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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>8535157

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

[Anonymous No.8546685]

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461
Current release
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18le6ho89YT_myg8CiUUk2mw1439zPyyJ/view

=== NEWS ===
[01-21] ROTT Remaster delayed to this year, now being published by Apogee
https://www.gamespress.com/en-US/Apogee-Entertainment-Publishing-Rise-of-the-Triad-Remastered-on-PC-Con

[01-18] Microsoft has acquired Activision Blizzard and now owns Heretic and Hexen, among others

[01-17] Laser Justice, a classic shmup inspired mod for Doom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=74458

[01-15] E[X]tended Mapedit for Blood released
https://twitter.com/BloodHispano/status/1482438772285489164

[01-14] RC1 of PRCP2 has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119628

[01-13] OCCULA.WAD, new slaughter mapset by bemused and tourniquet
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126833

[01-12] FutureShock32 back in development
>>8512626

[01-10] Func_msgboard announces a new jam. Theme: AI. Deadline, February 10th
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62137

[01-04] Doom It Yourself - looking for mappers (MBF21, color limits)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126692

[01-03] Shades of Azure - 12 short, blue maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126633

[01-02] Half-Life ray traced in development by the author of Serious Sam ray traced
https://youtu.be/SsteDE8h6jc

[01-02] Doom 2 from memory release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126634

[01-01] e2m1 remake
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126594-e2m1-deimos-anomaly-remake/

[01-01] Mechadon blog post about Supplice
https://mekworx.the-powerhouse.net/2021/12/31/this-is-a-post-about-supplice/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

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[Anonymous No.8546693]

[Anonymous No.8546740]

>>8546693
>no faggot
I am disappoint. Those are almost always memeworthy

[Anonymous No.8546975]

>>8546693
faggot
faggot
faggot
faggot

[Anonymous No.8546997]

Would the SSG have been as iconic or even strong if it was an OU shotgun instead?

[Anonymous No.8547028]

>>8546997
I wouldn't think so, it doesn't translate as well with the weapon perspective.

[Anonymous No.8547029]

What are some wads with a lot of verticality?
I just learned about Shotgun Jumping in Combined Arms, and I want to mess around with it for a while

[Anonymous No.8547030]

>>8547028
>it doesn't translate as well with the weapon perspective.

This is true. I agree with you.

[Anonymous No.8547053]

>>8546693
>darkside kill
dope
know what i'm naming my next map
>final rekkr
plutonia confirmed

[Anonymous No.8547058]

>>8547053
>>darkside kill
Wooow bugged map mechanics

[Anonymous No.8547068]

Do you guys have any games you switch to when you get burnt out on Doom for a bit? Obviously Doom is far and away the one with the most fan content but you gotta switch things up sometimes

[Anonymous No.8547076]

>>8547068
I like shmups. Got a hard touhou 7 1cc today, apparently that game's retro now. I've also been grinding away at dodonpachi daioujou for a 1-all. I'd love to make a wad out of that someday, because there's a need for more good shmup mods.
Outside of that, not really. There's some really distinct mods that make the game as fresh as it was when I first played it so it's hard for me to get bored for too long.

[Anonymous No.8547079]

>>8547068
I like sidescrolling platformers and Metroid style games.
Zelda is good too.

[Anonymous No.8547082]

>>8547068
I played Turok recently. It was okay.

[Anonymous No.8547087]

What are some of the best wads?

I'm relatively new to the community but am very familiar with the game as I played them as a kid, but a year or two ago I got back into classic doom.

Some I've already played:
Btsx 1&2
Plutonium 2
Going down
Revilution
Eviternity
Hell revealed 2

I just downloaded sunlust and I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle it kek. But we'll see.

[Anonymous No.8547089]

>>8547087
A little heads up for sunlust, ribbiks balances his maps around HMP, UV is for an extra challenge.

[Anonymous No.8547098]

>>8547068
For me, it's Might and Magic.

[Anonymous No.8547120]

>>8547087
>Hell Revealed 2
Well, you already played the best wad out there, but I can recommend Community Chest 1 (and 2, but it's slightly weaker imo) and 10 sectors - both had that sweet early 00-s feel to it.

[Anonymous No.8547128]

>>8547098
I will never understand how people can stomach games this ugly.

[Anonymous No.8547167]

>>8547128
You do realize you are on /vr/?

[Anonymous No.8547208]

>>8547128
Theres a big difference between primitive 3D and ugly 3D.

[Anonymous No.8547227]

>>8547089
Yeah I'm trying to pistol start everything and am on map 3 so far... UV is brutal. I can probably do it with a continuous play through but idk about pistol start haha.

[Anonymous No.8547228]

>>8547128
Who gives a fuck about graphics, you mong? Its gameplay holds up amazingly.

[Anonymous No.8547232]

>>8547120
My bad forgot to reply to you in the same post but I honestly liked btsx 1&2 the most so far, although hell revealed 2 was really good

[Anonymous No.8547245]

>>8547128

[Anonymous No.8547249]

[Anonymous No.8547253]

>>8547227
Continuous isn't a bad idea, the set is balanced around both pistol start and continuous. I'd also say that one of the endgame maps you won't be able to appreciate as much if you don't play it in a continuous run, because it has a pretty clever secret accounting for it.

[Anonymous No.8547254]

>>8547082
Does it have the Brain drill or is that not till turok 2? I just know stuff like turok is a title so theres more than one and the second one has big tiddy pale alien GF.

[Anonymous No.8547256]

>>8546693
dude weed

[Anonymous No.8547257]

>>8547068
I just binged all the PSX and 64 Doom levels and now I'm taking a break to play Pokemon for a while.

[Anonymous No.8547260]

>>8547082
>>webm
Looks pretty impressive.

Are there any Turok mods worth playing?

[Anonymous No.8547263]

>>8547128
Well, we got the next /vr/ banner.

[Anonymous No.8547298]

>>8547087
I only got into classic Doom a few months ago myself, but here are some other WADs I've enjoyed so far:
>Doom the Way id Did
>UAC Ultra
>2002 A Doom Odyssey
>Valiant
>No Rest for the Living

[Anonymous No.8547305]

>>8547260
>Are there any Turok mods worth playing?
Turok+ has been fun, that's where the double barrel shotgun is from.

[Anonymous No.8547309]

>>8547254
Yeah the brain drill thing is in the second, fun gun

[Anonymous No.8547348]

>>8547128

[Anonymous No.8547389]

>>8547068
Outside of Doom, it's mostly Souls and Metroid romhacks, for me. I'm looking forward to Elden Ring.

[Anonymous No.8547394]

>>8547389
>Metroid romhacks
More importantly X-FUSION FUCKING WHEN!?

[Anonymous No.8547413]

>>8547128
They hate you for you told the truth

[Anonymous No.8547414]

has anyone ever made hitler doom
like a slaughter megawad with 300,000 enemies that're all reskinned to look jewish in some way

[Anonymous No.8547452]

>>8546682
Doom 64 EX or Nightdive Port ?

[Anonymous No.8547545]

>>8547068
I like all kinds of games. 2D action platformers, other FPS's, occasionally RTS's or ImSims.

Doom is really the only retro game I consistently play on a regular basis though

[Anonymous No.8547672]

>>8547068
Right now back to ETS2

[Anonymous No.8547714]

>>8547068
Morrowind

[Anonymous No.8547779]

>>8547167
Retro does not mean ugly.
Doom has dated visuals sure but they're not ugly

[Anonymous No.8547790]

>>8547068
I was more of a Quake guy "recently" and at the moment I'm playing Hotline Miami. The game is fun, but I still have somewhat hard time getting use to controls due to how movement works. Feel like it would've been easier with a controller (don't have one).

[Anonymous No.8547797]

>>8547790
First or second one? With the first one you more-less just need to throw the mouse into the general direction of enemies. In the second game you actually need to aim and keep Shift pressed all the time.
But it did take me some time to get into HM, but then I loved it (the first one).

[Anonymous No.8547837]

>>8547260
There's a good bunch. Lots of weapon packs and enhancements.

Turok+ is a great way to replay the original game. You can use Turok 2 weapons in it. And mix and match your arsenal.

Anything by Behemoth Programmer is next level shit.

https://turoksanctum.com/category/turok-mods/turok1-mods/


Recommended -
https://turoksanctum.com/randomizer/
https://turoksanctum.com/mountain-of-the-sun/

[Anonymous No.8547842]

>>8546693
>plutonia better
Or "how to sum up the Doom mapping community in two words"

[Anonymous No.8547845]

>>8547779
>dated visuals
There's no "dated visuals". It's a game and it can look however it wants.

[Anonymous No.8547865]

>>8547845
Holy based.

[Anonymous No.8547879]

I decided to try out that Babel mod that was posted around here. I played through most of Doom 1.

If anything, this mod feels like what Doom should have always been. The pistol weapon isn't useless anymore, all the weapons have had a damage buff, and the enemies are more engaging to fight. The weapon swapping is absolutely perfect and makes the combat feel smooth and slick. I like the improved animations too.
I was really impressed with the title screen too. I didn't even know stuff like that was possible.
The recoil effect on the screen is annoying and I couldn't find a way to turn it off, but it helped to make the weapons feel more powerful so goal accomplished I guess.

Overall an 8/10 and and I will absolutely use this mod on a regular basis.

[Anonymous No.8547969]

in samsara, is there a limit to the chargeable damage of the bfg of the chex warrior?
i know about wasting ammo while charging a projectile but is the damage capped?

[Anonymous No.8547991]

How to make Doom render at 640x480 but output 1920x1080 with black bars or whatever on sides using Zandronum?

[Anonymous No.8548002]

How do I open the path to the rocket launcher in Tarnsman's Projectile Hell E1M9? I already got the rocket shotgun and all the keys, feels like I was supposed to already have the rocket launcher before the yellow card fight so I missed something and can't figure out what it was.

[Anonymous No.8548009]

>>8547879
>Babel mod
is this https://babel-mod.neocities.org/ or does a newer version exist?

[Anonymous No.8548021]

>>8547068
>what 're you waiting for, christmas?
The build engine games are amazing

[Anonymous No.8548031]

>>8547991
Fullscreen doesn't work?

[Anonymous No.8548047]

What is the worst fan-made gimmick Doom map and why is it a Mancubian Candidate?

[Anonymous No.8548054]

>>8547068
Been playing Highfleet, its an amazing little game.

[Anonymous No.8548058]

>>8548047
This is only the case for people too rustled by the ruse.

[Anonymous No.8548116]

>>8548009
That's where I got it, but there might be newer versions

[Anonymous No.8548118]

>>8548031
It does, but when I alt+tab my desktop is in 640x480

[Anonymous No.8548126]

>>8548047
t. Dario Casali

[Anonymous No.8548132]

>>8548009
Still the newest, but I think the issue with projectiles got fixed in a later GZDoom version.
>>8547879
It’s great how the shotguns are balanced.

[Anonymous No.8548137]

>>8548132
>issue with projectiles
i downloaded an old version of gzdoom just to be sure

[Anonymous No.8548161]

>>8548047
The best fan-made gimmick Doom map is run.wad by B.P.R.D.

[Anonymous No.8548226]

>>8548047
Whats so bad about Mancubian Candidate?

[Anonymous No.8548238]

>>8548226
People don't know how to trigger discipline.

[Anonymous No.8548239]

So how come Revenants can't go up stairs?

[Anonymous No.8548242]

>>8548047
Mancubian Candidate is great
Your take is colder than Eskimo cum

[Anonymous No.8548259]

>>8547797
First one. And yeah, I think I'm starting to get the hang of it. Although I'm kind of close to the end, I wanna get all achievements, so I'll probably have enough time to enjoy the game... I mean, it is pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.8548261]

castle totenkopf is super good

[Anonymous No.8548267]

>>8548226
It relies on a knowledge of a very specific Doom meta-mechanic, which is not a big deal for DW crowd and alike, but normal people will struggle a lot, since its very badly conveyed to the player and not nearly punishing enough to make it clear.
In other words, this is another example of why is skillsaw actually sucks at level design and nobody should ever learn from him.

[Anonymous No.8548274]

>>8548267
I've never played a Skillsaw level that I actually enjoy. I could write a college thesis on why he's a shitty level designer and a hack

[Anonymous No.8548293]

>>8548267
>>8548274
Cope
Your maps will never be as playable, readable and ultimately enjoyable as Skillsaw's
He is so comically far ahead of you I actually feel some pity.

[Anonymous No.8548301]

>>8548267
bro it literally tells you not to shoot the fuckin fatso how much clearer do you need

[Anonymous No.8548309]

>>8548293
I don't even make maps, anon

[Anonymous No.8548320]

>>8548267
>since its very badly conveyed to the player and not nearly punishing enough to make it clear.
I've never played the level but the goal of it seems pretty blatant by the big sign it shows. Killing the mancubus also makes it very immediate that you're going to get swarmed to death.
I'm not sure how much more clear you want it to be. Would you have liked a scrolling wall texture that says "Don't kill the mancubus"?

[Anonymous No.8548324]

>>8548320
When I first played the level I thought that it was supposed to be some kind of revolution against a Mancubus president, and you were supposed to kill him. I thought the signs were meant to be propaganda or something

[Anonymous No.8548325]

Finally finished Hillside Siege after trying on and off for about half a year.
What an annoying map.
Maybe I shouldn't pistolstart UV without saves when playing blind.

[Anonymous No.8548326]

>>8547087
Bloodstain was surprisingly good for how little people talk about it.

[Anonymous No.8548335]

>>8548325
idk Hillside Siege always sticks in my mind as one of the really cool early AV maps.

[Anonymous No.8548340]

>>8547068
I enjoy stealth games like Thief, Splinter Cell, Hitman, and Styx.

[Anonymous No.8548341]

>>8548325
>Maybe I shouldn't pistolstart UV without saves when playing blind.
Yes, that's a great way to make you hate the wad. If you must punish yourself so, at least choose between "pistol starts" or "no saves".

[Anonymous No.8548342]

>>8548335
Oh it is cool, but it's so, so annoying.

[Anonymous No.8548346]

https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/rwltexmp-real-world-like-textures-maps
Does anyone still have the texture pack these normal maps were intended for? The author deleted them it seems.

[Anonymous No.8548347]

>>8548341
It was fine for the IWADs and some easier maps/wads.
But some maps are too grindy/ long, I die a few times than I put it on hold for a while.

[Anonymous No.8548359]

>>8548267
Even if someone fails to get a clue from the beginning room on first try, unless the player is DSP levels of dense, I don't see how a swarm of arch-viles consistently spawning in after the mancubus dying wouldn't become clear to the player that maybe they shouldn't be killing the mancubus.

[Anonymous No.8548389]

>>8548259
>I wanna get all achievements
I think it took me 17 hours or so to get them all. But for a game you can play through in like 45 minutes I think that's a good value.
Better than 100%ing playing TR2013 in 17 hours with 0 replay value.

[Anonymous No.8548421]

>>8547879
>The recoil effect on the screen is annoying and I couldn't find a way to turn it off
There isn't right now, but thanks for reminding me. I can probably go through and painstakingly add in the ability to disable it or at least disable *most* of it since some of it affects gameplay.
Just for the record the recoils are all balanced so that if you have up/down look disabled you always end up aiming flat.
>>8548009
>does a newer version exist
Not right now but there is a polish/bugfix release coming soonish.

[Anonymous No.8548425]

>>8548267
>since its very badly conveyed to the player
When has this become the universal code for "I am a brainlet and blame my low IQ on map design"?

[Anonymous No.8548435]

>>8548347
The difficulty and length of some of the more modern iwads is where I had to break my "saveless" rule. For AV in particular you're going to run into some heavier slaughterfights nearer the middle.

[Anonymous No.8548440]

>>8547128
You're the reason games are shit now.

[Anonymous No.8548578]

>>8548440
Dude, I love early 3D and prerendered games when they have artistic skill behind them. If you cant tell the difference between fidelity and quality, thats on you.

[Anonymous No.8548652]

Alright, well that was less of a pain in the ass than I thought it would be.
Next version of Babel will have the ability to disable screen zoom and angle/pitch change effects. For all weapons except the SMG (and chaingun but that was a bug), these effects were purely cosmetic anyway. For the SMG some extra code has been added so that the spread pattern still shifts up slightly to simulate the ~0.4 degrees of pitch change if pitching is disabled, so the weapon handles identically.
Weapon pushback (A_Recoil) isn't configurable because it's actually gameplay affecting, but if such screen effects bothered you you'll notice a big difference without them. Personally I think it makes the weapons feel less powerful but hey, it's not hurting anything.
One more webm to follow showing just how big of a difference this can make with the chaingun in particular.

[Anonymous No.8548661]

>>8548652
Alternate title: It Ain't Me Starts Playing

[Anonymous No.8548680]

>>8548652
>>8548661
I'd recommend you to check how Ijon did traces for his DAKKA

[Anonymous No.8548691]

>>8547413
I only know this game because a song from it was in Alien Vendetta.

[Anonymous No.8548696]

>>8547414
There's /pol/.wad, I suppose.
Why do you want this?

[Anonymous No.8548717]

>>8548324
what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.8548721]

>>8548680
I have, and mine are what I'm looking for. I know what he did and I've done tracers like that before for other minimods, but visually I designed the sprite tracers in Babel to look a certain way which is how I prefer them. Also, since Babel is a singleplayer mod there is no reason for me to use ACS for netcode compatibility like he did. Other tracer types such as model and classic (in the new version) were included as alternatives, but sprite tracers are the generally intended form to be used.
In fact, my personal preference for tracer use is that, for player weapons, they should only be used with autoaim off. With it on most mods including my own tend to look a bit janky.

[Anonymous No.8548726]

>>8547414
It might just be me but this doesn't sound like a good idea.

[Anonymous No.8548884]

>>8548696
>>8548726
i was looking at doomguy's status bar face, and for a brief moment imagined a hitler stache on it, and it didn't exactly look out of place, which is why the idea popped into my head
with all the """controversial"" things doom mapping has achieved, i'm just honestly surprised it hasn't happened yet
hell levels could be based on his paintings with oddly colored skies and perspective skewed architecture
pain elementals could be matso balls
hell knights could be golems
barons could be made of gold
the chaingunner could be full orthodox with his ammo belt being a torah scroll
it'd be wonderful, but i'm not sure a full 6 million could fit in only 32 maps while still being playable

[Anonymous No.8548898]

I'm not sure this was brought up here yet.
>Source files for levels and all sorts of stuff. Wonder if any of this stuff was cut.
https://twitter.com/benmcoleman/status/1483182402847473665

>>8548389
>I think it took me 17 hours or so to get them all.
That's alright. I'm slow when it comes to this stuff, so I might as well reach 20-30 hours.

[Anonymous No.8548930]

>>8548898
tell them to upload the iso

[Anonymous No.8548938]

>>8548898
wait so we could possibly get a non shit version of blood 2?

[Anonymous No.8548969]

I'm on the last chapter of Valiant right nowwith freelook and no autoaim and I have had a fucking blast with it so far. Cyberwar 7734 is probably one of my favorite levels in any .wad probably by music alone.

[Anonymous No.8549075]

>>8547087
skillsaw stuff like valiant and ancient aliens are really good,heartland is also good,but the port it requires is total garbage.

[Anonymous No.8549125]

>>8549075
You just hate it, because it's not compatible with Brutal Doom.

[Anonymous No.8549165]

>>8549125
i dont use BD or any gameplay mods when playing most wads,what makes the port garbage is its garbage performance if you dare to have a high fov and resolution,even on what is good hardware (RX580 and 3900X),GZDOOM can be bad (like as low as 70 fps),but eternity feels like 40 in certain areas unless i tank the resolution.

[Anonymous No.8549232]

Hello there boys, i am looking for any RPG flavoured wads, something along the lines of Strife. Actually if you know any straight up Strife wads, id love to play some of those.

[Anonymous No.8549254]

>>8548267
>It relies on a knowledge of a very specific Doom meta-mechanic
It is not necessary to understand how it works in the editor to understand the gameplay concept. You're genuinely retarded if you can see that sign, kill the manc, see the result, and not understand what's going on.

[Anonymous No.8549274]

>>8548002
There is a switch on one of the bookshelves in the CG tower

[Anonymous No.8549324]

>>8548267
>>8549254
>>It relies on a knowledge of a very specific Doom meta-mechanic
Haven't played this map
can I get a qrd on this mechanic?

[Anonymous No.8549327]

>>8549324
It's like dead simple, but instead of opening the next stage of the map, death of mancubus opens the closet with horde of arch-viles who kill you.

So you need to make sure mancubus doesn't die before you reach the point where you crush arch-viles. It's really obvious because the whole map is covered with signs that have dead mancubus crossed.

[Anonymous No.8549335]

>>8549327
I guess that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.8549417]

>>8548267
Did a gaming journalist make this post?

[Anonymous No.8549526]

>>8548267
quick anon, tell me what this sign means

[Anonymous No.8549578]

If you get confused by the Mancubian Candidate you're actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.8549584]

>>8548267
>It relies on a knowledge of a very specific Doom meta-mechanic
Yep, super esoteric stuff, anon.

[Anonymous No.8549586]

>>8546693
>>8546740
>>8546975
We need to pump faggot! Get those numbers up there!

>>8546997
Side by side guns have remained more visible in media and fiction, partially because they just remained common IRL around the world for so long, and remains a mainstay of old period pieces like westerns,
it's also more visually striking from a centered first person perspective, where you get a good look at both barrels, and then both muzzle flashes as it touches off.

An over under would probably still have had aesthetic good effect, you could still show both the empty chambers when the gun is at the side and reloading, but it's not AS good as two blasting barrels side by side.

[Anonymous No.8549618]

>>8546975
https://youtu.be/XDheLViZbrk?t=195

>>8548267
I don't love every Skillsaw map, but Valiant is designed for someone who's got some experience with Doom and Doom 2, chances are pretty good that they know of the Map 07 special, but they don't, the level pretty explicitly tells you right away "Don't kill the fatty."
When you DO kill the fatty, Arch-Vile popped out, and assuming you have neurons left, you should be able to make the connection at the VERY least the second time you do it.

[Anonymous No.8549640]

How would you guys rank Skillsaws stuff? In my experience people seem to like Valiant the most

[Anonymous No.8549643]

>>8549640
Valiant > Ayylmaos >> Lunatic > Vanguard > the stuff i'm forgetting

[Anonymous No.8549659]

>>8549640
Pretty much what the other guy said

[Anonymous No.8549674]

>>8549640
AyyLmao > Heartland > Valiant > Lunatic > Vanguard

[Anonymous No.8549683]

>>8546682

[Anonymous No.8549695]

>>8549683
>ex-POW
>ex prisoner of war
huh?

[Anonymous No.8549701]

>>8549683
>dumb fuck's still seething 25 years later
gottem

[Anonymous No.8549724]

>>8549335
Every seventh map of a megawad is usually a Dead Simple clone, due to it being hardcoded or some shit in the original map where once all the mancubi are killed, some wall has to lower, and once all the arachnotrons are dead, another wall has to lower. Eviternity doesn't do this because it's "not like the other megawads" and Skulltiverse does the same thing Valiant does, except now you have to protect the mancubus until the very end.

[Anonymous No.8549725]

I feel like Doom is one of the few retro FPS to actually get rocket launchers right. You hit a tight group with a rocket and theyre all going to explode into gibs. In other games the range and damage are too low so it barely works on groups.

[Anonymous No.8549746]

Guys.

Remember that post about 3DR making a new AAA game that's a reboot of a cult classic franchise?

What if the franchise in question......

........ Was Blood?
Or maybe Painkiller idk

[Anonymous No.8549758]

>>8549725
The rocket launchers in all of the retro idsoft games are great.

[Anonymous No.8549774]

>>8549746
If they're doing anything Blood related they better hurry up, Caleb's voice actor is like 80 now so they gotta do it while he's still around

[Anonymous No.8549776]

>>8549232
Cult Of Despair

[Anonymous No.8549785]

>>8549758
Theyre good in DM, but they arent that satisfying in SP because the enemies are much tankier on average.

[Anonymous No.8549789]

>>8549526
It means proceed right

[Anonymous No.8549815]

>>8549774
He'll live, again!

[Anonymous No.8549827]

>>8549785
That's mainly a concern for the original Quake levels, and even then it's fun in its own right with the speed of everything and the grenade launcher. Quake 2 allows you to blow up a lot of softies.

[Anonymous No.8549863]

>>8549725
Quake, Blood, these also had great rocket launchers, hell, Duke had a micro rocket volley gun which hurriedly obliterated anything and everything with even small salvos, short of bosses (and even they were at its mercy if you had a full load).
Shadow Warrior also let you have heat seeking rockets, on top of a small ballistic nuclear warhead, which honestly Duke should have had.

Half-Life's was a bit limited because you could only carry six rockets, but instead you could laser guide them with great precision, which was particularly nice for downing choppers, but also you could use your laser to divert incoming enemy rockets.
Goldeneye had a decent one too, could only carry a few, and it was rare, but it let you project one of Goldeneye's deadly explosions at long range, and the high pitched screaming of the warhead both gives you a split second warning that you're about to get fucked, and sounds plain cool.

Then you have Rise Of The Triad, which is like 70% rocket launchers, with satisfying gib effects and splash damage, variety in roles and function, and being generous with how irresponsible you can be with said splash damage.

The 90s was a good time for bazookas and RPGs.

[Anonymous No.8549865]

>>8549683
>It was Terry
>>8549695 https://github.com/id-Software/wolf3d/blob/master/WOLFSRC/GOODSTUF.TXT

[Anonymous No.8549867]

>>8549746
If they could finish one of their current projects first that'd be even better

[Anonymous No.8549905]

So I made the gore giblets bounce and inherit momentum from their spawning actor. Not exactly the desired effect but I think I can make it work, lol
Also caught on film: World's toughest imp

[Anonymous No.8549919]

>>8549725
Always thought Doom had one of the worst retro rocket launchers, due to the way autoaim works and its small splash. As a Marathonchad used to blowing enemies away in all three dimensions, playing Doom for the first time and trying the rocket launcher felt extremely unsatisfying, and if ammo isn't a problem I'll nearly always take either shotty, the chaingun, or the energy gun over it.

[Anonymous No.8549997]

>>8549905
looks hilarious, in a good way

[Anonymous No.8550001]

How do you kill those 2 imps in Plutonia map29, the ones way in the back behind the cyberdemon? Can you get them to hit the cyberdemon and make him kill them? Is there some vantage point where your view height lines up?

[Anonymous No.8550003]

>>8549919
That's the rub. Autoaim is what makes or breaks the RL. Even though it's a good weapon by itself, without autoaim you can aim in between enemies and from far away while hitting sweet spots to avoid the splash damage as opposed to having to pray you manage to hit what you want and not eat rockets in the process.

[Anonymous No.8550006]

>>8549863
Youre right that Blood's is excellent.
Quake, no.
Shadow Warrior is actually exactly what I was thinking of. Heat seeking is great and all, but its still not satisfying against crowds because the damage and radius are too low.

[Anonymous No.8550009]

>>8549997
I might actually abandon it just because bouncing fucks up the decals (aka it makes none). I was trying to make gibbing a bit more satisfying but I don't want to compromise something that already works for a semi-silly new feature. Without the bounce the gibs tend to just line up on walls which looks even worse than them not inheriting momentum.

[Anonymous No.8550020]

>>8550009
shame, but understandable.

[Anonymous No.8550031]

>>8550006
How is Quake's rockets not great? Satisfying thump that sends them off, with a good explosion on impact, also blowing out particles in every direction to convey the speed and intensity of the explosions.

You're given a pretty comfortable supply of ammo, and it's just amazing for blowing up zombies, vores, wizards, pit fiends (if you get the drop on them), and honestly just about anything else in your way if necessary.
Though it was pioneered in ROTT and Marathon, and even kind of in Doom, rocketjumping really took off with Quake.

[Anonymous No.8550035]

>>8550031
The thing Ive been talking about since the beginning is crowd control. You are never going to gib a crowd in Quake like you can in Doom.

[Anonymous No.8550047]

>>8550035
Not with that attitude.

[Anonymous No.8550097]

>>8550035
Because there aren't crowds in Quake

[Anonymous No.8550109]

>>8550035
you can do it the multi-rocket launcher easily,and i think ive done it a few times in AD and violent rumble.

[Anonymous No.8550116]

>>8550035
There's several instances of grouped up zombie gib pinatas

[Anonymous No.8550152]

>>8547087
UAC Military Nightmare

[Anonymous No.8550203]

[Anonymous No.8550209]

>>8550203
>You look like you're about to ask everyone to sign your petition man.

[Anonymous No.8550220]

Interesting nuance that comes with discussing good rocket launchers, most gun talk is usually about which game has the best shotgun (the answer is Blood)

[Anonymous No.8550246]

>>8550220
How about slot 6 weapons? More specifically, the not quite BFG tier but very powerful weapons with limited ammo? I like gibbing popcorn enemies with the plasma gun in doom. Blood's tesla cannon is really fun to use in akimbo too with its flashy alt-fire. I don't like Quake's thunderbolt very much, feels really underwhelming unless you have a quad.

[Anonymous No.8550249]

>>8550246
>filename

[Anonymous No.8550272]

>>8550246
I like that it has its own unique ammo. I wish the BFGs in Doom and Quake 2 were like that.

[Anonymous No.8550452]

>>8550220
No, it's FEAR.

[Anonymous No.8550542]

>>8550220
Nope

[Anonymous No.8550549]

>>8547068
doom 2

[Anonymous No.8550650]

Are we ever going to play the GBA shooters on Zdoom at full HD?

[Anonymous No.8550665]

>>8550650
>Ecks VS Severe Lack of SOUL
JFC that looks gross.

[Anonymous No.8550680]

>>8550665
The dukester is pretty good

[Anonymous No.8550741]

>>8547068
I think Doom is actually the perfect game thanks to the source ports and massive amounts of mods you can play. If we just only count what id made back then I would still give the games a 10/10 assuming I'm allowed to play it with KBnM. I never tried keyboard only though would be fun to try.

That said, I play variety of all sorts of great games I like so Doom isn't the only thing. But the fact I can go back to it after awhile and enjoy it more than just about all other games I ever played really speaks to how great the games are. Resident Evil series, beat 'em ups such as SOR, and other Genesis classics like Sonic I enjoy going to a lot.

[Anonymous No.8550747]

>>8550741
>I would still give the games a 10/10 assuming I'm allowed to play it with KBnM. I never tried keyboard only though would be fun to try.
If you haven't already, Doom works really well with a controller since precision isn't much of an issue. Playing an easier WAD or something like Doom 64 with one can be pretty chill.

[Anonymous No.8550758]

>>8550747
I actually did emulate the N64 version of Doom 64 and beat it with a controller. Not the 64 controller but a 360 one. It definitely plays better with KBnM though. Oh yeah also played the PS Doom games long time ago with controller and also emulated it and played it yet again with PS controller. I'd like to try GBA doom on GBA just for the hell of it since its Doom.

[Anonymous No.8550769]

>>8548930
As if he would listen to some random noname. Besides, there might be one problem with that since he showed having this disc.
>>8548938
Friendly reminder that nu-Atari carries the publishing rights for Blood 2... Yeah, that surely answers your question.
>>8549746
>One of those developers is Saber Interactive, the team behind a handful of some of gaming's most recognizable ports. However, Saber's currently working on something new and it's sure to excite the PC gaming crowd. It now appears that Saber is hard at work on a new entry in the Painkiller franchise.
It's probably Painkiller. I wouldn't call Crysis "cult classic" since it has even stronger "techdemo" vibes compared to Quake 2, so Painkiller is my guess.
https://www.shacknews.com/article/124823/new-painkiller-announced-by-publisher-prime-matter

[Anonymous No.8550774]

>>8550769
Crysis was kino tho.

[Anonymous No.8550778]

>>8550758
I'd like to try the GBA Doom that was scratch developed for the GBA, rather than the shitty Jaguar port Carmack forced the developers to start over on.

[Anonymous No.8550793]

idea
an enemy that gives you partial invisibility when it hits you
has it been done before

[Anonymous No.8550795]

>>8550793
what the fuck. That's awful.

[Anonymous No.8550805]

>>8550793
you madman

[Anonymous No.8550807]

>>8550793
How about an enemy that makes all projectiles home on you when you are hit by it/in its line of sight?

[Anonymous No.8550812]

>>8550807
How about a powerup called "magnetic shots" that brings all projectiles to you, and there's an enemy that gives you this powerup when it hits you?

[Anonymous No.8550832]

>>8547249
kek this one got me to laugh. You deserve a (you).

[Anonymous No.8550898]

>>8550793
Corruption Cards has a debuff that makes all projectiles act this way but I don't know if there's a mod that has enemies inflict it on you.

[Anonymous No.8550901]

>>8550650
I want dark arena

[Anonymous No.8550914]

>>8550650
>tfw there was 2 Ecks Vs Sever FPS GBA games cus the whole movie rewrite

[Anonymous No.8550926]

does btsx1 have super shotgun?

[Anonymous No.8550982]

>>8550246
>Blaz, play Wonderwall!
>NO CAN DO

[Anonymous No.8550984]

>>8550926
Yes, it's a doom 2 megawad, why wouldn't it?

[Anonymous No.8551008]

>>8550926
It does but it doesn't give it out willy nilly early on, same with backpacks

[Anonymous No.8551053]

>>8546685
Can't say if it was in the ews or not but here is a freshly out Mala Petaka, a GZDoom-powered shooter in development.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHK3Iv71jpY
https://sanditiojitok.itch.io/mala-petaka-demo

[Anonymous No.8551054]

>>8551008
>>8550984
I'm on level 6 (?) and haven't found it yet
wads that don't have it I just cheat it in, but if it can be found I'll get it legit
cheers

[Anonymous No.8551118]

>>8548898
Cool! Care to reply to news post? >>8546685
>>8548938
Eh, i doubt it. Too much to fix. A patch, maybe.
I'd be hyped if someone used it to reverse engineer the LithTech though. More for Shogo than for Blood II.

[Anonymous No.8551156]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI6EV7_cv6I
>Now available! A WAD composed of 2 large Single Player/Coop maps. The first is a map that was not finished on time for DBP35 and the second is the full size "as intended" version of Auger Zenith's (DBP37) MAP10, before it went through (understandably) heavy modification to fit with the rest of the WADs maps and DBP rules.

[Anonymous No.8551235]

>>8546682

Trying to get Death Wish to run, I copy pasted the content into GoG's One Unit Whole Blood folder and run dw.bat. Unfortunately, an error pops up that says "Unsupported 16-bit application. The program or feature cannot start due to incompatibility with 64-bit versions of Windows".

Running compatibility modes doesn't work. Regular Blood works just fine (albeit with limited resolution settings). I did install OUWB in a different directory than C:\, if it makes a difference.

[Anonymous No.8551285]

>>8546682
ok /vr/, decide my next map.
>night-time desert town (travel through town fighting monsters to a building outside of town for the final third)
>sorcerer's castle (ancient ruins theme in general)
which one should i go with?

[Anonymous No.8551291]

>>8551054
>level 6
bruh

[Anonymous No.8551307]

>>8550793
an enemy that heals other enemies

[Anonymous No.8551312]

>>8551307
enemies that try to take and use your healing items when injured

[Anonymous No.8551317]

>>8551312
>enemy steals megasphere

[Anonymous No.8551347]

>>8551235
blood works because it runs within dosbox

that .bat file you're launching must be run under dosbox too

[Anonymous No.8551350]

Finally got to try GMOTA.
I have no idea what's going on, I have no weapons except some wrist canon and a lame sword but no shield?

[Anonymous No.8551370]

Enemy ideas:

Enemy that targets other monsters with a projectile that makes them partially invisible. Also makes you partially invisible if it happens to hit you.

Enemy that can't move or attack when you're looking at it, but when you're not it moves very fast and has a fast, high-damage melee attack that knocks you back. Have to make sure to keep it in your line-of-sight during a fight. Never turn your back on a doorway if there's one in the other room.

Enemy which randomly switches targets and will target anything/everything - the player, monsters, arch-viles, other members of the same species, barrels. Very deadly if you try to fight it one-on-one but can be used as a weapon (kinda like a cybie except you don't have to convince it to in-fight).

Enemy that eats monster corpses to spawn more of itself. Starts off in passive mode where it avoids the player and looks for corpses, but if enough of them have line-of-sight with each other they enter attack mode and become very dangerous. Can be ignored during a fight (and they'll help you clean up corpses that arch-viles might otherwise ressurect) except that you have to make sure to keep their numbers in check.

Imp-like enemy that can resurrect members of the same species (Golden Souls 2 has this monster but I wish it used it more and it was used in other wads)

Flying enemy that can clip through walls

Enemy that shoots projectiles at where you're going to be, rather than where you are, based on your position, velocity and the arc you're travelling along. Makes circle-strafing difficult.

Pair of enemies, one avoids the player and spawns a tough companion monster. If you kill the companion monster it will spawn another one. It takes several seconds to spawn it's companion giving you time to kill it during the process.

Enemy that gets faster and more aggressive the lower its health is. If you start damaging it, make sure to finish it off.

[Anonymous No.8551374]

>>8551347

Yeah, I didn't config the shortcut and files properly. It's running now, albeit I'll need to get mouse/resolution/controls to work

[Anonymous No.8551385]

>>8551235
just put the DW contents into the BLOOD folder and run it with raze with the "-ini dw.ini" flag.
>is that a bit crude?
yes,yes it is,but it works

[Anonymous No.8551390]

>>8548884
This is a beautiful idea, you have to play it completely straight though, without any carricatures or funny stuff, imo.

[Anonymous No.8551395]

>>8551285
Both sound dangerously kino but I think the desert town theme is underutilized

[Anonymous No.8551416]

[Anonymous No.8551446]

>>8550650
Don't GBA shooters all use different engines? Even between the GBA Doom ports, only Doom 1 actually uses the Doom engine, and it's specifically the Jaguar version of it.

[Anonymous No.8551450]

>>8551054
>wads that don't have it I just cheat it in
based
"A Doom wad with no SSG is a shit wad" - Albert Einstein, probably

[Anonymous No.8551468]

>>8551446
They're all Doom clones with some Hexen extras like revolving doors, aiming up and down, and sniper rifles
Some brave soul would need to rip the assets and maps and make them work in Zdoom somehow.

[Anonymous No.8551470]

>>8551416
>Now excuse me while I draw some big anime titties

[Anonymous No.8551486]

>>8551470
>>8551416
How would duke nukem draw?
child like or to a proffessional artist level?

[Anonymous No.8551509]

>>8551468
P sure most use wad format or something close as well.

[Anonymous No.8551514]

>>8551486

[Anonymous No.8551527]

Is Doom supposed to have player collision in Coop?
It was never a problem until just recently and it makes playing the game a massive pain in my ass. I've searched around a bit but nobody seems to know how to turn it back off.

[Anonymous No.8551542]

>>8551370
>Enemy that can't move or attack when you're looking at it, but when you're not it moves very fast and has a fast, high-damage melee attack that knocks you back. Have to make sure to keep it in your line-of-sight during a fight. Never turn your back on a doorway if there's one in the other room.
That sounds cool.
>Enemy that eats monster corpses to spawn more of itself. Starts off in passive mode where it avoids the player and looks for corpses, but if enough of them have line-of-sight with each other they enter attack mode and become very dangerous. Can be ignored during a fight (and they'll help you clean up corpses that arch-viles might otherwise ressurect) except that you have to make sure to keep their numbers in check.
IIRC the Gremlins in the Scourge Of Armagon Quake expansion do that.

[Anonymous No.8551543]

>>8551527
Yes, and it's supposed to have friendly fire, too.

[Anonymous No.8551549]

>>8551543
>Yes, but it's changeable modside
So that's why we had no issue playing Combined Arms. Well fuck

[Anonymous No.8551567]

[Anonymous No.8551640]

who does pistol start anyway

[Anonymous No.8551651]

>>8551640
demo recorders and playtesters

[Anonymous No.8551660]

>>8551640
I do.

[Anonymous No.8551663]

>>8551640
People looking for the real challenge

[Anonymous No.8551671]

>>8551567
adorable anon

[Anonymous No.8551710]

Snoyfags are pathetic creatures.

[Anonymous No.8551714]

bros... i can't find de way...

[Anonymous No.8551718]

Don't forget
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_community_jargon

[Anonymous No.8551721]

>>8551640
Not me.

[Anonymous No.8551724]

Any wad that spam-used them in a good way? Just love those adorable guys.

[Anonymous No.8551728]

We need more user iwads

[Anonymous No.8551754]

Is there any way to play Doom RPG 1+2 and the Wolfenstein RPG anymore?

[Anonymous No.8551768]

>>8551754
J2me emulator

[Anonymous No.8551770]

>>8551768
Is it even worth a look tho?

[Anonymous No.8551774]

>>8551770
Do you want to play those games or not? What the fuck kind of question is that?

[Anonymous No.8551776]

>>8551770
Yes, spent the better part of my school years playing those shits, along with Galaxy on Fire 2. Certainly games that transcend the platform.

[Anonymous No.8551778]

>>8551710

[Anonymous No.8551793]

>>8551156
tag
>>8546685
looks like a cool map

[Anonymous No.8551813]

>>8551776
did it net you any pussy though? Asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.8551817]

>>8551710
>seething about forum posts from another forum on 4chan
you're just a special little cancer cell aren't you

[Anonymous No.8551818]

>>8551813
Yes, i have purchased a cat right after i first installed the java version of Catz.

[Anonymous No.8551820]

>>8551774
Yes, but asking how you think about it doesn't hurt you know? I played through Redneck Rampage knowing it's a piece of shit so why not?

[Anonymous No.8551824]

>>8551817
don't feed the cancer anon. it will grow

[Anonymous No.8551905]

>>8548898
I hope someday that people will find source files for Shogo. In particular I want to see how much of the cut school level was finished and if the 90% of the content that was scrapped that Craig Hubbard mentioned in the NOLF Post-Mortem article was ever implemented.

[Anonymous No.8552156]

why does graf hate ghost monsters so much bros?

[Anonymous No.8552160]

>>8552156
it's a bug

[Anonymous No.8552189]

>>8551567
Looks like CGA or early EGA stuff.

[Anonymous No.8552247]

>>8551350
Check the F1 screen but lemme give you a quick rundown on Blaz:
>Hit dudes with sword
>Build up meter
>Hit reload to make sword better
>Hit dudes harder and get health back for doing so
>Kill more shit
>Get subweapons
>Rinse
>Repeat

[Anonymous No.8552301]

Ok, so I want to hear people's input on some aesthetic or stylistic additions to potentially do for 94 Protons Of /vr/

>cosmetic weapons
They behave the same, but have new looks and sound. Unlike the more smooth animations I usually do for stuff like this, I was pondering making them slightly slower and have less amounts of frames to make them look a bit more like they fit with the vanilla monsters.

>complete monster sounds
Some of Doom's monsters have no unique hurt or idle sounds, using the ones which go on the zombies or pinkie instead. Would you guys be interested in adding new ones to make them more distinct?
Or do you feel that would affect the gameplay too much, giving the player slightly more of a clue about nearby monsters?

>a couple of extra props
Mainly I'm thinking since Plutonia ostensibly takes place in the middle of Africa (Map 01 is named Congo), that possibly some jungle trees and bushes could be added for people who want to use those for their map, if I can conjure up some suitable sprites for that.
Don't really have much else in mind, beyond MAYBE fires, but we have animated wall textures for that.
Do any of you guys want explosive barrel variants for different styles of levels, like wooden barrels for hell castles, and explosive flesh blobs for flesh hell levels?

>plasma marine
An anon suggested a zombie with a plasma rifle as an additional monster. The way I'd envision that is basically like a zombieman with a helmet who fires bursts of 10 plasma shots at the player's own rate of fire, high damage, but is as fragile as the shotgun baldy or chaingunner, or inbetween. May or may not drop a plasma rifle, and they would NOT be the fast bastards like in Scythe 2.
I'm not huge on that idea, but what do you guys think about it?

Do shoot me down on stuff like this if you think it's way too much.

[Anonymous No.8552323]

>>8552301
>>complete monster sounds
This is completely unnecessary for what's primarily meant to be a map set. If I cared so much about monsters having distinct sounds, I would load a gameplay mod for it.

[Anonymous No.8552325]

>>8552323
That's fair. What do you think of the other ideas?

[Anonymous No.8552339]

>>8552325
>>cosmetic weapons
Hmm, new weapons can't hurt as long as they're just sprite/sound replacements, but changing stats is going to be contentious, especially if you finish the guns when the set is nearing completion in the mapping department and the mappers balanced their maps around the vanilla guns.
>>extra props
Sure, why not?
>>plasma marine
Sounds interesting. If you can do it without sacrificing the SS Nazis for lunchlunch then that would be good.

[Anonymous No.8552348]

>>8550774
I'm just sharing what I've seen it. Not much interesting getting into it, especially after my Quake 2 experience.
>>8551118
>Care to reply to news post?
Oh, damn! Sure! Should've that immediately, my bad.
>>8551905
It's pretty much a gamble when it comes to old source codes. While this Blood discovering is a good sign, there's still a chance that Shogo's files are lost to time. Stuff like this is always sad regardless of the game's quality, but that's just how it is.

>>8546685
Don't overlook this, please: >>8548898

[Anonymous No.8552356]

>>8552301
Plasma marines should drop a cell. Definitely shouldn't be evil marine type.

[Anonymous No.8552357]

>>8552301
>extra props
yes
>changing vanilla monster sounds
no
>New zombieman with plasma
I'm not opposed to it. I don't understand where the inspiration comes from and as such it seems random to me so I'd envision it just being a tiny part of the wad, occasionally here and there. He'd drop small cell charge, not a plasma rifle. I can't remember if this is doable through extended dehacked or if it requires MBF21.
>Unlike the more smooth animations I usually do for stuff like this, I was pondering making them slightly slower and have less amounts of frames to make them look a bit more like they fit with the vanilla monsters.
So in other words, use the original Doom number of frames and just replace the sprites? Not complaining, just seemed like a weird way of wording that.

[Anonymous No.8552415]

>>8552301
I appreciate the work you do but I think you're going to overload yourself and push back the release indefinitely if you start working on cosmetic stuff. You can get obsessed, like you wanted to change the TT diabolist sprites to a slightly different shade of red and spent like two months doing it lol

[Anonymous No.8552427]

>>8552339
>Hmm, new weapons can't hurt as long as they're just sprite/sound replacements
That's all they'd be, nobody was interested in weapon tweaks, and it's easier for everyone to balance around the gameplay they know already.

>If you can do it without sacrificing the SS Nazis for lunchlunch then that would be good.
I think that if we use DehExtra instead of DsDeHacked, we could still add our own frames and monsters without having to cut up existing ones, and DehExtra is supported by more ports (including popular ones like GzDoom, as well as Woof, From Doom With Love, and the new PrBoom+), as opposed to DsDeHacked which only works in DSDA, currently.
Besides, I don't think we need any of the added functions from DsDeHacked.

>>8552356
Might be more suitable and easier to balance around.
And yeah, they should walk slow and be bowled over by an SSG blast.

>>8552357
>I don't understand where the inspiration comes from
Some anon suggested it in the last round of questions. Wasn't that hot on it, but as I autismally drafted up a backstory for 94 Protons, I realized they could kinda fit.

>and as such it seems random to me so I'd envision it just being a tiny part of the wad
Depends on how much people want to use them. They can fit through a 64 wide door, unlike Arachnotron, so that's useful, but they also don't sustain a constant slow salvo, instead hitting you for a burst of pain (I think he would be too deadly if he sustained fire).

>>8552415
>I think you're going to overload yourself and push back the release indefinitely if you start working on cosmetic stuff.
Well, it would be minor things, I figure I can reuse stuff which exists.

>You can get obsessed, like you wanted to change the TT diabolist sprites to a slightly different shade of red and spent like two months doing it lol
That's true, but the Diabolist is a reskinned Arch-Vile, which means there's shitloads of detailed frames, so there's that. I think I also have a better work flo

[Anonymous No.8552428]

i can't see shit: the level

[Anonymous No.8552430]

>>8551370
>Flying enemy that can clip through walls
Ashes 2063 has these
>Pair of enemies, one avoids the player and spawns a tough companion monster. If you kill the companion monster it will spawn another one. It takes several seconds to spawn it's companion giving you time to kill it during the process.
I like this, and it's a bit like a related idea I've had. There's a lich that spawns as a powerful projectile-casting enemy, but if you kill it, it just comes back some time later. However, if you find its phylactery (which can be embedded in another enemy or hidden somewhere else in the level), you can destroy it and kill the lich for good.
>Enemy that gets faster and more aggressive the lower its health is. If you start damaging it, make sure to finish it off.
Probably the best/most vivid 2.5D shooter dream I've ever had one of these. It was a sort of atmospheric thermal plant level with a few weak enemies and a lot of lava pits everywhere; the goal was to sabotage the plant, which would cause a timed explosion and open up a new part of a larger hub area. However, when I began the timer, I remembered that in addition to the main escape bulkhead (which had only just opened), there was a similar bulkhead earlier in the level, which I backtracked to.

It revealed a secret new floor safe from lava, and had a mummy-cocoon type enemy, totally wrapped up and sort wiggling towards me, legs bound as well. It would slowly unravel its wrappings and be able to move its legs a bit faster, and as I shot it bits of wrapping would fly off and pieces of flesh would be exposed, making it even faster. At some point all the wrappings just disintegrated revealing this horrifying fleshy humanoid with gems embedded in it, which began shrieking and running directly at me. I killed it barely in time before it reached me, and picked up some kind of special escape key, and woke up. If I ever have the time to make my own standalone FPS, it's going to have that exact encounter.

[Anonymous No.8552440]

>>8552427
>I think I also have a better work flo
That's true, you busted out the Ad Mortem stuff quick. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying keep it manageable for yourself

[Anonymous No.8552454]

>>8552428
Hey better than map 22
Shit: the level

[Anonymous No.8552462]

>>8552428
>>8552454
Map 26 was one of the best levels from TNT's second half imo.

[Anonymous No.8552476]

>>8552440
>you busted out the Ad Mortem stuff quick
While being unable to see clearly further less than one foot from my face, at that.
Weapons are much less work than monsters though, much less frames, no rotations aside from maybe projectiles. I only have one monster in the pipeline currently though, the final boss, and then potentially one added enemy.

Textures are close to done, and I also have a whole stack of useful .midis in case people don't have any good choices of their own.

[Anonymous No.8552483]

>>8552427
I forgot to mention, the wad Lunatic has a plasma zombie so maybe you can use those sprites unless you already had some in mind

[Anonymous No.8552563]

>>8552357
>So in other words, use the original Doom number of frames and just replace the sprites? Not complaining, just seemed like a weird way of wording that.
Uh, not quite THAT limited, I'd want to have a little bit more to work with, just not animating everything really smoothly at 1 tic per frame.

[Anonymous No.8552570]

boy i sure love finding all the secrets but not the way to progress the level on the very first fucking map of a game and being forced to use noclip to get through a door that doesn't have a switch anywhere in the known universe

[Anonymous No.8552582]

>>8552570
By first map you mean the supermarket map and not the prologue map I assume?

[Anonymous No.8552583]

>>8552570
You must have done something wrong.

[Anonymous No.8552591]

>>8552570
Tried jumping?

[Anonymous No.8552596]

>>8552582
yes
>>8552583
not my problem
>>8552591
yeah that's how i got the secrets

[Anonymous No.8552601]

>>8552596
Okay sure, Ashes worked flawlessly for me. Never had to noclip anything.

[Anonymous No.8552606]

>>8552570
You got filtered by a switch hunt, anon. Go finish Hexen and git gud.

[Anonymous No.8552630]

>>8550793
A sped-up, partially invisible caco that makes you invisible by biting you would be funny.

[Anonymous No.8552631]

>>8550793
>>8550795
>>8550805
Finely Crafted Fetish Film

[Anonymous No.8552679]

>>8552428
Just jump and win bro. Easy.

[Anonymous No.8552680]

>>8552596
Post the screenshot of the door that hurt you.

[Anonymous No.8552706]

>>8552570
Was this the door that was locked for you?

[Anonymous No.8552708]

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME FAGGOTS! Tonight we're playing through Unexpected Retro Experience. We'll follow it up with Classic Episodes 1 & 2 (and maybe Mark Klem's Cringe if we have time).
CONNECT WITH ZANDRONUM:
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

[Anonymous No.8552716]

>>8552706
i don't know where that door is
i couldn't even tell the path of progression with noclip so i went through a metal overhead door in the grocery store with enemies behind it thinking its trigger had bugged out

[Anonymous No.8552720]

>>8552708
Reminder to go in settings and pin the ip if you can't find server in doomseeker.

[Anonymous No.8552726]

>>8552570
Yeah I literally couldn't complete the tutorial level due to either a bug or blindness

[Anonymous No.8552741]

>>8552708
Can you post that doomguy in the cart by itself, please?

[Anonymous No.8552765]

>>8552630
only if it's faster than a turbo archvile
i was thinking like a wolf ss with a bit more health that's immune to monster damage, splash damage, and doesn't infight
just plop 5 of em in a crowd of 100 mancubi and reap the rewards (pain)

[Anonymous No.8552781]

>>8552726
https://youtu.be/1e54ZOLcYgQ
Works on my machine.

[Anonymous No.8552861]

Is really that hard?

[Anonymous No.8552868]

>>8552861
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.8552873]

>>8552679
>cheating
source port fags get the rope

[Anonymous No.8552897]

>>8552741
Remade it in full size because it was tiny and shitty. Not my finest paint.net work but good enough

[Anonymous No.8552903]

>>8552897
thank you

[Anonymous No.8552978]

>>8552679
based as fuck

[Anonymous No.8553025]

>>8552708
Server seems a little more laggy than usual.

[Anonymous No.8553041]

>>8552708
With that out of the way, we're going to play through Classic Episodes 1 & 2! Rejoin and let's finish this!

[Anonymous No.8553050]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126780-need-some-skyboxes/
This is so retarded, where's anon plays shitwads when we need him

[Anonymous No.8553071]

>>8552716
It's one of two doors which opens a large flood of enemies and leads to a new street. If you couldn't find it you should probably stop playing fps games entirely.

[Anonymous No.8553074]

>>8553050
>128 maps

[Anonymous No.8553082]

The forgotten art of fps skyboxes...

[Anonymous No.8553084]

>>8553071
i ran around the map 16 times humping every single surface
there is no door leading to any street

[Anonymous No.8553090]

>>8552301
The reason people like Plutonia is for the gameplay. If you start adding enemies or changing any enemies/weapons, you will push the project farther away from possibly imitating Plutonia's gameplay.

Personally, I dont really see the purpose of changed weapons. But it wouldnt be bad.

Extra props and textures to flesh out the themes more is a nice idea though.

[Anonymous No.8553094]

>>8553084
You walk into a sort of backroom in the market, there's a scripted moment where a bandit says "Scavenger, come and and plaaaay", and then two large doors open to the street. If it didn't work for you, sounds like your game had some weird bug that seemingly no one else has ever had.

[Anonymous No.8553095]

>>8553050
>>8553074

[Anonymous No.8553096]

Name wolf 3d mods that recreate Doom and viceversa.

[Anonymous No.8553109]

>>8553094
i have been there
nothing opened

[Anonymous No.8553118]

>>8553109
There are walkthroughs on youtube, consult them. You will NOT derail the thread

[Anonymous No.8553120]

>>8553090
>If you start adding enemies or changing any enemies/weapons, you will push the project farther away from possibly imitating Plutonia's gameplay.
A pretty fair point. Maybe I should poll people on the Plasma Zombie.

>Personally, I dont really see the purpose of changed weapons. But it wouldnt be bad.
Again, only cosmetic changes, and mainly because it can look cool.

[Anonymous No.8553128]

>>8553074
>>8553095
He left TNT levels 25-32 in the WAD he uploaded.
All maps are so flat and shitty it's almost impressive.
Map13 is my favourite cause I get to bully-punch the imp in the starting room over and over.

[Anonymous No.8553129]

Doomworld has a discussion on whether the term blind playthrough is ableist.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126994-doom-terms-to-get-rid-of-in-2022/

[Anonymous No.8553138]

>>8553129
>caring what those faggot retards think

[Anonymous No.8553141]

>>8553118
discussion of doom mods is fully on topic

[Anonymous No.8553143]

>>8553129
This thread is obviously bait.

[Anonymous No.8553147]

>>8553141
only the ones released up to December 2007.

[Anonymous No.8553151]

>>8553129
Obvious shitpost is obvious. The term blind playthrough recently got removed from something related to Twitch which is where he got it from.

[Anonymous No.8553164]

>>8553151
I hate this world so much.
How long until future releases of retro shooters like Hexen remove creatively named difficulties for being too "mean" or "offensive"?

[Anonymous No.8553191]

>>8553141
It's technically on topic but if you have self-awareness, common courtesy dictates that you stop hijacking the thread with your walkthrough request after a couple of replies

[Anonymous No.8553194]

journalist mode should be a real difficulty where you're immune to damage but get a pen, paper, and camera instead of weapons
the goal would be snapping photos of stuff to learn its in-depth stats and mechanics
if enemies block you just scream "i'm with the press" to push them back

[Anonymous No.8553196]

>>8553164
Ok calm down spaz

[Anonymous No.8553198]

>>8553194
it's funnier if journalist mode is just the new name for easy/story mode

[Anonymous No.8553202]

>>8553191
i haven't developed full lucidity yet, please continue replying to me thread monitor chan.

[Anonymous No.8553206]

>>8553196
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.8553207]

>>8553129
I'm not gonna go there but I suspect they're not asking an actual blind person for their opinion like always, right?

[Anonymous No.8553213]

>>8553194
I'd prefer it if journalist mode constantly berated you for not having a real job or being insincere. Even the enemies could taunt you constantly.
>"LOOK WHO NEEDS TO GET AN ARTICLE OUT BY TUESDAY!"

[Anonymous No.8553219]

>>8553213
that can be a part of it too

[Anonymous No.8553225]

>>8553207
Given that blind people probably don't watch playthroughs (blind or otherwise), they probably don't care one way or the other

[Anonymous No.8553238]

>>8553225
There are blind gamers. I've even seen blind fighting game players, which sounds crazy to me. So they could just ask those people if they feel offended.

[Anonymous No.8553249]

>>8552708
One more for tonight: Cringe! Rejoin and let's plow through it.

[Anonymous No.8553262]

>>8553249
Excuse me, what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.8553267]

>>8553262
Kek, a wad that's 100 times the size of Doom

[Anonymous No.8553276]

>>8553262
If you get this bug, right click the progress bar and then click "Skip for current URL"

[Anonymous No.8553286]

>>8553249
Where did you get these wads because Doom Explorer can't find em

[Anonymous No.8553290]

>>8553262
>one entire fucking gigabyte of cringe
lole

[Anonymous No.8553291]

>>8553286
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/a-c/cringe6
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/sounds/cringe3
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/graphics/cringe2
Use doomseeker fgt

[Anonymous No.8553293]

>>8553291
I don't need to, you just gave me the links

[Anonymous No.8553302]

>>8553267
>>8553290
Anons, your math reps...

[Anonymous No.8553392]

No One Lives Forever
No One Lives Forever 2
Prey 2006
Wolfenstein 2009
Duke Nukem 3D Megaton/Atomic edition
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Eagle Watch expansion
Tom Clancy's Rogue Spear
Codename Tenka
Battlefield 1942

What are the other "abandoned" PC shooters not avaliable for purchase?

[Anonymous No.8553401]

>>8552708
Thanks for joining.

[Anonymous No.8553403]

>>8552708
>>8553401
Thanks for hosting these shitty wads
If I ever see them played again I'll know to just disconnect and go play something actually fun instead

[Anonymous No.8553408]

>>8553392
Half Life WON version.
Also you can buy the Atomic Edition on the Zoom platform.

[Anonymous No.8553412]

>>8553408
>Half Life WON version.
Where would I go about finding this?

[Anonymous No.8553416]

>>8553412
archive.org

[Anonymous No.8553423]

>>8553129
Faggot
Faggot
Faggot
Faggot

[Anonymous No.8553426]

>>8553416
Found it. Weird why a link to something kind of difficult to find wouldn't be in the OP.

[Anonymous No.8553449]

>>8553392
I got my hands on Tenka on some abandonware site because I wanted to see where "the wierd janky game with a transforming gun from the PS1 demo disc" goes, but that fucking piece of shit has some kind of a bug where your running speed is crippled most of the time and one of the levels has time bombs you're physically unable to reach because of the glitch.

[Anonymous No.8553465]

>>8553449
You played the PC version or the PSX version?
I added it to my list because Kaiser Villareal commented he wanted to remaster it, but in retrospect a Psygnosis game is probably better played in the PSX version. Also Alien Trilogy is better there too.

[Anonymous No.8553469]

>>8552708
based.wad when?

[Anonymous No.8553475]

>>8553465
PC version, no idea if the PS version is fucked too.

[Anonymous No.8553480]

>>8553469
We've had that several times over: Whenever you boys get together and make wads.

[Anonymous No.8553486]

>>8553480
D'awwww

[Anonymous No.8553656]

>>8553392
>Duke Nukem 3D Megaton/Atomic edition
https://www.zoom-platform.com/product/duke-nukem-3d-atomic-edition

[Anonymous No.8553659]

>>8553656
Don't show Randy this

[Anonymous No.8553724]

>>8551416
Those anthropomorphic bastards lowered my sperm count.

[Anonymous No.8553729]

>>8550793
What about an enemy that temporary blinds you when it hits you? Think like the mudman or boomer from l4d2 but instead of a mud or puke overlay it just changes your screen to Fireblu.

[Anonymous No.8553748]

>>8553050
>One Hundred Twenty Eight Maps

[Anonymous No.8553754]

>>8551468
This looks like if someone ported postal 2 to the GBA.

[Anonymous No.8553803]

>>8553050
>Admittedly, yeah. 128 maps is a bad idea. But I've committed to it, sure, there is bigger megawads. But If I pull this off, If I'm not mistaken, this will be the largest solo megawad out there. And sure, my track record is net zero. You have no reason to trust me. I will say something though, I am 100% commited to it. I've already gotten some of the map names down and things of that sort. Do I promise you that It will get complete? Yes. As to when, I'm not too sure. Probably sometime in the coming years. Maybe 2024 or something like that.

[Anonymous No.8553814]

>>8553050
>inb4 they're all OBLIGE maps

[Anonymous No.8553860]

>>8553050
>>8553803
>128 maps
Heh, I kinda had an idea like that many years ago. Had some ambitious ideas for a project that ultimately never came to be in any way, shape or form (it would've just been a Grezzo 2 ripoff anyway). He seems much more motivated than I was so I wish him good luck and godspeed.

[Anonymous No.8553987]

Why does Mount Pain make you seethe?

[Anonymous No.8553995]

>>8553426
Add to the OP again

[Anonymous No.8554003]

>>8553987
Who's this "you" you're talking to? Who is this question directed toward? Your imaginary friend?

[Anonymous No.8554008]

>>8553050
>So which map should I check out, if you had to pick one? Which one do you think is your strongest work?
>would have said 23 if it wasn't broken

[Anonymous No.8554010]

>>8554003
Doomworld, normies, ecelebs, etc.

[Anonymous No.8554071]

>>8552247
Oh, I see. So it's not like Combined Arms, I'm meant to stick to the sword.
Since the wad was named Go Medieval, I expected some kind of a poor man's Mordhau, or Arthurian Legends.

[Anonymous No.8554078]

>>8551640
He does.

[Anonymous No.8554086]

>>8553096
I swear to god there's a Wolf3D mod that uses the pinky instead of the guard dogs but I remember nothing else about it, not even the name.

[Anonymous No.8554095]

>>8554010
Well as you can tell, this is not doomworld, nor is it home to any ecelebs or normies, so your question feels entirely misplaced

[Anonymous No.8554103]

>>8554095
I dunno, I consider Kegan to be an eceleb.
He's one of the good ones tho

[Anonymous No.8554106]

>>8554103
You take that back you little snot

[Anonymous No.8554107]

>>8554106
>Has a Twitch account
>Has a Twitter
>Has a patreon
>Isn't an eceleb

[Anonymous No.8554110]

There is nothing wrong with 20th Anniversary World Tour.

[Anonymous No.8554123]

>>8554071
Nah. Think more like Ghosts n Goblins mixed with the DnD beat em ups. Very melee focused.

>>8554103
>>8554107
I'm just some dork that makes mods and suffers from indecisiveness.

[Anonymous No.8554126]

>>8554107
You raise a good point, but there's a defining trait of ecelebs that he lacks, and that's being a terrible fucking person. Kegan is a total bro and great guy to talk to, and it's amazing how much shit he's willing to put up with.

[Anonymous No.8554128]

>>8554123
Don't think I didn't notice that most of Blaz's subweapons are Ghosts'n Goblins weapons

[Anonymous No.8554137]

>>8554123
Not what I expected, but now that I know, I might be able to enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.8554142]

>>8553469
There's an actual cringe.wad from the 90s, it's by Mark Klem (more famous for his .midis). It's not very good.
There's also a based.wad, which is a short-ish set of Boom levels, and they're actually pretty good, worth playing.

[Anonymous No.8554143]

>>8554128
Except I made some of them better, like the torch and axe.
Also Blaz is VERY inspired by Arthur of Ghosts n Goblins, along with a bit of Adol from Ys:
>Mostly silent
>Runs really fast
>Red hair
>Kills shit way bigger than him with a sword
>His best friend is a former thief

>>8554137
If he doesn't gel with you could try Doomslayer, who plays kinda like a cross between classic Doom and a bit of Doom 4. I hesitate to recommend Kustam cus in the current public build there's some design aspects I'm not happy with and I've fixed for the upcoming final update.

[Anonymous No.8554149]

>>8554143
Honestly I already have a lot of wads I mean to play. And that's without getting into the really funky ones, like Golden Souls that I still haven't finished.

[Anonymous No.8554153]

>>8553987
It doesn't. I hate the Disaster Area, which is completely unnecessary, but other than that, the map is ok.

[Anonymous No.8554157]

>>8554153
How do you kill the Archvile tho

[Anonymous No.8554162]

>>8554157
I seduced him.

[Anonymous No.8554164]

>>8554149
Understandable. I still need to play the remaster of that.

[Anonymous No.8554173]

>>8554164
There was a remaster?
Uuurgh, even in Doom wad, I have a backlog. Fuck it, I'll go finish Nier Automata.

[Anonymous No.8554178]

>>8554173
Yeah, it polishes the gameplay up quite a bit. Weapons got a work over and the fucking awful plant bastards got a nerf.
Also yeah go finish Near a-tomato. That's a good one too.

[Anonymous No.8554184]

>>8554178
Too many games. Fucking Final Fantasy sales, too, with IV, V, VI, X HD, XII and XIV, I'll be busy for years.

[Anonymous No.8554186]

>>8554184
Well on the bright side, you'll always have something to play.

[Anonymous No.8554193]

>>8554186
But I get sad when characters I like suffer, not everyone can be Doomguy.

[Anonymous No.8554205]

Had a conversation with a friend of mine about non-FPS game, and he talked about how some modders paid dedicated sites, YouTubers and what-not for advertisement. Although to some degree that sounds pretty far-fetched, that got me wondering if someone actually done that? Like, the idea of itself of someone giving money to increase popularity of your mod or map sounds just silly. Am I dumb? Because that sounds like some next level of insecurity as I always assumed that it's all about a word of mouth and creating solid content. To be fair, I'm not good when it comes to modding subject (trying to get better).

>>8553096
I remember this mod from Dwars' video:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-legions-of-hell-sdl-version
>>8553213
>>"LOOK WHO NEEDS TO GET AN ARTICLE OUT BY TUESDAY!"
For someone who runs a scuffed blog that nobody reads and currently work as copywriter, this cracked me up... I need to finish some articles today. LOL
>>8554123
>I'm just some dork that makes mods and suffers from indecisiveness.
That's the type of phrase I use to describe myself, except I can't even decide to make a mod... I just love typing/saying "dork" every now and then. Don't know why.

[Anonymous No.8554215]

>>8552868
>smells
What's the smell like?

[Anonymous No.8554239]

>>8554193
>not everyone can be Doomguy.
>implying Doomguy does not suffer
You've been huffing nuDoom lore again.

[Anonymous No.8554241]

>>8554215

[Anonymous No.8554251]

[Anonymous No.8554254]

>>8554239
He doesn't visibly suffer. Beyond that one interlude where he saves mankind and finally slumps down, he doesn't show any doubts, remorse, or pity.
Compare him to Tidus who is scared, confused, crying and in love or Zero who is angry, angry, angry and angry.

[Anonymous No.8554257]

>>8554254
He suffers quite a bit throughout Doom 1, 2, TNT, Plutonia, and 64.
He just endures it.

[Anonymous No.8554259]

>>8554257
Never played TNT, Plutonia or 64.

[Anonymous No.8554260]

>>8554259
Well there's your problem, Anon. Fuck at the end of 64 he kills the mother of all demons, steps into the hell portal and shuts it behind him, choosing to stay and fight demons for all eternity.

[Anonymous No.8554267]

>>8554260
I heard bad things about TNT and Plutonia, so I wasn't really curious. 64 is apparently interesting, since it's much more atmospheric than Doom.

[Anonymous No.8554269]

>>8554267
TNT is kinda boring, but Plutonia kicks ass. It's hard yeah but it's really fun.

[Anonymous No.8554274]

>>8554267
Who told you final doom was bad? TNT has lots of decent to good maps, but the ones that are bad are REALLY bad. It's still worth a at least a shot. Plutonia isn't as hard as people make it out to be. Monsters are used carefully to fuck you over, but the levels are short. It's also far more consistent in quality than TNT.

[Anonymous No.8554276]

>>8554269
Isn't Plutonia the one infamous for having revenants and chaingunners everywhere, but usually on the other side of the map?

[Anonymous No.8554279]

>>8554276
It does use chaingunners and revenants a lot because they're good monsters but not to the absurd degree that the wad gets memed on for.

[Anonymous No.8554310]

>>8554276
It's basically meme at this point. Yes, Plutonia does use revenants, chaingunners and all of the beastiary. It's very first wad to bother with the enemy placement. It influenced the combat of basically all modern wads. It's not considered hard wad today, just average challenge. Maps are also quite short, so it's not bad for blind playthroughs either. I find it kind of oxymoronic to complain about Plutonia's difficulty. These people want to be hardcore and play without saves on uv, and yet they can't complete a medium difficulty wad. Don't listen to them anon. Just try it. If it feels too hard, lower difficulty or save on some checkpoints. You have to practice to become good player and not blame wad, if you can't beat it blind on uv while still lacking the skill to do that.

[Anonymous No.8554325]

>>8554215
Burning Corpse

[Anonymous No.8554342]

>>8551724
Valiant comes to mind

[Anonymous No.8554545]

What if the rock play doom

[Anonymous No.8554557]

[Anonymous No.8554715]

>>8554254
>He doesn't visibly suffer
He gets trapped at the end of episode 1, presumably killed and sent through to the shores of hell.
64 gives the impression that the previous four games took their toll on him and he’s starting to break down.

[Anonymous No.8554821]

>>8554239
Even in nuDoom when he was found after spending eons in hell he was a broken mess of mental issues screaming "rip and tear" while in the coliseum. Then eventually demons tricked him and locked him in his coffin where he gets found in 2016.

[Anonymous No.8554841]

>>8554715
>>8554821
i mean, aren't the ingame pain sounds, hud face and cover art him technically being hurt and feeling pain?

[Anonymous No.8554927]

>>8551640
Men do

[Anonymous No.8555047]

>>8554821
>>8554239
in nu-DOOM he even has small hallucinations of daisy and he still keeps a picture of his family with him ripped out,clearly remorseful that he could,'t save them,(or at least not be with them,knowing finalDOOM mentioned grandkids,so he's may not be starting over back at earth)
he clearly has feelings,he just doesn't show them in ever apparent ways nowadays.

[Anonymous No.8555049]

>>8554259
>hasn't played the best DOOM game,plutonia.

[Anonymous No.8555058]

Hey /vr/, what would be the easiest way to get doom up and running with gyro controls?

[Anonymous No.8555063]

>>8555047
I think he's like Kratos and Chell. He does have feelings, but he hides them under a layer of anger, and refuses to speak.

[Anonymous No.8555076]

>>8547167
mario 3 is older and certainly not uglier than that 3D crap

[Anonymous No.8555082]

>>8547068
Confession : Doom is my game for when I'm burned out. Through sometimes I switch it for Sonic Robo Blast Kart. Just driving feels fulfilling.

[Anonymous No.8555083]

>>8555063
>Chell
I didn't even know the Portal lady had a name

[Anonymous No.8555084]

>>8555058
add the sourceport to steam and try it that way

[Anonymous No.8555097]

>>8552301
Is it okay if my map is a lot of classic techbase mixed with a little of plutonia jungle/shitbrown theme?

[Anonymous No.8555103]

>>8552476
>I also have a whole stack of useful .midis in case people don't have any good choices of their own.
care to share?

[Anonymous No.8555104]

>>8555083
She used to be Chell Johnson, before "CJ" was retconned to Cave Johnson, the so energetic president of Aperture Laboratories.

[Anonymous No.8555112]

>>8554821
>he was a broken mess of mental issues screaming "rip and tear"
because they desperately wanted to write the comic shit into the lore dump of a game.

[Anonymous No.8555127]

>>8555112
not even the comic but the "the demons are everywhere" which comes from a "so bad it's good" fanfic someone wrote and was another meme around doom
people taking daisy's death in doom seriously is like when a movie trailer has a sad piano version of an 80's tv show's campy theme
the goofy music in e3 made it seem goofy with how it transitioned to an angry track and the head on a spike
can't wait for people to add dramatic lore behind the keen easter egg in map 32

[Anonymous No.8555139]

>>8555127
It is serious in-universe, but nothing is really serious in old or new Doom.

[Anonymous No.8555141]

>>8555127
Really it's reselling the old memes and shit to the new audience, because that's big business.

[Anonymous No.8555147]

>>8549774
I wonder how he sounds now? Caleb's voice seems like one that would sound even more bad ass with age.

[Anonymous No.8555169]

>>8555127
Wasn't Daisy not even his rabbit to begin with?

[Anonymous No.8555189]

>>8555169
Her existence and mentions were strictly within the end screens.
>BESIDES, SOMEONE WAS GONNA PAY FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO DAISY, YOUR PET RABBIT
The whole episode is weird and I’m not sure where it’s supposed to take place.

[Anonymous No.8555191]

>>8554259
You're missing out.

TNT is somewhat lengthy at times, and since it was originally a community project, it kinda shows at time with uneven map quality, but there's a lot of good stuff in there too. Gets pretty experimental at times, in good ways, and sometimes in maybe not so good ways.
Plutonia is much more brief, most of the levels aren't very big at all, and as opposed to TNT which can be described as being more 'adventure' focused, with the occasional long trek and lots of discovery, Plutonia is a lot more combat focused, setting you up against tough (but mostly fair) 'puzzles' of fighting based on clever usage of monsters.

Doom 64 is a bit different, but at the core basically remains the classic Doom experience, only there's all new levels with some nifty tricks and setups thanks to an upgraded engine, and its all clad in a dark and gritty aesthetic with gloomy ambient noise instead of music. It's quite well put together, and tries to do the most that it can in spite of the limitations of its target hardware.
Very much worth playing if you like the original games, particularly given that it's more accessible than ever in 2022.

>>8555058
I think that the new official ports actually have support for gyro controls. It's vanilla Doom though, so no looking up or down, but I figure if you're into the smoothness of gyro controls, then really smooth turning (together with a smooth analog stick for movement) may be more than enough for at least a proof of concept.

[Anonymous No.8555192]

>>8555127
>can't wait for people to add dramatic lore behind the keen easter egg in map 32
doomguy has keen's helmet on a skull in eternal

[Anonymous No.8555286]

Fixed my scripting dummy that I posted here like a year ago. So he works with source ports better.
https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=166090
Dunno if that link will work. Anyway, it's just a small dehacked alternative to voodoo dummies. It charges, and shoots and you can time it out with teleporters or tall doors. It can trigger like 5 things. Door open stays, door open wait close (once and repeating), lift lower wait raise.

It had to be tagged as counting toward kill % for it to work in GZDoom so you'll have to kill it with a crusher when you're done using it to run scripts.

[Anonymous No.8555287]

>>8555169
The ep3 ending splash screen was a pan from an idyllic meadow with some rabbits on it, and onto the burning city with the impaled head. It was obviously implied that the rabbit head was just from one of the wild rabbits seen on that meadow. Literally just a juxtaposition of an idyllic scene with extreme violence for cheap shock value.
Daisy was retconned into existence in ep4 for no reason. If you're looking for the source of the extreme pareidolia in conjuring up Doom lore from an off-hand line or image, it's not even nuDoom that started it, this shit started with episode 4 of the original game.

[Anonymous No.8555301]

>>8548293
Arrest
even terry wads are funny

[Anonymous No.8555321]

>>8555097
You can give it a go, I've added a bunch of tech textures, but with all the dirty nasty metal textures, don't be afraid of giving the player tetanus.

>>8555103
Uh, I might compile something for people to use if they want.

[Anonymous No.8555324]

>>8555287
>Daisy was retconned into existence in ep4 for no reason
It was just for humors sake. Most of the story is for no reason.
I just noticed my phone has a catalog of emoticons
|∵|

[Anonymous No.8555327]

>>8555324
Oh, but it didn't work. What a crying shame.

[Anonymous No.8555340]

Daily reminder that metal music midi doesn't belong in Doom

[Anonymous No.8555345]

>>8553803
>has not actually started the project at all
>>But I've committed to it!

[Anonymous No.8555421]

>>8552301
For a while I had an idea of a differently colored lost soul that has less health and explodes on death. I think it could open some interesting scenarios.
And also plasma zombie that release one such lost soul on death.

[Anonymous No.8555434]

>>8555421
fees like one of the RGA2 monsters, there's a pain elemental variant that shoots explody souls out exclusively and as you would expect if you are near the pain elemental as it dies you get blown the fuck up as well

[Anonymous No.8555456]

>>8555421
>>8555434
Sounds like pure suffering, much like everything even remotely related to Lost Souls

[Anonymous No.8555471]

>>8555287
>If you're looking for the source of the extreme pareidolia in conjuring up Doom lore from an off-hand line or image, it's not even nuDoom that started it, this shit started with episode 4 of the original game.
On this note, I found it odd how much that episode loved the lava floor. Besides Mt Erebus, I really had to dig for its use in the originals with how much episode 2 and 3 love their bloodpools.
I also seem to have a weird idea about where this episode takes place. I thought it was on Earth, which is where I would not expect it to have all these green marble demon keeps in lava lakes.

[Anonymous No.8555475]

>>8555421
https://files.catbox.moe/tsnqz5.wad

[Anonymous No.8555546]

idea for pinky design
like a centaur using the d3 pinky as a base for the "horse body" and the "upper" body part is like a regular pinky

[Anonymous No.8555598]

>>8553096
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Wolfendoom_(Wolfenstein)
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/WolfenDOOM_(Doom)

[Anonymous No.8555621]

>>8553194
A new game comes out with the following difficulty levels:
Nightmare difficulty
Very Hard difficulty
Hard difficulty
Medium difficulty
Easy difficulty
Very easy difficulty
Retarded difficulty
Baby difficulty
Amoeba difficulty
Journalist difficulty
How much seething?

[Anonymous No.8555698]

lol

[Anonymous No.8555736]

>>8554557
Really nice. Isn't there a DOOM retexture of Carmageddon's hell track? Should go well with it.

[Anonymous No.8555746]

>>8554557
Rip or tear amongst the populace... the choice is yours.

[Anonymous No.8555763]

>>8554123
Make a mod about the mexican civil war where the KKK helped mexico fight Ireland in Mexico.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War#Ku_Klux_Klan

[Anonymous No.8555764]

>>8554557
Get in loser, we're going shopping

[Anonymous No.8555765]

>>8555324

[Anonymous No.8555771]

>>8555698
Is that the guy that shot up new vegas?

[Anonymous No.8555781]

>>8555421
That's sort of similar to something I want to do, because I love the nightmarish Pain Elemental in Doom 64, but I think that something like that is a bit much for this project, I'm already very on the fence about the plasmaguy.

>>8555771
>shot up
>New Vegas
No, that was me, as The Courier, them motherfuckers had the gall to ban me from gambling further.

[Anonymous No.8555784]

>>8555781
Based Mailman.

[Anonymous No.8555789]

>>8555781
Nice.

[Anonymous No.8555805]

>>8555421
Missed this part:
>And also plasma zombie that release one such lost soul on death.
Jesus, no, that would be WAY too much.

>>8555456
It works great in Doom 64, where the Meatball spits two Souls at a time and four on death, and the Souls (now much more aggressive) actually explode on their death so you can't do the old Wirehanger maneuver on them without eating shit, making them actually really dangerous.

Midway did that because they couldn't have Archies, and they needed an elite monster to make the player go "Oh fuck!"
We have Archies though, so I feel it's less necessary, and so we can have normal Meatballs and use those accordingly. I know of some sadistic ways to use the vanilla ones as is anyway.

[Anonymous No.8555806]

>>8554557
Fleshcar.

[Anonymous No.8555810]

>>8555789
I raided and pillaged the Legion too, nobody was safe from my murderhoboing ways.

[Anonymous No.8555813]

>>8554557
Has there even been a Twisted Metal mod for DOOM?

[Anonymous No.8555910]

>>8555805
64 lost souls also die way more easily, it’s a nice balance.

[Anonymous No.8555997]

>>8549586
You wanna pump a faggot?

[Anonymous No.8556056]

>>8555340
lmao eat shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaZPVUbgxjI

[Anonymous No.8556163]

How comes Doom palette is so low on yellow? Why does it need so much shades of red?

[Anonymous No.8556190]

Mount Pain is not that hard.
Fuck BigMacDavis.

[Anonymous No.8556256]

>>8556163
Becuase he goes to hell, not the peepee dimension.

[Anonymous No.8556301]

>>8555736
Yes, a texture swap for the Splat Pack Castle.

[Anonymous No.8556308]

>>8556256

[Anonymous No.8556321]

>>8555047
>he still keeps a picture of his family with him ripped out,clearly remorseful that he could,'t save them,(or at least not be with them,knowing finalDOOM mentioned grandkids,so he's may not be starting over back at earth)
Okay... I can somewhat see the logic when some consider Final Doom to be canon for whatever reason or that Doomguy is the protagonist there, but what is up with "theory normies" like Midnight and their boner for his dead family? Like, it was never confirmed (not even close), but all of them are just "o-o-oh, it's so dramatic" when it facts its more cringe than anon having a meltdown about Half-Life.
>>8555127
>can't wait for people to add dramatic lore behind the keen easter egg in map 32
>Billy Blaze, also known as William Joseph Blazkowicz II, abandoned his alter ego "Commander Keen" and cripling depresion turned him into a man similar to Rip Blazkowicz: a racist & abusive father that hated his son. Doomguy met him his father in child form as Commander Keen because Hell wanted to mentally torture him be reminding him who Billy was and what he has ultimately become...
Are you happy now? I think I nailed the high quality standard of The Ancient Gods Part 2's narrative.

[Anonymous No.8556323]

>>8556256
Wait, so..... If Quake has a color palette that's abundantly brown, then that means.......

[Anonymous No.8556392]

>>8555621
Would be funny if Postal 2 didn't do the same thing 2 decades ago.

[Anonymous No.8556478]

>>8556190
>BigMacDavis
Microsoft Sam-ass voice.

>>8556321
>but what is up with "theory normies" like Midnight and their boner for his dead family?
They're midwit hack frauds with no imagination who think that's the only way to have depth.

[Anonymous No.8556548]

>>8556321
>Like, it was never confirmed (not even close), but all of them are just "o-o-oh, it's so dramatic" when it facts its more cringe than anon having a meltdown about Half-Life.
It’s a very low-hanging and “”emotional ; ;” retrofit, and they did the same thing for ranger in Champions.

[Anonymous No.8556581]

>>8555813
There were attempts at car mods.
This exists though: https://modus-interactive.itch.io/groaning-steel

[Anonymous No.8556629]

So which version of Doom Builder do people use now? I have an old version of GZDB but wasn't there some new thing a while back?

[Anonymous No.8556630]

>>8555286
turns out I broke it in chocolate.
fixed
https://www.mediafire.com/file/du71u82k9hreg6e/c_dummy4.zip/file
on the off chance anyone wants it

[Anonymous No.8556638]

Is Doom 1 & 2 worth buying or should I just pirate them since they’re so old? They’re always on sale and cheap

[Anonymous No.8556664]

>>8556638

[Anonymous No.8556729]

>>8556638
doom is freeware

[Anonymous No.8556781]

>>8555805
>Midway did that because they couldn't have Archies, and they needed an elite monster to make the player go "Oh fuck!"
Just found out Doom 64 has no archviles - damn that shit sucks

[Anonymous No.8556834]

"CHAINGUNNERS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this level before. There could be CHAINGUNNERS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare midriff. "I HATE CHAINGUNNERS" he thought. D_RUNNIN reverberated his entire head, making it pulsate even as the $9 berserker pack circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of hitscanners in the dark. "With IDCLIP, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.

[Anonymous No.8556842]

>>8556834
>$9 berserker pack
I fuckin' wish.

[Anonymous No.8556864]

>>8556834
doomguy lookin a little teapot-like in that edit

[Anonymous No.8556868]

>>8556256
Next community project: Doomguy goes to Peepee Dimension

[Anonymous No.8556874]

>>8556834
>With IDCLIP, you can go anywhere you want
That's the funniest fucking thing I've read all year.

[Anonymous No.8556892]

>>8556868
>Doomguy goes to Peepee Dimension
Also known as Terry Trap
>YOU'VE GOT NICE CHEEKS MY LITTLE BOY

[Anonymous No.8556898]

>>8556892
>Images you can hear
EEEEEEEEUUUUAGH!

[Anonymous No.8556905]

>>8556834
10/10

[Anonymous No.8556953]

Guys, give me more mappers like Nicolas Monti.
His stuff isn't enough to keep me going.

[Anonymous No.8556971]

>>8556629
I use Ultimate Doombuilder, does Vanilla, Limit Removing, Boom, MBF21, UDMF, and yet more. Handles just the same.

The fact that it let me turn off the Graf filter, unlike the GzDoombuilder (bugfix) I used before, is a big plus.

[Anonymous No.8556983]

>>8556953
monti's pretty unique, but you might find pcorf to be a passable alternative if you aren't already familiar

[Anonymous No.8556987]

>>8556729
Technically, no, but defacto, yes.

>>8556781
Too many frames, too little cartridge space (bigger cartridges would make the game more expensive to buy), also there may be some limitations in terms of what the engine could handle.

IIRC the Jaguar version, and the ports based on that, which is a lot of the old ports, couldn't cope with resurrecting monsters on the go, hence why Nightmare! is stripped out of all ports from back then (UV was sometimes labeled NM, however). I think D64 is actually pretty different, but there could still be memory constraints.
They did a lot of shit like making a lot of textures monochrome, then color tinting them, getting more visual variety, because cartridge real estate and RAM space was quite limited.

They really do the most they can, and it's actually pretty admirable that it still comes out good.

[Anonymous No.8556998]

>>8556983
I only played his map in THT, but yeah, I thought of him.
Thanks, will check his catalogue as well.

[Anonymous No.8557036]

>>8556987
Feels like all the weapons in 64 got some nice and slight buffs. The switching feels slightly faster, too.

[Anonymous No.8557048]

>>8556998
i'd also recommend struggle: antaresian legacy as another entry into 90s mapping aesthetics with modern skill and sensibilities

[Anonymous No.8557137]

Is prodoomer more tolerable on easy? Anyone try? The mod looks cool but i don't want to have to grind in a doom wad.

[Anonymous No.8557158]

>>8557137
Prodoomer is one of the worst wads ever made. Everything from its level design to its enemy design is pure fucking shit. Don't bother playing it.

[Anonymous No.8557162]

>>8557137
Playing on easy won't fix the horrendous level design, but the chances of getting killed by cheap encounters decreases significantly, which means you'll spend less time playing it

[Anonymous No.8557165]

Speaking of Doom 64. Is there a wad for the weapons and enemies (or just the sprites) for regular Doom 2? Would be a blast to play some wads with D64 stuff in it. Could imagine something like new gothic movement fitting the estetic

[Anonymous No.8557243]

>>8557165
Smooth Doom has options for 64's weapons.

[Anonymous No.8557248]

>>8546682
Why the fuck does KDiZD have so much imp clones that take more than 1 shotgun blast to kill?

[Anonymous No.8557257]

>>8557243
it does? Thank you anon!

[Anonymous No.8557289]

>every weapon should be useful, for reasons other than having separate ammo pools
>if two weapons share an ammo pool, one should never completely outclass the other
>every enemy should be capable of killing you in a reasonable amount of time, even low health fodder, giving a more important niche to your rapid fire weapons
which games or mods adhere to this philosophy
don't say blood

[Anonymous No.8557302]

>>8557248
Why the fuck does KDiZD have most of the things it does? It was made by Tormentor.

[Anonymous No.8557308]

>>8557289
Brutal Doom unironically.

[Anonymous No.8557314]

>>8557289
Hideous Destructor.
Project MSX.

[Anonymous No.8557319]

>>8557289
......blood

[Anonymous No.8557329]

>>8557289
I was going to say Amid Evil until that last one, fodder enemies are only ever threatening by volume in that game.

[Anonymous No.8557406]

>>8557289
>>8557314
Most appropriate answers

[Anonymous No.8557427]

fug, sprite glitch.

[Anonymous No.8557429]

>>8557427
Damn it. That's part of the Tech Monk's Pearl Laser. What WAD is that?

[Anonymous No.8557430]

>>8557429
eviternity.

[Anonymous No.8557436]

>>8557430
Oh shit, you might want to be careful, I've had bug reports of Eviternity just breaking when played with Combined_Arms, apparently due to SBARINFO stuff.

[Anonymous No.8557446]

How hard is making weapons for Doom?

[Anonymous No.8557453]

>>8557446
If you're making the sprites from scratch: Moderately difficult
If you're frankenspriting: Time consuming but not that hard
If you're just doing the code: Incredibly easy

[Anonymous No.8557463]

>>8557446
To further add to what that other guy said. It also depends on WHAT the weapon does. If it's a simple straight forward bang shootemup gun. It's gonna be pretty simple to do. When you start getting into shit like loading multiple different ammo types, or having the weapon interact with the environment or monsters in special ways... Then it gets hard.

[Anonymous No.8557484]

>>8557453
Is frankenspriting creating sprites from photos of extant 3d models and then slapping doomguy hands over them? That was kind of my plan.

[Anonymous No.8557494]

>>8557484
General term for mashing up existing sprites. 3D screenshots will need touchups to look natural, so it's more involved.

[Anonymous No.8557638]

>>8557446
What the other guy said, really depends on what you're doing, and your technique. Doom's tradition of centered weapons I find makes things a lot easier, because the perspective is generally very consistent and straightforward.

I largely frankensprite, but I end up drawing in details as well. Sometimes I'll take a shape from something I like, blank it out (maybe even deform it), and then paint in the detail.
A few helpful things to keep in mind, regardless of approach:
>1: Doom stretches pixels vertically by 20%, for some things you can actually ignore paying attention to this, but for things which are supposed to be round, it can be good to keep it in mind.
>2: In art, without a readily apparent light source present, light will shine onto objects from the upper left.
>3: Don't get too carried away with the 'length' of a weapon, it has to fit on screen and also line up reasonably with the shooting.
>4: To give surfaces texture, there's a lot you can do by duplicating the area (entire sprite even), throwing a filter onto that, then making that new filtered layer translucent, then you can also erase away parts on that top layer, either partially to create some kind of smooth visual, or in full because whatever got filtered didn't look good.
>5: You can also do things like draw in stuff like wood grain or scratches on metal (and wood, and plastic)) by using thin and faint single strokes of black or white.
>6: Something you can do for a surface which is supposed to have a non-gray color is to make it gray anyway while working on it, then working out the detail, then coloring it afterwards, you can also use multiple copied layers of the surface in different colors, say a more reddish hue or a more yellowish hue for a brown wood, then erase splotches from one laid above the other to have a more nuanced look.
>7: You can also do shine for muzzle flashes this way.
>8: If working within palette limitations, dithering can help a lot in some cases.

[Anonymous No.8557739]

I can't pistol start TNT map 29.

[Anonymous No.8557860]

>>8557427
What wads are these? Looks cool.

[Anonymous No.8557861]

>>8557860
Eviternity and Combined_Arms

[Anonymous No.8557906]

>>8555127
>people taking daisy's death in doom seriously is like when a movie trailer has a sad piano version of an 80's tv show's campy theme
I wish people stopped treating the nerdy programmers joke from 1993 like something that it isn't.
Same for "rip and tear" which is a page of a comic that became a meme precisely because it was shit.

[Anonymous No.8557914]

>>8549815
Underrated.

[Anonymous No.8557953]

>>8556301
Now that would be a nice op pic.

[Anonymous No.8558036]

>>8556478
>They're midwit hack frauds with no imagination who think that's the only way to have depth.
I get it, but they could've at least tried to come up with something different. That's one of the paradoxes of "theorycrafting": it implies that you supposed to come up with different scenarios and don't treat them as definitive truth, but in reality everyone just follows its own headcanon believe that it is in fact the reality.
>>8556548
>same thing for ranger in Champions
Not really the same. In Champions, Ranger has his family alive: he's just "far away". Although I understand that comparing cliches is pitty shit, I would rather pick this one again over "dead family" & gravitade towards it being the case as id Software never confirmed Doomguy's family status + certain quotes from the base game suggest that they're alright.
>>8557289
Uh-h-h... I would "Ion Fury", but not sure about that last line. Tried to use each weapon in different situation and technically enemies can be pretty deadly there (I played on Maximum Fury).

[Anonymous No.8558149]

>>8557638
Thanks anon. Think I might try making a simple chaingun replacement to see the process.

[Anonymous No.8558216]

NEW THREAD
>>8558210
>>8558210
>>8558210

[Anonymous No.8558317]

>>8557484
Frankenspriting can be plain looking at some sprite, thinking "Hey, that one part looks kind of neat." and cutting that out and using it to change another sprite. Or texture, for that matter.

[Anonymous No.8558319]

>>8557289
Immoral Conduct, after I'm done with it, which is prospected to be around 2036.

[Anonymous No.8558412]

>>8551640
I was legitimately amazed at how much better pistol starting felt when I tried it for Plutonia. Doom, until then, just felt like a bit of a slog and a monotonous shoot gallery once you get all the guns. Running pistol start made me realise just how much effort and design goes into any given map. It makes each map feel like a true journey, with the timings and flows conducted by an artist. Pistol start is truly the only way to play.
also before then, I never noticed how much map designers carefully place weapons, it was truly eye opening.

[Anonymous No.8558594]

>>8558036
>Not really the same. In Champions, Ranger has his family alive.
The “point” was making us care about the family, you petty picking shit.