>In Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny, Blood (or Gibs) will give the player one health point if they is at 11 health or under. SOVL How can Doom even compete??

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Anonymous Sun Jan 23 16:16:23 2022 No.8552375 [Reply] [Original]

>In Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny, Blood (or Gibs) will give the player one health point if they is at 11 health or under.
SOVL
How can Doom even compete??

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 23 16:18:35 2022 No.8552385 >>8552375 Those were only specific "item" class gibs/blood on the floor though, not random corpses you killed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 23 16:22:15 2022 No.8552393 >>8552375 >if they is

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 23 20:36:13 2022 No.8553221 Wolf3D is so fucking fun. Repetitive? Yea. Headach inducing? You bet your ass. Suspenseful? AIIIIE!! It's a outdated game fhat I shouldn't like, but do. The Gustavos can be scary if you're not expecting them around a corner.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 23 20:47:15 2022 No.8553275 >>8553221 >Gustavos Shutzstaffel

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 23 22:09:50 2022 No.8553565 >>8552375 esl

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 23 22:17:59 2022 No.8553592 >>8553275 Gestapo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 23 22:31:35 2022 No.8553618 >>8552393 Shiiiieeet

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 23 22:33:06 2022 No.8553624 We need more cannibal protagonists in games

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 23 23:38:04 2022 No.8553809 >>8552375 Why are there three keys? What is this?

>>	P. Sevenleaf Mon Jan 24 00:47:36 2022 No.8553964 >>8553809 Probably a source port.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 24 00:49:54 2022 No.8553971 >>8552393 WHA DA HEYYOOLLL

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 24 02:47:49 2022 No.8554226 >>8552393 probably changed he to they because gender neutral autism

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 24 04:36:57 2022 No.8554417 >>8552393 if they is n shieeet bix nood ooga booga

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 24 04:38:54 2022 No.8554419 File: 175 KB, 800x585, 1380620330140.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8552393

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 24 05:03:54 2022 No.8554461 Cannibalism confirmed! But hey that's just a theory, a gay theory.

Anonymous Mon Jan 24 17:34:15 2022 No.8556470

>>8553221
It's simple, but it Just Werks, like some older arcade classics. Doom has more depth, and is better, but Wolfenstein 3D has that cartoony aesthetic and the treasure hunting, with a score counter, and it just sets it all apart.

I won't turn down a burger just because steak is better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 24 19:15:19 2022 No.8556789 File: 14 KB, 289x292, fec.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8552393 ayo holup

Anonymous Tue Jan 25 01:34:15 2022 No.8557849
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>>8553221
look i am very late to the party of Wolfenstein 3D but to say the game is outdated is not true, simple doesn't equal outdated, i played the whole Wolfenstein series a while ago for the first time, Wolf 3D is the best in the series with RTCW begin the second best one, i mean ffs i finished the game about 4 times already which is more than any other shooter besides doom, i remember people saying Wolfenstein 3D was obsolete because of Doom and i listened to them but i wish i didn't.

Anonymous Tue Jan 25 02:01:24 2022 No.8557908
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Wolfenstein 3D is a steaming pile of garbage of a sequel that destroyed the greatness of the original stealth games. It's much dumber, much more repetitive, and much less suspenseful. Fuck john carmHACK and fuck romero.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 25 02:02:18 2022 No.8557913 >>8557908 Ok auster

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 25 02:22:54 2022 No.8557970 File: 8 KB, 301x167, index.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8554226 >gender autism 100% male.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 25 02:27:15 2022 No.8557983 >>8553592 >GOOSTAFFA MY HYMEN

Anonymous Tue Jan 25 04:46:13 2022 No.8558273
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>>8557849
>Wolf 3D is the best in the series with RTCW begin the second best one
Interesting opinion. Not one I agree with, but I respect it. What lead you to that opinion?

>i remember people saying Wolfenstein 3D was obsolete because of Doom
It's easy to say that because Doom has so much more depth and so much more content, but again, I'm not gonna turn down a nice hamburger just because steak exists. It's still a fun enough game, and it has its own style that makes it feel very different.
>inb4 >food analogies

>and i listened to them but i wish i didn't
Well, now you know. I personally did not care for the Return To Danger expansions at all, but you shouldn't listen to me, give them a try themselves.

Returning to a previous point about fan content, though the scene isn't quite as big as Doom's, Wolfenstein 3D's mod scene is still very much there, and is still ticking away, making neat things coming up on THIRTY years in less than four months time. Games which are plain bad and boring don't enjoy that kind of sustained attention.

One of my favorite mods is Totenkopf SDL Edition, lots of attention to detail, nice enemy and weapon design too, and really remarkably atmospheric for a game which restrict itself to 90 degree increment block corridors and rooms for its level design.
You may also enjoy Rise Of The Triad, which started development as Wolfenstein 3D's sequel, but changed due to iD changing their minds, but letting Apogee retool it to something else. Got quite overshadowed by Doom at the time, but it's fun in its own weird way, and about 10 times as arcade-like as Wolfenstein 3D.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 25 04:47:56 2022 No.8558275 >>8557913 I don't think he could afford an Apple II computer in his childhood. >>8557983 Almost spat my fucking drink.

Anonymous Tue Jan 25 07:55:00 2022 No.8558574

>>8558273
I cant wait for ROTT Remastered to release soon, I hate the DOS controls. Im not used to it at all and Im too busy to really put the time in to get used to them. Not saying the controls are bad, Im just a zoomer who is used to WASD controls. Dont understand why they the winrott devs dont bother fixing their source port.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 25 08:17:33 2022 No.8558612 >>8558574 >I cant wait for ROTT Remastered to release soon That already happened in 2012.

Anonymous Tue Jan 25 08:27:42 2022 No.8558638

>>8558612
No, he's talking about a modern port of the original game, not the remake. I'm also looking forward to it as well, because I would like some more control options and graphics options, and the current sourceports around, such as WinRottGL, is a turboturd.
The game deserves better.

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>>8553221
>Suspenseful? AIIIIE!!
Agreed, you can clear out a whole section of the level, but there will still be one or two enemies walking around somewhere, and you'll hear the doors trundling open around you, but never 100% sure where from. Enemy AI, while extremely basic, has infinite pathfinding. You can alert enemies at the other end of a level, and they'll never stop chasing after you. It's quite scary to hear doors opening all around you as enemies close in on you, knowing that all it takes is a couple shots to put you down. You have to keep your head on a swivel because you can be flanked by all directions. All enemies are different flavors of hitscan that can put you down in 2-3 shots, but you can still stunlock them by shooting them, and even dodge some of the damage by strafing quickly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 25 09:27:33 2022 No.8558730 >>8552375 mein leben...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 25 10:52:56 2022 No.8559051 >>8552375 >How can Doom even compete?? By being more fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 25 13:48:39 2022 No.8559635 >>8559051 [citation needed]

Anonymous Tue Jan 25 13:53:35 2022 No.8559650
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>>8558273
>Interesting opinion. Not one I agree with, but I respect it. What lead you to that opinion?
i can't put it in words but it's definitely the most enjoyable one in the series, RTCW was good and i appreciate that it continued with the old school design but i only finished it once so far, the new Wolfenstein games are one and done trash, couldn't stomach them for more than one playthrough, while with Wolfenstein 3d i find myself playing them every other month to completion, the game got a lot of soul that not even doom could replicate, it's an FPS in it's purest form, the bosses, enemies and their designs and quotes get stuck with you, the levels aren't as bad as people say they are, keep in mind i have zero nostalgia about it, i am about 30 years late to the game.
>I personally did not care for the Return To Danger expansions at all
i would recommend only playing spear of destiny if that's the case, return to danger and the ultimate challenge go a little heavy with secrets to progress through the levels.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 25 23:43:32 2022 No.8561416 bump

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 11:42:19 2022 No.8562665 >>8557849 No, you didn't. There are the MUSE games >>8557908

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 11:57:35 2022 No.8562716 >>8562665 No one cares

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 12:36:21 2022 No.8562843 >>8562716 >im an ignorant brainless retard and proud of it Okay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 13:44:29 2022 No.8562996 >>8562843 tell me why those games are worth playing. Better play Metal Gear for the MSX.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 14:22:29 2022 No.8563119 >>8562996 >optional stealth >can search bodies >grenades >resource management >missions >actually thinking and not just kill everything exit level repeat

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 14:43:57 2022 No.8563170 >>8563119 Nah it's too primitive to be enjoyable

Anonymous Wed Jan 26 19:52:57 2022 No.8564380

>>8563170
Metal Gear is more primitive and could be beaten by memorising the levels and repeating the same patterns all over again. Castle Wolfenstein and its sequel are more realistic than Metal Gear games, and while they're primitive compared to the likes of Thief, Hitman, Splinter Cell, and other modern stealth games, they were pretty more advanced than everything made before those 3. I bet you think it's primitive because "gwafix bad".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 19:59:18 2022 No.8564404 >>8563170 You can say that about 90% of the stuff posted on this board. You have to accept its quirks and flaws, especially considering its age. That’s just the rule with retro vidya.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 20:27:42 2022 No.8564486 >>8564380 Not really

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 20:29:01 2022 No.8564490 >>8564404 Yeah but Castle Wolfenstein it's just boring and totally outclassed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 22:36:36 2022 No.8564916 >>8564490 >muh opinion

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 26 23:22:19 2022 No.8565048 >>8564916 >muh cope

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:23:33 2022 No.8565365 >>8562665 i will play them just because i have played Wolfenstein 3d, they seem interesting, do they work on modern pcs? also how many games are they?

Anonymous Thu Jan 27 01:53:19 2022 No.8565448

>>8564490
Wolfenstein 3D is more boring desu. It's like a dungeon crawler, but dumbed down in every possible way. The gameplay gets stale in 15 minutes. Why play it when you could play gauntletlikes and diablolikes or literally any other FPS game? Into the Eagles Nest deserved a better spiritual sequel.

>>8565365
>do they work on modern pcs?
No, use an Apple II emulator, Vice 64, or DosBox. Apple II is the recommended version because that's the platform the game was developed for.
>how many games are they?
2. The sequel is an improvement from the first, it added a bunch of new mechanics, but both are different games with different objectives and you have to decide for yourself which one you like more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 27 18:09:28 2022 No.8567713 >>8565448 Because still sort of fun unlike Castle. Also mods.

Anonymous Fri Jan 28 02:27:56 2022 No.8569112
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>>8565448
Not them, but the DOS version looks slightly less ugly; and I like the sound of "does not flash the screen or squeal at you when you bump into walls".

Still hard to believe that someone's genuinely still mad at a 29-year-old game. Will have to add Into the Eagles Nest to my list, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 02:29:45 2022 No.8569119 File: 72 KB, 1099x611, kotaku.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If I wanted to be argumentative, I might call propping up the 2D games to disparage the 3D ones a "Kotaku-tier take".

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 16:45:27 2022 No.8571171 >>8569119 You would be right, it's contrarianism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 17:49:40 2022 No.8571354 >>8569119 Ignoring the history of video games and blind loyalty to a franchise? You're literally lower than kotaku.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 28 19:06:14 2022 No.8571587 >>8571354 I can't tell what you're accusing me of. I'm blindly loyal to the Wolfenstein franchise while simultaneously ignoring the games that established it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 07:01:37 2022 No.8573175 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 08:54:27 2022 No.8573359 >>8571587 The trademark of the old game expired in 1986. The franchise has been owned by id since Wolf3D, and that's the shit you're fanboying on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 29 10:36:45 2022 No.8573613 >>8573359 Yeah the games are better. Now cope. This is Wolf 3D thread btw so fuck off hipster.

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