/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8521256]

Want to play Rayman 2, which version should I try?

[Anonymous No.8521274]

N64

[Anonymous No.8521281]

>>8521274
Based, fpbp, and /thread

[Anonymous No.8521289]

>>8521256
Dreamcast>PS2>N64>>>the rest

[Anonymous No.8521442]

Whatever you do, don't play the PS2 version which runs like shit or the PS1 version which is missing content from all the other versions.

[Anonymous No.8521471]

>>8521256
Dreamcast or N64

[Anonymous No.8521842]

>>8521256
dreamcast

[Anonymous No.8521850]

>>8521289
Would change n64 und ps2 but dreamcast is based

[Anonymous No.8521880]

>N64 - Original version. MIDI soundtrack sucks. No reason to play it when the PC version exists.
>PC - Straight upgrade from the N64 version, but without any of the design changes of later ports.
>PS1 - Removed a lot of content, but also has some new content and voiceacting. Worth checking out for hardcore fans.
>Dreamcast - Has a few improved textures, some new minigames, and replaces the Hall of Doors with the Isle of Doors, but there are some questionable design changes like adding more combat and reducing the difficulty of certain platforming sections. Overrated IMO.
>PS2 - Essentially a remake. It plays so differently from the original that most people will either love or hate it. I personally prefer the original.

[Anonymous No.8521881]

Dreamcast is the definitive version.

[Anonymous No.8521889]

>>8521880
Forgot to mention that the graphical changes in the Dreamcast version, particularly lighting, sometimes fucks with the original atmosphere

[Anonymous No.8521896]

>>8521889
You should get yourself checked for covid. As you seem to be tasteless.

[Anonymous No.8521906]

>>8521889
>>8521896
btfo'd lmao

[Anonymous No.8521907]

>>8521896
Rayman 2 is loved for its gloomy atmosphere. The Dreamcast version uses brighter lighting, which reduces the gloominess.

[Anonymous No.8521916]

>>8521256
64 as it is 240p and it feels like a 64 game
If you play it on DC or PS2 it will feel dated

[Anonymous No.8522118]

>>8521256
DS

[Anonymous No.8522128]

>>8522118
This board is 18 years and up.

[Anonymous No.8522178]

>>8521256
>>8521274
>>8521281
>>8521289
>>8521850
>>8521842
>>8521471
>>8521881
>>8522118
>>8521916
PC retards

>>8521889
>>8521907
there's barely if any, graphical difference between the PC and Dreamcast versions

[Anonymous No.8522181]

>>8521274
This is the one

[Anonymous No.8522221]

>>8521880
The only exhaustive and rational reply on this shitty thread.

[Anonymous No.8522227]

Sega and Nintendo drones fanboys trying to ruin a thread once again.
What a shitty attitude.

[Anonymous No.8522232]

PS1 version removed a lot of chaff which is great.

[Anonymous No.8522260]

>>8521880
Based and correct.

[Anonymous No.8522323]

>>8521907
This is one of the dumbest fucking things on this board

[Anonymous No.8522336]

>>8522323
No it isnt. He's right. It's the reason the PS2 remake is trash.

OP, PC version

[Anonymous No.8522871]

>>8522227
t. butthurt sonytroon that his precious gaystations didn't receive a good port of Rayman 2

[Anonymous No.8522890]

>>8521256
GBC, obviously.

[Anonymous No.8522957]

PC is just a better N64 version. I like Dreamcast best though.

[Anonymous No.8523324]

I've long since accepted that any thread made on /vr/ abour Rayman 2 is simply just bait to lure in that one Brazilian obsessed with proving the PS2 version was the best one.

[Anonymous No.8523752]

>>8521274
The only right answer

[Anonymous No.8524191]

>>8522871
You're stupid, i don't give a fuck about playstation, acutally i don't even like it anymore nowadays, you stupid fuckers are shitting up thread after thread with your consolefagging war bullshit, curb yourself.

[Anonymous No.8524215]

>>8521256
Nintendo DS

[Anonymous No.8524220]

>>8521256
Dreamcast by a country mile

[Anonymous No.8524224]

>which version of Rayman 2 did you play when you were 8

[Anonymous No.8524784]

>>8521880
>>8521889
I believed when Ubisoft worked on Rayman 2, they were making a different version until someone walked in and told them that they had to make it on the N64, this meant they had to downscale textures and reduce polygon count drastically. Later on they reinserted them back into the Dreamcast version. I honestly don't get all the praise coming from the N64 version. Aesthetically it's worse and the midi soundtrack is terrible. I think most of the tards here are a little biased.

[Anonymous No.8525008]

Dreamcast since its rock solid 60fps and supports vga 480p, others are capped to 30fps and frequently drops, with DS version(DS version, NOT 3ds) being the worst where it runs 5fps on average.

3DS (3ds version, NOT DS) is also decent if you play it on hacked new 3ds/2ds with overclocking on, that way you get stable 60fps but it has some minor bugs/annoyances and you cant get 1000th lum without damage boost as one of the bouncy surfaces acts like flat ground.

N64 is decent enough if you can stand the typical n64 ~20fps framerates, midi music and somewhat worse graphics.

[Anonymous No.8525016]

>>8525008
Why go for the n64 version, the pc version is the same just better.
But best is definitely the dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.8525074]

>>8525016
are we talking about playing the PC version on modern PC or in hardware of its time? Because the PC port is pain in the ass to get running properly with shitty controller support and weird-ass default keyboard mappings. Sure there are mods and patches to fix it, but its hassle. Plus some of the patches dont work under windows 98se last time I tired or only worked with the GOG version and not with the original physical release.

[Anonymous No.8525110]

>>8525074
I didn't know that.
Sounds like it would be easier to just emulate the DC version then.

[Anonymous No.8525251]

>>8525008
>the PC port is pain in the ass to get running properly
Works fine on my system

[Anonymous No.8525286]

>>8525074
>weird-ass default keyboard mappings
have you ever played pc games before?

>>8525251
For controllers he said

[Anonymous No.8525380]

>>8521256
Dreamcast on emulator with upscaling, it looks absolutely incredible and it has the real music (contrary to the N64).

[Anonymous No.8526906]

what's meant to be wrong with the PS2 version? Isn't it just the dreamcast version with actual voice acting and a few bonus games?

[Anonymous No.8527057]

>>8526906
it was rebuilt in a new engine that while looking better, has terrible performance, some of the worst framerate drops of any version.
also, extremely long load times and 480i.

[Anonymous No.8527157]

pretty impressive that they managed to get this running on the pile of shit that is the n64

[Anonymous No.8527597]

PS2
>but muh lag
on PCSX2
Dreamcast removes the soul and charm PS2 have. Otherwise it just feels like the "HD" version of Mario 64, which the original N64 version of R2 felt like. Revolution made it feel like it's own game.

[Anonymous No.8527604]

>>8521880
>>8521889
>>8521907
Holy based, I wasn't wrong when I said DC ruined the charm.

[Anonymous No.8527672]

DC or N64. Avoid the PS1 and DS ports. Haven’t played Revolution

[Anonymous No.8527718]

>>8527057
damn. Does it at least have the extra bosses they put in the ps1 version to make up for half the levels being missing?

[Anonymous No.8527725]

>>8527597
>having to resort to emulation to fix your shitty version's problems

holy cope, batman

[Anonymous No.8527764]

>>8521880
>>8521880
>>8521880

>Dreamcast is the best looking, highets resolution and most complete version of the n64/PC port
>PS2 has retarded voice acting and they added a bunch of dumb padding shit though the 3D overworld map is kinda unique
>PC is the version that's fucking ridiculous to run unless you know what a glide wrapper does and you know how to install it without a CD (its why people get the GOG version)
>N64 is okay
>PS1 port shouldn't have been made.

[Anonymous No.8527779]

>>8527764
Physical PC copies trigger an anti-piracy measure on newer OSs.

[Anonymous No.8527859]

>>8527725
>>8527725
>having to resort to emulation
I don't need it, just compensating for the zoomers seething over it.

[Anonymous No.8527959]

>>8527859
whatever. enjoy your butchered port, ps2cuck.

[Anonymous No.8528228]

>>8527959
>t. N64 virgin

[Anonymous No.8528254]

>>8528228
nah, I'm a DreamChad.
But even so, the N64 has stabler framerates than the shitty PS2 port. That's sad.

[Anonymous No.8528527]

>>8527959
>whatever. enjoy your butchered port, ps2cuck.
I did, 20 years ago.

[Anonymous No.8528595]

>>8521256
DS version is the quintessential Raykino

[Anonymous No.8529264]

>tfw playing on ps2 and n64, just enjoying rayman 2
only port i dont like is ps1

[Anonymous No.8529278]

PC version has the kino hall of doors
DC has some shitty generic island level select
'nuff said

[Anonymous No.8529317]

>>8524191
No.

[Anonymous No.8529359]

>>8529264
cause in the end you can enjoy whatever the fuck you want
but shitting up threads like anon >>8529317 here is shitty attitude
you won't even discuss some facts
you're just some drone

[Anonymous No.8529402]

PC, Dreamcast, PS2
Avoid all other versions

[Anonymous No.8529786]

>>8529402
PS2 should be avoided as well. The pointless hub world they added as filler doesn't make up for all the technical issues with that trash version.

[Anonymous No.8529943]

>>8529786
How about no

[Anonymous No.8529983]

Obtain the GOG Version and apply Ray2Fix.

[Anonymous No.8530134]

okay but rayman ps1/saturn or redemption?

[Anonymous No.8532078]

>install GOG version of Rayman 2
>doesnt work
>install ray2fix
>doesnt work
>manually set it up with mods per PCGW
>doesnt work
>fuck it, i'll emulate the dc version
>sure, dc emulation is better than what i remember
>recommended emulator is flycast in retroarch
>get retroarch setup
>verified bios pack from wiki
>good GDI dump
>doesnt work
>check my modded ps2 to see if i put it on there when i loaded my hdd up
>it's there
>it werks
guess i'm playing the ps2 version

[Anonymous No.8532104]

>>8532078
try it again in Redream
don't torture yourself with that crap ps2 port

[Anonymous No.8532120]

>>8532078
Best emu for Dreamcast is Redream. If you want to, you can put a little money into the dev team and you get access to widescreen and HD textures, even though it should be available to everyone but whatever. Runs basically everything too without any hassle and disc swapping is not an issue in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.8532169]

>>8532104
>>8532120
After spending four hours trying to get shit working, no, I'm content with what I have that works. I also just refuse to pay for emulator functions which is why I don't use yuzu.

[Anonymous No.8532198]

wtf was ubi's deal with making different games for each port?

[Anonymous No.8532204]

>>8532078
why not try redream? it's pretty user friendly, sorta like dolphin

[Anonymous No.8532260]

>>8532169
>"I'm lazy so I'll stick with an inferior gaming experience also I wear diapers and poop my pants"

cool, thanks for letting us know.

[Anonymous No.8532286]

>>8532260
I just don't want to wast my fucking time anymore with emulators and bullshit that may or may not work when I could just play the game.

[Anonymous No.8532293]

>>8532286
>>8532260
If it makes you feel any better, if I had an actual Dreamcast, I'd probably play it on there.

Alternatives I can play are DS and PS1, but the impression I got was that PS2 was a better option than those.

[Anonymous No.8532294]

Theres a prototype of Rayman 2 hidden on the ps1 port. only real reason to get it desu. But you could just watch a clip of it on yt. I kinda like the look of it.

[Anonymous No.8532296]

>>8532286
>download ReDream
>run it
>it works

That’s literally all you have to do. The paid functions are entirely optional and only make the game look slicker, which you absolutely do not need considering most DC games look totally fine as is. I understand wanting to stick with what you have now for this one game, but sticking with an inferior choice after that isn’t a good decision

[Anonymous No.8532312]

>>8532296
I just don't want to download or fuck with things anymore. Simple as. Resolution scaling shouldn't be a hidden pay feature, regardless of optionallity, especially if you're not going to include shader functionality for native res output.

[Anonymous No.8532326]

>>8532296
>ReDream
>it works
redream sucks, it fucks up the sound on shenmue and you can't change any settings to correct it
I use flycast instead

[Anonymous No.8532342]

>>8532294
>Reach 90% of the game just to unlock one unfinished level when you could just play first game.
NGMI

[Anonymous No.8534396]

>>8530134
Jaguar

[Anonymous No.8534587]

>>8530134
Redemption if you don't want to put a ton of time in, PS1 if you do.

Personally I prefer PS1 but I just don't have the time to spend on it.

[Anonymous No.8534881]

i'm the full retard lazy guy from yesterday. decided to try and get pc version working again. turns out my mistake was trying to get it working on windows. installed and setup in wine under linux and it works perfectly.

[Anonymous No.8535051]

>>8534881
based. gnu/linux chads just can't stop WINNINGG

[Anonymous No.8535352]

>>8535051
Works pretty good, too. Now to get Rayman 3 working.

[Anonymous No.8536330]

>>8535352
>linux has rayman 2
fuck it im switching, where can i learn this autistic black magic?

[Anonymous No.8536341]

I don't know why people are shitting on the PS2 version, it runs at 60fps and looks great. It has the same sort of game play as the original versions just with all the benefits of being on an at-the-time next gen console.

Seems like the best version to me.

[Anonymous No.8536342]

>>8536341
because this board is filled with retards that mouth breathe and jerk it while they play the worst possible versions and go out of their way to force people to share in their misery
its pretty much widely accepted that dreamcast is definitive, where ps2 is just below it due to its buggy nature and most people are so brain damaged they cant handle the ""open world"" hub that honestly takes like 2 seconds to navigate and looks beautiful anyway. Anyone recommending anything else is just a retard or nintentoddler level retard.

[Anonymous No.8536360]

>>8536341
bad controls and loading screens EVERYWHERE. Also shitty voice acting instead of the soulful Raymanese

[Anonymous No.8536362]

>>8536360
>bad controls
>literally the same as every other console wtf does that even mean
>loading screens only point
>shitty voice acting
>that you can turn off
this is what i mean by retards

[Anonymous No.8536365]

>>8536342
It doesn't seem remotely buggy either. As for performance issues this is the worst I've seen it get. It genuinely seems like the best version.

>>8536360
loading screens are a couple of seconds long and the controls are great. Just like regular Rayman 2 but with the god tier ps2 stick.

[Anonymous No.8536370]

>>8536362
Turning the voice acting off doesn't replace it with Raymanese. Also the controls fucking suck because you can't even move the camera with the right stick. It's embarrassing that a PS2 game was released without that feature.

[Anonymous No.8536373]

>>8536370
>you can't even move the camera with the right stick
Click the stick in for first person camera looking, otherwise the camera controls the same exact way in every other version. Does every version have bad camera controls? What are you even trying to say?

[Anonymous No.8536376]

>>8536373
If you're comparing the controls of Rayman 2 to other PS2 games, then yes they're fucking bad. PS2 emulation is shit anyways. Just stick with the PC or Dreamcast version.

[Anonymous No.8536381]

>>8536376
I'm comparing them to other versions of Rayman 2 because they're all the same controls you fucking idiot. Why emulate? we're on /vr/, we all have the real hardware.

[Anonymous No.8536421]

Dreamcast, unless the PS2 version's framerate doesn't bother you.
N64 is okay but there's not much reason to play it unless you want the MIDI SOUL
PC is kind of a lesser Dreamcast version
DS is just an ass version of the N64 version
PS1 changes so much it may as well be its own game, save for later
3DS is a busted-ass version of the Dreamcast version with bitcrushed sound, busted 3D, a jank framerate and it's (almost) impossible to get 100% due to a glitch

[Anonymous No.8536436]

>>8536342
Why do bitchfucks get filtered by "open world" like you said? It makes games feel like a fictional reality instead of ping pong tier video game. It's immersive. it means you get to care about the world you're playing in, and actively want to protect from the main bad guy

People that play games like it's a checklist are soulless.

[Anonymous No.8536482]

>>8536436
"Immersion" is fucking boring, that's the reason. Games are supposed to provide a challenge for you to overcome, not a simulation of life for you to escape to because you wanna forget about how pathetic and hollow your life is and do nothing at all to improve yourself.

Also, Pong > any of the sandbox garbage you enjoy. You just hate it because you have no friends to play it with.

[Anonymous No.8536554]

>>8536482
>"Immersion" is fucking boring, that's the reason
Soulless, holy shit. No wonder you talk like a /v/ermin. You should go back.

[Anonymous No.8536621]

>>8521274
retard alert. PC is the best.

[Anonymous No.8536627]

>>8527725
a broken piece of shit emulator at that

[Anonymous No.8536695]

>>8535352
Little bit too blurry for my liking. Looks way better with texture filtering disabled.

[Anonymous No.8536895]

>>8536360
>Also shitty voice acting instead of the soulful Raymanese
You can select Raymanese in the options menu, though.

[Anonymous No.8536897]

>>8536554
>Soulless
>No wonder you talk like a /v/ermin.
Pffffttt hahahaha

[Anonymous No.8537049]

>>8532326
Works for me. Try the developer builds instead of stable which was released 2 years ago.

[Anonymous No.8537184]

>>8537049
fairs, I prefer flycast anyway since you can fiddle with the settings if there's any issues