/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8580884]

Why is Wind Waker commonly rated above Twilight Princess when Twilight Princess is superior?

[Anonymous No.8580892]

ww is better

[Anonymous No.8580895]

>>8580884
I actually enjoy playing WW.

[Anonymous No.8581010]

Nostalgia/zelda cycle and having better graphics.

[Anonymous No.8581025]

>>8580884
The same reason BotW got jerked off so much, critics care more about concepts than execution. The concept of Wind Waker is tantalizing even if it completely bungles it.

[Anonymous No.8581054]

They're both a chore to replay. The beginning of WW is a drag with that awful stealth dungeon section and TP is full of bloat because supreme gamers wanted a "mature" Zelda.

[Anonymous No.8581089]

>TP: Forces you to be dog with awful stiff movement and shit controls
>WW: Forces you to go sailing with kino music, and is fun to control
I take the sailing in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous No.8581118]

>>8580884
The people doing this are the same people that gave Skyward Sword a 10/10

I love Wind Waker, but TP is indeed the superior Zelda experience

[Anonymous No.8581123]

Wind Waker is cute and soulful despite its lower dungeon count and tedious stretches in the main quest here and there.

Twilight Princess is just a glorified remake of OoT that takes 6 hours to get the fuck going and tons of gimmick items you'll never use again outside of their dungeon.

[Anonymous No.8581126]

Wind Waker's cardinal sin is being way too easy. The dungeons besides the Wind Temple are almost completely linear and nothing does more than 1 heart of damage at max. Other than that, it's a really good game. God-tier music, timeless artstyle, the best incarnations of Link and Zelda, Ganondorf has more than one dimension to him, and exploring the ocean is a really fun concept even if quite a few islands are duds. I actually didn't mind the Triforce quest as it encouraged you to explore and the game didn't hold your hand on what to do. Maybe there should've been an extra dungeon or two.

[Anonymous No.8581136]

They’re both inferior to the N64 games but Wind Waker has a better art style

[Anonymous No.8581146]

>>8581089
This. /thread

[Anonymous No.8581159]

>>8581123
>tons of gimmick items you'll never use again outside their dungeon
Holy shit this. Say what you want about Wind Waker's dungeons but every single item got more than extensive use throughout the game. Even in OoT, every item that wasn't the Bow, Bombs, or Hookshot felt very limited in use.

[Anonymous No.8581196]

>>8581123
this, you actually use every dungeon item in WW outside of dungeons
>>8581126
This too, it is on the easy side, but WWHD at least adds Hero Mode which has been backported to betterww and rando
>>8581136
True

[Anonymous No.8581202]

>>8581159
I'm still kinda let down by the lack of use for Lens of Truth in both OOT and MM's overworlds. So much potential otherwise.

[Anonymous No.8581217]

>>8581089
>sailing with kino music
Never happened. WW has a trash music during sailing.

[Anonymous No.8581224]

>>8581202
should have been used to see through girls clothes

[Anonymous No.8581227]

>8581217
lol

[Anonymous No.8581230]

I haven't played WW in 15 years and I can still instantly recall the sailing music in my head.

[Anonymous No.8581774]

I get the feeling Zelda stopped being good after Majoras Mask and Oracle. The older games have their share of detractors and faults but pretty much all the Nu-Aonuma stuff is lambasted across the board. Why didnt they just let Koizumi be the IP lead instead?

[Anonymous No.8581792]

>>8581774
>but pretty much all the Nu-Aonuma stuff is lambasted across the board
Every Aonuma Zelda game has been critically lauded besides Skyward Sword and the DS games.

[Anonymous No.8581840]

>>8580884
Windwaker is objectively the worst retro Zelda. It is a 35 hour tutorial. Even with how gay wind waker is, it is better by default

[Anonymous No.8581904]

It's just easier to respect The Wind Waker as a game. Every facet of its identity is original, whereas Twilight Princess is stylized after Ocarina of Time on a deep level.

that said, I think Twilight Princess is easily the better game under scrutiny. Both are piss easy, but Twilight Princess' puzzles aren't as brain dead and its dungeons are some of the most engaging in the entire series. They're not as complex as OoT or MM, but they all perfectly nail their central gimmicks and themes.

The Wind Waker has a better story, but Twilight Princess has better scripting and cinematography. The pace actually speeds up the more you play instead of grinding to a screeching halt with the Triforce Hunt.

Combat's simple for both games, but Twilight Princess at least gives you a bunch of skills so you can play around with light combos. The Wind Waker's swordplay is just Parry to Win.

TP's bosses suck, but it has amazing mini-bosses. Hyrule is also not as empty as people say it is and actually has a bunch of side content to go through. The Great Sea is just a slog.

[Anonymous No.8581907]

[Anonymous No.8581913]

>>8581907
Every Zelda game after Majora excepting the Capcom games has been progressively shittier. I have a soft spot for WW but you'd have to be blind to deny it was the beginning of the end.

[Anonymous No.8581938]

because we played zelda as kids when we were actually happy and not depressed emo faggots

but now that we're all depressed emo faggots we appreciate tp more

[Anonymous No.8581957]

>>8581089
this

[Anonymous No.8581967]

>>8580884
TP is worse in every way

[Anonymous No.8581998]

>>8580884
TP's version of Hyrule Field is even worse to navigate than the Great Sea.

[Anonymous No.8582018]

>>8580884
best smelling poop contest

[Anonymous No.8582029]

>>8581840
retard anon?

[Anonymous No.8582143]

>>8581998
TP's Hyrule field is one of the biggest let downs of all time because the literal promise of TP boiled down to
>Ocarina of Time, but on the scale of Wind Waker
and then the field was fragmented, claustrophobic and totally devoid of anything interesting.

[Anonymous No.8582178]

>>8580884
Twilight Princess is the worst Zelda game. I'd rather play Skyward Sword honestly.

[Anonymous No.8582409]

>>8581907
he's not wrong.

[Anonymous No.8582549]

Wind Waker is literally unfinished and has the worst overworld of any 3D Zelda

[Anonymous No.8582551]

>>8581010
>better graphics.
If you can call this graphics

[Anonymous No.8582560]

>>8581089
Sailing in one direction for five minutes is so fun

>>8581907
>XXX
Newfag here what is that

[Anonymous No.8582605]

>>8581907
shit meme. the people who parrot this garbage don't understand the simple reality that zelda fans aren't one person.

[Anonymous No.8582623]

>>8581054
Agreed i had to literally force myself to finish windwaker and

[Anonymous No.8582634]

>>8582605
Based, it's just minorities becoming more and less vocal at different times. "X is one person" arguments are good enough for smuh reddit faggots though.

[Anonymous No.8582639]

>>8582551
Cel shading is an acquired taste.

[Anonymous No.8582643]

>>8582639
No part of that is even shaded, it's the exact same shade of blue all over except under the shadows.

[Anonymous No.8582659]

>>8582643
>No part of that is even shaded except the shadows
ok guy

[Anonymous No.8582664]

>>8582659
I misspoke actually, the shadows aren't shaded just a solid darker color.

[Anonymous No.8582670]

>>8582605
>>8581907
It kills me that people actually think it's some kind of clever observation when they say this shit. I feel like anyone with any amount of critical thinking skills should be able to figure out that, no shit, when you have a huge group of people that like something, and you change direction, fucking of course the people that liked the last one are going to pipe up and make a ton of noise.

[Anonymous No.8582694]

>>8582670
Just ignore them or tell them to ktt. BOTW trannies are trying to rewrite the history of how that game was taken on /v/ for some reason now.

[Anonymous No.8582702]

>>8582664
Do you understand what cel shading is?

[Anonymous No.8582703]

I don't think that WW was good, in fact I think that it was awful. There is really not much that i can remember being particularly good about it like other games, it's all just subpar. I think TP was more interesting.

[Anonymous No.8582709]

>>8582702
No, and why is this relevant, anyway? No matter what it means it won't change the fact that a lot of a playthrough of Windwaker involves staring at a solid color.

[Anonymous No.8582714]

What really bugs me is this shrill contrarian reaction to the fact that TP was trying to make up for WW.

Wind Waker was easily the worst Zelda game at the time of Twilight Princess's release. Just the fucking worst. The game is easy, the sailing is boring, the game is easy, there's no exploring (no, WW is easily the worst game in the series if you're measuring by the "something worth finding:time spent looking around" metric. There's going to be some faggot screaming about the much superior BotW here, he's wrong), and to top it all off, it's still the easiest Zelda game by a country mile. It's shit. There's literally no reason to like it except that you were in middle school when you tried it and you thought it was good when everyone around you hated it. It's shit.

So when TP tries to make good, the WW community HAS to respond. You ever notice that the MM community never gets upset that TP tried to "set the clock back to OoT" after MM tried to mix it up? It's because only the WW fanboys get upset about the existence of TP. TP is an okay game, and that's okay. But the WW fans to this day have to pretend there's a competition that they can win, even though they can't.

Neither of them is even the best Zelda game on GCN. In Four Swords I can grab a friend and chuck him off a cliff because he was gonna steal that sweet powerup that I was gonna nab cause I earned it.

[Anonymous No.8582726]

>>8582643
Yes they are. Link and the entire boat are cel shaded.

Let me guess, you think cel shaded objects can't be textured?

[Anonymous No.8582731]

>>8582714
BOTW is the worst thing to happen to Zelda, and now also Pokemon and maybe even Mario.

[Anonymous No.8582732]

>>8582726
I was referring to the ocean you retard.

[Anonymous No.8582741]

>>8581159
>>8581196
Eh, I dunno, the Hookshot came too late into the game to see much use, and it felt gimped compared to its OoT/MM version, since for whatever reason they only made it work on very specific surfaces, whereas in OoT it worked all over the place.

[Anonymous No.8582743]

>>8582732
LOL well guess what, fucking moron, you said "No part of that" to a screenshot of Link on a boat. Link and the boat ARE the screenshot.

[Anonymous No.8582749]

>>8582743
I am a retard for saying that, yes.

[Anonymous No.8582751]

>>8582731
No it isn't. BotW is a good game and you're mad as fuck that it brought the series back to its free-roaming roots: Zelda 1.

[Anonymous No.8582765]

>>8582751
>It's in the same "style" as a mid 80s game if that's even comparable so that means that it's good and you're not allowed to criticize it else you're not a true fan or something

So fucking sick of this. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.8582767]

>>8582749
I am never going to forget this. It's not that you made me mad or anything. It is literally that this whole interaction was so retarded that I will just fucking never give you the satisfaction of forgetting this series of posts.

I'm going to have some kind of old man loses all memories disease and this is experience is going to be my last words nonetheless. Remember that.

[Anonymous No.8582770]

>>8582560
There was a big obsession with getting dubs and trips at that time on /v/, so moot obscured the last three digits in a failed attempt to stem the retardation.

[Anonymous No.8582773]

>>8582767
This is the stupidest interaction you've ever had on 4chan? Really?

[Anonymous No.8582774]

>>8582560
/b/ and /v/ used to have the last three digits of post numbers replaced by XXX to get rid of GET and dubs threads.

[Anonymous No.8582778]

>>8582773
This is remarkably innocent in it stupidity and at the same time I bet it's from a 35 year old guy saying it to me. So yes, that all counts for a lot. There's a lot of factors going on here, don't try to dodge.

[Anonymous No.8582785]

>>8580884
They both have similar problems. They both have terrible pacing and they were both a step down from the N64 Zeldas. Wind Waker Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword were all equally underwhelming. Nintendo releasing 3 mediocre Zelda games in a row almost killed the series.

[Anonymous No.8582793]

>>8581904
>Wind Waker
>Every facet of its identity is original
Wind Waker is literally a watered down OoT rehash

[Anonymous No.8582794]

>my nearly perfect game is not perfect enough, so i'm gonna bitch about it!
Fucking GO PLAY HYDLIDE. Dumb bitches.

[Anonymous No.8582796]

>>8582778
Nope, I'm actually a teenager. Now I've ruined your day.

[Anonymous No.8582813]

>>8582796
You're actually a 57 year old grandma.

[Anonymous No.8582832]

>>8582813
Wrong, only zoomers post 'jaks.

[Anonymous No.8582879]

>>8581089
based contrarian autist

[Anonymous No.8582890]

>>8581998
???
Do you have a spacial sensory issue?
How do you have trouble navigating TP's Hyrule field? It's a basic map that even has roads that lead to all the exits

[Anonymous No.8582898]

>>8580884
Nobody says this. Go shill your youtube channel elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.8582918]

>>8582898
It's said here all the time

[Anonymous No.8582948]

>>8582918
It's "said" here. It isn't actually argued here with any material arguments.

[Anonymous No.8582956]

>8582879
You're fucked in the head if you think WW is the contrarian choice, 0/10 bait got me to reply but no you for you.

[Anonymous No.8582967]

Anyway, as agreed by everyone, only contrarians think that sailing around an empty ocean and grabbing triforce shards for for hours is fun. Glad anyone with a brain (or anyone who is observing and is trying to figure out for themselves) can clearly see the whole truth of the matter. TP is clearly better by just being Zelda wihout bullshit like visiting Tingle and giving him 100000000000 rupees because reasons.

[Anonymous No.8583001]

Why does anyone think any Zelda game besides the original NES game is any good at all?

[Anonymous No.8583045]

>>8582765
Only someone who wasn’t a true Zelda fan would say that.

[Anonymous No.8583121]

>>8580884
It was way more risky, TP was like Ocarina of Time x10 bigger but just that, is not that something that was already good could be better by being bigger. Even if Wind Waker was a bit shorter and rushed it was more memorable.

[Anonymous No.8583267]

>>8582751
And much like Zelda 1, it's in an empty world
That's really my only gripe with BotW I still like it but it's not my favorite in the series. Oh and not too big a fan of shrines, the puzzles are expectedly hit or miss

[Anonymous No.8583281]

>8583001

[Anonymous No.8583296]

I agree op

[Anonymous No.8583316]

Wind Waker

>It's easy
It's enjoyed for its story

>It's Ocarina of Time rehash
Story's not the same, it's way more open world

>Sailing
Exploring

>Triforce quest
If you didn't jump at chance to get a triforce piece when you acquired the each map, maybe you don't really care about Zelda. If you leave them for last, it will be boring

[Anonymous No.8583342]

>>8583121
So you'd rather have a piece of shit instead of more of a good thing
Makes me think

[Anonymous No.8583446]

>>8582694
This shit has been regurgitated since before BOTW was a twinkle in Aonuma's hackneyed eye and it hasn't always been used in relation to Zelda. I'm tired of people saying this shit and being smug about it when it's not in any way an intelligent observation.

[Anonymous No.8583517]

>>8581196
>you actually use every dungeon item in WW outside of dungeons

The same is true of TP

[Anonymous No.8583595]

>>8581904
>Combat's simple for both games, but Twilight Princess at least gives you a bunch of skills so you can play around with light combos

The backslice and helm splitter from TP are in WW as QTE prompts

[Anonymous No.8583597]

>>8581957
Was there a tropical craze during the 6th gen or japan?

[Anonymous No.8583725]

>>8581907
I think Zeruda stale, so i make Windu Waika (and not tell Miyamoto-san I made it look like that)

You hate Windu Waika and tink it fo babies, so I forrow forrow OOT and make Tuwairaito purincess.

Ooooo but you BUY TUWAIRAITO PURINCESS MORE DEN MY BEROVUED WIND WAIKA

WELL FUCKU YOU, I IN CHARGE OF ZERUDA NOT YOU. I MAKU SIXXU MORE GAMES DAT ROOK JUST RIKE WINDU WAIKA

I MAKE ZERUDA ONLY FOR ONE PERSON, ME! I HATE ZERUDA I HATE OCTOROKS I HATU OOT RINK WHY DON'T YOU RUV MY WINDU WAIKA ROOK FOR ZERUDA ALREADY!?

DAT WHY HERO OF TIME BECOME SAD SKERINGTON AND YOU WIRR NEVAH GET SEQURL!!

[Anonymous No.8584195]

>>8582793
It follows the "formula," but it's more subversive in execution:

Intro is a dungeon, only two dungeons in the first half, the Master Sword isn't even powered up when you get it, the second half is broken up by the Triforce hunt, etc.

[Anonymous No.8584224]

>>8583595
TP's skills are much better than WW's parries. There's more of them and they aren't limited to QTEs. Darknuts are usually the enemies which best show off the swordfighting in a Zelda game and TP's iteration are easily the most fun to fight.

[Anonymous No.8584338]

>>8584195
And what are you doing after getting the Master Sword?

[Anonymous No.8584365]

>>8583725
God I can't wait til Aonuma dies

[Anonymous No.8584376]

>>8583316
most people leave it for last because the game railroads your for so long. And the full map that opens to you after greatfish is still often inaccessible because it calls for endgame equipment. It discourages you from exploring and I'm not surprised people see it as a chore when they get the greenlight only after the majority of content has been cleared.

[Anonymous No.8584385]

>>8584376
It's interesting to compare this game to Metroid Prime, which has a similar scavenger hunt at the end of the game but makes it much more likely that you will actually find many of them before it becomes mandatory.

[Anonymous No.8584439]

>>8581089
Ah, yes. The sailing. The thing that got patched out of the remaster because it was just too much fun.
>awful stiff movement and shit controls
Stop playing video games. You aren't good at it and you never will be if you typed this out.

[Anonymous No.8584453]

>8584439
>patched out
based revisionist retard
>defending wolf controls
lol

[Anonymous No.8584468]

>>8582709
>do you understand what cel shading is?
>no, but I’m gonna keep complaining about it anyway because I’m an absolute retard.
Lol

[Anonymous No.8584473]

wind waker doesn't even have unique mini-bosses

[Anonymous No.8584565]

I much prefer Wind Waker's combat honestly. Even though enemies in WW are pretty fucking dumb stealing items from them is fun, being able to make enemies drop their items creates a ton of fun interactions, and the QTE counter is fun to do.

TP by comparison tries to do more with the skill systems but it's not really well developed at all. The only enemies in the game that actually feel designed for it are the Darknuts (which are fun to fight, but there's like 4 of them in the entire game) while the rest are just punching bags that die to button mashing even without the skills. It's also really unsatisfying knocking down an enemy and they're invincible until they get back up, I don't know what they were thinking with that one.

[Anonymous No.8584612]

>>8584376
>The game railroads you
It stops railroading you after Forest Haven. The only thing blocking your way is needing certain items

[Anonymous No.8584623]

>>8584565
>Enemies are invincible until you get up
You're supposed to kill them off with the first hidden skill you learn in the game

[Anonymous No.8584676]

>>8581089
basically this. TP is the better game but it has the shitty bug hunts. WW is more accessible, easier, shorter and has a nice art style.

[Anonymous No.8584684]

>>8582551
Yes and nice cherrypick

[Anonymous No.8584741]

>>8583316
I did triforce pieces as soon as possible and it still sucked. Doing something that sucks earlier or later doesn't change the fact it sucks

[Anonymous No.8584746]

>>8584565
based retard acting like Zelda is a hack-n-slash

[Anonymous No.8584768]

>WW has deep combat
>WW's boat has "great controls"
>it is easy to get lost in the Hyrule Field in Twilight Princess
These observations are so bizarre they almost seem like non sequiturs. We can all see these defenses of Wind Waker are psychotic and most likely autistic - essentially they follow a reasoning of "I feel so I think" instead of actually making tangible, rational observations - instead we can see these WW fans equating themselves to the vacuous, the unthinking, like savage beasts, finding no rhyme or reason to their mentality, simply "feeling their thinking" in hopes of to be. Their observations are purely based on minute mechanics, not the game itself - they grasp at minor details to fill out the complete canvas of what they want to will reality to be what they see
>>8582967
It might seem like they are being contrarian but following their reasoning it seems more likely they are authentic, yet low IQ, schizoaffective Zoomers

[Anonymous No.8585137]

>>8584565
TP just feels awful to me in a post-souls world. Not that the swordplay in souls is particularly amazing but I feel that TP enemies treat me like I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.8585386]

>>8585137
Mario just feels awful to me in a post-souls world. Not that jumping on an enemy in a 2D plane is particularly amazing but I feel that the Mario enemies treat me like I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.8585456]

>>8585386
I dont know where mario slots in here. TP ai is not good, not even for its time

[Anonymous No.8585705]

>>8581217
This is for you.

[Anonymous No.8585761]

>>8583597
Gotta show of that fancy water somehow.

[Anonymous No.8585875]

Twilight Princess is one of the shittiest games I ever played. Wind Waker had problems but let's be real here, it's not as bad as Twilight Princess.

[Anonymous No.8585998]

>>8585875
This

[Anonymous No.8586072]

>>8581774
I think it's just the original generation of the target audience grew up.

I was still a kid prior to Twilight Princess but by that point I was growing up and wanted games with more challenging and deeper gameplay/plot/whatever.

I don't think they got worse, they just didn't get better.

[Anonymous No.8586110]

>>8586072
Like, to elaborate, while I get the nostalgia people have for the series, I will never understand people who are like "NO DUDE LINK TO THE PST IS STILL THE HYPEST MOST BOMB ASS FUN GAME TO PLAY EVEN TODAY 30 YEARS LATER". Like, I always have to ask...what's so fun about it (now)?

The easy, simple combat where you bounce off enemies from a sword swing like you're in a fucking bumper car? The "puzzles" that mostly amount to checking under pots for a door switch? The exploration where you're reward for going off the beaten path is a heart piece you'll never need for the easy combat? The plot which feels barebones even compared to many Japanese 16-bit adventure games of the time?

Stuff like Ocarine of Time is a little better, there's more atmosphere and vibe to it and the gameplay got a bit deeper arguably, but it's still in a similar category.

Like don't get me wrong I'm not an autist who can't understand nostalgia or that the games were amazing for the time and pioneered genres. But don't tell me this shit is still the most amazing fun today and blows everything else out of the water, especially if you've already played it and you're not a big nostalgia goggles kind of person. It's a "pleasant" experience at best on replay.

[Anonymous No.8586160]

>>8584768
>We can all see these defenses of Wind Waker are psychotic and most likely autistic
Wind Waker fans are probably autistic so that makes sense. They think Wind Waker is the only game where Link was expressive, and one of the signs of autism is an inability to read facial expressions.

[Anonymous No.8586278]

wind waker didn't have malo

[Anonymous No.8586310]

>>8583342
I love both games man, but wind waker feels so pure. Like it's conception had more weight and things against considering it came after OoT and MM.
TP feels like something that the fans wanted instead of a brand new and unique developer's vision, TP reeks this smell of "YOU OWE ME OCARINA OF TIME PART 2 WITH SIX GEN GRAPHICS DUDE!"...

But I've just watched the trailer for the TP recently and I remembered why I love it too. We should fucking stop arguing like retards to shove our favourite games into other's throats.

[Anonymous No.8586421]

Four Swords Adventures is the best GameCube Zelda and it isn’t even close. 100% the most underrated game in the series.

[Anonymous No.8587130]

>>8580884
Both are mediocre

[Anonymous No.8587264]

Just beat WW again last night. What a great game.

[Anonymous No.8587313]

>>8584768
>it seems more likely they are authentic, yet low IQ, schizoaffective Zoomers
This, they are being serious, even if their absurdity makes it not seem so.

[Anonymous No.8587318]

>>8580884

[Anonymous No.8587402]

>>8582551
It's a stylistic choice, which happens to look very good.

[Anonymous No.8587447]

>>8582709
>Do you understand what cel-shading is?
>No, and why is this relevant, anyway?
Are you for fucking real?

>>8582643
>No part of that is even shaded
Shading doesn't have to mean gradients, you complete fucking pillock, there's other ways to use shadow and to give things volume.

[Anonymous No.8587532]

>>8587447
I love Twilight Sparkle!

[Anonymous No.8587720]

>>8582732
What shading do you need to give it with that cartoony style? It's wide open ocean, bare blue sky with the sun shining clear, the only shadow present rightly comes from the boat.

[Anonymous No.8587774]

>>8580884
TP is a formula
WW is an artistic vision

That's the difference and we all know it, so the question's answer is super obvious. TP even executed formula well, but it could never hold up to a proper original.

[Anonymous No.8587808]

>>8582664
Cel shading are actually the shadows being solids rather than gradients, the term comes precisely of how shadows were done in cel animation as solid segments of darker colors. I like TP better but fucking hell at least inform yourself about what you hate before you spew shit.

[Anonymous No.8587820]

>>8582765
To be fair, ever since the release of TP people have been bitching for an open world Zelda in the same vein as the original and SS's linearity made that demand louder.

[Anonymous No.8588698]

>>8587774
TP is more artistic though
Novelty =/= artistic vision

[Anonymous No.8589275]

>>8580884
Zelda has an infinite cycle of people hating/disliking a game and the mainstream opinion being very low until eventually 2 or 3 games down the line people say it's the best. Happens every time, except for BOTW since mainstream opinion of that game has always been high.

In a few years, people will suck Twilight Princess off and then after a while it'll be Skyward Sword, which sucks because Skyward Sword is a new level of shit compared to even the other less than average Zelda games.

[Anonymous No.8589405]

>>8589275
Definitely remember I had more fun playing WW than TP.

Why? Could be the bright colors. Could be the pacing and ease of exploring new islands.

Could be because I was younger the first time I played it...

[Anonymous No.8589429]

>>8589275
Oh no, he fell for the "Zelda bicycle" meme

[Anonymous No.8590683]

>>8589275
There is no Zelda cycle you retard. Zelda games were getting worse after the N64 which is why newer games were getting shit on.

[Anonymous No.8591490]

>>8581054
This. Why the fuck did it take so long before I could fuck a monster up?

[Anonymous No.8591501]

>>8581217
Haven't played WW. But I just YT'd the sailing music and it's pretty decent, so I guess that makes you homosex.