIRONICALLY believe that SMW is a better game than Super Mario Bros. 3.
Let that sink in.

[Anonymous No.8644536]

>>8644514
They also think oot is the GOAT game and emulation is superior to original hardware on a crt.

[Anonymous No.8644548]

>>8644536
the latter is true though and the former would be true if it was mm instead.

[Anonymous No.8644604]

>>8644548
Yikes. Doubles Yikes.

[Anonymous No.8645213]

>>8642598
>>smw
>>beat this stage
>>go save
Only if it's a ghost house, switch palace, or castle, or you're playing the garbage casualized GBA version.

[Anonymous No.8645221]

>>8644152
>Yoshi's Island is better than both

[Anonymous No.8645226]

>>8645213
you know you can replay those stages whenever you want, right?

[Anonymous No.8645914]

>>8644104
>No Yoshi
fair
>- 8-bit graphics, smaller washed-out color palette
invalid
>- No secret exits
mmmm, ok,
>- Shorter levels
doesn't matter
>- Has flying in game but still primarily focuses on X-axis, World has much better verticality
push the button faster faggot
>- No star road with Special Zone expert levels
no, but smb3 is harder than smw. also i'm not wild about star road to begin with.
>- Can't replay particular levels without restarting game
i never wanted to.
>- Can't save the game
whistles
>- Final boss battle is a practice of avoidance, lame
invalid. smw's final boss is the same.
>- Generic boss battles in general in comparison to the dynamic ones of World, like the Reznors for example
yeah, but they're still stupid easy.
>- No spin-jump, objectively the best move they ever game him since his inception....Mario 3 insists you stand there and wait while a Spiny shuffles on by, SMW encourages you to be proactive and continue playing
sure, but no suits.
>- Shittier bonus games
wat
>- Mario 3 is a stage play? I want a story and world to save, not the Matrix
>story in games
>- Shit cutscenes compared to World's after defeating the bosses
>cutscenes
>- Each castle in World is different – unlike the generic airships in Mario 3, which are the same, slow auto-scroll with palette swaps
eh
>- Less variety of enemies and their techniques to attack Mario
wrong
>- Needed a Hollywood movie to sell it, World sold the SNES.
lol
>- B...but muh Hammer Suit!!!
hammer suit kicks ass you bastard.

[Anonymous No.8646118]

>>8642598
You can still beat it in one sitting if you hate save files that much.

[Anonymous No.8646267]

>>8640716
I didn't play SMW till last year and before that 3 was my favorite but SMW supremacy is UNDENIABLE

[Anonymous No.8646269]

i'd rather have a cape than a faggot-ass fursuit

[Anonymous No.8646312]

While this thread is still up, which game's item storage system is "better": SMB3, SMW, or something else?

[Anonymous No.8646445]

>>8646312
Mario 3 is better. Mario World allowing you to use a stored power-up at any time during a level makes it too easy.
However, stored stars are kinda pointless (who needs a star at the very beginning of a level?) and would be better under the SMW system.

[Anonymous No.8646683]

>>8640716

[Anonymous No.8647303]

>>8640716
Smw is comfiest mario adventure

[Anonymous No.8647306]

>>8640837
>Mario 3 is literally unironically better than Mario World though.
obviously, since it got the Mario Bros. mode

[Anonymous No.8647375]

>>8644104
Smb3 cucks btfo

[Anonymous No.8648475]

>>8644104
>No Yoshi
Near fair trade between situational Yoshi shell powers (stomp, flight, shot) and 3's rare powers (Tanooki, Frog, Hammer)
>8-bit graphics, smaller washed-out color palette
3 has the better artstyle, and more interesting use of colors
>No secret exits
- two warp whistles in World 1
- World 3-7 hidden red noteblock cloud
- World 5-1 pipe music box
>Shorter levels
SMW Caping over everything isn't faster?
>Has flying but still primarily focuses on X-axis, World has much better verticality
Is the speedy infinite horizontal movement of the Cape much better?
>No Special Zone expert levels
3 is around Special Zone difficulty, as is, base SMW is way easier on the whole.
>Can't replay particular levels without restarting game
Goes against the board game OW and inventory system.
>Can't save the game
Warp Whistles exist.
>FB is a practice of avoidance
If you don't bring Fire or Hammer.
>Generic boss battles in general in comparison to the dynamic ones of World
>like the Reznors for example
lol no
>Flight and control of racoon are trivial compared to cape
Tunring around mid-Cape is the biggest bitch to do and feels random.
>No spin-jump....you stand there and wait while a Spiny shuffles on by
- Fire
- Raccoon tail
- Tanooki statue drop
- Hammer
- just fucking jump over it like a normal person
>Shittier bonus games
lol no
- end-of-level cards
- 2P Mario Bros
- spade
- match-two card flipping game
>want a story and world to save
The manual treats it like a normal story.
>Shit cutscenes compared to World
3's title screen is probably the best cutscene, with World's level demo being bland. The climb aboard the SMB3 Airships are way better than leisurely strolling up to SMW castles.
>generic airships in Mario 3
sure
>Less variety of enemies
Losing many H.Bro Chomp, Plants, and Beetles types feels like a loss.
>World sold the SNES.
SMB3's success sold the SNES on the promise of another Mario game like it.
>- B...but muh Hammer Suit!!!
Hammer suit fucks.

[Anonymous No.8648486]

>>8640716

For me the only thing that really matters is Yoshi being a thing.

I think it's lame.

Is there a non-Yoshi SMW hack?

[Anonymous No.8648509]

>>8640716
SMB1 and SMB2(J) are better than SMW too

[Anonymous No.8648518]

>>8640716
I'm reasonably sure that 90% of these threads are bots just shitposting each other. Bland pasta like
>>8640837
>>8642598
pop up in every thread, without fail. I know I'm probably underestimating dedicated shitposters but man, what a waste of life if those posters aren't actually bots. Its somewhat impressive.

[Anonymous No.8648538]

>>8640716

Came here from the front page. I can remember being a little boy and playing SMB3 and dad came in and was like "hey, the graphics are almost as good!" And he did have a point, but at the same time I knew it was bullshit. It wasn't Super Mario World. Not that fucking Super Mario World I'd tested and loved in the store in Rochester, Minnesota.

I got my SNES soon enough.

[Anonymous No.8648546]

>>8647375
Australia kun please seek help.

[Anonymous No.8648551]

I marathoned Mario 1, Mario 2 (usa), mario3, and world. By far the best game is mario 2/doki doki and Mario World is a much better much less frustrating game than mario 3.

[Anonymous No.8648576]

>>8648518
How is telling the truth shitposting? You didn't even attempt to refute any of the claims. Just "this is just stale copypasta".

[Anonymous No.8648679]

World is better in every way

[Anonymous No.8648772]

>>8648518
>make the same thread
>get the same replies
>"WTF THIS MUST BE BOTS"

[Anonymous No.8648858]

>>8648551
>much less frustrating game than mario 3
How is a Mario game other than the Japanese Mario 2 too hard for you?

[Anonymous No.8648909]

>>8645213
One thing the GBA version did do right was actually give you a reason to collect the Yoshi coins in every level and a menu that told you whether you'd found the regular exit in a level or the secret one. It has flaws but it's a decent port.

[Anonymous No.8648975]

>>8645221
Yoshi's Island=SMB3>SMW

[Anonymous No.8649719]

>>8640716
And they're absolutely right

[Anonymous No.8650049]

>>8648475
>>Generic boss battles
>lol no
Boom-boom sucks and the Koopalings are mostly the same.

[Anonymous No.8650059]

>>8640837
>better bosses
I'd say it's a wash, the final with bowser is better in world but the kooplings are lame minigames, the simple jumping projectile throwing formula in 3 is better.

[Anonymous No.8650301]

>>8640996
>Racoon flight is more broken than anything in World.
The real difference is the economics. You can use OP flying in a handful of SMB3 levels and you can have a few of them stocked. That's it. In SMW you have an infinite supply of feathers and purple Yoshis that are trivial to obtain.