Emulation Controllers

[Anonymous No.8547259]

Thinking of buying this bad boy in a few days, but wanted to ask you d00ds if there was any controllers you guys prefer for retro/emulation games that was better.

I like it mainly because of the focus on the D-Pad in it's placement and apparently it has good quality. (So I've read) I understand the main criticism of it's frankenstein like nature, but it's not enough to deter me. It's probably not the most ergonomical in the world, but as a huge fan of SNES/PS1 it'll feel nostalgic, while also new in my hands, I bet.

Any other quality emulation controllers I'm missing out on/not aware of? What's your favorite retro controller? Mine's probably the SNES.

[Anonymous No.8547267]

Here is their older model, which I hear is decent too. I worry the analogs are extremely uncomfortable though, which is why I'm opting for the Pro 2.

[Anonymous No.8547275]

>>8547267
I have one like this but it looks like a super famicom controller. The analogs aren't bad at all, played a bunch of psp games with it, never had any issues.

[Anonymous No.8547281]

literally just unboxed one of these tonight. the d pad sucks and citra didn't read it. back in the box it goes. fucking ridiculous - why can't I get a controller that just werks?

[Anonymous No.8547283]

>>8547259
I swear to God I can't come to this board without seeing 8bit do shilling. Janny do your fucking job and get rid of them.

[Anonymous No.8547284]

>>8547275
Yeah, their older ones with the Super Famicon design is better looking, but I think they're trying to distance themselves from looking "too Nintendo" due to legal reasons.

[Anonymous No.8547292]

>>8547283
Anon, I'm not advertising. I don't care what you buy.

What are some better options? Preferably an all in one type of controller. I know some dudes like to use the OG hardware for each system, but I would rather just have 1 that's okay at everything.

[Anonymous No.8547314]

Another I considered was the Stadia controller, oddly enough. I hadn't paid any attention to the Stadia whatsoever, but after checking out a bunch of reviews, a lot of people say the controller is fairly decent.

I definitely prefer the format with the D-pad above the left analog, for retro games. Otherwise, I'd probably just get an Xbox Elite and call it a day.

>>8547281
What sucked about it? People say it's similar to the SNES d-pad. I never used Citra since I have a hacked 3ds, but I'm sure there is settings somewhere you missed.

[Anonymous No.8547331]

Don't. Its a DS4 with more input delay and a worse dpad. I have both the pro and pro2. I dont use either over the ds4

[Anonymous No.8547338]

>>8547314
The other runner up on my mind was the Steelseries Stratus Duo. Curious if any of you guys have used these. I definitely prefer clicky buttons, but only if its silent otherwise I'll take "mushy"

>>8547331
I had been using a Dualshock 3 up until recently and my biggest issue with going Sony is having to run third party programs to get my PC to recognize it. Are Dualshock 4/5 an improvement over 3? I've no experience with 4/5.

Which is better between DS4 or 5?

[Anonymous No.8547340]

>>8547259
Hori controllers are great for people who actually play games. 8bitdo is great if you're a Redditor who wants to show a picture of something looking kinda retro.

[Anonymous No.8547352]

>>8547338
you dont need 3rd party driver for the dualshock 4 if you are using windows 10 and 11 but i use a driver anyway since it fixed the issue i had with the pc port of RE2 1998.

[Anonymous No.8547359]

>>8547340
Is there any specific model you recommend? I don't know jack shit about controllers really, but I have heard of that brand and know they're quality.

I checked them out briefly and the only controller I saw that has the D-Pad/analog layout I like is this one - https://stores.horiusa.com/wired-mini-gamepad-black/

Which looks fairly uncomfortable. I'm probably retarded though, is there another I'm missing?

>>8547352
Oh, that's awesome. I assume this applies to DS5 as well? I might seriously consider a Dualshock then. I was just so used to needing a program for DS3, I just assumed DS4/5 would need it as well. I'll have to see which people prefer more.

[Anonymous No.8547449]

I'm actually completely done with 3rd party and wireless controllers alike. Sick of sticks that are the cheapest they can get away with and don't actually register slight movement, only mid-to-far movement, because they know most peasants don't notice (or at least don't understand why their game doesn't feel as good as it should). Sick of hiccups every hour of play or so. Sick of having all these permanent desktop edifices that need charging. No more logitech, no more 8bitdo, no more powerA, they might as well all be Madcatz to me.

[Anonymous No.8547462]

>>8547259
If budget is constrained, just get the Switch pro, much better battery life and you're sure that it works everywhere. People shit on its analog/d-pad but then they're comparing it to xbox elite and ds5 which are on their own tier when it comes go controller.
What I hate the most about 3rd party controllers are sometimes they're not recognized by software and sometimes even windows itself depending on the circumstance

[Anonymous No.8547886]

>>8547267
I tried this one. The dpad was messed up and wouldn't register left presses unless you applied pressure a particular way. I was able to adapt to that but then after about a year of owning it, reasonably heavy use, the rubber cap on the face buttons tore and B started sticking. My real SNES controller took much longer to get to that point, and I got it used. Didn't bother to fix the 8bitdo, just switched to DS4 and never looked back.

[Anonymous No.8547890]

Dpad is horrible which is a no go for retro gaming. It's fine for modern gaming though...I'd say just get a RetroBit Sega Saturn controller. It's like 20 bucks.

[Anonymous No.8548332]

>>8547281
>the d pad sucks
How? Is it the diagonals? You might have more luck with the following: PS4 Controller, PS5 controller, or a Stadia controller. (the Stadia controller's D-Pad is clicky.) Hell, you might prefer the Xbox Series controller D-Pad at this rate. If you really want to go out of your way you could get a Wii Classic Controller Pro but since you need AA batteries and a Wii Remote to use it, I don't recommend this option unless you have zero issue buying a bunch of AA batteries and stocking up. (it's really not worth it when the PS4 controller is just as good as anything.)

[Anonymous No.8549141]

>>8548332
>>8547281
yes the diagonals. tried playing megaman x5 and i could feel its nearly unseating itself every time i tried to dash jump. and yes i prefer my ps4 controller except the spaces between make it hard to slide around. also it sometimes double inputs in mgba and straight up doesnt work in no$gba. i dont fucking get it man.

[Anonymous No.8549152]

2D: Sega Saturn controller
3D and all-around: Current PlayStation/Xbox controller
Fightan: Arcade Stick

[Anonymous No.8549170]

>>8547259
Dualshock, no competition.

[Anonymous No.8549171]

just use a DS4, you silly bastards.

[Anonymous No.8549182]

>>8547259
Dualsense.

>>8549171
No point in the DS4 anymore when the DS is better in every way.

[Anonymous No.8549185]

My only problem with 8bitdos is the dpads are always tight as a motherfucker and you gotta break em in.

[Anonymous No.8549531]

This lasted me multiple years and its good but mine has finally had a couple buttons go mushy and I'm looking to replace it. 8bitdo seems like a good option but just as many people say it isn't so I'm so damn confused, probably just gonna get another Fighting Commander.

>>8549171
People constantly say this, but it doesn't have a fucking wire

[Anonymous No.8549638]

>>8549531
I act6 just bought a DS4 to use as a wired controller and it's working well. My PC doesn't support bluetooth and I don't like wireless anything.

[Anonymous No.8549757]

>>8547259
I already own a xbone controller, but with retro gaming having the left thumb focus on the d-pad seemed better

thought about buying the pro2, but then I chose the ds5
dunno if I made a bad choice since I can't compare
ergonomic wise the ds5 seemed more fitting

[Anonymous No.8549924]

This is what i use for emulators and im happy with it.
Its the powerA spectra.
The analongs control better than everything else i have tried.
Which was just a ps3 controller and some other shitty controller.(gamesir)

[Anonymous No.8549948]

My daily driver is a Wii u pro controller. Best Nintendo controller ever.... Downsides.... Input lag is higher than ds4 and 8bitdo but you won't notice on anything other than fighters

[Anonymous No.8549949]

>>8549924
looks goofy

[Anonymous No.8549994]

>>8549949
Because i put special pads on it .
The purple pads dont come with it.

[Anonymous No.8550330]

>>8547462
>>8547886

OP here. Thanks for the advice guys, I didn't know people had major issues with the quality. I'm leaning Dualshock 5 now.

>>8549171
Is DS4 better than 5? I'm still trying to get some feedback on this.

>>8549757
Yeah, this is why I made the thread. I was gonna go with 8bitdo pro 2, but now I'm thinking DS5 (unless someone can make a case for DS4 being better)

it seems like a lot of people love the DS5

>>8549531
Those fighting controllers do look dope as far as d-pad placement and ergonomics/aesthetics, but i worry the R buttons being on the front will throw me off big time.
>>8549948
I actually really love this controller a lot, it's shape in particular I find super ergonomic. I didn't want to buy some $20 knockoff though which is all I can find new and I wasn't super thrilled about paying new prices for a used Nintendo branded controller.

I believe it has the same d-pad as the 3DS which I find very soso and middling. Not bad, not great.

[Anonymous No.8550601]

>>8550330
>but i worry the R buttons being on the front will throw me off big time.
It has regular shoulder buttons too

>>8549638
>I act6 just bought a DS4 to use as a wired controller and it's working well
What version of it is wired?

[Anonymous No.8550608]

>>8550601
>What version of it is wired?
the version where you use the USB cable...?

>>8549182
the dualsense is significantly less comfortable and more homosexual.

[Anonymous No.8550610]

>>8549948
Totally agree, but yeah the input lag is horrendous and the thumb-sticks are so bad they're useless on anything other than WiiU games. I wish we could over clock it to be as responsive as the DS4.

[Anonymous No.8550616]

>>8550601
>What version of it is wired?
all of them,you just plug the cable in.

[Anonymous No.8550798]

>>8547281
Thats more likely your phone or pc doing that but ya there's probably a controller that works too

[Anonymous No.8550906]

>>8550616
>>8550608
I'm not seeing anything that specifies that it comes with a USB cable

[Anonymous No.8550975]

>>8550906
It's compatible with any microusb. I have a few laying around, it not coming with one wasn't an issue here (probably will be in a few years when they're phased out).

[Anonymous No.8551000]

>>8550906
how the fuck do you think it charges? hope and prayers?

[Anonymous No.8551001]

>>8547259
I bought one and honestly it really doesnt have any benefit over a Dualshock/Dualsense controller. Its neat to have for the aesthetics at least.

[Anonymous No.8551058]

>>8547267
the analogs are comfortable (dog ears aren't necessary for analogue stick controllers and not even more comfortable a lot of the time even though they've become the 'standard') however the dpad could be better.

[Anonymous No.8551070]

I have a Pro 2, it's sick. Better than my PS4 and 360 controllers. The analog sticks feel perfectly fine to me.
I use it for Tekken personally because of how nice the D-pad is.

[Anonymous No.8551078]

Does anyone know if raphnet adapters work on win XP?

[Anonymous No.8551080]

>>8547359
That hori pad fucking BLOWS

[Anonymous No.8551335]

>>8547259
I had one and ended up returning it because I didn't like ergonomics. It would would be better if the handles flared out diagonally like modern Xbox controllers rather than pointing straight down. Dpad was nice though.

[Anonymous No.8551396]

>>8550975
I've had the microusb port on a DS4 wear out, now I only charge them through the bottom port.

[Anonymous No.8551434]

>>8550608
>the dualsense is significantly less comfortable and more homosexual.
Maybe if you have small hands
DS feels much better than DS4 for me

[Anonymous No.8551439]

>>8547259
>ctrl+f
>latency
>0 results
Isn't latency really a problem to people who buy controllers for /vr/? Meanwhile people cry about half a frame of latency for emulation (or used to, when emulation was higher latency than original hardware, now it's the other way around) or monitors?

[Anonymous No.8551440]

>>8551439
This isn't /g/, people don't know that shit

[Anonymous No.8551443]

>>8551440
I guess. Still weird that it's such a heated argument but ignored when it comes to controllers. Both for emulation or real hardware.

[Anonymous No.8551708]

Fyi

Input lag

Overclock your dual sense to 8k (YouTube it)
Sub 2ms response

Ds4 Bluetooth is 3ms
Normal dual sense normally has worse lag than a ds4

Xbox one 6.7 ms

8bitdo pro 2 10 ms ( soulful perfection)


Switch pro 19 ms (shit controller and shit response as expected from cheaptendo)

Wii u pro 35ms (great controller.... Lag bad. (I personally use a high powered usb Bluetooth and it doesn't feel that bad honestly)

In other words. If you buy ps or Xbox you will be fine.

[Anonymous No.8551723]

>>8547281
Dpad is identical to a SNES controller zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.8551735]

>>8547267
I have this one its good for retro. I rarely use the analogs but they work fine

[Anonymous No.8551738]

>>8549171
DS4 has a horeshit Dpad
fuck off

[Anonymous No.8551748]

If you wait a bit hopefully we'll see pic-related this year. It has pressure sensitive buttons and is wireless so it's probably the ultimate emulation controller.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1247448559/ps1-and-ps2-wireless-playstation-controller-next-gen

[Anonymous No.8551753]

>>8551000
hes probably retarded.

[Anonymous No.8551830]

>>8551708
>Overclock your dual sense to 8k (YouTube it)
>Sub 2ms response
The DualSense over Bluetooth is already 1ms at 1k Hz at stock, what are you talking about?

>Ds4 Bluetooth is 3ms
>Normal dual sense normally has worse lag than a ds4
DS4 and DualSense are literally exactly the same in latency, both wired and wireless. There's no difference.

>Xbox one 6.7 ms
Xbox, any of them, is 8ms.

What was this post? Bait? Trolling? Retardation?

[Anonymous No.8552959]

>>8551070
Looks like you got fluid on the d pad

[Anonymous No.8553056]

>>8547259
Personally I've never had any issue with the Dpad on my 8bitdo pad which seems to be thing everyone likes about them the least. Maybe my standards are low and I'm just glad it's better than the absolutely atrocious one on the Switch Pro controller. I want to warn you though OP one of the face buttons did start sticking which is a pretty obnoxious problem for a controller to have.

[Anonymous No.8553156]

>>8551748
>>8551748
>Wireless

Pass, Zoomie.

Also fuck faggot jannies.

[Anonymous No.8553714]

Forever waiting...

[Anonymous No.8553758]

The D-Pad is a little stiff but I'm liking this one a lot.
There's a button to switch between left stick and dpad on the fly which is nice.

[Anonymous No.8553767]

>>8550608

[Anonymous No.8553769]

I use a dualsense controller avec using Xbox controllers for more than a decade. Fully satisfied with it.
Drivers available on every os , D-Pad feels nice, joysticks and triggers also. The touchpad is definitely an improvement over the xbox controller to navigate when l'm sitting on the couch.
Only downside is I don't have any PS5 available to update the controller firmware and it's impossible to do it directly on the computer so the battery is a bit meh, I heard it's something they greatly improved

[Anonymous No.8553773]

>>8547259
>>8549531
8bitdo shill their shit all over the internet. It's most obvious on YouTube.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/9mPK29SJjqd44kY_u2I0bA/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/L1zTCHaD_DT4zSOMs0HXoQ/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/od5SG0ku-geJTuRqcyDrCg/

The build quality is shit. Retrobit are the same but they shill way less.

[Anonymous No.8553774]

>>8553758
Owned this for 6 years, awful stick deadzones that I only realized after starting on something else. The deadzones are square, on the round sticks. That literally means being unable to sneak in diagonal directions in some games, because at the corners of the square, it cannot register input until you're out of the "walk" input range of the game. You don't understand how bad you have it until you switch away, I didn't.

[Anonymous No.8553779]

>>8553774
What'd you switch to? I've only used this to play SNES games so far so haven't noticed.

[Anonymous No.8553785]

>>8553767
Mac Demarco fans hate music and he's the Pepe the Frog of indie, nothing more than a played out meme.

[Anonymous No.8553789]

>>8553779
For a while a Gamecube with adapter, recently went from an Xbone knockoff (worst yet but it was a knockoff after all) to DS4 now. I typically disliked the Sony D-Pads but have found the DS4's to be fine so far, and the stick is soft and registers input in 100% of movement range, like the Gamecube's, so if it lasts I'll probably keep it for a long time.

[Anonymous No.8553797]

>>8551830
Just YouTube dual sense overclock

Xbox 1 lag is between 6-7 ms

Ds4 is has lower lag than dual sense

[Anonymous No.8553801]

>>8553789
(to be clear none of these broke, I'm not abusing my hardware, the GCN pad is just inconvenient for non-cube games)

[Anonymous No.8553849]

>>8553773
8BitDooDoo and Retroshit should just be ignored when they're recommended.
The binder reinforcement "mod" for the SN30 d-pads is an ok fix but fuck how can it be That hard to make a good, long-lasting d-pad?? Fucking Retroshit Saturn controllers Still have d-pad problems regardless of what people say and I'm tired of people recommending them cause the originals are so good.

[Anonymous No.8553881]

I might be too late for you OP, but I have that controller and it's been randomly disconnecting from my PC, even when connected by a wire.

[Anonymous No.8553895]

>>8547259
>>8547267
I remember when I got meme'd into buying 8bitdo controllers

[Anonymous No.8553907]

>>8551070
don't listen to this guy, look at his horrible taste in keyboards

oof

[Anonymous No.8554030]

been using a series x controller for about 6 months now, works perfectly so far. only complaint I guess is that the diagonals on the dpad feel awkward until you get used to it

[Anonymous No.8554075]

>>8551070
oh my god i'ts a girl

[Anonymous No.8554079]

>>8551058
Handles (which is what normal people call them) might not be necessary, but they make the experience a whole hell of a lot more comfortable.
It's the reason I prefer the Classic Pro over my regular Classic despite build quality taking an obvious hit.

[Anonymous No.8554172]

>>8554079
I much prefer this version too since it's more like the dual shock in how the buttons are arranged but has the Nintendo diamond layout for the letter buttons.

[Anonymous No.8554197]

>>8553881
Nah, not too late for me. I haven't bought anything yet. Probably going to go for the DualShock 5. There's actually a surprising amount of criticism for the 8-Bitdo now that I've actually took the time to look into it and ask people. Terrible wireless connection is a common complaint although this is the first I'm hearing about a terrible connection while wired.

[Anonymous No.8554281]

>>8547259
I bought one of these for my mom for Christmas. The build quality is outstanding. Generally had nothing to criticize about it except some compatibility issues. Ni No Kuni (cracked) didnt recognize the controller on windows 10. I patched it then it worked, but the patch caused the language to change to english - which my mom doesn't speak.

Overall I'd claim it's a great controller.

[Anonymous No.8554285]

>>8547259
Mine lasted a year before the d pad went unresponsive

[Anonymous No.8554328]

>>8554281
Can you help me get an Asian gf?

[Anonymous No.8554391]

>>8554281
>bought one for [relative]
>build quality is "outstanding" (owned product literally less than a month btw so I can't possibly confirm this but said it anyway for some reason)
>list dubious problem of a faulty copy of a game no one's ever played as only flaw and state that you solved it to "sound realistic"
>right after other complaints of connections giving out
Does this read like a falsified star rating review to anyone else? Are we seriously being advertised to by company employees?

[Anonymous No.8554442]

I've heard the modern console controllers had some issues. Is DualSense or Xbox Series pad better?

[Anonymous No.8554462]

>>8554079
handles are make or break, they can make controllers less comfortable
I found the unhandled controllers like the Wii pro, 8bitdo classic more comfortable than the newer xbox or classic playstation controller but the dualshock 4 and switch pro are more comfortable, however the DS4 dpad itself are too close to the edge, along with the buttons and the Switch dpad is in the wrong place.

[Anonymous No.8554667]

>>8553797
Post source.
Also yes, most videos from actually reputable channels that know their shit say exactly: >>8551830

[Anonymous No.8554670]

>>8551070
Girls play /vr/??

[Anonymous No.8554675]

>>8554442
DualShock / DualSense has had the better d-pad every generation compared to Xbox. This added with the higher latency makes it pretty bad for /vr/.
Both also don't have 6 face buttons, so they are still not universally good though. Closest would be OG Xbox controller, but the d-pad isn't much to write home about.

[Anonymous No.8554785]

every controller sucks, buy one of those straws paraplegics use to play tetris and breathe true control

[Anonymous No.8554810]

>>8554030
Same. It's my favorite controller since the Wii U gamepad.

[Anonymous No.8554831]

>>8554075
>>8554670
It's a dude. (XY)

[Anonymous No.8554840]

>>8554075
C’mon Anon, don’t fool yourself

[Anonymous No.8555020]

>>8554810
that is one fat hand

[Anonymous No.8555057]

>>8555020
I've gained quite a bit during the lockdowns.

[Anonymous No.8555174]

>>8555057
Ironically I've lost like 25 pounds since I've been living on nothing but coffee and yogurt.

[Anonymous No.8555184]

>>8555057
calories in, calories out

[Anonymous No.8555495]

>>8553714
How is the Saturn dpad for platformers?

[Anonymous No.8555568]

>>8554391
Or maybe it's just one guys experience and you're overthinking things, not everything is a conspiracy

[Anonymous No.8555916]

>>8555568
It wasn't an experience, it was a claim of build quality that couldn't have been concluded on in the usage period.

[Anonymous No.8556060]

>>8555916
Obviously I'm not able to conclude how this thing will fare long term. But you can tell it ain't cheap chinese garbage.

Also>>8555568 is right. You are oversensitive in this case, although I know where you're coming from. Tons of posts on /v/ come across as blatant shilling. I have no stake in 8bitdo, was just pleasantly surprised by how good it was. Had some bad experiences with other companies (Roccat mice for example)

[Anonymous No.8556950]

>>8549531
This is a good one

[Anonymous No.8557354]

>>8555020
Yeah, but the controllers are tiny now. It's harder to tell because most broadcast vidya gamers are s oy.

[Anonymous No.8557656]

>>8556060
Apologies anon. I'm leery of it because we did used to see actual advertiser plants on other boards, leading to no longer being able to discuss and tell apart good products from things being shilled. To me it just sounded a bit too much like it was a guy ticking boxes on what to say in a review website.

[Anonymous No.8557671]

>>8551708
We're overclocking our controllers now? What a future we live in.

[Anonymous No.8557676]

>>8555174
Based

[Anonymous No.8557686]

Personally, I prefer emulsion controllers

[Anonymous No.8558496]

>>8557671
Alternatively just choose 1000Hz from the drop down menu instead of having to disable security and install hacked USB drivers. Dunno why some people make things complicated on purpose.

[Anonymous No.8558656]

>>8558496
this is why DS4 (and I guess DS5) battery life is dire

[Anonymous No.8559047]

>>8558496
what dropdown menu?

[Anonymous No.8559143]

just got my ds5 controller
fairly disappointed in the d-pad (presses are mushy and when pressing down right up or similar combos the buttons slide around a lot)
which makes it pretty annoying since almost everything else is on point.

the only other complaint is that they went with built in battery again.
with xbone you can choose to get a bpack or use standard AA batteries.

anyway, if you want to primarily use the d-pad I'd say look elsewhere

[Anonymous No.8559265]

>>8559143
8bitdo controllers are honestly the only ones where I like the dpad, the Switch controller is half-decent for it but the dpad is weirdly placed so I don't like it.

Xbox controller dpads have gotten better but they feel very much designed for menus and not movement, and the dualshock controllers have always had mushy feeling dpads to me.

[Anonymous No.8559860]

>>8547281
what? i've been playing PaperJam with it recently and it works just fine.

that being said: don't fucking play Paper Jam, game sucks.
good riddance, alphadream.

[Anonymous No.8560462]

Might be a super normie answer, but for 3D games I'd suggest XBox Core Wireless or the Amazon Luna controller.

[Anonymous No.8560518]

>>8554810
thats a nice asus monitor anon. Good deep blacks, awesome colors and low glow. I upgraded to a 144hz lg gaming monitor and gave away my asus.
I miss that lttle nigga like you wouldn't beleive.

[Anonymous No.8560578]

>>8558656
DS has much better battery life than DS4
I've yet to run out of battery turning a session and sometimes they are 6-7 hours long, afterwards it goes back into the charging dock anyways, so I've yet to see how long it actually lasts
Meanwhile DS4 would go bye bye within a couple hours

[Anonymous No.8561672]

>>8547314
I got my stadia controller for free for being subscribed to youtube premium and it's my favorite controller to use with my PC. The clicky D-pad is pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.8562017]

>>8560578
Did they put in a bigger battery or actually optimise it's power usage?

[Anonymous No.8562023]

>>8547259
I have this, I like it, but the analogs feel super fucky twitchy and weird. Wouldnt really reccomend it for 3D games, maybe some fine tuning could fix it.

[Anonymous No.8562231]

I've had the SN30 Pro + for quite a while and honestly something better for me just doesn't actually exist. As in, it could be better and I know how, but there's nothing in the market for me. I would put a fucking M30 d-pad on it and clicky shoulder buttons. That would be the perfect controller for me right there. Analogs aren't amazing, but I played a lot of 3D shit with them, currently finishing the entire yakuza series (and honestly I prefer these face buttons for these games than the sticky xbox ones)

[Anonymous No.8564095]

Anyone know how well the Dualsense works on Windows? My Elite v2 is starting to drift and the buttons are wearing down and it's absolute hell taking it apart to take a look.
I tend to use standalone emulators and pirate shit so whatever steam does wouldn't help as I don't use steam.

[Anonymous No.8564116]

>>8551434
They're both worse than the ps2 version of the same controller from like 15 years earlier so who are we fooling here

[Anonymous No.8564176]

>>8550906
It's awful to use wired. The connection is so weak and flimsy, it constantly disconnects from the smallest movement. Like it's not designed to be used that way.

[Anonymous No.8564225]

>>8562017
Both, the DualSense even gets software updates that still improve its battery life and other aspects.

[Anonymous No.8564228]

>>8564116
DS1 - 3 are literally the same controller
DS4 is the same but with slightly better ergonomics
DS(5) improves on it further, plus making it more comfortable for Duke chads
I don't believe anyone who claims DS 3, 4 and DS(5), that the DS3 is the best fit, the DS(5) is simply sex for hands when you hold it

[Anonymous No.8564295]

>>8564176
>It's awful to use wired. The connection is so weak and flimsy, it constantly disconnects from the smallest movement. Like it's not designed to be used that way.
So, is there a single good wired controller aside from the Fighting Commander? It seems like there is not

[Anonymous No.8564347]

>>8551439
it's one of those made up tech issues like framerate

[Anonymous No.8564356]

>>8564176
What? The USB-C connector is super firm and tight fit. Are you thinking of MicroUSB on the DS4?

[Anonymous No.8564359]

>>8564347
Kek, nice one
Unironically there's retards on places like reddit who actually think like that

[Anonymous No.8564561]

>>8564295
I think the M30 is nicer to hold and has way better shoulder buttons and a comfy d-pad that's less stiff, but the Sega layout is ass for games expecting the usual diamond. The best compromise I can get is Sega A = SNES Y, B = B, C = A, and Z = X. It's not wired but the connector is sturdy enough to use exclusively wired, and the lag on the 2.4g one when wired is supposedly on par with Hori at 1ms. It's only worthwhile if you're able to easily remap the buttons on whatever you use it with.
Meanwhile with the Fighting Commander you can use basically any combination of buttons comfortably so it just werks. For the 20 bucks I spent on each I like them about evenly.

[Anonymous No.8564637]

>>8564228
They're all shit

[Anonymous No.8564661]

>>8564637
Controllers? True
Would be good if they just read out mind

[Anonymous No.8564860]

>>8564176
I'm using a shitty microUSB that doesn't even plug in all the way on my DS4 and it's working without issue.

[Anonymous No.8564876]

>>8553849
works on my system

[Anonymous No.8565349]

>>8564228
DS4 is the same but worse
>no wire
>useless touchpad

[Anonymous No.8565372]

>>8564295
I wish I knew. I guess I'll buy a Hori pad pro, the one modelled after an xbox controller with two analog sticks. Or I'll just buy the cheapest piece of shit I can find with a wire, because it's all shit anyways and will need to be replaced after a year.
The dualshock would be perfect if they didn't change it, it was perfect, then they added useless shit to it because they have to sell idiots new crap.

[Anonymous No.8565375]

god tier: 8bitdo (with revisions where the D-Pad is working properly)
high tier: original sega Mega Drive & Saturn pads
mid tier: nintendo pads, capcom soldier pad, ascii pads, retrobit pads
snoy tier: dualshock 4 & 5
especially shitty snoy tier: dualshock 3

[Anonymous No.8565678]

>>8564561
What I did for those games when I could only play them with the M30 was to use B, C, Y and Z, because hitting B and Y with the thumb is easier than A and X.

[Anonymous No.8565756]

>>8564228
>DS1 - 3 are literally the same
>t. person who can't distinguish anything but the plastic mold

Even PS1 controllers feel different from each other depending on the manufacturer, let alone on an inter-generational level.
The buttons feel dramatically different depending on the iteration. The DS2 for example has pressure sensitive buttons to call an example.

So you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.8565850]

8bitdo SN30 pro + didn't give me as much trouble as other people, really decent, although I did change the d-pad a few times to see what I would stick with between that and my original SNES controller with the contact pads and even though the 8bitdo d-pad itself (not the contact pads) feels stickier, maybe due to the plastic being used and how it's a little bit more slippery, I ended up liking it.

I have a DS1, DS3 and DS4. DS3 feels the most comfortable. I don't know why the DS1 I got has trouble with diagonals (it's one of those PSOne versions, so maybe it being newer meant it also got shittier), really harder to press than on the DS3. Also the buttons on the DS3 feel "loose" enough that I can lightly tap on them repeatedly without trouble. The DS4 d-pad is just uncomfortable. It's stiffer. It feels overall stiff except for the sticks and the battery life is laughable compared to any other controller, really.

Xbox 360 controller is garbage for anything that's not 3D and modern. Xbone controller is better in every way, but the d-pad is overrated. It's just really good for menus. It's precise, but 4 buttons with microswitches would be too. It's not that great for anything that might need diagonals and it's not even as soft as it should be. Surprised to find it's the only controller I have I had to fix stick drifting on. The buttons are also the stickiest, mashing on them is a pain and it sounds like you're chewing gum really loudly. But I wish every controller had those bumper buttons.

The Wii classic controller almost made me want this >>8554079. The texture on the d-pad is weird though and the sticks are just not good.

Also generally speaking, I do emulate and play older games a lot more than newer stuff, so I find that the sticks really should be at the bottom. It's easier to adapt to that, while I never found it easy to stretch my thumb to the center of the gamepad to use a d-pad. Which is maybe why I really don't dig the xbone d-pad that much.

[Anonymous No.8565928]

>>8547259
I got one last month (in black) and its okay, the dpad and buttons are a bit mushy and the ergonomics aren't the best in my opinion but overall its pretty good. I'm playing PS1 games on it and its fine for newer games as well. My favourite feature is the input switch, which gives you options if one input method doesn't work. Oh and it has also a gyro in it.

All these features for that price is pretty good. Also works perfectly with Bluetooth in GNU/Linux unlike the newer Xbox gamepad.

[Anonymous No.8566453]

>>8565756
We're only talking about the shape for ergonomics, anon. I thought it was pretty clean when "feeling when holding it" was the topic.

[Anonymous No.8566606]

>>8564356
What else would I be talking about shithead? The DS4 connects using a microusb.
See the tiny ass little plug? What else would I be talking about?

[Anonymous No.8566617]

>>8566606
correct pic

[Anonymous No.8566631]

>>8566606
Why would you use a DS4? Kinda pointless to talk about it.

[Anonymous No.8567646]

>>8547314
google was selling stadia controllers with chromecasts 4k for $20 last month.

[Anonymous No.8567694]

>>8565349
>no wire
I'm using it as a wired PC gamepad right now, on a computer with no bluetooth at all. Why does this disinfo keep coming up?

[Anonymous No.8567743]

>>8567646
They also had a $60 dollar deal few months back, where you could grab a game from them and it would come with the older chromecast + controller.
Just wait for a sale if you want one bois.

[Anonymous No.8568309]

>>8567694
The problem is that modern controllers have loose shitty small connectors and cables. This wasn't a problem with some older pads with the wires inside. The industry has expected us to just eat up the compromised controller design as if it represents "progress". When in fact, we have lost something. They took it from us, And most younger generations don't understand it.

[Anonymous No.8568480]

I had 8bitdo pro2 for a week and is near perfect.
I say 'near' because in the beginning the diagonal inputs would go off, but now I miss one in 20-30. So maybe is just my thumb adjusting to the new pad.
But the snes buffalo and fight commander are always perfect, so there must be something there.
I still may suggest pro2 for the custom buttons layout, trigger threshold, 2AA battery etc
Also dont dismiss rumble ihmo. Both fight commander and Buffalo are superior to pro2, but sometimes you need to rumble

[Anonymous No.8568669]

>>8547259
I really like the build of the SN30 Pro 2, but mine dies constantly and when the battery is low the Bluetooth lag lags my entire computer (windows issue, not specific to this controller).
I've had to switch back to my pro 1 for this reason, which I'd replaced because the A button pad broke, though I was able to fix it with a replacement part

[Anonymous No.8568687]

>>8568669
The A button on my Pro 1 sticks constantly now, how did you fix yours?

[Anonymous No.8568886]

Has anyone here compared playing /vr/ games with both the SeX and DS5 controllers, specifically? Any preference which is better? I like the ergonomics of the dualsense more, though the d-pad is kind of mushy. I’ve generally not been a fan of the Xbox controllers but the new d-pad looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.8568901]

>>8568309
This is the most boomer post ive read here - its specifically a problem with micro USB connectors which the Dualshock 4 uses. Every other modern controller ive tried like the Switch Pro and Dualsense use USB-C which has a stable connection just like a hardwired controller (i havent tried xbox controllers past the 360 but that was really stable too).

Theres nothing wrong with having more options.

[Anonymous No.8569019]

>>8568309
>controller literally does it all and supports 2 kinds of wired connection, more than the norm, and they're now versatile enough to use standard plugs everyone has 10 of
>acts like things are being taken away

[Anonymous No.8569062]

>>8554810
My man

[Anonymous No.8569082]

>>8554810
>Ape Escape
Catch those naughty monkeys before they get away anon what are you doing!?

[Anonymous No.8569172]

>>8568309
Modern controllers are like gen Z. Basically tranny controllers. I mean, they couldn't wait to sever the cord/wear a strap-on one. Stay boomer man.

[Anonymous No.8569179]

>>8568687
Called support, they sent me a new pad for it. Took the controller apart and replaced it

[Anonymous No.8569182]

>>8569019
Does it vibrate internally when you get a donation on Twatch?

[Anonymous No.8571347]

>>8568901
>Switch Pro
Can you prove it has a USB port?

[Anonymous No.8571824]

Not really an emulator controller question, but I recently got an everdrive for my N64 and the controllers I have right now have shitty joysticks. What would you guys recommend for third party controllers and/or joystick replacements? I tried the Hyperkin GameCube-style sticks from Amazon, but the deadzones are terrible

[Anonymous No.8572929]

So basically from reading this thread the conclusion is that there is not one single controller that is well built with a good d-pad, analog sticks without deadzones or drift, good button placement and minimal input lag...and that whatever you buy you're gonna regret because the buttons will go mushy or whatever. Why is it so difficult for a manufacturer to nail a game controller?

[Anonymous No.8572941]

>>8549948
The dpad on mine sucks, it will register a left/right if I press the down button at an angle. Battery life is absolutely insane though.

[Anonymous No.8573009]

>>8572929
Try Hori.

[Anonymous No.8573030]

>>8572929
I think the dualsense has the best d-pad and joysticks. Just get that one, anon.

[Anonymous No.8573109]

I got 8bitdo Pro for Ps1 games and don't have any real problems with it so far

>>8572929
There is no universal controller for everything so it's best to get multiple for various uses

[Anonymous No.8573127]

>>8547267
I got this for $10 because someone thought it was broken. All it needed was a firmware file added to it. Best $10 I ever spent

[Anonymous No.8573321]

>>8547259
DualSense.

[Anonymous No.8574501]

>>8553714
are there any good controllers with 6 front buttons and two analog sticks like this?

[Anonymous No.8574656]

>>8574501
Oh I am also interested in this, this would be excellent for emulating Genesis and N64 games if a nice high quality one existed.

[Anonymous No.8574880]

>>8549948
If this controller had wired support and gyro support it would be single best controller in history. Such a shame

[Anonymous No.8574904]

>>8574501

[Anonymous No.8574930]

>>8574501
Only six...

[Anonymous No.8574948]

>>8571824
Get a new OEM controller

[Anonymous No.8574953]

>>8574501

[Anonymous No.8574971]

>>8574501
Or this.

[Anonymous No.8575064]

>>8574930
You only need 5 letters on that keyboard.

[Anonymous No.8575142]

>>8574904
Anyone tried this? How is the dpad?

>>8574953
>>8574971
These both look like they'd feel like shit. Have you used them?

[Anonymous No.8575204]

>>8575142
D-pad is a bit stiff (for me) but very nice and no missed inputs or accidental presses. It's pretty much my go-to controller for the last 9 years or so, use it almost daily for hours and it just werks.
The only thing I'd change on it is having shorter sticks but that's just preference. If you're looking for a six-button with sticks then I'd say it's pretty much a must buy.
There's an anon on here that has like 5 of them and I mostly see praise for it.

[Anonymous No.8575212]

>>8575142
>>8575204
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot to mention this was for the Hori EX2 turbo pad.

[Anonymous No.8575219]

>>8575142
No, but six face buttons are rarer on newer controllers.

[Anonymous No.8575792]

>>8547259
I was just using cheap-ass knockoffs of the SNES and Gamecube controllers. They don't handle like a dream or anything, especially not the GCN knockoff with the squeaky buttons, but they get the job done. I have a Switch pro controller coming in that I can use on my laptop, too. I've never really given controllers much thought, but I'm digging how this pro controller looks. Not a bad price, either. Almost half of the Switch pro controller's.

[Anonymous No.8576525]

>>8555057
Eliminate all fat from your diet unless it comes from a fish. I had to do this for other reasons and all my extra weight flew off immediately even with 0 exercise. I did a calorie counting diet in the past, this also works but it was way harder and I had to suffer a lot of hunger.

[Anonymous No.8576637]

>>8555184
bullshit

[Anonymous No.8578172]

Saturn pad usb is a great controller, but I do prefer the SNES form factor overall.
I’ve tried the Series X pad but found the pad too aggressive and clicky.

[Anonymous No.8579965]

>>8573109
this
multiple are best

[Anonymous No.8582261]

Bump

[Anonymous No.8583140]

>>8547259
There are lots of great controllers, you just have to find ones that suit you and the game best. My favorite is the Sega Saturn pad.

>>8549531
Did the membranes inside tear? It was an issue when I used to overuse Ascii pads on Dreamcast for 3rd Strike.

[Anonymous No.8583274]

Frankly, I just like using a quality controller to emulate things, and if I can afford it then an accurate controller. Sure I'm not gonna need a Dreamcast controller for those games, or a Saturn 3D controller, but for GameCube and N64 I'd prefer to use one of those controllers

[Anonymous No.8583726]

>>8551070
can you tell me what verson of firmware you are using? I bought one mid december last year and it was okay, but it had some drift, I updated to 1.05 since then and it just randomly disconnects all the time. not sure if I should just return it or wait for 1.06

[Anonymous No.8583740]

>>8547259
I have the 8BitDo SN30 Pro+ and use it for my Switch and PC, had it since it released and have had 0 issues at all. I'm not sure what some people do to their controllers to fuck them up.

[Anonymous No.8583793]

I use a ps4 controller. It's setup fine for 2d and 3d games, which are the vast majority of what you will be playing. Plug in with USB and that's it. Works with everything.
If you want something like the extra buttons of the mega drive 2 controller, then ask yourself how many games are you gonna play that require more than the amount of buttons on a ps4 controller.
Ps4 controllers are around 50-60 bucks Australian nowadays. Which is cheap as fuck.

Remember kids. Before you go full autism for your wireless intellivision USB controller, just get the best option for everything

[Anonymous No.8584464]

>>8583793
>It's setup fine for 2d and 3d games, which are the vast majority of what you will be playing.
I play 4d games exclusively. What controller should I be using?

[Anonymous No.8584991]

>>8584464
qDot - Buttplug n Play...

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/uk/realistic-fps-game-controller/

[Anonymous No.8585629]

>>8547259
I wanna get one of these, can anyone confirm it's quality?
I know it has easily replaceable buttons and stick

[Anonymous No.8585760]

wired 360 controller for stick games
wired pokken controller for dpad games

[Anonymous No.8585992]

>>8585760
I never payed much attention to this one, what it's like having the ZL/ZR buttons on the front like that? Do you ever feel like they should've just stayed on the shoulders?
If you've tried the Hori fighting commander, how does it compare to that?

[Anonymous No.8586042]

>>8585760
I have a white pokken pad that I use for my mister. The only problem ive had with mine is the button labels wearing off. Its great if you have big hands.

[Anonymous No.8586078]

>>8547259
I desperately need more dualshock 3s but apparently all the ones on the market now are just fake chink crap
Fucking insane to me that the best controller with the best form factor and pressure sensitive buttons is now some unattainable rarity
Wish hyperkin would reproduce them like they did the duke

[Anonymous No.8586227]

>>8584464
Phase blaster for the Sega master system

[Anonymous No.8586273]

>>8548332
>PS4 Controller, PS5 controller,

Not D pads retard

[Anonymous No.8586451]

>>8586273
What controllers do you recommend that have d-pads anon?

[Anonymous No.8588026]

>>8585760
this

[Anonymous No.8588280]

>>8547259
Here we go, the daily 8bit-don't thread with their garbo build quality and their broken d-pads. You're a big company, buy some fucking ads. And stop using symmetrical sticks, you imbeciles. Also stop putting sticks on controllers without a handle, you're going to give someone CTS.

[Anonymous No.8588345]

>>8588280
I prefer symmetrical sticks, whether they're on top or on bottom but I agree with the rest of your post.

[Anonymous No.8588378]

I use DualSense, I find it most comfortable and like all the input options

>>8551708
Supposed to just do 1k Hz polling (which is 250 in the application, can confirm by checking the polling in DS4Windows). 8k (which is 1000 in the application) puts a big strain on your CPU and can cause issues with some games. The difference between 1k and 8k is quite literally less than half a ms (1/2000th of a second), they're both like right around 2ms (DS4 and DualSense

[Anonymous No.8588382]

>>8551070
>it's sick.
Nobody talks like this, this shill is fucking embarrassing to watch.

[Anonymous No.8588389]

>>8588345
>I prefer symmetrical sticks
Doesn't matter what you prefer, your thumbs should be resting comfortably on the left stick and right face buttons, symmetrical sticks force you to contort your hands for longer periods of time.

[Anonymous No.8588460]

>>8547267
I have owned 5 of these and only one has broken due to my kid throwing it whenever he loses. no problems with compatibility on any roms or pc games.

only problem is A/B and X/Y are reversed in Lego games for some reason

[Anonymous No.8588478]

>>8588389
I hardly play any games that need a stick, I usually use a Saturn controller to play games, and tbqh I dislike using sticks unless they're arcade sticks.
Also I mentioned sticks being on top so what you said doesn't make sense for the Wii U pro controller since the offset isn't great compared to other controllers and you can easily rest on d-pad or stick without any strain/stretching. I agree with you if the game requires mostly analog stick control but I have a Hori EX2 turbo for that, just because I prefer it doesn't mean I'm an autist refuses to use an asymmetrical layout.
I highly recommend you do stretches to prevent injuries, regardless of layout, I've seen a few videos on youtube that cover that if anyone wants to check them out.

[Anonymous No.8588503]

>>8588478
Your particular imaginary case scenario has no relevance to the basics of ergonomics.

[Anonymous No.8588571]

>>8588503
>>8588389
>>8588280
Ergonomics can be substantially subjective, setting aside the quality of these as products, there's inherently nothing wrong at all with symmetrical sticks. Your left thumb isn't going to be strained by what your right thumb is doing on a lightweight controller which is effectively evenly supported at all times.

There's a reason why both styles are prominent today, because both ultimately work just fine.

[Anonymous No.8588574]

>>8585760
does it have analogue shoulders at least?

[Anonymous No.8588885]

>>8588571
>Ergonomics can be substantially subjective
Not in this case, unless your thumbs have an unusual shape. Maybe it's just shit design and you're desperate to do damage control out of buyer's remorse.

[Anonymous No.8589126]

>>8588574
no they are 2 big shoulder buttons

[Anonymous No.8589219]

Maybe just try a retro controller with a raphnet usb adapter

[Anonymous No.8589402]

>>8589126
Bleh, welp, are they at least decent for pressing use? because the ones on the wii classic controller pro had dead zones, why nintendo never made analogue trigger/shoulder/bumpers/whatever ever again?

[Anonymous No.8589956]

Anyone know a controller that's equivalent to an xbox one / dualshock (any) but with several extra buttons on it that can be used for emulation? I use RetroArch a lot and want extra buttons for savestate save/load or rewind/fast-forward. I'm tired of having to keep my keyboard nearby any time I get cheesed in Tomb Raider.

[Anonymous No.8590128]

>>8589956
Only ones I know are hypothetical. lol

[Anonymous No.8590132]

>>8589956
Hori do some interesting designs.

CAPCHA: D0GWA

[Anonymous No.8590136]

>>8589956

[Anonymous No.8590137]

>>8589956
Or

[Anonymous No.8590139]

>>8589956
And

[Anonymous No.8590141]

>>8589956
>>8590132

[Anonymous No.8590143]

>>8589956
There are plenty.

[Anonymous No.8590162]

>>8589956
Xbox like.

[Anonymous No.8590164]

>>8589956
You did mean the flappy panels didn't you?

[Anonymous No.8590556]

>>8590136
>this isn't even my final form

[Anonymous No.8590579]

>>8588885
You're gonna have to explain in detail why symmetric analog stick placement is bad ergonomics, because i don't see any reason why. Works fine for dualshock.

Never bought an 8bitdo, btw

[Anonymous No.8590953]

>>8590164
>>8590143
>>8590139
>>8590137
>>8590136
These look absolutely retarded

I meant more face buttons, by start and select