A HEATED DEBATE

[Anonymous No.8586635]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>8573823

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

[Anonymous No.8586637]

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461
Current release
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18le6ho89YT_myg8CiUUk2mw1439zPyyJ/view

=== NEWS ===
[02-01] /vr/ Mondo Project announced
>>8584531

[01-30] John W. Galt has passed away
https://twitter.com/E1M1magazine/status/1487866897551044608

[01-30] ModOhFun! 3.4 - Released
https://darsycho.itch.io/modohfun/devlog/340835/modohfun-34-released

[01-29] Doom Delta version 2.4.0b released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1211719#p1211719

[01-29] GZDoom engine Beyond Sunset demo released
https://metacorp.itch.io/beyond-sunset

[01-28] Powerslave/Exhumed is coming February 10
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/1486906914017583108

[01-26] Romero's doing a post-mortem for Wolfenstein 3D at GDC
https://www.gdconf.com/news/john-romero-presents-wolfenstein-3d-postmortem-gdc-2022

[01-23] EXODUS for doom released
https://youtu.be/YI6EV7_cv6I

[01-23] GZDoom engine FPS Mala Petaka demo released
https://youtu.be/SHK3Iv71jpY

[01-22] Blood 2 developer disc found
https://twitter.com/benmcoleman/status/1483182402847473665

[01-21] ROTT Remaster delayed to this year, now being published by Apogee
https://www.gamespress.com/en-US/Apogee-Entertainment-Publishing-Rise-of-the-Triad-Remastered-on-PC-Con

[01-18] Microsoft has acquired Activision Blizzard and now owns Heretic and Hexen, among others

[01-17] Laser Justice, a classic shmup inspired mod for Doom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=74458

[01-15] E[X]tended Mapedit for Blood released
https://twitter.com/BloodHispano/status/1482438772285489164

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[Anonymous No.8586659]

[Anonymous No.8586718]

What's your favorite Doom weapon pack? Honestly have been enjoying the plutoniaguy set in Final Doomer a lot lately.

[Anonymous No.8586724]

>>8586718
Trailblazer has to be one of my favorites. Just OP enough to not feel broken.

[Anonymous No.8586726]

>>8586718
Dakka
>>8586724
I wouldn't say it's not broken, upgrade or double upgrade any weapon and you can just exclusively use that through almost anything.

It's just not as broke as his other mods.

[Anonymous No.8586730]

>>8586718
Seconding DAKKA

[Anonymous No.8586731]

>>8586726
>>8586730
Man I completely forgot about Dakka. Good shit.

[Anonymous No.8586741]

>>8586659
DELETE THIS

[Anonymous No.8586746]

[Anonymous No.8586749]

New bestiary just dropped

[Anonymous No.8586753]

Any mods that tribute Fallout?

[Anonymous No.8586756]

>>8586726
Trailblazer definitely makes you OP but it still feels like you're actually playing the video game as opposed to Guncaster or Russian Overkill where its basically Gib Simulator

[Anonymous No.8586761]

>>8586753
Ashes?

[Anonymous No.8586768]

>>8586718
I spliced FinalDoomer's Whitemare set with Hellbound one and tweaked some stuff further. A bit more unbalanced, but fun.

[Anonymous No.8586774]

>>8586761
Thanks looks fun.

[Anonymous No.8586858]

I went on the internet today, and I found this.

[Anonymous No.8586860]

>>8586749
I like the second and third from the right on the bottom row. the rest are a bit messy.

[Anonymous No.8586881]

>>8586858
The... thing she's wearing on her crotch looks very uncomfortable. I week for her clitoris.

[Anonymous No.8586882]

Remember when we bitched the game was too dark?

[Anonymous No.8586889]

>>8586881
It's okay, she's a tribal.

[Anonymous No.8586890]

>>8586881
It's okay, she likes the pain.

[Anonymous No.8586915]

>>8586882
I thought we bitched about the opposite

[Anonymous No.8586940]

>>8586756
Maybe you could balance out the OPness of Trailblazer weapons by having a good harder enemy pack? Do you guys have a favorite?

[Anonymous No.8586953]

>>8586940
I've used the enemies from Project MSFix'd before since they more difficult than vanilla.

[Anonymous No.8586957]

>>8586635
Being going through Speed of Doom. Don't have much experience with much outside of original WADs and have been getting my ass kicked, but it's been mostly fun. Just picked a WAD that people thought was hard but good/fair at random. Are things like Ancient Aliens way better, worse or about the same?

[Anonymous No.8586959]

I'm calling "Made Away Themselves" done, but there's always room for improvement. Thanks to Anon for the playtesting and finding skips. I've (mostly) eliminated them and have tweaked a few things to improve gameplay.

You'll need a Boom compatible port, and this map works with DSDA and GZDoom.

Get it here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19kuWbjGwdIWwEjoc4S3d8HThJcv84T8j/view?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.8586994]

>>8586957
About the same. When you are done with Speed Of Doom, play it's sequel resurgence. It's much harder, but also as fun as original.

[Anonymous No.8586998]

>>8586994
Sure. I'm not looking for harder necessarily, going into Speed of Doom straight out of Doom 2 is making me feel like a bit of a casual (Ultra Violence), wouldn't mind some more "aesthetic" and fun maps to see what Doom WADs can offer, not to get destroyed even harder.

Between the OP and the Cacoawards I probably have enough maps for the next 10 years though so I think I'm good.

[Anonymous No.8587029]

>>8586749
The first one on second row looks like something out of silent hill

[Anonymous No.8587189]

Copying this over because I'm too tired to write up a new post at the moment.
Got a public release for my DIY entry. The map name is called Checksum. Make sure you load it with the DIY_resources_v1.5 wad from here: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126692-cp-doom-it-yourself-diy-get-imaginative-with-bold-colors/
Also make sure you're using a port that supports MBF21. All feedback is appreciated. This map is basically me unleashing my stream of consciousness into virtual form. So each room is completely different from one another. Whatever idea popped into my head I mapped it and moved onto the next. If things seem weird then that's why. Ammo and enemy spawns are probably fucked in some spots so please give me any suggestions you might have.

https://files.catbox.moe/jq21qj.wad

[Anonymous No.8587219]

>>8586749
why is everything so blurry and full of alfa-ed pixels?

[Anonymous No.8587280]

>>8586749
>Top row, fourth from right

[Anonymous No.8587328]

>>8587280
shit I mean left

[Anonymous No.8587329]

>sniper cyberdemon gets teleported away
>still hear his death scream in the far distance

[Anonymous No.8587346]

Why did lilith.pk3 make him so seethe so much that he nearly ceased all development on gzdoom?

[Anonymous No.8587384]

Serious Sam TFE's first levels have great enemy placement, the single frog after the frog swarm room followed by another frog swarm is kino, didn't expect that

[Anonymous No.8587391]

>>8587346
Only an engine dev would get mad at lilith.pk3. Mostly because of how much it fucks with it.

[Anonymous No.8587395]

>>8587384
Are you serious?

[Anonymous No.8587416]

>>8587280
stolen/traced assets are nothing new in modding community

[Anonymous No.8587423]

I want to make an old school fps, what can i use to fuck around and then publish something?

[Anonymous No.8587446]

>>8586749
Gengar what are you doing here?

[Anonymous No.8587458]

>>8587446
What a cutie

[Anonymous No.8587474]

>>8587346
Because he advertises GZDoom as a perfect sourceport working with any mod?

[Anonymous No.8587545]

DOOM ETERNAL

[Anonymous No.8587547]

>>8587545
carcass in metadoom when?

[Anonymous No.8587563]

>>8587547
would be epic. love that enemy so much

[Anonymous No.8587648]

[Anonymous No.8587652]

>>8584837
If I was making something 2.5D, I would NEVER use either of these. GZDoom is better, but both of them are very messy engines that arent optimized for modern systems and are full of messy legacy code for backwards-compatibility.

[Anonymous No.8587693]

>>8586882
Thats pretty smart if they want to avoid people thinking the colors arent exactly as they remember it on their CRT 20 years ago.

[Anonymous No.8587694]

>>8586858
Hunter needs her own game.

[Anonymous No.8587776]

>>8586858
Now make her fatter.

[Anonymous No.8587816]

>>8587648
what is this a reference to?

[Anonymous No.8587823]

has anyone ever useed Freedoom for it's intender purpose?
Does anyone here use Freedoom?

[Anonymous No.8587830]

>>8587823
If you're asking if I've played the Freedoom IWADs, yes, but I've never finished them. I just really dislike the art style.

[Anonymous No.8587849]

>>8587545
>doom eternal
no
>eternal doom
yes

[Anonymous No.8587863]

>>8587823
I've played through the campaigns, and also finished a megawad with it as iwad (Icarus alien vanguard) to mix things up
The later enemies (cyberdemon, spider mastermind) are unfinished, others are low quality (archvile, revenant) but the lower enemies being insectoids and the worm demon are pretty neat and the textures, sounds and weapons are good enough (though the weapons sound a bit too soft but you get used to it). Level design is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.8587873]

>>8587346
because lilith couldn't work on GZ because all the bugs lilith used for ZDoom were fixed in GZ (which you'd think he would happy to hear). he was also pissed that lilith won a award instead of wads that fully used GZ's full potential.

[Anonymous No.8587891]

>>8587823
Circa ~2007 when I was a kid who was too stupid to pirate doom2.wad I used freedoom for about a year.

[Anonymous No.8587906]

I'm stuck at Descent 2's Level 16.
Who the fuck though that making an invisible, immune to all but one weapon, teleporting, homing nuke firing, flashbanging, robot spawning, tanky piece of shit as a mid-game boss was a good idea.
And if you die, you lose all of your weapons in the same room as him so you have to avoid his bullshit for long enough to resupply and try to take him down.
I definitely like the first game better.
Better textures, better/ more music, better enemies, better balance.
Still, I want to finish this one as well because it's great when it clicks.

[Anonymous No.8587973]

>>8586635
I wonder who voiced Caleb in the Blood games?

[Anonymous No.8587978]

>>8587395
yes

[Anonymous No.8587986]

>>8587973
Stephan Weyte

[Anonymous No.8588010]

>>8586881
she's circumcised

[Anonymous No.8588012]

>>8588010
>She's circumcised
I wonder if her circumcision included the removal of her clitoris.

[Anonymous No.8588116]

>>8587830
Im asking if you use it instead of the DOOM and DOOM2 iwads

[Anonymous No.8588119]

>>8587346
>>8587873
Strictly because it had code to force it to not be playable in GZDoom, because it hard crashed from the third map onwards in GZDoom, which is why Graf and Rachael lost their shit over it despite it being an incredibly unique situation and the ZDoom forums claiming to welcome mods for source ports that aren't GZDoom.

Really it's because it hurt his ego, he desperately wanted Waterlab GZD to win an award and I think it only got a runner up or a mention.

The other thing to take away is he disappeared for a long time and quietly tried to start up a Build Engine port of his own during that time.

Term is like the nicest person in the community and he nearly killed GZDoom development just by giving it a cacoward on merit alone.

[Anonymous No.8588126]

I got the coof bros. I don't have any friends but I post here a lot. I don't want my parents to die bros

[Anonymous No.8588132]

[Anonymous No.8588136]

>>8587823
I do, I sometimes play Doom / Doom 2 wads with Freedoom and I sometimes run Freedom maps through Doom and Doom 2.

Keeps things interesting, and it's funny to run Doom The Way We Remember It with FreeDoom assets.

[Anonymous No.8588139]

>>8588126
Unless your parents are fat as fuck or over 60 there's less than a 1% chance they'll die, each.

[Anonymous No.8588143]

>>8587816
it's the final boss of a shoot-em-up called Ketsui
people like to edit it into other games, for some reason

[Anonymous No.8588153]

>>8588139
X-COM players sweating bullets

[Anonymous No.8588157]

>>8588132
>female fun

[Anonymous No.8588159]

>>8588157
No. No rape, ape. Consensual ape.

[Anonymous No.8588160]

>>8588126
Just pretend that you're adopted and you should feel a bit better about it.
Jokes aside, I hope you recover as soon as possible and your parents will be fine.

[Anonymous No.8588161]

>>8588132
need big stuff

[Anonymous No.8588164]

>>8588159
You cannot stop me.

[Anonymous No.8588172]

>>8588139
They're 70 with health problems.

I think I'll unironically kill myself if my parents die. Anyway. I'm excited for Powerslave.

[Anonymous No.8588184]

>>8588172
Shit, well RIP they're in the risk group. Keep them away from you and buy an N95 if you can afford it.

[Anonymous No.8588193]

>>8588132
>made doom /vr/ wad best

[Anonymous No.8588232]

>>8588132
>shemale suck

[Anonymous No.8588265]

>>8588119
>The other thing to take away is he disappeared for a long time and quietly tried to start up a Build Engine port of his own during that time.
Is that why Raze exists? That's hilarious, maybe it was a good thing in the end, love that shit.

[Anonymous No.8588342]

>>8588172
My 4 grandparents are all over 80 and caught it last year, my two grandfathers had heart surgery before, one grandmother has diabetes, all survived the flu, and omicron is even less deadly than what we had. Just be cautious to avoid them catching it from you, don't tempt fate, but it's not a death sentence either. Take it easy anon.

[Anonymous No.8588354]

>>8588012
that's what FGM is, anon.

[Anonymous No.8588356]

In a better timeline, Master Levels would have never existed and Perdition's Gate and Hell to Pay would be considered official.

[Anonymous No.8588372]

>>8587816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWyc5qh7CnQ
Boss is literally called Evaccaneer DOOM

[Anonymous No.8588424]

>>8587776
Rest assured that if I were an artist, I absolutely would. But I'm not, so I can't.

>>8587694
It's hard to think of a Q3/QC character who wouldn't work in their own game, but yeah, Hunter would be my first choice.

[Anonymous No.8588431]

I need a new /vr/ fps, but I already played all the well known ones. What are some that are more obscure but still good? it can be a console game as well

[Anonymous No.8588446]

>>8588424
She wouldn't need even voice acting or one liners, just some tna physics and I am good.
Her design is cool alone. The way shit is going we are never going to get another dumb heavy metal scifi fantasy era. Shame. Although if i gave her personality, I think a tongue in cheek sword and sorcery vibe would work well. Partner her up with Mynx as a bounty hunter duo travelling around the galaxy.

But no, we need more oatmeal brunettes.

[Anonymous No.8588467]

>>8588446
>She wouldn't need even voice acting or one liners
The little laugh she does with her taunt in Q3A is so cute, though. She already has a bit of personality anyway through the bot text chat lines- royal pride with a fair bit of snarkiness and an unrelenting hatred of the Sorg.
> Partner her up with Mynx as a bounty hunter duo travelling around the galaxy.
Shoot, I could see it. One's in it just for the money and ultraviolence, and the other just wants to eradicate anything that has scales and walks on two legs and doesn't even care about getting paid. And of course, excellent TnA physics as you said.

[Anonymous No.8588480]

>>8588342
I caught it last week and stayed 7 days at home, I had a wicked sore throat and had a bit of shivers but other than that I was alright.

I had way worse stay radioactive for days sick spells when i was a teen. i even had to take penicillin in my ass one time.

At least I got to play alkaline and some other games all week.

>>8588467
It would be awesome yeah, Hunter would be the straight royal tsundere and Mynx, well, a slutty seductive femme fatale. its not rocket science. Both would bounce off each other really well. Bonus if their targets were dumb ps3 era bland bald john space marines.

[Anonymous No.8588489]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZVqqRxws60

[Anonymous No.8588494]

>>8586858
>>8587776

one liquify brush later

Boy Hunter really let herself go huh

[Anonymous No.8588496]

>>8586959
Excellent map anon. Your layout and detailing is top notch, the remixed "Into the Beasts Belly" fits nicely as well.

Now for my criticisms, you put way too many hell knights / pinkies after the first red door. I ended up triggering them all and funneling them through said door into the circular corridor. The blue key fight is fucking nuts, nice job but I can't imagine beating it without the secret invulnerability.

Everyone likes the rocket launcher, but the lack of weapon variety (for most of the map) is noticed. The lava platforms that make lift noises are a bit silly as well. The teleporting archvile section became fucking aggravating after 5 minutes and the rest kinda devolved into slaughter after that. It also took much longer than anticipated to complete because I suck at doom.

[Anonymous No.8588498]

Why not Nightmare Pacifist or UV Solo Net categories?

[Anonymous No.8588541]

>>8588480
Mynx could have tons of John Q. Spess Mehreens, being a bounty hunter and all, but Hunter's side would be the perfect place to stick all the weird dinosaurs and aliens and space pirates and everything else that you'd want to put in a game but would otherwise have to make the whole setting about it. Smashing Venusians and Chtonians' heads in can't be that much different from flaying a Sorg.

>>8588494
You're a maniac of the best kind who knows how to make the Liquify tool work. Absolutely delicious. GOD I WANT HER TO JUST FUCKING SMOTHER ME AAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.8588682]

>>8588541
Thanks. I only know of the tool's existance and basic function so im sure there are people who could do 100x better than my 1 minute job.

Should get off my butt and work on sounds for this skin so I can upload it for the 0.00001% of doom players that might actually use it

[Anonymous No.8588684]

>>8588424
>t's hard to think of a Q3/QC character who wouldn't work in their own game
Orbb?

[Anonymous No.8588692]

i love the look of these sprites
https://twitter.com/AmuscariaArts/status/1488722644090470402

[Anonymous No.8588707]

>>8587346
Autism, mainly.

>>8588119
He really shouldn't care so much about Cacowards, they're .pngs
Be proud of waterlabs on its actual merits instead.

[Anonymous No.8588716]

>>8588692
these look awesome, kinda reminds me of Doom 64's sprites

[Anonymous No.8588717]

>>8588684
I want a Super Orbb Bros. sidescroller.

>>8588692
Cool, makes me think of an idea I had.

[Anonymous No.8588741]

>>8588682
Hey, it's still pretty good. You've got the proportions down well and even if the quality isn't pristine, the concept (tribal warrior gone soft through long unemployment/no new game and fast food comfort) elevates it in lewdness anyway. At least in my book, haha.

[Anonymous No.8588745]

I do NOT remember Oasis in TFE having so many "fuck you" traps, like spawning major biomechanoids right in your face.

[Anonymous No.8588761]

I'm not creative and don't even know where to start at mapping. what i should do?

[Anonymous No.8588773]

>>8588684
Way ahead of you.

[Anonymous No.8588776]

>>8588761
Play bad maps and write down what you hate about them. Then start making maps.

[Anonymous No.8588778]

>>8588707
>He really shouldn't care so much about Cacowards,
His clique got so salty they tried to instigate their own awards to please him with, except everybody just took the piss out of them instead.

[Anonymous No.8588787]

>>8588778
ZDF users are insane retards. What else is new?
Speaking of awards, if /vr/ mondo project takes off, I wouldn't mind seeing the Golden Boners making a comeback to highlight the best of those submissions.

[Anonymous No.8588816]

>>8588541
>>8588480
the world needs more mynx and hunter r34

[Anonymous No.8588826]

Is that guy who was making the new version of the Doom guide for the OP still around? How's progress going on that?

[Anonymous No.8588828]

>>8588826
Don't worry anon, I'm still kicking, just haven't had much time to work on it lately.

[Anonymous No.8588836]

>>8588139
1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 is still not great odds when it comes to dying.

[Anonymous No.8588865]

>>8588431
PC version of Powerslave
Requiem: Avenging Angel
Outlaws

[Anonymous No.8588868]

>>8588356
I don't think those mapsets are even close to as good as Final Doom. Now, the Perdition's Gate we got is because it was finished by someone else, but if you look at Tom Mustaine's own levels in that set (and in TNT), they're really very uninspired, samey, and dull. Imagine him getting to work on filling the entire rest of the mapset on his own.

They couldn't get the Casalis, because they were working Plutonia 24/7, so what other people were available at that time which could contribute some actual variety to the game?

[Anonymous No.8588898]

>>8588139

[Anonymous No.8588902]

>>8588132

[Anonymous No.8588947]

>>8588787
/v/ was running some sort of awards thing earlier, they had a fun interface for it too. How secure was that against basic fraud, and could we rip it off?

[Anonymous No.8588951]

>>8588761
what the other guy said, but also play good maps and write down what you like about them

[Anonymous No.8588967]

>>8588865
Thanks, mate!

[Anonymous No.8589050]

>>8588836
For the record, if they were ~40 and in shape their chance of dying would be like 1 in ~100000. UK has a risk calculator, I'd suggest putting in info for your whole family just to know.

[Anonymous No.8589143]

Any good Hexen map sets that don't share the same problems Hexen had? I just discovered Schism and want to play it.

[Anonymous No.8589185]

>>8587693
>20 years ago.
Closer to 25.

[Anonymous No.8589203]

>>8588446
>The way shit is going we are never going to get another dumb heavy metal scifi fantasy era.
FAKK2 remake never.

[Anonymous No.8589243]

>>8589143
Tower Of Chaos

[Anonymous No.8589283]

>>8588132
giving intelligent feedback
retro boring
melee completely shitty
serious gameplay always funny
normal animation marketing
design idea without bald women
shotgun another fact
start wads together
almost wanted supplice
actual design makes dick older
sorry insane sandy

[Anonymous No.8589291]

Is it fair to say that the Tome of Power from Heretic is like a proto secondary fire for FPS'es before secondary fire really became a thing?

[Anonymous No.8589294]

>>8589291
That's a weird wavelength, Anon. Because I was thinking the same thing the other day.

[Anonymous No.8589332]

>>8589291
I guess, kinda?

[Anonymous No.8589353]

>>8588868
All of his TNT levels are good,

[Anonymous No.8589419]

>>8589203
It's okay, Heavy Metal mag is pretty much dead anyway. I'd rather see a bunch of fans who care take a crack at a similar concept or setting than an actual remake.

[Anonymous No.8589448]

>>8588157
>>8588232
>hedon dick

[Anonymous No.8589510]

>>8589419
>It's okay, Heavy Metal mag is pretty much dead anyway.
I usually avoiding sperging out about these things in the Doom thread, but pic related made me so fucking angry. The tl;dr is they covered up Taarna with an ugly suit of armour and the snooty cunt running their Instagram just kept making passive aggressive posts like this. Heavy Metal Magazine from its very inception was dripping with sexuality, yet these people felt entitled enough to infiltrate it, fundamentally alter it to suit their tastes and shit on anyone who doesn't like it.

If you don't like the way something is, just leave it the fuck alone. No one's forced these people to stare at the thighs of comic book ladies.

[Anonymous No.8589512]

>>8589419
Not like you could really do it properly without Julie Strain either.

[Anonymous No.8589641]

>>8588489
My balls your face

[Anonymous No.8589648]

>>8587189
Anon, would you want someone of average skill to play through it and share a demo/video of their playthrough? I usually do GZDoom with close to vanilla settings but I can use another port if you are curious.

[Anonymous No.8589658]

>>8589648
Yes, please. That would be awesome!

[Anonymous No.8589670]

>>8589143
Shadows of Cronos
Has some Hexen 2 textures, some Hexen 2 music and they fit really well.

[Anonymous No.8589708]

Am I going crazy or was there a zdoom mod that replaced the music with a heavy metal playlist of pirated songs by judas priest, metallica, etc. and allowed for keyboard shortcuts to shuffle and skip songs that I just can't seem to find anywhere? Anyone remember that? Am I imagining this mod after playing the game with the songs in the background or was it just deleted from the internet?

[Anonymous No.8589718]

>>8589708
That's Term's Now That's What I Call MIDI, you should be able to find it in the ZDF thread for Demonsteele.

[Anonymous No.8589739]

>>8589658
Ok Anon just to confirm I'm not going crazy, did you forget to put a rocket launcher down? There's so much ammo pretty much everywhere and no rocket launcher in sight.

[Anonymous No.8589742]

>>8589739
It's on the same platform where you pick up the blue key.

[Anonymous No.8589748]

>>8589718
Many thanks anon I found the thread
Damn, 800 songs
Also damn, 800 MIDI songs fit in 4 MB

[Anonymous No.8589749]

>>8589742
And that's exactly where I'm at. Can't find the blue key. Cleared the room for the most part. This Room.

[Anonymous No.8589754]

>>8589749
lol, I meant the platform in the black and red room with the arachnotrons where you lower the lift to pick up the blue key. There's a ton of rocket ammo and the launcher on that platform.

[Anonymous No.8589761]

>>8589754
You mean the absolute very first room? We can take this to Discord or something if you want some more real time feedback lol

[Anonymous No.8589771]

[Anonymous No.8589773]

>>8589771
Wow! Look at all the shit opinions and NOT RETRO GAMES.
Take my (you), you fuck.

[Anonymous No.8589778]

>>8589771
that list is disgusting,and also not entirely retro.
here your (you) for posting it though.

[Anonymous No.8589780]

>>8587189
>>8589761
So, looking back at the map file, I realized that I left some extra playerstarts in places that they shouldn't be. Whoops.
Here's the updated version (I hope, man do I keep messing up my release versions): https://files.catbox.moe/jf5eu4.wad

DIY Anon if you're seeing this please update the link in the doomworld post. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.8589786]

>>8589780
Wow that explains so much. I started on the Plasma room, managed to steal a shotgun and a chaingun from the enemies in that room and backtrack. Thought it was really weird that there were so many rockets available everywhere but no rocket launcher in sight. Got hard-locked when I reached the elevator that required a blue key with no blue key seen so far. I'll give it a shot from the proper start.

[Anonymous No.8589865]

>>8589780
Video will be uploaded here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm7nSuFgkjs

As I said, I'm still kind of learning the ropes on gitting gud at Doom, so may not be the best. I also am going for 100% kills which is why you may see me backtrack inexplicably for some reason, I'm not lost, the map was pretty easy to understand.

Overall, I enjoyed the level. Had the most trouble in the arachnotron room but that's because I was likely trying to rush straight into it and then just dodge my way into surviving. Fell a few times into the pits on the side, would be cool if there was a way up so you'd get majorly punished by having to run around outside and take lots of damage but not necessarily be doomed to die and restart. As I said, I'm not very experienced in Doom WADs in general so maybe some other Anons can watch the playthrough and comment what they thought of the map's aesthetics and such.

[Anonymous No.8589868]

>>8589510
You can get a torrent of all the good years of heavy metal anyway.
Still shit that they're tanking though.

[Anonymous No.8589875]

Half-life. It was the beginning of the genres decline in level design. Moving away from open-ended layout design for singular paths with forwards-only progression.
https://www.cbr.com/half-life-duke-nukem-retro-shooters/amp/

[Anonymous No.8589881]

>Ain't afraid of no quake
Should he be? After all these years I think despite binary space partitions and ray tracing being on the way out, Duke 3D's interactivity, realism and progression were more indicative of what the genre would become.

[Anonymous No.8589906]

>>8588745
Well I do, my ironman attempts made sure of that

[Anonymous No.8589919]

>>8589881
Duke killed fps

[Anonymous No.8589929]

>>8589865
Video is still processing so I'll have to check it later. Glad you liked it. I'll probably throw some teleporters into the pit area so it isn't instant death.

[Anonymous No.8589932]

>>8589919
come on half life hater you can bait better than that

[Anonymous No.8589934]

>>8589929
About 14 minutes left is my estimate, Anon.

[Anonymous No.8589936]

>>8586858
>>8588494
Fat fetishes are not retro and do not belong on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.8589939]

>>8589932
Meds

[Anonymous No.8589950]

>>8589936
There are very few man-made things more retro than fat fetishes

[Anonymous No.8590000]

>>8589881
Literally ruined fps.
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.8590004]

[Anonymous No.8590006]

>>8590004

[Anonymous No.8590008]

>think I have everything working with the tracers
>playtesting to make sure no crashes or weirdness
>minor visual bug occurs
>annoys me to the point of fixing it
>turns out it's actually a massive undertaking because of dumb broken shit in GZDoom
>4 hours of trying to figure out why GZDoom is failing to create an object when I do things properly but works when I just use Spawn()
>eventually give up and just use the working method but code around it so I can fix the issue
>end result is that everything looks exactly the same as before except minus the visual bug
At least I added a whole bunch of new CVars. Not sure if I'm gonna put them in the menu because they can make shit look pretty wacky if you mess with them. Those 4 hours were on the clock because I wfh, so I got paid for them. :^^)

[Anonymous No.8590009]

Duke sucks

[Anonymous No.8590010]

>>8590008
I appreciate your commitment to this, and I know the sting of dealing with engine bullshittery.
>Spoiler
nice.

[Anonymous No.8590014]

Serious Engine has been opensourced under GPL2 for 5 years now.
Why there are no indie games on it? Is it that obscure or hard to work with?

[Anonymous No.8590023]

>>8590009
t. alien bastard

[Anonymous No.8590024]

>>8590023
See>>8590000

[Anonymous No.8590026]

>>8590010
Literally
>Spawning in the middle of the player makes the shotgun tracers look weird because they don't appear to "spread"
>A_FireProjectile and SpawnPlayerMissile both work perfectly for fixing that EXCEPT if the player has their back to a wall and is facing a certain angle, then it fails and causes a crash or a buggy effect if crash is handled
>Why?
>"Fuck you that's why, Leck meinen Arsch" t. Graf
Little does he know that I am far more stubborn than his code is retarded. I'm going to be dreaming about strangling the chicken man tonight.

[Anonymous No.8590027]

>>8590014
More like why bother? Why would you pick Serious Engine 1 over any other late-90s-early-2000s engine?

[Anonymous No.8590028]

>>8590026
It's hard to say if it's Graf's doing, someone else that works under him, or the dev that came before him.
I have to deal with Zandronum weirdness, I'm still mad about having to use a_throwgrenade to spawn some visual actors for a monster.
I am so ready to be done with the Doom engine. But I still have some other shit to finish first.

[Anonymous No.8590035]

>>8590028
I'll blame him either way since he clearly thinks he owns the project and all of the code. I think you'd have less weirdness in ZScript but Zandy is getting that never ever so it's not viable for many types of mods. ZS only gets weird when you're doing absolutely fucktarded shit like I'm doing where I pretty much just wrote my own code to handle all aspects of the movement of these little bastards to ensure everything goes the way I want it to.

[Anonymous No.8590037]

>>8590035
I figured as much, but at least with Zscript you have the option of doing crazy shit like that.
I just want anonymous functions, Zandronum devs.

please.

[Anonymous No.8590049]

>>8590037
TNT1 A 0 A_NeverEver()

[Anonymous No.8590071]

>>8588132
is it tim?

[Anonymous No.8590081]

>>8590027
Physics shenanigans, much more optimised than DarkPlaces I've seen used for several projects (like Wrath), while being very similar in workflow, a lot of customizability.

[Anonymous No.8590086]

>>8590081
Would it be better than FTEQW though? On paper it seems like the pinnacle of modernized retro shooter engines, but it too hasn't been used much.

[Anonymous No.8590201]

>>8590081
>Physics shenanigans
Why not use a Havok-capable engine like Source if you're after physics?

[Anonymous No.8590250]

>>8590201
IIRC, Source 1 can not be licensed anymore
Source 2 is too modern
Xash3D can not be used commercially since it still uses some proprietary valve libraries

Also I dont think either of them allows for the kind of gravity-bending that SSE allows (like that room with Mario-galaxy-like sphere you can walk on, or a cyllinder corridor from Second Encounter)

[Anonymous No.8590258]

>>8589936

[Anonymous No.8590260]

>>8590258
I regret not saving that pic of the Manc posting "THICCER"

[Anonymous No.8590268]

>>8590260
>>8588424

[Anonymous No.8590269]

>>8590268
I am apparently fucking blind. This is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.8590271]

>>8590269
I hope you at least told her you love her first!

[Anonymous No.8590273]

>>8590271
You motherfucker, lol. You got me.

[Anonymous No.8590305]

Quake 1.5 Bad

Arcane Dimensions good

[Anonymous No.8590375]

>>8590250
>IIRC, Source 1 can not be licensed anymore
That must be pretty recent, the Crowbar Collective guys managed to get source access for Black Mesa a couple of years back.

[Anonymous No.8590380]

>>8588132

[Anonymous No.8590384]

>>8590375
it was after Hunt Down the Freeman was shat out onto Steam. Valve just shut down commercial licensing and making standalone Source 1 games completely to avoid another disaster like that. Now if you work with Source you ain't releasing it as anything but a free mod

[Anonymous No.8590397]

Anyone here played any of these 'retro' fps? Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.8590407]

>>8590384
Be interesting to see what that means for things that had already got through Greenlight like Op Black Mesa.

[Anonymous No.8590418]

>>8590397
>girly access

[Anonymous No.8590432]

>>8588496
The pinky/hellknight squeeze is simultaneous. THere's an offscreen voodoo doll that triggers it. Ideally, you die to it once because you focus on the hellknights, and then get trapped by the pinkies. Congrats on finding an alternate way to beat that fight. However, it's possible to win that fight and take nearly no damage by simply turning around and prioritizing the pinkies first.

The blue key fight is absolutely beatable without secrets. It's just meant to be hard, but the secret invuln makes the fight trivial if you can find it.

The archvile go round is manageable. In the room right before it I teach you exactly what happens when you blow up a barrel. Don't blow up too many barrels.

Also, the map is themed around Suicide. Hence you only get a rocket launcher. I'm glad you enjoyed the map and thank you for playing it.

capcha: DYGGA

You my Dygga, anon.

[Anonymous No.8590457]

>>8588778
if we're gonna have pretentious elitist cliques in doom, can they at least go at war with the new fans and e-celebs?
it's almost eye opening the difference between traditional doom fanbase activities and the cultures and shit around the new doom fans, that you can even use buzzwords like "revisionism" or "gentrification" to throw around
if only doomworld started to treat midnight as a threat instead of some modders they just didn't like
for better or worse, impie and torm are still part of certain subcultures and events but not the people stealing fanart, posting unfunny memes or downright displaying the typical "consoomer" behaviors
a doom fandom civil war would expose what the actual best and worst parts of the fanbase really are but because the old guard is too busy infighting and being sa goons, nobody tries to challenge the reddit/twitter/youtube category with a bigger memory hole effect than brutal doom

[Anonymous No.8590462]

>>8590457
>reddit/twitter/youtube category with a bigger memory hole effect than brutal doom
What are you even talking about?

[Anonymous No.8590481]

>>8590305
Another is a map pack with new monsters and weapons. Another is a gameplay mod. How are these even comparable?

[Anonymous No.8590495]

>>8590457
It's like this was written by a bot. Complete jargon. I don't get your point.

[Anonymous No.8590498]

>>8590462
>>8590495
Does anyone have that strokepost talking about keyboard aiming and the mention of "Romoergo" or something to that effect.
Same thing, really.

[Anonymous No.8590547]

How about instead of Romero we had Coomero and he had big fat naturals

[Anonymous No.8590584]

>>8589934
Looks like everything worked out as I intended. I'll just add teleporters to the pit in the red and black room so it's not a death pit. My thinking was because of how short the map is one death pit wouldn't be bad but since I've received enough complaints about it I think I need to change that.

[Anonymous No.8590643]

>>8590006
>six fingers to smoke five cigs
Kek every time

[Anonymous No.8590690]

>>8589950
>pic
Vastly overstated.

[Anonymous No.8590981]

Do you guys have Aliens vs Predator Classic 2000 in your archive?

[Anonymous No.8590985]

>>8590981
I'd rather play 2

[Anonymous No.8590990]

>>8590981
I have AVP2, the one Monolith made, it's so fucking good.

[Anonymous No.8591007]

>>8590250
>Source 1 cannot be licenced anymore

Shit, I wonder if that's the reason why the Source remake of Cry of Fear got cancelled.

[Anonymous No.8591012]

>>8590985
>>8590990
Any reason to play the original?

[Anonymous No.8591024]

>>8590462
>>8590495
I think they're going on about the wave that came in with NuDoom, the sort that loudly go on about those during discussions of the originals.

I'm not certain though, shit's kinda unhinged.

[Anonymous No.8591040]

>>8589143
XUMP
Each level is self-contained, so theres no backtracking through the hub

[Anonymous No.8591048]

This Spiderdemon walks into a bar and gets stuck in your girlfriend's ass.
What do you do?

[Anonymous No.8591061]

>>8591048
i didn't though my GF was your mom.

[Anonymous No.8591115]

Are there any doom wads that use the strife rebel sprites as enemies?

[Anonymous No.8591119]

>>8590384
Based all mods should be free

[Anonymous No.8591131]

i feel bad for people who didn't have a Roland SC-55.

[Anonymous No.8591167]

>>8590547
>Just barely getting into Cumtown three years after it turned to shit
Kys

[Anonymous No.8591181]

I just finished Sand Canyon on Serious.

Do you have any idea how many times I died? This shit's kicking my ass more than just about any FPS I've ever played. What's the secret to git gud?

[Anonymous No.8591195]

>>8591012
yeah AvP1 is great. esp the marine levels: very dark, fast and high-lethality, I can't really even name any other FPS with comparable pacing. AvP2 is completely different.

[Anonymous No.8591202]

>>8591181
Secrets are key to success in tfe. Hope you found the good ones in the first level.

[Anonymous No.8591218]

>>8586718
Lambda after editing the code to have faster reloading, larger clip, and more damage, and removed the poison soda

[Anonymous No.8591229]

>>8591181
Don't let your health reach 0.

[Anonymous No.8591248]

>>8591181
shoot at enemies until they die

[Anonymous No.8591268]

>>8591248
No that only works in Doom

[Anonymous No.8591271]

>>8589353
They vary. System Control is a good reinterpretation of Entryway, but Redemption is really unmemorable, and Processing Area is kind of just passable. I think his music was a far stronger contribution to TNT, and that's not a light compliment.

[Anonymous No.8591281]

>>8590457
>>8590462
>>8590495
>>8590498
>>8591024
He means shit like this, I'm pretty sure. I don't see why there's any need to go to war with Twittershitters though, they'll go away with time, the kids who are actually interested in classic Doom and modding will stick around.

[Anonymous No.8591318]

>>8591271
I genuinely like System Control more than Entryway, it feels like it has more going for it.

[Anonymous No.8591371]

>>8589419
I just miss ritual overall. They were too early in this scene. I think now they would succeed to fill a niche.

[Anonymous No.8591440]

>>8590027
Because it's cool and quirky.

[Anonymous No.8591523]

>>8588126
I live with my grandpa and we both had covid. He had pneumonia and survived the hospital trip with the ventilator, at 89. Tell your parents to make friends with salad if they aren't or else they'll be kaputz.

[Anonymous No.8591628]

>>8591318
I agree, it's Entryway but better, but most of Mustaine's maps aren't of that caliber.

[Anonymous No.8591634]

Which Doom wad has the most hellish hell? Or at least the most well constructed one? Something that screams "this is a fucked up place where billions of people are brutally tortured for eternity"

[Anonymous No.8591682]

>>8591281
People are just talking about 2016's basic plot of a capitalist company dooming mankind by being so greedy they mine energy from hell, then the autist in that pic goes on a long rant about Doom modding culture and the game now being more corporate when everyone knows and no one was talking about that.

[Anonymous No.8591692]

>>8591634
Planisphere 2

[Anonymous No.8591693]

>>8588119
>he desperately wanted Waterlab GZD to win an award and I think it only got a runner up or a mention.
lol I remember that. That wad felt like your typical 00's era ZDoom wad, complete with various custom enemies that add barely anything to the table added.

[Anonymous No.8591694]

>>8591682
Can you fuck off back to wherever it is you came from faggot? Nobody gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.8591712]

>>8589419
I do wonder if there'll be a cultural shift in the near future where mainstream media will be less "safe" like the 90-00s. I can't help but feel like there's gonna be a point where a lot of people will have had enough and will start to actually put some "edge" in their work for lack of a better term.

[Anonymous No.8591714]

>>8591712
Can you really consider Heavy Metal mainstream?

[Anonymous No.8591723]

>>8591714
Yeah

[Anonymous No.8591731]

I may be biased since i fucking hate 2016 and eternal but dont you guys think that even if the weapons look cool, they feel puny when you fire them? Maybe its the distracting as fuck colourful stun animation I dont know.

>>8591712
Yes it will eventually anon, but sometimes people forget trends outlive human life spans.

[Anonymous No.8591747]

>>8591693
You mean things like?
>It's an imp but it's green!
>It's a spectre but blue and stronger!
Because zdoom wads really love those for some reason
>>8591731
I think the sound design has something to do with it. Take the ballista for instance. It sounds so wimpy compared to something like, say, quake 2's railgun. With that said, I do think they did a good job with the shotgun and SSG.

[Anonymous No.8591752]

>>8591712
This may sound cringe but all those anons saying it starts with you are basically right We really have to be the change we want to see even if the result is bad.

>>8591747
Its the sound maybe you are right, and the weapons have little recoil. Maybe its an engine thing.

[Anonymous No.8591781]

>>8591747
>Because zdoom wads really love those for some reason
Yep. Pretty much a case of taking advantage of a feature for the pure sake of it.

[Anonymous No.8591827]

>>8591007
I thought the CoF Source remake was cancelled because of money reasons.

[Anonymous No.8591887]

>>8591731
Eternal's ssg sounds weak compared to 2016's and the classics. Other than that no, they feel fine to me. Assault rifle and regular shotgun sound weak but they are weak so it's ok.

[Anonymous No.8591934]

>>8591012
The Marine campaign is the best. The Alein campaign is decent too.
AVP is better in most regards imo, but the first game is decent.

[Anonymous No.8591935]

Why is HFFM no in the pastebin?

[Anonymous No.8591938]

>>8591935
2048 isn't either. The pastebin is insanely old.

[Anonymous No.8591940]

>>8591938
Do you have a download for them?

[Anonymous No.8591951]

>>8591934
AVP1999\2000 is fucking amazing. Compared to other fps of the era the movement was really great especially when you got the bonus levels and extra movement options.

Every single species felt different and tense, Marine campaign was scary as fuck, Predator was tense but once you knew what to do you felt bad ass. ANd ALien was really well, alien, no other game had done wall hugging like that .


Monolith avp 2 is cool but a much more story centred and linear game.

AVP 1999 feels a game on the edge of game design before things went console hard. A very interesting fps.

[Anonymous No.8591971]

>>8591935
>>8591938
The pastebin tells Quake players to use DarkPlaces. Ignore it.

[Anonymous No.8591986]

>>8591971
That doesn't change the fact that its impossible to find the final version of HFFM. This is a crime against these threads

[Anonymous No.8591990]

Well I'm already working on the Doom infographic, maybe once that's done I can update the pastebins too.

[Anonymous No.8591994]

>>8591951
The alien was always my favorite campaign and it felt better in 2 imo. But yeah, pretty linear.
Marine campaign is better in 1 than 2 for sure.
The predator campaigns might be a wash for me.

[Anonymous No.8592017]

>>8591994
I wonder if there is an og version around I played like 5 years ago the avp200 with different fmvs actors but I wanted to see the ogs.

The game oozed atmosphered even if it was short for each race it was highly replayable. Alien eradication recently put me in the same mood.

Overall AvP200 is excellent, cant forget the first time I jumped out of my seat by being blown away by a predator.

[Anonymous No.8592023]

>>8591994
I also think the animations were pretty neat in avp2000, the aliens had really great death animations.

[Anonymous No.8592074]

>>8591986
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7998165/#8003328
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfunv4

[Anonymous No.8592089]

>>8592074
>2.0

nigga the latest version is 4.0

https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/8050953/#8054781

[Anonymous No.8592098]

>>8592023
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.8592104]

>>8592089
Sorry, I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.8592127]

Anyone playing doom with a trackball?

[Anonymous No.8592131]

>>8590023
What happened here?

[Anonymous No.8592148]

>>8592131
It was just some retard trying to shit up the thread, ignore it.

[Anonymous No.8592198]

How is Doom 1993 on PS5? Any problems?

[Anonymous No.8592224]

>>8592198
The Unity port?

[Anonymous No.8592232]

>>8592224
Yeah. I've heard of the game crashing on PS5 for some reason.

[Anonymous No.8592295]

>>8592232
Why bother man? I'm sure you have a better way to play doom.

[Anonymous No.8592304]

Post your perfect FPS weapon list with keybinds right now
1 Shadow Warrior Katana
2 Outlaws Revolver
3 Blood Flare Gun
4 Doom 2 Double Barreled Shotgun
5 Goldeneye KF7 Soviet
6 Shadow Warrior Dual Wielding UZIs
7 Duke Nukem 3D Rocket Launcher
8 Quake 2 Railgun
9 Turok 2 Cerebral Bore
0 Doom BFG 9000

[Anonymous No.8592342]

>>8591752
>We really have to be the change we want to see even if the result is bad.
unfortunately if the result is bad enough it can turn other people off from the idea instead

[Anonymous No.8592351]

>>8592342
Yeah, change needs to be gradual until it builds up like a snowball

[Anonymous No.8592371]

>>8592232
i don't it was made to natively work like the new Quake port or the new Doom games.
Lazy faggots.

[Anonymous No.8592375]

>>8592371
*don't think

[Anonymous No.8592402]

>>8592304
I want the gravity gun in slot 1.

[Anonymous No.8592431]

WHO KEEPS LEAVING ALL THESE SHOTGUN SHELLS AROUND IN ANCIENT EGYPT?

[Anonymous No.8592442]

>>8592431
They're teleported back in time from the future.

[Anonymous No.8592459]

>>8592431
me, i'm the jitterbug litterbug

[Anonymous No.8592468]

>>8592431
Previous players who died there

[Anonymous No.8592489]

Serious question
How many commercial megawads existed back then aside from The Lost Episodes of Doom, Hacx, Perdition's Gate and Hell To Pay?
Like did shovelware shit like Maximum Doom or D!Zone have wads with more than 1 or 2 levels at most?
Same for the free community wads.

[Anonymous No.8592504]

>>8591971
Tell me WHERE it says that you fucking faggot?

[Anonymous No.8592507]

>>8592504
Right here.
Once again, I'll be willing to rewrite this myself once the Doom OP is done.

[Anonymous No.8592531]

>>8592442
but if 3 is canon...

[Anonymous No.8592561]

>>8592304
This is kinda hard. But let me try.

1 Serious Sam 1's Knife
2 Serious Sam 1's Schofields
3 Shadow Warrior's Riotgun
4 Quake 2's Chaingun but with a muzzleflash
5 Duke 3D's RPG
6 Quake's Thunderbolt
7 Doom 1/2's BFG 9000

alternatively:

1 HL1's Crowbar with the throw ability from Sven Co-op, but with a cool down to give the Crowbar back after a set time (I always lose the fucking thing)
2 Shadow Warrior's Shurikens
3 Blood's Shotgun
4 Hexen's Serpent Staff
5 Blood's Dynamite
6 Duke 3D's Devastators
7 Quake's Quad on demand ala Samsara (this one is a bit of a cheat but fuck you, it's cool)

OR

1 Turok 2's Razorwind where you can switch away from it after you throw it
2 Quake 4's Blaster
3 Doom 2's Super Shotgun
4 Blood's Tommy Gun
5 Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena's S.C.A.R. Gun with an increased fire rate, capacity, and damage. Also make it use ammo
6 Quake 3's Rail Gun
7 Doom 64's Unmaker, fully powered

[Anonymous No.8592572]

>>8591752
>We really have to be the change we want to see even if the result is bad.
I wish I was capable of doing even that. lol
>>8592342
>if the result is bad enough it can turn other people off
Did we really never had "bad enough" decision that stuck around? Speaking of nu-DOOM, its approach to story/lore (at the very least in TAG, but there were flaws in Eternal as well) is a result of larger trend in games & other media that focuses on manipulation and parasitizing on the likes of aforementioned Midnight.
...or it's about not being shit, but being negative enough in the eyes of most people?

[Anonymous No.8592579]

I'm a bored hacker. If you want the password to someones Snapchat, like you think your partner is cheating on you, or curious about something else, I don't mind trying it out

Ask me on Snapchat @HugoSam2

[Anonymous No.8592590]

>>8592489
https://archive.org/details/lbdoom
Yes, they sold this

[Anonymous No.8592623]

>>8592304
Not quite the same but I have an autistic list for a boomer shooter character loadout concept sitting around in a text file.

Slot 1: Executioner's sword with flaming alt-fire mode
Slot 2: Scoped .454 single action revolver, fanned while not aiming (pressing reload while full twirls it)
Slot 3: Winchester Liberator-esque shotgun with offhand gunshield
Slot 4: Ultimax 100 Mk3 with drum mags and underbarrel 40mm grenade launcher
Slot 5: Bolt-action tube-fed magnum rifle with bayonet
Slot 6: Belt-fed Gyrojet solid-slug cannon with flamethrower attachment
Slot 7: China Lake-esque GL launching WP rounds
Slot 8: Stick Grenades with tripwire trap alt-mode
Slot 9: Carl Gustav-esque recoilless rifle with canister shot alternative ammo
Slot 0 (Probably a different dedicated button): Jetpack with build in under-arm machine-guns, alternatively a combat motorcycle summon. I want some cool vehicular mobility tools.

[Anonymous No.8592629]

>>8591181
I loved my serious playthrough of tfe, keep at it.
>First kleer in level 1 kept kicking my ass
>later levels i can dodge 50+ kleer switching weapons instinctively depending on the situation taking 0 damage

Sam is the only fps where i enter a zen state and it all feels so good

[Anonymous No.8592732]

>>8591012
Much better AI and difficulty curve. The Marine campaign is great too.

[Anonymous No.8592815]

>>8592629
I remember when I started getting into old shooters and felt a moment where Blood *clicked* after it kicked my ass so much, and I had super fun playing through it after that, with much less punishment. I'll push on through tfe and see if I can achieve that feel again. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.8592829]

>Mala Petaka demo
>Play on hard
>Get whooped over a dozen times and reach about the halfway point at best
>Switch to normal
>Breeze through it, drop under 100 health about 4 times total

The worst thing is being mediocre. It's better to be good or bad. Mediocre level is where the true pain resides.

[Anonymous No.8592835]

>>8592304
1 Doom 64's Chainsaw
2 Quake's Shotgun
3 Doom II's Super Shotgun
4 Quake's Super Nailgun
5 Quake's Rocket Launcher
6 Quake's Grenade Launcher
7 Blood's Remote Detonator
8 Serious Sam's SBC Cannon

I mostly just want rockets, cannons and explosives. Alternatively I could also just post Unreal Tournament's weapon list but it feels like cheating.

[Anonymous No.8592928]

Playthrough video of Ad Mortem map01 is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaIaW4DOmdA

[Anonymous No.8592982]

>>8592304
that would bee really hard to pick but let me try
1.SW katana
2.Blood flaregun
3.DOOM 2 SSG or BLOODs shotgun
4.super nailgun
5.quake rocket launcher
6.blood plazma gun
7.BFG

some more good picks in no particular order
1.HL crowbar
2.HL SMG (with grenade launcher attachment) or shotgun (these are not the most powerful,but they tend to be nice and versatile)
3.some way to use the SW nuke
4.FEAR shotgun
5.Quake 3 railgun
6.something from a newer game that will make a purist seethe (like the needler from halo,or a meathook SSG from nu-DOOM)

[Anonymous No.8593028]

What is the first ever appearance/origin of this sprite? Like lot's of other custom sprites in mods, I wonder what the origin point of certain weapons and whatnot are from but it's so difficult to pinpoint since many sprites like this have been used in so many different wads over the years.

[Anonymous No.8593075]

>>8592928
I really hope that bookshelf texture gets fixed some day.

[Anonymous No.8593098]

>>8591935
>>8591986
>>8592074
>>8592089
>>8592104
Hopefully these should stay up, being actually uploaded with an account.

https://files.catbox.moe/5pofdt.zip HFFM V4.0 - Uncut

https://files.catbox.moe/vfuup0.zip HFFM V4.0 - Cut

https://files.catbox.moe/2a846d.zip HFFM V4.0 - Gagged

https://files.catbox.moe/zou58n.zip HFFM V4.0 - Stripped

https://files.catbox.moe/tp3xpe.zip HFFM V4.0 - Party Pack (truecolor .pngs, mind)

https://files.catbox.moe/372zqw.zip Hard Fast Faggot Music, for your listening pleasure.

[Anonymous No.8593104]

>>8593028
Didn't Chronoteeth draw that?

[Anonymous No.8593110]

Who are the biggest inspirations on your mapping?

[Anonymous No.8593134]

>>8592590
This is wretched, thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous No.8593137]

*coughs* Ahem!

Fuck cacodemons and fuck everything they stand for in the universe. They are not cute and have two buttholes therefore they smell twice the bad!
Fuck their stupid shit-eating grin and their round "body" if you want to call that ugly travesty of glob a body!
The mere existence of cacodemons is an insult against demons and demonlike beings.
Fuck cacodemons!

[Anonymous No.8593154]

>>8592531
Did you not finish Siberian Mayhem? Alternate timelines are all over the place, it just means the future the shells are being sent back from isn't the Sam 3 branch.

[Anonymous No.8593157]

>>8593137
Strange things seem to happen to people who don't like cacodemons

[Anonymous No.8593162]

>>8593154
yeah you're right

[Anonymous No.8593172]

>>8593154
Did I miss papers/recordings that explained the ending the game got or was it really out of nowhere?

[Anonymous No.8593219]

>>8593172
SS4 had some lore stuff that hinted at somebody traveling through time and how Sam himself had some extreme levels of time fluctuation or whatever (I forget exactly what they said). But in siberian mayhem I don't think anything hinted at that timeline being different until the very end.

[Anonymous No.8593225]

>>8593172
If you did, so did I. Maybe one of the other spinoffs used the plot device?

From a dev perspective it's obviously there because they wanted to let you actually beat the shit out of Brand, and it's either break out alternate universes or have him get away to match up with the Sam 4 events.

[Anonymous No.8593246]

>>8592127
yeah

[Anonymous No.8593265]

>>8593137
Based and elemental-pilled

[Anonymous No.8593280]

>>8593110
Casalis and Insane Gazebo

[Anonymous No.8593293]

>Playing a wad
>Walk into a room
>Medium sized. Would be very cramped with an Arachnotron
>The walls drop, revealing a bunch of Revenants and Imps
>Two Archviles
>Without any cover to hide behind, and without enough room to use rockets
Some of these Doom mappers have no idea what the fuck they're doing. How have we not figured out that this kind of shit just isn't fun?

[Anonymous No.8593319]

>>8593293
I have fun.

[Anonymous No.8593336]

>>8593293
Give me the wad and map name.

[Anonymous No.8593425]

Everytime I come back to Zandronum after not playing for a while I can never get my server to work properly despite ports being forwarded and I never remember what I did to fix it the numerous times it's happened before.

[Anonymous No.8593437]

>>8593425
Well you better get it to work and start hosting some hellshots golf boyo

[Anonymous No.8593630]

>>8593137
>

[Anonymous No.8593667]

>>8593134

[Anonymous No.8593679]

>Pain Elementals and other demons posting here right now
ok you asked for it:
FHHALL

[Anonymous No.8593695]

>>8593679
If I might interject, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.8593732]

Hell culture is centered around cacodemons. They have holidays for cacos. They killed hundreds of thousands of revenants to free cacos. They listen to caco music. They elected a caco president. They smile and act like cacos. They draw the entirety of their hellish culture from cacos. They post sassy gifs about cacos. They watch sportsball in worship of cacos. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of cacos floating around. They use caco slang like "bruh" and "swish". When you say Ftaghnz, they're not thinking of the Baron. They're thinking of the cacodemon. Their cities are completely overrun with cacos. They worship their hell force disproportionately filled with cacos and their invasion force filled with cacos. Their men sit around watching cacofloat while their women sit around watching caco talk shows. They worship cacos while ignoring the demons who actually built the unholy cathedral before cacos took over. Their movies are filled with cacos and and their music charts are filled with cacos. They send cacos to the teleporters and celebrate when the cacos win because those are true blue blooded Hellish cacos. They watch caco porn to the point where "Meatballs" does not make them think of a human food staple but about caco holes instead. Hell has been and will always be a nation of caco-loving cacodemons.

[Anonymous No.8593759]

What sound does he make again?

[Anonymous No.8593762]

>>8593759
a cat hiss and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE at the same time

[Anonymous No.8593764]

>>8593762
I'm sorry, english is not my strongest language. Could you try imitating it vocally?

[Anonymous No.8593769]

>>8593732
>>8593759
Stop cacoposting at once!

[Anonymous No.8593779]

Is F.E.A.R bad or is E4M9 bad?
Also go back to /d/, you fucks.

[Anonymous No.8593796]

>>8593779
oh baby that's a lot of cocks

[Anonymous No.8593815]

>>8592629
>>8592815

Does this Zen moment exist in Doom? I've been practicing on harder WADs but I'm not sure I'm getting all that much better.

[Anonymous No.8593826]

>>8590584
It's probably not that bad, I think it's a short and sweet level. It just came as a bit of a surprise really, since it's hard to notice until you are already in it. Then you inevitably look for an exit and realize you are dead. Anything you expected I should have done differently, Anon?

[Anonymous No.8593848]

>>8593769
Swallow this

[Anonymous No.8593859]

I feel like the maximum resolution to play these old shooters is 640x480. Anything more and the mood is ruined when it becomes painfully obvious that everything is very flat floors and walls with very small textures applied. At lower resolutions the lack of observable detail helps you to see the textures as real surfaces instead of flat wallpapers.

[Anonymous No.8593863]

>>8593859
>textures as real surfaces instead of flat wallpapers.
Well... what's the difference though? I play Doom on a high resolution and FPS and thought it looked very "muddy" on Crispy Doom and such. Do you think it actually adds to the atmosphere? I can't imagine a cube wall will look less like a cube wall if the texture is blurrier.

[Anonymous No.8593893]

>>8593815
Yep. It's more or less about having total control of your slippery marine than anything else. Enemy awareness is important but being able to slide through enemies and guiding projectiles is the most important thing when trying to stay alive.
For myself at least, I never realized how fucking shitty most of my movements were until I compared demos that I recorded. My 2-shot BFG the Cyber movements looks like fucking trash in earlier demos in comparison to what I can do now. Being aware of my surroundings when guiding missiles into walls was something I was horrible at too at a point. Realizing how much space you have before you collide and get stuck on something is another crucial thing you will learn to pick up. The distance where autoaim drops off will be picked up naturally, and you'll learn to resist freezing if you get a red screen and you'll just keep moving.
Doom is basically one super fucked up game of dodgeball where you can't solve the puzzle unless you have the movements locked down. RNG for sure is always a factor, but at some point you'll man up and realize that it's more than likely your fault but I might be saying that part because the game might have mindbroke me.

[Anonymous No.8593896]

>>8593863
Low resolutions and colors mask the imperfections that are plainly visible in HD. Your brain works around what is suggested to make it right but in HD there's nothing to work around, textures will look flat no matter what.

[Anonymous No.8593904]

>>8593859
I could not give a rat's ass about this. I play in HD all the time, textures be damned. They're just not that important.

[Anonymous No.8593912]

>>8593863
there's a sweet spot where texture and geometric detail blend together, and increasing the resolution ruins the effect.
it's more obvious in early 3D games, but also applies both to Doom and to modern AAA stuff.

[Anonymous No.8593913]

>>8593732
These stupid pastas being remade for DOOM stuff is hilarious. It gets too much of a giggle out of me.

[Anonymous No.8593918]

>>8593896
>>8593912

I'll go through DOOM 1 or 2 In crispy Doom so I can get a comparison. I've basically only ever used GZDoom with software lighting and no texture filtering. I can't imagine it will make much of a difference but I see exactly what you guys mean with the blending. That's the boiler room in the school of Silent Hill 1, right? Played that game a few months back and loved it, so I'll probably at least appreciate it to some degree.

Does Smooth Doom work with it or do you think it'd ruin the feel to have super smooth animations?

[Anonymous No.8593920]

>>8593779
F.E.A.R. Is decent, though I do think it gets a bit overrated.
E4M9 feels like Tim Willits found a deathmatch map he made and touched it up for singleplayer.

[Anonymous No.8593936]

>>8593918
>That's the boiler room in the school of Silent Hill 1, right?
yeah. SH1 is great for this kind of stuff.
I still usually play Doom and Quake in high res though.

[Anonymous No.8593958]

>>8593918
Also, to make sure I get this right, which soundfont?

[Anonymous No.8593959]

>>8593913
Literally just imagine being a Cacodemon's assistant in hell. Your day begins early as your slumber is abruptly ceased by the sound of rockets going off, not to mention the deafening wavelengths emitted from the plasma gun. Being under hell's command, you are forced to ward off doomguy. It requires all of your strength, intellect, and every trick in the book to send him away. You sustain injuries, it hurts, but there's no rest for the living under the reign of the demons. After successfully defending your turf from the slayer, the Caco must attend to his own matters, and he intends to take you along. Being unable to fly yourself, you grasp his horns tightly and hitch a ride on his back. Despite his baggage and non-aerodynamic figure, the cacodemon moves remarkably fast. The wind on your face hurts, the sound even more so to your ears, but you don't say anything for he has places to be. The day then consists of sleepless hours of harassing neighboring pain elementals, asserting the authority of the superior aerial demon of hell. As the day comes to a close, you return home, once again riding on the cacodemon's back. Once you arrive at your shared lot, you begin eating your one and only meal of the day. The cacodemon feasts on corpses of deceased intruding humans and delinquent hellspawn. It disgusts you, making you sick to your stomach, but with no access to any other forms of sustenance, you begrudgingly consume the gruel before you. You wish the cacodemon a good night, and he looks at you with the same eerie, toothy grin he always wears, and lets out a light hiss. You're not sure if he really appreciates the remark, but you've been saying it for so long, it would be weird to stop now. You return to your makeshift bed of brain tissue and bones, and immediately crash from exhaustion. Your attempt of sleep is interrupted to the sound of rockets going off, not to mention the deafening wavelengths emitted from the plasma gun. Is this REALLY something you want?

[Anonymous No.8593970]

>>8593859
I respect the people who play on low/original res and all but the example screenshot you posted "looking flat" is pretty much entirely just lack of added detail on the part of the map designer. You can make some very pleasing geometry even with the stock Doom textures with skillful usage that look nice. I usually play at 1600x900 windowed like a pleb.

[Anonymous No.8593979]

>>8593970
My impression so far has been pretty much that. The textures or resolution of walls or whatever never mattered as much as the overall level design of what I was on. I wonder if it's because I've been playing more modern WADs but I almost feel like setting it to low res would be doing a disservice to the map, just making it look worse. For example, something like Ancient Aliens. Do you think that was designed to be played on 640x480 or more likely on a 1920x1080 monitor?

[Anonymous No.8594009]

>>8593979
Honestly if you're used to the modern GZDoom source port stuff, you should still try playing on a low 4:3 resolution with the original software renderer and mouselook turned off now and then if you haven't. It really does have a great charm to it, especially in more classically themed WADs.

It kinda sucks not having the OG 1990s connection to Doom a lot of people seem to have. I started playing around ~2007 (pic related was my first version for a short time actually) so I can't really connect with the chocolateDoom crowd but I really don't like the nuDoom series either.

[Anonymous No.8594086]

>>8593293
some people have the mindset that if something's hard, its automatically good

[Anonymous No.8594090]

>>8594086
There's also some people that have the mindset that if something is too hard for them, its automatically bad.

[Anonymous No.8594146]

>>8594086
>>8594090
Some people also have the mindset that if they think something is good, then it's good. In reality something is only good if I (me) think it's good.

[Anonymous No.8594169]

>joe-ilya

[Anonymous No.8594350]

>>8593759
https://youtu.be/0JElywbkSbY?t=7

[Anonymous No.8594363]

>Total overhaul of the blursphere behaviour. No offensive capabilities now that detection can be fine-tuned. The gaze now merely misdirects an oncoming attacker's memory of your last location. No levelups or corruption - in fact you're lucky if it doesn't just randomly get bored of you and escape, or disappear in fright at the first sign of danger.
Hideousbros...

[Anonymous No.8594396]

>>8594363
I want to try HD coop with someone.

[Anonymous No.8594402]

>>8594396
Same
For a year now, but my friends aren't the kind to play HD

[Anonymous No.8594404]

>>8586959
>>8588496

I've gotten similar feedback from other playtesters, so I've added several barrels across the map that immediately spawn an Archvile.

The latest version is automatically available at the google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19kuWbjGwdIWwEjoc4S3d8HThJcv84T8j/view?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.8594425]

>>8594404
The problem is not that we didn't understand where the Archviles come from. The problem is it's impossible to have that fight with a rocket launcher and not blow up the barrels. Even if you killed everything else off before shooting the barrels, you still have to deal with the Archviles who are impossible to track, teleporting everywhere at once in a 360 degree radius. Those viles suck, dude.

[Anonymous No.8594427]

>>8593293
What's the name of the wad, or is this another "all wads after 90s are slaughtershit" bait?

[Anonymous No.8594436]

>>8594009
Ultradetailed stuff like Eviternity, Fractured Worlds, Heartland and new Sunder maps look better with bit higher resolution, but I agree that old wads should be played with low res. Also most old custom textures are made for software mode and look very ugly and underdetailed with more colors. Wads like Darkening 2 and Brotherhood of Ruin look so much better with software mode than with truecolor mode.

[Anonymous No.8594489]

[Anonymous No.8594515]

>>8593695
I agree with this gentleman. I would just add the following:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.8594517]

>>8594515

[Anonymous No.8594551]

>>8586730
>>8586746
I'm new to these threads, what's up with this Dakka dude he looks awesome. Is it a new arsenal mod?

[Anonymous No.8594596]

>>8594425
Don't blow up all the barrels and you won't have a vile problem. It's not hard to do.

[Anonymous No.8594653]

>>8594090
I'm not that anon, but he's clearly not complaining about it being too difficult. It's the fact that having Archviles in a crowded environment is unfair and blatantly bullshit. It's more frustrating game design than it is difficult game design.

The issue that a lot of shitty mappers have is that they're very capable of creating good, fun encounters and interesting levels, but they lack the proper THEORY of good level design to avoid doing stupid shit like that. They think that if something is unfair, then that just makes it "harder", and that having an extreme difficulty is very desirable. These people have no idea what they're doing and so it results in a lot of wads being straight up unfun to a few people.
It's not even an invalid way to design your levels, it just shouldn't be the standard for what's normal.

[Anonymous No.8594658]

>>8594146
Damn, you're good.

[Anonymous No.8594671]

>>8594653
Are you the guy who has free real estate for Bridgeburner in his head? Move on already.

[Anonymous No.8594676]

>>8594671
Nope. I'm just an autistic who's really invested in game design

[Anonymous No.8594836]

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/powerslave-exhumed

It's finally here

[Anonymous No.8594863]

>>8594836
performing for you

[Anonymous No.8594868]

>>8594863
>>8594863
>>8594863
>>8594863

[Anonymous No.8594871]

>>8594868
Thanks for the (you)s, kind stranger!

[Anonymous No.8594978]

>>8593293
Which map?

[Anonymous No.8595064]

>>8594836
Lemme know when the nsp leaks.

[Anonymous No.8595068]

>>8588132
>hedon dick

[Anonymous No.8595106]

>>8594363
He doesn't sell it too well in the changelog, but it's a much more practical item now. Being invisible actually forces enemies to wander around searching for you, even if they were previously alerted. It's great for traveling open areas without fear of being shot by distant enemies or escaping ambushes to approach from a better angle. You can even use it against bosses, especially ideal with an unbraced bronto. The pain from the recoil triggers a decloak before the action of firing does, so you decloak slowly instead of instantly and have a window to reload or switch weapons in case the first shot doesn't kill.

[Anonymous No.8595126]

>>8592304
1. Wraithverge
2. Wraithverge
3. Wraithverge
4. Wraithverge

[Anonymous No.8595153]

>>8595126

[Anonymous No.8595214]

Making a new map, whatever.

[Anonymous No.8595216]

>>8593075
Everybody had their maps fixed like two weeks after release, but lead has died or something and nothing happened anymore.

[Anonymous No.8595262]

>>8592304
>1
L4D2 Katana
>2
Halo: CE M6D Magnum
>3
Dusk Shotguns
>4
Quake 2 Super Shotgun
>5
CoD: WaW PPSh-41 (Pack-a-Punched)
>6
Shadow Warrior Grenade Launcher
>7
Half-Life 1 Rocket Launcher
>8
Quake Super Nailgun
>9
Doom (2016) Gauss Cannon
>0
Skulltag BFG10K

[Anonymous No.8595274]

>>8595214
Looking fun. Any “jungle greenery” in Doom always reminds me of early Plutonia levels.

[Anonymous No.8595319]

>>8592304
1. E.Y.E: Divine Cybermancy Katana
2. Ion Fury Revolver & Blood Flaregun
3. Blood Shotgun, but the double discharge turns it into a Force-a-Nature.
4. Ion Fury Incendiary SMGs
5. Blood Napalm Launcher
6. Hideous Destructor Plasma Gun
R. Killing Floor 1 Flamethrower, assuming level 6 perk bonuses
T. Quake Railgun
F. Doom BFG
G. Blood Dynamite

there would be no reloading

[Anonymous No.8595383]

>>8592572
You raise a very interesting philosophical point.

I think in the longer run substance and spirit\SOVL or wtv the fuck lack of a better term always trounces mere style. In a historical context.

So if its earnest people don't care. Even with the soulless crowd that will murder you or praise you without batting an eye.

[Anonymous No.8595401]

>>8593246
Is this trackball natty?

[Anonymous No.8595416]

>>8593779
HFFM 2: Shemale Suck Community Submission

[Anonymous No.8595429]

>>8592127
I played Marathon with a trackball when I was a kid

[Anonymous No.8595495]

>>8595416
>.gif
>he doesn't wave

[Anonymous No.8595550]

Guys whatever you do, do NOT look up MAP19 of DUMP 3!

[Anonymous No.8595565]

>>8595550
OK, I won't.

[Anonymous No.8595571]

>>8595565
ok, good

[Anonymous No.8595606]

Jim Bagley is a liar

[Anonymous No.8595608]

>>8595606
Hey, I was just in that thread!

[Anonymous No.8595618]

>>8595608
Do you agree?

[Anonymous No.8595619]

>>8595618
I don't care about Jim Bagley

[Anonymous No.8595628]

>>8595606
What's all this about then.

[Anonymous No.8595637]

>>8595628
The lead programmer of the Saturn port of Doom

[Anonymous No.8595718]

>>8595550
haha amogus hahaha funny mene

[Anonymous No.8595735]

What's about people that they don't want to make IWADS?

[Anonymous No.8595746]

>>8595735
What would be the point in that?

[Anonymous No.8595759]

>>8595746
so i don't have to buy/pirate the doom games

[Anonymous No.8595760]

>>8594653
Stardate20x7 finale with spawning random arch-viles with massive group of all kinds of enemies (except masterminds and afrits) is a good fun. You basically have to find arch-viles first, while also reducing the mass of other demons before getting overwhelmed. It's very challenging for sure, but it never felt impossible or frustrating. I loved it. So do many others as Ribbiks is one of the most revered mappers. You are quite alone with your opinion. Also when playing challenging wad, it's not usually smart doing a blind playthrough. You are still practicing it's hard encounters, so you are supposed to die, die and die. Just save before battle, if you aren't ready to plan a strategy on a go. Stop complaining about hard wads, while you are obviously not even near ready to play them saveless. Let us others enjoy them as they are. Tldr: git gud.

[Anonymous No.8595764]

>>8595759
Just get freedoom lol

[Anonymous No.8595767]

Had this sitting in my library for a couple of years and it's actually good? Been playing DOOM and all the other retro revivial shooters since last year so I decided to have a look at this and it was pretty fun.

I know it's based on the Wolfenstein engine so I might give the original Wolfenstein 3D a go soon.

[Anonymous No.8595779]

>>8595764
it makes wads look ugly

[Anonymous No.8595787]

>>8595767
It's pretty novel, in the end it plays exactly like Wolfenstein 3D so it's pretty enjoyable.

>>8595779
>A beggar and a chooser
Sad!

[Anonymous No.8595828]

>>8593667
>>8593134
>>8592590
Females can't into mapping

[Anonymous No.8595848]

I just want this fucking expansion to come out without any more delays bros aaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.8595861]

>>8595779
So replace the ugly sprites with better ones from the community. Hell, there are even some better ones that have been submitted to the project, but not added for some reason or another.
Unless you meant textures in which case, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.8595868]

>>8595848
I want TNT Devilution to come out. It pains me, that it's been basically done for 2 years except for one map.

[Anonymous No.8595872]

>>8595848
Always gets mentioned here but that 3D Realms acquisition seemed to fuck things up for them big time. Even worse for me was waiting for that big update to come to GOG a month after the Steam version with GOG and Voidpoint/3DR pointing fingers at each other.
At least it’s on the horizon and the devs are still there, unlike Overload and Revival...

[Anonymous No.8595894]

Does Eternity Engline display monster count? I can't find the settings. I decided to switch it to play Valiant so it does episodes correctly, but now I can't find monster count toggle.

[Anonymous No.8595913]

Who was in the wrong here?
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.games.doom.ii/c/Fhfl5PHTbVk/m/0eSgX8fkDJcJ

[Anonymous No.8595921]

>>8595848
It's still against that fucking bald dude? Fuck this game.

[Anonymous No.8595932]

Pastebins and imgur guides have a tendency to be out of date, so I'll just ask real quick: Is Quakespasm the most recommended port? If yes, I can take care of the rest myself.

[Anonymous No.8595936]

Whats the best source port for blood?

[Anonymous No.8595939]

>>8595913

[Anonymous No.8595940]

Just play the original versions faggots

[Anonymous No.8595972]

>>8592829
Hey, what about Terrytraps, then?

[Anonymous No.8595989]

>>8595936
Raze/Nblood and GDX.

[Anonymous No.8596013]

>>8595932
>Is Quakespasm the most recommended port?
That or Quakespasm Spiked. There’s a newer fork of it called “Ironwail” that’s really good on performance and some other features/sprinkles.

[Anonymous No.8596049]

>>8595848
Im hyped for the Amid Evil expansion.

[Anonymous No.8596059]

>>8596049
Are they just going to make axe replacement in terms of weapons?

[Anonymous No.8596082]

How do you guys feel about the Jedi Knight games?

[Anonymous No.8596086]

>>8596082
kino

[Anonymous No.8596101]

>>8596013
Great. Thanks.

>>8596082
Wish I could get Outcast running nice in Widescreen. I kinda get there, but things get buggery.

[Anonymous No.8596183]

>>8596082
>Jedi Knight games
They're the real and canon Star Wars sequels

[Anonymous No.8596197]

>>8596082
They’re great, as is Dark Forces. Jedi Academy felt like it had more straightforward level design but was still fun. Also a type of melee combat you’ll never see again.

[Anonymous No.8596232]

>>8595550
Guys don't look at the quote in DUMP 2 MAP22, worst mistake of my life.

[Anonymous No.8596253]

Play Perdition's Gate

[Anonymous No.8596258]

FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT TIME! Tonight we're fragging on Uptight Deathmatch. Get in here and let's get this shit started!
51.161.34.159:10666

[Anonymous No.8596263]

>>8595848
3D Realms is a vaporware company now.

[Anonymous No.8596267]

>>8594551
DAKKA's been around for awhile, it's a fucking excellent gameplay mod. This is just a fan interpretation of him.

http://git.jinotra.in/ijon/dakka/src/master/README.md

[Anonymous No.8596302]

>>8596263
The Wrath team is consistently putting out update posts talking about their recent work, even if the game hasn't updated in some time. It seems like they're still making it.

...I want to believe.

[Anonymous No.8596304]

>>8588126
They are healed in Jesus' holy name.

[Anonymous No.8596307]

You don't 100% this map if you don't do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKq3-4CZdgM

[Anonymous No.8596323]

>>8596267
Dakka is so fucking good, it's a little bit overpowered vs vanilla but everything is just geared towards having a fun time.

It's also some crazy fucking witchcraft that it's a Zandronum-compatible mod.

[Anonymous No.8596339]

>>8595126
Sorry if a bit off topic, but how do you get to draw somewhat fine in this... "paint style" or whatever its called? Mostly just interested as I still haven't really tried myself at pixel art, MIDI, mapping... modding... I stuck with writing texts, damn it.
>>8595383
...perhaps? I guess there's a certain logic in your point, but I'm too dumb right now for no apparent reason. Affects my job & hobby for a bit, which does suck.
>>8595872
>Always gets mentioned here but that 3D Realms acquisition seemed to fuck things up for them big time.
Its either that or seething Scott Miller that wants all the praise.

[Anonymous No.8596342]

>>8596263
>now

[Anonymous No.8596363]

>>8596339
You could probably get that effect you're looking for by using a square brush and make it a little bigger. Enable pixel perfect accuracy would help, that's available in Aseprite, or Libresprite if you don't want to pay for it.

https://github.com/LibreSprite/LibreSprite

[Anonymous No.8596380]

>>8596263
What a fucking disappointment. I mean its fucking cheapo games to make. And you cant even manage a small studio like that. All those promises and ideas and realms deep shit just to wither away.

[Anonymous No.8596394]

>>8596258
I'm completely clueless on doom MP, what do I need for this? Zandronum?

[Anonymous No.8596397]

>>8596394
Yes, Zandronum. You can use doomseeker, which should have been bundled with Zandro's installer, to connect and it will automatically download all the wads you need.
There's not really any rules, just don't be an obnoxious faggot.

[Anonymous No.8596416]

>>8596397
>just don't be an obnoxious faggot.
Remember that guy that bitched about the skin pack, when Zandro has a built-in clientside skin toggle? That was funny.

[Anonymous No.8596428]

>>8596416
now you say "bitched about it" are we talking about them not liking the /vr/ skin pack?
I bring this up because I joined at one point a week or so ago and thought the /vr/ skin pack wasn't added to the server, it had turned out my skin got reset when I switched over to Zandy 3.1
I can't imagine someone actually disliking the /vr/ skin pack though.

[Anonymous No.8596437]

>>8596428
This was well before Zandro 3.1, they were complaining, specifically about how annoying the sounds from the Cirno skin were. lmao.

[Anonymous No.8596440]

>>8596437
Oh I remember that dork. I switched to the Cirno skin that day too, and I think a few other Anons did the same thing.
That update to the Cirno skin with the Fumo crouch sprites is still really funny.

[Anonymous No.8596443]

>>8596428
>>8596437
Don't forget about how they went on doomworld the next day to bitch about anime and then proceeded to be called a faggot by everyone in the thread.

[Anonymous No.8596445]

>>8596263
Theyre just a publisher.

[Anonymous No.8596461]

>>8596397
Joined and it was fun, but too laggy (I assume because it's apparently hosted in france).

[Anonymous No.8596467]

>>8596461
For clarification, it's hosted in Beauharnois, Quebec. Glad you had fun, anon.

[Anonymous No.8596506]

DOSBox chads rise up

[Anonymous No.8596525]

>>8596506
>doesn't have his folders named under DOS naming scheme restrictions

[Anonymous No.8596562]

>>8596363
>You could probably get that effect
Probably should've noted that I have only a mouse for all this... and also touchpad, which could actually be better for drawing in theory. Seems possible, but who knows. I'm just useless "idea guy" (as if those were ever useful).
Although I've been thinking about LibreSprite since compiling Aseprite didn't really seemed feasible for me with my potato laptop.

[Anonymous No.8596576]

>>8596380
>I mean its fucking cheapo games to make.
It's not about being "cheap". It's about being able to do shit with the likes of DarkPlaces and eDuke32. The number of people that knows how to develop for those engines are very few and there's only so much that they can do, especially since for many (if not all) its not even their main job.

[Anonymous No.8596667]

How do I get the status bar across the full width in Quakespasm? I like a few modernizations in my source ports, but I want my stupidly big status bars.

[Anonymous No.8596681]

>>8596667
Mess around in the console with “scr_sbarscale”

[Anonymous No.8596687]

>>8596681
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.8596702]

>>8596443
Based.

[Anonymous No.8596712]

I just think it's neat!

[Anonymous No.8596724]

Posting first map not because I want it rated but I need help with why my doors don't work right. I left the door ahead of the red key open because I couldn't figure out how to get it to close from the other side. Also wanted to do more than one secret but my other secret doors weren't working either.
https://files.catbox.moe/2zl6px.wad

[Anonymous No.8596826]

>>8596724
Linedefs on door sectors need to be facing the direction the player will use them from, most editors have a notch on the liedef showing which side is the front, make sure it's pointing outwards, flip the linedef if it isn't.

[Anonymous No.8596830]

>>8595637
What is he lying about?

[Anonymous No.8596834]

>>8596830
There is no way it could run at 60 FPS

[Anonymous No.8596848]

>want to make a small script to put optional hints on the main menu when mod is started or paused
>doing this is probably more work than just writing a fucking manual because zscript menus are cancer
GRAAAAAAAAAAF

[Anonymous No.8596856]

>>8596562
I do all of my art with a mouse. So don't sell yourself short.

[Anonymous No.8596884]

Worked on MAP05 and 10 of this. Try it out frens

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/127269-vigor-vanilla-compatible-megawad/

[Anonymous No.8596904]

Hellbound is tedious as fuck who's the clown who recommended this.

[Anonymous No.8596907]

>>8596904
Just skip the second stage. It's fucking abhorrent.

[Anonymous No.8596908]

>>8596904
me, i tricked you pretty good didn't i

[Anonymous No.8596915]

added some stairs

[Anonymous No.8596923]

>>8596907
Does it really get better? The third stage looked even worse, specially that fucking teleporting Imp gank squad

>>8596908
You fucker

[Anonymous No.8596926]

>>8596923
It does get better, but I'd still personally rank Hellbound pretty low on .WADs I'd want to play.

[Anonymous No.8596934]

>>8596904
>>8596923
>>8596926
I enjoyed the first half with Hideous Destructor, but it's pretty heavy on hell nobles and I could see that being boring with vanilla balance.

[Anonymous No.8596940]

>>8596926
I think I'll shelf it for now, I got blinded by the cool looking urban environnent and thought the gameplay would at least be on par. Back to Plutonia I guess.

[Anonymous No.8596959]

>>8591268
actually is 45 rocket shots, perhaps.

[Anonymous No.8596972]

>>8596258
Killed, thanks for joining

[Anonymous No.8597063]

Man, the music in Doom 1 is so awesome. Very refreshing after listening to the elevator music in Doom 2 for too many wads.

[Anonymous No.8597079]

>>8596834
what if they used teh snes doom engin

[Anonymous No.8597085]

>>8596904
Gotta be one of the most overrated wads. People like to call it a city wad but there's only like 5 city levels. Most of it is rectangular, maze-y, same-y techbases featuring a whole fuck ton of door combat. Then the hell episode comes by and it's just as bad.

[Anonymous No.8597090]

Is it wrong for me to prefer doom software renderer over truecolor, even though I play in 1080p?

[Anonymous No.8597095]

>>8597090
It literally does not matter. Do what you want

[Anonymous No.8597102]

>>8597079
i realize you're joking... but converting that to run on a saturn would be a huge effort.

and it doesn't even really make sense for a hardware accelerated port

[Anonymous No.8597187]

>>8597063
I found DOOM 2's music to be very meh.

[Anonymous No.8597190]

>finish ep 1 of wolf 3d in ECwolf
>suddenly I cant move up or down in the menu

wtf bros

[Anonymous No.8597276]

I'm running more tests on 51.161.34.159:10666, server name is /vr/ Waiting Room. If you'd like to help, join and do everything in your power to break the server.

[Anonymous No.8597280]

>>8596915
I like the lighting. This is already impressive. Looking forward to seeing what comes of it.

[Anonymous No.8597380]

>>8597276
Killed. Thanks for joining, we'll probably run this for Sunday.

[Anonymous No.8597385]

[Anonymous No.8597392]

[Anonymous No.8597402]

>>8596915
The light looks nice here, I agree with the other guy.

[Anonymous No.8597408]

>>8596856
>So don't sell yourself short.
It's too easy and became natural to me. Got to work on that, I know. Thanks, Kegan.
>>8597385
Can you make the game look like its DOS version in ECWolf or there's other source port for that out there.

[Anonymous No.8597414]

>>8597385
Agreed, mostly.

[Anonymous No.8597415]

>>8597187
Doom 2 has some great ones, but it inexplicably reuses some tracks too much, often leaving you hearing some of the much cooler tracks only oncs.

[Anonymous No.8597429]

>>8596267
Thank you very much I have been playing it all evening, this is a riot! I am new to conversions, last one I played was Aliens TC like 20 years ago.

[Anonymous No.8597439]

send unto me your favorite duke3d maps/mods.

[Anonymous No.8597441]

>>8597392
/vr/ makes its own retro FPS with ass magic when?

[Anonymous No.8597467]

Going back to old wads and trying to play them saveless is a good way to see that I actually improved. I didn't die on valiant's MAP01 once, lol.

[Anonymous No.8597485]

>>8597439
currently playing "Duke, It's Zero Hour!" extremely fun 90s tc with custom monsters and weapons, unfortunately it's exclusive to dos as far as I can tell, here's my copy with updated maps and art tiles, I highly recommend copying a duke 3d installation into a throwaway folder then unzipping the mod into it, run zerohour.bat to install it and the u can run duke3d.exe to play it: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810405089754873906/939435976500072448/Duke_Its_Zero_Hour.7z

[Anonymous No.8597508]

Are there any decent vanilla-style texture packs for Doom? I want some more variety for a project I'm working on but I want it to have a more vanilla-y look.

[Anonymous No.8597535]

>>8597508
Check the Doom Style section of Realm667's texture stock if you haven't already. Doom textures for Doom 2 and idtex are must-have if you want to expand vanilla Doom 2's texture set.

[Anonymous No.8597580]

>>8595913
Pretty neat to see. Is there any way to find old discussion when people found out TNT would be bundled with another 32 level set?

[Anonymous No.8597605]

>>8597485
I want a port of the N64 game to Eduke

[Anonymous No.8597609]

>>8597485
this looks radical, thanks for the rec

[Anonymous No.8597612]

>>8597605
For a second I thought you meant Duke Nukem 64, and was wondering why you didn't just play it directly through Rednukem.

[Anonymous No.8597620]

>>8597580
Search the same channel for Final Doom. I found a guy saying "please include the nailguns from Quake in Final Doom". Guy was also ballsy enough to put his physical address in his signature, further proof that the only good thing to come from Paeroa is L&P.

[Anonymous No.8597816]

Don't listen to the critics. Classics Revolution is still the best way to play the first and second encounters of Serious Sam

[Anonymous No.8597901]

I'm a newfag and have recently finished doom 1&2. Now my question is should I go and experience the doom 2 wads or go onto the other titles in the genre?

[Anonymous No.8597923]

>>8597485
There's eduke version of it in a compilation.

[Anonymous No.8597930]

>>8597901
Doom is the way to go. Now you just have to decide do want to start with modern wads or chronologically from 90s classics. If you go to modern stuff Scythe 2, Skillsaw's wads or btsx series are good place to start. Keep in mind that these are way harder than originals, so it would be retarded to go saveless uv before getting familiar with modern combat. If you are going chronologically from 90s, Final Doom and Memento Moris are good starting point.

[Anonymous No.8597932]

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN, SCREENSHOT SATURDAY.
WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO POST THAT SHIT, OR LATER MAYBE, I'M POSTING THIS REALLY EARLY IN THE MORNING AGAIN.

[Anonymous No.8597934]

>>8597901
Play Final Doom or at least Plutonia. Then No Rest for the Living.

[Anonymous No.8597937]

>>8597934
Also Sigil.

[Anonymous No.8597960]

>>8597930
>>8597934
I think I will start with the early ones first and see how they feel. Memento Mori and SIGIL looks promising, thanks.

[Anonymous No.8597962]

>>8597932
I reworked my test chamber to stick closer to the alpha style and also mixed in the wormhole skybox opening at the top from the beta test chamber. The idea here is that initially there is machinery to create the portal, and then when the portal 'opens' it's just hiding the machinery which is a big func_brush and a couple of func_rotating.
Not compiled or lit yet since I actually want to start building out the rest of the level leading to it first so I can then start on a first pass of the post disaster state/gameplay.

[Anonymous No.8597965]

>>8597962
and here's what it used to look like
new one seems like a downgrade (and it kind of is, for now compared to this) but I feel like the 0.52 test chamber was iconic enough to give some proper polish.

[Anonymous No.8597982]

WOOF HAS COLOURED BLOOD
BLUE CACO AND GREEN GOAT JUICE HOLY FUCK

[Anonymous No.8597987]

>>8589936
I respectfully disagree.

[Anonymous No.8598009]

>>8597987
lol

[Anonymous No.8598012]

>>8597982
Colored blood and mirrored corpses in DSDA never ever

[Anonymous No.8598081]

>>8597987

[Anonymous No.8598147]

>>8595106
That's cool! The OG blursphere had a very HD air of mystique about it though, I'll miss it.

[Anonymous No.8598175]

>>8597932
Trouble.

[Anonymous No.8598180]

>>8597932
Foolishness.

[Anonymous No.8598190]

>>8597932
Mayhem

[Anonymous No.8598240]

>>8596712
it sounds so piddly though

[Anonymous No.8598263]

Quake Pro League is back for the ol /arena/ residents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68O34V7A1_E

[Anonymous No.8598294]

>>8597932
I don't have any doom projects going since I started working in unity, but I did find this.
https://github.com/jmickle66666666/DoomUnity
It's unfinished, but kinda neat. Looks like it's a bit abandoned.
Woulda been cool to make a freedoom computer in-game or some such.

[Anonymous No.8598330]

>>8597901
Final Doom and Doom 64 are well worth experiencing. TNT is somewhat rough, but it also has a lot to offer if you're willing to push through the less nice parts (nobody will hold it against you if you skip Metal or Habitat).

[Anonymous No.8598357]

>>8598294
Actually just noticed that they've continued work on, privately for some reason.
乁( •_• )ㄏ

[Anonymous No.8598471]

Damn Hexen 2 sure shits the bed with the two last levels, the combat in the first 3 chapters was really fun, especially with the Cheetahmen or whatever they're called in the Aztec levels, but then they just gave up and filled the last stages with boring bullet sponges.

[Anonymous No.8598512]

>>8597932
>function relies on prefixing actor names to work
>has gone through like 5 iterations in the last 3 days because it keeps crashing with weird edge case shit (ex: oh you fired across a room longer than your range? Crash)
>should really be 4 separate functions but I can't be arsed to split it up properly
>however, it dramatically simplifies the weapon code by doing all the logic for tracers inside of it instead of in the weapons
I'm not sorry. Also fuck ZScript menus.

[Anonymous No.8598553]

>>8595913
Dude announced it before he could announce that it was id software itself that was going to release the wad
Idiocy
Everyone was thinking it was going to some Dzone tier compilation or something
>We made TNT too cool
>You expect us to pay for a pwad?

[Anonymous No.8598582]

>>8597987
Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and Timesplitters were never good.

[Anonymous No.8598592]

>>8597535
>>8597508
Doom textures for Doom 2 will cause the idgames archive to reject your wad for including id assets

[Anonymous No.8598631]

>>8598582
>Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and Timesplitters were never good.

[Anonymous No.8598639]

>>8598592
I asked idgames maintainers and they said they won't. CC4 and the like are on idgames and have IWAD resources, just not the ones from DOOM2.WAD

[Anonymous No.8598667]

>>8598639
Well they must have changed their minds since it happened to me years ago.

[Anonymous No.8598672]

>>8598667
You could have accidentally dragged a patch from Doom 2 into the mix or something.

[Anonymous No.8598680]

>>8598471
You mean the last two hubs?
I do agree the Roman hub has way too many of the spongy super archers. But the final hub in Blackmarsh is solid. And Eidolon's Lair has cool traps and level design.

[Anonymous No.8598705]

>>8597508
Jimmytex
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1jekgx9smgyjww/jimmytex.wad

[Anonymous No.8598720]

Would anyone play a Chex quest wad? Want to do one just for shits and giggles.

[Anonymous No.8598726]

>>8598720
Mechanically, wouldn't it be just a doom wad?

[Anonymous No.8598738]

>>8598680
The final hub felt a bit better but it had the annoying spongy teleporting wizards.

[Anonymous No.8598751]

>>8598726
Yeah for the most part but Chex quest is missing weapons and generally every enemy projectile is nerfed, no hitscan enemies exist and the zombie humans and sarges are strictly melee

[Anonymous No.8598775]

finished Antaresian Reliquary and I really liked it
weapon redesigns, level visuals, level design (although some dragged on a bit long) really did it for me

do you know any similar wads?

[Anonymous No.8598782]

>>8598720
I would, I sometimes try it with Doom mods just to see if they work.

[Anonymous No.8598787]

>>8597932
I tried making 16 rotation sprites for the cyberdemon as a proof of concept. I won't be making any more however because I don't really like the way it looks in game.

[Anonymous No.8598804]

is the vsync implementation in prboom+um really bad or something? it introduces a crazy amount of input lag

[Anonymous No.8598835]

>>8598787
Looks great to me.

[Anonymous No.8598923]

>>8597987

[Anonymous No.8598979]

>>8598775
Paradise would be closest thing to this, if you are not allergic to gzdoom. New arsenal and Skillsaw influenced map and combat design like in Antaresian Relinquary. Hell-Forged also has new arsenal, but it has much more larger and adventurous maps with use of portals. There is also Antares' earlier megawad Struggle: Antaresian Legacy. Antares also contributed maps to Micro Slaughter CP, which is a very fun wad. Rowdy Rudy 2 has also new dehacked arsenal. I'd also like to recommend Preacher. New weapons in it are merely cosmetic, but it has really cool map design and gameplay.

[Anonymous No.8598991]

Why are Kegan and Yholl so adorable?

[Anonymous No.8599006]

>>8598979
thanks a lot for your reccomendations. I downloaded them and going start with some Paradise, hope you have a good weekend

[Anonymous No.8599056]

>>8598991
You should see some of the shit that happens when we play co-op games.
Most of the time it devolves into us trying to kill each other. Like when we play Hideous Destructor.

[Anonymous No.8599060]

>>8598720
I considered making something like this but there's really no benefit to using it over doom. The chex engine is almost identical to the doom1 engine save for a few things, the changes are quite lazy really.
The unaltered data for many doom1 things still exists even though they never show up in game. This means you can still use berserk, barrels, cacodemons and cyberdemons but the sprites are invisible by default. The enemies that do show up in game are just slightly broken doom enemies. Rather than giving the zombie enemies an actual melee attack they just designated their hitscan as melee so you can't really bait them. The boss wall from chex quest is just a baron with a fat hitbox and 0 speed. They also made lost souls have 0 height for some reason. You can view the exact changes in the "chex.deh" file sourceports use to emulate chex.

[Anonymous No.8599209]

>A_FireProjectile returns null if you try to fire a 0 radius/0 height projectile while standing against a wall
>even looking at the C++ code there's basically no fucking reason for this
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAF

[Anonymous No.8599273]

>>8599060
Interesting thing is all the Doom maps that weren't overwritten are still there in the original Chex Quest, so you can map to say E2M8 and it's there with mostly gray textures and an invisible cyberdemon.

[Anonymous No.8599280]

>>8599273
I decided to look inside chex.wad
Why so many white flats?

[Anonymous No.8599291]

>>8599280
Milk for the cereal.

[Anonymous No.8599298]

Can you stack multiple ammo items on top of each other if they're on different floors?
Like can you make a slow elevator of ammo in a kill zone where you're supposed to duke it out and use infighting?
I'm watching a Sunder map being played and I'm just wondering if that's something that could be made.

[Anonymous No.8599310]

>>8599298
Sunder is Boom, so no. Ammo will cling to the floor. It can't float in the air above another pickup, at best it'll all be on top of an invisible (but tangible) pillar.

You can teleport items in Boom though, if you need a timed access.

[Anonymous No.8599363]

PSA: In the Nintendo Power thread, we've just found out that DOOM 64 is under development. >>8592827 This is a Doom you can't ignore. Please understand that whatever Doom you were playing is about to become obsolete!

[Anonymous No.8599371]

>>8599363
Oh no I have to tell Graf.

[Anonymous No.8599423]

>>8598991
They're like a married couple

[Anonymous No.8599428]

>>8599310
That would work. Just make a door that opens and closes and when it opens, new ammo is there after being teleported.

[Anonymous No.8599480]

>>8599056
RIP Kegan, he never finished GMOTA.
>>8599423
The boxes full of Yholl in the Combined Arms monsterset greatly amuse me for this reason.

[Anonymous No.8599489]

>>8599480
I got better. Now I usually torment Yholl because he chooses to be as small as possible in HDest so I can punt him around really easily. It's fucking hilarious.
Also I'd put Miscreants up there really high as some of my favorite monsters I've made, even if they're just bootleg Putti from HDest.
You should reverse some of the things they say and hear what Yholl actually said

[Anonymous No.8599493]

>>8599489
I SHIT BLOOD AND THUNDER

[Anonymous No.8599497]

>>8599489
Honestly the laughs, screams and spits are the best sounds.

[Anonymous No.8599505]

>>8599363
>The Bull Masters have been hunting you relentlessly
What did Midway mean by this?

[Anonymous No.8599531]

>>8599505
It means you need to get your act together and stop acting so foolishly.

[Anonymous No.8599559]

>>8597932


gonna try and work on this skin some more.

[Anonymous No.8599612]

>>8599489
>You should reverse some of the things they say and hear what Yholl actually said
I'm one of those strange people who can understand English backwards, IDK why, it doesn't work for my native language.
>>8599497
I love the idle ones because they're just [Yholl noises].

[Anonymous No.8599616]

>>8599612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNSda2i0b0w

slam ya grandma

[Anonymous No.8599618]

>>8599489
Hey can you send me the raw unedited clip for CBEDIE1? I need it for research purposes, thanks

[Anonymous No.8599635]

>>8599618
Can do.
https://vocaroo.com/1fjknQf6gHJ1

and if you're wondering the context for all of this:
https://www.twitch.tv/cptsledge/clip/AthleticCourteousPandaPeteZarollTie

[Anonymous No.8599639]

>>8599635
Thanks. I gave this map in 2048 lots of shit but this alone saves the entire thing.

[Anonymous No.8599648]

>>8599639
It's amazing what HDest can do to maps.

[Anonymous No.8599685]

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[Anonymous No.8599880]

I'll get to baking

[Anonymous No.8599907]

No news, huh?
NEW THREAD
>>8599904
>>8599904
>>8599904

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>>8597923
yes but it doesn't work properly