/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8469325]

I have come to realize that I like classic RE/SH for the same reason that I like stealth games: dodging enemies to avoid combat is fun. There is a certain grace to it, and I derive enjoyment from it.

[Anonymous No.8469360]

>>8469325
>There is a certain grace to it,
Yes there is, and it is fun.

[Anonymous No.8469460]

>>8469325
Problem with these games is you don't know when they intend for you to run and when to fight.

[Anonymous No.8469469]

>>8469460
"The problem with this puzzle game is that I need to figure out the solution"
Zoom fucking zoom.

[Anonymous No.8469546]

>>8469460
You can finish all classic resident evil/silent hill while only dodging a very small number of ennemy.
Go gun blazing.

[Anonymous No.8469556]

>>8469325
I have to come to realize that none of this matters. It's all escapism for me. That's okay.

[Anonymous No.8469564]

>>8469325
dont compare reddit hill to resident evil

[Anonymous No.8469612]

>>8469325
I can't believe you're so fucking butthurt you started another thread. Lmfao.

Dodging basic zombies in RE1 takes zero fucking a skill.

[Anonymous No.8469615]

>>8469469
Myst is a puzzle game.

Resident Evil 1 is a key fetching simulator.

[Anonymous No.8469618]

>>8469564
>silent Hill
>actual puzzles
>interesting story
>awesome town to explore
>resident evil
>no real puzzles
>retarded story
>run back and forth through the same halls over and over

Admit, you like these games because they're fucking easy but their edgy presentation makes you feel like you're hardcore when you're not.

[Anonymous No.8469624]

As a land lord i never realized i was solving puzzles every time i pull my keys out.

Damn. My life is basically a video game.

[Anonymous No.8469631]

Resident evil is not a thinking man's game. At the same time RE1 came out my uncle and I played through Myst, now that is a thinking game. Resident evil 1 is literally just running from keyhole to keyhole.

It's so obvious that the remake worshipers are console fags who have never played a single point and click adventure game in their entire lives. It's comical watching them act like they're cracking the devinci code by using the helmet key in the helmet door and the umbrella emblem in the umbrella emblem slot.

Silent Hill is definitely better than classic RE, those game has some real puzzles. Better story too. They're no Myst, but they're pretty great. RE1 is practically a meme game at this point.

[Anonymous No.8469635]

>>8469325
Also since you posted this image twice, dave chapel is not, has never been, and will never be funny. He's just another boring nigger who believes in dumb nigger conspiracy theories like the white man invented aids, because he can't accept that his race are monkey fuckers. Then the best sketches written by a gay ass jew named neil Brennan.

[Anonymous No.8469760]

>>8469325
You should try Devil May Cry and other devilnetta games if you like dodging, Mayweather.

[Anonymous No.8469991]

>>8469618
Well silent hills combat is easier and resident evil puzzles are easier,it balance out.

[Anonymous No.8469996]

>>8469631
Omg this game isnt like this other game so its bad.
Stfu faggot,do you complain that mario isnt like myst too ?
Heres your (you)

[Anonymous No.8470243]

>>8469624
>as a land lord
holy fuck you're such a fag

[Anonymous No.8470398]

>>8470243
Rents due tomorrow bitch.

[Anonymous No.8470441]

>>8469325
Games where Dodging is awesome and takes skill:
Tenchu
Devil May Cry
Ninja Gaiden
Bayonetta
Castlevania Curse of Darkness
Castlevania Lament of Innocence
Metal Gear Rising
Tekken
Soul Calibur
Ikaruga
Blood Will Tell
Bullet Hell Games
Onimusha
Enter the Gungeon
Bujingai
Maximo

Games where Dodging takes zero skill and is boring:
God of War
Asscreed
Resident Evil
Lego Games

[Anonymous No.8470853]

>>8469460
Like another anon said, RE and SH give you enough ammo to kill pretty much every enemy you come across.

What do you want to do? Kill all the enemies to make the areas you'll cover easier to navigate, but have less ammunition for bosses? Or conserve ammo for boss fights but make the areas tougher?

[Anonymous No.8470858]

>>8470441
>posts zoom garbage
lol

[Anonymous No.8470859]

>>8469624
If you don't have cameras hidden inside your tenants' bathrooms/bedrooms, can you even call yourself a real landlord?

[Anonymous No.8470869]

>>8469624
This kids reading comprehension is amazing. Where did anyone say that using keys were puzzles?

[Anonymous No.8470930]

>>8470398
I own my house, LARPer

[Anonymous No.8470939]

>>8470869
That's all RE1 and RE0 have. Key keys, emblem keys, statue keys, jewel keys, crank keys.

[Anonymous No.8470991]

>>8470939
Yeah, and it's fun.

[Anonymous No.8471030]

>>8470991
Like i said, i never knew being a land lord was basically a video game

[Anonymous No.8471068]

>>8469618
>edgy presentation
If you use the word edgy unironically you should kill yourself

[Anonymous No.8471073]

>>8470243
Hating landlords is an immediate tell that you have a tiny cock

[Anonymous No.8471227]

>>8471068
Edgy compared to the only other games you've played, scotsformers

[Anonymous No.8471572]

>>8471227
Doesn't even make sense, you're just making up random shit and projecting about playing games to feel "hardcore"

[Anonymous No.8471607]

>>8469564
SH1-3 is basically a reskin of RE1-3 and vice versa. You're hopelessly autistic if you think otherwise.

[Anonymous No.8471627]

>>8469631
>muh Myst
Try to make the larp less obvious next time zoomie.

[Anonymous No.8471654]

>>8471607
Silent Hill is a puzzle game and a psychological Horror game

Resident Evil is key fetching backtracking simulator with a b movie in the back ground.

[Anonymous No.8471671]

>>8471654
None of the puzzles in SH are difficult, just like none of the puzzles in RE are difficult. SH is a psychological horror game true, but both games control basically exactly the same, so SH is just a RE reskin.

[Anonymous No.8471674]

>>8471671
>this fag set the puzzle difficulty to normal

[Anonymous No.8472117]

>>8471674
I've cleared both SH2 and SH3 on action hard and riddle hard: hint: it's not hard.

[Anonymous No.8472138]

>>8471674
That's the Brookhaven Hospital doorcode puzzle right? The guy describes what buttons to press if you imagine Heather's face as the numpad. I will admit to googling the Shakespeare puzzle though because I'm not studying Shakespeare for a game.

[Anonymous No.8472187]

You guys ever play DMC? It's a hardcore gamer game.

[Anonymous No.8472193]

>>8472187
Homo.

[Anonymous No.8472617]

>>8472187
Now play devil may cry 3 on dante must die, butthurt pleb.

[Anonymous No.8472627]

>>8472617
Why? DMC is just a punching bag simulator where you are fighting afks

[Anonymous No.8472628]

>>8472117
>i use guides and Google solutions so it's not hard

Kill yourself. Nobody who thinks RE is hard will have the 3 digit IQ necessary to solve silent Hill Puzzles on hard without cheating.

[Anonymous No.8472631]

>>8472628
Who said RE is hard? Once again you prove that your reading comprehension is nigger-tier

[Anonymous No.8472632]

>>8472627
Mainly because of the part where you're full of shit.

Enjoy your key fetching simulator. That's my life as a land lord so i don't get any joy out of juggling keys for 6 hours.

[Anonymous No.8472641]

>>8472631
You implied running past zombies is hard.

Its not.

You denied implying it, but you did.

Its really pathetic to watch.

Stop playing children's games.

[Anonymous No.8472646]

>>8472632
funny because you fetch keys in retro DMCs too

[Anonymous No.8472660]

>>8472646
All classic RE is, is fetching keys. There's nothing else there. That's the whole game.

Devil may cry 3 is about fights. Nobody gives a fuck about devil may cry 2s shit combat, or devil may cry 1 which was a resident evil spin off originally.

So sad to see you grasp at straws.

[Anonymous No.8472663]

>>8472641
>stop playing children's games
>shills dmc
I know you're trolling dude

[Anonymous No.8472671]

>>8472660
Literally all dmc is is just doing flashy combos on npcs programmed to attack once every 5 seconds. It's one tiny fraction above braindead.

[Anonymous No.8472689]

>>8472641
>You implied running past zombies is hard.
>Its not.
>zoomer uses zoomer control scheme which breaks the game
>wow lmao
Unreal how low your IQ is.

[Anonymous No.8472695]

>>8472138
Yeah the keypad puzzle only seems esoteric out of context. In game, it's right next to the keypad and it clicks together pretty quickly once you realize what you're supposed to do.

[Anonymous No.8472696]

>>8472671
Nah. 2 maybe. 3? Nah.

Stop being gay.

Its not even like I'm the world's biggest devil may cry fan or something, you're just retarded dude.

[Anonymous No.8472704]

>>8472689
How does it break the game if its easy anyway? Answer the question nigger.

>>8472695
>he said in hindsight after looking it up

[Anonymous No.8472714]

Silent Hill Puzzles have nothing on resident evil.

Remember that time you had to put the eagle emblem into the eagle emblem slot? Took my and 6 of my co workers, who are all mechanical engineers, 7 days to solve that puzzle.

[Anonymous No.8472725]

>>8472617
>triangle-triangle-triangle-stinge
damn peak gameplay

[Anonymous No.8472765]

>>8471607
They're both pure B grade horror too. I never understood people trying to act like Silent Hill is this super serious horror series. RE is a clumsy Japanese knockoff of Romero and a bunch of other zombie/monster flicks. SH is a clumsy Japanese knockoff of Lynch and a bunch of other stuff like Phantoms, Jacob's Ladder, Hellraiser, the Cell, etc. They both have paper thin characters, amateurish scripts, and laughable voice acting. Getting into autistic slapfights over which is scarier or true horror or whatever is the stupidest shit I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.8473312]

>>8472765
Silent Hill 2 doesn't have characters that are any thinner than any respected movie.

The fact that's simpsons diddit doesn't make something B grade, all of those things silent Hill was influenced by? They have a similar list of influences. The fact that you had to list so many is proof that game is excellent, since you can't just pin it down as a knock off of one thing.

Unlike RE, which is actually a fucking corny grind house movie.

[Anonymous No.8473313]

>>8472765
Also, David Lynch is literally retarded.

I mean literally mentally challenged.

https://youtu.be/Ut9P2d9ddlE

[Anonymous No.8473341]

>>8473312
>Silent Hill 2 doesn't have characters that are any thinner than any respected movie.
lmao I forgot I killed my wife whoops the town made me stupid

[Anonymous No.8473376]

>>8473341
I can do this for any movie.

Movies are only 100 minutes long the characters are never that deep but everyone acts like it's the pinnacle of art. Why? Well because the people who make them told you so!

In fact all movies tend to have thin characters who are defined by 3 characteristics and at the end of the movie one of those 3 characterizations changes. Viola, "development"

[Anonymous No.8474417]

>>8472765
>Phantoms
I saw that awhile back for the first time. It's obvious Silent Hill (especially the first game) just flat out copied the setting. It even has sirens going off when the weirdness escalates.

[Anonymous No.8474560]

>>8470853
dont even need ammo for SH the melee weapons are fucking op and you only really need to shoot the 3 or 4 boss battles
hell if you manage to run out of ammo the last boss of sh1 will even kill itself for you

[Anonymous No.8474571]

>>8469624
Sorry you were to stupid and poor to afford college anon, have fun being a land leech.

[Anonymous No.8474645]

>>8474560
SH1 turns into a comedy game once you get the giant hammer. Nothing poses the slightest threat to you from that point on and it's more fun to chase enemies down and beat them to a pulp with it than trying to avoid them.

[Anonymous No.8474649]

>>8474645
yeah the only survival horror melee weapon to surpass it is the code veronica knife and even then it takes some timing and aim to get the knockdown every swing

[Anonymous No.8474889]

>>8474571
I went to college for mechanical engineering. How do you think I bought the apartment buildings you fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.8474893]

>>8474645
You mean like how the shotgun carries you through RE1?

[Anonymous No.8474898]

>>8474893
even with a shotty and a magnum hunters can still pose a threat
two hunters in a narrow hallway is almost certain death if you dont get the first hit in

[Anonymous No.8475075]

>>8474898
I never had that issue. I just shotgun the shit out of them the second i walk in the room. If i got hit once it means i finally got to use am herb.

[Anonymous No.8475150]

>>8469564
>people enjoy thing
>thing must be... Le REDDIT?
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.8475153]

>>8469325
Why not just play something like Outlast or Amnesia at that point?

[Anonymous No.8475185]

>>8475153
>first person horror
Lol

[Anonymous No.8477154]

>>8475150
Please do

[Anonymous No.8477163]

>>8471227
>scotsformers
Wut?

[Anonymous No.8477868]

>>8473376
>movies are only 100 minutes long
opinion voided

[Anonymous No.8478000]

>>8477868
Ok, 99% of movies. Happy pedantic faggot? You think being 200 minutes makes a fucking difference to my point you low IQ cunt?

[Anonymous No.8478021]

>>8478000
It doesn't just make a difference to your point you dumb fucker, it is your point. You seriously want to argue that all films have badly defined characters, and that not a single film is long enough to properly develop a character? Every film. You'd have to be a complete retard to believe such a thing, do you even understand what you're saying?

[Anonymous No.8478030]

>>8474645
I was really disappointed by the melee combat in 3. You get that big mace thing but enemies barely even react to getting hit. It's nothing like SH1 where you'd pancake them with a powerful hit or break the backs of the pterodactyls and watch them helplessly flap around until they died.

[Anonymous No.8478060]

>>8478030
That's fair, but SH3 gives you a lightsaber so I like the melee regardless.

[Anonymous No.8478063]

>>8475075
>she plays with autoaim

[Anonymous No.8478192]

>>8478063
I just push r1 and circle bro.

[Anonymous No.8478203]

>>8478021
3 traits.
1 trait changes by the end.

That's every "good" movie ever.

Movies were looking down on in the past for good reason. Boomers were the first illiterate manchild consoomers.

Movies are overrated. They're cheap fun, and when they try to be anything else, they fail.

[Anonymous No.8478249]

>>8469325
Yes. It's all about mastering your ability to navigate 3D environments after learning how the enemy is designed to act.

[Anonymous No.8478252]

>>8478203
All movies are cheap fun and silent hill is high art? Could you tell me even 5 films that follow your 3 trait structure?

[Anonymous No.8478269]

>>8469618
>retarded story
Why do you consider a military special forces engaging in battle data collection for bio-organic weapons a bad story?

[Anonymous No.8478441]

>>8478269
The story is:
Idiots get trapped in zombie mansion, split up every 5 seconds. One is an obvious traitor, but jill is a total retard and doesn't acknowledge it until the very end, even when wesker shoots a dude from around the corner like 12 feet away.

Also, zombies are a retarded concept for a weapon. The military would fucking mow through zombies. Maybe not jewmericas globohomo military, but Russia or China would fuck them up.

[Anonymous No.8478446]

>>8478252
I said the characters are no thinner than movies. Don't make straw men you dumb faggot.

And the answer literally every fucking movie, except the ones where the characters are even thinner.

[Anonymous No.8478492]

>>8478252
SH fags are fucking delusional, nothing new. This is the same fanbase that holds up SH2 as a masterpiece of storytelling after all.

[Anonymous No.8478505]

>>8469325
fuck yo couch, nigga

[Anonymous No.8478582]

>>8478492
Hey nigger, See:

>>8478446

[Anonymous No.8478596]

>>8472765
>SH is a clumsy Japanese knockoff of Lynch and a bunch of other stuff like Phantoms, Jacob's Ladder, Hellraiser, the Cell, etc.
But with better background music and sound effects, Creature and Environment art. And a deeper and more subtle plot that uses much more symbolism to connect everything to the story. Without the campy over dramatic forced acting that gives cheap scares on kids

[Anonymous No.8478661]

>>8478596
Again, David lynch is literally retarded and there is nothing deep about his dumb fucking movies. It's literally just dumb nonsense, and you people feel an irrational need to give them meaning where none exists. The man has an extremely low IQ.

[Anonymous No.8478682]

>>8478661
>Again, David lynch is literally retarded and there is nothing deep about his dumb fucking movies.
Agreed. But SH gives better meaning than Lynch though. That was a comparison of how better SH is to Lynch and other movies and how they made it much better

[Anonymous No.8478695]

>>8478441
Zombies were never intented as a bio-organic weapon - they are just the result of an accidental laboratory leakage contamining the staff.

[Anonymous No.8478707]

>>8478695
But Nemesis was intended and used as a weapon

[Anonymous No.8478708]

>>8478661
You're a retard. I get that Lynch might not be everyone's speed and to some it might come off as too pretentious but to say his movies are devoid of themes and are utter nonsense just exposes you as a brain-dead monkey who has his head up his ass.

[Anonymous No.8478710]

>>8478707
What does that mean? Nemesis is not a zombie. He is a Tyrant.

[Anonymous No.8478715]

>>8478695
I think in CV there is a note or something that mentions how POW could be infected and released and then potentially do damage to a base if it got out of hand.

[Anonymous No.8478750]

>>8478695
Yeah the only things they were actively developing as weapons in the first game were the dogs, Hunters, and the Tyrant. Everything else was either an escaped research specimen or created by accidental exposure. They don't do a great job of communicating the difference in the game though.

[Anonymous No.8479010]

>>8478708
The "themes" that exist at are as basic as any other movie. Fucking fast n Furious has "themes". The fact is the movies aren't deep


You don't seem to get it, I'm not calling him names when i say he's retarded. I'm telling you, the man is literally mentally challenged.

And of course a mentally challenged man will make movies that are weird. Just like with Andy Warhol a bunch of jews get off on hyping him up, probably laughing as the audience rationalizes to themselves that person must have some secret genius if the jews put them on a pedestal.

[Anonymous No.8479090]

>>8478750
And Neptune FI-03. I don't think it's ever established how it crashed through the main tank in the original game so it would not surprise me that Wesker was ordered to test it on STARs as well.

[Anonymous No.8479110]

>>8469624
>landlord
off yourself

[Anonymous No.8479382]

>>8479110
Go back to r3ddit, you pathetic communist faggot

[Anonymous No.8479457]

>>8479090
One of the files in the Guardhouse says a researcher went crazy after he found out he was infected and blew up the aquarium with explosives from the basement armory.

[Anonymous No.8479969]

>>8469325
Sir, my message is simple. N

[Anonymous No.8480782]

>>8478708
David Lynch know how to mess people's minds with his empty movie scripts. Since he has no much to tell in his movies he just turn everything messy and weird, it's still good art but where's the story's meaning? He never made one because he never finishes his writing. The only thing good about David Lynch it's his weird way to present his movies and that's it. Team Silent are his fans and added only his good stuff to their games without making it entirely senseless by showing something with meaning because Team Silent writes a lot better.

[Anonymous No.8482093]

>>8480782
I don't see any emptiness in Lynch's movies. His incoherent structure might not make it easy to follow the ideas he is trying to jungle when he crafts a movie but to say to assume they are meaningless and random is being intelectually dishonest or just not paying enough attention to the movie. Mulholland Drive (and Lost Highway to a certain degree) provide you with just enough exposition to piece together the story, be it through the lens of the meta criticism Lynch is navigating as a director, be it through the character's struggles to find any value and understanding in the macabre world they are stuck. I think Inland Empire is the only exception - you can feel this one is a mangled experimental mess that felt more personal and only Lynch can process. Without understanding his thought-process from conception, it just feels very hard to pin what was the point of it.

I would agree that Team Silent does a better job at presenting these ideas in a more clear and comprehensible way but the vagueness that Lynch employs allows for better exploration of his work since much can be interpreted by one's subjective ego as opposed to a much cut and dry approach.

[Anonymous No.8482452]

>>8482093
Hahaha you're such a fucking dumb ass. You are rationalizing all of the meaning. It's pure head canon.
THE MAN IS
L-I-T-E-R-A-L-Y
MENTALLY
CHALLENGED.
I cannot stress this enough, this isn't just typical 4chan shit talk, I'm telling you he is an actual, text book definition, real life fucking retard. His movies are weird because he's retarded and you've constructed a head canon to rationalize the random meaningless nonsense of a mildly retarded man.

[Anonymous No.8482860]

>>8482093
>Y-you have to pay attention
A good director would convey meaning subconsciously, even if it is obscured from your immediate perception.

[Anonymous No.8483369]

>>8479090
I've never tried this before, I like it.

[Anonymous No.8484634]

>>8482093
>Mulholland Drive (and Lost Highway to a certain degree) provide you with just enough exposition to piece together the story
Lost Highway had good writing because it was "co-written" by a real book author, Barry Gifford otherwise this "Lynch's masterpiece" would be shit like his others. Wild at Heart, another "Lynch's masterpiece" was also written by Barry Gifford in his novel. Mulholland Drive was written solely by Lynch but it was just another Lost Highway copy about a delusional women in Hollywood. Team Silent also copied Lost Highway but added a whole lot more

[Anonymous No.8485074]

>>8482860
>A good director would convey meaning subconsciously, even if it is obscured from your immediate perception.
When a bad writing gives no meaning, the director might be just hiding something that was never there in the first place, that not even he knows what is. This is where "the more times you watch the less you get it" comes from. Because you realize there was nothing to get it

[Anonymous No.8485585]

>>8469624
Wtf I missed the memo. Why do people hate landlords?

[Anonymous No.8485667]

>>8485585
Leftist losers angry that they have to pay for things

[Anonymous No.8485807]

>>8469325
Me too OP.
I replayed SH1 last December on hard and limited myself to only 5 saves. It was honestly pretty fucking tense.

I'm not the biggest pro at the game so my controller was rumbling frequently.

[Anonymous No.8485823]

>>8485585
wages staying the same taxes and rent go up people dont like the feeling of paying rent

[Anonymous No.8487523]

>>8482860
That's what Lynch movies do, anon.

>>8484634
>Lost Highway had good writing because it was "co-written" by a real book author, Barry Gifford otherwise this "Lynch's masterpiece" would be shit like his others. Wild at Heart, another "Lynch's masterpiece" was also written by Barry Gifford in his novel. Mulholland Drive was written solely by Lynch but it was just another Lost Highway copy about a delusional women in Hollywood.
While I prefer Lost Highway, I think simplifying Mulholland Drive down to just a more dumbed down version of Lost Highway is wrong. While it's clearly more accessible to the general audience - making it easier to grasp it upon repeated views - if you look into the troubled development that it went through, you can visualize a lot of the director's frustration trying to uncompromise against the industry. I know Twin Peaks tried to subvert medium tropes years before but to see this adapted to the tale that Mulholland Drive portrays just felt ingenious. And bold as fuck. But that's just my take on it.

That being said, Blue Velvet and The Elephant Man were straight to the point and they are also very good movies. Lynch's style isn't constrained by his wackiness though obviously that's what stands out the most in his works.

>>8485074
That's the exact opposite with Lynch movies, though. The more you watch, the more you find interesting tidbits and angles to give you more perspective into his inner work.

[Anonymous No.8487610]

>>8483369
Glad you like it anon. It's a very fun and rewarding experience if you want to learn how each enemy was designed, what are the hit-boxes of their attacks, the patterns of their AI and that short of stuff.