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Which is the better investment for emulation?

>> No.8497486
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8497486

>>8497483
/vr/ - Retro Games

>> No.8497490

>>8497486
I want one to play games from the GameCube and earlier

>> No.8497495
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8497495

>>8497483
PC with 240p CRT.

Wii was good, cheap option to hook up a CRT and play at 240p.
Wii U was good for HDMI out and also playing on the controller at 2x integrer scale.

Not to be a assole since you didn't ask that, both can still be used for that but a decent PC you might already have and will be better than both, just my recommendation.

>> No.8497496

>>8497486
anon... the wii released on 2006

>> No.8497501
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>>8497490
What the other anon said already - just use your fucking PC. The one from which you are making this shitty thread.
>inb4 phone

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>>8497496

>> No.8497539

>>8497508
and is a retro console per board rules

>> No.8497542

>>8497539
Do yourself a favour and read OP post, you stupid shite.
Then ask yourself what the fuck you are even doing

>> No.8497549

>>8497539
>platforms launched in 2001 and earlier

>> No.8497551

>>8497542
>he unironically read the rules

>> No.8497557

PC. The Wii can barely handle anything more powerful than SNES emu wise. The Wii U is fine but it doesn’t have the processing power to cope with load intensive games.

>> No.8497563

get a second hand pc if you want emulation

>> No.8497565

>>8497483
These days you can run 240p RGB out of any modern PC and GPU over DP to VGA adapters and a VGA to SCART cable, cheaper to add 240p output to a PC than to get a decent quality Wii and controllers

>> No.8497579

>>8497483
Wii U does it all

>> No.8497604

>>8497495
>>8497557
>>8497563
>>8497565
Seems the Wii/U isn’t the emulating god I convinced myself it was. Aren’t N64 games hell on the PC though?

>> No.8497614

>>8497483
Prices are way too inflated for me to recommend a Wii U right now, unless you find one for less than $100 go for a Wii. not that they are much cheaper... You are basically tied to having the Wii U gamepad for loading ROMs and RetroArch so be aware of that and the battery life is shit so you'll have to either keep it connected or replace with an aftermarket battery (easy install though).
If you already have a PC and a CRT then just emulate, get the adapters to connect to the CRT and play on that, but if you must have the feeling of being away from a pc and using a "console" then I suggest you buy a cheap used office PC like a Dell Optiplex SFF and hook that into a CRT, you'll be able to run CEMU on that as well depending on CPU/GPU combo while still being able to do much, much more.
If you don't care at all about using a CRT then grab the Wii U for HDMI out with the option of being able to use component out with a cable that works for both Wii and Wii U.
>>8497604
N64 on pc emu is fine for the most part and get patched with demand, the Wii U is capable of using the vWii to run Nintendont and play GC/Wii games just fine but anything else it will just be emulating it. They're only god tier for emu because it's using original hardware for those two systems and prior to the coof were going for less than $50 most places.

>> No.8497617

>>8497604
>Seems the Wii/U isn’t the emulating god I convinced myself it was.
It's decent for what it is and for it's time.

>Aren’t N64 games hell on the PC though?
Thanks the the performance advantage, PC does N64 the least worst, specially with modern emulators.
N64 has often sacrificed accuracy for performance, but it's 2022, a lot has changed.

>> No.8497634

>>8497604
>Aren’t N64 games hell on the PC though?
No. Not unless your pc was made 15 years ago.
Just go on ebay or another second hand online marketplace and search "gaming pc", check that the cpu and the graphics card were made in the last 5 years and you will be able to run anything shy of ps3 for under £200
even my REALLY shitty pc runs n64 and even ps2 fine (at native res of course)

>> No.8497656

WiiU can't do 240p and is more expensive than it's worth unless you really want to play Splatoon and XCX, just go fish a Wii out of some grandma's basement.

>> No.8497678

>>8497656
Plus Cemu is pretty much better than real Wii U in every way now.
If you have a PC for emulation with even okay specs, nothing fancy, you'll be doing Wii U easily too, if you want.

>> No.8497686

Steam deck or PC

>> No.8497717

Wii is the shit. Don't listen to those who say play from a pc. Not everyone wants to connect their pc to a monitor.

You can probably find a wii for 40 bucks or so. Go look at pawn shops

>> No.8497732

Wii has worked very well for me as a simple option to play anything until SNES to play on a CRT. You need a special graphics card or tinker around if you want to get 240p on a PC.

>> No.8497747

>>8497732
You don't need anything other than a DP to VGA adapter then VGA to whatever cable you need for your specific tv, the old method is outdated and overcomplicated for no reason other than it's what people repeat. New method just werks simple as.

>> No.8497765

>>8497732
>You need a special graphics card or tinker around if you want to get 240p on a PC.
What? You need like 30 bucks and 2 minutes of configuration in Windows.

>> No.8497776
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>>8497732
>>8497747
or you can just use a simple crt shader
>inb4 it doesn't look like a real crt
that's not the point, it's supposed to make 240p look native, which it does

>> No.8497781

>>8497776
Shaders don't give you perfect motion clarity/response and zero latency. Sadly.

>> No.8497785

anyone know if theres a way to get wii u emulators to output 240p? afaik the wii u cant do anything lower than 480

>> No.8497786

>>8497549
The analogue pocket came out this year, all those chink handhelds aren't that old. He's asking about playing old retro shit.

>> No.8497790

>>8497483
Find a shitty old laptop with an S-video connection. It won't run you more than 20 bucks probably

>> No.8497794

>>8497785
You mean emulators on Wii U or emulators emulating Wii U?
You're correct, you can't do 240p but only 480p on the Wii U.
If you mean emulators emulating Wii U, you can lower the resolution to 240p with custom patches, at least with Cemu, just make a custom entry for 240p for the game you want to play in the patches folder.

>> No.8497797

>>8497790
>with an S-video connection.
Pretty much all old graphics cards and laptops with S-Video or composite out are locked to 480i though, even if you can change the virtual resolution, it still outputs 480i.

>> No.8497813

>>8497686
>Steam deck
You sound like a fag.

>> No.8497817

>>8497781
>zero latency
with run-ahead in emulators nowadays you can get zero latency
of course I'd rather play on a real crt but I move around a lot so it's not worth me having one at the moment

>> No.8498141

>>8497747
More complicated than hooking up my Wii to a Crt.

>> No.8498169

can Wii U output 240p?

>> No.8498197

>>8498141
True, if you're retarded you should stick to consoles and not touch computers.

>> No.8498205

>>8497794
>introducing a computer (and probably a copy of Windows) into the equation when you could just use a console
missing the point imo

>> No.8498208

>>8498197
I'm a programmer for a living. You're not smart because you game on a PC lol, so pathetic.

>> No.8498212

>>8498208
sirs...

>> No.8498215

>>8498208
>i'm a programmer
>yet I can't follow simple instructions to set something up with a PC
So you're not smart. There's a reason programmers are called code monkeys, you don't have to be smart to be one.

>> No.8498221

>>8498205
what do you even mean?

>> No.8498228

>>8498205
I don't see how you'd emulate a Wii U (if that was their question) without a computer, also Cemu runs under Linux. Sure you could use a jailbroken PS4, which technically isn't a "computer" as in personal computer, but the experience is sub-par and there's no alternative to Cemu (that works and is playable).

>> No.8498230

Wii u is the best ninetndo console I ever owned and I've owned everything from the SNES onwards, from release.

Wii u had some real classics.
Breath of the wild
Mario 3d world
Best mario kart
Wario smooth moves


The Wii was built to stop old people dying of dementia. It wasn't a games console

>> No.8498231

>>8497604
>Aren’t N64 games hell on the PC though?

Not anymore, but I don't blame you for thinking this. N64 emulation reached a weird plateau around 2005 where people basically went "eh, good enough, plays my bing bing wahoo just fine" while the rest of the library had issues out the ass requiring you to juggle around several emulators, plugins and settings combinations to work halfway decent, and it basically stayed that way until around 2015, when things finally picked up again. See the following:

https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Recommended_N64_plugins

>> No.8498268

>>8497495
>PC with 240p CRT.
How does that work anyway? No, I'm not getting an ancient AMD card, I just want to know if throwing 240p60Hz at my TV will work for everything.

>> No.8498278

>>8498268
DisplayPort adapter to VGA and a VGA to whatever your TV uses, like SCART or BNC

>> No.8498287

Wii is shit. Use a pc.

>> No.8498639

>>8497786
Read the posts again, carefully. I know the OP is on topic and fine for the board. I was replying to the comment chain where the Wii itself was claimed to be a retro console, when it is definitely not.

>> No.8498772

>investment

>> No.8498783

>>8498215
It's funny you're so offended so easily you think I was dismissing the option entirely. And how do you think you get emulators working on a Wii dumbass?

God this site would be so much better off without PC gamers being offended at everything. They should be banned on sight really.

>> No.8498816

>>8497483
Wii U. Being able to play on the Wii U controller around the house is awesome.

>> No.8498829

If some one could figure out how to spoof a Wii U signal from a Wii U emulator so you could connect the controller to your PC and then play emulated games through that that would be very very nice of them k thx

>> No.8498836

>>8498169
Nope.
But it is more powerful than the Wii so your emulation options are little bigger.
I think it should do alright with shaders? But better research that first.

>> No.8499237

>>8497483
Homebrew?

>> No.8499275

>>8497483
RPi

>> No.8499278

If you can find a WiiU for cheap, get it.
Wii is REALLY good fir the price and it goes right into a TV set without needing adapter and converter faggotry like a PC needs.
Also, you can play lots of great arcade, Neo Geo, and N64 shit through Virtual Console channels-
https://archive.org/details/nointrowiidigitalwad
Lots of useful tiddybits on the little shit. I don't know how good the WiiU is with Virtual Console stuff.

>> No.8499616
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8499616

You need to have a Wii in order to use a Wii U because the U is an addon for the Wii.

>> No.8500176

>>8497483
Hey OP! You might wanna check this video out if you're interested in WiiU emulation
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tPXYIf9iUCE

If you don't wanna download the torrent I'll make a zip or rar file of the extracted torrent and upload to file leaks or something. It'll be slower but you won't have to rely on peers.

>> No.8500221

>>8497604
You can get the entire gamecube library working flawlessly on a hacked Wii with nintendont not sure what these anons are smoking

>> No.8500352

Not retro. Get an OG Xbox.

>> No.8500487

They both suck. Also, Wii U has no 240p output, which is the one of the few reasons you might want to use a Wii.

>> No.8500493

>>8498278
Will DP to VGA adaptors correctly convert unusual modelines?

>> No.8500578

>>8497483
The wii u is good for all nintendo consoles up to itself. It runs gamecube natively which is great. The base wii has an actual gamecube controller port and takes the mini dvds though. But it also has no hdmi port. I have both and don't use either so not sure what to recommend.

>> No.8500625

>>8500493
As long as the pixel clock and vertical/horizontal frequency aren't too low. I think 190p@50Hz is the lowest it goes or maybe 60Hz.

>> No.8500629

>>8498783
Jesus Christ, you're really getting this worked up over some stupid bantz about your dumbass posts being made fun off?

>> No.8500645

>>8497483
>investment
How do you not have a wii? Aren't they like 20 bucks?

>> No.8500652

>>8500629
Projecting. You're the one who got worked up at at my offhand remark in the first place dumbass

>> No.8500661

>>8500652
It's like you were born yesterday and never took part in consoles vs computer shitposting. So I guess I was still right to call you a retard, retard.

>> No.8500682

>>8500661
That's exactly why you "people" should be banned on sight. Funny how mods here will ban people for starting flame wars but not for what you're doing.

>> No.8500693

>>8500682
Okay newfag.

>> No.8500763

>>8497686
Good to know

>> No.8500765

>>8497813
>>8500763
The second post was meant as a reply to the first one.

>> No.8500772

A PC you idiot.

>> No.8500786

The Wii U does both, but takes longer to boot and you need to manually enable custom firmware at each boot. It also requires you to navigate more menus and will nag you every time you boot if a non-Wii U-formatted drive is connected. And you can't navigate it with wired controllers at all.
The WIi can boot you directly into the homebrew channel, which can be navigated with a Gamecube controller.
PC. Final answer.

>> No.8500791

>>8500645
There are 3-4 buck android sticks out there.

>> No.8500798

>>8500786
>and you need to manually enable custom firmware at each boot.
wrong

>> No.8500941

>>8500786
>and you need to manually enable custom firmware at each boot.
What is this, 2014?

>> No.8500965

>>8500798
>>8500941
You're right, my mistake.
But using things like alternative bluetooth controllers requires you to load an application each time.

>> No.8501975

>>8498816
Your house must be very small and devoid of walls.

>> No.8502121

>>8501975
Benefit of Japanese houses.

>> No.8502180

>>8497483
For Gamecube, the Wii is a great option. For 4th generation and earlier, it's as good as anything else. A few PS1 and N64 games work, but most don't.
Used Wiis are cheap. You can save by deliberately buying one with a broken disc drive. Just load the games off a USB-connected hard drive.

>> No.8502208

Her bros, I've been ot of the emulation game a while. Is RetroPie still the standard for Raspberry Pi or has something better come along? I'm running a Pi 3 if that matters. Forgive me for sticking this here, but I don't feel it deserves its own thread.

>> No.8504289

>>8498639
The Wii is someone's childhood, meaning it is by definition retro.

>> No.8504341

>>8504289

>>6775606

>> No.8504360

If all you want to do is emulate, the Wii is the best option out of those two.
The Wii U isn't going to do anything more than what the Wii already handles, outside of playing Wii U games.

>> No.8505909

>>8502208
Upgrade to Pi 4, RetroArch / RetroPie is the definitive pick.
Remember that for the Pi you can get a hat that lets you output 240p natively to TVs via RGB.

>> No.8506384

>>8500791
This

>> No.8506398
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8506398

You /vr/aggots didn’t answer the question, of course you can get a pc for the best emulation, im not Op, but im asking what are the key differences within each emulator on a hacked wii and on a hacked wii u for those who gave both.

>> No.8507738

>>8506398
>not using wiivc injections
ngmi

>> No.8507753

>>8497483
A PC with a 1ms monitor and a DS4

>> No.8508079

>>8506398
>You /vr/aggots didn’t answer the question
>im asking what are the key differences

>>8497495
>Wii was good, cheap option to hook up a CRT and play at 240p.
>Wii U was good for HDMI out and also playing on the controller at 2x integrer scale.

>Not to be a assole since you didn't ask that, both can still be used for that but a decent PC you might already have and will be better than both, just my recommendation.