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>exists on the market for less than two years
>still has an incredible US library
how in the everloving christ did they pull that one off?

>> No.8554640

>>8554624
it was a good console, the problem was that Sega was already fucking dead before it even released

>> No.8554658

Powerful and easy to develop for.

>> No.8554678

>has more games than the N64 with a fraction of the lifespan
Nintensisters...

>> No.8554680

>>8554624
I wish it lasted longer, I really love the way games look on it

>> No.8554721

>>8554624
well if we take japan into account it was more like 'less than three years'

>> No.8554730

I wish I could enjoy the Dreamcast but literally nothing on the console does it for me except PSO which is on PC. I wanted to like Crazy Taxi but the physics are awful.

>> No.8554731

Dreamcast does, bitches

>> No.8554732

>>8554730
>the physics are awful.
I think that was the point, wasn't it?

>> No.8554740

They gave everything to succeed

Too bad the anti-piracy protections were a joke and doomed the console

>> No.8554781
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As >>8554740 said, this was their last chance. They pulled out all the stops and made sure the library was absolutely top tier and incredibly diverse. They couldn’t risk another Saturn and everyone at Sega, both divisions, knew that this was their final chance. It’s a cliche comparison but this was their Final Fantasy 1, one last make or break game/console that would determine their future, so they didn’t hold back and pumped out a tidal wave of high quality software and made the console the polar opposite of the Saturn. Cheap to make, easy to program for, etc. It’s genuinely quite amazing that in less than two years, they released double the N64’s library which was significantly more popular. It’s honestly baffling, but it’s incredibly admirable and it stings even more that it never caught on as it should have. C’est la vie

>> No.8554794

Best launch games ever. Strong lineup throughout. Wish Sega had pushed on for a few years.

It was a beautiful time to be a Sega fan... I remember buying crazy taxi and jet set radio. No body made games like that, who else would make a taxi driver game as fun and memorable.... Who else would make a game and the first screen would say graffiti is art

>> No.8554808

>>8554730
Try Maken X

>> No.8554815

It was the first time in my life where i saw you could chat with people online in a game via keyboard.
Comfy

>> No.8554823

>>8554815
not a big pc gamer then

>> No.8554824

>>8554808
A REAL Shin Megami Tensei game

>> No.8554857

>>8554823
PC had no games, only glorified Excel sheets. Fuck off.

>> No.8554861

>>8554857
PC had Sega games. There's literally a thread up anon.

>> No.8554864

>>8554857
salty

>> No.8555107

>>8554823
To be fair, computer games sucked until right around then (1999)

>> No.8555176

>>8554730
jet set radio is my favorite game of all time

>> No.8555227

>>8554857
Holy zoom zoom.

>> No.8555230

>>8554640
This. The Saturn killed the Dreamcast.

>> No.8555239

>>8554624
Sega knew the end was nigh, and put as much soul into it before time ran out

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long

>> No.8555241

>>8555227
Kinda like an oomerposter?

>> No.8555249

>>8555176
I like the Tony Hawk series better for the same sort of thing.

>> No.8555270

>>8554678
t. tranny obsessed so obsessed and so wrecked with N64 that xir brings it up randomly

>> No.8555273

>>8554730
Sonic Shuffle with a VMU is good. I also like Pen Pen TriIcelon, though maybe that's more of nostalgia.

>> No.8556423

>>8554730
play tony hawk 1 and 2. the best verisons of both of them, also mat hoffman 1 is decent if you like the tony hawk games.

>> No.8556760

>>8554624
What does the Dreamcast have that hasn't been ported to better consoles/PC?

>> No.8556772

>>8554857
Mmhm, this bait is exquisite

>> No.8556871

>>8555107
1996 was the best year for computer games.

>> No.8556896
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>>8556760
Amazing classics like... Illbleed.

>> No.8556932

>>8556896
You forgot Blue Stinger a true titan of survival ""horror"" a geme more macho than anyone thought possible.

>> No.8557138
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>>8555230
Outside of Japn, that is.
I vcan't imagine how weird it must've been for the Japanese gaming audience. They have the Saturn, that's considered fairly successful, but Sega just dumps out a successor and assums it'll replace it.

>> No.8557153

>>8554624
The Dreamcast had the luxury of timing. There were a lot of arcade games that were juuuust outside the capacity of the PS1 so the Dreamcast was a good option. Plus it got a bunch of upgraded ports of games that were on PS1/N64.

>> No.8557156

>>8556760
Metropolis Street Racer
Skies of Arcadia
Phantasy Star Online
Power Stone 2
Jet Set Radio
Crazy Taxi
Soulcalibur
Virtual On
Project Justice
Fighting Vipers 2
Space Channel 5
Bangai-O
Blue Stinger
Tennis 2k2
Sword of the Beserk

Before you start zooming at me, you said better consoles :^) and I gave you the benefit of the doubt for PC ports being better.

>> No.8557997

>>8557138
>I vcan't imagine how weird it must've been for the Japanese gaming audience. They have the Saturn, that's considered fairly successful, but Sega just dumps out a successor and assums it'll replace it.
It wasn't too atypical of a company to put out a new system within a half decade, especially during the 80s and 90s and in Japan where the cutting edge market was very competitive. Saturn's peak in Japan was between 94-96. Virtua Fighter 1 and 2 moved systems. They bet on VF3 and Dreamcast in 1998 to repeat that success.

>> No.8558313

Dreamcast is and was awful. Every other system shat on it for a reason.

>> No.8558561

panzer dragoon orta is the best dreamcast game and it was released on the xbox instead. sad!

>> No.8558667

>>8554730
>filtered by super casual arcade racer physics engine

>> No.8558674

>>8557156
>Skies of Arcadia
GameCube
>Phantasy Star Online
PC version was so much better
>Jet Set Radio
PC
>Crazy Taxi
PC

>> No.8558678

>>8558667
>filtered by super casual arcade racer physics engine
There's a difference between fake car physics that are still fun, like in the case of kart racers, and Crazy Taxi which feels like your vehicle is made of cardboard and weighs just as much.

>> No.8558685

>>8558674
The PC ports of both Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio are trash. Jet Set Radio one is notoriously bad. Skies of Arcadia on the Gamecube lost an entire treasure hunting minigame in the port.

>> No.8558694

>>8558685
>The PC ports of both Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio are trash. Jet Set Radio one is notoriously bad.
How so?

>Skies of Arcadia on the Gamecube lost an entire treasure hunting minigame in the port.
But has more content overall.

>> No.8558915

>>8558694
JSR runs on a shitty version of Dx9, which is already a shit DirectX version. Some systems literally can't launch the game from Steam and have to run the .exe in admin mode. It's missing music tracks and there's an unpatched save bug for going on a decade now (made even worse when you can't run it from Steam and have no save cloud backup). Load times are better though which is nice.

>> No.8559353

>>8554624
It had a ton of cheap and fast PC ports.

>> No.8559363

>>8558674
>>8558685
>>8558915
Just play JSR on PS3/360. I have JSR on XSX but you can't buy it from their store anymore at least on XSX, I don't know. I've owned the 360 version since the day it came out, they just let me install it to XSX.

>> No.8559574

>>8558674
>Jet Set Radio
>Crazy Taxi
LOL. And that's how I know you haven't actually played these games on PC! Bad ports!

>> No.8559585
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Imagine playing crazy taxi on anything but a Naomi.

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>>8559585
>peddles while standing

>> No.8559642

>>8558674
With the exception of PSO, which I haven't played, all of those titles are better on Dreamcast

>> No.8559653

>>8559585
I sure hope the seat was removed, because how the heck do you play a driving arcade machine standing up?

>> No.8559797

>>8559625
>>8559653
There was like a sitting bar but it's very much an upright cab. There were also crazy taxi cabs that used other older sit-down cabs.

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8559801

>>8559797

>> No.8559814

>>8559574
>>8559642
I beat JSR on PC. I had no issues with it. Crazy Taxi plays the same too but nobody has mentioned how that one is worse.

>> No.8559945

>>8559801
who called the Ghostbusters?

>> No.8559985

>>8554740
>>8554781
Piracy didn't kill Dreamcast and that's a myth pushed by big corpo cucks to make you feel bad for doing the morally right thing when a company tries to fuck over your consumer rights. What killed the Dreamcast was the constant infighting and miscommunication between SoJ and SoA causing them to blow tons of money and lose faith in both their customers and various retail outlets. Now take EA's cock out of your mouth or go back to /v/ with all the other corporate ass lickers. Mmmmm you like big daddy Sony's cock huh baby? Yeeeaaahhh buy the new Hitman and take that always online for progression up the ass like the slut you are babe oh god I'm so hot right now mmm time to push a new DRM down your throat yeeeaaahhhhhh suck it bitch

>> No.8560226

I was thinking of getting into the dreamcast. I'm sure this gets asked a lot, but what are some good games for this thing? I like all genres and styles, just no Sonic garbage please.

>> No.8560229

>>8560226
Sonic

>> No.8560234

>>8560226
Sonic 2

>> No.8560314

>>8560226
Sonic 3

>> No.8560325

>>8560229
>>8560234
>>8560314
Kys plushie fucker

>> No.8560332

>>8560226
>>8560325
jet set radio is my favorite game of all time

>> No.8560398

>>8560226
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Shenmue 1 and 2
Code Veronica (end game is atrocious though so be weary)
Jet Set Radio
D2
Street Fighter 3
Cannon Spike
Maken X
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Sega Bass Fishing (genuinely the best fishing game, maybe even the best sports game, ever made)
Crazy Taxi
Skies of Arcadia
JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure (don’t let the hype for the series fool you, this is a quality fighter)
Metropolis Street Racer
Grandia 2
Rez
Power Stone 2
Typing of the Dead
Soulcalibur
Hydro Thunder
Sword of the Berserker: Guts’ Rage
Debatably the best version of Rayman 2
Ikaruga
If you’re down with reading a load of Japanese, Segagaga
Sonic Adventure 1 and 2

>> No.8560407

>>8560226
Sakura Wars 3 and 4 are good games if you can put up with Japanese only

>> No.8560408
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crazy taxi 2 is better than 1 and has a better soundtrack
LAY AWAKE
I DON'T GIVE A SHIT
IF I EVEN EVER WAKE UP IN THE MORNING

>> No.8560438

>>8560332
>>8560398
>>8560407
Cheers

>> No.8560458

>>8555270
t. tranny

>> No.8560507

>>8560226
Blue Stinger

>> No.8560528
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>>8560398
You forgot my 2nd favorite game, ever.

>Shenmue 2
This was on DC?

>> No.8560590

>>8560528
I considered Bangai-O but it’s pretty love or hate and has some quirks typical of Treasure. Didn’t want to jump the gun, plus I haven’t even played it. Shenmue 2 was DC in Japan and Europe but Xbox only in the west. Fun fact: the European release of Shenmue 2 was entirely in Japanese. No dub in sight

>> No.8560620

>>8560226
Sonic Adventure 2 is the peak of video games.

>> No.8560846

>>8554624
>less than two years
Released late 1999 - bear in mind there was a big import scene and huge appetite for Dreamcast all through 1999 and late 98 , so if you were into games and going to game shops etc you probably played one before late 99 - and was available for normal retail until mid 2002 and a fair representation on the 2nd hand market til 2003 and even into early 04.

I'd say it was on the market for a good 3 full years. At least

>> No.8560860

>>8560590
I'm not the Treasure maniac, and that game is the only Treasure game I like, but it's a lot of wacky fun and you get to blow up tons of stuff!

>Fun fact: the European release of Shenmue 2 was entirely in Japanese. No dub in sight
As it should be!

>> No.8561032

>>8560620
If you are a sperg, maybe.

>> No.8561337

>>8554624
The console was designed to be a hit and it was. Sega was just in the shitter, financially. I still think had they given it only one more year it would have turned a profit and sega would have been ok.

>> No.8561406

>>8556871
Explain

>> No.8561408

>>8558674
>>8559642
PSO is best on Gamecube

>> No.8561425

>>8559363
You can still buy it, it's just not listed on the store on Xbox for some reason. Probably because they don't give a shit. Still backwards compatible. https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Jet-Set-Radio/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258411247

>> No.8561428

>>8560620
Based and redpilled
>>8561032
Cringe and bluepilled.

>> No.8561489 [DELETED] 

>>8560846
>I'd say it was on the market for a good 3 full years. At least
Then you would definitely be lying.

>> No.8561726

>>8561428
Ok Chris

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>>8561406