Retrotink 5x

[Anonymous No.8511994]

better than using a CRT

[Anonymous No.8512024]

better than using OPs mom

[Anonymous No.8512178]

>>8511994
Why the gay ass name?

[Anonymous No.8512192]

>free CRTs with YPbPr input
Get rekt kid.

[Anonymous No.8512276]

>>8512192
>bragging about being a poorfag

[Anonymous No.8512292]

>>8511994
>can't remove the lag
>it's shit

yea....nah i'm good with my PVM 20L5

[Anonymous No.8512457]

>>8512292
>PVM
Call me when you're a consumer set chad and not using worn out broadcast monitors because some guy told you it was the way.

[Anonymous No.8512514]

>>8512457
>cope

[Anonymous No.8512876]

>>8512292
What lag? for what it can do (motion adaptive deinterlacing) it actually adds less lag than other upscaling options like playing a ps2 game on ps3.

[Anonymous No.8512885]

>>8509528

[Anonymous No.8513069]

>>8512876
It's based on line-doubling (or quintupling in this case) and should have no lag when not interlace blending/buffering like his other devices you daft cunt, but because of numbskull slack-jawed retards like yourself with reflexes in another timezone, he thinks it's OK to just leave lag always on for convenience.

It's just lowering standards back in the direction to the shitty NES-on-a-chip trash we had 15 years ago with "heh it's good enough for idiots to give me money for" hack mentality. Worst part is when people like RetroRGB, who's been very strict with laggy devices and usually trashing them hard, suddenly 180s and is like "um guise, heh, so who cares about constant lag anyways, right heh?" when reviewing the 5x shattering the credibility he has built up over the years. Mike must give some amazing head or something.

It's just so frustrating because the 5x is perfect (especially with the composite option and after the Christmas update!) EXCEPT for the fact it ADDS LAG when there is absolutely no reason it should just playing 8-bit & 16-bit consoles with no interlacing.

[Anonymous No.8513147]

>>8511994
May as well just emulate, you'll get the clear picture you're after without shitty upscalers.

[Anonymous No.8513164]

>>8513069
I thought that any sort of upscaling would cause lag, though if he can get rid of it he definitely should since it is an expensive device.

[Anonymous No.8513247]

I have a 2x-mini and I'm pretty happy with it, but I never would have bothered to buy an upscaler in this first place if my modern TV had composite, component or s-video. I probably still would have held off but my friends like when I bring retro stuff over to their places sometimes. I'm still stuck using my PS2 with my Sony SSM but, like, oh no. I have to use a CRT sometimes still. Not a big deal.

>>8513147
This could just be sunk costs speaking here, but I prefer the way my consoles look through my upscaler to how they look emulated. Obviously not a dealbreaker, though.

[Anonymous No.8513267]

>>8512292
>PVM

Just tell us you spent your trust fund on an inferior tiny screen because a balding tech illiterate basedtuber told you to when you could have just gone to the curb to get something bigger and better for free

[Anonymous No.8513274]

>>8513164
nope, the 2x doesn't have any lag, 0 frames.
all it does is convert the signal to hdmi and upscale it to 480p (or not, it can also do passthrou).

[Anonymous No.8513361]

>>8513164
It's true that upscaling will add lag no matter what, but the type of upscaling here is line-doubling that is capable of sub-millisecond latency and in the OSSC and the other RetroTink scalers the latency is measured in NANOSECONDS, that's the actual range the human brain consciously struggles to register impactful differences and is what often gets accepted as being practically zero lag.

The thing that will add lag for sure no matter what is the de-interlacing process where the device will have to do some work to produce the intended picture, but this is only needed for interlaced material (some PS2, GCN, Dremcast stuff etc) and should not be impacting anything else, which is why it's so fucked up that it does in the RetroTink 5x Pro that is otherwise just pure perfection.

>>8513147
If you are just using flash carts and RGB cables in pursuit of the clearest image possible, then yeah it's pretty much pointless to go through all the struggle to just ending up with things looking like it's emulated on PC anyways. But PCs and emulation boxes based on the Raspberry Pi or hacked retro "mini-consoles" will still have latency issues, so the best option is then to go with FPGA based devices like those from Analogue or the all-in-one MiSTer project that will feed the bit-perfect system logic digital-to-digital straight to your monitor without analog conversion delay or emulation overhead.

For me, I have the Analogue systems and the MiSTer, but I actually prefer the dirty composite look, sound and feel and that's something you honestly only get right with real hardware at this point and combined with the shadowmasks on the 5x it starts to look real close to my CRTs ...problem is again that fucking lag though breaking the whole illusion and bringing it back a feel closer to emulating on PC with CRT filters.

[Anonymous No.8513443]

>>8513361
So why wont the guy who makes it release an update that lets you disable the lag? It should be easy right? makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.8513464]

>>8511994
>better
no, it's pretty good though

[Anonymous No.8513468]

>>8512292
>PVM

Dude just get a Trinitron from a charity store.

[Anonymous No.8513482]

>>8513468
>People like different things
wow, who knew

[Anonymous No.8513505]

>>8513468
I found owning a broadcast monitor worth it because they're more likely to support S-video and you can easily flip them into portrait orientation for games that support it. If you go with other brands than Sony and check out electronics recycling centers you don't even have to pay too much for them.

[Anonymous No.8513569]

>>8513069
>It's just so frustrating because the 5x is perfect (especially with the composite option and after the Christmas update!) EXCEPT for the fact it ADDS LAG when there is absolutely no reason it should just playing 8-bit & 16-bit consoles with no interlacing.
It'll definitely be interesting to see how the PixelFX morph pans out, whether it'll have less lag and similar features or not. Weird that it accepts BNC inputs though.
https://twitter.com/PixelFXco/status/1479553218770354192/photo/1

[Anonymous No.8513852]

>>8512292
The image on those do look sharp but god that line spacing is cancer, especially with how small the screens are. Are they really that bad IRL?

[Anonymous No.8513857]

>>8512292
What game

[Anonymous No.8513860]

Wouldn't a hypothetical 9x scaler be ideal for 240p content? For a 4k tv anyways

[Anonymous No.8513869]

>>8513569
I think the BNC inputs are more for interfacing with the modular switcher (which can do anything from HDMI to SCART to composite) they are also releasing, which is cool as long as the pieces aren't crazy expensive.

[Anonymous No.8513972]

>>8513482
I got a Sony 14M4U for free years ago after seeing a similar PVM from someone on /a/ and thinking it was cool. After a couple months of casually searching, I found an old couple who were giving a bunch away after retiring from their wedding photography business. I thought it was great for a desktop setup when I was in university, and even when I was in my first tiny ass apartment. But after buying a house, I came to appreciate having a dedicated setup with a huge screen. Both were great depending on where I was in life.

>>8513505
Literally every consumer TV I've seen that is (a) over 21" and (b) made after 1995 has supported S-video.

>>8513852
No, they look really good from a couple of feet away. But... good consumer sets also look good from a distance, they just don't have MUH SCANLINES up close.

[Anonymous No.8514026]

>>8513972
>they just don't have MUH SCANLINES up close.
mine does at 27 inch, even on composite

[Anonymous No.8514092]

>>8511994
>google this thing
>300 FUCKING USD

Bro just buy a fucking CRT at that point

[Anonymous No.8514103]

>>8513860
I think there'd be a point to where upscaling at that point would matter less and less. It's not gonna make early 3D games look that much better, and I doubt 2D games would benefit any.

[Anonymous No.8514128]

>>8513267
no it was free off faceborg

[Anonymous No.8514182]

>>8511994
For me it's FRAMEMEISTER. Not gay retrotwink shit.

[Anonymous No.8514194]

>>8513972
>Literally every consumer TV I've seen that is (a) over 21" and (b) made after 1995 has supported S-video.
I know that, but I wanted something smaller that had S-video. I also really can't overstate how much I appreciate the thing having completely flat sides so that I can flip it 90° if need be.

[Anonymous No.8514217]

>>8514182
>lagmaster
just get a retroscaler2x, retrotink2x clone but for a fair price.

[Anonymous No.8514681]

>>8513569
>BNC
and dropped.

[Anonymous No.8514690]

>>8513267
I bought my PVM for $80 in 2012 retard lmao. I also have a D20F1U I got for $200 in 2013.

[Anonymous No.8514691]

>>8513852
You're an idiot who has never seen one in person, of course it looks like that up close but it's gorgeous when you're sitting at a normal distance from it.

[Anonymous No.8514709]

>>8513267
cope from someone who didn't get one before influencers shit the market up, people were getting these far before youtubers were praising them zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.8514713]

>>8514691
You're really that insecure about someone asking about how the line spacing looks in person that you have to bust out ad homs? What's a normal viewing distance from a 13' screen? One meter? Maybe less?

[Anonymous No.8514717]

>>8514713
>PVM 20L5
>13 inch screen
actual retard

[Anonymous No.8514728]

>>8514717
Forgive me for not being knowing the screen size of every make and model. Do you need a clean bib?

[Anonymous No.8514739]

>>8514728
No, it just makes you illiterate. Nowhere did I mention 13", your confusion was your own stupidity.

[Anonymous No.8514751]

>>8514739
And I didn't make a value judgment with my question. Didn't stop you from having to chime in even though this anon>>8513972 answered my question without being condescending.

[Anonymous No.8514863]

>>8512192
the /g/ is leaking

[Anonymous No.8514887]

>>8513267
>how to say you arrived late to the party without saying you're late to the party

[Anonymous No.8514914]

>>8514103
I know for emulation a 9x integer scale looks better then a 5x on a 4k display. Remember, if you feed a display anything but a 4k feed it's getting scaled so if you only do a 5x scale to 1080p or even 1440p the display or in this case the GPU will scale it to 4k.

[Anonymous No.8514919]

>>8514217
based chinks

[Anonymous No.8515030]

>>8513069
I thought it was supposed to only have a couple of lines of lag but its sounds like some modes could have lag, I have been lied to.
I also use 8bit do blutooth controllers on a crt and can't tell the diff between wired.

[Anonymous No.8515067]

>>8514217
No thanks. I'll take the best deinterlacer in the business and no variable input latency thank you.

[Anonymous No.8515120]

>>8515030
>8bit do blutooth controllers
In a best case scenario with a 1000hz poll rate their various models run from 4.5ms to 137ms latency, and wireless always will have variable latency.

Listen, if you can't feel the difference, it's still fun to play and you can afford to shell out the cash for the kit instead of going with emulators and probably getting the same (or less) latency then you're probably fine, not everyone is a sweaty cocksucker looking to 1CC every game or autistically sensitive to "game-feel".

The issue is however that the lag on the RetroTink 5x Pro should be completely unnecessary on non-interlaced games, even if you don't notice it but ESPECIALLY if do, and for the price you want the best, no compromises. Then there's the semi-militant deference-force you see on twatter and on forums attacking anyone asking why this is and RetroRGB publicly bending the knee and taking Mikes lag-rod firmly up the ass, it all seems so dirty and rotten somehow.

[Anonymous No.8515124]

>>8514217
If they make a 5x clone but with no lag I would unironically buy one, I mean that would be something lol.

[Anonymous No.8515126]

I play oldass games on my 55" flat screen without any filter upscale bullshit and don't give a fuck

[Anonymous No.8515164]

>>8515126
based

[Anonymous No.8515173]

>>8512292
>PVM
Soulless
>1702
Soul

[Anonymous No.8515197]

>>8515126
>le epic troll
>>8515164
>and samefag
cringe

[Anonymous No.8515204]

I can appreciate consumer sets but lets be real, where else but PVMs can you find a non-flat tube+rgb/component inputs on a smaller/practical form size. The pro-level quality is just a bonus.

[Anonymous No.8515216]

>>8515197
>same fag

[Anonymous No.8515219]

>>8515204
Sony WEGA's. I love my PVM and JVC, but my 27" Wega is still great and I bought it in 2005 and it still works now. It has some bowing in the corner a bit, but looks amazing still and accepts component. You can even RGB mod them.

[Anonymous No.8515229]

>>8515204
Ahem. It's actually S-video max and you need an adapter because it's split across two RCA inputs. But the picture quality is really high.

[Anonymous No.8515308]

>>8515229
Based and 80's pc monitor-pilled.

>>8515204
You can find consumer sets that are smaller with s-video. They're kind of hard to find but they're not unobtainium. 4:3 plasma displays on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.8515339]

>>8512276
>>8512192
>Lol you pay for food? I just eat out of dumpsters and pick the undigested food out of animal feces. Get rekt kid.
The best part is you can’t figure out why you can’t get laid.

[Anonymous No.8515358]

>>8515339

[Anonymous No.8515360]

>>8515204
>>8515219
MY bad anon, didn't see the NON FLAT, I thought you meant flat.

I rather like my JVC DT V17 pro monitor tho. It's the only one I got that's flat tubed but it looks amazing.

[Anonymous No.8515362]

>>8515360

[Anonymous No.8515363]

>>8515339
This is what the creeping dread of buyer's remorse looks like. Sorry you paid the hipster tax for your setup, anon.

[Anonymous No.8515383]

>>8515197
Go back to plebbit where you came from, incel troll

[Anonymous No.8515389]

>>8515358
whatever helps you sleep at night
>>8515363
Huh? Who do you think you’re talking to retard? Which of the 33 posters here is your nonsense, samefag response meant for because it’s not me. You fat fucks are too stupid too much. Lose weight. Have sex.

[Anonymous No.8515426]

>>8515389
You sound seriously unhappy.

[Anonymous No.8515436]

>>8515389
>you fat fucks are too stupid too much
Behold the eloquence of a superior intellect gifted with a silver-tongue.

[Anonymous No.8515542]

I'm a eurofag, things used to suck in europe back in the days because of fucking PAL releases. Playing PAL releases of metal gear or silent hill sucked so much I had to get that shit chipped and pirate that shit. Then I had to get a crt that supported NTSC signal.
Nowadays though, all sony trinitron crts that I come across always have s-video AND actual RGB. Tried out the RGB connection and played some silent hill. It looked so bad lol. You could see all the artifacting in the FMVs, as well as every single pixel on the light filtering in the game. The snow was now just blatant white squares. CRT bros, don't fall for the RGB meme. Half the appeal of using one IS the natural image blur that just masks unappealing parts of games. You'll hardly need image quality better than s-video on a set, and that's more for watching shit like old star trek, twin peaks, the wire, teenage mutant ninja turtles or evangelion, if that's your thing.
I personally haven't tried out those scanline boxes, but they don't sound like the best solution. Don't trinitrons have s-video in the US? Just get an old gpu with s-video out, plug it into your pc along with the one you're using and output that on a crt as your second screen. Especially now that most pc motherboards have more than one pcie x16 slot, it would be both the cheapest and tidiest solution.
Have a good one, bros!

[Anonymous No.8515545]

>>8513267
Jokes on you anon
I did both

[Anonymous No.8515547]

>>8515542
of course playing rgb/component on ps1 games with pre-rendered backgrounds are going to look like shit, people who played these via ps3/ps4 backwards compat already know this

not a lot of games look better with the dithering blending that was done via composite and the trade off of having vibrant colors and a clear pictures is better then just havign dithering blurred together

[Anonymous No.8515565]

>>8515389
>You fat fucks are too stupid too much.
What flavor of ESL am I reading here? I guess that explains why my simply worded reply was not understood by you.

[Anonymous No.8515573]

>>8515126
The RCS input on my TV isn't any worse than the old RF input I used to play with back in the day. I would skip the upscaler if my TV didn't have horrible input lag on non-HDMI inputs.

[Anonymous No.8515626]

>>8515542
Yeah, usually the Genesis/Mega Drive get brought up as a main offender of heavy dithering but I'd venture to say the PS1 is far WORSE, there's literally dithering patterns on EVERYTHING and you'll need composite blending to tame the gritty polygons and textures not matching up and FMVs looking like they're rendered in porridge of glass shards. I've come full circle and composite everything from the 80s and 90s, but he PS1 and Genesis are the 2 consoles I absolutely cannot play without composite cables under any circumstance.

As for DVDs I've have a ton of stuff that's never been re-released on Blu-ray and look like absolute crap on modern TVs, just for shits and giggles I put them in my PS2 with a composite cable into one of my CRTs, and as a dirty composite faggot I must say the results surprised even me, all the color-banding and compression artifacts GONE, and looks like the resolution got doubled due to the composite signal and scanlines/slotmasks doing their magic. Try it with your DVDs, it answered my question of how the fuck I could stand watching DVDs back in the 90s and early 00s.

>>8515547
>no vibrant colors
I never got this being a problem, just turn down brightness and turn up contrast and saturation/color to compensate? Yes, hot-swapping from composite to RGB will immediately give you a brighter image with clearer colors, but I've never had a TV I couldn't compensate for that with using the built-in settings.

[Anonymous No.8515662]

>>8515626
>I never got this being a problem, just turn down brightness and turn up contrast and saturation/color to compensate?

No anon, just by nature of those signals, S-video and composite, the colors are going to bleed into each other. Yes it still looks fine, but going back to them from RGB feels awful until you get used to it again.

[Anonymous No.8515675]

>>8514914
Yep that's why I spent like 600 dollars to get one of the last 1080p Samsung qleds this year, before their all gone.

[Anonymous No.8515683]

>>8515675
Eh, in like a year your gonna get 9x scalers. Your still gonna be stuck with a shit tv. Right now it's OLED or nothing, hopefully micro led comes along to perfect the modern display

[Anonymous No.8515709]

>>8515683
No it's going to be a very long time before 9x scalers come out with the tech. And anon much wiser then I explained in depth in a last thread in short it's just not.

[Anonymous No.8515713]

>>8515709
It will, it would have already been out of it wasn't for the commie cough. We are talking about simple line multiplication here.

[Anonymous No.8515727]

>>8515662
Yes I do get the color accuracy is immensely better without the composite luma/chroma blending, but on CRT TVs the nature of the display technology itself doesn't really lend itself to gain a tremendous benefit from this accuracy either since the scanlines/shadowmasks breaks up the picture and the bloom and decay of the lines being projected on the phosphors have a extremely narrow time-frame were they're at just the right temperature and brightness to be accurate.

If you are doing critical video editing on a PC CRT monitor then sure, but for playing 80s and 90s console videogames it's not going to make any difference except for not masking dithering, breaking up trapezoid patterns and color blending properly like with the RF/composite signal they were tailored to look right on. Yes, the SNES/Genesis and PS1 could do S-Video/Component/RGB but this had to do with monitor compatibility so you could use them on whatever you got rather than the targeted optimal way to play them.

Composite does look horrible on modern flat-screens TVs without scanlines/shadowmasks though absolutely, but that's because the signal is lacking half of the equation it needs to pull off it's bag of tricks to look right, so using RGB cables in this scenario is completely understandable and why the whole RGB modding/cable craze started in the first place I suppose.

[Anonymous No.8515765]

>>8515713
By the time a proper 4k scaler comes along you're gonna need a scaler for current HDMI systems.

[Anonymous No.8515956]

>>8515204
Retrotink can emulate the look of a PVM
CRTs are obsolete

[Anonymous No.8515989]

>>8515956
none of them do it correctly, not pc shaders, not upscalers, but if you like the look that's cool

[Anonymous No.8516074]

>>8515956
The scanlines in the latest Retrotink 5X update are great, especially since they give you the option to adjust the gamma/color. They're fun to mess around with, but I'm not sure if they replace my CRT entirely. That fucker is bright even around 50% brightness, and I guess I still enjoy having one around due to nostalgia.
Plus until we get to a point where I can use my Saturn lightgun on modern displays, I'm not quite sure I'm willing to move on just yet.

[Anonymous No.8516117]

>>8515956
no, the scanlines look like dogshit and motion blur is still there

[Anonymous No.8516147]

>>8511994
There's no way a box can replace a CRT no matter what's inside. The colours and blacks on a CRT are just so good. They are irreplaceable.

[Anonymous No.8516215]

>>8512276
>not inheriting all your TVs

I got a 20” flat Trinitron from my parents, a 27” curved Trinitron from my grandfather, and a 36” Toshiba HD-CRT from the previous owners of my house. The latter has been my main TV for the past 5 years. Meanwhile my sister is on her third TV in 5 years. In that span of time, my she forked out $4,000 to Red China for two TVs, both of which failed just outside of warranty. After the second $2,000 set went down the drain, she found out one of her friend’s parents were ditching a 65” Panasonic Plasma because it was “so old”. She’s using that now and it’s a great set. This one is rated to a lifespan of 100,000 hours. Chances are it will last a while.

Sometimes the classics are the best.

[Anonymous No.8516291]

why would I use this when my shitty fleamarket crt is infinitely better?

[Anonymous No.8516374]

>>8516291
I'll never understand why you fucks cant comprehend the idea that some people don't want or like CRTs

[Anonymous No.8516441]

>>8516374
I legitimately cant comprehend spending all the cash on retro hardware only to use it with modern tvs/monitors
Just emulate at that point

[Anonymous No.8516482]

>>8516441

[Anonymous No.8516491]

>>8516482
Same could be said about a CRT. Just emulate that bitch.

[Anonymous No.8516517]

>>8516491
no shaders emulate crts correctly, also even the best lcds and oleds cant change colors fast enough causing shitty bluriness

[Anonymous No.8516617]

>>8516291
>>8516215
I said it was better than a CRT, not cheaper.
>>8516374
this no one has the desk space for a giant CRT, unless you like 480p.
>>8516517
of course its not 100% accurate but its close.

[Anonymous No.8516642]

>>8516617
>>>8516617
>this no one has the desk space for a giant CRT, unless you like 480p.

stop being a rentoid, faggot

[Anonymous No.8516760]

>>8516617
>no one has the desk space for a giant CRT
we going for no crt cope bingo?

[Anonymous No.8516823]

>>8516074
Get a QLED, their bright as hell

[Anonymous No.8516827]

>>8516823
>LCD is bright
wow, what a discovery

[Anonymous No.8516982]

>>8516760
Always chuckle at this one. And yes. /vr/ is full of winners at this game of bingo.

[Anonymous No.8517000]

>>8516982
its full of late to the party faggots that thinks everyone who has a pro monitor paid $5000 or thinks rgb is some new craze, it's also full of 3rd worlder emu fags that think emulators are just as good as hardware

[Anonymous No.8517051]

>>8515339
He's banging your mom. you just don't know about it because she knows how to do it around your schedule, so you don't break down and flip out like last time, nerd

[Anonymous No.8517189]

>>8516760
I said desk not room. why would I use both a CRT and a LCD when I can do everything with an LCD in one setup. What ever slight lag an LCD has that a CRT does not is negligible considering you get HD resolutions.

[Anonymous No.8517192]

>>8513267
>inferior tiny screen
>PVM 20L5
Yeah. An inferior 20 inch, 900 TVL screen. So bad....

[Anonymous No.8517196]

>>8511994
Doesn't the framemeister still have better output? Amazing that after ten years it's still the superior option

[Anonymous No.8517578]

>>8517196
I think solutions like the GBS Control and Retrotink 5X have basically caught up to it in terms of 1080p output and motion adaptive de-interlacing.

[Anonymous No.8517592]

>>8512276
>if you understand the value of money then you must be poor

[Anonymous No.8517598]

>>8515126
Big based

[Anonymous No.8518432]

>>8512276
>poorfag

YOU MUST CONSOOOM

[Anonymous No.8518653]

>>8517196
>Amazing that after ten years it's still the superior option
Not with the shitty 2 frame delay.

[Anonymous No.8518714]

>>8518653
Depends on whether you want consistent larger lag or lower variable lag. The next best deinterlacer, the 5X, ossicilates between 7ms and 20ms of lag on triple buffer.

[Anonymous No.8518958]

>>8515360
>>8515362
>filenames
kek

[Anonymous No.8518970]

>>8516617
>this no one has the desk space for a giant CRT, unless you like 480p

Holy shit, get a house you fucking pod-dwelling faggot. How can you cunts even think of using the “muh poor” argument against CRTs when you can’t afford a minimum of 1,500 square feet?

[Anonymous No.8518971]

>>8516760
shit geometry ruins any other sort of image fidelty gain you'd have by using a CRT. Seriously I don't know how people stand that shit. I have what many consider to be the holy grails of CRT's, a BVM D20F1U and it sits in a closet because I can't get the geometry to an acceptable level as to not bother me when playing any game that scrolls

OLED with HDR shaders and BFI is just a superior option to me unless you could show me a CRT with absolutely perfect geometry which I'm pretty sure isn't a thing, and even then you're stuck with a 20-30" which is kind of lame unless you have a dedicated desk setup

[Anonymous No.8518993]

>>8518971
post pic of your d20

[Anonymous No.8519002]

>>8518993
The bottom one

[Anonymous No.8519005]

>>8519002
based, i got a D20DF1U also, very low hours, around 4K, no geometry issues, you should try entering the service menu and fixing the convergence

[Anonymous No.8519009]

>>8519005
I've spent an autistic amount of time adjusting the geometry in the service menu. There's only so much you can do

Post pics of a 240p test suite grid image

[Anonymous No.8519404]

>>8515545
Why do you have two wiis , and a ps1 and 2?

[Anonymous No.8520205]

>>8519404
not that anon but I also have both a PS1 and PS2, what's the problem with that?

[Anonymous No.8520210]

>>8519404
zoomers can't fathom that these are all accumulated over the years as they were released

[Anonymous No.8520942]

>>8520205
The ps2 is backwards compatible with ps1 games so why have both? Better picture quality?

>>8520210
As I sit here with my nearly complete master battle station consisting of nine consoles hooked up to one tv.

[Anonymous No.8520959]

>>8520942
So I can play games on an SD card?

[Anonymous No.8521239]

>>8520942
>The ps2 is backwards compatible with ps1 games so why have both
the situation with ps1 games on ps2 is not that simple. you either need a mod chip or a physical disc for that to work. A ps3 is a much better option for ps1 games than ps2. also the retrotink supports 240p downscaling so you can play ps1 games at original resolution on ps3.

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>>8521239
Actually with mechapwn you don't, however I prefer just using the original with Xstation because if you're using PS3, you may as well just emulate at that point

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>>8515229
I need one of those, I've got a vic 20 with some discs and tapes to mess around with.

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>>8511994
In what way? It's a good solution to a problem, but it's not better than the device the games were designed to play on.

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>>8511994
Cope

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>>8520210
Zoomers can't fathom that boys aren't girls and burning down and looting isn't peacefully protesting. You're wasting your time trying to convince them (or whatever fucking pronoun they want you to use)
Just let their beloved Darwinism solve the problem. Pic related.