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846460 No.846460 [Reply] [Original]

How does the Ouya handle emulation?

I'd like to hear first-hand accounts.

This is related to the board; I want to play retro games on the Ouya, but I don't know if the Ouya's actually worth it.

>> No.846473

>>846460
I don't know about other consoles but the N64 emulation is apparently shit:
http://youtu.be/vf_jmGaanuY?t=13m20s

You'd probably just be better off buying a decent laptop with tv-out

>> No.846478

>>846460
It's not worth it.

>> No.846479

>>846473
Or a good grade android device that isn't using hardware that was only okay two years ago.

>> No.848023

>>846460
I really don't understand who or what this device is for. Anything you can do on this can be done on smartphones and personal computers, and done better.

>> No.848037

It would probably be easier to buy a Wii and softmod it.

>> No.848040

I've only watched Ashens' review of it, but going off it, N64 emulation was very poor. You're probably better off buying a Wii and softmodding it.

>> No.848047 [DELETED] 

>>846473
>but the N64 emulation is apparently shit
N64 emulation is shit in the first place, even on PCs, that's a crappy reason to hate on it.

>> No.848059

>>848023
it's only $99, so I assume it was meant for people with low budgets.

>> No.848067

>>848040
>>846473

why do you people keep ripping on it solely based on N64 emulation?
N64 emulators aren't very good at this point in the first place, even PC N64 emulation is pure shit. The N64 emulation scene is more interested in waving their epeens around than actually making working products.

>> No.848081

>>848067
That was the only emulation aspect I knew about it. Wii does it better, mainly because you can use WAD Downloader to grab VC games, and it'd be cheaper.

>> No.848095
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848095

>>846473
>mupen
>not n64oid

>> No.848104

>>848081
how exactly would it be cheeper, that Ouya system is only $99

>> No.848108

>>848081
>That was the only emulation aspect I knew about it.
it's android, you can theoretically emulate any retro system you want on it

>> No.848120

>>848023
Plug it in. Go. Can you play Android games with other devices? yes, but it'll look like shit.

Think of for games what a Roku box does for internet video. Most if not everything a Roku box does can be done "better" with a computer. But it can be if not is clunky and cumbersome.

convenience > *

>> No.848129

>>848104
Wiis are going for cheap now because of the Wii U. Like, less than $99 cheap.

>> No.848132

>>846460

Just pick up a Wii and softmod it.

You get a better controller, more games and it'll probably be even cheaper nowadays.

>> No.848137

>>848120
>Can you play Android games with other devices? yes, but it'll look like shit.
Go away, ouya marketer.

>> No.848139

>>848095
n64oid is based on mupen64, isn't it?

>> No.848148

>>848129
give some links, I sure as hell hasn't seen Wiis for less than $99

>> No.848189

>>848148
I've seen them for $70 at my local Half Price Books, and that's with a controller, nunchuck and all cables.

>> No.848191

>>848148
>I sure as hell hasn't seen Wiis for less than $99
You haven't looked hard enough. You can find used Wii consoles anywhere from $40 to $80 online. Here's a list of 'em straight from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0009VXBAQ/ref=sr_1_1_up_0_olp?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1372383992&sr=1-1&condition=used

>> No.848234

Just get an xbox if you want emulation... Or even better, build an HTPC.

>> No.848272 [DELETED] 

>>848120
>>>/redddit/

>> No.848340

It would be cheaper to put CFW on a PSP.

>> No.848354

you have to sideload it which will take hours since it's shitlocked
just get a mini itx mobo off eggo and make a all-in-one media box. you probably have hdd and ram already. polite sage.

>> No.848434

>>848340
Yes.

>> No.848446

>>848354
>>848234
I'm with the "just build an HTPC" suggestion

>> No.848559

>>846473
Wow that fucking Zelda, holy shit. My phone runs Majora's Mask better than that.

>> No.848582

So why not do it on the PC you're using right now? Wireless controllers, Wireless adapters for controllers, 100m of HDMI cable, everything is cheaper than OUYA. If you want to play with your friends in your parent's living room, you'd have to find another fucking OUYA controller regardless. If you really don't want to setup a PC for this, you'll get an old Xbox/PS2/Wii cheaper with multiple controllers.

>> No.848585

>>848139
To be honest N64 emulation is all over the fucking place with different 'baked in' plugins and recompilers. Being based on Mupen64 hardly matters.

>> No.848594

>>848585
Just saying, Mupen64plus is seeing some good progress. It's still far from ideal, of course, but at least it's still being actively worked on.

>> No.848620

Serious question guys, how is the Saturn emulation on Android? I've seen some Saturn emulators that need to be paid on Google Play and I can't imagine people would want to pay for something that doesn't work

>> No.848618

the flash gamer console

>> No.848632

>>848620
It's based on Yabause, which kinda blows on PC.

That should tell you everything.

>> No.849350

>>848354
>you have to sideload it which will take hours since it's shitlocked

What the fuck? I thought this was supposed to be an open, modding-friendly console? Fucking hell, this thing is a scam, isn't it?

>> No.849745

>>848081

Link to WAD downloader? Never seen that homebrew...

>> No.849753

>>849350

He is exaggerating. Sideloading takes seconds, but it is more hassle than the ouya store. Not impossible or restricted though.

>> No.850456

>>846460
A modded PS3 is the best emulation console because you can play most PSP and PS2 games.
DS emulation would be cool but I guess that's wishful thinking.

>> No.850502

how well does a raspberry pi do for emulation needs?

>> No.850507

>>850502
bad

>> No.852787

>>850456
Isn't exophase working on ds emulator? I'd say that will be pretty good once it's finished.

>> No.852819

>>850502
http://lifehacker.com/how-to-turn-your-raspberry-pi-into-a-retro-game-console-498561192

>> No.852824

>>846460

The Ouya is a current gen console, therefore not retro. take this shit to /v/

>> No.852848
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852848

>>846460
You realize there are far better small form factor alternatives for straight emulation than ouya, right ?

Ouya is only "good" because it's running Android, so you'll be able to play shitty tablet games on it.

All the reviews I've seen of it so far say it's complete shit. Also one of the people who reviewed it didn't even preorder. He found it in a SECOND HAND SHOP. Couple of days after it got released... says how fucking shitty it is for someone to sell his console a day after he gets it.

>> No.852865

>>852848
Eh I'll hold on to my judgment until it's out for a year or two like every other console on the planet. It's hard to trust reviews of it since I think a lot of them were expecting the second coming of jesus christ.
If you can put something like retroarch on it I can't see it being too bad for emulation especially since retroarch uses Notaz's pcsx rearmed for ps1. I'd definitely hold of on it if buying it for general use since it seems to have some fairly serious hardware flaws.

>> No.852872

>>852865
It's not like you can't plug your damn tablet in your TV and people are making controllers for tablets now.

Instead of holding off judgment, hold off on buying it because it's going bust. You might be able to buy one second hand for nickels.

>> No.852881

>>852872
Oh I have no intention in the first place of buying it. I'm only interested in buying a specific device for emulation if it's portable. Of which there hasn't been a decent one in years.

>> No.852953

>>846460
Not retro.

>>>/v/

Also it's shit.

>> No.853103

>>846460
It's under-powered and over-rated. My neighbor has been big into Android emulation, and he bought into this Kickstarter craze of a a mess. My old phone and my tablet run circles around his Ouya box, AND BOTH OF THEM AREN'T ROOTED OR OVERCLOCKED. It's not even strong enough for hi-res texture emulation. I'm not knocking the price, or even the Plug-and-Play aspect, but you can do SO much more for only $50 more.

Or, like it's been mentioned before, buy an old Wii and softmod it. $60 at my local pawnshop

>> No.856335

Why not just get a cheap android-on-a-stick and a ps3 controller? I even have an air-mouse/remote/keyboard.

>> No.856652

The reason n64 emulation is shit is because the patents on it dont run out till 2015. After that it will be as good as snes emulation. N64 was impossible to program on so without the source code for this shit fan made emators are going to be rough regardless of what you use. But star fox64 on a soft modded wii with motion controls is ungodly fun.

>> No.856724

>>856652
I don't understand how all you people keep saying n64 emulation is so damn bad. Sure, sixtyforce is crap, but I've been using Project64 on my PC for years and never had a problem with it.

>> No.857623

>>856652
patents have jack-shit to do with emulation quality. There were quality SMS. NES, GB, Genesis, and SNES emulators before their patents expired.

The issue with N64 emulation is that it's only feasible at this time with dynamic recompilation, which is much trickier than straight processing opcodes.

>> No.857652

>>852824
This is an emulation thread dumbass.

>> No.857798

>>852848
ashens fan
kudos

>> No.858109

>>856724
Yeah, if all you play is Mario 64 and other popular games, and don't mind minor glitches on even some of those.

Try playing Pokemon Snap.

>> No.858649

I am able to enjoy premium Google Android games as well as many emulators on my OUYA.
OUYA offers every game free to try because they believe you shouldn’t buy anything until you know you love it.
Yes, you heard right. They don’t think you should buy games or in-game items unless you absolutely love them. If you fall head-over-heels for one of them, all you’ll need is a valid credit card, debit card or redeemable code. You’ll never be charged unless you choose to make a purchase.
Boasting both award-winning developers and up-and-comers, you’ll always be on the cutting edge of game releases, as OUYA delivers every genre you love, from shooters and action adventures to RPGs and puzzles. And since OUYA downloads all its games directly, that means no compact discs cluttering the coffee table.
All that 1080p goodness isn’t just for gaming. OUYA brings all your favorite apps to the big screen, streaming shows, movies, and music directly into the living room. They’ve already partnered with Twitch.tv, Crunchyroll, iheartradio, TuneIn, XBMC, Plex and Flixster and are adding more to their list daily.
They’ve outfitted OUYA with NVIDIA Tegra 3 processor, 1GB of RAM, and 8GB of internal storage (expandable via USB). Whether you use WiFi or Ethernet, download games or stream your favorite videos or music apps in beautiful 1080p HD. And since OUYA is the first totally open video game console, they actually welcome you to unscrew it and have a look around.
Definitely buy one, I have a total of three OUYA game consoles throughout my house. :-)

>> No.858656

>>848067

Actually, with the right graphics plugin for the right game emulating N64 on pc is perfect.

>> No.858660

>>858649
That's cool and all, but he's talking about how it deals as an emulation device, and when it comes to that, it's inferior to the Wii.

Looks like the marketers have finally found /vr/

>> No.858662

>>858649
This is b8.

>> No.858663

>>858656
>having to deal with plugins and settings on a per-game basis
>perfect

>> No.858690

>>858663

But that's wrong, you need to change plugins in a one out of 10 basis. And even then it's just a quick search away from finding which one to use.

Which reminds me of that oldschool videogame system where you had to type in a code each time you wanted to play a game, anyone remember what that was?

>> No.858706
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858706

>>858690
It doesn't change the fact that N64 emulation is a clusterfuck of plugins, hacks, and workarounds. Even the games that are supposedly "perfectly" emulated still suffer from shitty filtering issues.