Pic related, it's the second most powerful thing Dr Wily ever made. You won't disagree. This thing easily tops Bass in rage induction and was dug up by Sigma working fine (I presume).

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Anonymous Mon Jul 1 18:41:36 2013 No.861146 [Reply] [Original]

Pic related, it's the second most powerful thing Dr Wily ever made.

You won't disagree. This thing easily tops Bass in rage induction and was dug up by Sigma working fine (I presume).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 18:47:05 2013 No.861154 Wait, what's the most powerful thing he made?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 18:47:35 2013 No.861153 >dug up by Sigma >I presume Yeah, where the hell did this come from? Is it really a repaired Yellow Devil? It seems like a safe assumption with all the talk Sigma had about knowing who Wily was. He even implied he was alive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 18:49:35 2013 No.861156 >>861154 Gutsman's ass

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 18:51:35 2013 No.861158 >>861154 I'd guess Zero. By far the most successful, even if he lost sight of his real purpose. Sorta like how planet Vegeta's strongest spawn is Goku.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 18:55:05 2013 No.861163 >>861154 Zero, obviously. He's DWN-Infinity. The ultimate Robot Master.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:07:06 2013 No.861203 I dunno, that bagworm boss from MM8 was pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:12:35 2013 No.861216 >>861163 only because inafune wanted zero to be the hero for years. I never played the zero games. I've only played most of the original nes games and X1 and a bit of legends 1

Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:15:35 2013 No.861228

>>861216
The MMZ games were great. You have to have a sort of suspension in your head when you see the WAAAY different art style about it as you play.

until you see the miniboss from the Eurasia colony ruins and it totally looks like something from an MMX game and think "...wait what"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:17:35 2013 No.861234 >>861158 >>861163 Oh shit, I forgot the obvious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:21:35 2013 No.861238 >>861228 Not to mention X after he was apparently dug up. What the actual fuck was going through everyone's heads when they made the art anyway? MMBN had better art direction than MMZ, and it's far more removed from the original.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:25:06 2013 No.861251 >>861238 >X >dug up X was present after the Maverick wars and simply put himself in stasis to contain the Dark Elf. Zero was the one buried.

Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:29:36 2013 No.861263

Holy shit did I have a hard time beating that thing. The boss music was so good.

I have to say though, the boss in the MMX games I had the hardest time with was those giant fucking blocks that rotated around in that bigass room. I can't seem to find what I'm talking about, what game was that from?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:31:05 2013 No.861270 File: 9 KB, 176x144, NightmareMother.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>861263 This thing from X6? Yeah, most bullshit boss in Megaman history.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:35:05 2013 No.861283 >>861263 Would have been easier if its green outline didn't fucking rape your lifebar like it does. Mother of god.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:38:35 2013 No.861295 >>861270 Yes, that thing. Fuck that thing so much. I was still pissed at that thing even after I finally beat it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 19:54:35 2013 No.861332 >>861238 Zero series was drawn by a porn artist ....yeah

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 20:00:35 2013 No.861348 >>861332 Pretty much every Japanese character designer would a "porn artist" by that criteria.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 20:03:06 2013 No.861360 >>861332 Not everyone can just jump right into the industry. There's a lot of high-profile character designers out there that draw a lot of doujins. Usually under a different name, but still.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 20:07:05 2013 No.861370 >>861216 >only because inafune wanted zero to be the hero for years Wait what? He was created to be evil but is good only because Inafune wanted this to be this way and its somehow a problem?

Anonymous Mon Jul 1 20:11:36 2013 No.861381

>>861146
Not dug up by. Wily built it for him. X5 and X6 pretty much outright state that Wily is alive in some form, likely similar to the Light Hologram. Isaac/Isoc in X6, in particular, IS Wily. The way his dialogue goes on about Zero and then 'BAM' he has Soul Erasure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 20:12:36 2013 No.861383 >>861146 Sigma boss is way harder. >>861295 I beat it in less than a minute. Use X special weapons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:31:05 2013 No.861564 >>861383 Which ones? Also, what do you do for Zero playthroughs, or Shadow Armour?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:32:35 2013 No.861565 Has it ever been stated what happened to Mega Man and the original Robot Masters in the X games?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:33:05 2013 No.861572 >>861270 I thought that was Gate. Man, I hate Gate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:44:05 2013 No.861609 >>861565 Presumably Wily activated Zero, who proceeded to kill everyone in the original MM titles and get locked in one of Light's underground bunkers until he was discovered by Sigma and the Repliforce.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:46:05 2013 No.861617 >>861609 Dang, that's dark.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:46:05 2013 No.861618 >>861609 >who proceeded to kill everyone in the original MM titles Debunked by Inafune. Then again, Capcom hates him now...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:46:35 2013 No.861615 >>861332 What? No it wasn't. He even did art for a game before MMZ. Speed Power Gunbike. He otherwise does Kamen Rider and Gundam fanart. Fucking lewd, man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:47:05 2013 No.861620 >>861609 The whole "Zero kills the classic cast" thing got debunked by Inafune himself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:47:35 2013 No.861619 >>861609 >using fanfic theories lel

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 21:53:05 2013 No.861631 >>861370 Zero was meant to be the main character of the MMX series.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 22:04:05 2013 No.861662 >>861572 FUN FACT: The Nightmare, and Nightmare Mother, were based off of an enemy from the Megamissions card series, the Limited parasite and Mother Limited.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 02:25:05 2013 No.862505
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>>861620
That's because Inafune specifically creates Zero's origin as HE WAS THE FUCKING MAVERICK VIRUS HOLY SHIT LOOK HOW EVIL HE WAS. BUT NOW HES GOOD TROUBLED PAST SO EDGEY XD

And then when this anti-hero COULD have actually done something villainous besides infect Sigma, Inafune changes his mind because Zero is his Mary-Sue.

Look into your heart, you know this to be true.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 02:51:35 2013 No.862586

>>862505
Or he just didn't like the idea of his classic characters being straight up fucking murdered.

Zero killing them would not have removed his "Mary-Sue" status. If anything, it would have enforced it.

>MY character is stronger than ALL the main characters combined! In fact, he KILLED them all because he's so cool and strong and YOUR characters SUCK but mine is grate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 02:56:35 2013 No.862608 File: 456 KB, 1280x1000, 4818ccf1a4bdb239b7d0501dbfae66a8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>862586 His reasoning was "He's not that kind of character." No, seriously. That was it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 02:58:35 2013 No.862612 File: 53 KB, 480x200, 1272244522926.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>862586 And really, Zero IS that strong. So is X, but X never had a crazy phase....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 02:59:36 2013 No.862617 >>862608 I'm fine with that. I wouldn't want a main character tainted with the blood of the entire cast of a classic franchise. Virus or not, I probably wouldn't forgive him either. >>862612 Yes he is, but honestly that's beside the point.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:02:35 2013 No.862625
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The Mega Man Zero games demonstrate why it's good Capcom hasn't revealed what in fact happens between the classic series and the X series.

MMZ invalidates the X series. It shows that for all X and the Maverick Hunters do, for all the wars, all the deaths, all the battles fought, the world is still going to be turned into a wasteland. Zero's going to lose his memories and all the experiences from the X series will amount to nothing, X will turn into a cyber elf and his original body will be destroyed, and Ciel will eventually fuck everything up for everybody. It's like watching the Star Wars prequel movies or TV series, you already know how things are going to end, so you know everybody is fucked even if they're fine for the moment.

Because Capcom doesn't reveal what happens inbetween the classic and X series, it doesn't rob the classic series of any unpredictability or story possibilities, and you can't say Mega Man's battles "are for nothing because the X series happens", because Mega Man is just trying to keep the world safe from Wily's attempts to take over the world, which have no bearing on the story of the X series (The Zero virus is seperate enough from "world domination").

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Tue Jul 2 03:10:35 2013 No.862642 >>862586 >MY character is stronger than ALL the main characters combined! In fact, he KILLED them all because he's so cool and strong and YOUR characters SUCK but mine is grate. Incidentally, this is why I don't read Marvel.

Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Tue Jul 2 03:13:35 2013 No.862656

>>862625
Hooty hoot theories time! The maverick virus was actually Wily's attempt to immortalize himself as a computer program, like what Dr. Light did. But Wily is a shitty programmer, so Holo Wily ended up degrading into basically a formless entity of evil.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:15:35 2013 No.862665 >>862656 I always thought it was something to do with that "evil energy" from Megaman 8

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:15:35 2013 No.862667 >>862656 Makes as much sense as anything. Although we do know Wily was at least partially sentient later in the series, if Sigma is to be believed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:16:05 2013 No.862678 >>862625 ...it sounds so wrong when you put it that way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:16:35 2013 No.862672 >>862625 ...it sounds so wrong when you put it tha way.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:23:35 2013 No.862708

>>862678
He's absolutely correct though. Viewing X and classic as completely separate entities really does make classic feel a lot better. I don't pick up classic games and feel "this is all for nothing, everybody straight up dies horribly later" because we don't know that. And will never know that, so maybe it's just not the case.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:26:36 2013 No.862713 >>862612 He would've, but then they decided at the last minute to make Copy X instead.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:27:06 2013 No.862716
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>>862625
X Series kind of had that theme anyway.

The never ending battle, without the Classic light heartedness to make it comedic.

They CAN'T kill Sigma. Like the Classic series, X would have been better as a trilogy, but Sigma survived the anti-virus, and even survived X5 AND X6.

He MAY be dead in X8, but if they do an X9 they will ignore that story's ending and just go back to Sigma infected 8 robots in 16 bit style with Axel mysteriously gone, so goodbye to any plot development there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:30:05 2013 No.862724 >>862716 but at least the status quo remained consistant, mostly. The MMZ series basically stamps a big FAILURE notice on X's face.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:31:05 2013 No.862729 >>862667 Even before that we all but know he's Sagesse from X2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:33:35 2013 No.862732 >>862724 And then ZX mostly fixes it by showing X finding a new resolve, and that despite all the horrors and atrocities, the world is finally moving towards peaceful coexistence between humans and Repliroids.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:34:05 2013 No.862735
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>>862724
X saved the human race from extinction from 2 huge wars, and contained basically Data Satan in his body.

And guided Zero to fix everything else.
Really, if there's a fail here, it's Ciel, and Zero for being retarded and going to sleep when his bro needed him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:35:05 2013 No.862738 I loved how they offered little glimpses between Classic and X, but at the end of the day it was always bittersweet because they would never follow up on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:52:35 2013 No.862790 File: 91 KB, 526x440, 245395 - Mega_Man Splash_Woman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >this fine piece of robot trim is probably in a junkyard somewhere

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:55:05 2013 No.862806 >>862729 >Sagesse If you're going to use a romanized version of his Japanese name, it's Sāgesu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:55:05 2013 No.862807 File: 93 KB, 526x440, 1372751548881.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>862790 fix'd that image

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 03:59:37 2013 No.862817 >>862807 Well, it was drawn back in late-2008 whenever /v/ was crazy about MM9, but good edit.

Leviathan Tue Jul 2 03:59:37 2013 No.862818
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>>862625
If you want to look at it that negatively, the classic series is just as nullified by the MMZ series as the MMX series is. Mega Man spent his life fighting Wily and his vision of world domination. But not only is Wily still implied to be alive even in the 81st century (boat salesman in MM Legends 1), but his legacy is carried through the entire MMX and MMZ series. The moral conflict between Wily and Light is still going on even into the MMZ series, where Maverickism, which is essentially the culmination of Wily's work, is STILL the primary plot device.

But if you want to be that dark about it, you could say that the entire franchise wraps itself up in MM2 for the GameBoy, where Wily uses a time machine to kidnap a future Mega Man (from a time beyond that of Legends 2) and reprograms him to fight Mega Man of the 21st century. Mega Man then confronts this problem the same way he does all problems: jump and shoot! Thus destroying his future self. But, hey, that jackhammer pogo stick is worth the temporal anomaly!

I don't like to look at the series that negatively. Even by MMZ, there's still hope that Light's vision of harmony between humans and robots can be accomplished. As a matter of fact, I think that harmony is very well established by the MML series, where members of your family could very well be sentient tanks (Bon Bonne). And who knows, maybe Quint comes from an alternate timeline that has been destroyed by the choices of the protagonists we love.

Leviathan Tue Jul 2 04:07:05 2013 No.862840
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>>862735
Fuck that, Zero didn't go to sleep. The series was supposed to canonically end at X5 according to Inafune. But X5's gameplay sucked, so they fucked up the story continuity with X6 (basically an apology game). The MMZ series picks up where X5 left off, with Zero in the same half blown-up state.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 04:09:05 2013 No.862853
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>>862840
And then Zero 2, or is it 3? Clearly states he did after the Elf wars.

Hell, to wake Zero they require an Elf, in no version of that game did Zero not go to sleep voluntarily.

And really, why would X5 Zero death be any worse than X1? He got up after that!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 04:10:05 2013 No.862858 Black Devil was made by Wily. He is well alive in X5.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 04:10:36 2013 No.862856

>>862818
Or just consider classic Mega Man its own universe, X being a universe where Mega Man failed to fight for everlasting peace because Capcom hates Mega Man, Legends being its own thing, and everything else being forgettable trash drawn by lolicon artists.

>>	Leviathan Tue Jul 2 04:11:35 2013 No.862859 File: 97 KB, 395x600, ls.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>862790 Splash woman lives on!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 04:19:05 2013 No.862873 File: 69 KB, 450x627, 3fd9d8ff42557358420573ab2b758864.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbDWsCPe2Ig Can we discuss how bitchin' a full fledged X anime would have been?

>>	Leviathan Tue Jul 2 04:32:05 2013 No.862891 >>862873 http://blip.tv/roosterteeth/megaman-x-fanimation-by-shane-newville-6483354 Awesome, but this is better. Is that video from Rockman Online or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:03:35 2013 No.862949 >>861238 MMZ's art is my favorite from the entire franchise. By far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:19:05 2013 No.862965 why does everyone hate MMBN? The games are brilliant.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:26:05 2013 No.862982 >>862806 Sagesse is French for wisdom. The other Counter Hunter names were also French, just less obviously so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:26:35 2013 No.862981 >>862965 I love BN. But it seems the only thing people hate more is Star Force. I can see why SF would annoy BN fans, but I don't understand all the hate BN gets.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:28:05 2013 No.862985 >>862891 >awkward CG that looks like an ad for an FPS >better than hand-drawn kickass animation The worst part is, the market caters more and more towards people like you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:33:05 2013 No.863002 >>862981 'cause it was a RPG, not a platformer/shooter. The non "traditional" Megaman games have all been comparatively poor selling games to the main franchises unfortunately. Which bummed me out, I freaking loved BN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:36:06 2013 No.863008 >>863002 Inafune said in the Official Complete Works artbook that he wanted to end the series with 6 because he didn't want Capcom to drag it out and rape it like the X series.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:40:05 2013 No.863020 >>863008 Yeah. I suppose that's a fair reason. It was turning to a Pokemon esque thing at the end with the version shenanigans. I wish Inafune was still making Megaman games and not ecchi moe shit....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:43:35 2013 No.863026 >>863020 They were thinking about giving Lan a change of clothes for the last game but all the designs looked pretty boring. I like that they kind of aged him on the boxart though. I thought Inafune was making some penguin pirate game or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 05:55:35 2013 No.863048 File: 164 KB, 462x500, 3840217737_8c4c606cbc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the first most powerful thing? I don't do Megaman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 06:17:36 2013 No.863068 >>861564 >Shadow Armor Well timed Giga Attack (so that it for the most part runs into both squares) usually does the trick. Also wrecks Sigma.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 06:25:06 2013 No.863078 >>862716 When you say it like that, you make MMX sound like Mega Man: Castlevania Edition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 06:29:06 2013 No.863089 File: 17 KB, 190x173, dis nigga.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>862856 >hating on MMZ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 07:27:36 2013 No.863157 >>862853 >And really, why would X5 Zero death be any worse than X1? He got up after that! He was almost completely rebuilt by the Counter Hunters. Not quite the same as "I hid myself while I tried to repair myself".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 08:23:06 2013 No.863218 >>863048 Zero.

Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Tue Jul 2 10:11:06 2013 No.863329
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>>862985
The worst part is, nostalgia-goggled wearing haters like you are one of the big reasons this franchise failed in the western front. The other being X7...But X8 was solid, only by then the hate was on full blast and no one even gave it a shot. I hear people call X5 a good game yet X8 is trash? Really it's just because it's 2.5D and that's it. It's that hate that holds Crapcom back from releasing games like Maverick Hunter X on consoles despite it being the best X game in years. Or MegaMan Powered Up for that matter, which is the best Classic MM game, that and "Endless Attack" from MM9 & 10 (the best part of those lazily produced games)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 10:17:06 2013 No.863335 File: 179 KB, 640x888, megaman2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>863329 >MegaMan Powered Up...best Classic MM game You shut your whore mouth!

Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Tue Jul 2 10:36:06 2013 No.863348
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>>863008
um, on page 56 of that Official Complete Work artbook Inafune actually said he wanted to end the series at X5, but felt he felt owed the fans an "apology" for how shitty it played. In turn leading to X6, a game that played solid, but had sprite work that looked like it was made over night and that awful Nightmare system stage bullshit. Not to mention a real shitty OST w/ the exception of 2 songs (Blaze Heatnix and Sigma's theme...which was just an X2 cover, so that shouldn't even count) It's also real apparent he wanted it to end at X5 after you play the intro stage to MMZ1, where all that's left of Zero is his head and upper bits much like he is at the end of X5.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 10:39:06 2013 No.863352 >>861146 What, Bass in MM 7 ? He's pretty easy once you learn the pattern.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 10:52:36 2013 No.863369 >>863348 are you fucking implying this is a bad song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTV9lGh34ZE

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 11:09:06 2013 No.863398 >>863369 It's just someone giving opinion as facts again. X¨'s OST was good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 11:17:06 2013 No.863410 >>863398 I realized that I gave me opinion as fact too. Well, fuck me too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 13:51:39 2013 No.863752 >>863020 He made Soul Sacrifice and Bugs vs. Tanks as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 15:44:10 2013 No.864043 >>863348 Was talking about Battle Network OCW

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 15:53:40 2013 No.864064
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>>863348
Rephrasing a bit aren't you?
This actually makes me a little mad.

THE EXACT QUOTE IS:

"I had honestly planned for 'X5' to be the last title in the series, but somehow I found myself with 'X6.' I feel like I owe the fans an apology, but I have to admit the series was starting to go in a direction that was out of my control. I plan to reexamine the situation and be more careful with how I handle the Mega Man name from now on."

That screams "I'm sorry for X6" to me.
And I like X6. Why would Inafune support X6 though? He wasn't involved in making the game at all, it went a different direction than him.

Like the Legends series.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 21:04:11 2013 No.865127 >>862729 That's only in the manga, where he literally is Wily's consciousness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 21:31:41 2013 No.865184 INAFUNE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE X6 YOU FAGGOTS X6 WAS MADE BEHIND HIS BACK, HE LITERALLY DIDN'T KNEW ABOUT X6 UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE HE WAS NEVER INVOLVED ON IT, IF YOU WANNA BLAME SOMEONE BLAME CAPCOM FOR BEING JEWS

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 21:38:41 2013 No.865203 >>861615 Actually, he did draw porn. Some of it's pretty disgusting, too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 21:49:11 2013 No.865221 >>862891 Where do people get this idea that MM punches and kicks people? That Maverick Hunter game does the exact same thing and it looks stupid as hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 21:56:11 2013 No.865236 >>861146 The Legend of Zero: Mega's Mask

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 22:01:12 2013 No.865243 >>865127 He gets pissy about being killed by "Light's forgotten memento," something no one else does. Pretty sure even Isoc didn't namedrop Light.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 22:03:12 2013 No.865250 >>865203 No one's arguing that he hasn't done porn, but it's not like his primary body of work is pornographic. >Some of it's pretty disgusting Like? What I've seen was pretty vanilla.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 22:14:11 2013 No.865289

>>865243
Isoc didn't namedrop Light, no. I didn't know that about Serges though; I just went to dig up some Japanese dialogue, and it's an interesting note. It'd honestly fit with the 'Wily AI' deal that's heavily pointed at from X5's references (like Sigma's mentioning of Zero as a Wily Number with broken dialogue) and X6's pretty heavy notation of Isaac being Wily.

Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Tue Jul 2 22:36:11 2013 No.865383

I'm pretty sure a large number of the guys mentioning the MMZ series of games in this thread haven't played them, because there seems to be some confusion to where they connect with the X series.

Zero is in disrepair at the beginning of the Zero series not due to battle damage sustained, but because the research facility he's spent the last 100+ years in has deteriorated along with his new full-reploid body (which is not as strong or immortal as his original non-reploid-based robot body).

Zero's original body, now massively altered and inhabited by a purely evil entity called Omega, was imprisoned on an orbital space station along with Dr. Wile, who created Omega (not Wily, Wile, or Vile, or whatever you want to call him) for crimes against huge manatee using the Mother/Dark Elf.

After X and Zero together banish Omega and Wile, Zero confines himself to a stasis chamber to ensure he doesn't cause any further issues. He implores X to let him be selfish and rest for a bit.

Sometime afterwards X seals the Mother/Dark Elf away using his own body, which forces his digital soul (X in Elf form) to separate from his body and slowly decay. By end of the second Zero game X is no longer able to fully manifest himself as a hologram (spoilers: his real body is destroyed in Zero 2, for good).

While X slumbers, the world calls for another hero. Ciel, a young female prodigy (probably genetically engineered), copies X's body as closely as she can and tries to program an artificial intelligence that will protect reploids and humans at all costs. Copy X is born and for a time all is fine. Eventually the world enters an energy crisis and Copy X is forced to "retire" reploids (kill them) in order to spare human suffering. This drives him mad.

Ciel leaves Neo Arcadia, the city Copy X rules (basically the only city that seems to matter or exist at all) to for a rebellion/resistance.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 22:43:41 2013 No.865408

>>861631
Zero is almost like the ultimate irony for Wile. Even Bass fell eventually. Even though Zero was leagues ahead of anything ever seen and clearly outlasting them, he ends up helping aid lights will instead.

Go onto the zero series where he not only stands up to a robot perfectly x's equal, to Dr. Weil(geddit?), killing off wily's ambition for good.

So in the end, it took wily to stop wily.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 22:44:11 2013 No.865409 File: 324 KB, 768x669, idontthinkitsobviousenoughyet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>865289 Sigma's Wily Number line is from X2 as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 22:45:41 2013 No.865416 >>865383 >Wile, who created Omega (not Wily, Wile, or Vile, or whatever you want to call him) Vile, English version renamed him Weil to keep from confusing him with VAVA, who was renamed as Vile in English.

Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Tue Jul 2 22:48:41 2013 No.865429

>>865383
Holy shit I almost hit the word limit. Some more details:

Dr. Wile (Vile in the JP versions) is in no way related to Wily. Wile is a scientist who helped create the Mother Elf, corrupted it, and also created Omega to control the Mother/Dark Elf and corrupt Zero's original body. Wile was something of a reploid resurrection specialist. He even brings Copy X back for Zero 3 after you kill him in Zero 1.

Ciel is a teenage human girl at the beginning of the Zero series. Regardless of her age, the reploids who rally around her look up to her as a mother symbol. She eventually discovers a solution to the energy crisis in Zero 2, but it's too late to stop the jingoistic military leader (Elpizo) from trying to attack Neo Arcadia (and failing spectacularly).

The Zero series takes place over what probably amounts to less than five years. There's a long stretch between Zero 1 and Zero 2 where Zero wanders in the desert being slowly beat to shit by the elements. He's eventually found by one of X's main lackeys (who and dropped off at the resistance's new front door out of pure respect.

>>	Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Tue Jul 2 22:49:12 2013 No.865436 >>865416 Thank you for the clarification, I keep forgetting that.

Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Tue Jul 2 22:53:11 2013 No.865453

>>865408
In Zero 4, before Zero attacks the final boss, he gets a little speech. Probably the longest amount of text Zero gets for the whole series.

Zero says basically he doesn't care about the rules of robotics that are supposed to govern his actions. He doesn't care that he's supposedly a hero. He only cares about protecting the things he holds dear, or something along those lines.

And then he outright murders a human, Dr. Wile (JP: Vile). Wile is not a reploid or any form of Dr. Wily. He's not a virus or anything else. He's a human who has been forced to become immortal to suffer for eternity for the destruction he and Omega visited upon the world during the Cyber Elf war. Zero breaks the laws of robotics and murders him in Zero 4.

GG Wily.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 22:56:11 2013 No.865474

>>865453
Laws of robotics are a moot point by the X series, since the whole point of Repliroids is that they are fully autonomous. Granted, any Repliroid that willingly chose to harm a human or another Repliroid would still be a criminal, but the hard-wired sort of restraint that the rules of robotics imply wouldn't be a factor for the Repliroids, X, or Zero.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:00:41 2013 No.865493 >>865474 Even mega man was going to kill wily at one point. He weighed it as a value judgement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:02:11 2013 No.865509 >>865493 US translation only. In the original he backed down.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:13:41 2013 No.865560 File: 254 KB, 1100x1000, 13447d67555958af3c25e4971e0eb898.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>865493 The rules of Robotics state you can harm a human if it's to directly save another. I'd say that's topical in regards to Wily.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:14:11 2013 No.865569
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>>865429
>>865453
This is also one of the most satisfying plot battles in any game ever. Zero vs Omega.

I will say, that this version of the fight is in truth much better than the version we ended up with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VRUBV7ccsw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:15:11 2013 No.865570 >>865560 Let's say spec wise mega man could equal x. Who prevails? Alsoblues is blind[/spoilers]

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:15:42 2013 No.865573

>>865493
>>865509
To be accurate, he just had a silence, which could be taken a million different ways. Part of the problem is that it's never completely clear just how self-determining Rock is - Blues likely is almost if not entirely autonomous like X and Zero, judging by his many actions that run counter to the will or intent of both Light and Wily, but keeping Rock and Roll from running away from home like him may have encouraged Light to restrict their free will. Then again, Rock is the one who bursts out and asks to be reformatted into a combat model to stop his brothers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:16:12 2013 No.865581 >>865570 Probably Megaman - X has too much doubt and hesitation.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:18:11 2013 No.865586

>>865453

Weil is so robotic at that point that the argument could be made he has no humanity left in him. Moreover, starting with X, reploids were given the ability to choose to break any laws of robotics as they have true free will. Whether Zero does or doesn't is actually unknown since Dr. Wily never revealed his designs with Zero. Even all ther reploids who went Mavericks didn't have the choice because reploids weren't truly given the choice of free will until X8 when the Copy Robots were upgraded to the point where they could do whatever they wanted. Before then all reploids did not have true free will as they were only approximations of X's design.

So if Zero kills a human in Zero's ending (which I don't agree with, Weil lost his humanity long ago) then it's for one of three reasons: a) he was always programmed with free will (unlikely due to the Zero virus implanted in him from the start, he was likely just a very strong robot designed to carry on destruction long after Wily's death), b) he received upgrades like other robots did so that he did have true free will or c) he broke the laws of robotics on his own, thereby becoming truly free by his own volition.

>>865509

This is correct. In the Japanese version, he says nothing and puts his Buster away.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:21:12 2013 No.865597

>>865586
>a) he was always programmed with free will (unlikely due to the Zero virus implanted in him from the start, he was likely just a very strong robot designed to carry on destruction long after Wily's death)

I always figured that was exactly WHY Zero had free will - so Wily could know for sure that the virus could override it and infect even X.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:21:42 2013 No.865604 >>865586 >This is correct. In the Japanese version, he says nothing and puts his Buster away. Wrong. He doesn't put the Buster away.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:25:41 2013 No.865621 File: 132 KB, 850x617, sample-46af7238ed1fda84b75ab34e266a87b7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>865581 He only does in the beginning, and X7. Check out the X2-6/8. No hesitation. You have to get the job done.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:27:11 2013 No.865635
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>>865597
Which is ironic because thanks to Light's diagnostics, X is truly the only one immune to the Virus.

Zero gets stronger and keeps his sanity for a while, but too much exposure makes him "Pure."
I wouldn't call it insane, more like factory spec.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:30:11 2013 No.865650 >>865621 Self-doubt is X's defining trait, and a major reason he's the hero compared to everyone else who's fully convinced they're in the right without a second thought. It's also why Zero trusts X so much and values X's life over his own.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:31:11 2013 No.865653

>>865597

You know, that's actually a good point. I never thought of that. Thanks for chipping in.

>>865604

http://youtu.be/d3hdnYJYgRw?t=1m33s

No, you are absolutely wrong. I speak Japanese so I'll translate for you (literally, the official translation gives a better context but I'm just showing a point here):

Wily: I'm sorry Megaman! I give up, please forgive me.
Megaman: You won't trick me again, Dr. Wily!
Wily: Are you going to shoot... are you going to shoot me? Me? You, a robot, is going to shoot me, a human?
Megaman: ......... *puts his buster away*

So yes, he does put his buster away when Wily reminds him that robots can't shoot humans (indirectly)

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:33:11 2013 No.865658

>>865635
Is he though? My understanding was that the diagnostics were only meant to keep him from going down that path on his own, rather than it being meant as a resistance to outside invasions. Then again, IHX seems to almost handwave the diagnostics themselves, implying that X was just put in the capsule because Light wanted the world to catch up with his ideals and become a place X could live in peace and understanding with his fellow man first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:35:11 2013 No.865675 >>865653 I speak Japanese just fine, thank you. I could've sworn they held the sprite of him with the Buster out during the ........ sequence though. I guess I'm just getting old.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:37:11 2013 No.865684

>>865658

It's suggested through the games that X is not immune to becoming a Maverick. The 30 years of ethic testing he did was supposed to give him the training needed to do the 'right thing' but not surpress his ability to choose. His doubt at his ability to resist doing bad things is directly brought up in his ending in X4 where he asks Zero to kill him if he ever turns.

Remember that even though they know that becoming a Maverick is caused by a virus at that point, X probably equates breaking the laws that he chooses to obey as the same as being a Maverick.

As for Zero, in X5 it was shown that even when he becomes Nightmare Zero as a result of exposure to the virus, and it does change his personality, it's more like a temporary change of heart. No matter what ending you get, Zero regains his composure and decides to be a good guy again, and gives up his life for X in one last effort to do good.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:40:11 2013 No.865691

>>865675

I'm sorry if I offended you by translating it for you, although how am I supposed to know which posters do and don't speak Japanese on an anonymous English imageboard. As for the buster part, maybe there was a different version where that happens but frankly I don't think so. If there is one thing I know about when it comes to vidya, it's Megaman.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:41:42 2013 No.865695
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>>865658
I believe it's X5 or X6 where it's said he's immune.

At least, immune to the point of not going Maverick, he could always get weak from X5.

It's the only reason why X is the only one who can go toe to toe with Sigma, besides from Zero who needs a SHITTON to go back to being evil. And Axel later on, because he's a prototype new Reploid or some shit.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:45:11 2013 No.865713

>>865684
>Remember that even though they know that becoming a Maverick is caused by a virus at that point, X probably equates breaking the laws that he chooses to obey as the same as being a Maverick.

Do remember that Irregulars existed before the virus was spread - after all, Sigma was already head of the Irregular Hunters when he discovered and was infected by Zero. Then there's the whole mess where later on Irregular is just tossed around as a political label as much as anything.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:45:41 2013 No.865707
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>>865684
He only dives into the blast to save X's life if he goes evil.

If he stayed good, he uses his own buster. Like you know, someone with a logic circuit.

Still saves X either way though.
Which is fair, X saved Zero from himself in X2 (or literally saved him if you beat all the X hunters) and did all the Sigma work 3 times over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:49:42 2013 No.865727 Zero is part of the reason I can't get into the later X games. He's just such an annoying character. Protoman is 100 times cooler

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:49:42 2013 No.865728

>>865707

Ah yes, you're right about the sacrifice part. Nonetheless, no matter what happens he regains his sense of true self despite the influence of the virus. I think that's enough to support that Zero is probably immune to the virus after he is rid of it.

>>865713

That's true, there were Maviercks before the virus' discovery so X must indeed equate the two as being hte same. And yeah, the focus on being labelled a Maverick as just as political thing is focused heavily upon in X4, but throughout the other later games as well. Like Shield Sheldon, who was considered a Maverick for protecting Gate even though he was just doing his job.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:50:11 2013 No.865738 >>865707 >god bless you in the corner ugh really?

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:53:12 2013 No.865751
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>>865728
>Immune to the virus after he is rid of it.

Uh....people tend not to be effected by things they're not exposed too....

I am loving this thread guys. I love talking some meta X series shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:55:12 2013 No.865756 >>865738 Yeah, you'd think the last place you'd see Christian propaganda would be in shounen-ai. They must be getting desperate for recruits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:57:42 2013 No.865760 >>865728 >I think that's enough to support that Zero is probably immune to the virus after he is rid of it. Judging from the Zero ending in X6, Zero doesn't think he's immune.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:58:12 2013 No.865763
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>>865751

I know it makes sense but I don't think there were any other reploids who went Maverick and reverted back to normal. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'll also add some X pics.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 00:12:42 2013 No.865809 For people speculating about the Zero virus, don't forget about this http://wiki.themmnetwork.com/index.php?title=Worry_circuit

Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Wed Jul 3 00:27:12 2013 No.865850

>>865586
I mostly agree with you. Here's your options broken down.

a) isn't applicable, the Zero in the Zero games is no longer inhabiting the body he originally was "born" into, so if his programming is in any way malleable, the new body built for him during the Elf wars probably gave him more free will.

b) probably somewhat accurate, it doesn't say who made Zero's new body but whoever did was probably a master builder, because he was able to go up against his old body and beat it with the help of X.

c) this is what I'd like to believe, gives the ending more gravitas.

In b4 gravitas jokes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 00:45:12 2013 No.865909 >>865763 Doppler

>>	Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Wed Jul 3 01:26:42 2013 No.865974 >>865809 Wait a fucking second, so it's not Zero's fault there are Mavericks, it's shitty scientists copying X's design? Wow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 01:27:42 2013 No.865975 >>865974 It's both. The Sigma Virus is able to infect reploids because of their faulty worry chip. But if it wasn't for the Sigma Virus, they would not be likely to go Maverick

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 01:31:12 2013 No.865983 File: 133 KB, 400x400, 1276309419490.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>865909 This anon is correct.>>865763 Even made the Anti-Virus, as effective as that was.

>>	Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Wed Jul 3 01:32:13 2013 No.865989 >>865975 And the Sigma virus is a form of the Zero virus? Sigma confirmed to be a normal reploid, right? Not really special until he threw down with Zero in the cave?

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 01:39:12 2013 No.866001
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>>865989
He was THE most advanced reploid at the time.

Had an improved worry circuit that was supposed to be immune from malfunction and thus, Sigma was never supposed to go Maverick.

Didn't really take.

Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Wed Jul 3 01:48:12 2013 No.866017

>>866001
I see. I never got deep into the original Megaman games (too young) or the X games (still too young) but the Zero series was perfectly timed for me and to an extent so was the MMBN series.

Most of my knowledge has to do specifically with the Zero series, so when X series stuff gets thrown around I try to keep track of things but eventually get lost.

I once tried making a unified timeline of all the series and calculating the earliest and latest dates for any of the events happening (Light and Wily graduating, making robots, dying, X waking up, Zero waking up, Sigma getting infected, etc., etc.). I think I still have it in a txt doc somewhere, but it's probably all wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 04:40:44 2013 No.866284 >>865809 Does anyone have a good quality scan of the Official Complete Works? I'm curious to see if that wiki's translation is at all accurate, something doesn't seem to add up but I can't put my finger on it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 04:43:14 2013 No.866297 File: 283 KB, 538x724, 3d08c97180d6b05ed9bcb69a451f05af.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>866284 Buy it and support Mega Man faggot.

Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Wed Jul 3 04:54:14 2013 No.866325
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>>864064
Sorry my paraphrasing pisses you off, Bro. I feel like Inafune was apologizing for X5 with X6, and was also apologizing for X6 even having to exist in the first place. Because contrary to popular belief among nostalgia enslaved fans, X5's gameplay sucked. Like Inafune says on page 48 of the MMX-OCW, "That's why the game (X5) itself has a real feel of finality to it." But why end the series on such a clunky note? Perhaps he doesn't say it like that outright, but the gameplay speaks for itself. I like X6 myself, it's gameplay is solid (Zero's movement was amazing and X's Shadow armor was slick as hell...despite that Nightmare system for the stages, that shit was just annoying) but when you look at the sprite work in that game and it's elevator worthy OST, it's clear that they put together X6 over a weekend. The faults of X6 could've been fixed if you combine what it lacked with what X5 had going for it and vise versa in some fantasy reality. However, putting two mediocre games together to make one good game is still a downward spiral and a strong sign of the downfall of the X series...Inafune did owe us all an apology for that shit. Thank god for the Zero series gameplay... Regardless, the point I was trying to make make before is that the series was suppose to end with X5.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 04:54:44 2013 No.866324 >>866297 I don't mind buying it and probably will at some point, but either way I'd like the scans since the font in those art books tends to be kind of small for me, and being able to zoom in would help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 04:57:15 2013 No.866336 >>866325 >contrary to popular belief among nostalgia enslaved fans, X5's gameplay sucked >nostalgia >X5 I'm afraid you're too young for this board.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 04:59:45 2013 No.866338
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>>866325
Yes it was, but you said the gameplay was so bad Inafune made X6.

Inafune didn't even KNOW about X6 until it came out, he was apologizing for it coming out at all. And for the series becoming a cash cow instead of having any kind of vision or integrity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 05:01:44 2013 No.866342 File: 18 KB, 320x240, normal_MM8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>866338 To put it bluntly, you didn't paraphrase, you put words in Inafune's mouth. Bro.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 05:21:14 2013 No.866395

>>862724
Yup. Just like X stamps a big FAILURE notice on Mega Man's face.

>>865569
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VRUBV7ccsw
I usually frown upon "sprite fan movies", but this one was really well done.

>>865727
Wait, isn't Zero an evolution of Protoman? That kid told me that his uncle who works for Capcom said it!

Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Wed Jul 3 05:45:45 2013 No.866430
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>>865383
It's funny, I never played through the Zero games until recently because I never owned a GBA and I didn't care for the art style back then. This past week though I went through MMZ1-4 and holy fuck was I missing out! Shits amazing!

That said, when I was referring to Zero's body in disrepair in the beginning of MMZ1, I meant that it seemed the original intent was to provide a seamless transition between MMX5 (where the X series was originally intended to end according to Inafune in the Megaman X- Official Complete Works) and MMZ1. Seeing as production of MMZ1 occurred between MMX5 and X6, they clearly didn't originally intend on using the whole Zero goes into selfish sleep plot. For the sake of the integrity of Zero's character, I feel that leaving off with a battle destroyed Zero is way better then nap-time Zero...but you're right, the "Sleeping" is directly refereed to for the first time in MMZ3, making the stasis-lock ending of X6 the "canon" segway of MMX to MMZ. Canon for Capcom, but most definitely not Inafune's original intent.

>>	Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Wed Jul 3 05:51:46 2013 No.866441 File: 99 KB, 600x450, 1286542551293.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>866336 I wasn't referring to X5 being nostalgic for myself, I mowed lawns to get money for MegaMan 3 on my NES...you know, 22 years ago.

Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Wed Jul 3 06:00:15 2013 No.866449
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>>866338
Sorry, ment Okamoto, not Inafune. My original point was that Inafune wanted to end the X series with X5, didn't mean to get sidetracked ranting.

Bro-Bot ;]

Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Wed Jul 3 06:29:21 2013 No.866478
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>>866395
There's nothing official (that I know of) that states that Zero couldn't be an evolved ProtoMan. In the classic series Wily was infamous for reusing, reworking and reprogramming other robots to serve his will. It seems unlikely that Wily could go from building something like SheepMan to something as unstoppable as Zero from scratch.

ProtoMan's atomic core was unstable, he's going to pop eventually, that much is canon.

Maybe even his destruction/death helps to cause the unknown calamity that happens between MM Classic and MMX, the same calamity that claims our heroes from MM Classic. Whose to say Wily wasn't there to pick up the pieces and construct Zero from the remains of ProtoMan and his sheild? That sheild was damn near indestructible and Wily would never be able to afford to costs of making Zero from scratch anyways, so why not?

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 06:40:41 2013 No.866504 >>866478 >There's nothing official (that I know of) that states that Zero couldn't be an evolved ProtoMan. Yes, there is; Dr. Wily build Zero and is his masterpiece. That means he didn't rebuild Zero from Proto Man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 06:40:57 2013 No.866501 >>866478 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-byDNFnfak Zero was under construction during a time Proto Man was alive and kicking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 06:43:46 2013 No.866506 File: 276 KB, 600x450, 1291260126468.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck what Capcom says , Protoman is Zero!

Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Wed Jul 3 06:47:47 2013 No.866514
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>>866501
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-byDNFnfak

That's very clearly Zero on a screen (a silhouette of post MMX2 Zero, after he gets rebuild by Dr. Cain...wtf?)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 06:48:16 2013 No.866516 >>866514 Chalk it up to an art error.

>>	Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Wed Jul 3 06:52:15 2013 No.866526 File: 317 KB, 627x900, MMFieldGuide_CVR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>866504 Dr. Wily claims a number of his robots are "original" creations of his when they are in fact not. Read the Robot Master Field Guide.

>>	Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Wed Jul 3 06:57:45 2013 No.866534 File: 409 KB, 900x600, 1291252439204.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>866516 True, but nevertheless it's still Zero on a computer screen not Zero on a table online or even under construction for that matter.

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>>866534
His idea was sound, but he would still need funding and materials to make something as badass as Zero even exists...those materials are within ProtoMan and his indestructible shield...but that's just pure fan speculation XD

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 07:25:15 2013 No.866570 >>866526 That book sucks ass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 07:27:45 2013 No.866579 I thought Megaman X was the most powerful character in that universe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 07:40:15 2013 No.866597 >>866570 gr8 b8 m8

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 07:40:47 2013 No.866596

>>866579
I'll put this in MOBA terms.

X is your hard carry. He isn't too strong in the early game but if you get enough XP (weapons and armor) he wrecks ass in the late game.

Zero is a great ganker all around. He's strong through the whole game, though additional weapons and armor, while far from useless, don't help him as much as they do X.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 07:45:45 2013 No.866602 >>866526 In Mega Man Power Fighters or whatever, in Bass's ending you get to see a blueprint for Zero. Protoman had nothing to do with it. Not even so much as a hint. Get out of here with your filthy headcanon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 07:49:45 2013 No.866608 >>866514 Wait wait...he mentions his "other project" the obvious answer would be the Zero Virus, but for some reason I think it might be something else

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 07:50:45 2013 No.866612 File: 26 KB, 312x312, 3120948.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>866506 >Protoman >Zero >Same robot

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>>866612
Woah, didn't think that idea was bad enough to warrant that kinda reaction lol How bout Roll? Same color scheme, maybe Wily made Zero's body from her part and Zero is a metaphorical love child of Wily's and Roll's?

>>	Tom Selleck-The Original Blue (...) Wed Jul 3 08:23:16 2013 No.866658 File: 251 KB, 695x900, 1305216720623.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>866602 Why does that idea hurt you so much?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:22:41 2013 No.866910 >>866441 The fact that you would even consider X5 a reasonable target of nostalgia for anyone at all suggests to me that you're younger than you claim to be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:24:41 2013 No.866913 >>866526 Protip: Never trust English language materials, the translators rarely put enough care into their word choices.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:25:11 2013 No.866915 >>866506 FullRetard.jpg

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:28:11 2013 No.866920 File: 26 KB, 456x603, assnteets.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >All these crazy in depth discussions of the Megaman story. >Simple, fun, platformer. >Story ??

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:34:12 2013 No.866931 >>861153 which was a plotpoint never again revisited

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:36:11 2013 No.866936 >>861238 well originally in zero 3 they were going to have you know who look like their X sprite, but time constraints

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:37:11 2013 No.866937

>>866920
The story in individual installments of the Classic series was basically just there to facilitate moving the game forward, but the overall plot of the universe is actually very fascinating and full of topics to discuss and mysteries to investigate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:45:41 2013 No.866953 >>865429 Wiel you mean, he was vile in japan, but for some reason outside japan we renamed vava to vile so his name had to be changed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:49:41 2013 No.866957 >>865203 I've tried looking for it to no avail.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:50:11 2013 No.866958 >>866953 >Wiel If you're going to correct his spelling, it'd help if you got it right yourself - it's Weil. I don't even play the English games, seriously, why do I know more about them than you people

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:54:11 2013 No.866963 >>866958 Did i seriously not type Weil? Well then, I guess i just made a typo there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:54:42 2013 No.866965 File: 59 KB, 640x387, サスガダ・・・.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Commander... How is your body?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:56:12 2013 No.866971 >>866965 his body is ready

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 11:59:41 2013 No.866975 >>866963 Still a painful irony that you make a spelling error on the exact word you're correcting another person's spelling of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 12:04:41 2013 No.866990 >>866325 Man, X6 has a excellent soundtrack.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 12:12:11 2013 No.867006 >>865809 What page is the info they're pulling this from?

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 12:17:12 2013 No.867016
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>>866506
The original, flawed prototype android is also Wily's ultimate creation? Just because he's red? Come on man. That doesn't make any sense at all.

It's OK to like two separate characters.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 12:26:11 2013 No.867038

>>866658
Stupid, unfounded fan theories that people try to force onto others as canon are a pretty significant source of annoyance.

There's a point when you have to accept what you believed or chose to believe just does not sync with what we already know.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 12:34:11 2013 No.867062
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>>866430
True enough, but it does allow the Omega storyline to happen, which is kinda cool.

And it would've been so much better with Weil as Wily, and his ultimate creation, Zero's body and the Virus, destroyed by some rebellious AI he had in the body originally. Tainted by the light of Light's forgotten memento.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 13:02:12 2013 No.867136 This thread makes me wanna play all these games. I think I'll buy the Zero collection for DS and then maybe hunt for the ps1-2 X games. I already have the snes games

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 13:13:12 2013 No.867161 >>867136 the price of the X Collection is basically the online price for all 3 PS1 games combined, just so you know

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 13:21:12 2013 No.867179

>>867038

Pretty much this. Zero is not Protoman. None of the robots from the classic series survive in any way over to the X series. (Before anyone shoots me, yes I know Auto makes a cameo in Volt Catfish's intro, it's just a cameo okay).

If you really must believe that Protoman is Zero, that's fine, but at least recognize that there is not a single shred of evidence to support the theory.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 13:24:12 2013 No.867183

>>867161

You can get Megaman X Collection on PS2 for $20-25 easy if you don't go to ebay. I bought mine for $25 off of Kijiji and that was probably overpaying a bit.

PS2 is the way to go for the collection games. I mean, really, they're just cheaper than the Gamecube games, X Collection is the same on both versions and the Gamecube's controller does not lend itself well to classic Megaman.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 14:23:43 2013 No.867298
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>>867183
http://www.amazon.com/Mega-Man-X-Collection-Playstation-2/dp/B0009XBWY6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372875751&sr=8-1&keywords=mega+man+x+collection

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 14:45:12 2013 No.867348 File: 10 KB, 232x223, hori_pads_store[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>867183 >Gamecube's controller does not lend itself well to classic Megaman. >he doesn't own one of these The button layout works fine, even on normal GC pad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 14:52:12 2013 No.867363 >>867348 I never tried it but I feel like dash jumping while holding a charge would be a pain with the GC button layout

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 14:52:42 2013 No.867362

>>867298

Excuse me, I should've noted I live in Canada, where every game is more expensive because shipping from America always fucks everyone in the ass. Shipping from other countries like UK or other EU counties, or Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, etc I've found is always cheaper.

The only country which costs more to ship to Canada than America is Austrailia that I've seen (in terms of vidya)

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 14:57:43 2013 No.867371

>>867363
>what is double tapping
>what are shoulder buttons
X series allows you to change to button config anyway, so it's not like you're confined to preset buttons like with Mega Man Anniversary Collection if you don't like how it works. It still plays just as well as with any other console.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 15:07:12 2013 No.867404 File: 6 KB, 400x400, 1279239665434.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>867371 >Double Tapping >Serious Oh my god. Are you serious? Double tapping to dash is the fucking worst, it's laughable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 15:11:43 2013 No.867416 >>867363 It is. You pretty much have to have a claw grip with the default control scheme. If your fingers are long enough, you can use just 1 finger but uncomfortable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 15:13:43 2013 No.867424 >>867404 I'm sorry if you can't do that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 15:14:43 2013 No.867427 >>867348 That's a nice looking controller. I love the gamecube's own default layout already, but I wouldn't mind getting that. Especially if the L and R feel more like an SNES controller's.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 15:15:12 2013 No.867428 >>867427 They're pretty much spot-on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 15:59:51 2013 No.867521 File: 2.09 MB, 240x180, 1362184842145.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>867404 No it's not, I fucking hate pressing X. It's so much easier to control all horizontal movement with one hand and shooting/vertical with the other.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 16:39:20 2013 No.867605 >>867521 Just use ZX's style - set Dash to L.

>>	Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Wed Jul 3 16:55:17 2013 No.867643 >>867605 Zero games had dash on L too, I think. So Zero's style? R was for alt weapon. I never played the ZX games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 17:31:17 2013 No.867714 >>867643 I skipped Zero and went straight to ZX, so I don't know how Zero's controls go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 17:32:17 2013 No.867716 >>866430 Why was it selfish of Zero to go into Stasis? Didn't he go into stasis because they figured out he was the origin of the virus?

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:02:47 2013 No.867798

>>867716
Sort of. He discovered that his body was a carrier for the virus, and donated it to science. While he was inside. And the two noted scientists taking care of said body? Ciel's unamed ancestor, and WEIL. Weil then steals Zero's body, programs Omega, uses bits of the maverick virus to make Omega's hate plague, and starts the elf wars. Ceil's ancestor then creates Zero's new body, and helps in the fighting. Eventually after 90% of the population dies, X and Zero defeat Omega, and give them to the Judges, who stupidly make Weil immortal as a forever punishment, launch Omega into space, and Zero has Ciel's ancestor seal him. Leaving X, who was probably a bit shaky after all of the previous maverick hunters died in the Elf Wars, to deal with the whiny population by himself, which would cause X to do the same thing later with the Dark Elf, and split his soul into five. (Mystical Cyber Elf X, Paragon Sage Harpuria, Warlike Fighting Fefnir, Loyal Hidden Phantom, and Childlike Fairy Leviathan) Add in the fact that Ciel, who was likely genetically engineered, thought at the wise age of SIX to make Copy X, who then started that whole genocide thing.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:09:48 2013 No.867828

>>867605

My first DS got broken because I was pressing L so much to dash in ZX. It damaged the wire that goes to the top screen and passes by the L button. After that I set dash to A, B as jump, X and Y for attack and set L to change biometal. R was for overdrive attacks. It works a lot better this way I find plus I cannot break my DS

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:11:17 2013 No.867834

>>867798

I don't think Ciel was genetically engineered. By the Zero series humans are still human, it isn't until ZX that they become modified with robotic parts, and not until Legends that humans are genetically modified to the point where they are no longer even human

Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Wed Jul 3 18:13:47 2013 No.867839

>>867716
He went in for a couple reasons (you have to listen to drama tracks and read deep into some guidebook shit to find this info):

1. His new body had sustained damage from his and X's battle with Omega, so it needed repairs (repairs that never got done for some reason, potentially because no one wanted to do it or the only people qualified were too young [Ciel] or stuck on a space station [Weil]).

2. His new body needed serious testing, he hadn't been in it for long and it had only been made recently.

3. He was tired of fighting, having done it for over a hundred years alongside X. This is probably the easiest, best answer.

4. He was worried about potentially being used as a weapon or causing any more damage to the planet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:15:17 2013 No.867848 File: 295 KB, 800x600, zeroxciel_by_khnchak-d4oks1x.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>867834 >http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Ciel Go read the history paragraph, please.

>>	Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Wed Jul 3 18:15:47 2013 No.867850 >>867798 Harpuia, Fefnir, Phantom and Leviathan are copies of X that Ciel created. Each one exhibits a facet of X's personality. One is female-shaped, oddly enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:16:17 2013 No.867859 >>867828 That's what happens when you have a DS Lite.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:18:17 2013 No.867865 File: 548 KB, 612x663, __ice___by_alicepyxis-d35e0bz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>867850 Nope, Ciel learned how to make reploids by watching them being created.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:27:18 2013 No.867897 >>865453 Dr. Weil is, by that point, not even a human at all. His punishment for the Elf Wars fiasco was TO BE PUT INTO A FUCKING CYBERNETIC BODY and forced to live forever. Weil's well beyond a human as of the Zero canon.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:30:47 2013 No.867904

>>865728
Shieldner Shelldon was labeled an Irregular the first time for continuing to protect his charge at the time, a different scientist who had succumbed to the Virus. He was revived during the Nightmare Incident, just like all the others (it's also implied that Alia had a hand in Shelldon's death, just like the others she had a hand in.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:33:47 2013 No.867918 >>866548 I hate this fucking obsession with Protoman. I blame the Protomen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:34:47 2013 No.867921 >>866608 The assumption is the Virus; it's also the reason that people extrapolate that the Evil Energy from X8 is part of the Virus, due to Duo's presence in the Power Battles/Fighter games.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:37:17 2013 No.867932

>>867865
No, MAster X and the Four Kings were specifically created by Ciel. From perfected schematics of X.

It's the specific reason as to why Master X is buttfucking crazy; he didn't have X's diagnostic time, and so his morality was not anywhere near as developed as X.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:56:18 2013 No.867998 File: 102 KB, 868x1020, 1325832191669.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>867848 >Dat awkward one sided romance between a 14 year old and a robot hundreds of years old.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 18:59:48 2013 No.868018 >>867998 Maybe not, if Zero's last words in MMZ4 are any indication...

Anonymous of Jacksonville, Hor(...) !WOLFUPie.. Wed Jul 3 19:31:48 2013 No.868163
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>>867998
Holy shit why is your picture so heavily compressed?

>>867918
Love their music, some of the band members are nice, some seem to be dickish.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 19:35:47 2013 No.868178

This is all bullshit.

The Mega Man series are actuallty a poor attempt at a Zelda II clone. The red hero is the Link expy and Mega Man is princess Zelda (they named the series after her, duh!).

So we got:
- Mega Man: Protoman/Link must save Mega Man/Zelda from Wily/Ganon's eight dungeon/robot masters.
- Megaman X: Zero/Link must save X/Zelda from Sigma/Aghanim's eight Mavericks (who's plotting to resurrect Dr. Wily/Ganon).
- Megaman Zero: Zero/Link must save X/Zelda from the returned Dr.Weil/Ganondorf
- Megaman ZX: The "Majora's Mask" to "Megaman Zero".
- Megaman EXE: The "Oracle" episodes.
- Megaman StarForce: The CDI games.
- Megaman Legends: Fanproject centered on Megaman/Zelda.

More proof:
- Along two series, no character stays: Mega Man becomes X, Protoman becomes Zero, etc... Reincarnation, Protoman/Zero is indeed the Hero Of Time.
- Protoman's red was inspired by Link's red appearance depending on the palette. Though the hero was canonically wearing a green tunic, Inafune chose the red to distance himself from the inspiration and because it looked "rad" (Capcom wanted a "mature" hero). Also note that Protoman uses a shield while Zero uses a sword: they are the Megaman/Zelda's Knights.
- Meanwhile, Mega Man and X are always blue to show their aristocratic lineage. Furthermore, in the Zero series, X is "asleep" and we only see his spirit. Kinda reminds you of a lot of Zelda games, heh?
- Protoman doesn't appear before the second episode because Mega Man I was intended as a prologue.
- In the Zero series, X sacrifices her spirit for the world peace. Didn't Zelda already try that?
- Megaman and Zero using the robot powers is a nod to Link's equipment after each dungeon.
- The teleport system is an answer to the first Zelda's tedious map travelling. Inafune admitted in 2001 he hated the whole "world map bullshit" and thought "why don't Link just teleport to each dungeon's entrance?".
- Zelda II comes out in Jan. 1987. Mega Man 1 in Dec. 1987.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:07:17 2013 No.868341 File: 386 KB, 598x452, 1371160327756.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>868178

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:09:17 2013 No.868349 >>868178 Then why did they come out so close together, with megaman having a longer development cycle?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:11:47 2013 No.868367 >>868178 >grasping at straws the movie: the post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:11:47 2013 No.868371 >>866506 >being this naive

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:12:47 2013 No.868378 >>866971 for garbage day

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:14:47 2013 No.868389 File: 335 KB, 900x688, nasty_surprise_by_general_radix-d5i498h.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>868349

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:21:17 2013 No.868439 >>868349 A whole year is not "close". And they were obviously inspired by the previews so they started development earlier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:23:17 2013 No.868450 File: 3 KB, 122x116, 1276416369332.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>868439 >they were obviously inspired by the previews Yes, it's so obvious. How silly of us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:24:17 2013 No.868452 File: 227 KB, 256x192, x8_team_by_mizz_ninja.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>868439 >previews >1980's

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:31:18 2013 No.868491 >>867859 Well I got my second DS Lite in 2007 and it still works perfectly to this day. All you gotta do is not hammer the L button thousands of times

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 20:33:47 2013 No.868496 >>868491 What if you want to play a game that uses left hand controls plus the touch screen?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 21:37:18 2013 No.868791 >>868491 Where can one get a cheap new DS Lite?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:28:29 2013 No.869363 >>862505 >XD >>>>>>>>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 04:07:03 2013 No.869667 >>863335 >worst palette >cheapest levels >broken weapons >whore

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 05:22:04 2013 No.869813 >>867918 Blues had an intense fan following long before the Protomen were a thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 07:32:04 2013 No.869939 >>861609 The simplest method I can think of is that Wily had trouble controlling Zero so he just put him in a tube like X until he could do something about it but never managed to really finish like Light with X.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 07:52:04 2013 No.869953 File: 48 KB, 290x474, 1360106298403.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Zero's name is zero >Protoman's model is DLN-000

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 08:10:34 2013 No.869976 >>866478 this is probably the worst fan theory of mega man aside from all the weird fujoshit robot master romance garbage

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 08:25:05 2013 No.869993
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>>866910

do you think people are only ever nostalgic about games that came out when you, specifically, were a child, or something?

do you realize that game came out like 12 years ago?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 11:52:06 2013 No.870317 >>867848 If it's not part of the games I don't know about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 11:54:06 2013 No.870321 >>868496 I am left handed, left hand controls means you hold the right side of the DS (R/ABXY).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 12:05:05 2013 No.870340 >>869993 Anyone who's nostalgic over X5 is too young to be here.

Forte SWN-001 Thu Jul 4 12:10:36 2013 No.870350

>>862853
you could argue that zero had been offline for so many years his body in the state it was in wouldn't be able to activate on its own power hence passy being needed in MMZ

>>862858
I see it as more of the zero virus contains data on all previous wily creations ontop of zero's memories which is why shadow devil even exists, its the zero virus creating a previous wily robot to guard the area

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 12:13:36 2013 No.870354 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w6i70ztZKY >getting milk

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 12:14:05 2013 No.870356 >>870340 Do the math, you might get surprised.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 12:15:35 2013 No.870357 >>869953 Amusing, but this needs to stop now.

>>	Forte SWN-001 Thu Jul 4 12:19:35 2013 No.870369 >>865569 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VRUBV7ccsw wow that was a nice use of the drama tracks, animation looked alittle too slow in some scenes 8/10

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 13:19:36 2013 No.870520 Really mods? Are some of you so young that you feel the need to delete posts suggesting you don't belong here? That's just pathetic. >>870356 18 year olds are still too young for /vr/, you know that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 13:22:35 2013 No.870526 File: 436 KB, 774x747, 1370369917182.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>870520 I'm 18, though I had an NES, Genesis, and PS1 when I was a kid. I also visited a couple arcades for some birthdays and a friend with an N64.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 13:23:05 2013 No.870531 >>870350 No, the dialogue with Sigma implies that Wily build the Shadow Devil.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 13:38:36 2013 No.870562 >>863008 Shame they already murdered the series with the atrocity that was BN4. BN6 was just the last hurrah because the series wasn't going anywhere, and they STILL cut shit out of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 17:14:18 2013 No.871170 >>869953 omg, >>868178 was right! >>869976 >worst mega man fan theory You should look up >>868178 Captcha: captivating gemative

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 17:22:07 2013 No.871197 File: 41 KB, 557x733, RCWProtoman[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haven't posted in this thread yet but I've been reading a great deal. Bravo gentlemen. This is one of the most consistently updated threads on /vr/ Bravo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 17:35:07 2013 No.871238 File: 418 KB, 650x490, megaman_exe_by_mizz_ninja-d324lg7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>871197 Welcome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 17:43:37 2013 No.871249 >>868178 Can I buy pot from you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 17:45:38 2013 No.871257 File: 22 KB, 300x350, Yours_Is_Unwelcome_by_General_RADIX.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>871249 yes pic related

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 18:30:37 2013 No.871387
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>Your face when we will never get a game with batshit crazy evil Axel as the final boss.

I'd of preferred his introduction to never happen at all, but the one thing interesting to happen in his narrative never being touched upon again is just as lame.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 18:34:38 2013 No.871392 >>870354 seriously, who the fuck had the idea to turn the misteryous cool lone wolf lost brother into... into I don't even know

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 18:40:07 2013 No.871405 File: 60 KB, 1500x939, trees-high-l[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw Top Man is Pot spelled backwards >mfw Top Man's stage is full of Pot Leaves

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:20:38 2013 No.871520 >>871387 Probably happened in the Elf Wars, or he got killed by Omega before he could go nuts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:42:37 2013 No.871572 File: 239 KB, 735x585, x_making_chocolate_pudding_by_jigglypuffgirl-d42b2uz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>871405

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:42:37 2013 No.871573 >>871405 Go. Just go.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:43:08 2013 No.871578 File: 78 KB, 600x523, 9338db9cbfe97154ec6a100ce8bfae7b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>871520 I'm taking the X series has a split timeline theory. New Gen Reploids have no place in the timeline up to and including Zero.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:45:08 2013 No.871590 >>871578 Where do you place the split?

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:55:38 2013 No.871624
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>>871578
After X6.
Like it or not, Zero coming back into action is part of the Zero series canon, as his going into stasis sometime in the future prior to the Elf Wars.

And in X7 is the first appearance of Axl and New Generation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:09:37 2013 No.871674 >>871405 Urafaget.jpeg

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:12:37 2013 No.871692 File: 42 KB, 700x300, 169.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>871674

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 00:15:07 2013 No.872343 >>862818 >where Wily uses a time machine to kidnap a future Mega Man (from a time beyond that of Legends 2) Wily only goes 32.5 years into the future with the time skimmer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 01:19:08 2013 No.872513 Because this is a megaman thread i'll ask here, are the megamix/gigamix manga good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:33:37 2013 No.872812 >>872513 Yes, very. What I read of them certainly was anyways, never finished it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:47:38 2013 No.872853 >>862856 No offense, but the lolicon guy's maverick designs were way better than anything Inafune ever drew for MMX, and you're forgetting that every classic robot master were designed by japanese children.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:49:08 2013 No.872859
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>>872513
Yes.
As are the Archie comics, actually. Though the latter seem obsessed with quoting The Megas are some memes every now and then, though not in the most direct ways.

For example, on a little bio page, for Airman's it begins with "It was said no one could defeat him..."

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:30:37 2013 No.872953

>>865570
>Blues is blind theory
Dude,you are the first person I've ever heard to think the same. I'm not even kidding, I've never seen anybody mention that,

At the very least, I don't think his eyes are normal, I think he's got laser eyes or Sniper Joe style eyes for both of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:35:37 2013 No.872964 >>872953 We don't mention it because it's obviously true and old news.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:36:19 2013 No.872967

>>866395
Canon wise? Nah,Zero isn't like Protoman. Protoman's doomed to the life he chose, he's gonna be the coolest and strongest character until he dies by the power core. Wily fixing him in MM3 was a one time deal after Protoman realized Wily is a shady fucker. Design wise? Oh yeah it's easily noticeable that Inafune was channeling Protman into Zero. Mainly the red/white/dash of yellow color scheme. The sword replaces the shield (Protoman even gets the hair and shield in Battle Network) and viola.

It's remarkable how Wily didn't mess with Protoman's circuits when he fixed him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:40:37 2013 No.872973 >>867918 Actually? I blame the fact that he never had a separate game series. Seriously, it's weird that he was sort of ignored. Maybe it was just to maintain mystery.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:48:08 2013 No.872985

>>872859
>Obsessed with quoting memes
They've made 3 references that people got WAY TOO bent out of shape over.

They completely forget things like Dr. Wily taking over Megaman's brain during the adaptation of Megaman 2 by putting a Trojan Horse program in all the weapons data and making him his soldier. The original 6 RM had to save him and nearly die in the process.

They're forgetting that there's a OC terrorist cell that is willing to kill Dr. Light to keep him from building robots.

They're forgetting that it's the first American Megaman anything to reference that Protoman's real name is Blues and that Protoman/Breakman is his codename.

It's a damn good comic. I know that you agree that it is, but don't sell it short by claiming it does nothing but spout memes.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:50:37 2013 No.872987

>>867918
Proto Man's actually pretty cool.

As a kid, I didn't like him. I wasn't a fan of the ultra dark badass seen some shit characters like Cable or Zero. But then when I became older I kind of realized who Proto Man was. It made sense as well.

You could very easily see Proto Man as an abandoned kid who deep down wants to be with his father. The Ending music in Mega Man 3 kind of reinforce this.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:55:37 2013 No.872995
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>>872985
The chick from Zero 4 as one of the reporters in the first volume was a pretty neat little easter egg.

As was Light's monologue about wanting to find the "X factor" of free will.

Wasn't too keen on the Sonic crossover.
I knew it was coming, and I admit I haven't read it. All they have in common is that the hero is blue, fight evil scientists, and are video game characters with Red Friend/Rivals and Black Rival/ Sometimes Ally.....

....Fuck.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:01:08 2013 No.873002

>>872987
He's not edgy dark badass like Shadow the Hedgehog or even a bit of Bass.

Protoman's basically Racer X. He's the rockstar that exists in another realm (probably a travelling super hero). There's an entire game where he's framed for attempting world domination and has a super evil fortress with his name on it but he shows up for five seconds to prove Darkman wrong. He also has his head peeking out behind Mega Man and Light for a SPLIT SECOND before leaving. He pops in once in a while, but he's given up on Light, he doesn't trust him anymore. The only reason he keeps coming back is he cares about his little brother (again, like Racer X).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:01:38 2013 No.873001 >>872995 Sonic is DBZ though. I'm not picking up the Megaman comic until after the Sonic crossover. I know that Ian's work on Sonic is really cool, but I'd rather read a Megaman comic with just Megaman in it.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:04:37 2013 No.873006
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>>872995
Rush/Tails: Stalwart canine ally who helps with Transportation and utilities.
Protoman/Knuckles: Red friend of hero who was one time duped by the villain to hunt the hero. Somewhat of a loner. Main rival until....
Bass/Shadow: Tied backstory to main villain. Mostly antagonistic, will sometimes work with hero if entire world is in stake, or if big bad's intent is against both. Hero's main rival, also has their own form of the hero's Super / Powered Up forms.
Duo/Silver: Somewhat alien, from a different time/place, who helps the hero due to their strong sense of justice.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:11:37 2013 No.873014
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I think what happened is that Light cared more about the personality and the artificial intelligence and Wily cared more about actual robotics.

If you ask me? Wily pursued immortality in fake robot duplicates. He might've even died at some point in the classic series and we wouldn't even know (Mega Man 10 might prove that wrong, but he could've been bluffing about the flu and actually have had a minor case of Roboenza). Light pursued holograms and AI to make X and his capsules, but Wily was betting on durability and numbers rather than the promise of such technology (which he wasn't that good with). Thus Zero's an invincible badass that can die more than I can count and X is the one with a conscious for all.

That would also be supported by the fact that Wily basically made half of the backup Sigma bodies, and he even let Sigma have Gamma as a body (and the reliability of Gamma existing into the X timeline speaks wonders of the Wily/Light robot durability.)

The REAL question is how long the Light AI and the Wily robot dupes/Zero virus survive? Did Wily survive into Mega Man Legends? I could see him settling down after the world basically was destroyed, and he might revel in Kattleox constantly being destroyed every couple centuries. I think it's weird his reaction to Roll and Mega Man at least in MML, it's sort of a "you two like machines? Yeah, you two can do whatever you want with this boat, my gift to you" It's a weird gesture for ANY version of Wily.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:23:37 2013 No.873023
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>>873014
Sometimes an easter egg is an easter egg.
Speaking of Legends at least.

I'd like to think at somepoint, unless X and Zero are completely brain dead, they'd look into all of Sigma's hints and Zero's nightmares EVENTUALLY.

Or just have a nice sit down chat with Light's AI, since Zero can fucking chat with him apparently, and he can upgrade him.

And yes, I am saying Black Zero and Ultimate Armor are canon.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:27:07 2013 No.873025
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>>873023
Took the hints and looked into Wily and did something about it****

I cant see Wily ever being benign, ever. Even into the far future of Legends.

He's caused way too much death.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:28:37 2013 No.873027

>>873023
>Sometimes an easter egg is an easter egg.
Yeah, I can certainly see that. Auto in X3 (was it?) rings that bell. I dunno, Wily's a different league. Even if he's not the real Wily, the significance of a version of Wily being nice to Mega Man and Roll is a weird sight to behold. Especially for the time, Battle Network didn't really do that for a while.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:31:37 2013 No.873035

>>873025
It's weird, Wily's easily one of the most interesting characters.

He's the crazy kooky mad scientist that always gets away and can never be trusted, but he also bears some SERIOUS grudges. If it wasn't for Mega Man 9 and 10, the fact that he absorbed the evil energy in 8 would be a good canon reason why he was a more serious presence in X.

Is the head bump canon or was he always a dick and just came out with it during MM1?

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:33:07 2013 No.873038
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>>873027
Given the Zero poster in the store in Legends 2, maybe Wily is a manga artist just reveling in his last creations glory days.

And maybe he's nice to Mega Man and Roll since He knows Mega Man is a purifier, is technically one of the bad guys, and before he went Goku and lost his programming as a baby was supposed to help eradicate the population.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:34:38 2013 No.873039

>Mega Man kills himself in time loop
>Protoman does crazy adventures until his core dies
>Light builds X and dies of old age
>Roll happily goes with expiration date
>Wily still is fucking pissed and builds Zero and Zero virus before dying
>Duo goes to have adventures in space

The only one that doesn't really have a good ending in my mind is Bass. What the fuck does he do?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:39:07 2013 No.873048 File: 1.25 MB, 1500x1200, 1311291376358.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>873039 Every new model needs a test dummy.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:44:37 2013 No.873053
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So, totally unrelated, but we were speaking earlier about X's hesitation, yet his knowing that sometimes the job has to be done.

While the other flash animation was much better, this one is done by the same guy and I feel captures X's resolve perfectly, especially taking the beginning cinematic into account, then skipping to 4:40 to about 6:10 or so.

Like, seriously, the little bit around the 6:00 mark where it all comes together actually really gets me every time. X and Zero are the hetero Romeo and Juliet if there ever was such a thing. In my opinion there is no better friendship in all of vidya. Or as meaningful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:47:07 2013 No.873058 File: 26 KB, 500x424, 21169_public_diary0066100000006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>873053 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McjxOBZrmoo Flash in question, derp.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 06:09:07 2013 No.873092 File: 163 KB, 666x492, mm6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are these life icons supposed to represent?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 06:11:37 2013 No.873097 >>873053 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McjxOBZrmoo its cool but lets be honest the guy writes like an autistic 13 year old

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 06:14:07 2013 No.873104 >>873053 >X uses every armor he has switching between them on the fly >Zero swats shit thats thrown at him like flies sigh if only capcom invested in good ideas like this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 06:30:07 2013 No.873126 >>872995 Dammit, why didn't I save that image from the crossover where Bass knocks Tails the fuck out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 06:37:38 2013 No.873141 >>873053 >>873104 To be honest, I still stick with the idea that when X can be at his best without armours when he just grows to that point... which we never see because Capcom didn't give two shits on expanding on X's story.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 06:38:38 2013 No.873145 >>873092 Stages that don't have Beat parts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 06:48:37 2013 No.873154 File: 330 KB, 590x476, Medi-don't-care.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>873126

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 07:08:37 2013 No.873190 >>870562 BN4 was great, salvaged the series after 3 nearly killed it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 07:10:08 2013 No.873192 >>872953 >Sniper Joe style eyes Blues confirmed for the Char's Personal Zaku of Rockman universe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 13:46:39 2013 No.873971 File: 436 KB, 530x496, Quickman can't go fast.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>872859 >>872985

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 13:47:39 2013 No.873975 >>873092 You need to go back into all those blank stages and fight the REAL bosses.

>>	Kage !!CKhi3Y7AOqx Fri Jul 5 14:27:09 2013 No.874081 >>870562 I think BN6 is my favorite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 16:30:10 2013 No.874425 >>861381 And then X7 and X8 flushed all that plot down the toilet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 16:35:10 2013 No.874441 >>873971 Oh shit. Sonic goes up against Quickman?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 16:39:09 2013 No.874450 >>862859 >Leviathan My waifu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 16:46:39 2013 No.874461 >Maverick Hunter X >bosses move in slow motion

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 19:22:09 2013 No.874886 File: 719 KB, 920x720, x.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone here collect figuarts?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 22:48:58 2013 No.875617 >>874441 Yes. It's rather brief though, don't get your hopes up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 22:53:58 2013 No.875632 >>874886 Sure do. I have 9 sealed boxes of figures

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 00:58:29 2013 No.875996

So wait, we know that Inafune really just wanted to write Zero and not X, and that if left unchecked X either would've actually gone evil in Zero series instead of it turning out to be a copy, or just wouldn't have existed at all. Obviously it was executive meddling that kept him from doing those, but then who came up with the paths they took X down and/or wrote his dialogue? Was it still Inafune, or someone else? Because as it is, X is probably the most fleshed out and well-developed character in the overall franchise, and I love how he ended up in the end - we see him in the X series starting off as eager(ish) to fight the Irregulars, then later on in the series starting to doubt himself a bit before going on to Zero, where at last he's too spiritually exhausted from years of conflict and all but gives up, and then at last in ZX he finds his answer and his resolve.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 01:18:58 2013 No.876037 >>874886 Don't you mean D-arts in this case? yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 15:07:54 2013 No.877648 >>876037 I assume he means any and all X figures, not just D-Arts

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 16:58:24 2013 No.877923 >>874886 I do X - excellent X First armor - Even better Zero V1 - HORRIBLE, DO NOT BUY Zero V2 - Infinitely better than V1, great quality Vile - great detail but very unstable and fragile. Mega man - decent, not as poseable as the X D-Arts though.

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