[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/vr/ - Retro Games


View post   

File: 58 KB, 323x308, Chronocrossbox.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8464550 No.8464550 [Reply] [Original]

>it's shit

>> No.8464558

>>8464550
It's not shit. Just very middle of the road. I don't know how anyone could have any strong opinion about it.
The music was shit though. Not a single good song in the entire game.

>> No.8464578

no

>> No.8464579

Read the upanishads and the odyssey, then you will see.

>> No.8464593

I liked it.

>> No.8464629
File: 219 KB, 640x480, yap.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8464629

Who's the retard you're quoting, OP?

>> No.8464675

>>8464550
Then why did I play it twice and get all the characters? Because I liked it. I like self-important, intricate storytelling. I like the graphics and music. Even as a sequel, it's great, because it fucks with your expectations. The game is like a fever dream. Chrono Cross was the MGS2 bait-and-switch formula years prior. I hated the main characters, but that adds to the dreamy quality of everything.

>> No.8464691

One of my favorite games. Probably the most nitpicked game of all time.

>> No.8464692

>>8464550
t.seething triggertard

>> No.8464703

>>8464558
There's this
https://youtu.be/U0BdvBtQ4_0

>> No.8464716

>>8464558
>Not a single good song in the entire game.
You're a retard. Mitsuda is a genius and has never produced a less than stellar OST. Even his Mario Party OST is some of the best music in a Mario game, if not the very best.
https://youtu.be/MJXBTKuATgo

>> No.8465012

>>8464550
it's THE shit

>> No.8465043

Music had crouching Tiger vibes. Story is fine. Crono trigger was some overatted shit. Temper your expectations, it's Japanese, therefore go in with a high school level iq and you'll be fine.

>> No.8465121

>>8464550
The only thing I dont like about it are the slowass battles and the sheer amount of them at certain points in the game.
Otherwise its great, but fuck those slow battles.

>> No.8465125

>>8465043
these games are made for high schoolers

>> No.8465129
File: 474 KB, 1619x1725, bdcb2f5e93.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8465129

Life long JPRG fan and have full admittance that Square on the PSX was gilded in in divinity, yet Crono Cross visits ruination on their whole image.

Fuck FF7
Fuck FF8
Fuck Chrono Cross
Fuck Final Fantasy Tactics
suck my dick

I would rather subscribe to Disc Station in the 90s that have to live through mainline Square games in the late 90s and not be able to touch the dripping goodness of the fringe games they put out.

Sue me, crush me, kill me, love me, but fuck you I hate the mainline PSX games with a passion.

>> No.8465251

>>8464550
>>it's shit
>Yes

>> No.8465296

>>8465129
What are your thoughts on SaGa Frontier?

>> No.8465327

listening to the soundtrack again after years, I forgot how much it references CT. It's kind of sweet. the audio driver or soundfont or whatever is definitely the same one as in Xenogears

>> No.8465420

>>8465296
P.good.

>> No.8465428

>>8465129
What about FF9?

>> No.8465578

>>8465428
>it's shit

>> No.8465670

>>8465428
They tried to redeem themselves but still failed. LANE MAPS LANE MAPS LANE MAPS, wow are you faggots making a MOBA or something?

>> No.8465734

>>8465129
I DONT LIKE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE LIKES LOOK HOW HARDCORE I AM

>> No.8465753
File: 233 KB, 1430x1064, 4t4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8465753

>>8465734
Wrong, shut up and believe people have different views than you or open your midwit mind and come up with a way to talk about what I said, not throw shit.

>> No.8465763

>>8465129
I have a distaste for all those games except Chrono Cross. Good on you for the Tactics hate though, thought I was the only one.

>> No.8465783

>>8465763
I was an anime strategy addict man, for YEARS. People kept telling me to check that out and I did and guffawed. Yo, Shining Force 3 and Langrisser 4 around the same time, and even Square's one Bahamut Lagoon (again not mainline) are better. Fucking posers around mainline Square games, I swear to FUCK.

>> No.8466004

>>8465420
Nice to hear, it's one of the only Square PS1 games I bothered beating

>> No.8466686

Debating playing this. Is it Legend of Dragoon level? It looks a little like it.

>> No.8466707

>>8465129
what are your favorite jrpgs from that time then? i'd like some recs, i have very little experience with the genre and want to get into it

>> No.8467002

>>8464558
>Not a single good song in the entire game.
I know this is bait but please have a shower in hydrochloric acid 12M.

>> No.8467107
File: 1.84 MB, 300x240, 1511377031051.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8467107

>>8464558
The music is literally the best part of the game you immense faggot

>> No.8468374

>>8464675
>Even as a sequel, it's great, because it fucks with your expectations
I bet you liked The Last Jedi

>> No.8469289

>>8465783
>and even Square's one Bahamut Lagoon (again not mainline) are better.
Oh, so you're retarded and your opinion should be discarded, good to know.

>> No.8469471

>>8468374
No, I hate women

>> No.8470486

>>8464675
>Then why did I play it twice and get all the characters?
autism

>> No.8472945

>>8469471
Much love from Kazakhstan

>> No.8473406

>>8464558
Only the battle theme's a turd. The rest is fucking fantastic, you weirdo.

>> No.8473409

>>8464675
You actually need to play it three times to get all the characters.

>> No.8473418

>Chrono Cross Hate, or Why I'm An Unreasonable Shithead With No Taste

I must be the only fucker on earth that loves Trigger and Cross. 2000 is when Squaresoft busted its nut with CC, VS, and FF9.

>> No.8473483

>>8473418
>>8468374

>> No.8473523

>>8464703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nTz5VUc08
COMFY 200%

>> No.8473540

>>8469471
>>8472945
borat voice my wife

>> No.8473568

Haven't played it since the early 2000s, but I once bought a shirt with the boxart on it off eBay and it was really low quality and shipped from Poland. From then on I hated slavs

That is my Chrono Cross review.

>> No.8473573

>>8473483
I love Cross because it has a fantastic stage, great JRPG gameplay, beautiful visuals, some of the best orchestral music ever, and doesn't take itself overly serious.
I can easily separate it from Trigger. It's a game by some of the same team, in the same universe. Okay - GO. And there it is. A hint of Trigger with its own rhyme and pulse making the PS1 its bitch in visuals and sound.

EXACTLY LIKE CHRONO TRIGGER DID TO THE SNES.

>> No.8473579

>>8464550
It's not just but it's a bad sequel.

>> No.8473663

I've always wondered what was up with that really shitty water background on the pirate ship
https://youtu.be/2_dYMBoH4p8?t=8169

>> No.8473736

>>8464550
It's not shit, it's pretentious and badly narrated.
Which may be even worse for some of us.

>> No.8473738

>>8465129
Evangelion images are a good indicator that a poster shouldn’t be listened to.

>> No.8473785

>>8466686
Legend of Dragoon feels a bit more half baked due to the nature of how you access magic and how rapidly you go through MP. It is very addition focused (addition is the name for the physical attack skills you need to do timed button inputs for).

Chrono Cross is more interesting because you start out a battle unable being able to cast spells. You need to land physical attacks to charge up your spell gauge (three attacks giving you one, two, or three bars). Then you're able to utilize the spell in that slot once for that battle and your spells refresh every battle. Characters have many rows and columns to equip spells to, and if you put weaker spells in more advanced slots they gain more power.

The characters turn ends when they run out if stamina, which actions consume. It is entirely possible to put yourself in a stamina deficit and you end up getting skipped for a turn.

>> No.8473789
File: 206 KB, 771x804, Yes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8473789

>>8464550
>it's shit

>> No.8473938
File: 317 KB, 885x487, Shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8473938

>>8464550

>> No.8473973

Poor anon, mistaking a personal opinion with a fact.

>> No.8474091

>>8464550
>It's a good game, just not a good Chrono Trigger game

>> No.8475367

>triggered triggerfags still seething
It's the second best jrpg of all time after FFVIII and there's nothing you can do about it

>> No.8475680

>>8475367
I have only ever seen two kinds of retards so openly gleeful that a sequel shits on everything that made the original good: Retarded crossfags, and retarded disneywarsfags.

>> No.8475693

>>8475680
its not a sequel its a standalone game
>completely different gameplay
>completely different story
its just set in the same world and barely continues the story of trigger, if you like chrono trigger you aren't necessarily going to like chrono cross but it is a great game

>> No.8475715

>>8475693
>its not a sequel its a standalone game
>The ghosts of Crono, Marle and Lucca appear more than once to infodump you and the game is very explicit about their fate and Porre conquering Guardia.
>Kid is Schala's clone.
>Robo's CPU is the core of FATE.
>Masamune, Time Egg and Chrono Trigger all exist
>Draconians are Reptites
>Lavos is the final boss
>Belthazar did everything just to save Schala
It would be a far better game with a far less retarded story if it was actually standalone. It's retarded and I hate it, but it's completely disingenuous to say it's not a sequel.

>if you like chrono trigger you aren't necessarily going to like chrono cross
I'd go as far as to say that if you like Chrono Trigger you can't possibly like Chrono Cross, just like you can't possibly like The Last Jedi if you like old Star Wars.

>> No.8475750

>>8475715
>I'd go as far as to say that if you like Chrono Trigger you can't possibly like Chrono Cross
Books/movies aren't the same as video games. Some people don't care as much for the story outside of a dressing for player motivation to adventure or generally progress to beat the game.

Personally I don't even care about the shift in story between the Genesis and Dreamcast Sonic games, I do care how the 3D Sonic games control which greatly impacts my enjoyment of them. I don't find Chrono Cross offensive in that regard.

>> No.8475752

>>8464550
I've only ever played very few JRPGs but I see nothing wrong with the battle system. What was the issue?

>> No.8475753

>>8475750
working for the air force is a miserable...existence.

>> No.8475796

>>8475752
The main reason is Chrono, Lucca and Marle are dead.
The other reasons are just made up.

>> No.8475814
File: 322 KB, 1224x1535, 1640194762858.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8475814

>>8475715
you hate it because of the way they used the chrono trigger characters and story as a background for a different story about different characters making for a terrible closure of chrono trigger's story.
however chrono cross is excellent on its own and playing chrono trigger is absolutely not a prerecquisite
the chrono trigger story is just used as background lore here
the last jedi comparison doesn't really work because the last jedi is a terrible movie even for star wars while chrono cross is one of the best rpgs on the playstation.
I do think of it as a mistake to try and intertwine chrono trigger's story into chrono cross because it adds nothing except frustrating chrono trigger fans

just don't think of it as a continuation of chrono trigger and it suddenly becomes a 10/10

>> No.8475826

>>8475814
>just don't think of it as a continuation of chrono trigger and it suddenly becomes a 10/10
You also have to not think about how shitty the story and gameplay is. The only thing it had going for it was the music.

>> No.8475842

>>8475826
gameplay is great, I like it more than any of the playstation ff games
story is good too but I love how well written the npc dialogue is, a lot of them are surprisingly fleshed out characters

>> No.8475915
File: 153 KB, 800x681, I-IT'S NOT A SEQUEL cROSS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8475915

>>8475693

>> No.8476013
File: 129 KB, 1140x1080, LuccaAshtearLives.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8476013

>>8475715
>Ghosts
Anon...

>> No.8476059
File: 987 KB, 229x176, BBWvacationsex.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8476059

>>8475715
>Porre conquering Guardia.
That one always got me, the small town with like 5 residences and a mayor who pays people to act like a chicken (or generously donates his money) overtook all of Guardia's military force somehow

>> No.8476071

>>8476059
>Porre conquering Guardia
Dalton.

>> No.8476093

>>8476071
Eh, I still don't buy that the group who had taken out Queen Zeal or Lavos would fall to a punkass like Dalton

>> No.8476097

>>8475915
Backs of boxes were notoriously incorrect, even back then. They were done by a separate team from the developers.

>> No.8476103

>>8475915
chrono trigger is just background lore, its a completely different story

>> No.8476128

>>8476071
th joke character, yeah whatever kato, go back to wrtie shitgelion

>> No.8476132

>>8465753
is funny because kato worked on eva, god how i hate that overrated crap

>> No.8476134

>>8473573
yeah it feels like the trigger stuff was shoehorned it last minute

>> No.8476143

>>8476128
based joke character who killed that faggot chrono, slut marlene and geek lucca

>> No.8476196

>>8476143
here comes the 40 fatso who thinks eva is the best writing shit on the earth

>> No.8476235
File: 2.17 MB, 3960x1612, Chrono Cross wall of exposition.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8476235

>>8476013
>>8476097
>>8476103

>> No.8476237

>>8476013
Not canon, whatever this is.

>> No.8476240

>it's shit

Well yeah, it's a jRPG. What do you expect.

>> No.8476251

>>8476097
>>8476103
>I-It isn't a sequel because...
>IT JUST ISN'T OK?!

>> No.8476259

>>8476235
There's nothing in there that says it's a sequel.

>> No.8476418

>>8473409
Yes but you don’t need to beat it the third time. Therefore you played it [all the way] twice. Honestly I didn’t feel like beating it a third time, because the ending isn’t very good.

>> No.8476465

>>8475915
>why yes I'm a marketing bullet on the back of an American box, how could you tell?

>> No.8476564

>>8476465
>>8476251

>> No.8477074
File: 7 KB, 128x128, 66-funguyf.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8477074

>>8475842
>story is good too but I love how well written the npc dialogue is, a lot of them are surprisingly fleshed out characters
Yeah, who could forget a character as wonderful as picrel

>> No.8477075

>>8477074
what a fun guy!

>> No.8477262

it's shit

>> No.8477540
File: 58 KB, 200x200, Crossfeature_Funguy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8477540

>>8477074
>a gluttonous human is transformed into a mushroom man because of his carelessness. Ashamed of his new form and blaming you for the consequences of his actions, he tags along, expecting a cure for his condition. As he travels, now in tune with nature because of his new form, he sees the destruction humans cause and desires a return to life in harmony with nature. Eventually, he creates offspring in his new form and accepts it as his children, fighting alongside them. When the adventure ends, he returns to the forest, having come to terms with and embracing his metamorphosis.

Try paying some attention next time, Trigglypuff.

>> No.8477565

>>8477540
Nice headcanon. Too bad he has about 10 total lines and almost none of that is in the actual game. Especially
> the destruction humans cause
The game keeps harping this point, as if it's set in the modern world or a cyberpunk dystopia, but it's set in a tropical paradise with zero industry and approximately zero actual ecodamage. The dickhead dwarves that genocide the fairies with their steampunk war machines did much, much more to damage the environment than anything by any human in the game.

>> No.8477613

>>8477540
>in tune with nature
nature isn't even "in tune" with "itself"

>> No.8477621

>>8477613
He means "stoned out of his mind"

>> No.8477634

>>8477565
None of that is made up, it's literally what happens in the game. Try paying some attention next time, Trigglypuff.

>> No.8477636

>ends with a sperm allegory

>> No.8477640

>>8477634
Your game is shit. Cope, Crossdresser.

>> No.8477670

>>8467107
No shit sherlock, it's almost as if you replied to the most obvious bait

>> No.8477679

>>8473418
>I must be the only fucker on earth that loves Trigger and Cross
Bro of course not, don't be so naive. This is made up on 4channel to get people replying and arguing. It's a meme just like "Fallout 2 has too many pop culture references" and "actually you don't need to draw magic in FF8".

>> No.8477740
File: 280 KB, 150x240, 8-mojodance2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8477740

>>8477640
>mad because I'm right

lol

>> No.8477784

>>8466686
Legend Dragoon is fucking soulless. You can see the executives crafting it.

>> No.8477819

>>8477784
I don’t understand why anybody liked it

>> No.8477830

>>8476196
>>8476237
>Officially licensed game by the original creator
>Not canon
This is what maximum cope looks like

>> No.8478071

>>8464550
best game on the playstation. Best combat system, replayability, side quests, world map level design, and story that isnt force feeding the player crono trigger niggers are forever salty they didnt get the direct sequal

>> No.8478085

>>8475715
you overanalyze things to much, CC is more of a spiritual sequel then a direct sequel any plot points tied to CT are vague and more like easter eggs

>> No.8478092

>>8477670
Why bother replying to anything if everything's in bad faith or trolling?

>> No.8478124

>>8478085
>CC is more of a spiritual sequel then a direct sequel
>Just turn your brain off bro
Crossfag cope is hilarious

>> No.8478158

>>8478124
seething trigger nigger

>> No.8478274

>>8477740
probably my favorite thing about CC, so many insane characters
what other game lets you make a party consisting of a luchador priest, a skeleton clown, and a human sized animated voodoo doll

>> No.8478717

>>8478158
where is the lie though

>> No.8478845

>>8478274
I've never played any Shadow Hearts games, but I've heard that it's not too far off from what you're describing

>> No.8478913

>>8477830
Still not canon
>This is what maximum cope looks like
ironic

>> No.8478951

>>8478913
>thinks Radical Dreamers is canon and Chrono Cross isn't
Your headcanon is shit

>> No.8478965

>>8478951
Are you talking about Chrono Cross or that mobile game Kato was involved with?

>> No.8479074

>>8478951
>thinks [projection]
ironic

>> No.8479396

>>8478913
nobody cares about if its canon or not, it's a 10/10 game

>> No.8479592

>>8479396
>it's a 10/10 game
Nope. Cross is shit.

>> No.8479797

>>8479396
>it's a 10/10 game
Isn't it gacha?

>> No.8479826

>>8479592
Yep. Cross is great.

>> No.8479853

>>8479826
*fetid shit

>> No.8480236

>>8479797
it's an rpg game on the ps1
>>8479592
cope, you just dont like it because of the conclusion they gave the chrono trigger story
there is nothing wrong with chrono cross in of itself, it's it's own game

>> No.8480260

>>8464550

so what's the deal with this rerelease or remake that people are talkin about? anything concrete? I'd buy either even though I know square enix would royally fuckup a chrono cross remake. if they just rerelease it and put it on steam i'll be happy. yeah i'm a steamfag sue me or talk about gog or whatever.

>> No.8480293

>>8480236
Cross is also a shit game.

>> No.8480297

>>8480260
>Crossfags are steamfags
Imagine. my. shock.

>> No.8480327

>>8480297
You might think that it's all in good fun, but this personality of yours does effect your brain.

>> No.8480473
File: 86 KB, 1152x648, wut.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8480473

>Defending the infodump at the end of CC because you hated CT that much

I like Cross a lot but cmon now

>> No.8480602

both games are masterpieces but they shouldn't be considered as part of the same series because cross is a terrible sequel to trigger despite being one of the best rpgs ever made

>> No.8480692

>>8479396
Cross is a 9.5 at most, Trigger is a legit 10/10

>> No.8480749

Trigger is the equivalent of a wild and creative and fun shonen anime, during the course of which the creator got burnt out and depressed and annoyed by fans and came back with a heap of new pretentions to make an artsy-fartsy followup that threw the majority of the original in the scrap heap.

>> No.8480775

>>8480749
Relatively accurate, thought it's more like a junior writer who got buttblasted that they weren't listening to his ideas and the story was a massive success despite instead of because of him, and then went on to make a sequel where he would show them, he would show them all.

Masato Kato was brought in midway through the development of Trigger, his first idea was to nix the time travel plot entirely because it would be too complicated, and another of his genius ideas was to make it so that Crono is doomed, the party grabs him from an earlier point in time, he helps defeat Lavos and then he has to go back to his death to avoid a paradox.

Cross was his brainchild. None of the dream team who made Trigger returned for the sequel.

>> No.8480865

>>8479853
*aromatic roses.

>> No.8480869

>>8480293
Cross is also a great game.

>> No.8481673

>>8480865
>>8480869
Chrono Cross is a shit game and you have dogshit taste.

>> No.8482163

>>8464558
>Just very middle of the road
That's even worse.

>> No.8482215

>>8475693
Right so 99% of FF aren't sequels ARE YOU LE EFFIN STUPID KID?!

>> No.8482240

>>8482215
they're not sequels to the plot, the gameplay similarities are enough to call them sequels as a whole and be "numbered" releases
same with the gta series, elder scrolls series and many other games

>> No.8482250
File: 940 KB, 976x904, 1569906238386.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8482250

>>8482240

>> No.8482323
File: 218 KB, 1267x711, baten kaitos.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8482323

>>8480775
at least he didn't give up on the concept.

>> No.8482326

>>8482240
>>>/v/
Get out. Don't ever show your friggin stupid face here again...

>> No.8482374

>>8475814
>>8475715
here's the thing I never understood about this argument.
There's 2 worlds you can travel between in the game; There's multiple islands and characters pulled from less connected worlds. There's a frequent plot mechanic of a character being dead in one world, but alive in the other world.

If big villain has a chance to come back for revenge and he can do it in an infinite amount of universes, they're gonna choose the world where they have the best chance to succeed.

>> No.8482392

>>8481673
Chrono Cross is a great game and you have dogshit taste.

>> No.8482415

I will never play Cross until they retcon the cast from Trigger dying like bitches despite being the some of the most powerful beings in their little slice of spacetime.

>> No.8482478

>>8476134
it literally was
the cross team wanted to make a FF-esque sequel with some easter eggs but sakadiki fagomuto in the FF team threw a tantrum and forced the hamfisted trigger tie-ins

>> No.8482527

>>8482392
If it's so great, how come it's never gotten a re-release, and Trigger has gotten MULTIPLE? Check m8

>> No.8482738

>>8482527
Go fuck yourself. Partners in Time is a better game than Super Mario RPG with that fucked logic

>> No.8482770
File: 1.09 MB, 1063x800, Injured_Gato.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8482770

>>8475715
I for one hate what happened to Gato. ;_;

>> No.8482872
File: 20 KB, 300x243, 19-dead33.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8482872

>>8482770
Johnny...
The MAN...

>> No.8482957

>>8482872
Damn, I didn't realize it's him.

>> No.8482962
File: 247 KB, 850x680, __lucca_ashtear_crono_marle_ayla_frog_and_12_more_chrono_trigger_drawn_by_dean_silog__sample-f7189c8180bde9c8d271a00254a79d40.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8482962

>>8482527
Chrono Trigger+Cross Kart spin-off when?

>> No.8483098

>>8482478
>sakadiki fagomuto in the FF team threw a tantrum and forced the hamfisted trigger tie-ins
Source? Because every interview I've read said that Masato Kato wanted a direct sequel and everything retarded that resulted from this was his idea.

>> No.8483286
File: 80 KB, 862x1024, 1599753049905.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8483286

>>8477670
Yes.

>> No.8483531

>>8478913
>New story from the original creators
It's as canon as it could possibly be. Keep coping, trigger tranny
>>8479797
The Chrono Cross story and characters are free

>> No.8483559

>>8483531
>The Chrono Cross story and characters are free
>Cross is so shit, they have to give characters from it away for FREE!
You can't make this shit up! LOL

>> No.8483610

>>8483531
>gacha is 10/10
>it's not gacha, they give you the characters for free!
>gacha story is at the same level as Cross's story!
Unironically kys crossdresser

>> No.8485079
File: 1.02 MB, 2280x1080, LUCCA ANOTHER EDEN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8485079

>>8483559
>>8483610
>Samefagging cope poster strikes again
The point is that even though it's a mobile game all of the Complex Dream content is free and you don't have to do any gachas to play it.
>Same level
Yes, though on a smaller scale. It only takes about 6-8 hours to get through all the new game + content. It's written by Masato Kato himself, so please feel free to suck my balls as you continue coping. Also, in one of the endings it's revealed that you will never ever be a woman and your parents will deadname you on your tombstone

>> No.8485118
File: 2 KB, 246x56, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8485118

>>8485079
Nice try, crossdresser. And thanks for confirming that that the story you wank so hard is just as terrible as the story of a fucking gacha "game". I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd see someone so far up his own ass as to unironically defend gachashit.

>> No.8485161
File: 1.34 MB, 2280x1080, 1641338753639.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8485161

>>8485118
>Defend gachashit
I'm not though, Mr seething samefag. I couldn't give less of a shit about it beyond the Complex Dream story which, again, is by Kato, who also wrote Trigger, RD, Cross, FFVII, and Xenogears. Seethe, cope, dilate, etc

>> No.8485243

>>8485161
>I'm not defending gachashit
>Except I am
Yes, Kato, that glorious hack made gacha after he destroyed the Chrono series. But to actually defend gacha just because it's made by your idol? You'd gladly eat shit if he served it to you, you deranged fanboy!

>> No.8485883

>>8485243
>Zero reading comprehension
>Endless disingenuous pilpul
>Still seething
Kek. I accept your surrender, schlomo

>> No.8486508

>>8485883
Wank your favourite hack some more, crossdresser. Fuck, you think he wrote the likes of Trigger, FFVII and Xenogears when he was nothing but a junior writer and hardly made a meaningful contribution to them. Anything to defend the diarrhea that is Cross, your favourite game, right?

>> No.8486581

>>8486508
Cross is a good game.

Captcha: SNOT2

>> No.8487246

>>8486581
>Cross is SNOT2 a good game.
ftfy

>> No.8488350

>>8486508
Triggered Trigger anon, please take your meds. I've never seen someone so assblasted by a fucking children's game that their headcannon won't allow them to accept the canonicity of it's sequels. Sad.

>> No.8488365

>>8488350
SequelS? Plural? Are you fucking kidding me? You seriously count Radical Dreamers, Cross and a fucking gacha chapter that didn't even have the rights to use the real names of the characters as canon?
lol
lmao
Please, for the love of all that is holy, just neck yourself. It won't hurt at all and you'll do the world a great service by ridding it from a waste of oxygen such as you.

>> No.8488407

>>8464558
>I don't know how anyone could have any strong opinion about it.
>The music was shit though. Not a single good song in the entire game.
This is the kind of bait I expect of /vr/, well done anon

>> No.8488750
File: 292 KB, 768x474, 1641428117418.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8488750

>>8488365
>Radical Dreamers
Yes, that's the first sequel, by the original story planner and writer of Chrono Trigger
>Chrono Cross
Yes, that's the second sequel, again by the original writer
>Complex Dream
Yes, that's the third sequel, yet again by the original writer. Are you starting to understand how this works yet?
>didn't have the rights to use the real names
?? You're not even trying now, Mr Tranny. I accept your defeat

>> No.8488760

>>8488750
...you do realize your three "sequels" contradict each other, right? Have you even read their story, crossdresser? Or did you see your idol's name on the cover and decided to slurp his dick some more?

>> No.8488805

>>8488760
>Contradict each other
Yeah, they don't though... You've either never played the games or you are too much of a brainlet to wrap your mind around the fairly simple time travel elements of the story. Either way, you keep seething and I'll keep enjoying the first new Chrono content we've seen in the last 20 years

>> No.8488837

>>8488805
>they don't though
So, where exactly do the events of Radical Dreamers fit in Cross? Is Guile actually an amnesiac Magus or just a rando who looks like him? etc, etc. You have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm not surprised at all you're enjoying the turd sandwich you're being served. You're exactly the kind of consoomer they target.

>> No.8488875

>>8488837
>Where do the events of Radical Dreamers fit in
That was the original timeline before FATE altered the past to create the Chrono Cross
>Is Guile actually an amnesiac Magus
Yes
>You have no idea what you're talking about
Kek
>consoomer
Haven't paid a dime

>> No.8488894
File: 8 KB, 256x224, triggerniggers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8488894

>>8488837
>seething
>too dumb to understand the basic plot of Cross
>didn't even check the RD terminal in Chronopolis

>> No.8488949

>>8488875
>FATE altered the past to create the Chrono Cross
What a wonderful headcanon. Too bad it never happened.
>>Is Guile actually an amnesiac Magus
>Yes
Again, nice headcanon, but there's literally nothing in Cross indicating that's the case, and Magus's name never even comes up except for a very, very brief mention in Lucca's letter, that was meant for Kid to read after her death. Guile being Magus was taken out of the game because your idol, Kato, did not want him to outshine the other dozens of wonderful party members. It's just as canon as Crono dying for real during Trigger, with Gaspar's Chrono Trigger unable to change his fate, as Kato wanted to happen. Or even with Chrono Trigger being a game without time travel, again as Kato wanted to happen. If it's not in the final product, it never happened, retard.
>>consoomer
>Haven't paid a dime
Nice dodge, lol. No matter what you tell yourself, you're nothing but a crossdressing consoomer, happy to eat up anything they give you.
>>8488894
lol
lmao

>> No.8488981

>>8488949
Oh god, it's the Guile-isnt-Magus autist. All they did was remove CONFIRMATION that he's Magus. RD, CT on DS, and developers all confirm he is, in fact, Magus. You are mentally ill.
>>8488894
He's so emotionally invested in his headcannon that I'm afraid he's beyond help, anon

>> No.8489114

>>8488981
Anon, Guile does LITERALLY NOTHING in Cross. He's just there. He doesn't feature in anything, no one cares about him. He's just as relevant to Kid/Schala's character as, I don't know, Vorcha.(Schala is another name that almost never comes up in the game btw. Nice sequel bro) No, even less than that stupid kid because that stupid kid has a crush on Kid. What does Guile have to do with her? Nothing whatsoever, that's what.

The devs intended early on to make him Magus, and then they cut it out. You are so retarded that you are literally arguing that cut content is canon, and you think it's canon when it's contradictory and retarded because you're a raging retarded consoomer fanboy.

>> No.8489632
File: 379 KB, 805x573, 1641443274845.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8489632

>>8489114
>I don't play the games I shitpost about
Based retard

>> No.8489985

>>8489632
DS version retcon

>> No.8490369

>>8489632
Alright, now post a pic with Guile interacting with Kid, or doing anything whatsoever that might indicate there's something more to him than meets the eye. Hell, give me a pic where Magus gets mentioned other than Lucca's letter. I'm waiting.

>> No.8490389
File: 23 KB, 256x224, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8490389

>nnnnnoooo you can't just canonize the masked mage being Magus by confirming RD takes place in yet another dimension

>> No.8490407
File: 94 KB, 500x600, triggered.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8490407

20+ years later still triggered because of this faggot died in the sequel

>> No.8490409

>>8490389
>dimensions, dimensions, dimensions
Keep coping about the shit games that you never played crossdresser
>>8490407
You're just as pathetic as the disney shill consoomers who are happy that Luke jobs and dies in The Last Jedi. Congratulations anon, this is a new low.

>> No.8490464
File: 250 KB, 559x1288, 5458.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8490464

>>8490407

>> No.8490479
File: 137 KB, 605x778, 4545.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8490479

>>8490464

>> No.8490503

>>8490464
>>8490479
Dalton should have his own game.

>> No.8490508
File: 193 KB, 256x223, rad.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8490508

>>8490409
>Trigglypuff seethes about dimensions when Trigger literally had a location called dimensional vortex

Laff, Trigglypuffs never change. Also get fucked, I played RD before you were even a vial at the sperm bank.

>> No.8490512

>>8490508
If you had actually played it, my retarded subhuman crossdresser friend, you'd know that Magil has literally nothing in common with Guile other than a general character design, and you'd also know that Kid being Schala and Magil Magus was literally a last minute aspull by Kato because he got writer's block right before the ending of his "thieves break into a mansion" story and did not know how to finish it.

I'm still waiting for a pic with Guile interacting with Kid btw.

>> No.8490526

>>8490512
>Kid being Schala and Magil Magus was literally a last minute aspull by Kato

Source?

>> No.8490531

>>8489114
That's like saying foreskin isn't a canon part of the penis because it was cut content.

>> No.8490534

>>8489985
New content is not a retcon, dumb faggot
>>8490369
>Confronted with evidence
>N-nooooooo not that evidence I want DIFFERENT evidence!

>>8490512
Just making shit up again I see. Kek. Please never change, triggeredfag

>> No.8490541

>>8490531
Well, judging by the sheenie pilpul tone of his "arguments" I'd say there's a 110% chance that he's oven bait, so of course he doesn't consider foreskin canon

>> No.8490751

>>8490526
his ass, Kid being Schala and Magil Magus was written since radical dreamers but kato changed because is stupid and wanted ppl to try the 40+ underdeveloped characters distacing the game even more from the one is supposed to be sequel

>> No.8490763

>>8490503
dalton revenge

>> No.8490861
File: 110 KB, 856x187, It was then, for the first time, that I realized that that was the story of Schala and Magus.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8490861

>>8490526
picrel, from an interview of his.

>>8490534
>Just making shit up again I see. Kek. Please never change, triggeredfag
>>8490751
Eat shit and die, crossdresser.

>> No.8490997

>>8490861
What a hack.

>> No.8491080
File: 2.88 MB, 2436x1125, Lucca xenogears.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8491080

>>8485079
>>8485161
OH SHIT, XENOGEARS IS ALSO A CANON SEQUEL TO CHRONO TRIGGER.

>> No.8492031

>>8490861
He's talking about writing the scenario for the game there you absolute retard

>> No.8492042

>>8490861
kato was the only thing preventing trigger from being a bland dq clone and you know it

>> No.8492054
File: 108 KB, 420x480, 1641510152494.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8492054

>>8491080
If you can't tell the difference between an explicitly stated sequel and a tongue in cheek skit you might seriously have schizophrenia. Chrono Trigger has 3 sequels and you will never be a woman

>> No.8492118

How’s the actual fucking game?

>> No.8492124

>>8492118
genuinely one of the best jrpgs ever made

>> No.8492148

>>8492118
genuinely one of the worst jrpgs ever made

>> No.8492187

>>8492118
It's shit. Pay attention.

>> No.8492271

>>8492118
It's great. Pay attention.

>> No.8492561

>>8492118
It's the second best game on the PlayStation

>> No.8492568

>>8492118
It's the third best game on the PlayStation

>> No.8492589

The fact that the game triggered this guy >>8492148 >>8491080 >>8490409 so hard that he seethes and shits up every Chrono thread non-stop with his schizo headcanon is a testimony to it's lasting emotional power, even 20 years later. It's one of those few games that everyone with access to a psx should experience. Radical Dreamers is also great if you like text based RPGs.

>> No.8492792

>>8492589
Based truth speaker anon.

>> No.8493456

>>8492589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpqgYSUL38M

>> No.8493507
File: 59 KB, 720x717, 1624060165609.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8493507

>>8493456
>Rian Johnson did not write the original Star Wars

>Masato Kato wrote the original (and every subsequent) Chrono game

Keep squirming, champ

>> No.8494226
File: 61 KB, 864x99, the idea that I had at that time was for Crono to really die.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8494226

>>8493507
Is this how you're trying to cope? lol man. Kato was A writer but he was not THE writer. Yuji Horii did more for the story than Kato. Kato wanted to keep Crono dead, and even against making the game about time travel. But then again, you keep insisting that Guile and Magus are the same person despite absolutely nothing in the game implying it, so maybe you think that Crono really did die in Trigger and it was not a game about time travel just like your god Kato intended.

Seriously though, aren't you tired of bringing up one point after the other only to get immediately btfo'd and try to deflect by immediately moving to the next point?

>> No.8494251
File: 32 KB, 403x510, I’m in charge of writing the plot in Chrono Trigger.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8494251

>>8493507
Here, have one more friend. Kato's role only started getting inflated so that the fact that none of the dream team who really created Trigger returned for the sequel could be glossed over.

>> No.8494259

>>8494226
>Guile and Magus are the same person
Magus was going to be in Cross, but they didn’t include him because they couldn’t do his story justice. So they put in Guile as a placeholder for him. You could look at it in such a way that yes, he’s still Magus, but with no explanation, and fill in the gaps in your head.

>> No.8494284
File: 8 KB, 128x128, 33-poshulf.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8494284

>>8494259
>fill in the gaps in your head
>just headcanon it bro
Yes, they intended to have Guile be an amnesiac Magus. But then they changed their mind because having Magus there would take the spotlight out of the 50 forgettable party members they wanted to have. It is not in the finished game, and Guile is just as plot relevant as picrel.

>> No.8494290

>>8494284
>>just headcanon it bro
Literally yes, it’s as relevant as any of the 100 characters they decided to bring in

>> No.8494553

>pick a solid well known game
>call it shit
>don't elaborate
ebin

>> No.8495523
File: 15 KB, 512x512, Classical Chad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8495523

>pick a shitty game
>call it shit
>don't elaborate
>leave

>> No.8496052

>>8494226
>>8494251
>>8494284

Pathetic cope. Watching you project your headcanon fantasies just made me literally cringe. The fact that your "evidence" completely btfos your own assertions and you just ignore it like a Jew painting swastikas on his own temple is pretty funny though

>> No.8496081
File: 2.19 MB, 388x218, 1d2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8496081

>>8491080
>>8490409
>>8494226
>>8494251
>>8494284
>>8495523
I've never seen someone get so thoroughly BTFO from the top to the bottom of a thread for days on end and just.. keep going like he thinks he's winning or something. This level of chrischan autism truly deserves Guinness consideration I can't imagine this guy being able to function out in public

>> No.8496082

>>8480775
and he did show them all by making a better game. trigger tendies just can't admit it because of console wars.

>> No.8496267

>>8496081
Because crossfags are all mentally ill. So very sad...
>>8496082
>tfw i dropped this steaming pile of crap before even getting to anything to do with Chrono Trigger, because I realized that the game was shit, and only found out after the fact
Feels good. You retards will say I was "filtered", without realizing it was for the best.
Enjoy your shit taste, plebeians.

>> No.8496705
File: 81 KB, 500x415, Zealmap.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8496705

>>8480775
>the story was a massive success despite instead of because of him
Masato Kato literally wrote the best part of the story, if anything the story was a success because of him.

>> No.8496768

>>8496705
Eh, I thought it was kind of boring and dragged on a bit. Music was good, though.
Sounds familiar.

>> No.8496806
File: 145 KB, 500x622, 1586207941508.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
8496806

>simultaneously is the best looking/sounding game on the system while also being one of the worst games on the system

goddammit square... how did you all manage to fuck it up so badly?

>> No.8496808

It would have been perceived as an underrated (but admittedly weird) gem if it weren't for it being a Chrono Trigger sequel.

>> No.8497036

>>8496808
As someone who hates Cross, I can agree with that. It was really dragged down by shoehorning it into being a sequel when it is so obviously not. It would have worked much better as a Final Fantasy style loose "sequel" keeping some names and easter eggs and jettisoning the epic plotdumps that tried to mix oil and water.

>> No.8497440

it might be inferior to CT, but it's at least ten times better than xenogears, which shares many of its flaws and adds even more of its own but doesn't get shat on nearly as much