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The most groundbreaking video games of all time

>> No.8536719

Fuck Eric Chahi

>> No.8536724

>>8536715
None of those games are good

>> No.8536727

No wonder games are in the shit state they're in looking at that top row

>> No.8536734

>>8536715
I believe it, not that they're ground breaking or the best but that the listed devs would pick these titles. Bit surprising how many Japanese devs picked Zelda, I would've expected a lot more cases of Western devs picking Zelda and Japanese devs picking Ultima and Wizardry, and there's indeed some of that going on but a surprising amount of Japanese devs went with Zelda.

>> No.8536736

>>8536724
Post three good games.

>> No.8536740

>>8536727
David Cage, Neil Druckmann, Del Toro, Peter Molyneux, Hidetaki Miyazaki & Amy Hennig all had ICO

>> No.8536743

>>8536724
Elite is good

>> No.8536763

>>8536715
the fuck is the one in the bottom left corner? my old man eyes cant read it.

>> No.8536783
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>>8536715
I never understood why people like ico so much, all the environments look exactly the same and the gameplay is just pressing 1 button to hit things with a stick until they stop respawning
the puzzles are quite creative but thats about it

>> No.8536784

>>8536715
The picture says "best" and your post says "groundbreaking," what were they actually asked?

>> No.8536824

>>8536784
Favorites

>> No.8536859

I've played and beaten Dragon Quest 1, and I have no idea why anyone would have it as their favorite game outside of biased nostalgia. Literally every other DQ is better, and the game itself is like a janky weird version of Ultima.

>> No.8536865

>>8536715
>carhack
It was Romero, though.

>> No.8536893

>>8536865
You have to let it go Romero.

>> No.8536907

>>8536763
oubliette

>> No.8536909

>>8536724
Why do you think the devs who answered these games don't make any good ones?

>> No.8536928
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>>8536909
>devs who answered these games don't make any good ones
With a list like this, let's not get too crazy alright?

>> No.8536984

>>8536859
>I'm ignorant of the historical context of my favorite hobby on fucking /vr/
Go back to /v/, seriously.

>> No.8536990

>>8536984
>the game itself is like a janky weird version of Ultima
He already knows more than you ever will.

>> No.8536993

>>8536990
>he thinks I don't know what Ultima is
Seriously? Man you /v/tards get dumber and dumber every day. Ultima isn't even a semi obscure series. If you know fucking anything about retro vidya you know what ultma is.

>> No.8537017
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>>8536715
Wasn't Another World a bad game?

>> No.8537018

>>8536993
As far as I'm concerned he's right, the first DQ isn't the best game even in it's own series, your /v/ boogeyman hunt is ridiculous. It's influence and impact on the Japanese gaming scene is beyond any grand statement I can make but for a personal best game it's a terrible pick, it looks like Tetsuya wasn't completely blinded by his nostalgia goggles either because he went with DQ III instead which I think makes more sense. I guess he must have also been ignorant of the first game's historical context. So is Yuji Horii who went with Wizardry and Ultima, wonder who that guy is, must have been a retard to not pick the first DQ huh.

>> No.8537021

>>8536859
>outside of biased nostalgia
That's literally what it is though. It's their personal favorites. Most of those games clearly came out years before the developers started making games, so they're games they loved when they were younger and which had a big impact on them. If someone asks you your favorite game, do you tell them the most recent one you loved or the one which you played the longest and loved the most when you were young?

>> No.8537031

>>8536715
>the best game ever
>your favourite game
>the most groundbreaking game of all time
It's complete bullshit, there are no actual sources to any of this, we don't even know what the question was and the sourced image was uploaded yesterday, you're an enormous faggot OP.

>> No.8537046

>>8536783
i never understood why people like tetris so much, there is only one environment and the gameplay is just pressing one button to rotate blocks. the puzzles are quite creative but thats about it

>> No.8537050

>>8537017
cinematic platformers have weird alien control schemes that at very foreign to the way we play games these days. the tight responsive controls of the mega man's of the world won out over the flashbacks of the world and it's kind of a relic from the 90's, a parallel vision of how the gaming industry could have gone.

>> No.8537107

>>8536984
>>8536993
Imagine being this much of an angry jarpiggy. DQ1 *is* a clone of Ultima, and most JRPGs are shit.

>> No.8537117

>>8536859
It's because no one wants to name a sequel unless it doesn't have a number in the title. It makes you sound not cool, because sequels feel inherently cheaper. That's why so many franchises across all forms of media constantly do shit like "Alien, Aliens, Alien: Resurrection." No one in that picture named a single game with a prosaic sequel number in the title. Why would anyone pick Diablo 1? Civilization 1?

>> No.8537125

>>8537050
Learn English you fucking imbecile.

>> No.8537130

>>8537050
Learn French you fucking retard.

>> No.8537137

>>8536715
A pretty good list.
I would add Street Fighter 2 and Pac-Man.

>> No.8537139
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8537139

>>8536715
The only games that remotely matter.

>> No.8537153

>>8536724
Ico's not really a good game but I can see where a lot of devs call it the greatest of all time.
I'm just surprised no one mentioned MGS

>> No.8537157

>>8536783
It was a launch PS2 title and has a bunch of character to it. The most stylistic game out there at the time and it felt very immersive due to sound design.
I don't think another game rivaled it until Journey came out, but that's even less of a game than Ico

>> No.8537160

>>8536928
His point still stands.

>> No.8537168

>>8536740
Peter Molyneux went to absolute shit the moment he found ICO. Another World created greatness and ICO destroyed it.

>> No.8537172

>>8537160
Contrarianism? Of course it does, there isn't much else it can do after all.

>> No.8537190

>>8536928
Other than Richard Garriott, Godd Howard, Molyneux, and Sid Meier, these faggots are literal nobodies. Phil Fish? David Szymanski? Come the fuck on.

>> No.8537191

>>8537046
completely uncomparable

>> No.8537195

>>8537190
I'll add Will Wright too.

>> No.8537196

>>8537157
>I don't think another game rivaled it until Journey came out
I did really like Journey actually, I always forget about that one
one of the few modern games I actually enjoyed

I didn't really like ico all that much although I never finished it

>> No.8537197

>>8537139
You're a nerd.

>> No.8537202

>>8537197
>nerd
Who cares. Those are objectively the only games in this list that actually created and defined their respective genres. You could swap Ultima Underworld with Dungeon Master though.

>> No.8537204

>>8536783
based illiterate autist

>> No.8537217

>>8536740
Literally all talentless hacks. No surprise they like the vacuous pretentious art game.

>> No.8537245

>>8537196
Every game by that developer was great. I hate modern games but I recently picked up a PS3 and played through their catalogue. Really cool stuff I gotta say

>> No.8537260

>>8537245
I played journey on ps4, coolest thing was I didn't realise it was online and what I thought was an npc accompanying me for hours turned out to be a real player
I was thinking they were way too responsive to my actions to be an ai and i eventually realised it was a real player
one of my most fun gaming experiences

>> No.8537272

>>8537139
>I'm 13 and my tastes are superior

>> No.8537286

>>8536724
It says groundbreaking, not necissariy good.

>> No.8537293

>>8536715
Chrono Trigger, King's Quest, Descent, Dune 2, Warcraft & Starcraft, Deus Ex, Halo, Crysis, Ultima, Morrowind, Daggerfall, Fallout, The Journeyman Project, Myst.

>> No.8537296

>>8536715
Tomb Raider, SOTN, FFVII, Pole Position, Street Fighter II, Mortal Kombat.

>> No.8537302

>>8536715
Tie Fighter/X-Wing, Gran Tourismo, Grand Theft Auto.

>> No.8537305

>>8536715
Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 3, Star Fox, Pitfall, Space Invaders, Tetris, Missile Command, Pong, Asteroids.

>> No.8537314

>>8537302
>Tie Fighter/X-Wing
Wing Commander with Star Wars skin.
And Wing Commander itself was basically Elite with the open world elements ripped out and replaced with some story stuff and cutscenes.

>> No.8537547
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8537547

You forgot one.
>first game with cutscenes
>first game with power-ups
>arguably the first video game character
>first video game to get a TV show
>also different game but Pac-Land was the first sidescrolling platformer and inspired Super Mario Bros.

>> No.8537609

>>8537305
Asteroids was just a simplified version of Space War!.

>> No.8537836

>>8536724
I doubt you even looked at the image.

>> No.8537862

>>8537139
forgot to circle wizardry, gramps

>> No.8537873

>>8537286
the only groundbreaking games on the list are Ultima Underworld, Doom, and Mario 64

>> No.8537886

>>8536719
not even close to the worst thing on that list

>> No.8538152

>>8536859
>the game itself is like a janky weird version of Ultima
DQ1 is literally Ultima with the weirdness and jank removed from it.

>> No.8538170

>>8538152
this, JRPGs were initially presented as RPGs but for the masses instead of autistic nerds

>> No.8538269

>no Final Fantasy VII
I’ll just disregard these trash oppinions.

>> No.8538295

>>8538152
It's literally Questron.

>> No.8538321

>>8536724
They hated him because he told them the truth

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8539064

>>8537046
It really is this easy to trigger Icofags.

Captcha: HD MOG

>> No.8539070

>>8537046
this but unironically. dr mario is way fucking better, tetris is braindead.

>> No.8539079

>>8536783
I don't think you realise what an idiot you are. Your post just comes across as filler.

>> No.8539103

>>8536715
Not joking but Altered Beast is better than all those games.

>> No.8539363

>>8539079
nice argument, completely disproves all the criticism I have about ico

>> No.8539369

>>8536715
>shadow of the colossus
I still don't get why this game is so highly praised, I get Ico but not SoTC

>> No.8539401
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>>8536715
Pic related isn't on the list so it's bullshit. Hydlide made the japanese videogame industry as it is. Also Wizardry isn't there either, and that has as much of an impact.

>> No.8539584

>>8537139
doom

>> No.8539608

>>8539584
Doom didn't innovate literally anything.

>> No.8539614

>>8539401
Why did japan base their entire industry on this godawful game?

>> No.8539620

>>8539103
Shadow of the Beast > Altered Beast

>> No.8539745

>>8537017
picrel is very based

>> No.8539748

>>8537017
>IGN
Cringe

>> No.8539749

>>8537139
Absolute shit
Good
Good
Never heard of it
Never heard of it

>> No.8539758

>>8539401
Wizardry is in the top row, retard

>> No.8539764

Care to explain why are you replying to a literal /v/ repost?

>> No.8539825

>>8536715
who are these "developers"

>> No.8539828

>>8539620
No it isn't due to how confusing it is. Altered Beast manages to get graphics, gameplay, difficulty and story just right. You can pick it up today and have a blast the same way somebody from the 80s was enjoying it. Unlike Ocarina of Time or Super Mario Sunshine that are full of unskippable cut scenes and stupid tutorials.

>> No.8539845

>>8539764
How did you know it's from /v/? Care to explain why you haven't fucked off back to /v/ yet?

>> No.8539883

>>8536715
What game is that next to ocarina of time?

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>>8537547
>first game with powerups

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>>8536715
Miyamoto.
Carmack.
Woodhead.
Brevik.
Matsuno.
Hollis.
Horii.
Braben.
Meier.
Garriot
Chahi
Schwaiger.

Kneel.

>> No.8539920

>>8539401
Looks like a Yes album

>> No.8540274

>>8539907
Brevik who? Anders brevik?

>> No.8540687

>>8539895
Name a game before Pac-Man to have power-ups.

>> No.8540725

>>8537157
>It was a launch PS2 title
No it wasn't. The US release came out Sep '01, which was almost a year after the PS2's US launch.

>> No.8540737

>>8536715
Richard Garriot didn't do Ultima Underworld though? He was too busy working on Ultima VII at the time. Besides Underworld was being made by Looking Glass (then Blue Sky) who had no real connection with Origin other than them publishing the game. At least put Doug Church, Paul Neurath or Warren Spector on there as the designer.

>> No.8540752

>>8540737
He voiced a character in the opening.
He also didn't create Questron yet he forced the developers to credit him.

>> No.8540764

>>8540752
And he barely worked on Ultima VII if I recall correctly. Also despite creating the Stygian Abyss he somehow managed to fuck up pronouncing it in Underworld's opening. I love Ultima Underworld but that intro has some truly awful voice acting, not quite Jill Sandwich levels of bad but still.

>> No.8540784

I think i remember seeing ico in video game magazines.
Just seemed werid to me. I never played it.

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>>8540274

>> No.8540971

>>8540687
Space invaders or Galaxian