>have to split up party members >Completely neglected everyone not in my main party Why...do they put me through this shit...

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Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:16:15 2022 No.8502376 [Reply] [Original]

>have to split up party members
>Completely neglected everyone not in my main party

Why...do they put me through this shit...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:20:06 2022 No.8502394 it's really easy so it doesn't matter

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:22:44 2022 No.8502406 This game is really clunky with how it makes you constantly micromanage your big ass party throughout the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:29:32 2022 No.8502430 Imagine playing more than 3 JRPGs and still making the error of neglecting party members

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:30:44 2022 No.8502438 >>8502430 There are only 3 JRPGs worth playing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:31:45 2022 No.8502440 >>8502438 Based Breath of Fire 3, Suikoden 2 and Skies of Arcadia enjoyer

Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:35:01 2022 No.8502452

>>8502376
Are you referring to the Phoenix Cave and Kefka's Tower later on? The Phoenix Cave can be turned into a one-party area with the Moogle Charm. As for Kefka's Tower, just make sure all your characters have decent equipment (look up some character setup guides for this) and split your main party members across the parties. The dungeon is easy enough that even at level 45ish they ought to be able to carry a party with two or three neglected characters around level 30 or so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:38:43 2022 No.8502463 >>8502376 This is why I didn't finish the game. I've beaten it 3 or 4 times, but this most recent playthrough I chose to minmax a single ultimate party of 4. Was able to cheese my way through these "RTS" segments, but Kefka's Tower is raping my B-teams.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:45:53 2022 No.8502495 this is why rpgs need universal level ups

Anonymous Sun Jan 9 16:47:33 2022 No.8502502

>>8502463
So put one or two of your badasses in each team. If you're playing the vanilla SNES version, abuse the shit out of MBlock to make near-unkillable characters. Terra, Celes, Edgar, Locke, and Relm can max out MBlock, and Strago and Gogo nearly do so as well. Other characters need a Merit Award to do the same.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 18:14:42 2022 No.8502793 >>8502376 >sabin with the weakest party member (gau?) >cyan with locke/edgar >celes, terra and locke/edgar I think you can use Mog on this fight, not sure

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 18:21:07 2022 No.8502813 >>8502793 You can't get Mog here. You don't have access to the upper levels of the Narshe cave when you play as Terra/Edgar/Bannon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 18:25:28 2022 No.8502834 >>8502440 >Suikoden 2 out of 3 isn't bad. Based Skies enjoyer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 19:04:33 2022 No.8502957 Just make everyone learn Ultima and osmose

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 04:15:29 2022 No.8504334 File: 490 KB, 1880x2166, OP can't play FF6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8502376 To teach you a lesson.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:21:32 2022 No.8504402 >>8504334 Holy kek I knew people this retarded at FFVI existed, but it's truly a sight to behold to actually see one in action. This is the audience Square had in mind.

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 05:28:56 2022 No.8504412
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>playing Dragon Quest VI DS version
>get to the final boss, party is eventually wiped
>enter the benched dudes I've literally never used, they last a while but they all die too
>enter the monster team I never bothered with
>mfw they win the battle after only a few turns

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 12:47:57 2022 No.8505217 >>8502440 >breath of fire 3 boring

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 13:20:31 2022 No.8505305 >>8502406 stop it, you're going to make me cum.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 20:41:34 2022 No.8506841 >>8502452 oh my god imagine needing a fucking guide for this i beat it when i was 14

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 20:43:57 2022 No.8506848 >>8504334 >these are the people spamming /vr/ with "[popular beloved old game] is bad!!" jchh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 20:58:16 2022 No.8506897 >>8502463 People have beaten the game with Celes, Edgar, and Setzer. You can figure this out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 20:59:42 2022 No.8506903 >>8504402 Somebody post the guy who made it to Goddess statue without equipping armor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 21:00:46 2022 No.8506910 >>8506903 nm it's already here, i'm retarded

Anonymous Mon Jan 10 21:13:30 2022 No.8506949

>>8506897
Is it possible to do that while also being at minimum levels and without learning magic? I know the latter two are doable and can even be done together, but I don't think I've heard of a CES low-level natural-magic game. I'd imagine it comes down to exploiting bugs like crazy, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 21:36:33 2022 No.8507023 File: 9 KB, 200x299, kekfka.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >shit tier: villains who are just evil or lust for power

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 21:40:15 2022 No.8507040 >>8507023 He just did it for the lulz.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 22:40:21 2022 No.8507209 >>8506848 >jchh Error: You seem to have mistyped the CAPTCHA. Please try again. 4chan Pass users can bypass this CAPTCHA. [Learn More]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 22:41:31 2022 No.8507213 >>8507023 Kefka did nothing wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 10 23:15:31 2022 No.8507287 Had to do this in FF9 where Zidane is forced to pair up with Quina for a boss fight and I hadn't used Quina even once the whole back because she sucks and is ugly.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 11 08:19:33 2022 No.8508283 >>8507023 "Good" and "evil" are just shitty mortal cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 11 10:14:22 2022 No.8508468 >>8508283 Begone immortal

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 11 10:39:54 2022 No.8508525 >>8507287 Quina is arguably the most useful character if you bother to learn the good blue magic spells.

Anonymous Tue Jan 11 13:57:13 2022 No.8508945

>>8502430
imagine playing more than 3 jrpgs and stil buying into the grinding meme. I pick my favorites and don't do anything for any other party member. do you know why? because once you need a neglected member in your team you just have them survive a few fights and they catch up with everyone else in 2 seconds because of how many XP they're getting. Then you head to the nearest town and buy them the latest best gear because you can just buy that whenever. Enjoy wasting days upon days killing slimes so your party members' levels are even though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 11 14:07:30 2022 No.8508972 >>8502793 Gau is the strongest party member by far during that sequence. Edgar is also really strong there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 11 18:28:46 2022 No.8509772 >>8508525 Yep, Lvl 5 Death can be dominating.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 11 18:36:21 2022 No.8509790 >>8502376 1. It's easy. 2. You can have one wrecking ball team of 4 with your strongest and then put the rest of the teams on duty to stand in front of Banon. You do not have to actually use the otehr members.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 12 09:07:21 2022 No.8511779 >>8508972 Yeah I think OP is full of shit because there really is no 'main' party at this point and you're always going to have Sabin, Cyan and Gau at higher levels than everyone else unless you grind.

Anonymous Wed Jan 12 10:53:50 2022 No.8511998

Forcing you to take specific party members and restricting using certain members is one of the worst crimes JRPGs commit and prevents me exploring more of the genre.

If I don't give a fuck about half the characters, I'm not going to use them. Making me use characters I don't give a fuck about is just poor design- Especially if they don't have the common decency to give you SOME reason to care at all. See: Aramant in FFIX. This is true in wRPGs too, but in those games you can just leave the ones you don't give a fuck about on the sidelines. You chose the party members you actually like.

jRPGs (actually, you could argue Japanese games in general) just tend to offer very little player choice; you are solving a puzzle with only a few minor permutations. Japanese people are culturally autistic, so their games are very rigid. This is why western autists are so often drawn to weeb shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 12 10:57:01 2022 No.8512008 >>8511998 >is one of the worst crimes JRPGs commit and prevents me exploring more of the genre. Bullshit excuse and you know it. This shit is the extremely rare and even rarer when it's actually gamebreaking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 12 11:35:35 2022 No.8512112 >>8508525 No arguably about it. Quina, if you bother to level up and get all the blue magic, is by far the most powerful character in the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 12 12:15:40 2022 No.8512210 >>8502376 Your screenshot is right after your multiple parties regroup. So it's literally impossible that you neglected any of them unless you left them dead.

Anonymous Wed Jan 12 12:17:43 2022 No.8512216

>>8512008

It happens at least once in every jRPG I've ever played, and usually for some contrived story reason that rarely makes much sense or adds anything to the overall narrative.

(Although frankly the overall narrative is usually trash tier shonen garbage anyway.)

Anonymous Wed Jan 12 12:19:52 2022 No.8512229

>>8512112
I would still say most useful rather than most powerful, as several characters have attacks and spells that easily hit the 9999 damage cap or can be grinded to do so well before getting to high levels (Ark, Thievery, Dragon's Crest, Frog Drop, etc.). The Quina difference is she has several high-utility spells such as Mighty Guard, Angel's Snack and Auto-Life on top of that.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 03:57:47 2022 No.8514597 >>8502406 Just level everyone up a decent amount, its especially easy on ff6 too. Theres a forest somewhere on the map that constantly throws trex at you and they give ass loads of exp.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 03:59:41 2022 No.8514606 >>8508525 >>8512112 If you make sure they always have the best spork weapon available and get lucky on the random rolls they can do some pretty serious damage with just their regular attack too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 04:01:50 2022 No.8514612 Threads like these make me want to break out the hardmode hacks for the older FF games and go through them again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 05:07:47 2022 No.8514714 >>8502376 wat gaim?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 15:47:05 2022 No.8516119 >>8514714 bruh

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 18:45:02 2022 No.8516872 >>8514597 >suggests literally the end-game leveling spot to someone that has trouble with party management >>8512210 Anon, this thread was created by an adult that finds it hard to do something I strategized my way through when I was 11-12.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 19:02:33 2022 No.8516916 >>8516119 You have still not answered his question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 19:05:22 2022 No.8516923 >>8516872 I beat Dark Souls when I was 9. Beating a game as a kid doesn't mean jack all. However, OP is still an idiot. FF3 is pretty easy and the most difficult parts would be if you don't have the right relics equipped in that dream sequence.

Anonymous Thu Jan 13 19:21:34 2022 No.8516970

>>8514597
Everyone talks about grinding in the dino forest but when I first played FF6 back in 1995 I wound up grinding just south from Gau's Dad's house cause the enemies can be killed with a single fire 3/bolt 3 spell and they drop Imp Halberds for throwing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 20:14:09 2022 No.8517108 >>8516916 "he" can figure it out easily if (You) try

Anonymous Thu Jan 13 20:22:56 2022 No.8517138

>>8514597
The problem isn't the difficulty. It's that it's literally a pain in the ass to switch party members because there's a half dozen different equips and the game constantly screws with your active roster. Not to mention chasing everyone around on the airship. You can tell this was the first FF that let you swap party members freely. They didn't figure out an elegant way to do it yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 20:26:31 2022 No.8517154 >>8502406 Easily the worst thing about the game. It would've been much better if it were structured more like FFIV

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 20:57:26 2022 No.8517231 >>8506848 This is now my assumption from here on out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 21:42:10 2022 No.8517340 >>8516923 >I beat Dark Souls when I was 9. Get out. Get the f out. Now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 13 23:19:08 2022 No.8517595 >>8517340 Are you reminded of your own mortality? Regardless retard, I will stay on /vr/ for those great reccomendations you can't find anywhere else (e.g. Battle Mania 2).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 00:25:41 2022 No.8517819 >>8517595 No I was saying it like WHOA GET OUT OF TOWN you're so rude :(

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 01:23:02 2022 No.8517923 >>8516970 Uh, anon, the only enemy that drops Imp Halberds is the Tyrannosaur from that very forest. Unless you mean Mantodea, from which you can STEAL an Imp Halberd. Those might show up on that continent as well, but I forget.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 01:33:45 2022 No.8517953 >>8517819 What the holy fuck is going on?

Anonymous Fri Jan 14 02:04:57 2022 No.8518023

>>8502376
Make your party for the next part (Celes, Locke, Edgar, Sabin)
Have the leftover 2-3 people stand in front of Banon
Walk back and forth with the good party and kill all the imperials as they enter in slow fucking motion.
I never actually use 3 parties in this part. It's just easier to Bioblaster/FireDance everything.

Anonymous Fri Jan 14 02:07:51 2022 No.8518028

>>8507023
He was driven insane by Cid's magitek infusion being imperfect. This is canon and in the game, just in a weird spot (in the bar in Vector, when you first go there. It's way north of the entrance to the factory so people rarely even go there. Odd place to put such critical info)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 02:13:08 2022 No.8518037 >>8518028 Kefka did nothing wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 02:15:09 2022 No.8518043 >>8502376 Because it, like most all JRPGs, is nearly unplayable dog shit.

Anonymous Fri Jan 14 02:52:17 2022 No.8518130

>>8517138
Well i guess it bothers some more than others. At the end of the game you have to manage 3 different parties to make it through the cyberjunk maze to Kefka. Once i knew about this, all my subsequent play throughs consisted of me constantly training everyone and keeping their levels up to date. It never bothered me, i always enjoyed. FF6 is my fave afterall.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 03:57:47 2022 No.8518254 >>8507023 All the most popular villains are just evil assholes. Joker, Freiza, Palpatine and so on

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 03:59:16 2022 No.8518257 >>8516916 Ass Fucker V

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 04:00:57 2022 No.8518263 >>8518023 Why are you giving him advice? It has to be bait because only an actual fucking retard couldn't get past this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 04:02:20 2022 No.8518265 >>8518263 Because I like this game a lot and more people should enjoy it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 04:03:24 2022 No.8518267 >>8518254 Joker, Kefka, Luca Blight are crazy.

Anonymous Fri Jan 14 04:11:36 2022 No.8518278

>>8518254
>>8518267
Joker is the worst villain the second you realize in any real setting he would have been shot 96 times while "resisting arrest". The mental gymnastics you have to jump through to realize this asshat in clown makeup continues to exist are more complicated than the routine that killed the Greyson family.
Kefka, Freiza, Palps, at least they were powerful in their own universe and didn't need some equally crazy billionaire to keep them alive.

Anonymous Fri Jan 14 05:52:50 2022 No.8518412
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>>8507023
he's beyond based once you see him as an extension of the Empire's unfettered desire for worldly power and lack of morality. he's lame on his own, but as the logical end to what happens when one faggot desires absolute control for hedonistic purposes over all else, he works

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 07:58:34 2022 No.8518569 >>8502813 You get MOG if you happen to skip other characters or miss them mistakenly.

Anonymous Fri Jan 14 08:00:09 2022 No.8518574

>>8518278
>Joker is the worst villain the second you realize in any real setting he would have been shot 96 times while "resisting arrest". The mental gymnastics you have to jump through to realize this asshat in clown makeup continues to exist are more complicated than the routine that killed the Greyson family.
Nerd alert

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 08:23:07 2022 No.8518610 >>8516923 Physical age or mental one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 11:52:45 2022 No.8519038 File: 936 KB, 644x644, Screenshot_142.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8518574

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 16:54:21 2022 No.8519906 >>8518610 Kek.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 17:40:39 2022 No.8520071 >>8507040 actuao normie tier answer

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 14 17:56:32 2022 No.8520116 >>8518412 based

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